@@amc6169 Muldrotha with the Mind Slicer play had pretty much denied everyone else from having options to play against her. When you become the Archenemy, this is what happens, you either stay on top of the hill and win, or someone else does because they were still focusing on you.
Glad to see Roon on the channel. One of my favorite decks to play. I wish it wasn't a recording from so long ago as I would like to see how it plays with the new exile rule. My favorite card from Roon has to be Perplexing Chimera. If you have it out with Seedborn Muse it is just game over. Your opponents will have a very hard time resolving spells against you and it gets past Cavern of Souls because it doesn't counter the spell. I used it one time to take someones Surrak Commander and when they said it didn't work cause it can't be countered. I said "I know, Im not countering it. It's my spell." Im the evil one in my play group. 😈
This game is yet another example of tunnel vision, where people focus on one player so much that they ignore the other player until it's too late. Roon + Seedborn Muse is a nasty engine that's hard to deal with once it's online, way harder than Muldrotha's graveyard shenanigans.
Quick note, when you sacrifice world shaper to altar of dementia the death trigger goes off first since sacrificing is the payment. You wouldn't get any lands you mill with altar
Getting back into mtg and have been playing muldrotha the last couple weeks with friends. i have been trying to figure out a build but since i haven't played since ravnica, i dont know very many cards. any way you would be able to post evil adam's muldrotha deck? i really liked the way it looked and what it was doing.
This would've an interesting game, if the whole table hasn't teammed up to stop Evil Adam. By doing this, Kevin build up his board with no one else caring about it, and took the game.
MullyD always draws signifigant hate. Most people just assume that you are milling into... "something". Generally, Muldrotha decks are some of the slowest put there, as the commander itself is neither a combo piece nor a value engine (card draw/effect tjat alters the board state). If you've been bojuka bogged, Muldrotha is a vanilla 6/6 for 6, so the removal spells are brutal. I'm surprised that we saw 0 protection on Adam's part. No force, no guardianship, no playful, no greaves nor boots, not even ascetism. He didn't draw particularly well, or perhaps he simply assumed nobody would waste removal on a vanilla 6/6 for 6 in a game of edh Honestly, siren storm tamer or even spellskite would have been incredible for adam, as he needed just one turn without Muldrotha being the exckusive target of every available removal spell in order to start playing his deck.
@@bodaciouschad this wasn't some budget brew. He has some spicy stuff in that graveyard. All Adam needed was one turn with his commander and mana and he would have gotten out of control. He had already mind slicered people's hands and he had a guilded drake. If he stole Rune to turn off Kevin's value engine, the 3v1 would have been a tough battle due to muldratha's card advantage vs 3 decks that were topdecking. I don't think anyone messed up threat assessment, it was a game of top decking after the mind slicer went off and Kevin got good draws.
And actually, Adam could have cast the guilded drake the turn he played the rhystic study (he discarded it at the end of that turn). That's a misplay with the woodfall primus and roon on the board. Adam should have focused on turning off Kevin's control rather than attempting to be greedy
Just wondering, but how are you choosing which games to turn into featuring episodes? I've seen/noted that quite a few can be a bit old. Love your content btw, I tend to watch atleast one before I sleep to wind down.
If you want to be really mean you can combine the flicker stuff with stax effects like Winter Orb, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, Smoke Stack, ect. By flickering your stuff you can play arround the stax effects pretty well. But you will become the Archenemy of the table very quickly ;-)
Hey Andrew. Love your channel. I was wondering, im not sure if you are from Québec or Ontario but parle tu francais? Im from Montreal and you said in this video that someone (forgot the name) has move to Quebec city. Just curious 😜
When E-Adam first sacrificed the Worldshaper to the Altar of Dementia, the returning lands shouldn't include the freshly milled swamp, as the activated ability would resolve after the triggered one, no?
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Fred could actually have wiped most of Kevin's board with Grave Pact, if he was willing to sacrifice all of his own creatures and responded to Kevin's triggers with more Viscera Seer activations (and stacked Deathbloom Thallid's trigger above Grave Pact). For instance, during Adam's turn 8, around 10:00, while Roon was tapped and Woodfall Primus hadn't returned yet. Fred could have sacrificed a creature, then four more in response to the Body Double/Protean Hulk trigger, leaving Kevin with only the Primus and whatever he tutored with the Hulk trigger. It would have left Fred in a bad position, but Kevin wouldn't have immediately buried them all with Roon value, and everyone would probably have gone back to ignoring Fred for a while.
As a fellow Muldrotha player, I can attest that Adam's experience as archenemy is rather common for many Muldrotha players. Their opponents just see alot of cards and assume that something will happen, despite MullyD being a vanilla 6/6 for 6 if you bojuka bog them just once. I suggest that Adam include ascetism, siren stormtamer and fierce gaurdianship to avoid future issues with undue removal being thrown his way.
