The cost of living (in a tent) crisis
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Most companies are flat out taking the effing piss, especially out of us brits.
never let a good disaster go to waste
Sadly it’s everywhere, australia is so crazy expensive to live everything has gone up it’s ridiculous
@@thirstymercfan everything except wages!
Exactly! All companies taking advantage of the situation and putting the prices higher than needed
@@ProcyonAlpha In the UK with an inflation rate hovering around 12%, we just got our wage increase of 4% accompanied by a letter that pretty much said "inflation isn't our fault and we think it's going to drop..." (paraphrased). This from a company that made 29 million profit last year and had enough cash to buy out another company. I feel your pain!
Supposed to be a crisis but all these companies are recording record breaking profits. The pants are well and truly down and they ain't using lube!
Trekked over the rockies years ago (pack it in, pack it out - leave no trace), we made our own boil in the bags by decanting tinned meals/produce into ziploc bags. Fold them squeeze out all the air, seal them & then double bag them (for protection). When warming, wrap the bag in a bit of foil to protect it from direct heat from side of pan and hey presto, meal and drinking water.
One easy way to save money is to take a step back and check if maybe you have G.A.S.: Gear Aquisition Syndrome. The more videos you watch about gear, the more inclined you are to want that gear and the more you lose sight of the fact that the gear you have is usually already better than what you really need to have fun camping.
I suffered from that cr8p in photography where watching people using the latest models of camera and lenses constantly made me feel that my stuff was not as good as it could be. But in reality, it was already ten times better than what I actually needed for my purposes. Once I realised that I stopped buying new stuff and really only upgraded when something broke.
Not just watching videos, even just a wander around outdoor shops can cause a similar issue lol.
Totally agree with Paul on these advice tips. One thing he needed to emphasize is to not BUY gear for conditions you MAY go camp in, but for the conditions you KNOW you're going to camp in. For the "May go" either borrow if you can, or find a place that might rent what you need.
DeWalt make cracking waterproofs for fairly cheap, they have proper gore-text jacket for like £50 and polyurethane over trousers 100% no thrills but I'm a bin man and I stay dry at work
My gear contains some really clever stuff from a budget place like Decathlon ( running gear, down jacket ) 3FUL ( Lanshan 2Pro ) and so on, or high-end buy-once-cry-once gear. But you are not getting better memories, more fun or a more thrilling adventure in much more expensive gear. Just go out. A sleeping bag and an insulating air bed is all you need in a nights like these at the moment. Mom‘s leftovers for dinner and a decent garage beer makes you feel like a king in a million star hotel.
Wild camping or camping in general (on sites) is still the most inexpensive holiday in the UK & if you get good weather in a nice spot, you'll never go back to other forms of holiday.
It can be done cheap (in summer). Sub £400 for gear that will last 10 years.
Get out there.
I go with Vango all day long. They are perfect for our weather in the UK, even in heavy wind. The TBS system is brilliant. Vango, for me, beats most tents twice the cost. Easily.
Just bought my first tent in 25 years, my last one being a one man Terra Nova. The tent I just bought, a Vango Banshee 300 cost me less than the Terra Nova! A first look at it tells me it’s built to last and will do a UK 3 season wild camp any day of the week. In my opinion the cost of living crisis, like many recent so called “emergencies” is entirely manufactured and leading down a very unpleasant future. A future where the freedom’s we enjoy especially wild places will be severely restricted………but that’s a different story.
Awesome Tent, that would be my first choice.
I bought a helm 1 in November for £150 direct from terra nova. I wanted to cut a foil sheet to cover the whole floor so was looking up the measurements online and saw that it is now £250. Absolutely shocked
I’m actually outlawed in go outdoors for my price matching lol😂
Honestly I’ve had some right bargains. Miendle vaccum boots £280- price match. £130 walked out of the shop with more expensive boots at a cheaper price. Brilliant.
