Bill Ackman Asks Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger How To Analyze Financial Statements

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  • @InvestorCenter
    @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

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    • @colinsmith6250
      @colinsmith6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @colinsmith6250
    @colinsmith6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +540

    Bill Ackman has come a long way since he was asking questions at Berkshire Hathaway meetings.

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      He really has!

    • @korylehman79
      @korylehman79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True!

    • @arabidaif1734
      @arabidaif1734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      All the way to being a fraud

    • @successfulusername
      @successfulusername 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@arabidaif1734 how so?

    • @arabidaif1734
      @arabidaif1734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@successfulusername look it up, look up his dodgy affair with herbal life it's all exposed live

  • @vedantmenkudale6271
    @vedantmenkudale6271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    The single downvote is from Carl Icahn

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This is my favorite comment so far haha

    • @DiveekJain
      @DiveekJain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂

    • @keondakuhhh69
      @keondakuhhh69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The other 5 are from Herbalife

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keonda Kuhhh they are haters

    • @masternobody1896
      @masternobody1896 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InvestorCenter warren is the best

  • @rossmoore1155
    @rossmoore1155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    “We will be watching your career closely young ackman”

  • @Londonbern
    @Londonbern 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Bill had heard the answer and became rich

    • @MrRight-fu1gf
      @MrRight-fu1gf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Was already rich! Rich since the 1990s.

  • @chooselife3000
    @chooselife3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Beautiful content, I love listening to both the old grand masters speak. Warren's long answers and Charlie's short answers, the wisdom is so huge. Many thanks.

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      chooselife3000 I truly appreciate the support! Thank you so much!

    • @icmull
      @icmull ปีที่แล้ว

      The best is when Munger hits you with something out of left field like a mail order bride with aids.

  • @brunomatias9124
    @brunomatias9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Complexity, by its nature, provides more opportunities to be fraudulent.
    Even more for financial institutions.

  • @Value_Pilgrim
    @Value_Pilgrim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The right question would be - knowing that financial institutions are prone to accounting shenanigans and misstatement...how can one still find opportunities in them? What factors should one evaluate as the pros and how does one get a realistic assessment of the cons to make a decision in the case of financial institutions?

  • @maddysydney
    @maddysydney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Buffett answered for 5:50 mins and Charlie for 30 seconds- outcome same. Charlie simply explained that like a gas company has a lot more explosions than a sand company, financial companies have a lot more financial issues (errors, explosions) than non-financial ones!

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charlie's answers are always concise and insightful!

  • @gordongordon98
    @gordongordon98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Howard Marks points out some red flags of being at the top of a bull market (and I added in what is happening currently that correlates with it)
    Lots of credit liquidity
    Very low interest rates
    A new financial instrument that is difficult to quantify and has no history = bitcoin (last time it was mortgage backed securities)
    New offerings get ridiculous valuations - AirBnb - Doordash
    Very high valuations - low returns (and high risk)
    That is what I can recall off the top of my head

  • @felpswa123
    @felpswa123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think they should have mentioned the logical conclusion that complicated financial firms shouldn’t be rated AAA. That is where the ratings agencies are still messing up.

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      BluffaloSoldier 100% agree with that statement.

    • @CSqrdX
      @CSqrdX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the least logical conclusion within the context of how markets mechanics work, materiality thresholds and confidence intervals, the fact that sophisticated parties on the buy-side have the intellectual bandwidth to properly analyze/price these securities, etc.

    • @felpswa123
      @felpswa123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MahanFan1 You may be right. I am not an expert, and perhaps you are. But an intuitive account would be that it is problematic for a rating agency to say that there is little risk associated with highly leveraged and complex organizations that they don’t understand. Is your point that the ratings agencies can just trust market to correctly price risk? This may sound very naive, but the periodic crashes and volatility of the market makes me skeptical that the market is all that wise (even if investors are “sophisticated”). Or maybe u mean something else?

