Oil Pastels and their durability.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.พ. 2019
- This video goes over just how durable oil pastels really are. That seems to be one of the drawbacks I hear a lot. Well, some of that is true, but after awhile they do actually harden up and dry. I've left several of my oil pastel paintings unframed with no glass or fixative and they have held up quite well.
The hard panels I show here are DaVinci Pro Panels medium textured gesso panels. You can find them at jerrysartarama.com
The oil pastels I use are Sennelier, Mungyo Gallery Soft oil pastel, Caran d'ache neopastel.
Papers shown are Canson Mi Teintes, Fabriano Tiziano, and ClaireFontaine Pastelmat. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Hey, really want to thank you for this video! I didn't know that pastels dried that hard! That you don't use a fixatif is really interesting! Also, your art is so expressive and visionary! It is really quite a treat that I found this channel. I just got my full set of Sennelier Pastels today and I can't wait to get painting with them. But I haven't even had my coffee yet! While I was waiting for my first cup I got on the computer and started looking at TH-cam videos. Your presentation is very impressive and your art is fantastic! I wish you a lot of success! Thank You Again!
Wow! So glad you shared this! I have not heard anyone else say that oil pastel will eventually dry so this is a very important discovery! I think knowing this would make more people open to creating art with oil pastel. Thanks and your art is beautiful!
Your paintings are terrific! I really enjoyed this video and learned a lot from your experiences! Thank you so very much.
Thank you!
thank you for sharing this! definetly helps me understand a little more about oil pastels!
Thank you for watching!
I am getting a heart attack every time you are scratching on those magnificent paintings..🤣🤣
Love this video. I'm so happy seeing another oil pastel user!
Thank you so much!! Love oil pastels!
What a great informative video! ThankYou so much for sharing your experience.
Thank you so much! Thanks for watching
Great work Sir, I just started my Oil-pastels journey
Wow! Your art is beautiful...I am just starting in pastels and never knew oil pastels could be so gorgeous! You are very talented and I am so glad you are sharing. I just found your channel!
I have been needing this info so thank you!!
Thanks Jackie. Your comment along with others is what fuels me to do more videos. Thanks so much!
I was thinking about painting with oil pastels but I wasn’t sure, since I thought it doesn’t dry, similar to my personal experience using oils on canvas but I really want to paint a landscape! This video is very helpful and inspiring! Thank you for sharing ☺️💖
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for the informative video. I live in a high desert climate that's arid year around with high heat in summer and cold in winter and my oil pastels do seem to dry pretty much over time as well. But living in a desert, there is a lot of dust so I have yet to try hanging any without being under glass yet.
With a lot of dust, I would probably frame behind glass. I am playing a lot with final fixatives and that works great for protection. That might work for you. I like the grumbacher (gloss brilliant) final fixative and Blair gloss.
Thanks, you answered my questions.
You’re welcome
Thank you for your informative videos.......I’ve put Mod Podge onto oil pastel with good effect also. 🥰🥰🥰
Wow, Rich, just wow! Thank you so much for this super useful info!!! 👏 it's probably the best demonstration that exists! I feel the urge to do Russian subtitles for that (actually English subs would be even more useful...) - will see if I get to do it! :)
Thank you and yes, go ahead and translate to Russian if you want or have the time.
Thank you for making and sharing your video, I tell people that oil pastel do dry or cure, but they didn't believe me or were sceptical. And I was thinking of doing a video but then I found your video. Thank you for sharing your video. Cheers!
Thank you! I appreciate it and thanks for watching!
@@raizes cheers!
Thanks so much for this video, Rich. I've been painting with oil pastels on paper (one of my favorites is Strathmore mixed media paper). I have some of the DaVinci panels. Also, I have some of the aluminum panels from Jerrys. Aluminum panels do not have to be gessoed for oils or acrylics which I find interesting. So, they might be perfect for oil pastels. The ones I bought have a smooth side and a slightly textured side.
Thank you. Those aluminum panels sound really interesting. I'll have to check those out.
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This was such an eye opener!! Thank you for such great info, and great examples to back up that info! Your artwork in just so freakin’ cool!
Do you know of any ways to speed up the drying time so that it’s faster than months or years?
I’m brand new to oil pastels. So, I’ve just been using my Canson XL watercolor spiral bound sketchbooks. Plus, I have a small house and no space for a studio, so I need to keep everything small and portable.
Thank you Wendi. A cold, dry environment is best in my opinion, but it's still going to take a some months to harden up. One thing you can try is placing your finished OP work in a fridge or even freezer. I've done the freezer thing before overnight and it did help it "harden" faster. I've never left it there longer than a day though. You might want to experiment with that and see how it works for you.
Since you need to keep things small and portable, you may want to use a final fixative after the OP painting has been sitting out for a couple weeks. I've done that on my smaller work (5x7, 8x10, even 11x14). In fact for my greeting cards which are 5x7; I let those sit out for a week and then sprayed Krylon Matte Finish fixative and they are perfect. Colors are great, 100% protection and I can put that greeting card in it's enveloped and mail away.
