I love how they both ended up as Liars with a clear agenda to eat Jack, it's a good moral lesson about how it's better to look at the motive of people rather than the cold logic of an old riddle.
Also to better pay attention to even smallest details. The sign was there when they both explained the rules correctly which already exposed their lie.
+theeshyguy1 Yes. Because if they were as they said, One truth-teller and one liar, the liar can never admit to it. That would be telling the truth. The only way they could BOTH make that statement is if they were both lying.
The irony is that Jack is smart enough to create a question where he knows the answer both give him will be a lie because they both agree, but he didn't think about it enough to realize that them both agreeing on the premise of one of them being a liar was equally suspect.
True, but Jack must have thought that those rules only applied to the question. Just like anybody else -- you wouldn't figure that out until taking the risk because everyone said they are the magic worm.
Every time this riddle format comes up in fiction, people misunderstand the purpose. Jack isn't trying to figure out which one tells the truth and which one lies, he's trying to figure out which one is the magic worm when he knows one of them is a liar. In the classic riddle, the traveler doesn't need to know which brother lies, he needs to know which path to take. So everyone saying you should just ask an obvious or observatioonal question, like "what's 2+2" is missing the point entirely. The person in the riddle gets *one* question. Knowing which one is the liar doesn't help you find the right path or the magic worm, because you don't get to follow it up with any more questions so you don't know what the truth teller or liar would say. So you ask what the other person would say. Take the path riddle. Fork in the road, west or east, and two brothers, one liar, one truthful, to ask one question. Let's say west is the correct path. If you ask Liar what his brother would say, he would lie. Truther would tell you west, because that's the correct path, so Liar would lie and say, "My brother would say go east!" If you ask Truther what his brother would say, he would tell the truth. Liar would tell you east, because that's the wrong path, so Truther would tell the truth and say, "My brother would say go east!" Now you know that the liar would tell you east, and the opposite of what the truther would tell you is east, so that proves west is the correct path. If you just asked them, "What's 2+2?" One would say "4!" and one would say "38!", so you would know which one speaks truth and which one tells lies. But you just blew your only question, so you can't use this new information to find the correct path.
Otis Murdoch So that is why Jack asked both of them at the same time, “If you where you’re bother, who would say is the magic worm.” My brain hurts now.
Kill both and pick a path. If it ends up being wrong pull a u turn and pick the other one, cuz I wouldn’t sit there for 5 hours trying to come up with some bullshit question when I just want the correct path
Blessed to have seen this as a young man. Easily one of the most effective primers for formal logic / analytic philosophy I've ever encountered in popular media.
First time i saw this i wasnt shocked at Jack's intelligence. I was shocked that he was actually willing to explain it in such detail. The amount of dialogue in the explanation was more than the amount of dialogue he had in many episodes
Can we add intelligence to this man's abilities list? Actually, looking back on all of the opportunities he's had to go back and kill Aku that he gave up to save people in this timeline he destroyed anyway, let's not.
He could be helping people in this time line because he's aware he might fail to alter time. Or he believes in multiverse theory and thinks this time line may still exist outside of his own corrected one.
Jack Frost How good your childhood was isn't based on what cartoon you watched lol. You could have watched this cartoon yet still have had a shit childhood.
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He really did have to resort to this questioning. They asked him which was the magic worm, not which was the truth teller or liar. Asking any other question could help him figure out the liar but not which one was the magic worm.
Plus even even if you wanted to know who the liar is could be hard. Imagine asking what is 2+2? A d one says 110 and the other says 100? One of those is actually correct if they decided to answer in base 2.
@@RequiemPoete it just mean had both of them to lie (there are no magic worm but who would said he is..)so the answer is the one was not answer.. get it...
Worms: What is your name? Jack: I am Jack. Worms: What is your quest? Jack: To go back to my own time and defeat Aku. Worms: What is the average velocity of a swallow. Jack: What do you mean? The African or European Swallow? Worms: W-We don't know- (die)
What Jack meant to say was, in the simplest explanation I can give, is that regardless of whoever answers it- it will always be a LIE. And thus Jack needs to choose the opposite of which ever worm answers. So how'd he do it? Jack said, "If you asked the other worm which of you is magical, what would he say?" So let's tag each worm as LIE and TRUTH. -----SPEAKING TO TRUTH---- If you asked TRUTH on what his brother would say, he would tell Jack LIE's answer which is: TRUTH: "He's the magic worm" TRUTH answered honestly. But by context of the answer, it is a false because it would come from the other worm that is LIE. -----SPEAKING TO LIE---- On the other hand, if you asked LIE on what his brother would say then he'd simply be dishonest. LIE: "I'm the magic worm" This is also false, because he can't let that be the answer. That's why Jack said "it does not matter" when the worms asked to which one Jack was speaking to. Because he knew that BOTH would yield a lie and therefore whoever answers him- he'd simply take the opposite of that. HONEST: He's magic Jack: Then it's you. ----------------------------------- LIAR: I'm magic Jack: Then it's the other one. If either worm answered these: HONEST: He's not magic Or LIAR: I'm not magic Then both contradicted themselves. HONEST would've been lying because he said what LIAR wouldn't say and vice versa. But we are in the state of either telling the truth or lie as ABSOLUTE. So yeah, that's it.
"If you were your brother, which path would he say is the correct path?" The logic REALLY DOES MAKE SENSE! For example: if the correct path is on the right: 1) The lying brother would state the incorrect path, since he knows that his truthful brother would say the correct path. If the correct path is on the right, then the liar say "MY BROTHER WOULD PICK THE LEFT!" 2) The truthful brother, who knows that his lying brother would state the incorrect path, would TRUTHFULLY say that the lying brother would say the incorrect path. Again, if the correct path is on the right, then the truthful guy would lay "MY BROTHER WOULD PICK THE LEFT!" In other words, in a situation like this, both brothers should end up saying THE EXACT SAME ANSWER, and what the decision maker should do is PICK THE OPPOSITE PATH.