I discuss it at the game review, but: Because I was worried that would shut off Kevin's deck. We needed him to help deal with Evil Adam, but by the time I wanted to cast the Orb, Adam had made us discard it.
I already get preemptively annoyed seeing Muldrotha, but then he had mindlslicer in his hand? Super annoyed. Lol Edit: Muldrotha got everything coming to it. Sorry Adam. It’s not you it’s the deck.
The threat assessment here is awful. It seems like you always let one person go unscathed for the entire game. You should work on threat assessment. I knew immediately that roon was going to win once you countered muldrotha and let room hit the field. I was rooting for Muldrotha or room those those color pies are so strong.
Who thinks Casual Commander should be its own format? I'm fine with people playing competitive, but extremely competitive cards should be banned from Casual Games such as: Tabernacle APV, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Stacks and Armageddons.
I can never understand why anyone would post an entire game that's just one player playing the entire time and everyone else attempting to catch up, it just isn't entertaining
That's a mighty funny looking red Forest in slimefoot's opener
Huh, it looks like mountain, naah must be my imagination
A fountain, forest-mountain
LOL
Cool art
Is that an alter?
Yeah the new art is crazy
I feel you Adam, I too have tried to Strip Mine a Seedborn Muse....
I have used enchantment removal twice thus far on a seedborn muse thinking its an echantment creature dont know why
I came here to comment on that play Haha... what was he thinking!?
Feels like Kevin vs Evil Adam. And Fred and Muddstah are also there.
Good Old Roon.
Watching Muldrotha get slapped around was glorious.
Made me kinda sad Muldrotha had to fight 3v1, seems a little unfair smh
@@amc6169 Muldrotha with the Mind Slicer play had pretty much denied everyone else from having options to play against her.
When you become the Archenemy, this is what happens, you either stay on top of the hill and win, or someone else does because they were still focusing on you.
Glad to see Roon on the channel. One of my favorite decks to play. I wish it wasn't a recording from so long ago as I would like to see how it plays with the new exile rule. My favorite card from Roon has to be Perplexing Chimera. If you have it out with Seedborn Muse it is just game over. Your opponents will have a very hard time resolving spells against you and it gets past Cavern of Souls because it doesn't counter the spell. I used it one time to take someones Surrak Commander and when they said it didn't work cause it can't be countered. I said "I know, Im not countering it. It's my spell." Im the evil one in my play group. 😈
I just noticed that Adam's life counter says Evil Adam I love the details on the video.
I mean, that's his name!
As somebody who owns a Muldrotha deck, she is definitely a kill-on-sight permanent. You guys did well keeping her in check.
This game is yet another example of tunnel vision, where people focus on one player so much that they ignore the other player until it's too late. Roon + Seedborn Muse is a nasty engine that's hard to deal with once it's online, way harder than Muldrotha's graveyard shenanigans.
I honestly think that the problem was more that two of the players were doing nothing. Roon basically dealt with Muldrotha alone
Man I miss having Evil Adam on the channel, it's good to see them back!
It's not quite the return of Evil Adam we were hoping for but I will take it! Great video like always Muddstah!
I didn’t think this was a new video at first because I swore I’ve seen this exact thumbnail before
We've played these decks often in the past, haha!
slimefoot : *mountain on deck*
Golgari : saprolings can't climb mountains kid get back here
Slimefoot was my first commander so I always love watching gameplay of him :)
Great game and very well played by Kevin, Muldrotha is kill on sight type of commander.
This was really weird to watch, because whenever I try to play Roon, he eats removal before he can blink anything.
I feel you i have a derevi blink deck like public enemy nr1.
Quick note, when you sacrifice world shaper to altar of dementia the death trigger goes off first since sacrificing is the payment. You wouldn't get any lands you mill with altar
Getting back into mtg and have been playing muldrotha the last couple weeks with friends. i have been trying to figure out a build but since i haven't played since ravnica, i dont know very many cards. any way you would be able to post evil adam's muldrotha deck? i really liked the way it looked and what it was doing.
So glad to see evil adam once more
That’s quite the interesting forest in Fred’s opening hand.
That Slimefoot deck is sweet! Wish I knew what the list was. T_T
You can't use exploration to let you play multiple lands from grave with muldrotha since she restricts it to 1 permanent per turn of each type
correct, you can play 1 from hand and 1 from graveyard per turn though.
O asked for Evil Adan last vídeo. Nice see he again !!!
Evil Adam Returned!!!!!
