That was indeed a costly repair. According to Infiniti’s parts catalog the long block assembly is discontinued. However, the short block is $5800 and the cylinder heads are $2600 each. Tack on turbos and timing components, that’s around $15,000 in parts alone. But hey, they saved that oil change money. 😂
Probably was a lease, and they ignored the calls and emails to bring it in for service. Going to bet they will be charged for the full cost of replacing the engine, and for the towing as well. Though as the lease holder likely is a company the actual driver will not see much of the cost, unless the company decides that this is also coming out of their bonus as well.
Nissan dealership: “ Could not have been us…………….We only install OEM filters” Looking at the WIX filter you installed yourself during the previous oil change. 😮
Never saw sludge like this. The worst was a guy who had been putting non-detergent 30wt in his engine. When we pulled the valve covers, it was like lifting a jell-o mold. Complete with "Chevrolet" molded into the sludge loaves.
I bought a Hymac in the 80s with a 6L Perkins diesel. The block was split from freezing. I had this welded. At the bottom of the sump was sludge like soft tarmac which I chiselled out. After a good clean and service it ran well with hard work for 5 years until sold. It was a very basic but well engineered engine.
In 1963 when I was 16, my friend bought a 1956 DeSoto that ran great. We pulled a rocker cover and it weighed about 20 lbs. it was full of grey jello. We cleaned it and the other side out and changed the engine oil to high detergent oil. When that oil cleaned out all the other sludge in the engine it burned oil terribly and never ran well again. Live and learn.
I owned 2 300ZX vehicles over the years and seeing this practically made me cry. Doing that to what I considered a beautiful engine is criminal. Whoever owned that and never changed the oil should never own another car again.
@@nigelalderman9178 Only a hunk of metal? Have you ever owned a car and loved it? I suspect not. As for extra C02 emissions, they would not have been bad IF the owner took care of the vehicle.
As a Q50 owner I must say I am impressed the engine was still running and it's that gunked up. I'm at 120k on mine and has never missed it's 5k oil change so I have high hopes I'll make it to 200k
@@D0nt_trip3 I was doing it every 3k but I was doing an oil change every month which was a bit excessive for me. plus I put in Lucas full synthetic oil stabilizer everytime and do 6qts instead of 5.5 for a little bit of extra protection.
@@dillpickle2512 putting more oil than required is not extra protection it’s called running rich and can hurt your car too just like running with less than required Can hurt your engine
@@D0nt_trip3 well 80k miles of doing that on top of the fact it's far from stock plus been beaten hard and no issues yet so guess I got lucky. knock on 🪵
Wouldn’t it then be a worse idea to get the 400hp engine because higher pressure leads to faster breakdown of engine? I’m assuming in most circumstances people don’t need an extra 100 hp.
@@poochie5543 only if you constantly at 6.5k rpm. The plasma spray in the cylinder walls has a very small coefficient of friction which expands the life of the engine.
Probably one of my former boss's vehicles. He was all too happy to tell people how he would lease a new vehicle and then run it into the ground until the check engine/oil lights came one, then dump it back for a newer one and start over.
I'm shocked!!! you blurred out the water pump groove? Must have had something to do with last week's injector removal sequence, I had to have a cigarette after that one, either way, great clip as always, you never disappoint!!! Thank you for sharing.
@@therealjeffdimps2 Not too sure why he blurred it out but it could be one of two things, 1. He may have gotten a warning from You-tube due to the explicit nature from the previous post, or he was just playing a prank on all of us because if you recall, he burred it out after he pulled the water pump, so we all seen it.
Coming from a Q50 vr30 i change mine every 2k miles. After i did the walnut blast service i had bought dual catch cans from boosted6. I would say my vr30 has ran very good. Also have upgraded intercooler from AMS with heat exchanger. Pretty much swapped everything to new. Maintaining it well with maintenance is important.
Crazy! Also 30.000k oil service interval says in my service book and on the car dash computer on my brand new gasoline 2023 volkswagen passat 1.5L turbo. I'm now at 20.000km and motor already burn oil to the minimum on the oil stick so I already add it like 1L. That's insane long and I already know this engine will not last too much after warranty expires for sure. On other way it's company car that I use for work and it's 3 year leasing period so I guess nobody cares. But still 30.000km oil intervals?! On gasoline car?! Yeah. That's planned obsolescence in the full blast!
According to the quickie lube all that needs is a can of magic engine flush, an oil change and a new air filter (because it always needs a new air filter), that engine will be good to go for another 500k miles! The pistons come out so easily because of low tension piston rings. Helps reduce friction when the pistons are moving which improves fuel economy. It’s also why so many modern engines burn oil. (I wrote all of that before you said it but didn’t feel like deleting it)
Most people think engines should not burn any oil and never check the level between changes. I know better and check mine several times between changes and top it up as needed. Manufactures need to pit a low oil light on the dash. Not low oil pressure... that light comes on and your already screwed. I have never figured out why they dont put a low oil level on cars. Probably cost 50 cents.
look at it this way. If you’re an intelligent Nissan Z, Q50 or Q60 owner the engine will run a long ass time if you change the oil. Wish the nimrod who owned this motor knew that 😮
The reason they do that with the drain bolt height is so the pickup tube is never not submerged in oil, so it never pulls air into the system during oil changes. The timing on these engines is really delicate and air being introduced can cause serious problems
AKA Nissan didn't want to start pumping oil? I mean that's a terrible liability to cover a quirk. And that's coming from someone who cracked a passenger cam gear on a VQHR, so this episode kinda hit close.