Bloody hell that's a cracking price, Where'd you find them?
@@DarkShadowAy go outdoors a few years ago. Thing is the kid in the shop found em cheaper for me. Lol
@@BurtReynoldstash haha result!!
Yeah ok 🤣🤥
I can't afford the train fares. It cost 20% of my weekly budget just to get a train out of London!
My 125cc scooter is the cheapest transport I've ever had and it's actually pretty good, it's no problem to do a 100 mile trip into the wilds. Rough in the winter of course but fine on a nice day.
Once a month I used to meet fellow cyclists at HydePark Corner to do a night ride to Brighton. Starting at midnight. That took me out of London for free
Try Megabus. They also do train travel. So you don't have to sit on a coach for a year 👍
On my second £44 Vango Soul 200 tent,(melted a hole in the door of the last one) Been to Skye, Ireland,Isle of Man,Yorkshire,etc and i always give the tent a scoot of Fabsil before a trip.bone dry, through mega thunderstorms this month.
I agree on the super noodles. FLATBREAD. That's something I always take for mealtime. Takes up no space in the bag, fills you up and tastes great dipped into the super noodles. I'm just back from camping about an hour ago. This video's made me want to go out again already 😂
I bought a sea to summit sleeping mat yesterday. Never thought I would be able to justify one as they are very pricey. The one I got is usually AU$370 full price I got for $200 just by shopping around. It’s amazing the insulation I mean wow big difference in comfort compared to my cheap thin blow up mat over 20 years old
wish there was someone doing price matching here in Germany, everything's turned soo expensive
Not a crisis, poverty is the new normal
Stop voting Tory then, the rest of the UK doesn't. Assuming you're English of course.
You will own nothing and be happy - W.E.F
@@garyboyle695hate to break it to you, the Labour Party are just as corrupt and money hungry, we’re fucked either way 😂
@@garyboyle695 The English majority don't vote Tory either. It's FPTP voting system that's the problem.
@@garyboyle695how is Scotland going? Or wales? Worse than England 😂🤦♀️
I made a stove out of a sweet tin and one of those Cork holder wire things off a bottle of procesco 👍
Great advice Paul, much appreciated, thank you. 👍👍👍
Tesco is selling foam mats for £6 at the moment as an alternative to the concertina style mats. They look pretty good!
Top tip for light weight cheap nutrition...use huel about £1.60 for 400 cals and nutritionally balanced. I take it cycle packing
I incorporate fasting with hiking, fasting has amazing health benefits. Pack a nutrition bar for a emergency.
price match is the best for me. walked out with so many bargains and saved a fortune. one of my best things I've done for food is get tinned..like a curry, partnered with boil in bag rice. for short overnight and not worrying about weight, works a treat for me. love this video as well Paul.
Agree! We took a Tesco canned chilli con carne when we went camping earlier this year. Was hot and spicy with Mr Bens precooked rice thrown in.
Saving money is just as it has always been. The "secret" in all aspects of life is SIMPLIFY. If you don't require lots of fancy gear...then the absurd prices won't be a bother. It is just the same with all other aspects of life.
As for myself, on most trips I use a 2 metre x 3 metre tarp, pitched in a half-pyramid configuration, for shelter. I use an off-brand Chinese knockoff inflatable sleeping pad (about 1/4 the price of the "big" brands). For a sleeping bag, in the warmer months, I use 1 or 2 synthetic sleeping bag liners...sometimes teamed with a bivy cover. In colder temps, I use a (synthetic insulation) bag, 25 degree (F)...that I have had for 25 years. Still works a treat. Other gear in my pack is commonly improvised, rather than purchased from the outdoor robbery stores. I no longer cook on trail, so I need no stove.
Etc., etc., etc. Simplify and improvise - that will do the best for you.
