I just finished a 12800klm journey from Cairns...Brisbane...Newcastle....Bathurst....Barossa...Adelaide....Grampians....Great Ocean Rd, ...Geelong.....Yarra Glen.....Mornington Peninsula.....Merimbula....Canberra...Sydney....Toowoomba....Airlie Beach...Cairns. Stunning trip. Stunning car. Stunning overtaking ability. Stunning fuel economy 6.3l/100k overall. Got 5.2l/100k between Airlie Beach and Cairns averaging 85kph. Tried 95 octane but it gave me no better economy than 91. Tried to upload pictures via clipboard but I am not sure it has worked . In Reidsdale, I had three occupants, with their luggage, and the Airbnb house was on 5k of dirt roads. No problems at all. Still do not understand the SUV/UTE craze. My 4 laps at Mt. Panoroma was a treat.
every time I go to Bathurst I end up doing at least 5 laps of Mt Panorama ... lovely road to drive on even at legal (and sometime no so legal but shhh ahem as I cough) speeds and within the correct lanes.
@tommymotolla4604 Hi TM, there is only one model in Australia and that is the high performance 2.5 litre N LINE. I am currently making a YT video to record the very satisfying highway fuel consumption of this wonderful car. I published my first report in June/July. Put Sonata N Line Fuel Consumption and you will see what freeway/highway consumption I was getting before the long 13k trip. Thanks for your interest.
@tommymotolla4604 Here's a direct link to my first fuel consumption report, Tommy. th-cam.com/video/1nCvezfP_lQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZaJ79th5U_HFP5Rs Now, that I am back from my trip my odometer is indicating currently that I am getting 7.2l/100k. That is from short little urban trips but Cairns is not like Sydney or California in terms of density and number of traffic lights.
@@therightcar oh!!! Very good..cause the styling is rather good and there aren't many medium/large sedans that are reliable and relatively cheap.... Hopefully you comment on the Lexus version.... I will have to tune in but fortunately I made the decision to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE and HIT THE BELL!!111
not true, in the North American market there are "sporty" Camry which would of been the equiv to our former Falcon XR6 and Commodore SV6, eve this gen Camry came with 3.5L V6 petrol power and of all things a "double wish bone IRS" which was tuned for grip, why it needed a Double Wish Bone IRS is only known to Toyota but it had it, the last Australia built car to ever have that type of rear suspension was the AU Falcon in Fairmont Ghia, XR8 and LWB Falirlane/LTD way back in 1998 to 2002. LOL even the Rav4 has a double wish bone IRS again for what reason? only Toyota know.
I honestly forgot this car still existed in Australia! This facelift is spectacular! It's completely transformed the look of this car and it's worked! The previous Sonata looked like a bloated sad looking deep sea ocean fish, this one is sharp and athletic. On looks alone I'd buy this over the Toyota Camry hands down! However, those annoying chimes would put me right off! Because of the sloping rear on these, I'm surprised they weren't designed as a liftback! Liftbacks are so much more practical than 'coupe' looking sedans, Skoda certainly has the better option in the Octavia liftback. And I agree with you Matt, I'd love to see how the Sonata would look if Hyundai had done a wagon!
Liftback is so 1980's maybe in Austrailia people buy cars with liftbacks but everywhere else liftback is no go. Skoda is a Russian/Czech car. besides liftback what option does it have over the Sonata?? The Sonata has better tech in it, and is BETTER built.
A few feedback with the system as I have the same in the kona. You have some dedicated favourites button, which you can set to turn off instead of finding through the screen if you decide to leave them on you can set the volume to its minimum where it's barely noticeable.
This!!!! Absolutely agree with you!!! I’m new to Hyundai cars, but I love my onyx black metallic SNL!!! It’s quick, refined, handles better than my 2017 Buick Regal 2.0 turbo car and my Mustangs and Shelby GT500’s I’ve owned in the past!!! PS4L!!!! It’s Lit!!! 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nice car and review Matt. A great model upgrade inside and out. That said why isn't the Australian market getting it with AWD as the overseas model? The would be the cherry on top of the cake.
Thanks alot, @Matt. With all the annoying functions and chimes in cars these days that some buyers might consider to be deal breakers, it would be great if your reviews could include confirming if/how these can be disabled. For example, on my 2023 Outback, the speed camera warning chime was a very loud and unpleasant shock, which thankfully I was able to permanently disable. There is Auto Start /Stop and four drivers aids, including Driver monitoring, Lane Keep Assist and Auto Emergency Braking, that I don’t like and I always manually turn off every time I start the car, but at least I have the choice to do that. I’d love it if car reviews don’t just tell us how annoying these features can be but whether they can be disabled. This disabling capability is not always possible for a would-be buyer to figure out on the average test drive.