Nope, old game before he moved out. :/
@@DarkEinherjar mtg muddstah said that in the opening hands
idk if im blind or something, wut allowed evil adam to play the marsh flats after playing the bloodstained mire at 5:08. was it cuz hes evil?
This would've an interesting game, if the whole table hasn't teammed up to stop Evil Adam. By doing this, Kevin build up his board with no one else caring about it, and took the game.
MullyD always draws signifigant hate. Most people just assume that you are milling into... "something". Generally, Muldrotha decks are some of the slowest put there, as the commander itself is neither a combo piece nor a value engine (card draw/effect tjat alters the board state). If you've been bojuka bogged, Muldrotha is a vanilla 6/6 for 6, so the removal spells are brutal. I'm surprised that we saw 0 protection on Adam's part. No force, no guardianship, no playful, no greaves nor boots, not even ascetism. He didn't draw particularly well, or perhaps he simply assumed nobody would waste removal on a vanilla 6/6 for 6 in a game of edh
Honestly, siren storm tamer or even spellskite would have been incredible for adam, as he needed just one turn without Muldrotha being the exckusive target of every available removal spell in order to start playing his deck.
@@bodaciouschad this wasn't some budget brew. He has some spicy stuff in that graveyard. All Adam needed was one turn with his commander and mana and he would have gotten out of control. He had already mind slicered people's hands and he had a guilded drake. If he stole Rune to turn off Kevin's value engine, the 3v1 would have been a tough battle due to muldratha's card advantage vs 3 decks that were topdecking. I don't think anyone messed up threat assessment, it was a game of top decking after the mind slicer went off and Kevin got good draws.
And actually, Adam could have cast the guilded drake the turn he played the rhystic study (he discarded it at the end of that turn). That's a misplay with the woodfall primus and roon on the board. Adam should have focused on turning off Kevin's control rather than attempting to be greedy
No they made the right call. Muldrotha is a kill on sight.
Evolutional Blades you clearly don’t know how a good muldrotha deck works. She’s a kill/counter immediately commander every time
@mtgmuddstah I really want to see the muldrotha Decklist. If it is somehow possible it would be great :D
Thanks for the great content!
World Shaper death trigger would happen before Altar mills. I think I saw a swamp sneak in with the mill before he put it into play
Came to say the same, but updoots for you instead.
An Evil Adam game... IT'S BEEN 3.000 YEARS... /AZ
Yesss! I've missed Evil Adam , This has made my day.
Anyone know what those life counters, fred and evil adam are using are?
Evil Adam makes them. I think he has an Etsy shop somewhere. I will try to find you a link.
@@MTGMuddstah I no longer sell those.
He is not feigning the stifle with Roon. You can counter the delayed trigger of the commander coming back in leaving it in exile.
the return of evil adam!!
Wait, Seedborn Muse isn't a land? I've been playing Magic wrong this entire time
Just wondering, but how are you choosing which games to turn into featuring episodes? I've seen/noted that quite a few can be a bit old. Love your content btw, I tend to watch atleast one before I sleep to wind down.
Why does Andrew call him Evil Adam? Just curious I've only watched a few of these games
So excited to see slimefoot! My favorite commander 💕💕
My Slimefoot always plays like this. Doing very little to effect the board. Such a fun commander but it just never fires and idk why.
Noo I'm looking for some solid Roon decklists. I have a pile of cards for bang flicker, just not sure what I want to add in
If you want to be really mean you can combine the flicker stuff with stax effects like Winter Orb, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, Smoke Stack, ect.
By flickering your stuff you can play arround the stax effects pretty well. But you will become the Archenemy of the table very quickly ;-)
Hey Andrew. Love your channel. I was wondering, im not sure if you are from Québec or Ontario but parle tu francais? Im from Montreal and you said in this video that someone (forgot the name) has move to Quebec city. Just curious 😜
Oui, mais ma langue maternale sont Anglais.
What happened to the decklists?
When E-Adam first sacrificed the Worldshaper to the Altar of Dementia, the returning lands shouldn't include the freshly milled swamp, as the activated ability would resolve after the triggered one, no?
Quick question on the giveaway: I made an order that was over $10 then used your discount code and it dropped it just below $10, am I still entered? I didn’t get a notification
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MTG Muddstah Thank you! Your videos are getting me back into the game.
So sad that evil Adam's muldrotha decklist is not available, would love to see what spice that deck is made of
Fred could actually have wiped most of Kevin's board with Grave Pact, if he was willing to sacrifice all of his own creatures and responded to Kevin's triggers with more Viscera Seer activations (and stacked Deathbloom Thallid's trigger above Grave Pact). For instance, during Adam's turn 8, around 10:00, while Roon was tapped and Woodfall Primus hadn't returned yet. Fred could have sacrificed a creature, then four more in response to the Body Double/Protean Hulk trigger, leaving Kevin with only the Primus and whatever he tutored with the Hulk trigger. It would have left Fred in a bad position, but Kevin wouldn't have immediately buried them all with Roon value, and everyone would probably have gone back to ignoring Fred for a while.