Uni Qlo have some of the best clothing in my opinion for the outdoors. Their Heat tech stuff I use all winter working outside and is a fraction on the price of the leading outdoor companies. Had the same t shirt for 10 years now. Plus use their Dry tech stuff in summer and stops getting wet with sweat. £20 for a top quality t shirt which I use all summer.
when you camp with value gear without any great expectation of performance then the enjoyment is enhanced when it works out well. I have oex gear. Bobcat 1 man tent for £55 on offer
a fathom ev 300 sleeping bag. i also use a Jokel inflatable mattress on a foil sided beach mat which was just a few quid. the mattress slides about a bit on the foil but in a one man tent you dont slide very far! 😀
Decathalon is another great option for getting gear on the cheaper side that gets the job done
If you wanna skimp out on inflatable pad, I use an emergency bivi for underneah the pad to keep a bit of extra heat, packs down small if you can get past the hassel of packing it down, but not as small as how its packed when its new.
well done mate !! clearing up after the I dont give a sh*** croud, so us lot don't have to look at all the horrible stuff they leave behind that we go up there to get away from. just waiting for next irresponsible use of disposable bbq or empty glass bottle fire that'll ruin things for the rest of us. thanks for sharing this, much respect, and best wishes.
I am so glad I have kept my little cheap 4 person tent. It worked in all weathers without leaking. Until a bad storm that hit the UK a few years back, that flooded every camper in a tent out, where I was. Needs water proof spraying. Kept it but was originally going to give it away. Now car camp and tent camp since that day. Love the out doors. On a camping festival at the mo. I sleep so well in the outdoors compared to home. Good tips to save money and get started. Another tip, use what you have, start with small ventures, then build towards buying lighter kit, down the road.
I think most people buy according to their budget.
It's nice to dream of high end equipment, but 99% of us just don't need it and can have a great experience for much, much less 👍
Really great video. I know gear reviews are the way channels like this make money and get the views in but the focus on expensive equipment can feel exclusionary for newcomers. This kind of video dispels that feeling
Good video. It would be good to see a budget decathlon MT500 camp or a Chinese knock of camp video.
Good video Paul. Last year I ordered a Big Agnes Rapide mattress for 140€, it took 5 months to arrive and the last time I looked it's now 190€! Now I'm too scared to use it so I got another Trekology for the summer. For 55€ its still the most comfortable mat for the money. Cheers.
Hi Paul, for my clothing I use the App Vinted here in the uk. Everything sold on there is second hand / pre loved but there are some great bargains to be had. I bought a pair of Brasher walking boots for £38, the seller had only worn them on a holiday to Iceland, I got a pair of The North Face Hedgehog shoes for £28, Berghaus rain jacket for £20 Berghaus puffer jacket for £25
Good advice Paul. I’ve been following yourself and Dan (English Woodsman) for the past 2 years and with the guidance you both provide I’m now Well set up with an Olpro voyager 2 tent ( £ 90, price fluctuated during the winter then dropped), naturehike sleeping bag and uni gear sleeping mat, my most recent purchase was the OEX Heiro stove, again based on the you and Dans reviews. Appreciate you view point and consideration. 🏴🍺🏴🥾🥾
Oex tacana stove is 35 quid at go outdoors at the moment
Great video Paul you’re channel is brilliant telling it like it is for people who could be tempted by expensive gear 👍
Great video! Not watched your videos in a while, the quality has improved loads. Brilliant content, thank you.
Great video Paul thanks for sharing the information. Health and Happiness to you and yours
Second hand shops! Found a Fjallraven Keb eco in my size. Store prices, £450 and up. I paid £5! Yes, £5. Bought DWR to reproof for £20. Bargain.😊
Loving the content as always. Brilliant advice.
Overpriced gear is always the illusion via marketing..
Prioritise according to your typical activities. In my case, clothing, boots, sleeping bag and last tent. I love cheap tents. I have had so many great trips with a cheap eurohike. In my case, I dont tend to walk with the tent very far .