Dal 'Gurak Right. The problem is that BOTH of them are lying, because there's no way that both characters can be correct about those original statements. If "one of us tells only lies" is from the lying creature, then that means both characters have the ability to lie, which means "one of us tells only truths" is a false statement. If "one of us tells only truths" is a lie, then both characters might be telling the truth, but that would be impossible since the statement "one of us tells only lies," if true, contradicts that possibility. The only possibility is that both characters are lying.
Yeah, true. It's flawless written but spoken, you could redefine "1" as the more general "one". Haha. And yeah, dragons TOTALLY get wet. I do it all the time.
+Dal'Gurak your actually wrong. The question was what would the brother say. It causes the truth teller to say the lie, and the liar to say his own. However the best option if this is a true rule would be to look at the one that explained the rules, as he is the one that tells the truth. That is if we consider the rules to be true, which is possible but very unlikely. If they are not then this shit is pointless and wack.
Deadpool Ghidorah climbed out of our unflat screen TVs to deliver us a brain-twister that plagues the deepest recesses of our critical-thinking faculties to this very day.
I love how long he takes just thinking while dramatic music and editing happens. It's pretty great, really gets you into the 'oh jeez this riddle' mindset.
I love how all three parties know that it's going to end in a fight, but they play the game anyway because the worms want a justification and Jack doesn't want to fight.
In basic summarry: The answer to the Riddle is not to ask which one is telling the truth...but to get one of the serpents to spell out the liar's answer. Because both lie no matter what you tell them, but the truth teller is still obligated to say it. So if you ask it what the other would say, you basically do the opposite.
To those that still don't understand the answer, this is a very old fork in the road riddle. the riddle goes like this, you reach a fork in the road, one path will lead to your destination and the other leads to your doom. Each path will guarded by a person, one will only speak lies and the other only truth, and you may ask one question. Jack gave the right answer here, what would the OTHER brother say the right path is? Now, let's say the right path is on the left. If you ask the question to the liar, he will say the right path is on the right, because truth-er will tell you it's the left and the liar will lie. If you ask this to the truth-er, he will tell you the right path is on the right, because the liar will lie about the correct path. So it doesn't matter who you ask the question to, because both will give you the wrong path, and so you pick the opposite path- as Jack did. Hope this helps.
The example you've given is different from the riddle presented in this episode. The difference here is that the worms are the ones telling him that one of them tells the truth and the other lies, whereas in your example, you (some observer) are telling us those things.
Hey, everybody analyzing Jack's answer, I got a newsflash for you: Jack's answer is correct, if we assume the worms are being 100% truthful up until the riddle begins. But, if you actually watched the episode, you'd know that they are both lying shit bags (which is kind of obvious); Jack couldn't have properly chosen which one is the magic worm, because there is no magic worm. This episode illustrates Jack's occasional naivety, willingness to trust others and desperation to get back to the past. Elements that I think will be flipped on their head via a time skip in the upcoming final season.
Karl Benito Well, I mean, yes and no. You're assuming that they will answer you with numbers; like one will give the correct answer, 4, and the other some random value, like 193. However, there is no reason to believe that they would answer a math problem with a standard solution. Quoting you exactly: "What is 2+2?" - You might get answers like: "The sum of each number.", or "A simple math problem anyone could solve." Now, technically, one of these answers is true (the former) and the second technically false (not everyone knows math). But, really, its not sufficient, because the standard degree of math knowledge held by both the people being asked is unknown. So, given this, your questions are narrowed to information that each person being asked must know; i.e. who the magic worm is, who the liar is, etc. The riddle itself is a lesson in how what you might consider a simple, objective question as relative, and, therefore, not a sufficient way to solve what at first might seem to be a binary system. TL;DR - Basically, the worms can give ambiguous answers, making objective questions like math insufficient to find out who the liar is.
If you guys actually watched the episode the point of the riddle is not find out which is a liar but which one is magic (They're both liars and eat him) so shut it.
+Godzilla Yeah, but that's the joke behind the riddle. One of them said, "One of us tells only lies," Following "But the other tells only truths," meaning that they HAD to both be liars or give away the answer from the get go.
Man I miss shows like this so much, Samurai Jack, Courage the Cowardly dog they were by far my most favorite to watch. Favorite episode has to be the one with the Haunted House that one was so freaky!
+Daggeron2121 However the puzzle doesn't specify whether the liar or the truth-teller is the magic one. The point of Jack's question was not to discern the liar, it was to discern the magic worm. Of course in the end it didn't matter.
I like how jack has this happy look on him at the end while the viewers and the worms are getting a migraine trying to wrap there head around the answer
That doesn't work because both would say they are the real magic worm. Even if the liar isnt the real worm it would still answer as if it was. So now you are stuck with no more questions and now have to randomly guess.
Jack: So when does the magic begin! 8D*Turns and sees he's inside the worms stomache along with a group of strangers*Jack: ...There is no magic, is there? 8C
Noise Marine Unless the liar is the one who says "one of us tells only truths". They could both be lying and the other worm doesn't tell 'only' truths but tells truths AND lies while his brother tells only lies. That's how you end up in the belly of a worm only to realize there was never any magic to begin with. The worm that claimed one of them tells only truths was also the worm to reply "of course" when Jack asked them if they understood his logic. It was also the same worm that said "You must decide which is the real magic worm". The whole thing was a setup.