Thanks for the feedback. I won’t be doing detailed videos on how to disable things, though. I gloss over it because if you buy a car you can look it up yourself in the manual, or ask the dealership. The reason is it interrupts the flow. As a creator you’ve got to keep people engaged and going down rabbit holes on specific things will lose viewers. Thanks for your feedback!
No tech issues with the safety gear or infotainment? If that’s the case, I’m glad it’s being good to you. The one I had (see review at CarsGuide TH-cam) was a nightmare for tech gremlins.
I have the SL hybrid and what a car. Nothing comes close on value for money including purchase, running and service costs. Out of 3 cars, including a rav4 cruiser hybrid its the best.
Great review Matt but like you not interested in sedans. In my case too close to the ground, getting in and out. That engine and transmission would be great in Tuscon / Sportage.
BYD Seal would be a better option if you drive mainly in city/suburbs...but this Sonata is probably better for highway cruising (without range anxiety or charging delay). I suspect the choice depends on the buyer's dominant usage (city vs country drive).
Yep, well summarised. But I think there’s probably more emotion in a purchase like this. It’s not just another blobby SUV for families. So obvious how you use your car will play a part, but you sure aren’t going to accidentally buy a midsized petrol sedan these days.
Love the look. Much nicer looking. I've been looking at the Skoda, but the euro parts and repair premium turn me off along with a single dealership in Perth. That is not convenient for the buyer. The Camry interior is terrible and looks to bloated. The hyundais are looking great, the price tags on their models are also going way up.
Even though some manufacturers offer a longer service interval they do it not because mechanical engineering has changed where materials can defy the laws of physics but because they lie to sell the cars by offering cheaper running costs. However, in the long run, 6,000km or 6 months is the most metal alloy, forged components will go in today's metals without where are tare killing longevity. Oil and filters are cheap compared to blown engines with today's tight tolerances, the more you change filters and oil the better. Some will say oil has improved, But the law of physics hasn't. Moisture from condensation still gets into oil over seasons mixed with any unburnt fuel, to produce acid with water mixed with oil. Fine engine tolerances are damaged from the acidic oils not being able to lubricate as efficiently. I own a Hyundai i3o CN7 sedan and it is flawless because oil and filter changes are regular every 6 months or 6, 000 km. The engine was run in properly to produce a car that would last a very long time.
Good on you for introducing EVs as potential cross-shopping for ICE cars in a similar price range. They should definitely be cross-shopped and viewed as just another powertrain option such as diesel or hybrid etc.
The engine and transmission are an option in the Genesis GV70 and we co-built by Genesis as well. Didn't mention the heads-up display. I won't buy a car without a head-up display.
No. There's a serious error in the way you read the pricing. The price I listed is MSRP - before on-road costs. The price you're stating is the drive-away price from the website... right?
Nice car, great review. It seems spacious and comfortable. Mechanically good engine, service intervals a bit disappointing. Hyundai have certainly come of age. The speed sign “beep” would drive me nuts. Are sedans becoming more popular again? They deserve to be considered, that’s for sure. I wonder if Hyundai will look at an EV version of this car. I like it, but please stop the speed sign beep. Thanks for a great and balanced review.
While I like a sedan, a liftback gives so many more options, currently running an octavia... Hyundai & BYD should take note....forgot to mention Hyunday & Kia need to work on service intervals for turbocharged petrol models, I guess that means increasing the engines durability...
I was thinking the Mazda 6 turbo was an obvious omission, it would certainly be on my radar when I replace my 2021 Passat, as would this Hyundai on test and the Skoda Superb
I own a2016 GT MAZDA 6 I love it, wanted a new 6, but it's way too out dated, the tech is 10yrs old, styling is still great but dated... come on mazda release a new 6 please.
Love the look, power is good. Don't know about only being front wheel drive and no adaptive suspension though. It's a lot of power to put down to the front. Torque steer won't be your freind. Does not matter anyway because I can't handel all the bings and bongs they put into the Hyundai cars now. Yes I know you can turn it off but you need to do it each time so till they remove them all give you an option to turn them off perm I won't consider thier cars. The 10k service intervals are a bit annoying too. 8t shows Hyundai don't really trust thier engines. It's a shame too as they make nice cars, especially the I30 N sedan.
