Took two kids to different colleges both 600 miles from home. It is a cargo monster, never ran out. Drivability is solid, I know by avoiding reckless drivers on several occasions. We had the first year model, no issues but topped out at 25 mpg on the highway.
Literally probably next year. Same model since 2018. The new generation pilot has been out 2 years and that's going to be the chassis that it's based on
Have a 2014 touring. Fit, finish and reliability has been excellent. Didn't buy for cool looks, but practically as well as comfort is off the charts. Was surprised how well it handles and it's smooth ride quality. In other words, I'm very happy with the purchase.
We just got a 2025 EX-L in US and we love it. Full disclaimer, I hate to drive a minivan but the practicality it offers w kids and cargo is far superior to similarly priced SUV’s. And it actually gets up and goes when I hit the gas. V6 has some pep. I highly recommend it if space is the primary need.
Compare to all minivan I will pick Honda odyssey always For long drive with family and luggage V6 is bonus I drive from San Francisco to Houston back and forth it’s really very smooth with average 25 gas Best Value for money
It would be interesting to see what the take rate would be here in the States. Both Toyota and Chrysler offer AWD but finding out what percentage are sold that way is not easy. For Canadians, it might be just the ticket. Supposedly the flat floor of the current Odyssey can't happen with AWD.
I own a 2019 Odyssey. Great engine, great mileage for a v6. Good for my three young sons. My dislikes: rough shifts at 40km/h, manual rear gate doesn't raise very high, so I bump my head, and no AWD. My family's stuff will max out the payload when on vacation, and the design of the suspension doesn't seem to allow for helper air bags (unlike the earlier odyssey models). I will probably have to get a full sized SUV, when it's time, to replace it.
If you drive 15,000 miles a year the Sienna (35 mpg) will save you $1,600 a year in fuel over the Odyssey (22 mpg), over 10 years = $16,000. Siennas in our area are selling for MRSP, no mark up on factory orders.
I priced a Pacifica Limited AWD model, and it was north 0f 72K CDN dollars. Nice vehicle, but I don't want to live in it, I just want to drive it. When you see that kind of price tag, you definitely start thinking of alternatives, Suburban, Yukon, etc.
12:09 at $77k CAD I would get a Suburban or Tahoe over a minivan. But, back in 2021 I was able to get a Pacifica PHEV at $49k USD out the door and it has treated us very well.
I disagee with all the comments about hybrid saving you money. An xle sienna is selling at msrp at $48,000 and an ex-l Odyssey is selling for $40,500 at invoice in my area. In order to break even on the $7,500 price difference(not including interest), it will take 150,000 miles. Assuming Odyssey@ 22mpg and sienna @36 mpg. average price of gas for last 10 years= $2.80. In my opinion the hybrid isn't gaining you anything from a financial standpoint.
The push button transmission is the best option, despite what you say. It keeps the gear shift out of the way of drinks and other buttons. Odysseys are too expensive and Honda should have offered a hybrid powertrain years ago. Based on info from another car reviewer, Honda doesn't plan a hybrid Odyssey in favor of EV development.
I'm ok with 6cyl (non-hybrid) and like you I prefer the buttons to a screen but it would be nice to have an AWD option. They could keep the pricing lower to undercut Toyota and give you AWD and maybe a small turbo. That sounds like a winner
Chrysler Pacifica has the stow and go seats. That’s a big plus for me. I actually wanted a small cargo van but they stopped making them for some reason. Now I’m looking at minivans. I know Honda and Toyota are notorious for reliability but still Pacifica has what I need. The most cargo room! Easy folding seats. Can’t overlook that.
The stow and go seats are like barely padded lawn chairs. Very uncomfortable. I'd rather have comfortable middle seats and deal with removing them on the few occasions this is needed.
So the second row still does not fold flat? (yeah, I know the seats can be removed, but they are very heavy, and it means you commit yourself to no second row seats for the entire trip).
@@tortangtalong1 Most SUVs have foldable flat second row, so apparently it is no problem to work around Chrysler's patents, so I don't think that was the reason. Honda probably thought their "magic sliding seats" will be a competitive advantage, and decided to sacrifice folding flat. While sideways sliding seats are a neat trick, I think fold-flat seats provide much more important functionality. Note that larger SUVs are eating minivans' lunch, and it is not just the looks.
52,000 to start.... will keep driving my 350,000 Km 8 seat V6 Sienna with onboard computer showing millage at 9.6 L/100Km for the last at least 100,000 Km that costed $35,000 to purchase 21 years ago (1,666 cost per year ownership & dropping) and wait for more options.
I love our ‘19 Elite, but we are constantly having front suspension issues with it. It’s been fixed multiple times and always keeps coming back. I’ve really soured on Honda
How is the reliability for this vehicle? It seems as if Honda has been using this setup for some time...the powertrain should be fine. Any issues we should worry about?
I live in Pa and we had an Odyssey. I put blizzak tires on it and it was STILL absolutely dreadful in snow. A mild grade had it spinning tires in an inch of snow. We sold it. Never again. My G8 GT was better.
Will be trading my 2021 RAV4 Hybrid for a new Sienna. Northern New England and need a van with AWD and hybrid. Once you go hybrid, the super smooth transition from ICE to electric and 40mpg is hard to give up. Now if I could only find one for MSRP !
Why not to use best from both worlds? -Odyssey must have AWD option -360° camera - Acura could do the same with 2-nd row seats for MDX. I mean personal hand rest when middle seat is deleted😮 and maybe movable left/right seats🤔 And the same sunglasses box with mirror, it is also a 3row family vehicle, so as a driver you want to understand what is going on behind - both should have Sport Hybrid option
My biggest mistake of owning a family car is that I didnt start with a minivan but rather I started in SUV. My 19 odyssey can carry a full size couch no problem. 😂 SUV can’t do that maybe even a fully size SUV. 😂 But now I want an SUV because my kids are big enough to hop inside a lifted SUV.