The best conclusion. "One tell the truth. The other tell the lies." This may be straightforward line but come to think of it. If one of them gonna tell the lie then it'll be 2 separated way. 1st : if "one tell the truths" is a lie. Then the worm who say "one tell the lies" is a liar and so both will be conflict by themselves so they both are liars. 2nd : if "one tell the truths" is a truth. It can mean that the worm who said "one tell the lies" is a lie so they will mean there's no liar or both of them are liars. It can't be no liar because it'll conflict the sentence "one tell the truths" so this mean both of them are liars 1st and 2nd conclusion mean both are liars and you can just ask which one is magic worm. The both answer will be lies and you will know exactly which one is magic worm.
I swear this almost made me bust a gut from laughing so hard at how easy jack made it seem with the explaination. This also reminds me of Joey and yugi’s duel against the paradox brothers
It's a pretty famous old riddle. Both Samurai Jack and Yugi-Oh played homage to it. The actual riddle is about someone traveling and finding two brothers, one who tells lies and the other the truth, but only having one question to ask to determine a safe path. And yes, it goes exactly like this.
“If you were the truth telling worm, then what you’ve said would be a lie because you will answer truthfully what to your lying brother would say. Therefore, I can safely say the answer would be opposite of what you say. On the other other hand, if you were the lying worm, then you will tell me what your truth telling brother would say, but it would be a lie. Therefore, the answer will also be the opposite of what you say.”
That's because it's written in a deliberately obtuse way. The whole of Jack's explanation can be summed up much more simply: The truth teller will say the liar will lie. The liar will say the truth teller will lie. Therefore, the given answer will always be a lie.
@i hate anime even though I respect your opinion and don't know if you speak English or not. Can you use your words if your gonna put Deadpool on blast. You understand that the violence of Deadpool has been apart of his character since he was introduced.
For those who still can't get the explanation of how jack knew the answer from two lies: Basically "the truth worm" would answer jacks question truthfully... If he was his brother, he'd say "he is the magic worm" Because his brother would lie and tell you the wrong one (so he answered with a truth) However the "lie worm" would answer jacks question with a lie He knows that his brother is the "magic worm". but he can only lie and say "I'm the magic worm" (he answered with a lie) To make it clear the liar would only tell the lie (to keep jack away from the magic worm) however the truth would tell the truth (knowing that the lie is the truth to the question)
My favorite version of this riddle is from Order of the Stick. She shoots one in the foot, and asks: "Did that hurt?" "Oh gods! No it doesn't hurt at all!" They were happy to answer both that, AND a second question. 😆 What made it even funnier was that the _second_ time she encountered the pair, the truth-telling one immediately started screaming which direction she should go, while the lying one desperately covered its own mouth (he was the one she shot last time).
Tl;dr Basically with that one question, both worms will always point to the same worm. The truth-worm will lie and say it isn't him, the lie worm will _still_ lie and say it is himself.
no because your not trying to find out who is lieing in this your trying to find out who is the magic worm the lier saying you have 3 fingers up shows he lies but does not show who is the magic worm
I remember as a kid that this scene was really tense, watching it as an adult now I can see how the tension was portrayed with multiple cuts and the "tick tock" music in the background. cool stuff.
Spoiler: the scene continues... With Jack allowing the "magic" worm to swallow him in order to grant his wish. However, the worms aren't magical, whole thing is just a trick to get people to let the worms eat them.
Samurai Jack’s mind isn’t so easily fooled...he looks at things not only and every single angle and/or the big picture, but he’s the type of person that’ll look at something different and compare it to the task at hand. You don’t see that in a lot of people. I know that it is very safe to say that Jack is almost impossible to fool.
truth worm will give the wrong answer because he has to say what the lying worm would say - truth worm will give the wrong answer lying worm will lie about what the truth worm would say - lying worm will give the wrong answer.
I keep seeing "they're both lying", but here's a couple points to keep in mind: The riddle is executed properly *if* either of them are allowed to talk regularly, until the riddle is provided and then only allowed to lie or tell the truth. Typically, this riddle is given by a third party, such as a signpost between two guards or doors acting as the guards. Since no third party is present, they act like one until they give the riddle... Or, alternatively, the riddle was not executed properly *if* an individual is only ever allowed to tell truths or lies. The script uses "another" or "the other", when it should use "and one" at that section; they're both fulfilling their roles at that point, with the liar lying by referring to his brother ("one of us tells only lies", but talking about his brother) and the trigger teller truthfully referring to himself ("and one of us tells only truths", and talking about himself). Or, lastly, they're idiots and didn't realize their phrasing can create a paradox where the liar and truth teller told a lie. They also both said "only one", referring to the single question Jack can ask, and that also causes said contradiction to the rules.
In fact he did not know which one is lying but by methods of deduction his answers to which one is lying is always correct. because if one is truthful and the other one is lying and we don't know which one is which each answer is correct if it was me, I would have pointed towards their body emphasizing on the paradoxical nature of the question.
I like that Jack was smart enough to realize which one is which, but didn't take into the idea that a giant snake monster didn't have any knowledge of magic
Okay… A) I think they also did that same logic thing in the Powerpuff Girls episode, "Him Diddle Riddle". And B) If you think THIS is something, you should check out what kind of logic Jack used in "Jack versus Aku".
+wolfguy23 I was thinking the same thing! When HIM asked the girls which Ms.Keane was the real Ms.Keane he used the same logic and some of the same wording
The logic he used in Jack vs Aku was cyclical logic which gets redundant fast (the whole I knew You knew that I knew thing). Going any further beyond those three steps is pointless and is just saying the same thing over again, kind of like using a quintuple negative.
Remember that time Jack outsmarted the Deadpool Dragon?
LittleBigB me neither
Nope
Doesn't ring a bell
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Well they were both lying, so no
I love how they both ended up as Liars with a clear agenda to eat Jack, it's a good moral lesson about how it's better to look at the motive of people rather than the cold logic of an old riddle.
he has his sword right?
probably how he got out
Also to better pay attention to even smallest details. The sign was there when they both explained the rules correctly which already exposed their lie.
