The more the channel grows the more different manufacturers realize they’re missing out by not sending a Silencers for testing. So we have lots and we have many more coming.
Like your content Rob! You've already saved me from making a few mistakes. Commenting in relation to the wait time question. My form 4 approval times have averaged between 36 and 48 hours so far and that's across a sample size of four cans purchased in the span of the last month and a half. Two were directly from my FFL (already sitting in his shop) and two were purchased online and had to be form 3'd to his shop. Form 3 approval times were 2-3 days. According to him, as long as you're not one of those unlucky individuals that always gets delayed on a NICS check, form 4 approvals are coming back in a week or less. I am 100% one of "those people" that didn't want to pay the government $200 and then wait 9 months to a year for them to say "yes you can have that." As soon as my FFL told me wait times had consistently dropped to a week or less it was game on for me to start lighting money on fire 😂😂😂
Glad we could help you save time and money in your selection process. Yes there’s a lot of silliness about getting Suppressors but I think a lot of that is gonna change in the next few few years. Thank you for your positive feedback and support.
Another informative and well done video, lean and mean without any fat. I too have tinnitus and loss of hearing from years of range time. On the subject of hearing protection, I have always preferred ear plugs as they seal out more of the noise vs muffs which can leak noise from the eye pro temples. My former agency rangemasters mandated muffs on the basis of potential bone conduction hearing damage, which I challenged them to show me the studies, which they could not. They were simply parroting info passed to them. My argument was if there was such a thing, the entire skull would be conductive. The studies I researched did not show any conclusive proof of bone conduction hearing loss. Do you have any insight on this issue?
I have quite a lot of opinions on the information you put forth. I agree with you on many fronts. But as is many things, it’s not a short statement. I think it would be a great idea for us to make a video specifically on this topic. Thank you for the suggestion and look forward to a video on our recommendations for hearing protection. Thank you for your positive feedback support and your experiences. They are valuable to us and they help the algorithm.
Totally! The beauty of Bullpup Rifles is there overall shortness. And their balance point. The problem is very few of them are truly ambidextrous. And in the end, their manual of arms are usually a little bit weird. So you really have to commit to the understanding of the weapon. I have a few myself and I like them, but I don’t think they’ll ever replace my love for my AR 15. Thank you for sharing and your positive feedback.
@@Ertactical I honestly think that the weight distribution is a way bigger boon than the length. You being a lefty, I get it the discomfort with them. But hot damn does my suppressed AUG feel slick. I actually don't own an AR in 5.56 right now because of it. It does everything I would need a 5.56 AR to do 😅
The heat is the thing people expect the least because they're used to how gun barrels or pistol slides get hot, not understanding that a suppressor heats up four times faster.
100% agreed! And it can be dangerous if they’re not careful. Thank you for the positive feedback and your comments. They really do help boost the channel.
We made an attempt to get decal readings on several Suppressors and the equipment did not meet the standard. We looked into renting the equipment and it cost around $7000 to hold onto it for one week for testing. To buy the equipment somewhere around $60,000. We did however find All of the decibel readings all compiled by the same people in the same location with a three day span. We’re going to be sharing all of that information very soon as it is probably the best decibel data. We have found so far. Likely you will find what I have found. The data is very similar and disappointing. Decibel readings is a single data point. It tells you the volume, but not the tone. There are many other ways to measure sound and we’re working on a video that will make that, very clear to understand.
Well said! And the more we can educate people to these trade-offs the more satisfied they will be with their purchase having understood what they’re getting into. Thank you for supporting our channel.
Always a great day when I see another great video with lots of good info. One thing I would have liked to see added to the backpressure section is how much dirtier your firearm gets with more backpressure. Shooting my Tavor with an HXQD vs a Nomad L really shows how much dirtier high backpressure cans are.
glad you are digging the info! yes we did cover that in a vid about how dirty the gun will get.. the truth is there is SOOO much info we want to share and we have to give as much as we can where we can. these are wave tops and not deep dives in order to cover so many topics in only 10 min. but yes you are 100% correct. there are so many things to dislike about back pressure. thank you for your feed back and support!
i always double up as well, i'm hoping a suppressor will help be a second layer so i can take off the bulky earmuffs as they interfere with getting a good cheek weld on some of my guns. otherwise i'll be tripling up! :D
I know the materials are not cheap, and the design costs are a factor, but the precision manufacturing shouldn't be huge with modern machining. I sure hope the prices come WAY down soon. I don't want a cheesey supressor, but it sure seems like they cost too much for what they are.
