Just a note on alloy and stainless steel fittings and fasteners. They are extremely prone to galling. Any little bit of smuts on the threads can cause them to seize before you get them even halfway done up. Clean threads and lubricant is your friend. Depending on the metal and the application you can use oil silicone spray anti seize or graphite dust or even wax.
For those who are not addicted to the colors of the AN fittings or are not building a Formula 1 where every ounce counts, you can use JIC fittings which are the industrial version made of steel and are WAAAY cheaper. Also choose your hose type carefully, as standard oil line hose is not the same as fuel line hose.
@@capnthepeafarmer Correct: face angle is different. Anyone else catch 3:38 where he cites JIC 37 degrees spec while showing a 45 degree AN application? If face angles don't match... leak city.
I really don’t understand why people dislike your videos. I learn something new every single one and I am thankful that you are able to share your processes with us.
The performance shop that converted my Lotus Esprit from mechanical fuel injection to electronic used AN fittings... didn't have an appreciation for what they did until I watched your video. Thank you!
Mike, as always we appreciate you using our product. I know we worked together on this one, but like you said, you've been using Vibrant for a long time before as well. Appreciate the support, can't wait to see the finished product!
Very nicely done and I for one learned a lot. Vibrant also has these super cool quick release connectors that are awesome in assemblies that need to come apart with some frequency. If you end up using those it would be good to show them to your audience because most people don't know they exist.
Just in case it hasn't been mentioned yet.. If you plan on using braided lines for fuel inside the cabin, always use PTFE hose for the section that is inside the cabin, as rubber will permeate fuel vapour slightly and you don't want to be breathing fuel vapour, unless you do, live your life. Great stuff Mike! Really been enjoying the series!
A great breakdown and very well shot as always. This is going to make a great tutorial video for TH-cam even for people not following the build. Hopefully it draws in more viewers to the channel!
I’m glad you’re using black fittings and hose on this, I honestly don’t think there’s anything worse than stainless hoses and red/blue anodised fittings.
AN fittings themselves are 37*, SAE Automotive fittings are 45*. But any AN fitting like seen in this video or purchased as an actual AN fitting will be 37* if I am not mistaken.
@@stanceworks i had a derale trans cooler come with both actually. Trans cooler was 37*. Trans cooler temp sensor fitting was 45*. Eliminated temp sensor fitting.
If you don't have sheers to cut your hose, you could shove a cork bung up the hose end with a screw through the back of it. When you're done taking your angle grinder to the hose end, you can use some needlenose pliers to grab the end of the screw and pull out the bung, which in turn will scrape out any hose residue from the cutting, Congrats, you just saved yourself nearly 100 bucks from having to buy the Vibrant shears ;)
I like your style. Your efficient and thorough at the same time. You're not wasting our time talking about what you ate for lunch and stupid stuff like that
haven't gotten to the level of a full AN build but I always enjoy using them when something comes with it ie. oil cooler awesome video, a bit therapeutic
Was about to go on a custom build for my bike and opted to wait and order the shears... thanks for that! Think it's the first time someones put a dual pass on a Bonneville!
Great episode and really helpful. One thought - if you're using tapered thread fittings on older British cars/bikes be careful as they may have British Standard Pipe (BSP) threads. They are similar to NPT but slightly different taper, thread angle and some sizes have different pitch. They will screw in, but won't be reliable...
I'll be trying Goodridge 811 hose for my fuel lines. It's PTFE but doesn't use an olive, so it looks super easy to assemble. I'd love to hear your thoughts on pushlock.
I don't know if it's AN compatible, but the king of hoses for tight spaces, the ptfe corrugated/convoluted line can be a life saver when you need really tight bends. I used pressed couplings though. :)
Dude, my heart sank a little on this video. I was unaware of the different ways to secure (an) ends to ptfe vs rubber. I did my fuel setup with an fittings on ptfe hoses but I used the threaded in rubber type fittings. The build is about 10 months old and no leaks but now I'm a little worried, what are the issues with the thread in type fittings into ptfe hoses?
@@stanceworks Update. I don't want to put false info out there. After checking it turns old that I didn't order ptfe lines, even though that was my intention, I mistakenly ordered CPE lines. I run E85 and I've read that CPE will be ok for a few years but I kinda wanted to route my fuel lines in a different direction anyway. Luckily most of the lines are hard line, its just the ones that needed to flex that I used the braided lines on, and the ethanol gauge sensor, but I think I'm going to get rid of that gauge and sensor to clean up the routing a bit. Thanks for the info anyway. Love the Feronda.
Very informative content, & I really appreciate your attention to detail on the featured topic. I'd recommend you to demo more products tbh in case any companies are seeking that Does Vibrant also sell fittings to replace onto say radiators using AN fittings or do companies readily have options for them in general?
