Zedruu vs Roon vs Slimefoot vs Muldrotha EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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ความคิดเห็น • 141

  • @djrafikii559
    @djrafikii559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    That's a mighty funny looking red Forest in slimefoot's opener

    • @piranha9411
      @piranha9411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Huh, it looks like mountain, naah must be my imagination

    • @Magistarorian
      @Magistarorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      A fountain, forest-mountain

    • @tanphuoclam9683
      @tanphuoclam9683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL

    • @fenixmeaney6170
      @fenixmeaney6170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cool art
      Is that an alter?

    • @ZacHolyMage
      @ZacHolyMage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah the new art is crazy

  • @DivinePenguin00
    @DivinePenguin00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I feel you Adam, I too have tried to Strip Mine a Seedborn Muse....

    • @boempower
      @boempower 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have used enchantment removal twice thus far on a seedborn muse thinking its an echantment creature dont know why

    • @baulsmahoney
      @baulsmahoney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I came here to comment on that play Haha... what was he thinking!?

  • @GeorgeAlone2277
    @GeorgeAlone2277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Feels like Kevin vs Evil Adam. And Fred and Muddstah are also there.

  • @faerie7dragon
    @faerie7dragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Good Old Roon.
    Watching Muldrotha get slapped around was glorious.

    • @amc6169
      @amc6169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Made me kinda sad Muldrotha had to fight 3v1, seems a little unfair smh

    • @faerie7dragon
      @faerie7dragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@amc6169 Muldrotha with the Mind Slicer play had pretty much denied everyone else from having options to play against her.
      When you become the Archenemy, this is what happens, you either stay on top of the hill and win, or someone else does because they were still focusing on you.

  • @SvviftDeath
    @SvviftDeath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to see Roon on the channel. One of my favorite decks to play. I wish it wasn't a recording from so long ago as I would like to see how it plays with the new exile rule. My favorite card from Roon has to be Perplexing Chimera. If you have it out with Seedborn Muse it is just game over. Your opponents will have a very hard time resolving spells against you and it gets past Cavern of Souls because it doesn't counter the spell. I used it one time to take someones Surrak Commander and when they said it didn't work cause it can't be countered. I said "I know, Im not countering it. It's my spell." Im the evil one in my play group. 😈

  • @sebastiancorrales6313
    @sebastiancorrales6313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just noticed that Adam's life counter says Evil Adam I love the details on the video.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean, that's his name!

  • @Quroe_
    @Quroe_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As somebody who owns a Muldrotha deck, she is definitely a kill-on-sight permanent. You guys did well keeping her in check.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This game is yet another example of tunnel vision, where people focus on one player so much that they ignore the other player until it's too late. Roon + Seedborn Muse is a nasty engine that's hard to deal with once it's online, way harder than Muldrotha's graveyard shenanigans.

    • @zordzao95
      @zordzao95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I honestly think that the problem was more that two of the players were doing nothing. Roon basically dealt with Muldrotha alone

  • @karlmenger6018
    @karlmenger6018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    slimefoot : *mountain on deck*
    Golgari : saprolings can't climb mountains kid get back here

  • @spenceriglinski4771
    @spenceriglinski4771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I miss having Evil Adam on the channel, it's good to see them back!

  • @notsuspiciousthejudgmental2423
    @notsuspiciousthejudgmental2423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn’t think this was a new video at first because I swore I’ve seen this exact thumbnail before

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We've played these decks often in the past, haha!

  • @TheG4urdian
    @TheG4urdian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's not quite the return of Evil Adam we were hoping for but I will take it! Great video like always Muddstah!

  • @Eastside97
    @Eastside97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Slimefoot was my first commander so I always love watching gameplay of him :)

  • @corhydrae3238
    @corhydrae3238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was really weird to watch, because whenever I try to play Roon, he eats removal before he can blink anything.

    • @nayleen3240
      @nayleen3240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel you i have a derevi blink deck like public enemy nr1.

  • @vader1137
    @vader1137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This would've an interesting game, if the whole table hasn't teammed up to stop Evil Adam. By doing this, Kevin build up his board with no one else caring about it, and took the game.

    • @bodaciouschad
      @bodaciouschad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      MullyD always draws signifigant hate. Most people just assume that you are milling into... "something". Generally, Muldrotha decks are some of the slowest put there, as the commander itself is neither a combo piece nor a value engine (card draw/effect tjat alters the board state). If you've been bojuka bogged, Muldrotha is a vanilla 6/6 for 6, so the removal spells are brutal. I'm surprised that we saw 0 protection on Adam's part. No force, no guardianship, no playful, no greaves nor boots, not even ascetism. He didn't draw particularly well, or perhaps he simply assumed nobody would waste removal on a vanilla 6/6 for 6 in a game of edh
      Honestly, siren storm tamer or even spellskite would have been incredible for adam, as he needed just one turn without Muldrotha being the exckusive target of every available removal spell in order to start playing his deck.