I can sorta buy that (though I would think that waiting a minute or two after filling it with oil would mitigate that kind of thing); composite oil pan is still a bit of a headscratcher though. Z1 makes a metal undershield for these now.
@@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 On many cylinder heads it is hard to get a clear view into the port, to determine of some fluid is draining through. That is a non-issue when you fill up the port, and monitor it from the chamber side. Also, pouring the fluid into the port allows a much deeper puddle, which equals a higher pressure, again making it easier to spot a leak.
I remember the old ad from the seventies about oil and filter changes (I think). It was a mechanic in front of his shop, The final line from the ad was "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
After my Q50 had its engine replaced at 60k miles because of the dreaded wastegate rattle,, Infiniti themselves told me 10k between oil changes was ok. I still do mine at 4k max.
@@2seep probably what Infiniti themselves say is okay for 'normal' driving. Most people's commutes fall under what most manufacturers describe as 'severe'.
Literally sat down with a bowl of popcorn to watch this. I was not disappointed. Always amazing to see an engine that's never had it's oil changed. Yeah, this one's oil is well on it's way to turning into polymerized plastic. Think seasoned cast iron cookware.
I know you don't claim to be an expert on all makes and models, but I thought you'd know about the performance benefits of fully floating timing chains by now! So much less drag when you stop spinning the cams as hard.
The inside of this engine reminds me of the view under the intake manifold of the first V8 I overhauled, a '64 Chevy 283. There was so much sludge that you couldn't see the cam at all. Lubricants have come a long way since then.
Well the insides reminds me of a 1970"s SBC running Quaker State. Saw that you helped out Rainman Ray with a Suburu engine. Your a good man Charlie Brown.
Sorry, I've seen way, WAY worse examples of sludging than this. Admittedly, not with so few miles as this. I very seen it at least an inch thick, on two different engines.
I'd love to see follow up interviews with some of these owners. Like "did you know oil changes are a thing?" Especially crazy being a new car.. it must've been telling her to change it for 50k miles.
Never thought I would enjoy Adam Sandler being a sensible and informative mechanic tearing down destroyed and neglected engines, but hey the past few years have been a wild enough ride that I can believe it
"It's always the obvious ones." HA! I've watched so many of your videos, and they're all great, but there was something about the way you said that, the low voice, the deadpan delivery, totally caught me by surprise. LOL indeed, my friend, you rock, don't forget on the difficult days. You rock. Keep on keeping on.
I am definitely more on top of my oil changes since watching you. I have a car with a little over 208,000 miles and still running smooth, will not go over 5,000 miles between oil changes. 👍🏼
The engine and turbos are exactly the same on the Red sport 400 and the base 300 HP version. The only difference engine wise is the 400 HP cars get a secondary intercooler pump. Aside from that though it’s just 8 psi vs around 13 psi. All the other differences are just in the brakes, seats etc.
655,000 miles on my 2014 duramax only changed the oil 4 times during the break in, after that i only change the filter every 20 to 25,000 miles and top of about 2 quarts instead of 10. Zero issues with this method now own my 3rd duramax, two previous to the 14 were both bought new and sold in perfect running condition well into the 600,000 range.
Typically when we replace VR30s at the dealer we do turbos too since they typically are going are already gone cause of the lack of oil from the sludge, and the price for these things with labor is 35k plus it’s insane
My uncle bought a new 1/2 ton Chevy back in the 90s. Its engine also went at about 60k because it never had an oil change. Good doc. Good on aircraft maintenance. Bad on vehicle maintenance.
Like one of my supervisors, a former helicopter crew chief, said, "You can't park an aircraft on a cloud!" Kinda explains your uncle's maintenance priorities.
All I can say is *THANK GOD FOR THE ARROWS IN THE THUMBNAIL.* I would be totally lost as to where to direct my attention if I was to be so unfortunate as to find a thumbnail without arrows. Thankully, that hasn't happened since around 2001, when every channel owned started assuming each viewer is bowling-ball-IQ and needs arrows to know where to look before clicking.
I hope you have a good Subie engine for Rainman Ray. An exchange, and you can tear down the one he has with a broken-off water pump bolt! Because who doesn’t love a good 4-cyl. Boxer engine teardown? 😊
-My only Nissan was an '82 Datsun Maxima. "Betty the Brown Beater" was an airport car I bought in Orlando and then took to Indianapolis in 1998. The car was in average shape with 125,000 miles, and it had a 2.4 liter L24 inline 6. The L24 was basically a Mercedes Benz engine and was used in the Datsun 240-280Z cars in the 1970's and '80's. It had Bosch L-Jetronic injection: I walked up to it in Indy covered with 8 inches of snow. It had sat in the lot for over two months. I scraped the snow away and climbed in, sure that it would be dead; It fired right up! Anyway, this was the car that had the famous talking dash. Today we take that for granted due to electronics, but back then it took a small phonograph with an actual needle to produce the sound. To this day this part is a collectors item! I couldn't hear it anyway; The muffler was blown apart and I used a shovel full of Florida dirt in the right rear corner of the car to reduce the sound coming through a tiny rust hole. I think it sounded good! I eventually sold the car to a pilot from American Trans Air, headquartered in Indy. Honestly, if that car is still running, driven by Republic Air pilots? I wouldn't be surprised....
I have no familiarity with Nissan engines, but after seeing this tear down I’m impressed. There’s no design goofiness or foibles, other than the plastic oil pan.