It's not like I would imagine they were doing anything else.
when the fuck will u ever be hit by that logic
I find this 3 Story Episode to be Quite confusing but had some good moments
When someone says "I'm about to pull a big brain move"
It doesn't come close to this
Go bang Erza already, geez.
Cue in 500 replies saying "omg you're everywhere" and 4.5k likes
@@melgeezy3325 yea what's taking so long
@@reyesreyes7319 gotta ask the guy above us. Either he's the big gay or giving Erza the worst case of blue balls ever. For a woman at least.
Hey i see you in every Video
That was the time when Jack pulled a 9000 iQ move on the worms
Yeah...seemed 9000 IQ till you remember the set up
too bad they ate him
Wyrms*
"One of us tells only lies"
"But the other tells only truths"
So, they're both liars then?
+theeshyguy1 Yes. Because if they were as they said, One truth-teller and one liar, the liar can never admit to it. That would be telling the truth. The only way they could BOTH make that statement is if they were both lying.
Which is why Jack's answer doesn't work, and they eat him. (spoilers)
nice yugioh reference :)
***** Thanks a lot.
i thought that sounded familiar
The irony is that Jack is smart enough to create a question where he knows the answer both give him will be a lie because they both agree, but he didn't think about it enough to realize that them both agreeing on the premise of one of them being a liar was equally suspect.
True, but Jack must have thought that those rules only applied to the question. Just like anybody else -- you wouldn't figure that out until taking the risk because everyone said they are the magic worm.
That's not stupidity,it's innocence. It's being naive and trusting to a fault.
That's kinda sus
Yeah, Yugi reached the same conclusion, They're both liars
Huh they both are liars
Every time this riddle format comes up in fiction, people misunderstand the purpose. Jack isn't trying to figure out which one tells the truth and which one lies, he's trying to figure out which one is the magic worm when he knows one of them is a liar. In the classic riddle, the traveler doesn't need to know which brother lies, he needs to know which path to take. So everyone saying you should just ask an obvious or observatioonal question, like "what's 2+2" is missing the point entirely. The person in the riddle gets *one* question. Knowing which one is the liar doesn't help you find the right path or the magic worm, because you don't get to follow it up with any more questions so you don't know what the truth teller or liar would say.
So you ask what the other person would say.
Take the path riddle. Fork in the road, west or east, and two brothers, one liar, one truthful, to ask one question. Let's say west is the correct path.
If you ask Liar what his brother would say, he would lie. Truther would tell you west, because that's the correct path, so Liar would lie and say, "My brother would say go east!"
If you ask Truther what his brother would say, he would tell the truth. Liar would tell you east, because that's the wrong path, so Truther would tell the truth and say, "My brother would say go east!"
Now you know that the liar would tell you east, and the opposite of what the truther would tell you is east, so that proves west is the correct path. If you just asked them, "What's 2+2?" One would say "4!" and one would say "38!", so you would know which one speaks truth and which one tells lies. But you just blew your only question, so you can't use this new information to find the correct path.
I commend you sir or madam, a lot of this people thinks it's so simple.
Holy shit, my brain hurts.
Otis Murdoch So that is why Jack asked both of them at the same time, “If you where you’re bother, who would say is the magic worm.” My brain hurts now.
Your comment is very underappreciated
Kill both and pick a path. If it ends up being wrong pull a u turn and pick the other one, cuz I wouldn’t sit there for 5 hours trying to come up with some bullshit question when I just want the correct path
Blessed to have seen this as a young man. Easily one of the most effective primers for formal logic / analytic philosophy I've ever encountered in popular media.
That's all great, but I can't get past your user name bro.
Remember when media wasn't totally stupid
@@assordante2205 What’s wrong with it?
this is a joke right
@@smhsophie I hope so...
First time i saw this i wasnt shocked at Jack's intelligence. I was shocked that he was actually willing to explain it in such detail. The amount of dialogue in the explanation was more than the amount of dialogue he had in many episodes
More like the rest of the season lol.
They sped up his dialogue bruh
There are some episodes where he doesn't talk at all😆
which is ironic cause the show's creator dislikes using so much dialogue
@@gamerstheater1187 proven in Primal. lol
Even if jack was wrong, he can still effortlessly murder these two
he was playing nice
he also got a super upgrade of his sword lol
That might mean losing the portal.
@@RequiemPoete there was no portal lol
But he was wrong lol
Can we add intelligence to this man's abilities list?
Actually, looking back on all of the opportunities he's had to go back and kill Aku that he gave up to save people in this timeline he destroyed anyway, let's not.
nah, he's not lacking in intelligence.
He's just chivalrous to a fault.
He could be helping people in this time line because he's aware he might fail to alter time. Or he believes in multiverse theory and thinks this time line may still exist outside of his own corrected one.
@@feathero3 Then he should've offed Aku before leaving, shouldn't he?
@@PrestonK_Productions Ashi vanishing may suggest this timeline was erased
Not really, in this episode the worms eat him anyway
I thought about this for like 8 minutes until I fully understood, Jack is a genius
If you've grown up watching Samurai Jack, then you probably had a golden childhood
I grew up watching and was repeatedly beaten and abused
Jack Frost How good your childhood was isn't based on what cartoon you watched lol. You could have watched this cartoon yet still have had a shit childhood.
step 1: abuse little Jimmy in every single way imaginable.
step 2: make him watch samurai jack.
step 3: childhood fixed.
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For it is not only one, but three inovators to point out that this comment here is, in fact, not literal.
Thank you, heroes of this Earth.
@@EpicBaconCheeseburger I've got almost 60 likes on my comment meaning that they have all understood the positive meaning behind my statement, how unfortunate though the first 3 people didn't
He really did have to resort to this questioning. They asked him which was the magic worm, not which was the truth teller or liar. Asking any other question could help him figure out the liar but not which one was the magic worm.