I begin... by adding $600 to overall build cost. Could be more depending on the project. Some careful thinking is in order: there are places to harpdipe, and places for hose.
I'll never use AN fittings, but I loved the info in this episode anyway! All the good builds use them, so it's nice to know a bit about them and why they're used 😎
ORB is O-Ring Boss, not O-Ring Bung. It means "a protruding feature" in engineering, more specifically in this case a raised section that is threaded. A bung is a stopper.
QUESTION: @StanceWorks ...I need to shorten the lengths on my oil cooler lines with existing AN fittings . Do all the same physics apply when dismantling and reusing the fittings? Are they reuseable?
What didn’t make sense to me in this video is when he said the two lines he had were both -10 hoses But isn’t AN designation based on the OD of the tubing? So the PTFE line he mentions would be a different AN designation right?
It does vary on the application. You should always use PTFE hose & fittings (or hardline) on Nitrous, Brake & Clutch, PWR Steering Pressure. The normal braided rubber is good for everything else, depending on what is in it. If you are using a fuel with MTBE, M5 Methanol etc, your better off staying with the PTFE liner.
Great vid, working with these fittings can be an absolute bitch, I worked for the Audi factory Motorsport team and built and maintained a few transams as well as Quattros. We bled a lot while building these lines
Im restoring an 87’ Porsche 928 and replacing all fuel lines with an. Im having trouble finding a good selection od metric adapters. Everything the lines connect to use m16x1.5 male connections. So I believe I need an6 male to female m16x1.5 adapters. Im shocked how hard they are to find. And Im shocked that nobody seems to sell an hose fittings that terminate with male or female ends. Do these excise? Am I just searching for the wrong information?
Did no one catch he kept saying o-ring bung when orb stands for o-ring boss? Everything else was great though. Love the build, wish i had the time to do the same build myself.
Just a note on alloy and stainless steel fittings and fasteners.
They are extremely prone to galling. Any little bit of smuts on the threads can cause them to seize before you get them even halfway done up.
Clean threads and lubricant is your friend.
Depending on the metal and the application you can use oil silicone spray anti seize or graphite dust or even wax.
For those who are not addicted to the colors of the AN fittings or are not building a Formula 1 where every ounce counts, you can use JIC fittings which are the industrial version made of steel and are WAAAY cheaper. Also choose your hose type carefully, as standard oil line hose is not the same as fuel line hose.
JIC fittings are traditionally used in hydraulic and non-critical applications. JIC have looser tolerances than AN and can't be interchanged with AN.
@@capnthepeafarmer Does that mean I need to go back in time 30 years and re-do all the fittings on all my race cars?
what to heck bubba all my dang ol parts are aluminum
@@sugoi4983 Let me guess- mud bogger-right?
@@capnthepeafarmer Correct: face angle is different. Anyone else catch 3:38 where he cites JIC 37 degrees spec while showing a 45 degree AN application? If face angles don't match... leak city.
I really don’t understand why people dislike your videos. I learn something new every single one and I am thankful that you are able to share your processes with us.
Wow, this video is PHENOMENAL! So educational. I wish I could see more of this type of content on YT.
This is why this channel is so amazing. I'm not just watching someone build a car, I'm learning how they do it.
The performance shop that converted my Lotus Esprit from mechanical fuel injection to electronic used AN fittings... didn't have an appreciation for what they did until I watched your video. Thank you!
Mike, as always we appreciate you using our product. I know we worked together on this one, but like you said, you've been using Vibrant for a long time before as well. Appreciate the support, can't wait to see the finished product!
Very nicely done and I for one learned a lot. Vibrant also has these super cool quick release connectors that are awesome in assemblies that need to come apart with some frequency. If you end up using those it would be good to show them to your audience because most people don't know they exist.
I am AN addict of all Mike B content, great lesson, thanks
Just in case it hasn't been mentioned yet..
If you plan on using braided lines for fuel inside the cabin, always use PTFE hose for the section that is inside the cabin, as rubber will permeate fuel vapour slightly and you don't want to be breathing fuel vapour, unless you do, live your life.
Great stuff Mike! Really been enjoying the series!
A great breakdown and very well shot as always. This is going to make a great tutorial video for TH-cam even for people not following the build. Hopefully it draws in more viewers to the channel!
Glad I found this video - been struggling with "which hose to choose" my whole adult life.
Really great informative video, cheers Mike . You’ve de-mystified the AN fittings I see on every TH-cam channel but never fully understood
Love the AN breakdown. Thanks for the further education for us all!
I’m glad you’re using black fittings and hose on this, I honestly don’t think there’s anything worse than stainless hoses and red/blue anodised fittings.
I love red and blue fittings on the right build. This one isn’t it though.