I applaud you for stressing hearing protection even when shooting suppressed. Having been born with hearing loss I assure anyone watching your video that you don't want to take chances.
I waited just over 10 months for my last suppressor my Omega 300. Currently waiting 2 months for my Hybrid 46M...gun trust more than likely is the hold up since a few of my buddies have received theirs in 1 day and a couple of days without a trust.
Great video! I see your ever-increasing collection of whisper pickles🥒 is lacking CAT WB and ODB. Would be interested to see how you rank them against your current collections.
Flow through is the cleanest for the user end but might be louder and a bit flashy at the muzzle end. PIP from PTR is good but metal foam gets dirty pretty fast and it's a bit long. Surge bypass might be the best overall, as it is as quiet as Hux for the user, but also as quiet as a baffled can on the muzzle end. It mitigates flash excellently(Inconel), doesn't dirty nearly as fast as PIP and isn't so long. For those that don't require Inconel, the Ti version cuts the weight in half, which is crazy light.
We actually have been working hard to get our hands on some of those Suppressors. The interesting thing is we asked some of our viewers when they asked us. To reach out to the manufacturers of Suppressors that we don’t have and send them an email requesting that they get one of their Suppressors on our channel. Because of this CAT did reach out to us. The other ones still have not. So if there’s any Suppressors, we we have not tested. Please feel free to send them an email telling them to put their money with their mouth is lol we love testing and will continue to test any suppressors that come our way.I think we have a suppressor coming soon. It is the votes of our viewers that is making the channel successful and getting our hands on more Suppressors so feel free to submit your vote to those manufacturers so we can test more things. Thank you for your support in advance.
That is a great idea! Maybe I’ll cover that topic in a short video. I do have a lot of things I’d like to explain before I give a short opinion so it might actually be a long form. Rob’s opinions tend to not be short lol
It sounds like somebody the Atf doesn’t like you lol I’m sorry. I’m sure Christmas is coming soon. Our most recent suppressor cleared in just 21 hours.
Thank you for the support! I’m glad you’re enjoying that suppressor. It’s definitely something new and exciting in our industry. Also check out some of what BNT is doing. Also all leaks some information to you. The Silenceco reduced back pressure at 762 Silencer is performing extremely well. Velos 762
I made my first two suppressor purchases using your videos for research. I ended up purchasing a Dead Air Nomad L and a Huxwrx Ventum 556 with silencerco Bravo ASR mounts.
Well, done! Those are two solid Suppressors. Glad our information is becoming a useful resource to you. We love sharing and helping people join our quiet club. Thank you for your positive feedback and support.
Yes, after seeing so many comments requesting a video on this topic. I think we’re going to film exactly that video on Tuesday. I think it’s a great topic and it will be valuable information. Thank you for this suggestion and positive feedback.
Agreed, but consider this. A tax stamp was $200 in 1934 when the NFA was passed, and today, in 2024, it's still the same $200, we're coming out on the better end of the deal. $200 in 1934 would be almost $4700 in today's money when adjusted for inflation/devaluation of the dollar 😬 I don't want to pay the government $200 for them to say "yes you can have that" but it is what it is 🤷♂
If you're not running a suppressor I always say you should wear plugs and muffs together. Yeah it will be harder to hear even with the volume maxed on the muffs but your hearing is worth the inconvenience.
I just bought a Gemtech Abyss 556 today we’ll see how long it takes to get the approval but I can’t wait to try it out. Thanks for all your information.
When you get it, please let us know your thoughts on that suppressor. We’ve spoken to gemtech a few times and they said they’re going to send us suppressor, but then they stopped talking to us. If you have a minute, please email them asking them to get a suppressor our way for testing. Thank you for your support.
Interesting question. And a fair question. However the answer is kind of complicated. When adding a suppressor to a bolt action rifle, you will feel reduced recoil. When adding a suppressor to a gas operated weapon, it should reduce recoil, however, it increases back pressure which term increases bolt speed. This can make the gun feel like it has more recoil when you add suppressor. When you turn the gas system so that it decreases the bolt speed you’ll find the suppressor will do its job and reduce felt recoil once your rifle is tuned appropriately.