Thanks mate. Yep, the binging and bonging is a real turn off. My mate who is a mechanic reckons all engines - to ensure their longevity - should be serviced 10,000km, or even 5000km! But it all costs money.
Yeah doesn’t mean there aren’t cars out there, though. People tend to shop at their closest dealership, but there are vehicles in stock in places you might not typically think of. Regional dealerships often have options for buyers!
I’ve owned a 2017 Skoda Sportline 206 wagon since then & it’s been absolutely fantastic! Only slight issue I’ve had is on occasion the reverse camera blanks out but that’s it! Best car/wagon I’ve ever owned & I’ve had several late model Mercedes.
I just bought one in Serenity White which will be a 4 month wait, but one thing I forgot to look at is if it has power folding mirrors. Does anyone know?
@gertsy2000 Thanks! Yeah I'm over the SUV craze too. We're way past covid times when people couldn't fly and bought SUVs for travel. I don't see the point of having a car on stilts that handles like a boat and has less room than a sedan. I love my car!
Absolutely agree!!!! Sonata N Line for the win!!!! PS4L!!!! Congratulations on your new car!!! I’m glad you’re loving your car as well!!!! It is so underrated, especially for its price point!!! It’s Lit!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ford are just following the crowd. EV won’t last, we need a better alternative… I’m a diesel fan myself, though it’s harder n harder to find them. I’ll stick with our C4 deisel which gives us a constant 5L/100k’s. Really enjoy your reviews.
problem with diesel today is Euro 6, EGR, SCR ad DPF, all headaches if you live in the city/metro or do highway towing (re: SCR otherwise known commercial as Ad Blue) for passenger cars, most are Euro 6 even the Euro 5 ones have all 3 emissions control systems onboard. If you can find a non abused Ford MC Mondeo (which would now be around 11 years old) turbo diesel which has good service history especially for the (wet) DCT otherwise know as "Powershift" and has low km's they are Euro 4 (no DPF or SCR) but again has to have good service history, the "MD" version are Euro 5 and as such have DPF (but no SCR) but again service history is a must otherwise stay away as the DCT are a nightmare to get fixed money wise. My old work place had many MB/MC Mondeo wagon turbo diesel as fleet cars, fuel economy for the fleet cars where around 7L per 100km average, as long as the DCT was serviced every 30,000km (fluid) and the circuit switch changed at 60,000km (which is major service), that said Ford shifted away from fleet sales with the MD Mondeo as the fleet warranty repairs were costing them heaps in claims.
@@therightcar that's one reason I haven't ordered the new Palisade. It ticks every box as a family car. Am also looking for a large sports sedan for leisure. Had my eyes on this, but the moment you mentioned traffic sign recognition, I'm walking away. Looks like I might have to top up a bit more for a 320i
I have it in the X-Trail but in the menu system you can switch off the auditable warning beeps and instead on the Heads Up display it will flash when there is a recognised speed sign change, problem is the system is not fool proof and as such will flash wrong speed limits if it reads off ramps, also it cant tell the difference between when there is a school zone time, re: it's 8pm a night yet the display flashed 40km/h also on Sunday etc. But at least it does not beep and stays quiet as the owner has requested it to. the Koreans manufacturers need to realise that Australia is not the damn USA in tis regard.
Hello Matt I like watching on TH-cam shows car new car people I love like new car 2024 Hyundai Sonata n-line sedan auto very nice good looking cars pensioners nice cars get one for 2024 Hyundai Sonata n-line sedan auto get finance on one car
Lovely turbo petrol i4 with decent torque and power, seriously 422Nm is nice and fat and I'm sure that the torque curve means awesome mid range BOOST (how I miss mid range BOOST, seriously large displacement NA petrol i4 have ZERO mid range punch but tat is another story for another day). for the record a 4.9L Ford "Windsor" V8 from the AU Falcon back in 2001 made 200kW and 420Nm and that was mated to a 5-speed Borg Warner "T5" manual or a BTR 4-speed torque converter so yeah engine tech has come a long way. no doubt if you push a turbo petrol it will bite at the fuel pump but that's the beauty of turbo petrol also with a fat torque curve there is zero need to push into 5,000rpm or more as the engine's sweet spot will be the actual torque curve which for this vehicle is 2,000 to 4,500rpm (which is 198kW at the fly wheel) and in this instance the DCT makes sense as there is more than enough torque t pull tall gears and since its a DCT that also means two sets of final drive ratios, ok enough about the technical side. I love the seats but dislike the rest of the interior design, eeewww the twin digital screen in a one motion sweep is yukky (reason why I steered clear of the Tucson) as its touch input for HVAC, seriously who came up with that stupid idea? as for the rest or this? makes for a good police detectives car, for personal use well as we all know that no one buys sedans for personal family use these days, that said it is better than a Camry? Hybrid? no but petrol Camry YES. Another great review Matt.