    • @andrewpeli9019
      @andrewpeli9019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bodaciouschad this wasn't some budget brew. He has some spicy stuff in that graveyard. All Adam needed was one turn with his commander and mana and he would have gotten out of control. He had already mind slicered people's hands and he had a guilded drake. If he stole Rune to turn off Kevin's value engine, the 3v1 would have been a tough battle due to muldratha's card advantage vs 3 decks that were topdecking. I don't think anyone messed up threat assessment, it was a game of top decking after the mind slicer went off and Kevin got good draws.

    • @andrewpeli9019
      @andrewpeli9019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And actually, Adam could have cast the guilded drake the turn he played the rhystic study (he discarded it at the end of that turn). That's a misplay with the woodfall primus and roon on the board. Adam should have focused on turning off Kevin's control rather than attempting to be greedy

    • @spencersonnier1
      @spencersonnier1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No they made the right call. Muldrotha is a kill on sight.

    • @shundo8460
      @shundo8460 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evolutional Blades you clearly don’t know how a good muldrotha deck works. She’s a kill/counter immediately commander every time

  • @tocadogoblin7305
    @tocadogoblin7305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    O asked for Evil Adan last vídeo. Nice see he again !!!

  • @caylemmcdonald353
    @caylemmcdonald353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can't use exploration to let you play multiple lands from grave with muldrotha since she restricts it to 1 permanent per turn of each type

    • @adams333
      @adams333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      correct, you can play 1 from hand and 1 from graveyard per turn though.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An Evil Adam game... IT'S BEEN 3.000 YEARS... /AZ

  • @user-ww3js8ci7d
    @user-ww3js8ci7d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s quite the interesting forest in Fred’s opening hand.

  • @adamfudge9248
    @adamfudge9248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Evil Adam Returned!!!!!

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, old game before he moved out. :/

    • @behemoth1158
      @behemoth1158 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkEinherjar mtg muddstah said that in the opening hands

  • @HenriqueLima-dw8yn
    @HenriqueLima-dw8yn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad to see evil adam once more

  • @johnmichaelbushman
    @johnmichaelbushman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Slimefoot deck is sweet! Wish I knew what the list was. T_T

  • @adansalas9575
    @adansalas9575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting back into mtg and have been playing muldrotha the last couple weeks with friends. i have been trying to figure out a build but since i haven't played since ravnica, i dont know very many cards. any way you would be able to post evil adam's muldrotha deck? i really liked the way it looked and what it was doing.

  • @christophwehrmann892
    @christophwehrmann892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @mtgmuddstah I really want to see the muldrotha Decklist. If it is somehow possible it would be great :D

  • @smolclips5996
    @smolclips5996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick note, when you sacrifice world shaper to altar of dementia the death trigger goes off first since sacrificing is the payment. You wouldn't get any lands you mill with altar

  • @joelhuet5302
    @joelhuet5302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Andrew. Love your channel. I was wondering, im not sure if you are from Québec or Ontario but parle tu francais? Im from Montreal and you said in this video that someone (forgot the name) has move to Quebec city. Just curious 😜

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oui, mais ma langue maternale sont Anglais.

  • @rowrow_
    @rowrow_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    World Shaper death trigger would happen before Altar mills. I think I saw a swamp sneak in with the mill before he put it into play

    • @tetrisgoat
      @tetrisgoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Came to say the same, but updoots for you instead.

  • @VincentAlucard
    @VincentAlucard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great game and very well played by Kevin, Muldrotha is kill on sight type of commander.

  • @FaustTheThird
    @FaustTheThird 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the return of evil adam!!

  • @thevoiceoftreason3856
    @thevoiceoftreason3856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is not feigning the stifle with Roon. You can counter the delayed trigger of the commander coming back in leaving it in exile.

  • @RunninOnYT
    @RunninOnYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wondering, but how are you choosing which games to turn into featuring episodes? I've seen/noted that quite a few can be a bit old. Love your content btw, I tend to watch atleast one before I sleep to wind down.

  • @rorykitchen2727
    @rorykitchen2727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the great content!

  • @TheBigDirty716
    @TheBigDirty716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great example of why I own half a Muldrotha deck and havent pulled the trigger in finishing it... so much hate

  • @_OldWorldCharm_
    @_OldWorldCharm_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Quick question on the giveaway: I made an order that was over $10 then used your discount code and it dropped it just below $10, am I still entered? I didn’t get a notification

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I've asked my contact and he says you'll be entered.