I've been using AN fittings for years and you gave me a couple of extra tips ! thanks for the vid
Wow, I didn't know you could get so many tools for AN fittings. Very informative video Mike!
Also a critical thing to remember about AN fittings.
Aviation = 37* (JIC & MIL-DTL-18866)
Automotive =45* (SAE)
They do NOT cross over.
but I want my Corolla to fly
Aviation is 37°, but it's really important not to mix the two.
@@dougstenger4085 ty. I fixed it.
AN fittings themselves are 37*, SAE Automotive fittings are 45*. But any AN fitting like seen in this video or purchased as an actual AN fitting will be 37* if I am not mistaken.
@@stanceworks i had a derale trans cooler come with both actually. Trans cooler was 37*. Trans cooler temp sensor fitting was 45*. Eliminated temp sensor fitting.
Love the fun facts under your name at the start of every video 😂😂
The video seemed very well done. Keep it up.
I love it when you talk nerdy to me
Another cool video Mike. The videography is getting more and more cinematic too. Good work!
Sick video! Keep it man. You're killing it
If you don't have sheers to cut your hose, you could shove a cork bung up the hose end with a screw through the back of it. When you're done taking your angle grinder to the hose end, you can use some needlenose pliers to grab the end of the screw and pull out the bung, which in turn will scrape out any hose residue from the cutting, Congrats, you just saved yourself nearly 100 bucks from having to buy the Vibrant shears ;)
Very informative Mike, thanks for this one
I like your style. Your efficient and thorough at the same time. You're not wasting our time talking about what you ate for lunch and stupid stuff like that
Awesome how to on AN fittings , I always appreciate this kind of video and I’ll be applying to my ride
thanks for covering this, very informative
This is really great information! I am planning on doing AN fittings for my power steering lines on my car! I'll let you know how that turns out :)
Infotainment! Love it just as much as hands on mayhem!
Great episode! Thanks for sharing
Appreciate the how-to. Thanks man.
haven't gotten to the level of a full AN build but I always enjoy using them when something comes with it ie. oil cooler
awesome video, a bit therapeutic
Great video. Had no idea on the origin of these hoses, so this was a cool little history lesson.
Was about to go on a custom build for my bike and opted to wait and order the shears... thanks for that! Think it's the first time someones put a dual pass on a Bonneville!
Title maestro has been earned :) nice how to Mike!
I did think i wanted to watch this... then the video ended. Very informative 👏
Great episode and really helpful.
One thought - if you're using tapered thread fittings on older British cars/bikes be careful as they may have British Standard Pipe (BSP) threads. They are similar to NPT but slightly different taper, thread angle and some sizes have different pitch. They will screw in, but won't be reliable...
Good information is valuable. This video is one of those valuable ones. Thank you kindly Sir. ASE Master tech, 78.
Very cool! Thanks for putting this together. You did a good job breaking it down and made it all easier to understand.
I'll be trying Goodridge 811 hose for my fuel lines. It's PTFE but doesn't use an olive, so it looks super easy to assemble.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on pushlock.
my first attempt didn't go well, round 2 shirley will! thanks
Great stuff. So interesting and informative. Thanks.
Great instruction great teacher thanks for share just love the channel
That was cool and informative. Thanks M.
Super detailed... Loving the educational side of things... Awesome 😎👍
Sweet. was getting ready to replace the cooling lines on my transmission
Really appreciate you taking time out to make this video, great job..👍
Love it makes an engine look sharp liked the video 👍
Thanks for this!
I look forward to seeing this yellow binky driving.
It would be great to see a video on making AN brake pipes when you get to that stage too 👍
StanceWorks Automotive School...
great video Mike!
Great stuff as always - many thanks :)
Can't wait to see the finished product!
Thanks Mike it is always a great start of a day
Awesome video ! One question, does AN fittings only in use in the USA, or did it becomes some sort of standard across the world ?
Two year old video, which doesn't even matter, still a great informative video. Thanks!
Good lesson - thanks Mike.
Very nice!! You convinced me!
I don't know if it's AN compatible, but the king of hoses for tight spaces, the ptfe corrugated/convoluted line can be a life saver when you need really tight bends. I used pressed couplings though. :)
Thank you, this was incredibly informative!!!
Clean! Can't wait to see an engine bay full of this goodness
Twinstick garage was just doing some fittings on his semi. Makes better sense. Lucky day.
Super informative video! Thank you👍
Good job. Worth watching and well done.
Dude, my heart sank a little on this video. I was unaware of the different ways to secure (an) ends to ptfe vs rubber. I did my fuel setup with an fittings on ptfe hoses but I used the threaded in rubber type fittings. The build is about 10 months old and no leaks but now I'm a little worried, what are the issues with the thread in type fittings into ptfe hoses?