Plus even even if you wanted to know who the liar is could be hard. Imagine asking what is 2+2? A d one says 110 and the other says 100? One of those is actually correct if they decided to answer in base 2.
@@RequiemPoete lmao stop, we are not hear to learn base here
@@RequiemPoete OH LOL NICE!!! HAHAHAHA but then again '2' implies that we're not doing base 2...
@@RequiemPoete it just mean had both of them to lie (there are no magic worm but who would said he is..)so the answer is the one was not answer.. get it...
@@RequiemPoete what do you mean by base 2?
Worms: What is your name?
Jack: I am Jack.
Worms: What is your quest?
Jack: To go back to my own time and defeat Aku.
Worms: What is the average velocity of a swallow.
Jack: What do you mean? The African or European Swallow?
Worms: W-We don't know- (die)
ha ha ha ha. Holy Grail, Right?
Fearnoid
Was worried no one would get that. XD
Hahaha! Guess not.
OMG that was funny!!!
Goddammit with the Monty Python references 😆
Ten seconds later: "When does the magic start? ...There is no magic, is there?"
I love that part
best part is always the self-satisfied grin at the end. he is proud of himself. king
What Jack meant to say was, in the simplest explanation I can give, is that regardless of whoever answers it- it will always be a LIE. And thus Jack needs to choose the opposite of which ever worm answers.
So how'd he do it?
Jack said, "If you asked the other worm which of you is magical, what would he say?"
So let's tag each worm as LIE and TRUTH.
-----SPEAKING TO TRUTH----
If you asked TRUTH on what his brother would say, he would tell Jack LIE's answer which is:
TRUTH: "He's the magic worm"
TRUTH answered honestly. But by context of the answer, it is a false because it would come from the other worm that is LIE.
-----SPEAKING TO LIE----
On the other hand, if you asked LIE on what his brother would say then he'd simply be dishonest.
LIE: "I'm the magic worm"
This is also false, because he can't let that be the answer.
That's why Jack said "it does not matter" when the worms asked to which one Jack was speaking to. Because he knew that BOTH would yield a lie and therefore whoever answers him- he'd simply take the opposite of that.
HONEST: He's magic
Jack: Then it's you.
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LIAR: I'm magic
Jack: Then it's the other one.
If either worm answered these:
HONEST: He's not magic
Or
LIAR: I'm not magic
Then both contradicted themselves. HONEST would've been lying because he said what LIAR wouldn't say and vice versa. But we are in the state of either telling the truth or lie as ABSOLUTE.
So yeah, that's it.
I Didn't undrestand but that's propply because im stupid
Nice explanation. Finally got it.
Oh I get it. Cuz they switched roles, they would always be wrong. Clever
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It makes sense
"If you were your brother, which path would he say is the correct path?" The logic REALLY DOES MAKE SENSE!
For example: if the correct path is on the right:
1) The lying brother would state the incorrect path, since he knows that his truthful brother would say the correct path. If the correct path is on the right, then the liar say "MY BROTHER WOULD PICK THE LEFT!"
2) The truthful brother, who knows that his lying brother would state the incorrect path, would TRUTHFULLY say that the lying brother would say the incorrect path. Again, if the correct path is on the right, then the truthful guy would lay "MY BROTHER WOULD PICK THE LEFT!"
In other words, in a situation like this, both brothers should end up saying THE EXACT SAME ANSWER, and what the decision maker should do is PICK THE OPPOSITE PATH.
Dal 'Gurak Right. The problem is that BOTH of them are lying, because there's no way that both characters can be correct about those original statements.
If "one of us tells only lies" is from the lying creature, then that means both characters have the ability to lie, which means "one of us tells only truths" is a false statement.
If "one of us tells only truths" is a lie, then both characters might be telling the truth, but that would be impossible since the statement "one of us tells only lies," if true, contradicts that possibility.
The only possibility is that both characters are lying.
You only have to ask them: Does 1 always equal 1?
There's really no way to waffle that. It's either yes or no and any waffling is lying.
Dal 'Gurak I'm curious to see the dragons' mumbo-jumbo on this...BRING IT!!!
Yeah, true. It's flawless written but spoken, you could redefine "1" as the more general "one". Haha.
And yeah, dragons TOTALLY get wet. I do it all the time.
+Dal'Gurak your actually wrong. The question was what would the brother say. It causes the truth teller to say the lie, and the liar to say his own. However the best option if this is a true rule would be to look at the one that explained the rules, as he is the one that tells the truth.
That is if we consider the rules to be true, which is possible but very unlikely. If they are not then this shit is pointless and wack.
A neat hint in this situation is that they're conjoined, and therefore technically the same worm. They're "both" liars.
Therapist: Deadpool Ghidorah isn't real, he can't hurt you.
Deadpool Ghidorah:
Finally someone noticed
Ghidopool
@@PikoroxFraxx well they both can grow their heads back
Deadpool Ghidorah climbed out of our unflat screen TVs to deliver us a brain-twister that plagues the deepest recesses of our critical-thinking faculties to this very day.
But he only has two heads, not three.
I love how long he takes just thinking while dramatic music and editing happens. It's pretty great, really gets you into the 'oh jeez this riddle' mindset.
10 minutes trying to understand the logic behind his question, finally managed... did I just gained +5 intelligence?
It was pretty low to begin with
You actually somehow lost intelligence
"Did i just gained"
Literally same I even had to slow down what jack said
it just mean had both of them to lie so the answer is the one was not answer.. get it...
Well, you could't figure out simple grammar. So I wager you lost 5 intelligence.
I love how all three parties know that it's going to end in a fight, but they play the game anyway because the worms want a justification and Jack doesn't want to fight.
In basic summarry:
The answer to the Riddle is not to ask which one is telling the truth...but to get one of the serpents to spell out the liar's answer. Because both lie no matter what you tell them, but the truth teller is still obligated to say it. So if you ask it what the other would say, you basically do the opposite.