Eric, Such a great video and teardown. This engine reminded me of a 1977 Honda Civic CVCC that my wife and I purchased from a "friend" who worked at a new car dealership. It had about 32,000 miles on it when we bought it. Soon after I owned it, it needed to have the valves adjusted, which was normal for that engine. I pulled the valve cover off and was shocked to see how much sludge was caked in that head and valve cover. It was so thick in some spots that, it had hardened and had cracks in the cake of sludge. I don't thing that oil was EVER changed since new. I called the guy who sold me that and gave him a piece of my mind. Lesson learned--don't trust family friends to sell you a good car....LOL. I ran a bunch of kerosene through it and kept that oil changed every 3000 miles with a new filter and I ended up trading it in with over 70,000 miles. Engine still ran well, but the body was rusted to pieces.
Just discovered your channel and need to vent about oil change intervals. I'm from europe and the intervals seem to differ from other markets, so I'm not sure if it's the same there, especially for diesels. My latest daily, a volvo v70 d5 diesel has a manufacturer recommended oil change every 18k miles/30k km in the service manual. I've had this car since almost new and changed the oil every 10k km, because I've seen lab results online that even the highest quality oils lose their properties around that mark. Since that car is at almost 400k km now, I've dropped the oil changes to 15-20k km, because it's worth scrap value and just needs to die for me to get something new, I've noticed that the oil consistency changes quite fast after those 15k km. now imagine if a new car only has oil changed every 30k km/18k miles
Yet another example of you can't judge a book by its cover. Nice and pretty shiny on the outside...like the inside of a tar pit almost. A great video Eric 🙂
I had an 89 Saab 9000 Turbo with 120,000 miles. I changed the oil every 3000 thousand miles. When I changed it it still looked new. I sold that car for more than I paid for it after putting 100,000 miles on it. Those engines last forever. Do you ever get any Saabs??? I have watched close to all of your videos. Thanks, I love em.
You know you got quality metallurgy when the pry tabs break off! I felt ill when I saw the plastic bottom pan. Just as stupid as plastic water pump housings on some cars these days. I guess you can't run an engine on roof tar.......8^) liked the video, thanks!
My buddy tried the single oil change routine on his leased Infiniti. Spent two months negotiating the $15K the dealer wanted for a new engine. Got them down to $6K. He leaned his lesson: Oil changes are cheaper than a dealer with an attorney.
The owner, probably, "It burns oil, so I just kept topping it up, and then changed it at 45,000 miles...." My theory is the chain tensioner on the passenger side got so sludged up. it allowed the chain to come off the guide. Crunch!
Living in Europe, I never cease to be amazed at the state of the sludge etc build up in engines in your country. Maybe I am wrong, but i would humbly suggest that it is not down to owners not changing their oil, but to owners having their oil supposedly changed in "quick change" shops. The quick change shop may or may not change the oil, but if they do, they use the least expensive oil. My BMW diesel in Europe has circa 200,000 of your miles on it, with 20,000 mile oil change intervals. When it had a cam chain change at 120,000 I looked at the interior of the engine. it was spotless. Always top of the range fully synthetic oils, though.
We have millions of cars more than Europe, so you’re bound to see more cases of neglect. Probably drive more miles/Km than the average European. You guys barely even have pickup trucks over there. It’s a completely different driving culture
Used to know a guy who had an Exxon Full Service station way back in the 1990s. One day, I walked in on the mechanic wearing a slicker suit, goggles, and a face shield and wielding a pressure washer. A customer got a deal on a Acura Legend, because in 65,000 miles that car had one oil change, as a perk, from the dealer when the car was new-ish, so it looked much like that engine. It otherwise ran well, (had the standard transmission), so the customer decided if it lived, it lived, figured to replace it eventually but otherwise, for the miles was in very good shape, so after cleaning it with the pressure washer using hot water, replacing the belts and running a flush of some sort for a few hours and changing oil, go with it. Any additional miles were gravy, and see how long before dropping in a replacement. I'd seen it there for many more oil changes afterwards, still plugging along and not needing a new engine yet, until finally my buddy sold the station and moved out of state, so I don't know how much longer it lived after that. The few times afterwards I chatted with the mechanic, it never came up, and I eventually also moved away.
That was an excellent episode Eric!!! I noticed that 5 of the pistons had stuck rings, among several other problems that stemmed directly from the owner/operator neglecting this vehicle... The car that this engine came out of, was basically driven to the ground... It is incredible how complex these machines are... Lots of power and performance, with a reasonable amount of fuel efficiency.... That is, when they are running properly.... It's no wonder why vehicles of many types have become so expen$ive... Over-engineering to the 'Nth degree'... Much more complex, than what is actually necessary... Anyway, I like this channel, because it shows how the modern machines are put together, and how many things can and do go wrong with them, sometimes even when they are taken care-of properly, because the chances of mishap with exotic metals and super high technology, and extreme complexity are much more likely to happen,.... BTW, the actual cause if the failure of this engine, was because of the failed valve timing components, that are of a complex variable angle, adjust on the fly- design.... This has also happened on other engines that had been taken care-of properly... I like the older/simpler designs.... More reliable, easier to repair and fully capable of achieving any posted speed limits on the highways.... What more could anybody ask for?
Hold up Eric, I'm about to watch but I have a question right away; are you seeing the VR30's end up in salvage at a greater rate than the old VQ's? The 3.7 VHR specifically?
I gotta say, I’ve not changed the oil in my car for 35k miles, not once, but twice. Since I’ve owned it. Thankfully nothing bad has happened and I do run thicker oil than it specifies. My 4.6L 2v has done great. I do run 15w-40 Rotella T5. I’m not one to shirk off doing maintenance, I used to religiously change my oil every 5k miles at the very least. When life starts getting in the way of things, shit tends to happen. My engine still runs strong at 210k miles for an 04 grand marquis.