  • @korylehman79
    @korylehman79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This video helps explain part of the reason why the 2008 financial crisis happened.

  • @kscs1192
    @kscs1192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what ratios should we use while analizing then?

  • @martinmutota9698
    @martinmutota9698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Charlie summed it very well

  • @luizfiorentini9522
    @luizfiorentini9522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The fascinating thing Is that Bill by that time he was very likely analyzing MBIA, triple Aaa rating Company at that time, that Bill short It and earn an Amazing return (One of his most succesful trades)

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That trade really helped Bill Ackman make a name for himself!

  • @shibisibi7131
    @shibisibi7131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The single best piece of information about analyzing financial industry :)

  • @floxydorathy6611
    @floxydorathy6611 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I just bought more of these a few minutes ago. Tying up money due to an apocalyptic stock market crash is also not a smart move. Life is a risk and it's better to take risks than to do nothing, you can't always expect to make huge profits all the time, people have so many opinions about a recession/depression. In just 5 months my portfolio grew by $300,000 in gross profit, the main thing is to expand your portfolio and you will see amazing results by investing

  • @YouCanDoX
    @YouCanDoX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    WB should have hired Bill Ackman after hearing his question and logical thought process

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ackman would have been a great addition to the Berkshire team!

    • @rokyericksonroks
      @rokyericksonroks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should asked about the role played by Moody’s in the GFC and al the fraud they failed to downgrade. Moody’s is owned by Berkshire.

  • @khoonyu
    @khoonyu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What year was this annual meeting? It's not in the video description.

  • @edgibbs3229
    @edgibbs3229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You are best at providing insightful content! Thank you for your exceptional work.

  • @vimalcurio
    @vimalcurio ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well it's more relevant now after what happened to svb.

  • @dakotah3043
    @dakotah3043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This channel is awesome. I just subscribed. It is already helping me learn more about investing!

  • @jimmywaltone6628
    @jimmywaltone6628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Hey, can someone tell me when this was??

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Jimmy Waltone this was the 2005 Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      David Alejandro Gonzalez Romero this was the build up to the financial crisis

  • @thinhpham4713
    @thinhpham4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a life, history and success lesson all in 1 video....this is good
    Thanks!

  • @CodyCannon11
    @CodyCannon11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Didn't realize I wasn't subbed yet. Saw you were only 10 away from being able to monetize your vids. Decided I should say thank you for all of this wonderful content you post (recognizing most of it is buffet and munger's advice and questions) but when you put your own vids out, I would like to support you. Here is to making you one step closer. Only 9 away my friend. Keep up releasing this awesome older (yet useful) content. Thanks!!

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cody Cannon I truly appreciate those kind words! I look forward to continuing to provide you with value and great content!

  • @imlkr_
    @imlkr_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey great work! Would like to see more of these and also some clips of some great quotes that they said in these meetings ..

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lakshanth Reddy thank you for the support! I will upload more of those! Make sure to subscribe to the channel if you haven’t already :)

    • @chriswinner2915
      @chriswinner2915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These clips are great!

  • @amartinjoe
    @amartinjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i tried reading Wells Fargo FS - I gave up. It's so complicated.

    • @Bhavesh_verma
      @Bhavesh_verma 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just buy coca cola

  • @fascinatedbyeverything
    @fascinatedbyeverything 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which year’s meeting was this?

  • @liverpooler1997
    @liverpooler1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was this interview from?

  • @hassaninvesting
    @hassaninvesting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Buffet always gives great advice! Keep in touch.

  • @sutats
    @sutats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "If we don't work with them they'll go to our competitors"

  • @maxmustermann5492
    @maxmustermann5492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was this?

  • @chriswinner2915
    @chriswinner2915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A young Bill Ackman!

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Crazy!

    • @alexg2150
      @alexg2150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He would have been almost forty, by which time he had been in the business for thirteen years. I wonder whether Charlie and Warren knew of him by that time...