@@therightcar - sadly I know, that said Taylor is ok as a artist but as a performer? okay'ish, prefer SLAYER ... kidding ... Actually I'm big into mashup's right now, I mainly listen to "Ray C" and "Bill McClitock" and Australia's very own "Wax Audio" remixed music. As for the Camry? Give Toyota credit, they developed a "double wish bone IRS" for a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car, I mean that is basically a sports bias rear suspension set up, the only Australian made car which had the same suspension set up but was rear wheel drive was the AU Falcon way back in 1998 to 2002, why Toyota developed such a complex rear suspension for the Camry is only known to Toyota, but good on them, also the last one with the 3.5L V6 were rippers, the North American market to this day still have Toyota Camry TRD which would be the equiv Falcon XR6 / Commodore SV6, we don't get that here but yeah they are still big sellers in that market region.
No wonder Hyundai's resale value suffers. They bloody cosmetically change their vehicles sooo often. It is a sharp driving n sharper looking car though. You're damn right about the touch ventilation controls Matt. They are hard to use. (Glad my palisade has a button for everything, lol) But again not a great buying perspective as resale will severly suffer due to lack of variants n numbers.
Thanks for your thoughts mate. I mean, midsize sedans (apart from hybrid Camry models) tend to have rubbish resale anyway, no matter the brand - from Mazda to Mercedes.
@therightcar That's so true Matt. Apart from camry hybrid , which majorly gets used for taxi n ride share, medium sedans are rare on roads now. Even though there are some really great options these days.
I just finished a 12800klm journey from Cairns...Brisbane...Newcastle....Bathurst....Barossa...Adelaide....Grampians....Great Ocean Rd, ...Geelong.....Yarra Glen.....Mornington Peninsula.....Merimbula....Canberra...Sydney....Toowoomba....Airlie Beach...Cairns. Stunning trip. Stunning car. Stunning overtaking ability. Stunning fuel economy 6.3l/100k overall. Got 5.2l/100k between Airlie Beach and Cairns averaging 85kph. Tried 95 octane but it gave me no better economy than 91. Tried to upload pictures via clipboard but I am not sure it has worked . In Reidsdale, I had three occupants, with their luggage, and the Airbnb house was on 5k of dirt roads. No problems at all. Still do not understand the SUV/UTE craze. My 4 laps at Mt. Panoroma was a treat.
Awesome - sounds like an epic adventure!
every time I go to Bathurst I end up doing at least 5 laps of Mt Panorama ... lovely road to drive on even at legal (and sometime no so legal but shhh ahem as I cough) speeds and within the correct lanes.
You did all that in a Sonata? Which car did you drive? Not being sarcastic actually curious
@tommymotolla4604 Hi TM, there is only one model in Australia and that is the high performance 2.5 litre N LINE. I am currently making a YT video to record the very satisfying highway fuel consumption of this wonderful car. I published my first report in June/July. Put Sonata N Line Fuel Consumption and you will see what freeway/highway consumption I was getting before the long 13k trip. Thanks for your interest.
@tommymotolla4604 Here's a direct link to my first fuel consumption report, Tommy. th-cam.com/video/1nCvezfP_lQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZaJ79th5U_HFP5Rs
Now, that I am back from my trip my odometer is indicating currently that I am getting 7.2l/100k. That is from short little urban trips but Cairns is not like Sydney or California in terms of density and number of traffic lights.
What a great car! I never realise how nostalgic I am for the family sedan until I see a good one on the market. Love the facelifted design too!
Couldn't agree more!
The facelift is phenomenal! looks 100x better than the previous!
To paraphrase "a camry would be a good car if you dont need excitment in your life"
As true now as it was 20 years ago!!!!
I’ve got a Camry review coming next week… and it’s not that black and white!
@@therightcar oh!!! Very good..cause the styling is rather good and there aren't many medium/large sedans that are reliable and relatively cheap.... Hopefully you comment on the Lexus version.... I will have to tune in but fortunately I made the decision to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE and HIT THE BELL!!111
not true, in the North American market there are "sporty" Camry which would of been the equiv to our former Falcon XR6 and Commodore SV6, eve this gen Camry came with 3.5L V6 petrol power and of all things a "double wish bone IRS" which was tuned for grip, why it needed a Double Wish Bone IRS is only known to Toyota but it had it, the last Australia built car to ever have that type of rear suspension was the AU Falcon in Fairmont Ghia, XR8 and LWB Falirlane/LTD way back in 1998 to 2002.