Having watched many of your videos with total destructed engines its interesting seeing that ANY oil is still better than NO oil. I would still recommend changing your engine oil of course!
Would it shock you to know some people will refuse to pay for synthetic oil even though that's what the manufacturer specifies? "It all does the same thing."
6:25, I work at AutoZone and we always have people who call in asking for water pump gaskets for those things and then ask us to describe it to them, I just usually tell them “well, it’s gonna be bigger than what your used to dealing with” then I hang up. We get a lot of those calls. Some VWs and Toyotas have the same shaped water pump gaskets
I'm currently Rebuilding a 3.6L LE0 Engine out of my 2005 vz Commodore ute. Looks exactly like this. I bought the ute second hand at 143,000km and I noticed the front seals where leaking when doing an oil change.. took off the rocker covers and front timing covers and It wasn't pretty... currently week 3 of soaking and scrubbing the engine and just spent $2.4K on new gaskets, timing chains, pistons, rings and conrods, oil pump, basically a full rebuild of parts.
I’m 0:26 into this one…my guess is no one changed the oil
Hole smokes at 2:52 I was close
Holy Rainman Ray good evening sir. 😃
@@RainmanRaysRepairs when it rains it pours
@@kevincurry4735 👋 hello
Ray I'm sure you've seen this more times than you even want to remember.
That was indeed a costly repair. According to Infiniti’s parts catalog the long block assembly is discontinued. However, the short block is $5800 and the cylinder heads are $2600 each. Tack on turbos and timing components, that’s around $15,000 in parts alone. But hey, they saved that oil change money. 😂
Ffs lmfao
Whoever owned the car took fuck it to a level even beyond what I do.
I can almost guarantee the owner of this vehicle microwaves fish at work
Probably was a lease, and they ignored the calls and emails to bring it in for service. Going to bet they will be charged for the full cost of replacing the engine, and for the towing as well. Though as the lease holder likely is a company the actual driver will not see much of the cost, unless the company decides that this is also coming out of their bonus as well.
Ouch
@@Lovesausage269 So what is the issue with a fish in a microwave? Horrible smell? I never had the idea to microwave a fish
The contrast between the inside and the outside of this engine is remarkable.
that's why you eat healthy and poop often... lest you as well be full of s*it.
The outside of that engine looked imaculate.
That engine was damn near misou black inside.
The size of that water pump passage is quite impressive. Even blurred out it’s impossible to look away.
So, what did I miss… why is it blurred out? Or is that just a running gag…
I appreciate the commitment to the gag of blurring it for the duration of the video
Blurring it out was a cute joke for this one video, but please don't make this an ongoing bit!
Why is it blurred out, supersecret design?
@@billvoorvaart7206 it's an ongoing joke that water pump channels look like something that belongs in am X-rated movie
I think that engine, and that oil, both had 60K miles on them. Your dedication to covering that water pump with a blur is commendable LOL.
Why cover water pump?
@@daletoro It closely resembles... "the strongest shape".
Eric is taking NO chances with the TH-cam police 😁
Non-mechanical newcomer here, unaware until now that engines have naughty bits.
I do not think that Purolator oil filter was factory. That oil filter had been changed at least once.
Your unwavering dedication to your usual gags is what keeps me here. That and the carnage.
I like the always blursed water pump cavity.
Can I ask why he blurred the water pump? Can’t get the context of the joke haha
It saddens me to see an engine worth more than my current car get murdered, especially an expensive engine in an expensive car.
Rich people with more money than brains.
@@TiborRoussou too many of them
@TiborRoussou You are correct!! Common sense is not common!!😱🤬
@@TiborRoussou The amount of neglect makes me wonder if they even had brains.
expensive people dont give a sht,,they can afford it.. hood lever,,??,,whats that..??.
Remember kids if your water pump starts getting drippy to consult your doctor lol
Or just censor it's orifice...........🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍
I just drop a couple pinicillin in my radiator every now and again.
Why was he blurring out the water pump
@@ryans413 To be funny
@@ryans413lmao
"No one has ever blown up their engine from changing their oil too often."
WalMart tire and lube HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
Jiffy Lube says "hold my monster energy drink as I put your drain plug in with a 3/4 impact."
Firestone says "It wasn't us, the last guys must have cross threaded it - you need a $600 oil pan or a tow out."
Nissan dealership:
“ Could not have been us…………….We only install OEM filters”
Looking at the WIX filter you installed yourself during the previous oil change. 😮
Take 5- WTF is oil?
...As long as they add the new oil in, and remember to put the new oil filter back on!
Never saw sludge like this. The worst was a guy who had been putting non-detergent 30wt in his engine. When we pulled the valve covers, it was like lifting a jell-o mold. Complete with "Chevrolet" molded into the sludge loaves.
I've seen engines like that several times on the Just Rolled In channel. It's really something.
Just need to add the cat chow bits for garnish. Yum!
I bought a Hymac in the 80s with a 6L Perkins diesel. The block was split from freezing. I had this welded. At the bottom of the sump was sludge like soft tarmac which I chiselled out. After a good clean and service it ran well with hard work for 5 years until sold. It was a very basic but well engineered engine.
Sludge loaves? 🤣
@@mikegreen2229 💀
In 1963 when I was 16, my friend bought a 1956 DeSoto that ran great. We pulled a rocker cover and it weighed about 20 lbs. it was full of grey jello. We cleaned it and the other side out and changed the engine oil to high detergent oil. When that oil cleaned out all the other sludge in the engine it burned oil terribly and never ran well again. Live and learn.