Red- Havic *takes a moment (30 minutes to an hour) to think*
......
Oooooh.... :O
Another lie the Lie worm has created was he said "Of course!" because he doesn't understand the explanation, I guess.
Nah, it could very well be true. If even I can understand it, how couldn't they?
@@innerguardianXIII they don't seem very bright
The lying worm can still be the magic worm
He's not the only one.
How do we know it's not in the context of the riddle only?
I understand the logic... but it still makes my head hurt a little
"TOO LATE!"after Jack tries to change his favourite colour is one of my favourite lines.
Jotaro: "Do you... *understand?"*
yes yes yes oh my god
To those that still don't understand the answer, this is a very old fork in the road riddle. the riddle goes like this, you reach a fork in the road, one path will lead to your destination and the other leads to your doom. Each path will guarded by a person, one will only speak lies and the other only truth, and you may ask one question. Jack gave the right answer here, what would the OTHER brother say the right path is? Now, let's say the right path is on the left. If you ask the question to the liar, he will say the right path is on the right, because truth-er will tell you it's the left and the liar will lie. If you ask this to the truth-er, he will tell you the right path is on the right, because the liar will lie about the correct path. So it doesn't matter who you ask the question to, because both will give you the wrong path, and so you pick the opposite path- as Jack did. Hope this helps.
WhiteNight630 In the end, I just got one answer out of all that. Just say "Fuck it" and just keep walking straight.
wasnt this riddle done in yugioh too?
yep.
The example you've given is different from the riddle presented in this episode. The difference here is that the worms are the ones telling him that one of them tells the truth and the other lies, whereas in your example, you (some observer) are telling us those things.
Not even close
It's not Deadpool you goddamn nerds.
No shit
jesus... like nobody noticed it.....
Dead pool dump in toilet came alive
Your mom is Deadpool
I wish my mom was Deadpool
This just unlocked an ancient childhood memory
Hey, everybody analyzing Jack's answer, I got a newsflash for you:
Jack's answer is correct, if we assume the worms are being 100% truthful up until the riddle begins.
But, if you actually watched the episode, you'd know that they are both lying shit bags (which is kind of obvious); Jack couldn't have properly chosen which one is the magic worm, because there is no magic worm.
This episode illustrates Jack's occasional naivety, willingness to trust others and desperation to get back to the past.
Elements that I think will be flipped on their head via a time skip in the upcoming final season.
JSavacado can't you just ask what 2+2 is?
Karl Benito Well, I mean, yes and no.
You're assuming that they will answer you with numbers; like one will give the correct answer, 4, and the other some random value, like 193.
However, there is no reason to believe that they would answer a math problem with a standard solution.
Quoting you exactly: "What is 2+2?" - You might get answers like: "The sum of each number.", or "A simple math problem anyone could solve." Now, technically, one of these answers is true (the former) and the second technically false (not everyone knows math). But, really, its not sufficient, because the standard degree of math knowledge held by both the people being asked is unknown.
So, given this, your questions are narrowed to information that each person being asked must know; i.e. who the magic worm is, who the liar is, etc. The riddle itself is a lesson in how what you might consider a simple, objective question as relative, and, therefore, not a sufficient way to solve what at first might seem to be a binary system.
TL;DR - Basically, the worms can give ambiguous answers, making objective questions like math insufficient to find out who the liar is.
JSavacado No shit dude......I miss him so mutch!!!!!But happy ending,Finaly so,so happy
It's like the two gate guards in Labyrinth. They're both liars
Why would you assume that? There's no reason at all to assume that.
If you guys actually watched the episode the point of the riddle is not find out which is a liar but which one is magic (They're both liars and eat him) so shut it.
+Godzilla Yeah, but that's the joke behind the riddle. One of them said, "One of us tells only lies," Following "But the other tells only truths," meaning that they HAD to both be liars or give away the answer from the get go.
I think this is a paradox, thats why they eat him
+Paradox wasnt this riddle done in yugioh too?
Godzilla Whatever you say, Ruler of all Kaiju.
guts Bel good point, I wonder what would have made the 3rd appear. maybe understanding these 2 were liars.
that smile at the end😊
When you come back home with an A+ on your exam.
Haha!
So genuine! You hardly see that in the series.
Man I miss shows like this so much, Samurai Jack, Courage the Cowardly dog they were by far my most favorite to watch. Favorite episode has to be the one with the Haunted House that one was so freaky!
They showed Samurai Jack in 8 pm time slot. I think if I remember correctly.
I mean, you can still watch it. It’s not like it’s gone forever as it is readily available on DVD, BluRay, digital downloads and Streaming.
my question is: "What's 1 plus 1?"
That should clear it up pretty quick.
+John Walker II I had the same thought or something like what color is my hair
+Daggeron2121 However the puzzle doesn't specify whether the liar or the truth-teller is the magic one. The point of Jack's question was not to discern the liar, it was to discern the magic worm. Of course in the end it didn't matter.
+NESFlint oooowwwww, thanks cap, you are right
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Things like "1+1=2" are simply facts, you can't lie about simple facts.
I like how jack has this happy look on him at the end while the viewers and the worms are getting a migraine trying to wrap there head around the answer
I would get a migraine.
Short explanation: no matter which one of them he asked they’d both give him the same answer. That answer would be a lie.
This
Yeah, everyone got it when Yugioh made a whole episode out of the same riddle a few years earlier.
"Which one are you asking?"
"The real magic worm."
That doesn't work because both would say they are the real magic worm. Even if the liar isnt the real worm it would still answer as if it was. So now you are stuck with no more questions and now have to randomly guess.
Jack: So when does the magic begin! 8D*Turns and sees he's inside the worms stomache along with a group of strangers*Jack: ...There is no magic, is there? 8C
At which point he slashes his way out because he still has his sword and honestly why wouldn't he?