Just bought a Zastrugi 2 man from Planet X for £40. Looks like a Cloud Up 2. Got it for a daughter who wants to go bike packing with me.
I save money by accepting discomfort! ...great video Paul
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I'm glad you raised the comment about quilts being easier to make than bags yet costing more, I've been puzzled by this for a while now. I get there is tech involved that makes them ultra warm and ultra light, but it's just a piece of fabric at the end of the day, that doesn't need cutting to a mummy shape and doesn't need a zip. I'll be giving the method of sleeping with the bag open now that I have a really good mat (the SeaToSummit Comfort plus). I still want to build my own little cookset too as I loved your video that you made about that one.
The pound tanked against the dollar at the end of last year. I paid just over £300 for my UGQ quilt in 2020, not cheap but considering it's made in the US and not China it's understandable, the same quilt now would cost around £450. Take a look at all the American gear from MSR and jetboil. The cost has gone through the roof.
Thanks Paul, for the info
Picked up a deuter exosphere -10 for £75 the other day, shop about and you get a good deal, would never spend over £100 on a bag unless i was going to genuinely cold countries.
Cheers Paul some good tips. I,agree on the Snugpack comment.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome from the marketing departments. They're good at what they do but really no need to spend loads. It's about the smiles not the pounds spent. Thanks for the vid Paul as always. Atb. Mark, (Northumberland)
Great video! I think the point you make about people feeling like they need to buy the highest spec products very true and something I see a lot. It’s probably not helped by the marketing and the constant stream of new products and technologies released each year.
Great video Paul and some really sage advice 😀
For me, there is a difference between actually need....and want it so much, you really need it! 🤣
Hilleberg might keep changing the goal posts, but I'm still saving and I'll bloody well get there in the end! 😉
GoOutdoors do not always honour their price match promise
They come up with a excuse like the shade of grey is darker when it is clearly the or the specifications do not match when they are clearly the same
If u looking for a bombproof sort of budget tent the F10 range by Vango is the way to go theyve added a few new ones to the range!
Excellent sensible review, Paul. The point about using older kit that you have is a good one. The kit is not the goal, it's the means to get outdoors successfully and enjoy yourself. Ta
I thunk with most hobbies it can be easy to keep buying the cool stuff and 30 mins in gooutdoors makes it even easier.🤣. But I have my standard gear now and I don't need owt else apart from the food I take with me. So I only buy the odd thing now that I m know will make the camp easier or comfier
Great info Paul... props for the shoutout to Patrick Dickinson :)
Hello Paul:
From what I have seen of climate in Briton a Tera Nova tent should be suitable for most weather .
But it CAN get quite windy in the autumn !
And rainy !
Air mattresses are a another matter !
I had a mattress for a yr.
It just died 2 days ago !
It broke a seam at 9pm !
I am wondering if You have ever had this problem !
From what you said in this video they can be expensive to replace !
Does 12 months seem average to you ?
Mike
Some good advice there Paul. I trawl the web for price comparing and buy a fair bit of used kit too.
It's a new world these days, where a person now needs to have and spend money to just live like a homeless person.
Good video.
Not many of us are going camping at -6. Most UK people only need gear for camping in summer. Waste of money to buy anything else?
Most places do Klarna or clearpay, which spreads the cost of more expensive items
Paul, great vid as usual. USA Camper here, I'd like to ask if you have any experience on the tent brand Alpkit & their tents - I'm interested in the Ordos 2, but not many videos on them. Being a UK Brand thought maybe you may have a line on the brand, etc. TIA! 😊
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Hi there, I've belatedly seen your comment, so here is a wee comparison video from Paul - I think this may be the Alpkit tent you refer to. It's not a review,, but he has some positive things to say about if! Good luck, Nigel, Scotland
I’ve had most of my gear for around 15 years. Just top up consumables
Great video, especially for someone like me, who is just getting into it and putting together kit, so hopefully be able to get out over the summer
I'd recommend the eurohike shadow 250 nightfall, go outdoors have it for £40 members price, (membership cost £5 for the year) well happy with my purchase
As some who is new to wild camping it is bit of a investment to get started. Great video thank you
Rab have just launched a range of reasonably priced sleeping mats too. I bought one myself for £100. 5.5 r rating and packs down pretty small.