I guess that's why some mechanics suggest not to flush an old high mileage auto transmission, because that's going to be the end of it😁
I owned 2 300ZX vehicles over the years and seeing this practically made me cry. Doing that to what I considered a beautiful engine is criminal. Whoever owned that and never changed the oil should never own another car again.
It probably got repossessed from the original owner who never had the money to own it
It's only a hunk of metal. The extra CO2 emissions are probably the worst part.
@@nigelalderman9178you are probably on the wrong side of TH-cam. Emissions make us smile
Trees like CO2.. Your trees will grow better.
@@nigelalderman9178 Only a hunk of metal? Have you ever owned a car and loved it? I suspect not. As for extra C02 emissions, they would not have been bad IF the owner took care of the vehicle.
As a Q50 owner I must say I am impressed the engine was still running and it's that gunked up. I'm at 120k on mine and has never missed it's 5k oil change so I have high hopes I'll make it to 200k
Dam you wait to 5k I do mine 3k I rather be safe then sorry
@@D0nt_trip3 I was doing it every 3k but I was doing an oil change every month which was a bit excessive for me. plus I put in Lucas full synthetic oil stabilizer everytime and do 6qts instead of 5.5 for a little bit of extra protection.
@@dillpickle2512 putting more oil than required is not extra protection it’s called running rich and can hurt your car too just like running with less than required Can hurt your engine
@@D0nt_trip3 well 80k miles of doing that on top of the fact it's far from stock plus been beaten hard and no issues yet so guess I got lucky. knock on 🪵
Why did you cover up the water pump outlet
I'm not sure what i like more, when you chuck a good water pump or when you gently wrap up and lay down a bad one. I crack up every time 😂😂
The power difference is due to boost level in the tune. 400hp version runs 14 psi and 2 intercooler pumps
Wouldn’t it then be a worse idea to get the 400hp engine because higher pressure leads to faster breakdown of engine? I’m assuming in most circumstances people don’t need an extra 100 hp.
@Poochie ! That's not how it works lol
@@poochie5543 only if you constantly at 6.5k rpm. The plasma spray in the cylinder walls has a very small coefficient of friction which expands the life of the engine.
Probably one of my former boss's vehicles. He was all too happy to tell people how he would lease a new vehicle and then run it into the ground until the check engine/oil lights came one, then dump it back for a newer one and start over.
I'm shocked!!! you blurred out the water pump groove? Must have had something to do with last week's injector removal sequence, I had to have a cigarette after that one, either way, great clip as always, you never disappoint!!! Thank you for sharing.
Why did he blur it out I don’t get it
@@therealjeffdimps2 Not too sure why he blurred it out but it could be one of two things, 1. He may have gotten a warning from You-tube due to the explicit nature from the previous post, or he was just playing a prank on all of us because if you recall, he burred it out after he pulled the water pump, so we all seen it.
Dude I'm laughing so hard at the water pump censorship😂😂😂
Is there a secret about it lol?
i dont get it
@@vonksummer9099 I don't either
Stupidest thing i ever seen
These videos will always be my favorite part about Saturdays!
Saturdays.
Coming from a Q50 vr30 i change mine every 2k miles. After i did the walnut blast service i had bought dual catch cans from boosted6. I would say my vr30 has ran very good. Also have upgraded intercooler from AMS with heat exchanger. Pretty much swapped everything to new. Maintaining it well with maintenance is important.
I look forward to these videos every Saturday night. Thank you for doing them.
Crazy! Also 30.000k oil service interval says in my service book and on the car dash computer on my brand new gasoline 2023 volkswagen passat 1.5L turbo. I'm now at 20.000km and motor already burn oil to the minimum on the oil stick so I already add it like 1L. That's insane long and I already know this engine will not last too much after warranty expires for sure. On other way it's company car that I use for work and it's 3 year leasing period so I guess nobody cares. But still 30.000km oil intervals?! On gasoline car?! Yeah. That's planned obsolescence in the full blast!
According to the quickie lube all that needs is a can of magic engine flush, an oil change and a new air filter (because it always needs a new air filter), that engine will be good to go for another 500k miles!
The pistons come out so easily because of low tension piston rings. Helps reduce friction when the pistons are moving which improves fuel economy. It’s also why so many modern engines burn oil. (I wrote all of that before you said it but didn’t feel like deleting it)
Most people think engines should not burn any oil and never check the level between changes.
I know better and check mine several times between changes and top it up as needed.
Manufactures need to pit a low oil light on the dash. Not low oil pressure... that light comes on and your already screwed. I have never figured out why they dont put a low oil level on cars. Probably cost 50 cents.
@@ohioplayer-bl9emalmost certain my e60 has one of those 😂
It amazes me to see how these neglected engines hold up pretty well. How is it possible that it actually has so little damage?
look at it this way. If you’re an intelligent Nissan Z, Q50 or Q60 owner the engine will run a long ass time if you change the oil. Wish the nimrod who owned this motor knew that 😮
The reason they do that with the drain bolt height is so the pickup tube is never not submerged in oil, so it never pulls air into the system during oil changes. The timing on these engines is really delicate and air being introduced can cause serious problems
AKA Nissan didn't want to start pumping oil? I mean that's a terrible liability to cover a quirk. And that's coming from someone who cracked a passenger cam gear on a VQHR, so this episode kinda hit close.
I can sorta buy that (though I would think that waiting a minute or two after filling it with oil would mitigate that kind of thing); composite oil pan is still a bit of a headscratcher though.
Z1 makes a metal undershield for these now.
These are best viewed Sunday morning with coffee. I love his tear downs. It's like the whole train wreck thing with what people do to their cars.
Every time I see one of these video's I change my oil. Right now I have changed my oil 28 times over 3 months. Very clean engine.