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Alex G he has been a frequent attendee of the Berkshire annual meeting and has asked questions at multiple meetings. I think Warren and Charlie probably knew him by this time.

    • @alexg2150
      @alexg2150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@InvestorCenter The meetings were slightly smaller in those days too.

  • @Nemi51500515
    @Nemi51500515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What year?

  • @astasna
    @astasna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good question Mr. William Ackman

  • @raqueldominguez7834
    @raqueldominguez7834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Admiro su naturalidad de diálogo, un hombre con potencia física 💌

  • @familyaccount6491
    @familyaccount6491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey OP, can you let me know when this video was shot? Would be nice to get the date (or at least year) to build context

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mr. Uncertain spring of 2005! Make sure to subscribe to the channel for more investing content :)

  • @italianoemigrato8245
    @italianoemigrato8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great channel!! Well done

  • @MoneyR8
    @MoneyR8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What year was this? Was Ackman a billionaire at the time?

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This took place in 2005. I’m not sure if Ackman was a billionaire yet, but he did manage a relatively large hedge fund at the time.

  • @korylehman79
    @korylehman79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel is great. Very informative videos. Just subscribed.

  • @reasadek199
    @reasadek199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video!! Three GOATS in one room!! Keep up these awesome videos 👍

  • @carloschu7127
    @carloschu7127 ปีที่แล้ว

    The year is 2023 , he is right , again.

  • @robertpaulsin6109
    @robertpaulsin6109 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Misleading title

  • @andyy6481
    @andyy6481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when was this?

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spring of 2005! Make sure to subscribe to the channel if you aren’t already :)

  • @raynandha5351
    @raynandha5351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What year is this from?

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2005! If you haven’t already, make sure to subscribe to the channel for more investment related content :)

  • @joei_sd_fishing
    @joei_sd_fishing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The irony of ackman talking about ethics. See what he did to PSTH, his spac.

  • @shankarbalakrishnan2360
    @shankarbalakrishnan2360 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thks warren dont blame me. If i become wealthy❤❤🎉🎉

  • @victornyamu2547
    @victornyamu2547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From this to the greatest trade ever. 2.6 Billion in 30 days

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s come a long way; that’s for sure!

  • @checkdown3774
    @checkdown3774 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what you're saying is, accountants suck at their job?

  • @jamalbain5840
    @jamalbain5840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very useful information thanks for sharing this 💯

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support! Make sure to subscribe for more useful content :)

  • @alexinvests
    @alexinvests 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @supertien832
    @supertien832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice vid 👍🏻

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @supertien832
      @supertien832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi let’s support each other, I subscribed for you can you do the same for me too new friend 👍🏻😊

  • @cogitatione1
    @cogitatione1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the post. Unless I missed it, could you give the date of this session. Would be interesting to see how long until the meltdown.

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2005! Make sure to subscribe for more investment content if you haven’t already :)

  • @divyjain123456
    @divyjain123456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Is that that bill ackman ?

  • @pascquallo
    @pascquallo ปีที่แล้ว

    Which am is this?

  • @BeachBoi1000
    @BeachBoi1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TH-cam is so great.. I got many answers

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m glad you found value in the video!

  • @manuxaviour5622
    @manuxaviour5622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When was this happened?

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This took place at the 2005 meeting! Make sure to subscribe to the channel for more investment content if you aren’t already :)

  • @davidj2616
    @davidj2616 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    which year was this?

  • @josephmarschh6474
    @josephmarschh6474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this from 2008 cuz this sounds like 2008...

    • @josephmarschh6474
      @josephmarschh6474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BTW I love the product placement. Go Coca-Cola

  • @Lenny1337i
    @Lenny1337i ปีที่แล้ว

    Well he got MBIA right, so why was he asking? He knew the answer lol.

  • @gisaelggg
    @gisaelggg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was that? :0

    • @marza339
      @marza339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2005

  • @aw7108
    @aw7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg I just realized....
    Is this channel a reference to investor center in Wolf of Wall Street?