LOL even the Rav4 has a double wish bone IRS again for what reason? only Toyota know.
I honestly forgot this car still existed in Australia! This facelift is spectacular! It's completely transformed the look of this car and it's worked! The previous Sonata looked like a bloated sad looking deep sea ocean fish, this one is sharp and athletic. On looks alone I'd buy this over the Toyota Camry hands down! However, those annoying chimes would put me right off!
Because of the sloping rear on these, I'm surprised they weren't designed as a liftback! Liftbacks are so much more practical than 'coupe' looking sedans, Skoda certainly has the better option in the Octavia liftback. And I agree with you Matt, I'd love to see how the Sonata would look if Hyundai had done a wagon!
Liftback is so 1980's maybe in Austrailia people buy cars with liftbacks but everywhere else liftback is no go. Skoda is a Russian/Czech car. besides liftback what option does it have over the Sonata?? The Sonata has better tech in it, and is BETTER built.
A few feedback with the system as I have the same in the kona. You have some dedicated favourites button, which you can set to turn off instead of finding through the screen if you decide to leave them on you can set the volume to its minimum where it's barely noticeable.
Don't worry, the carry hasplenty of chimes as well
For sure I Will choose this beauty over the Camry and Accord!! Wow
It’s a stunner!
This!!!! Absolutely agree with you!!! I’m new to Hyundai cars, but I love my onyx black metallic SNL!!! It’s quick, refined, handles better than my 2017 Buick Regal 2.0 turbo car and my Mustangs and Shelby GT500’s I’ve owned in the past!!! PS4L!!!! It’s Lit!!! 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nice car and review Matt. A great model upgrade inside and out. That said why isn't the Australian market getting it with AWD as the overseas model? The would be the cherry on top of the cake.
Thanks alot, @Matt.
With all the annoying functions and chimes in cars these days that some buyers might consider to be deal breakers, it would be great if your reviews could include confirming if/how these can be disabled.
For example, on my 2023 Outback, the speed camera warning chime was a very loud and unpleasant shock, which thankfully I was able to permanently disable. There is Auto Start /Stop and four drivers aids, including Driver monitoring, Lane Keep Assist and Auto Emergency Braking, that I don’t like and I always manually turn off every time I start the car, but at least I have the choice to do that. I’d love it if car reviews don’t just tell us how annoying these features can be but whether they can be disabled. This disabling capability is not always possible for a would-be buyer to figure out on the average test drive.
Thanks for the feedback. I won’t be doing detailed videos on how to disable things, though. I gloss over it because if you buy a car you can look it up yourself in the manual, or ask the dealership.
The reason is it interrupts the flow. As a creator you’ve got to keep people engaged and going down rabbit holes on specific things will lose viewers. Thanks for your feedback!
Loved the review and also the BYD commercial in the beginning 😄😄
Ooh good to know there was a BYD ad at the start. I don’t get to see whose ads show to viewers.
The LED driving lights bar doesn’t look cheap if need to replace it 😊
I currently own a Skoda and it has been excellent, so would definitely consider Skoda as my first choice.
No tech issues with the safety gear or infotainment? If that’s the case, I’m glad it’s being good to you. The one I had (see review at CarsGuide TH-cam) was a nightmare for tech gremlins.
I have the SL hybrid and what a car. Nothing comes close on value for money including purchase, running and service costs.
Out of 3 cars, including a rav4 cruiser hybrid its the best.
Great review Matt but like you not interested in sedans. In my case too close to the ground, getting in and out. That engine and transmission would be great in Tuscon / Sportage.
BYD Seal would be a better option if you drive mainly in city/suburbs...but this Sonata is probably better for highway cruising (without range anxiety or charging delay). I suspect the choice depends on the buyer's dominant usage (city vs country drive).
Yep, well summarised. But I think there’s probably more emotion in a purchase like this. It’s not just another blobby SUV for families. So obvious how you use your car will play a part, but you sure aren’t going to accidentally buy a midsized petrol sedan these days.
Not everyone wants a ev and this drives better than that
@@mharro88not saying you’re wrong, but how can you be certain if you haven’t driven either on Aussie roads
We don't want EV,S, these are not environmental friendly cars, when will people wake up.