26:50
Another way to check for bent valves is to put some solvent in the ports and observe the combustion chamber for any leaks.
This is a much better way to check it.
@@HomelabExtreme What's the difference?
@@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 On many cylinder heads it is hard to get a clear view into the port, to determine of some fluid is draining through.
That is a non-issue when you fill up the port, and monitor it from the chamber side.
Also, pouring the fluid into the port allows a much deeper puddle, which equals a higher pressure, again making it easier to spot a leak.
@@HomelabExtreme Thanks.
I remember the old ad from the seventies about oil and filter changes (I think). It was a mechanic in front of his shop, The final line from the ad was "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
Was that Motorcraft?? (showing my age😉)
After my Q50 had its engine replaced at 60k miles because of the dreaded wastegate rattle,, Infiniti themselves told me 10k between oil changes was ok. I still do mine at 4k max.
They replaced the whole engine because of wastegate rattle?
I'm pretty sure this owner thought they said 100k mile oil change interval. :)
10k? That’s asking for the engine to blow, and from the Infiniti technicians?
@@2seep probably what Infiniti themselves say is okay for 'normal' driving. Most people's commutes fall under what most manufacturers describe as 'severe'.
As long as you are using the correct oil this is perfectly fine. You can always work your way up to it doing oil analysis as you go.
Thanks Eric, your time and energy mean a lot to people 🤩
Literally sat down with a bowl of popcorn to watch this. I was not disappointed. Always amazing to see an engine that's never had it's oil changed.
Yeah, this one's oil is well on it's way to turning into polymerized plastic. Think seasoned cast iron cookware.
I know you don't claim to be an expert on all makes and models, but I thought you'd know about the performance benefits of fully floating timing chains by now! So much less drag when you stop spinning the cams as hard.
😂😂😂
The inside of this engine reminds me of the view under the intake manifold of the first V8 I overhauled, a '64 Chevy 283. There was so much sludge that you couldn't see the cam at all. Lubricants have come a long way since then.
The sludge reminds me of engines from way back in the day that ran non-detergent oil.
Well the insides reminds me of a 1970"s SBC running Quaker State. Saw that you helped out Rainman Ray with a Suburu engine. Your a good man Charlie Brown.
Good evening Eric. From first sight from pulling the covers, the oil sludge in this engine probably be epic.
Sorry, I've seen way, WAY worse examples of sludging than this. Admittedly, not with so few miles as this. I very seen it at least an inch thick, on two different engines.
I am sure there are some with more sludge. That was probably by adding more oil over time until they made an oil crankcase mold.
I'd love to see follow up interviews with some of these owners. Like "did you know oil changes are a thing?"
Especially crazy being a new car.. it must've been telling her to change it for 50k miles.
knew it must have been a her.
Always an entertaining engine teardown. Thanks Eric.
Back in the day, this type of sludge is how mechanics knew if the owner used Quaker State oil! I bet it smelled lovely!!
yup - had a lady at work stating she NEVER changes the oil. What the.....!
Never thought I would enjoy Adam Sandler being a sensible and informative mechanic tearing down destroyed and neglected engines, but hey the past few years have been a wild enough ride that I can believe it
Great video as always Eric 😀
did you figure out where the two springs in the oil pickup came from ??
This, enquiring minds want to know.....
I think if you look at the smashed cam gear you can see 2 holes inside it where those springs would sit.
First time in a long time that you haven't had a single bad piston. Must be a full moon out.
The water pump bit never gets old 😂😂
the oil is now acting like a second adhesive to hold the engine together🤣🤣🤣
"It's always the obvious ones."
HA!
I've watched so many of your videos, and they're all great, but there was something about the way you said that, the low voice, the deadpan delivery, totally caught me by surprise.
LOL indeed, my friend, you rock, don't forget on the difficult days.
You rock. Keep on keeping on.
After having one of those days , it's nice to just sit back and watch the autopsy of some poor engine that had a worse one .
I hear you!
A crash bracket. Wow must have been some interesting - fiery? - crash testing results that motivated that addition.
Especially since manufacturers don't spend an extra dime for anything.
I am definitely more on top of my oil changes since watching you. I have a car with a little over 208,000 miles and still running smooth, will not go over 5,000 miles between oil changes. 👍🏼
Another Saturday night eating popcorn and watching an engine teardown. How sad am I?
It's the best part of the week
You have a few very sad friends...
Honorable mention: Parts Washer is a real trooper!
The engine and turbos are exactly the same on the Red sport 400 and the base 300 HP version. The only difference engine wise is the 400 HP cars get a secondary intercooler pump. Aside from that though it’s just 8 psi vs around 13 psi. All the other differences are just in the brakes, seats etc.
That's not buildup on those cams, that's seasoning!🍳
He was preparing sauce for the piston mcnuggets. The order of nuggets never got filled though...
655,000 miles on my 2014 duramax only changed the oil 4 times during the break in, after that i only change the filter every 20 to 25,000 miles and top of about 2 quarts instead of 10. Zero issues with this method now own my 3rd duramax, two previous to the 14 were both bought new and sold in perfect running condition well into the 600,000 range.
Typically when we replace VR30s at the dealer we do turbos too since they typically are going are already gone cause of the lack of oil from the sludge, and the price for these things with labor is 35k plus it’s insane
Can someone explain why he blurred the water pump hole after we saw it clearly,..I do t understand 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I would have liked to see the inside of the oil filter.
Well the block was really clean,
I ordered a 85" TV just so I can watch your videos,
So where did those 2 springs in the pickup come from?