Also decathlon isn’t bad i have the mt900 1 person tent, and it has served me well, high winds ands horrible rain. Bout 170£
I recently bought the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2. It cost me £140 but it is worth every penny.
Great video
I'm a military surplus store man. Quality kit for cheaps.
You forgot to mention charity shops Paul, bargain prices, and the ultimate in recycling, 😊
Good point - and on the other side of things, I’ve donated some decent, well cared for camping stuff to charity shops hoping someone will get themselves some nice little holidays out of the stuff.
I bought a red M and S lightweight insulated jacket from a charity shop for £5. I realised when I got home it was made of down. I wouldn't trust it for wearing outside with a rucksack on, but it is absolutely perfect as a camp /summit jacket.
I put together a cook kit. Any thoughts on where I can get a net bag? Can’t find them anywhere!
Brilliant video, informative, bargain, or expensive.. man i just love gear 🤣
Ex forces can use the defence discount service card to get anything from 10-15% off, even if some stores have stuff on sales. Saved a small fortune over the years. Not all stores have signed up to it, best to ask if they accept it first.
Yes - Defence Discount Card has saved me lots - almost makes it worth the 20 years I spent in the military!
@@phil.clarke Nice one!
WTH is going on with Snugpak? A Scorpion 3 is now $600.00 USD? I paid half of that a few years ago?
I like to hit the out of high season sales. Grab something that cost £50 more earlier in the year.
Starlite 1 £350 at Terra Nova and a few other places at mo. Probably discontinued, but a bargain!
All my gear is Berghaus never had a problem keep all mega expensive gear 😊
I love my Atom Packs Mo40 Custom. The only bespoke piece of gear that I use. I have an unboxing on my channel of it.
Some of my best kit is army surplus
Buy a cheap tent, cheap stove, cheap pot, and cheap back pack. A good comfy pad with warm quilt/bag and pillow are worth every penny. I can sleep in any tent aslong as I've got my sleep system. I'd rather spend £900 on a sleep system and £100 on a tent than the other way around.
Most quilts are supplied by US companys and with the pound tanking asgainst the doller the costs have gone up. Take a look at MSR, and Jetboil prices. My micromo has nearly doubled in price in the last 12 months, I dont care how good a jetboil is, its not £170 good.
Does anyone know what the mesh is inside the alcohol stove?
Try cold soaking for food save $$ and weight
Paul, would you like to try out some army rations and see what you think?
The increase is everywhere # it sucks
naturehike ! would be great to do some reviews.
Great video back to your best great tips, unbiased advice. Nice one 👍 😀
Is that Clachtoll at the end?
Is the Decathlon Jacket the -5 or -10 please?
Why will you not review the price friendly tents from Robens? :)
Try the Decathlon Ultralight gear!
Seems like he is sponsored by Valley + Peak so doubt it.
Picked up 900ml titanium cup from planet x for £12.99
My best cost of living (in a tent) advice. Stay at home and watch your videos 😀
It’s the Hilleberg Sulu
Patrick Dickinson said so
Hi Paul, great channel, looking at getting a sleeping bag, would prefer down bag that is compact and preferably at least 2 season, I won't be doing much winter camping etc, what would you recommend, absolute minefield out there
Rab solar eco range. I use the 2 it lasts me from May till September. 👍 packs small. Synthetic bag cheap enough too.
Brilliant, thanks Paul.
Prices of camping meals are getting ridiculous. Not buying any more
Nice one on the Liam Brown shout mate, you two are the main outdoors..y youtubers I'm subbed to