@@The-Wise-One lol they're clearly more environmentally but need improvement in battery tech agree
Could you please refer a 2023 Mazda 6, great review and an impressive sedan
Pity it’s not an AWD 😊
It would be a helluva car with AWD.
Love the look. Much nicer looking. I've been looking at the Skoda, but the euro parts and repair premium turn me off along with a single dealership in Perth. That is not convenient for the buyer.
The Camry interior is terrible and looks to bloated.
The hyundais are looking great, the price tags on their models are also going way up.
You were all smiles throughout the review. 😂
Glad you noticed 😂
Even though some manufacturers offer a longer service interval they do it not because mechanical engineering has changed where materials can defy the laws of physics but because they lie to sell the cars by offering cheaper running costs. However, in the long run, 6,000km or 6 months is the most metal alloy, forged components will go in today's metals without where are tare killing longevity.
Oil and filters are cheap compared to blown engines with today's tight tolerances, the more you change filters and oil the better.
Some will say oil has improved, But the law of physics hasn't. Moisture from condensation still gets into oil over seasons mixed with any unburnt fuel, to produce acid with water mixed with oil. Fine engine tolerances are damaged from the acidic oils not being able to lubricate as efficiently.
I own a Hyundai i3o CN7 sedan and it is flawless because oil and filter changes are regular every 6 months or 6, 000 km. The engine was run in properly to produce a car that would last a very long time.
Thanks for that. Glad you’re keeping your car pristine!
Agreed. If you want your car to last a long time oil and filter changes every 5 - 6,000 km is a must.
Many parts from the new Kona. It looks like Hyundai is slowly moving into a design language across their range.
You can turn all the beeping off in the settings
Yeah. Every freakin time you drive it. No thanks.
Good on you for introducing EVs as potential cross-shopping for ICE cars in a similar price range. They should definitely be cross-shopped and viewed as just another powertrain option such as diesel or hybrid etc.
Thanks - people are telling me that’s what they’re weighing up. So it’s good to offer alternatives that suit different buying stages.
Hybrids are much more economical for the average buyer,
The engine and transmission are an option in the Genesis GV70 and we co-built by Genesis as well. Didn't mention the heads-up display. I won't buy a car without a head-up display.
I don’t know why more people aren’t buying medium sedan, for me they are better family cars than SUV’s
This one is a goodn.
finally the video is out!
Hope you liked it!
There is a serious error in the pricing you quote, it costs $61038 not $55500
No. There's a serious error in the way you read the pricing. The price I listed is MSRP - before on-road costs. The price you're stating is the drive-away price from the website... right?
Does it come with a blind view monitor camera???
Nice car, great review. It seems spacious and comfortable. Mechanically good engine, service intervals a bit disappointing. Hyundai have certainly come of age. The speed sign “beep” would drive me nuts. Are sedans becoming more popular again? They deserve to be considered, that’s for sure. I wonder if Hyundai will look at an EV version of this car. I like it, but please stop the speed sign beep. Thanks for a great and balanced review.
Have you reviewed the i30N sedan?
No I haven’t. I’ve got a standard i30 review coming. But the facelift N sedan is a while away.
Thanks. Does anyone know the equivalent to this sedan in Kia ? !
They have the K5, which is similar, or the K8, which is gorgeous.
@@therightcar thanks 👌
@@therightcar thanks a lot 👌
While I like a sedan, a liftback gives so many more options, currently running an octavia... Hyundai & BYD should take note....forgot to mention Hyunday & Kia need to work on service intervals for turbocharged petrol models, I guess that means increasing the engines durability...
Yep, liftbacks rule.
And yes, turbo engines should be matching non-turbos!
Love the design, but I'd go for a Mazda 6 GT wagon.
Tech is dated, design old. Will be interesting to see what the next gen brings
It’s still a stunner.
I was thinking the Mazda 6 turbo was an obvious omission, it would certainly be on my radar when I replace my 2021 Passat, as would this Hyundai on test and the Skoda Superb
I own a2016 GT MAZDA 6 I love it, wanted a new 6, but it's way too out dated, the tech is 10yrs old, styling is still great but dated... come on mazda release a new 6 please.
Love the look, power is good. Don't know about only being front wheel drive and no adaptive suspension though. It's a lot of power to put down to the front. Torque steer won't be your freind.
Does not matter anyway because I can't handel all the bings and bongs they put into the Hyundai cars now. Yes I know you can turn it off but you need to do it each time so till they remove them all give you an option to turn them off perm I won't consider thier cars.