Rich Arriagada Thank you for the helpful advice! 😀👍
I watched your video again, your paintings are awesome. I got the krylon fixative because I can't afford the sennellier one, but I do find all the warnings quite intimidating, and the odour, I spray it outside and it's still really strong! However, it does make the paintings look nice, so far I've just used it on the paintings in my sketch book, but I've nearly finished a portrait and I'll use the krylon on it. Even though I got the matt krylon fixative it still has a bit of a sheen, but I still much prefer putting them in a good frame in behind glass, which is a good way for archival purposes. Once again thank you for doing the video. Cheers!
Thank you. The krylon fixative works great and still use it quite a bit. I do t like the odor either so I always spray outside and cover my face. And I agree also that framing behind glass is the best way to go for oil and dry pastels. Thanks for commenting!
@@raizes thank you for replying, maybe it's a good thing that it's smelly, but all the warnings sure are scary!😄 but they sure did make my sketchbook paints look like something special. It'll make my mums portrait really nice, one day I'll get the sennellier but right now it's out of my budget. Cheers!
Thanks for debunking this commonly held myth.
You're welcome!
And the final question is: do you think the drying time depends on the surface too?
Thanks a ton again for this awesome video!!! You've done a very convincing test, I really enjoyed it and was actually amazed that even the Senns do harden over time. It's really encouraging! I got your point about framing under glass too. And btw, thanks for the feedback on the varnish. I think I don't like the glare either...
I'm not 100% certain on how much surface plays a part on the drying time. I demonstrated hard panel, paper and canvas board and those surfaces are unique and take in the oil pastel differently. I think the key thing is leaving it out in open air to dry for as long as possible is a more important factor. And I also feel climate will play a big role. For example I live in a relatively mild, dry and cool climate. Doesn't get humid and hot here like other places. I think that plays into it as well. Someone who lives in a very warm, humid/hot climate will probably see longer drying times. Perhaps having a fan constantly blowing air on it would aid in faster drying time.
Thanks for sharing this information. Do you think you could use a hair dryer to speed up the drying time for oil pastel which was used over an acrylic background? THank you for your thoughts.
Hello. hair dryer won't speed up the drying. It might make it worse. I would suggest to just let it sit for a month , then use a final fixative to seal it.
Great artwork! I know Sennelier do an excellent fixative for oil pastels. The only reason I would personally use a fixative with oil pastels is much the same as one of the reasons to varnish oil standard paintings - dust. It ingrains in the oil and can give a “crusty” feel, and over the decades the colours will dull.
Thank you! I agree with using fixative for long term protection. How much to apply I guess is a personal choice. I like enough fix so that it's smudge proof. And still feel that framing behind glass is the best.
A lot of great information Rich...thanks. I'm new to oil pastel and I found your video very useful. I primarily work in oil and acrylic and wanted to try oil pastel but was concerned about the drying issue. You've alleviated many of my concerns. Sennelier has a fixative specifically for oil pastel and I was wondering if you've tried it. Also do you know if a matte spray varnish would offer protection. By the way your paintings are beautiful!!!
Thank you James!! I absolutely love the sennelier fixative and feel it is the best one out there for oil pastels. The issue with it for me is $ cost. It is nearly $20 for a can while the Krylon matte finish fixative is $10. The Sennelier fixative is a gloss finish and I really like how it pops the color and contrasts...
For most of my work, I use the Krylon. It takes several passes to get good protection though. I have recently used Liquitex Satin Varnish and loved the results. I should probably make a video on this. -> I started with Kyrlon matte fixative and applied several layers to the point where I could run my fingers across without getting color on them. Then the liquitex satin varnish on top of that. This gave me the best overall protection.
@@raizes thanks for replying to my question. The information you gave me helps very much. Have a great weekend.
Great video! I love painting on canvas board and wood. Your work is beautiful. Do you always leave the edges of the wood natural or do you occasionally paint them? I’ve done one painting on round pine and painted the edges but I like the natural look on yours too. As a side note I ruined an oil pastel painting with the spectrum spray so I got a fine mist bottle from Jerry’s and tried it again, same issue. I think it’s just the consistency of the liquid. Seems little droplets escape no matter the bottle type. I really appreciate this video, the information is super helpful. Thank you!
Thanks. I usually just leave the edges of wood natural. I prefer that look. I had same issue with the spectrum spray
Did you use the workable fixative on the paintings you showed? Do you think it increases the drying time?