I’m astounded it’s not leaking. I’d correct it immediately and mitigate the risk of fire. Or have the hoses pressure tested at minimum.
@@stanceworks Update. I don't want to put false info out there. After checking it turns old that I didn't order ptfe lines, even though that was my intention, I mistakenly ordered CPE lines. I run E85 and I've read that CPE will be ok for a few years but I kinda wanted to route my fuel lines in a different direction anyway. Luckily most of the lines are hard line, its just the ones that needed to flex that I used the braided lines on, and the ethanol gauge sensor, but I think I'm going to get rid of that gauge and sensor to clean up the routing a bit. Thanks for the info anyway. Love the Feronda.
Very informative content, & I really appreciate your attention to detail on the featured topic. I'd recommend you to demo more products tbh in case any companies are seeking that
Does Vibrant also sell fittings to replace onto say radiators using AN fittings or do companies readily have options for them in general?
They do, you can buy weld-on bungs from them to add AN ports to pretty much anything.
been so looking forward to this one! stoked!
this was helpful and informative. i dug it dude!!
Is either line type suitable for under the car? Or is stainless preferred for places that could see road debris, water, etc..?
I begin... by adding $600 to overall build cost. Could be more depending on the project. Some careful thinking is in order: there are places to harpdipe, and places for hose.
Handy. I think I am going to have to redo my oil cooler lines.
With the ptfe hose, if the other end already has a fitting on it, you should slide the nut over first before fitting the olive?
Yes, you do that either way.
This was really great. Thanks!!!
great video! you’re a great teacher, thank you. have you thought about a career in teaching? you’d be an awesome high school teacher! thanks again!
Very clear and methodical instructio,n thanks.
Man I learnt so much about an lines. One question. Why do you need to leave that 1/16” gap?
Honestly, I'm not sure! But it's definitely one of the rules, so I follow it.
Great episode 👍🏾
I'll never use AN fittings, but I loved the info in this episode anyway! All the good builds use them, so it's nice to know a bit about them and why they're used 😎
I dunno man, I'm a sucker for banjo bolts.
ORB is O-Ring Boss, not O-Ring Bung. It means "a protruding feature" in engineering, more specifically in this case a raised section that is threaded. A bung is a stopper.
If I have -6ptfe lines than what size fitting should I get? May be a stupid question but I’m just now learning
I think the black AN Lines will look killer in the engine bay of the 308.
Push lock AN fittings are super easy to make lines.
For plumbing a inline handbrake, is it worth the effort to use AN braided line vs hardlines?
AN would be a lot easier imo.
I think I’m ready to build a K swapped Ferrari after watching that...
Thanks for the video and info.👍🏼
Like a lot of car nerds I've always thought A/N was kinda sexy looking when you open a hood and see how clean it is.
love this build
Such a great video!
QUESTION: @StanceWorks ...I need to shorten the lengths on my oil cooler lines with existing AN fittings . Do all the same physics apply when dismantling and reusing the fittings? Are they reuseable?
Yes they are! If they’re PTFE lines, you’ll need new ferrules though.
@@stanceworks Greatly Appreciated , Thank You
What didn’t make sense to me in this video is when he said the two lines he had were both -10 hoses
But isn’t AN designation based on the OD of the tubing?
So the PTFE line he mentions would be a different AN designation right?
What are the best applications for these hoses nitrous and fuel lines or oil and coolant ?
Anything and everything.
It does vary on the application. You should always use PTFE hose & fittings (or hardline) on Nitrous, Brake & Clutch, PWR Steering Pressure. The normal braided rubber is good for everything else, depending on what is in it. If you are using a fuel with MTBE, M5 Methanol etc, your better off staying with the PTFE liner.
Thanks for the videos
Great vid, working with these fittings can be an absolute bitch, I worked for the Audi factory Motorsport team and built and maintained a few transams as well as Quattros. We bled a lot while building these lines
I’d love to talk to you about an upcoming project…
Prof. StanceWorks taking us to class, and without the aid of Dr. Fingerpencil.
Im restoring an 87’ Porsche 928 and replacing all fuel lines with an. Im having trouble finding a good selection od metric adapters. Everything the lines connect to use m16x1.5 male connections. So I believe I need an6 male to female m16x1.5 adapters. Im shocked how hard they are to find. And Im shocked that nobody seems to sell an hose fittings that terminate with male or female ends. Do these excise? Am I just searching for the wrong information?
Is there a budget AN fitting brand you recommend? For someone who wants good hoses, but can't afford the extra cash for Vibrant?
Need to find some places to fit these
I would like to tap some holes to fit npt threads to fit an fittings does anyone have a guide to match an to thread tap needed?
Thank you for this one
Did no one catch he kept saying o-ring bung when orb stands for o-ring boss? Everything else was great though. Love the build, wish i had the time to do the same build myself.