Yeah I play Muldrotha I understand how powerful she can be, but on the other hand that was just targeting if I’ve ever seen it.
1:28 is that the new forest/mountain from jumpstart, that have colors of one and appears to be other?
@@xChikyx probably, but in context of latest misprints from jumpstart it looks kinda hilarious
As a fellow Muldrotha player, I can attest that Adam's experience as archenemy is rather common for many Muldrotha players. Their opponents just see alot of cards and assume that something will happen, despite MullyD being a vanilla 6/6 for 6 if you bojuka bog them just once. I suggest that Adam include ascetism, siren stormtamer and fierce gaurdianship to avoid future issues with undue removal being thrown his way.
“Vanilla 6/6” yeah okay there bud
Altered forest or a new and better version of Taiga?
I have to agree with you, Torpor Orb Should have been cast =)
what kinda sleeves is evil adam using, they look so bad, it pains me
Why’d evil Adam leave?
He moved out of city, he's now in a small city where I play with him :)
Andrew why you didn't play "Torbor Orp" at turn two?
I discuss it at the game review, but: Because I was worried that would shut off Kevin's deck. We needed him to help deal with Evil Adam, but by the time I wanted to cast the Orb, Adam had made us discard it.
@@MTGMuddstah Rule number 1 in magic : always deal with Evil Adam last.
Uploaded 45 seconds ago...just came home from work, so that's lucky :)
Oh, and of course: FIRST!
TIME AND SPACE ARE JUST NEW BATTLEFIELDS TO BE MASTERED
Love to see Roon getting some love. Definitely my favorite commander!
Did someone say powerlevel disparity?
I guess?
For real tho
Kevin is the hero the table deserved!
This is a great example of why I own half a Muldrotha deck and havent pulled the trigger in finishing it... so much hate
Spore frog
Love the music
I already get preemptively annoyed seeing Muldrotha, but then he had mindlslicer in his hand? Super annoyed. Lol
Edit:
Muldrotha got everything coming to it. Sorry Adam. It’s not you it’s the deck.
Muldrotha is awesome
Kevin...
What did Adam do to hurt you so much?
That Roon deck tho >.>
Poor Fred, playing such a fair deck...
Fred is legitimately Kevin's best friend isn't he?
Fred is play Slimefoot?
Another Zedruu video with no donating......
That’s a real pretty Underground Sea
just a french black border sadly.
letting kevin develop his board so easily seemed like a terrible choice.so much value from all those blinks
Fred is the playmat winner for me!
Evil Adam did pretty well for a 3v1
Neat
1:27 that is sure a very fiery Forest
Wtf? So basically Fred helped Kevin win by all of his choices.
Seems pretty bad to have people gang on Muldrotha when the Roon player is going nuts.
Why not just run manzarek as your commander? I mean slimefoot is fun and all, I have a slimefoot deck too, but that's because I don't own a manzarek.
Roon decklist pleaaaase
Muldrotha can only play one land even if exploration is out
Fred aint playing slimefoot, hes playing generically good golgari
So many games ended by not stopping seedborn muse
I thought the body double was a hostage taker
Fred won Kevin the game.
#GiveSlimefootInfect
The threat assessment here is awful. It seems like you always let one person go unscathed for the entire game. You should work on threat assessment. I knew immediately that roon was going to win once you countered muldrotha and let room hit the field. I was rooting for Muldrotha or room those those color pies are so strong.
Who thinks Casual Commander should be its own format? I'm fine with people playing competitive, but extremely competitive cards should be banned from Casual Games such as: Tabernacle APV, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Stacks and Armageddons.
That's why players should communicate beforehand.
You mean CEDH should be its own format. Commander is casual.
I can never understand why anyone would post an entire game that's just one player playing the entire time and everyone else attempting to catch up, it just isn't entertaining
Because sometimes that's just how EDH goes? Also, I'm working through my backlog of games. Some of them aren't edge-of-the-seat riveting like others.
MTG Muddstah I’m sorry it just feels like Muldrotha got bullied there I was truly waiting for Roon to Start Woodfall Triggers on his lands
Recruiter tutor. Lolz
Adam deserved everything he got for the early Mindslicer play. Making everyone discard their hand on turn 4 is just not good sportsmanship.
Sultai decks are so boring
They do indeed feel all the same
Roon is such a stupid annoying deck, this game highlights why I go after Roon players immediately everytime I am in a pod with one.