Thanks Rich was not going to invest in oil pastels because of the non dry issue. Changed my mind now Sennilier here I come. Just one thing did you gesso before using them on your wood surfaces and also if I wanted to fix or varnish when would I do ie when completely dry. And which one would you recommend. Thanks again and awesome work by the way. :)
Hello and thank you! I don't gesso the wood panels, because they come already with gesso on them. I have used oil pastels on cork tile without a gesso and that works great. The texture of the cork really works well with oil pastel...I'll make a video on "oil pastels on cork" soon. ...More on fixative. Here's what I recommend. Give your oil pastel finished piece about a week to "setup". Then apply the fixative. 3 coats is good > I like Krylon matte Finish fixative the best for this part> It will "dry" out the surface and instead of sticky, waxy, the surface will feel dry and possibly dusty.. let the fixative dry between each coat. So spray on a light coat, then wait for 10 minutes, Do another coat, then wait for 10 minutes..do another coat and wait for 10 minutes...etc. etc. You can keep doing layers of fixative, letting each layer dry between applications. The more layers of fixative will equal greater protection. The krylon matte finish does not change the colors. If you want a gloss finish, then I recommend the Sennelier fixative or the Grumbacher Gloss brilliant final fixative. I plan on making another video on fixative and using fixative with oil pastels. I've learned more. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@raizes Thankyou so much for the information Rich. Cheers
Love the paintings you showed! I wondered if you ever use a blending medium like mineral spirits, baby oil, or linseed oil and if it affects the drying time also? Did you say you used some Mungyo OP also? Thanks for posting!
S Wil Thanks again! I’ve used turpenoid before with oil pastel. Creates a nice thin layer, translucent and spreads the color out very easily. If it’s thin enough, it will dry much faster. Haven’t tried linseed or baby oil. And I do use mungyo gallery soft oil pastel. (Artist quality version).
@@raizes I will have to try that. I am looking forward to watching some more of your tutorials. I love that you talked about your experience on your vacation. Also the workable fixative part was awesome! Thank you!
I would love to hear more about your experience painting on cork tile. I assume you primed with gesso? Was that difficult? Your work is very inspiring!
Thank you! I didn't use gesso. Don't need to with cork. In fact the texture of the cork is perfect for oil pastels. I'll be making a full length tutorial on cork pretty soon.
So, the bottom line is, if an oil pastel painting is left open to the oxygen, it will definitely harden over time. But if it's in glassine paper (which is unfortunately inevitable once you have many relatively fresh paintings at a time), the drying process is really slowed down. Right? When you send your paintings wrapped in glassine paper to your customers, what advice do you give them on handling the painting?
That seems to be the case. If left out, oil pastel does harden up over time. However that could take 6 months or more. If it's wrapped in glassine or wax paper, then that drying time seems to significantly increase. What I tell my customers is to NOT touch the surface and not hang where direct sunlight will hit it. I also include a mat and most often that is double mat, so that if they do want to put it behind glass, the matting creates separation from the surface of the painting and the glass.
I love oilpastels, too. I hate the dust of softpastels. Oilpastels are so creamy. I blend them with safflower oil, it hardens the oilpastels completely. My only Problem is that I use them on sanded paper (it grabs the Pigments best) but after drying the surface ist still rough because of the tooth and lint gets a Problem. :-( So I have to seal although the colour doesn‘t rub off. But I hate the toxic fume of varnish. Do you have an idea what I could do?
use baby oil, most safe and works the same pretty much
@@mrsmarshmallow15 thank you, I did this. But it never dried completely.
But now I try out Poppy oil
Thank you very much - is workable fixative a necessity- ? how can we avoid it ? Because these fixatives are made of harmful toxic elements-
Workable fixative is not a necessity. Sometimes I can just let the painting set up for a day or two and then come back to it and I can usually get additional layers. The workable fixative is great when things get real slippery
I invite you to look at a TH-cam Video called, "Swamp Battle Sketch." It was done using Oil Pastels and Colored Pencils drawn on an 11"x 14" matboard. It's a heroic jungle fantasy illustration along the lines of "Tarzan."
I'm interested in what you think about it.
I'm assuming you are attaching pastel paper to the cork tile...Is that true? BTW-another great video:) great work:)
Thanks 🙏🏼. Nope I’m using oil pastel directly on the cork tile. Works great 👍🏼
I have one more question actually... do I get it right that the dust did no harm to the paintings without fixative/framing over the years? You know, they say dust is the real harm to unprotected OP paintings. So this is an exaggeration, right?
PS: I would suggest to rename the video to a more catchy name like "Busting the myth on fragile OP paintings" or similar. English is not my first language so I can't suggest a really good one... but the video is a breakthru - people need to know about its unique content right from the name! ;)
Dust didn't harm my paintings. The autumn painting with the trees was a little dusty, but I just kinda wiped it off with my hands. Even up close, the dust didn't seem to cause damage or become a factor in how the colors present themselves. II think one of those little hand held vacuums with the brush at the end of the nozzle would be helpful to remove dust if that became a factor. Also just framing it under glass is gonna give the best protection from dust.
Sennelier fixative spray is the answer to all concerns...
Definitely! It is the best
Just don't listen to the swatch painters out there Rich, they are a dime a dozen and 99% of the time they don't know shit.