Oh man, I’m glad someone’s appreciating the effort of equal spacing and alignment of my suppressor collection time after time. We love what we do and it is a labor of love. But it is still work lol. Thank you for your support and positive feedback.
i swear that collection gets larger every video
Yes it does 😆
He's on 71 I think
The more the channel grows the more different manufacturers realize they’re missing out by not sending a Silencers for testing. So we have lots and we have many more coming.
Like your content Rob! You've already saved me from making a few mistakes. Commenting in relation to the wait time question. My form 4 approval times have averaged between 36 and 48 hours so far and that's across a sample size of four cans purchased in the span of the last month and a half. Two were directly from my FFL (already sitting in his shop) and two were purchased online and had to be form 3'd to his shop. Form 3 approval times were 2-3 days. According to him, as long as you're not one of those unlucky individuals that always gets delayed on a NICS check, form 4 approvals are coming back in a week or less. I am 100% one of "those people" that didn't want to pay the government $200 and then wait 9 months to a year for them to say "yes you can have that." As soon as my FFL told me wait times had consistently dropped to a week or less it was game on for me to start lighting money on fire 😂😂😂
Haha…thanks for your support and we appreciate you sharing your experiences!
Glad we could help you save time and money in your selection process. Yes there’s a lot of silliness about getting Suppressors but I think a lot of that is gonna change in the next few few years. Thank you for your positive feedback and support.
Another informative and well done video, lean and mean without any fat. I too have tinnitus and loss of hearing from years of range time. On the subject of hearing protection, I have always preferred ear plugs as they seal out more of the noise vs muffs which can leak noise from the eye pro temples. My former agency rangemasters mandated muffs on the basis of potential bone conduction hearing damage, which I challenged them to show me the studies, which they could not. They were simply parroting info passed to them. My argument was if there was such a thing, the entire skull would be conductive. The studies I researched did not show any conclusive proof of bone conduction hearing loss. Do you have any insight on this issue?
I have quite a lot of opinions on the information you put forth. I agree with you on many fronts. But as is many things, it’s not a short statement. I think it would be a great idea for us to make a video specifically on this topic. Thank you for the suggestion and look forward to a video on our recommendations for hearing protection. Thank you for your positive feedback support and your experiences. They are valuable to us and they help the algorithm.
I'm surprised at how rarely people recommend others to wear double hearing protection.
me 2!
On a related note. Would love to get your perspective on hearing protection devices ranking best to worst.
That’s a great idea! Maybe we’ll make a video on that. We have done a video like this in the past, but it was on a different channel.
The second reason is a big reason I love bullpups. I can have a suppressed 16” barrel that still handles like an SBR.
Thanks for watching!
Totally! The beauty of Bullpup Rifles is there overall shortness. And their balance point. The problem is very few of them are truly ambidextrous. And in the end, their manual of arms are usually a little bit weird. So you really have to commit to the understanding of the weapon. I have a few myself and I like them, but I don’t think they’ll ever replace my love for my AR 15. Thank you for sharing and your positive feedback.
@@Ertactical I honestly think that the weight distribution is a way bigger boon than the length. You being a lefty, I get it the discomfort with them. But hot damn does my suppressed AUG feel slick. I actually don't own an AR in 5.56 right now because of it. It does everything I would need a 5.56 AR to do 😅
The heat is the thing people expect the least because they're used to how gun barrels or pistol slides get hot, not understanding that a suppressor heats up four times faster.
100% agreed! And it can be dangerous if they’re not careful. Thank you for the positive feedback and your comments. They really do help boost the channel.
@SilencerSyndicate Hey Rob, any update on the sound testing equipment? I am really looking forward to the decibel comparison videos!
We made an attempt to get decal readings on several Suppressors and the equipment did not meet the standard. We looked into renting the equipment and it cost around $7000 to hold onto it for one week for testing. To buy the equipment somewhere around $60,000. We did however find All of the decibel readings all compiled by the same people in the same location with a three day span. We’re going to be sharing all of that information very soon as it is probably the best decibel data. We have found so far. Likely you will find what I have found. The data is very similar and disappointing. Decibel readings is a single data point. It tells you the volume, but not the tone. There are many other ways to measure sound and we’re working on a video that will make that, very clear to understand.
Merica, I Love Guns!!
Thank you! We love your support
4 days
Four days of solid! The Atf must like you. Our most recent one cleared yesterday morning in 21 hours.
What’s your personal favorite suppressor? If you like them for different categories can you list them as well?