    • @_OldWorldCharm_
      @_OldWorldCharm_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MTG Muddstah Thank you! Your videos are getting me back into the game.

  • @bodaciouschad
    @bodaciouschad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a fellow Muldrotha player, I can attest that Adam's experience as archenemy is rather common for many Muldrotha players. Their opponents just see alot of cards and assume that something will happen, despite MullyD being a vanilla 6/6 for 6 if you bojuka bog them just once. I suggest that Adam include ascetism, siren stormtamer and fierce gaurdianship to avoid future issues with undue removal being thrown his way.

    • @shundo8460
      @shundo8460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “Vanilla 6/6” yeah okay there bud

  • @NMS127
    @NMS127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fred could actually have wiped most of Kevin's board with Grave Pact, if he was willing to sacrifice all of his own creatures and responded to Kevin's triggers with more Viscera Seer activations (and stacked Deathbloom Thallid's trigger above Grave Pact). For instance, during Adam's turn 8, around 10:00, while Roon was tapped and Woodfall Primus hadn't returned yet. Fred could have sacrificed a creature, then four more in response to the Body Double/Protean Hulk trigger, leaving Kevin with only the Primus and whatever he tutored with the Hulk trigger. It would have left Fred in a bad position, but Kevin wouldn't have immediately buried them all with Roon value, and everyone would probably have gone back to ignoring Fred for a while.

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, Seedborn Muse isn't a land? I've been playing Magic wrong this entire time

  • @MstrKipper
    @MstrKipper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Noo I'm looking for some solid Roon decklists. I have a pile of cards for bang flicker, just not sure what I want to add in

    • @EvilShade82
      @EvilShade82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you want to be really mean you can combine the flicker stuff with stax effects like Winter Orb, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, Smoke Stack, ect.
      By flickering your stuff you can play arround the stax effects pretty well. But you will become the Archenemy of the table very quickly ;-)

  • @SAMMY333222111
    @SAMMY333222111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited to see slimefoot! My favorite commander 💕💕

  • @IAMYETTI25
    @IAMYETTI25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does Andrew call him Evil Adam? Just curious I've only watched a few of these games

  • @Mr.Kronk2
    @Mr.Kronk2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So sad that evil Adam's muldrotha decklist is not available, would love to see what spice that deck is made of

  • @YORELEYNAK
    @YORELEYNAK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yesss! I've missed Evil Adam , This has made my day.

  • @GiovanniBoss
    @GiovanniBoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When E-Adam first sacrificed the Worldshaper to the Altar of Dementia, the returning lands shouldn't include the freshly milled swamp, as the activated ability would resolve after the triggered one, no?

  • @johnrife913
    @johnrife913 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I play Muldrotha I understand how powerful she can be, but on the other hand that was just targeting if I’ve ever seen it.

  • @adams333
    @adams333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to agree with you, Torpor Orb Should have been cast =)

  • @TempestGuy02
    @TempestGuy02 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk if im blind or something, wut allowed evil adam to play the marsh flats after playing the bloodstained mire at 5:08. was it cuz hes evil?

  • @Xeno-MTG
    @Xeno-MTG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Uploaded 45 seconds ago...just came home from work, so that's lucky :)
    Oh, and of course: FIRST!

  • @oxblaid9953
    @oxblaid9953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Slimefoot always plays like this. Doing very little to effect the board. Such a fun commander but it just never fires and idk why.

  • @andyspendlove1019
    @andyspendlove1019 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Fred, playing such a fair deck...

  • @ivorymantis1026
    @ivorymantis1026 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fred is legitimately Kevin's best friend isn't he?

  • @Zerschnitzler77
    @Zerschnitzler77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    TIME AND SPACE ARE JUST NEW BATTLEFIELDS TO BE MASTERED

  • @gofish5
    @gofish5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the music

  • @Davidanchie
    @Davidanchie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kevin is the hero the table deserved!

  • @erickwalter2828
    @erickwalter2828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did someone say powerlevel disparity?

  • @AexIV
    @AexIV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Altered forest or a new and better version of Taiga?

  • @ErikTheRedd1
    @ErikTheRedd1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kevin...
    What did Adam do to hurt you so much?

  • @apophis456
    @apophis456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neat

  • @Schiedog
    @Schiedog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why’d evil Adam leave?

    • @Crazy0101
      @Crazy0101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He moved out of city, he's now in a small city where I play with him :)

  • @nite_nerd
    @nite_nerd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what kinda sleeves is evil adam using, they look so bad, it pains me

  • @spencersonnier1
    @spencersonnier1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I already get preemptively annoyed seeing Muldrotha, but then he had mindlslicer in his hand? Super annoyed. Lol
    Edit:
    Muldrotha got everything coming to it. Sorry Adam. It’s not you it’s the deck.