The lie is a cake, stay woke Mah bruddha 👀
@@JaelinBezel Yeah I don't get why it ended without him even drawing it.
The man just wanted to see some magic happen...
The point is both of them would be lying. So all you have to do is chose opposite of what they tell you.
Noise Marine Unless the liar is the one who says "one of us tells only truths". They could both be lying and the other worm doesn't tell 'only' truths but tells truths AND lies while his brother tells only lies. That's how you end up in the belly of a worm only to realize there was never any magic to begin with.
The worm that claimed one of them tells only truths was also the worm to reply "of course" when Jack asked them if they understood his logic. It was also the same worm that said "You must decide which is the real magic worm". The whole thing was a setup.
The best conclusion.
"One tell the truth. The other tell the lies."
This may be straightforward line but come to think of it. If one of them gonna tell the lie then it'll be 2 separated way.
1st : if "one tell the truths" is a lie. Then the worm who say "one tell the lies" is a liar and so both will be conflict by themselves so they both are liars.
2nd : if "one tell the truths" is a truth. It can mean that the worm who said "one tell the lies" is a lie so they will mean there's no liar or both of them are liars. It can't be no liar because it'll conflict the sentence "one tell the truths" so this mean both of them are liars
1st and 2nd conclusion mean both are liars and you can just ask which one is magic worm. The both answer will be lies and you will know exactly which one is magic worm.
Aaaaaah yes of course 👀
I love how proud he looks for coming up with the answer.
I swear this almost made me bust a gut from laughing so hard at how easy jack made it seem with the explaination.
This also reminds me of Joey and yugi’s duel against the paradox brothers
It's a pretty famous old riddle. Both Samurai Jack and Yugi-Oh played homage to it. The actual riddle is about someone traveling and finding two brothers, one who tells lies and the other the truth, but only having one question to ask to determine a safe path. And yes, it goes exactly like this.
It actually is pretty easy. Jack made it seem harder than it was with his long winded explanation
1:45 everyone’s reaction when they first hear samurai Jack’s answer.
True
my mi-min-men-mind i-iss.... ooff!
Yes LMAO
Actually I'm big brain 5head and understand exactly what he said 👀 I mean of course
After 3 listens I think I got it.
Logic level: *BATMAN*
Basically
Except Batman would have brought his worm repellent
His smile at the end, LMAO.
Wow the fact that this has sparked several deep philosophical conversations, shows how deep this scene is.😂 Props to the writers.
I find it funny how the brothers were not only surprised that he found the right answer but were completely confused during his explanation.
Ah, the Labyrinth riddle. Classic.
ShadowQuickpaw I searched so long through the comments to find this. Thank you. Respect.
Eyy
Yu gi oh
With a twist. They're both liars here.
“If you were the truth telling worm, then what you’ve said would be a lie because you will answer truthfully what to your lying brother would say. Therefore, I can safely say the answer would be opposite of what you say. On the other other hand, if you were the lying worm, then you will tell me what your truth telling brother would say, but it would be a lie. Therefore, the answer will also be the opposite of what you say.”
Smart of Jack but unfortunately they're both liars.
1:27 this hurt my brain even now after all these years
That's because it's written in a deliberately obtuse way. The whole of Jack's explanation can be summed up much more simply:
The truth teller will say the liar will lie.
The liar will say the truth teller will lie.
Therefore, the given answer will always be a lie.
That smile at the end was heartwarming
That power I felt watching this when Jack confidently says "It doesn't matter." Amazing how well he had them trapped.
I know its not deadpool but it looks like if venom came from the ocean and fused with deadpool
69 likes, make a wish!
For tick tock to be banned
Your wish was granted!
Yay
Somebody call JACK the snakePools are back!
The fact that a lot of people who were wrong stayed silent after being told of that fact is sad.
Tldr: Deadpool snakes quiz Jack, then Deadpool snakes get confused.
@i hate anime even though I respect your opinion and don't know if you speak English or not. Can you use your words if your gonna put Deadpool on blast. You understand that the violence of Deadpool has been apart of his character since he was introduced.
For those who still can't get the explanation of how jack knew the answer from two lies:
Basically "the truth worm" would answer jacks question truthfully...
If he was his brother, he'd say "he is the magic worm"
Because his brother would lie and tell you the wrong one (so he answered with a truth)
However the "lie worm" would answer jacks question with a lie
He knows that his brother is the "magic worm". but he can only lie and say "I'm the magic worm" (he answered with a lie)
To make it clear the liar would only tell the lie (to keep jack away from the magic worm) however the truth would tell the truth (knowing that the lie is the truth to the question)
My favorite version of this riddle is from Order of the Stick. She shoots one in the foot, and asks: "Did that hurt?"
"Oh gods! No it doesn't hurt at all!"
They were happy to answer both that, AND a second question. 😆
What made it even funnier was that the _second_ time she encountered the pair, the truth-telling one immediately started screaming which direction she should go, while the lying one desperately covered its own mouth (he was the one she shot last time).
"you're an idiot"
"you're not"
Tl;dr
Basically with that one question, both worms will always point to the same worm.
The truth-worm will lie and say it isn't him, the lie worm will _still_ lie and say it is himself.
Truth worm doesn't lies. He basically says "My liar bro gonna lie"
I love the face Jack makes at the end.
Samurai Jack: fluent in over 1000 ways of kicking your ass both physically and mentally
I love Jack xD he’s so monotone but at the same time can be an absolute dork
Im grown up and I realized the worm's design speaks "Deadpool" to me
The worm on the right's voice is reminding me of Takahata101's impression of Alucard in Hellsing Abridged.
Wouldn't really work since its mostly a silence.
E Man that worm is actually voiced by Tim Curry.
@@sethquigley5136 oooooh love it
Sometimes you just have to admit when you have been bested.