The broken cam phaser
My uncle bought a new 1/2 ton Chevy back in the 90s. Its engine also went at about 60k because it never had an oil change. Good doc. Good on aircraft maintenance. Bad on vehicle maintenance.
Like one of my supervisors, a former helicopter crew chief, said, "You can't park an aircraft on a cloud!"
Kinda explains your uncle's maintenance priorities.
I want to see what the oil filter element looked like.
All I can say is *THANK GOD FOR THE ARROWS IN THE THUMBNAIL.*
I would be totally lost as to where to direct my attention if I was to be so unfortunate as to find a thumbnail without arrows.
Thankully, that hasn't happened since around 2001, when every channel owned started assuming each viewer is bowling-ball-IQ and needs arrows to know where to look before clicking.
I hope you have a good Subie engine for Rainman Ray. An exchange, and you can tear down the one he has with a broken-off water pump bolt! Because who doesn’t love a good 4-cyl. Boxer engine teardown? 😊
-My only Nissan was an '82 Datsun Maxima. "Betty the Brown Beater" was an airport car I bought in Orlando and then took to Indianapolis in 1998. The car was in average shape with 125,000 miles, and it had a 2.4 liter L24 inline 6. The L24 was basically a Mercedes Benz engine and was used in the Datsun 240-280Z cars in the 1970's and '80's. It had Bosch L-Jetronic injection: I walked up to it in Indy covered with 8 inches of snow. It had sat in the lot for over two months. I scraped the snow away and climbed in, sure that it would be dead; It fired right up!
Anyway, this was the car that had the famous talking dash. Today we take that for granted due to electronics, but back then it took a small phonograph with an actual needle to produce the sound. To this day this part is a collectors item! I couldn't hear it anyway; The muffler was blown apart and I used a shovel full of Florida dirt in the right rear corner of the car to reduce the sound coming through a tiny rust hole. I think it sounded good!
I eventually sold the car to a pilot from American Trans Air, headquartered in Indy. Honestly, if that car is still running, driven by Republic Air pilots? I wouldn't be surprised....
LOL I had that engine in my first car - a 240K. Slow af, but super smooth. Broke down a lot...
I have no familiarity with Nissan engines, but after seeing this tear down I’m impressed. There’s no design goofiness or foibles, other than the plastic oil pan.
The water pump blur had me laughing on and off through the whole video 😂
Eric, Such a great video and teardown. This engine reminded me of a 1977 Honda Civic CVCC that my wife and I purchased from a "friend" who worked at a new car dealership. It had about 32,000 miles on it when we bought it. Soon after I owned it, it needed to have the valves adjusted, which was normal for that engine. I pulled the valve cover off and was shocked to see how much sludge was caked in that head and valve cover. It was so thick in some spots that, it had hardened and had cracks in the cake of sludge. I don't thing that oil was EVER changed since new. I called the guy who sold me that and gave him a piece of my mind. Lesson learned--don't trust family friends to sell you a good car....LOL. I ran a bunch of kerosene through it and kept that oil changed every 3000 miles with a new filter and I ended up trading it in with over 70,000 miles. Engine still ran well, but the body was rusted to pieces.
The blurry water pump spot throughout the video was awesome
Just discovered your channel and need to vent about oil change intervals. I'm from europe and the intervals seem to differ from other markets, so I'm not sure if it's the same there, especially for diesels. My latest daily, a volvo v70 d5 diesel has a manufacturer recommended oil change every 18k miles/30k km in the service manual. I've had this car since almost new and changed the oil every 10k km, because I've seen lab results online that even the highest quality oils lose their properties around that mark. Since that car is at almost 400k km now, I've dropped the oil changes to 15-20k km, because it's worth scrap value and just needs to die for me to get something new, I've noticed that the oil consistency changes quite fast after those 15k km. now imagine if a new car only has oil changed every 30k km/18k miles
These videos never get old! Still looking forward to the dodge magnum tear down 😊
Yet another example of you can't judge a book by its cover. Nice and pretty shiny on the outside...like the inside of a tar pit almost.
A great video Eric 🙂
That was Grizzly! I'm betting the car was flashing "change my oil" for 3 years.
Think they turned it off every 5K or whatever interval it went on?
Grisly* sorry though
At 7:23
The blur....
Okay, the funny blurring is already lost it's funny....why is it still on there??
At 14:21
The blur is still there!!
Crazy thing is that infinite suggests oil changes every 10k! That alone seems too long. I change oil on my q50 every 6 months.
I had an 89 Saab 9000 Turbo with 120,000 miles. I changed the oil every 3000 thousand miles. When I changed it it still looked new. I sold that car for more than I paid for it after putting 100,000 miles on it. Those engines last forever. Do you ever get any Saabs??? I have watched close to all of your videos. Thanks, I love em.
You know you got quality metallurgy when the pry tabs break off! I felt ill when I saw the plastic bottom pan. Just as stupid as plastic water pump housings on some cars these days. I guess you can't run an engine on roof tar.......8^) liked the video, thanks!
Those aren't for prying against. Likely there for holding it in a jig for machining at the factory.
My buddy tried the single oil change routine on his leased Infiniti. Spent two months negotiating the $15K the dealer wanted for a new engine. Got them down to $6K.
He leaned his lesson: Oil changes are cheaper than a dealer with an attorney.
The owner, probably, "It burns oil, so I just kept topping it up, and then changed it at 45,000 miles...."
My theory is the chain tensioner on the passenger side got so sludged up. it allowed the chain to come off the guide. Crunch!