    • @MultiTaz333
      @MultiTaz333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Muldrotha is awesome

  • @eonrequiem
    @eonrequiem 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Roon deck tho >.>

  • @garrett1433
    @garrett1433 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fred is the playmat winner for me!

  • @xxmerkutioxx
    @xxmerkutioxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s a real pretty Underground Sea

    • @adams333
      @adams333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      just a french black border sadly.

  • @tremackin
    @tremackin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evil Adam did pretty well for a 3v1

  • @tandencook2058
    @tandencook2058 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see Roon getting some love. Definitely my favorite commander!

  • @guhocampos2
    @guhocampos2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the decklists?

  • @davidharper142
    @davidharper142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know what those life counters, fred and evil adam are using are?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Evil Adam makes them. I think he has an Etsy shop somewhere. I will try to find you a link.

    • @adams333
      @adams333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTGMuddstah I no longer sell those.

  • @davidwinright8529
    @davidwinright8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fred is play Slimefoot?

  • @theramenboy
    @theramenboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andrew why you didn't play "Torbor Orp" at turn two?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I discuss it at the game review, but: Because I was worried that would shut off Kevin's deck. We needed him to help deal with Evil Adam, but by the time I wanted to cast the Orb, Adam had made us discard it.

    • @adams333
      @adams333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTGMuddstah Rule number 1 in magic : always deal with Evil Adam last.

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    letting kevin develop his board so easily seemed like a terrible choice.so much value from all those blinks

  • @luisfmallorquin
    @luisfmallorquin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roon decklist pleaaaase

  • @lordspider3958
    @lordspider3958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not just run manzarek as your commander? I mean slimefoot is fun and all, I have a slimefoot deck too, but that's because I don't own a manzarek.

  • @Taphosthewarlock
    @Taphosthewarlock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the body double was a hostage taker

  • @Masterinferno47
    @Masterinferno47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muldrotha can only play one land even if exploration is out

  • @samiam5308
    @samiam5308 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    #GiveSlimefootInfect

  • @dmgengar
    @dmgengar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28 is that the new forest/mountain from jumpstart, that have colors of one and appears to be other?

    • @dmgengar
      @dmgengar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xChikyx probably, but in context of latest misprints from jumpstart it looks kinda hilarious

  • @ImperialVersian
    @ImperialVersian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf? So basically Fred helped Kevin win by all of his choices.
    Seems pretty bad to have people gang on Muldrotha when the Roon player is going nuts.

  • @yorhey
    @yorhey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another Zedruu video with no donating......

  • @nickgraves7028
    @nickgraves7028 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many games ended by not stopping seedborn muse

  • @ryoujizero2909
    @ryoujizero2909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:27 that is sure a very fiery Forest

  • @Bunia257
    @Bunia257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fred won Kevin the game.

  • @makhond2498
    @makhond2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fred aint playing slimefoot, hes playing generically good golgari

  • @stevenlorenzo6540
    @stevenlorenzo6540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recruiter tutor. Lolz

  • @user-dy5fk8ff1v
    @user-dy5fk8ff1v 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can never understand why anyone would post an entire game that's just one player playing the entire time and everyone else attempting to catch up, it just isn't entertaining

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because sometimes that's just how EDH goes? Also, I'm working through my backlog of games. Some of them aren't edge-of-the-seat riveting like others.

    • @johnrife913
      @johnrife913 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      MTG Muddstah I’m sorry it just feels like Muldrotha got bullied there I was truly waiting for Roon to Start Woodfall Triggers on his lands

  • @rhainex5952
    @rhainex5952 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The threat assessment here is awful. It seems like you always let one person go unscathed for the entire game. You should work on threat assessment. I knew immediately that roon was going to win once you countered muldrotha and let room hit the field. I was rooting for Muldrotha or room those those color pies are so strong.

  • @blackmountain1983
    @blackmountain1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who thinks Casual Commander should be its own format? I'm fine with people playing competitive, but extremely competitive cards should be banned from Casual Games such as: Tabernacle APV, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Stacks and Armageddons.

    • @coreysierchio4650
      @coreysierchio4650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why players should communicate beforehand.

    • @orgazmo686971
      @orgazmo686971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean CEDH should be its own format. Commander is casual.

  • @Ufureg
    @Ufureg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sultai decks are so boring

    • @cosmotect
      @cosmotect 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do indeed feel all the same

  • @evafox9696
    @evafox9696 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adam deserved everything he got for the early Mindslicer play. Making everyone discard their hand on turn 4 is just not good sportsmanship.

  • @Arcdemon44
    @Arcdemon44 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roon is such a stupid annoying deck, this game highlights why I go after Roon players immediately everytime I am in a pod with one.