Simplified question:
Raise 2 fingers and ask how many fingers you are holding up
Ist Archimedes I'd raise one cuz i know they're lying lol
jariekyyo i'd raise 11 but i'm not from Cernobyl
no because your not trying to find out who is lieing in this your trying to find out who is the magic worm
the lier saying you have 3 fingers up shows he lies but does not show who is the magic worm
That doesn't tell you which path is the correct one, only which guardian is the liar.
The Truth Teller could through off and answer '10' because he felt like answering in Base 2.
I remember as a kid that this scene was really tense, watching it as an adult now I can see how the tension was portrayed with multiple cuts and the "tick tock" music in the background. cool stuff.
WHEN DOES THE MAGIC HAPPEN!? :D
+shadowhog777 Poor Jack. xD
"There is no magic is there? :C"
+STER Gaming then he cut up the insides of those guys
Uh no there is not.
That's what I'd do.
This reminds me 24 editing. Split screens with Jack Bauer screaming BOMB !
*Camera forgets to edit out the part where Jack is looking up what the answer to the riddle is on his phone*
Essentially, -1 * 1 = -1, so you multiply by -1 to get 1, a truth.
That is the most amount of dialogue in the least amount of time that Jack has ever gotten.
Spoiler: the scene continues...
With Jack allowing the "magic" worm to swallow him in order to grant his wish. However, the worms aren't magical, whole thing is just a trick to get people to let the worms eat them.
Samurai Jack’s mind isn’t so easily fooled...he looks at things not only and every single angle and/or the big picture, but he’s the type of person that’ll look at something different and compare it to the task at hand. You don’t see that in a lot of people. I know that it is very safe to say that Jack is almost impossible to fool.
Figuring out who the imposter is in Among Us in a nutshell
I'm kind of confused on why so many in the comments are treating the explanation of the game's rules as part of the game itself.
They never said when the game started.
How many people can say they outsmarted a hydra cosplaying as Deadpool?
This scene was great in Labyrinth, so glad to see it found new life here.
I try to ignore fact, that this creature looks like two-headed Deadpool-dragon.
I know both worms were lying but no matter how many times this riddle comes up I still never understand the solution.
truth worm will give the wrong answer because he has to say what the lying worm would say - truth worm will give the wrong answer
lying worm will lie about what the truth worm would say - lying worm will give the wrong answer.
@@jamesharrison658
Right, meaning they should both give the same answer, and the correct choice is the opposite of what they both say.
This is well and good but if lying worm kept silent...Jack would have been f*cked...no?
cj hepburn they had to answer. It was their own riddle. And they didn’t think it meant anything so gladly did so.
@@ultimateqmazing2537 "so when does the magic begins?"
Damn, Jack pulled off a whole-ass IELTS task 2 essay there sdfsdf
I love jacks proud happy look on his face after
XD even DeadPool made his apperance in old Toons
I keep seeing "they're both lying", but here's a couple points to keep in mind:
The riddle is executed properly *if* either of them are allowed to talk regularly, until the riddle is provided and then only allowed to lie or tell the truth. Typically, this riddle is given by a third party, such as a signpost between two guards or doors acting as the guards. Since no third party is present, they act like one until they give the riddle...
Or, alternatively, the riddle was not executed properly *if* an individual is only ever allowed to tell truths or lies. The script uses "another" or "the other", when it should use "and one" at that section; they're both fulfilling their roles at that point, with the liar lying by referring to his brother ("one of us tells only lies", but talking about his brother) and the trigger teller truthfully referring to himself ("and one of us tells only truths", and talking about himself).
Or, lastly, they're idiots and didn't realize their phrasing can create a paradox where the liar and truth teller told a lie. They also both said "only one", referring to the single question Jack can ask, and that also causes said contradiction to the rules.
In fact he did not know which one is lying but by methods of deduction his answers to which one is lying is always correct. because if one is truthful and the other one is lying and we don't know which one is which each answer is correct if it was me, I would have pointed towards their body emphasizing on the paradoxical nature of the question.
I love this riddle, I first encountered it while reading a Sonic Select comic.
That look on his face at the end is pure gold
The grin he pulls like 30 seconds after this video ends is even better.
Haha the looks of the snakes reminds me of Deadpool😂
I like that Jack was smart enough to realize which one is which, but didn't take into the idea that a giant snake monster didn't have any knowledge of magic
As soon as Jack gets eat up from the 2 headed fish and says When the does the magic begin?
I laughed at the look on his face😂
Who else needs Asprin?
James Porter the trick is his question was set up to get the liars answer either way. this riddle was also used in Jim Henson's Labyrinth.
I want some.....from aspirind land.....
He literally rigged it so the true answer would always be the opposite of what they’d say. Genius.
God the Suspense the Art Style this show is Timeless!!!
While inside the worm "There is no magic is there?" :(
When I saw the image for this video, they reminded me of Deadpool
Okay…
A) I think they also did that same logic thing in the Powerpuff Girls episode, "Him Diddle Riddle".
And B) If you think THIS is something, you should check out what kind of logic Jack used in "Jack versus Aku".
+wolfguy23
I was thinking the same thing! When HIM asked the girls which Ms.Keane was the real Ms.Keane he used the same logic and some of the same wording
I remember that. But for some reason, they still picked the wrong one
The logic he used in Jack vs Aku was cyclical logic which gets redundant fast (the whole I knew You knew that I knew thing). Going any further beyond those three steps is pointless and is just saying the same thing over again, kind of like using a quintuple negative.
Because Samurai Jack is Professor from Powerpuff Girls and that monsters are Deadpool's dragon!
Illuminati confirmed!
Earthplayer We do, but schools don’t teach us about riddles nowadays. XD We have the Internet for those.
Our childhood was amazing we've seen all kinds of monsters and never were afraid of anything growing up sucks