Living in Europe, I never cease to be amazed at the state of the sludge etc build up in engines in your country. Maybe I am wrong, but i would humbly suggest that it is not down to owners not changing their oil, but to owners having their oil supposedly changed in "quick change" shops. The quick change shop may or may not change the oil, but if they do, they use the least expensive oil. My BMW diesel in Europe has circa 200,000 of your miles on it, with 20,000 mile oil change intervals. When it had a cam chain change at 120,000 I looked at the interior of the engine. it was spotless. Always top of the range fully synthetic oils, though.
We have millions of cars more than Europe, so you’re bound to see more cases of neglect. Probably drive more miles/Km than the average European. You guys barely even have pickup trucks over there. It’s a completely different driving culture
The ones that get maintained well are still on the road! 😅 it’s the neglected ones we get to see on this channel. Mostly anyway
This looks like a "It had oil in it when I bought it! Why does it need more?" Situation 😂
Used to know a guy who had an Exxon Full Service station way back in the 1990s. One day, I walked in on the mechanic wearing a slicker suit, goggles, and a face shield and wielding a pressure washer. A customer got a deal on a Acura Legend, because in 65,000 miles that car had one oil change, as a perk, from the dealer when the car was new-ish, so it looked much like that engine. It otherwise ran well, (had the standard transmission), so the customer decided if it lived, it lived, figured to replace it eventually but otherwise, for the miles was in very good shape, so after cleaning it with the pressure washer using hot water, replacing the belts and running a flush of some sort for a few hours and changing oil, go with it. Any additional miles were gravy, and see how long before dropping in a replacement. I'd seen it there for many more oil changes afterwards, still plugging along and not needing a new engine yet, until finally my buddy sold the station and moved out of state, so I don't know how much longer it lived after that. The few times afterwards I chatted with the mechanic, it never came up, and I eventually also moved away.
All things considered with that much sludge, the motor was in overall pretty good shape.
That was an excellent episode Eric!!! I noticed that 5 of the pistons had stuck rings, among several other problems that stemmed directly from the owner/operator neglecting this vehicle... The car that this engine came out of, was basically driven to the ground... It is incredible how complex these machines are... Lots of power and performance, with a reasonable amount of fuel efficiency....
That is, when they are running properly.... It's no wonder why vehicles of many types have become so expen$ive... Over-engineering to the 'Nth degree'... Much more complex, than what is actually necessary...
Anyway, I like this channel, because it shows how the modern machines are put together, and how many things can and do go wrong with them, sometimes even when they are taken care-of properly, because the chances of mishap with exotic metals and super high technology, and extreme complexity are much more likely to happen,.... BTW, the actual cause if the failure of this engine, was because of the failed valve timing components, that are of a complex variable angle, adjust on the fly- design.... This has also happened on other engines that had been taken care-of properly...
I like the older/simpler designs.... More reliable, easier to repair and fully capable of achieving any posted speed limits on the highways.... What more could anybody ask for?
Hold up Eric, I'm about to watch but I have a question right away; are you seeing the VR30's end up in salvage at a greater rate than the old VQ's? The 3.7 VHR specifically?
The vhrs were never at a salvage rate ever, maybe a DE or maybe a HR he doesn’t even have a vhr video on here only a hr
26:03 Piston made contact with valve and it looks pretty pleased about it
I don't think I've ever seen motor oil turn to plastic inside an engine.
I gotta say, I’ve not changed the oil in my car for 35k miles, not once, but twice. Since I’ve owned it. Thankfully nothing bad has happened and I do run thicker oil than it specifies. My 4.6L 2v has done great. I do run 15w-40 Rotella T5. I’m not one to shirk off doing maintenance, I used to religiously change my oil every 5k miles at the very least. When life starts getting in the way of things, shit tends to happen. My engine still runs strong at 210k miles for an 04 grand marquis.
Those pistons look happy to see us.
i saw a video of a shredder shredding nissan engines, seemed odd at the time, makes more sense now. great vid!
i love how the water pump is outside the timing cover. such a pain on the early model VQ engine.
The blurred out water pump housing is cracking me up!!
😂 it's exposing itself
Having watched many of your videos with total destructed engines its interesting seeing that ANY oil is still better than NO oil. I would still recommend changing your engine oil of course!
Wait, you actually blurred the water pump? 😂
Side note, it's shocking to know there are people who believes oil changes are unnecessary
Would it shock you to know some people will refuse to pay for synthetic oil even though that's what the manufacturer specifies?
"It all does the same thing."
@ivertranes2516 No, that wouldn't surprise me at all
Clearly 50 points of bad design. Pair it up with neglect, and you get this. Job is done. Loved it.
Wow! 😮 That engine was dirtier than my ex-girlfriend!!
Yes, I have a q50 vr30 fbo tuned, this video is truly a gift thank you so much
Funeral Director: "Hey Eric, my hearse gets really bad gas mileage."
Eric: "That's because of all the dead weight in the back."
6:25, I work at AutoZone and we always have people who call in asking for water pump gaskets for those things and then ask us to describe it to them, I just usually tell them “well, it’s gonna be bigger than what your used to dealing with” then I hang up. We get a lot of those calls. Some VWs and Toyotas have the same shaped water pump gaskets
This engine was pretty stout. I'd imagine it would run a long time with regular oil changes.
I'm currently Rebuilding a 3.6L LE0 Engine out of my 2005 vz Commodore ute. Looks exactly like this. I bought the ute second hand at 143,000km and I noticed the front seals where leaking when doing an oil change.. took off the rocker covers and front timing covers and It wasn't pretty... currently week 3 of soaking and scrubbing the engine and just spent $2.4K on new gaskets, timing chains, pistons, rings and conrods, oil pump, basically a full rebuild of parts.