We just made a video specifically on this. You’re going to like it and it should be out the next few days. Thank you for your support.
Tradeoffs, men.
You get the girth, or length.
You get flash suppression or sound.
You get back pressure or you don’t.
Pick your adventure.
Well said! And the more we can educate people to these trade-offs the more satisfied they will be with their purchase having understood what they’re getting into. Thank you for supporting our channel.
Always a great day when I see another great video with lots of good info. One thing I would have liked to see added to the backpressure section is how much dirtier your firearm gets with more backpressure. Shooting my Tavor with an HXQD vs a Nomad L really shows how much dirtier high backpressure cans are.
Thanks for the feedback and support!
glad you are digging the info! yes we did cover that in a vid about how dirty the gun will get.. the truth is there is SOOO much info we want to share and we have to give as much as we can where we can. these are wave tops and not deep dives in order to cover so many topics in only 10 min. but yes you are 100% correct. there are so many things to dislike about back pressure. thank you for your feed back and support!
I double up on ear protection, foam plugs under my muffs. I am just starting out as a new shooter but i am also an older guy, I like my hearing!
100% good choice. I wish I had done that along time ago.
i always double up as well, i'm hoping a suppressor will help be a second layer so i can take off the bulky earmuffs as they interfere with getting a good cheek weld on some of my guns. otherwise i'll be tripling up! :D
Con. They’re expensive.
they sure can be!
I know the materials are not cheap, and the design costs are a factor, but the precision manufacturing shouldn't be huge with modern machining. I sure hope the prices come WAY down soon. I don't want a cheesey supressor, but it sure seems like they cost too much for what they are.
Just don’t be poor. Simple fix
What is the very first gun shown? Looks single shot. With the B5 grip?
I applaud you for stressing hearing protection even when shooting suppressed. Having been born with hearing loss I assure anyone watching your video that you don't want to take chances.
💯🙌🏻❤️
Did not know that you can suffer hearing damage even though you are wearing hearing protection.
For us building our collections without companies help, is it a pro or con that the collection HAS to grow? 😅
I waited just over 10 months for my last suppressor my Omega 300. Currently waiting 2 months for my Hybrid 46M...gun trust more than likely is the hold up since a few of my buddies have received theirs in 1 day and a couple of days without a trust.
Somebody at the Atf does not like you L O L. I’m sorry man. I hope Christmas is coming soon. Our most recent suppressor cleared in 21 hours.
Thanks
Thanks for watching 🍻
thank you
5 days wait for me
these wait times are 🔥
For a one and done would you recommend the flow 556k?
Thanks for the insight.
thank you for your support! =)
Great video! I see your ever-increasing collection of whisper pickles🥒 is lacking CAT WB and ODB.
Would be interested to see how you rank them against your current collections.
Flow through is the cleanest for the user end but might be louder and a bit flashy at the muzzle end. PIP from PTR is good but metal foam gets dirty pretty fast and it's a bit long.
Surge bypass might be the best overall, as it is as quiet as Hux for the user, but also as quiet as a baffled can on the muzzle end. It mitigates flash excellently(Inconel), doesn't dirty nearly as fast as PIP and isn't so long. For those that don't require Inconel, the Ti version cuts the weight in half, which is crazy light.
We actually have been working hard to get our hands on some of those Suppressors. The interesting thing is we asked some of our viewers when they asked us. To reach out to the manufacturers of Suppressors that we don’t have and send them an email requesting that they get one of their Suppressors on our channel. Because of this CAT did reach out to us. The other ones still have not. So if there’s any Suppressors, we we have not tested. Please feel free to send them an email telling them to put their money with their mouth is lol we love testing and will continue to test any suppressors that come our way.I think we have a suppressor coming soon. It is the votes of our viewers that is making the channel successful and getting our hands on more Suppressors so feel free to submit your vote to those manufacturers so we can test more things. Thank you for your support in advance.
Give us a short on Rob’s top 3 hearing protection
That is a great idea! Maybe I’ll cover that topic in a short video. I do have a lot of things I’d like to explain before I give a short opinion so it might actually be a long form. Rob’s opinions tend to not be short lol
Got mine this week. Mine took 8 days
Not bad at all! Just outside of a week. We had one clear yesterday morning in 21 hours.
Been waiting 304 days for two of them, and 85 days on another. Maybe one day I'll get them...