The 10k service intervals are a bit annoying too. 8t shows Hyundai don't really trust thier engines.
It's a shame too as they make nice cars, especially the I30 N sedan.
Thanks mate.
Yep, the binging and bonging is a real turn off.
My mate who is a mechanic reckons all engines - to ensure their longevity - should be serviced 10,000km, or even 5000km! But it all costs money.
Not sure Camry Hybrid is a rival - haven’t Toyota Australia stopped taking orders with ~3 year waiting list at current supply?
Yeah doesn’t mean there aren’t cars out there, though. People tend to shop at their closest dealership, but there are vehicles in stock in places you might not typically think of. Regional dealerships often have options for buyers!
Hi Matt, Love the reviews could you do a Skoda Superb 206 sportline.
Hi mate. Thanks for that! I won’t be doing a current generation Superb, sorry. The new-gen model will be it for the channel.
I’ve owned a 2017 Skoda Sportline 206 wagon since then & it’s been absolutely fantastic! Only slight issue I’ve had is on occasion the reverse camera blanks out but that’s it! Best car/wagon I’ve ever owned & I’ve had several late model Mercedes.
Oooh yes please 😎😎😎
Cool hey??
It still astounds me that modern front wheel drive vehicles, still feature a transmission tunnel/hump in the rear..WTH??
Exhaust!!
The Sonata is way ahead in styling than Camry and especially the Accord!....
I just bought one in Serenity White which will be a 4 month wait, but one thing I forgot to look at is if it has power folding mirrors. Does anyone know?
Yes it does. Have you got it yet?
@@gertsy2000 Received mine about 5 wks ago. Came in 2 months earlier. Love it!
@@slyarsenal So cool. Congrats. A top car. So over SUV noise.
@gertsy2000 Thanks! Yeah I'm over the SUV craze too. We're way past covid times when people couldn't fly and bought SUVs for travel. I don't see the point of having a car on stilts that handles like a boat and has less room than a sedan. I love my car!
Absolutely agree!!!! Sonata N Line for the win!!!! PS4L!!!! Congratulations on your new car!!! I’m glad you’re loving your car as well!!!! It is so underrated, especially for its price point!!! It’s Lit!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
A nice looking sedan 🙂
It sure is!
Why not test the facelifted i30 sedan?
I will. Very shortly. It hasn’t been available up til now, but cars are due out in the coming weeks.
Why no AWD in this market, or at least the LSD from the other N cars? It’s screaming out for it
Ford are just following the crowd. EV won’t last, we need a better alternative… I’m a diesel fan myself, though it’s harder n harder to find them. I’ll stick with our C4 deisel which gives us a constant 5L/100k’s.
Really enjoy your reviews.
Thanks mate.
problem with diesel today is Euro 6, EGR, SCR ad DPF, all headaches if you live in the city/metro or do highway towing (re: SCR otherwise known commercial as Ad Blue) for passenger cars, most are Euro 6 even the Euro 5 ones have all 3 emissions control systems onboard. If you can find a non abused Ford MC Mondeo (which would now be around 11 years old) turbo diesel which has good service history especially for the (wet) DCT otherwise know as "Powershift" and has low km's they are Euro 4 (no DPF or SCR) but again has to have good service history, the "MD" version are Euro 5 and as such have DPF (but no SCR) but again service history is a must otherwise stay away as the DCT are a nightmare to get fixed money wise.
My old work place had many MB/MC Mondeo wagon turbo diesel as fleet cars, fuel economy for the fleet cars where around 7L per 100km average, as long as the DCT was serviced every 30,000km (fluid) and the circuit switch changed at 60,000km (which is major service), that said Ford shifted away from fleet sales with the MD Mondeo as the fleet warranty repairs were costing them heaps in claims.
Way cooler than Camry but no hybrid variant
I was a Skoda RS all day
But now I don’t know
This is a really great option if you’re cool with a sedan. There’s also a mute button for that beeping tech now, too!!
Speed sign recognition is a deal breaker for me :(
It’s a shockingly implemented tech feature.
@@therightcar that's one reason I haven't ordered the new Palisade. It ticks every box as a family car.
Am also looking for a large sports sedan for leisure. Had my eyes on this, but the moment you mentioned traffic sign recognition, I'm walking away.