  • @kurtalder1622
    @kurtalder1622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What year was this ?

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2005! Make sure to subscribe to the channel for more investment content if not already :)

  • @jorgemejia9441
    @jorgemejia9441 ปีที่แล้ว

    The video title has nothing to do with the content

  • @tyler6266
    @tyler6266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What year was this in?

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2005! Make sure to subscribe for more investment content if you haven’t already :)

  • @kk22001
    @kk22001 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the end bill just say f it, MBIA i'm shorting you!

  • @peterlustig8778
    @peterlustig8778 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's really funny hwo Ackman is asking those 2 the questions. The faces of Warren and Charlie look a bit more stern as usual..

  • @pjb3194
    @pjb3194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ackman lost all respect after valeant lmao "why don't the agencies per form due diligence"

  • @agaashagaash6320
    @agaashagaash6320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:50

  • @LukeAvedon
    @LukeAvedon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The master speaks.

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pick your master. Ackman, Buffett, or Munger?

  • @sedditguy1836
    @sedditguy1836 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can't turn on notifications.
    your channel is in kids mode.

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for making me aware of this. I believe I have corrected the issue. Can you turn on notifications and let me know if they work? Thank you!!!

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seddit Guy thanks for the support!

    • @sedditguy1836
      @sedditguy1836 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InvestorCenter My pleasure. Love the content.

  • @thegoonist
    @thegoonist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:24 what hes saying doesnt make sense. why wouldnt you blame the ratings agencies. if as buffet says the ratings agencies have no idea what the ratings of the complicated financial institutions are, they should state as such and give a NA rating or something. rating these complex financial institutions AAA when theyve really got no idea how to audit them is the very definition of misleading!

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jon Sm I agree! However, the rating agencies don’t want to not receive the fees they get from rating these companies. There is a conflict of interest inherent in the process.

  • @AverageAngel
    @AverageAngel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    financial companies are hard to read!

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they are! Especially when the accounting rules and regulations were different prior to the financial crisis.

    • @divyjain123456
      @divyjain123456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep it simple. Check the CFs and ALM

    • @pillsberrydopeboy851
      @pillsberrydopeboy851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🌟 The Investor Center - Learn Investing things got a lot more strict but for good reason. It’s really hard to fix people 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @kemchobhenchod
    @kemchobhenchod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will make 10 million dollars in the next 10 years

    • @martinv893
      @martinv893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      100 bill in 5 years....#adjustyouraim

    • @martinv893
      @martinv893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slartibartfast pray that you do. im just saying you set the bar too low

  • @thelaw3536
    @thelaw3536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woot woot!

  • @sommi888
    @sommi888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @knmfujiwara
    @knmfujiwara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warren, if despite you owning and have access to all the primary sources of a company, can not make the determination if something is a positive or a negative, and that it can differ wildly in either direction - then that means that the whole financial architecture is flimsy, a mess, unreliable.

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If Warren can’t figure it out, you know something is messed up.

    • @j.mmachage831
      @j.mmachage831 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be that some of the companies are just too big to analyse well

  • @SCARFACE69247
    @SCARFACE69247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it's all BS!?!

  • @mostlikely...
    @mostlikely... ปีที่แล้ว

    🔺

  • @coolbrains142
    @coolbrains142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tl;Dl
    It CAN go tits up..

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ....and it likely will eventually

  • @Tomherbs
    @Tomherbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simple: go on CNBC and cry how Hilton was going to zero and how frightened I am of people I love dying from COVID-19, and then hedge it.

  • @InvestorCenter
    @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

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      @dakotah3043 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @devynfuriosi6612
    @devynfuriosi6612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What year is this from?

  • @jo1948
    @jo1948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What year was this?

    • @InvestorCenter
      @InvestorCenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2005! Make sure to subscribe for more investing content if you haven’t already :)

  • @MrFreedomforyou
    @MrFreedomforyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What year was this ?