Thanks for sharing, hopefully they will clear soon! 🍻
It sounds like somebody the Atf doesn’t like you lol I’m sorry. I’m sure Christmas is coming soon. Our most recent suppressor cleared in just 21 hours.
@Ertactical that's what I'm thinking haha it's frustrating to say the least.
What is a 304?
Boost. I love my PTR vent 3
Thank you for the support! I’m glad you’re enjoying that suppressor. It’s definitely something new and exciting in our industry. Also check out some of what BNT is doing. Also all leaks some information to you. The Silenceco reduced back pressure at 762 Silencer is performing extremely well. Velos 762
I made my first two suppressor purchases using your videos for research. I ended up purchasing a Dead Air Nomad L and a Huxwrx Ventum 556 with silencerco Bravo ASR mounts.
Well, done! Those are two solid Suppressors. Glad our information is becoming a useful resource to you. We love sharing and helping people join our quiet club. Thank you for your positive feedback and support.
What do you consider is ‘good’ hearing protection?
Maybe it could be a topic for an upcoming video
Yes, after seeing so many comments requesting a video on this topic. I think we’re going to film exactly that video on Tuesday. I think it’s a great topic and it will be valuable information. Thank you for this suggestion and positive feedback.
Biggest Con is the $200 tax stamp.. Love what you folks are doing. Thanks.
Agreed, but consider this. A tax stamp was $200 in 1934 when the NFA was passed, and today, in 2024, it's still the same $200, we're coming out on the better end of the deal. $200 in 1934 would be almost $4700 in today's money when adjusted for inflation/devaluation of the dollar 😬 I don't want to pay the government $200 for them to say "yes you can have that" but it is what it is 🤷♂
Thanks for your support 🍻
Totally agree, with any luck that will go away one of these days.
@@Hondatech26shouldn't have to at all. Sure it might be better now but it would be wrong for it being 1¢ or $1000
If you're not running a suppressor I always say you should wear plugs and muffs together. Yeah it will be harder to hear even with the volume maxed on the muffs but your hearing is worth the inconvenience.
Totally agree. Information I wish I had had years ago. Thank you for your positive feedback and support. The comments really do help.
I waited EXACTLY 5 months, to receive my most recent suppressor
Ouch! Somebody at the Atf does not like you lol our most recent suppressor was cleared and only 21 days and that was yesterday morning.
I just bought a Gemtech Abyss 556 today we’ll see how long it takes to get the approval but I can’t wait to try it out. Thanks for all your information.
When you get it, please let us know your thoughts on that suppressor. We’ve spoken to gemtech a few times and they said they’re going to send us suppressor, but then they stopped talking to us. If you have a minute, please email them asking them to get a suppressor our way for testing. Thank you for your support.
Sound is a huge factor when introducing people to firearms. Numerous times people have said, “I just can’t deal with the noise”
Well said, we strongly agree. Thank you for your positive feedback and support.
Thank you
Another amazing video!!
Thank you ❤
America
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!! Thanks for all the work on these vids!
Thank you for your support!
For the Alogorithm!
Great info my man!
Thanks for watching 🍻
In your opinion, do suppressors increase or decrease recoil?
Decrease
Interesting question. And a fair question. However the answer is kind of complicated. When adding a suppressor to a bolt action rifle, you will feel reduced recoil. When adding a suppressor to a gas operated weapon, it should reduce recoil, however, it increases back pressure which term increases bolt speed. This can make the gun feel like it has more recoil when you add suppressor. When you turn the gas system so that it decreases the bolt speed you’ll find the suppressor will do its job and reduce felt recoil once your rifle is tuned appropriately.
America!
Thank you! Your comments really do help boost the awareness of this video.
Another great informative video. Keep it up!
Thank you for your positive feedback and support. It really does help us.
This is great! 🙌🏻
Thank you for your positive feedback and support. The comments really do help the algorithm.
Great analysis.
Thanks for watching 🍻
Thank you for the positive feedback and support
48 hour approval for my last suppressor in March
Same, 2 days for me.
That is an excellent turnaround time, we just set a new record for ourselves with 21 hours yesterday. Good things are happening.
Props for pulling out all those cans and lining them up for every video lol
Oh man, I’m glad someone’s appreciating the effort of equal spacing and alignment of my suppressor collection time after time. We love what we do and it is a labor of love. But it is still work lol. Thank you for your support and positive feedback.