Looks like I might have to top up a bit more for a 320i
@@darthmelbius would like a confirmation on this. Definitely consider getting the Sonata if it can be switched to a silent warning
I have it in the X-Trail but in the menu system you can switch off the auditable warning beeps and instead on the Heads Up display it will flash when there is a recognised speed sign change, problem is the system is not fool proof and as such will flash wrong speed limits if it reads off ramps, also it cant tell the difference between when there is a school zone time, re: it's 8pm a night yet the display flashed 40km/h also on Sunday etc. But at least it does not beep and stays quiet as the owner has requested it to. the Koreans manufacturers need to realise that Australia is not the damn USA in tis regard.
Speed sign warning is annoying, seating is high - Hamm first world problems. Poor guy.
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Lovely turbo petrol i4 with decent torque and power, seriously 422Nm is nice and fat and I'm sure that the torque curve means awesome mid range BOOST (how I miss mid range BOOST, seriously large displacement NA petrol i4 have ZERO mid range punch but tat is another story for another day). for the record a 4.9L Ford "Windsor" V8 from the AU Falcon back in 2001 made 200kW and 420Nm and that was mated to a 5-speed Borg Warner "T5" manual or a BTR 4-speed torque converter so yeah engine tech has come a long way. no doubt if you push a turbo petrol it will bite at the fuel pump but that's the beauty of turbo petrol also with a fat torque curve there is zero need to push into 5,000rpm or more as the engine's sweet spot will be the actual torque curve which for this vehicle is 2,000 to 4,500rpm (which is 198kW at the fly wheel) and in this instance the DCT makes sense as there is more than enough torque t pull tall gears and since its a DCT that also means two sets of final drive ratios, ok enough about the technical side.
I love the seats but dislike the rest of the interior design, eeewww the twin digital screen in a one motion sweep is yukky (reason why I steered clear of the Tucson) as its touch input for HVAC, seriously who came up with that stupid idea? as for the rest or this? makes for a good police detectives car, for personal use well as we all know that no one buys sedans for personal family use these days, that said it is better than a Camry? Hybrid? no but petrol Camry YES.
Another great review Matt.
Thanks mate!
Funnily enough, I have a Camry review coming out next week…. The car more in demand than Taylor Swift tickets!!
@@therightcar - sadly I know, that said Taylor is ok as a artist but as a performer? okay'ish, prefer SLAYER ... kidding ...
Actually I'm big into mashup's right now, I mainly listen to "Ray C" and "Bill McClitock" and Australia's very own "Wax Audio" remixed music.
As for the Camry? Give Toyota credit, they developed a "double wish bone IRS" for a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car, I mean that is basically a sports bias rear suspension set up, the only Australian made car which had the same suspension set up but was rear wheel drive was the AU Falcon way back in 1998 to 2002, why Toyota developed such a complex rear suspension for the Camry is only known to Toyota, but good on them, also the last one with the 3.5L V6 were rippers, the North American market to this day still have Toyota Camry TRD which would be the equiv Falcon XR6 / Commodore SV6, we don't get that here but yeah they are still big sellers in that market region.
Looks are personal and I do not look the sharp angular design.
stole the rear from the Z
Fair enough.
Hey Brother not a big difference to the N-line Kona inside 👍
Not at all!
More space, quieter ride, more attention put into the construction and styling of the interior
No wonder Hyundai's resale value suffers. They bloody cosmetically change their vehicles sooo often.
It is a sharp driving n sharper looking car though. You're damn right about the touch ventilation controls Matt. They are hard to use. (Glad my palisade has a button for everything, lol)
But again not a great buying perspective as resale will severly suffer due to lack of variants n numbers.
Thanks for your thoughts mate. I mean, midsize sedans (apart from hybrid Camry models) tend to have rubbish resale anyway, no matter the brand - from Mazda to Mercedes.
@therightcar That's so true Matt. Apart from camry hybrid , which majorly gets used for taxi n ride share, medium sedans are rare on roads now. Even though there are some really great options these days.
I just don't get it...its petrol!
Yes. Which is what the MAJORITY of cars run on in Australia.
Of course it's petrol. You can actually drive it all around Australia. Electric is only for city driving.
Not a fan of the wheels
Still no wireless CarPlay? Hyundai pathetic
It’s annoying that’s for sure.
The salesman told me it had wired car play and that it will be upgraded to wireless in due course using over-the-air upgrades @@therightcar
No one in Australia going to pay $62k for a Hyundai Sonata sedan. Unless he is a rich kid from Korea lol.
I've seen a couple. You'd be surprised to learn that there are several older white dudes who still want sedans.
I want one. Already Ordered.
Well, when the Koreans can get engines to last, I might consider one. BUT, they don't.
Hey. Some of their engines last.