I was just in Japan and I rented the Toyota Alphard because I had a lot of luggages. I love how this mini van blows away the Sienna. Why don’t we get luxury mini Vans like that here in the states and Canada?? I am baffled why we don’t get the nice cars that Japan got from Toyota and other brands?
Odyssey has an open airy front row, removable second row, and looks nice in my book. Coming from a mid-size truck I want more cabin room and better mpg. The Sienna looks horrible, and second row is not removable, and there are sketchy frontal crash ratings. Lastly, I don't trust Kia or Chrysler's engine and drive train which have poor reviews. Over my GMC Canyon, I would have a 1-2 mpg bump (meh), a lot more people space, and can still haul plywood or large items. But I agree with the reviewers, minivans are way too expensive. What I disagree with, is when you look at utility comparing to a full size SUV, minivans are much more practical and have more room.
This current Odyssey is on a super old platform compared to the sienna and even the Pacifica. This current odfesey platform is not designed to accommodate a hybrid setup or all wheel drive, that's why they can't just throw a hybrid or AWD model together. That'll have to wait for the next generation.
Minivans are Great! The Side Profile of the with the Lightening Bolt rear window is horrible. The Belt Line should be straight and level and not dip down. Minivans need to be truck like to be more acceptable to a large range of consumers. The Rear Hatch and taillights are dated and should wrap around. No 360 degree camera is a deal killer.
Well, it uses an antiquated V-6 with a timing belt instead of a modern chain (requires expensive service in the future), it brings warm memories of the past with its lousy fuel economy, it's competitive as it cost a lot too. Yes, with the extra cylinders (when they are working) it has good acceleration. I rate this car with 4 yawns out of 5.
It’s $20k less than Sienna inflated prices. I’m pretty sure the timing belt won’t be a big deal at 160,000kms lol. The V6 is not antiquated its best in class.
@@TheBMurda I agree, the Sienna prices are absolutely insane, and I admit that some of the older V-6 designs such as the GM 3.8 for Buicks in the 1990s can last well over 300,000 miles with routine service. But, in today's world where there is a shortage of automotive mechanics, which I've experienced profound delays in getting my Subaru serviced, I'm wondering how many Honda V-6 will actually get their timing belts changed when they should be. That service... which will cost more in the future, and more frequent oil changes to protect the engine from the stresses of cylinder deactivation, will be critical for longevity. I tend to keep my cars for well over 150,000 miles (240000kms), and I guess that I'm too lazy or frugal to change a timing belt or have an oil change every 5000kms. My dad owned a Honda V-6 engine in the 2000s that pinged on anything less than 91 octane and was not the most refined engine compared with other V-6's at the time. I don't think that Honda has really invested upgrades in this engine as they should.
@ You can permanently turn off VCM if it concerns you with very little effort. Also, this V6 has been replaced with a new low emissions certified design that goes from SOHC to DOHC in the 2023+ Honda Pilot that no longer has VTEC. Once this generation of Odyssey ends in 3 years this engine will be replaced by that and/or a hybrid system.
Why in the world add that ridiculous slot in the bumper. It is like the designers said we have to change something and that was the best they could come up with.
$58 Grand for a base model Yukon in USD. Damn. I think we paid about $16 Grand for our 1985 GMC Surburban (before they changed the name to Yukon XL in 2000.) It's funny one of the technology features we were impressed with was a button switch on the lower dash piece in the center of the dash (where your AC and radio system are now) that operated the rear window on the tailgate. I think there was a rear window frost defroster button there as well, come to think of it. And that was high tech for 1985. We traded it in in 1994 for one of those new 1994 Dodge Ram conversion vans. Which then got stolen down in Fort Lauderdale at a hotel my folks were staying at for the night before a cruise the next morning. They didn't even get all the luggage out before it was stolen. We think some grifters in the parking lot during a shift change scanned the electric lock code and got in that way, and then broke the steering column to start it and take off. Police found it about a month or two later abandoned along side of the road in Hollywood, FL absolutely torn apart on the inside. But no worries, I found us a 1996 Dodge van that was even better.
Hondas have started to look cheaper, with interiors that seem almost copy-pasted across models. It’s surprising, but Toyota has really outpaced Honda in terms of interior quality.
I have owned Hondas for 20 years and my children have purchased Honda vehicles. They used to be a quality vehicle. No longer. My current Honda will be my last. My dealership recommended that I put in a claim for yet another expensive repair due to faulty parts. A Timing Chain for $3,000.00 at 170,000 km (105,000 miles). Honda denied my claim without hesitation. My previous vehicle needed a new transmission at about the same mileage mark. I didn’t mind paying a higher price for a quality vehicle, however, current prices and lower quality vehicles have resulted in another lost customer for Honda. I doubt they care. There are better quality vehicles out there at a much more reasonable price. Goodbye Honda.
Is Honda Crazy? ... These are supposed to be economical family haulers and with the bad reputation this 3.5L engine has had with burning oil because of their terrible VCM system that most people end up buying the Bypass kit for to prevent premature engine cylinder wear and oil burning and they want this kind of money? Honda needs their head shaken. RIDICULOUS! Anyone that buys this over priced Junk also needs a psyche evaluation. Even if you bought a crappy Dodge Caravan and spent on repairs you would still be ahead over this thing!
You do realize that all Minivans are expensive now. But the Odyssey is expensive because they stopped making the lower trims because the sell rate was too low. People complain that cars are getting expensive and want cheaper options but when those options are available they don’t buy them.
The rear entertainment system really got a great update..Honda DELETED the actual DVD player !!! What a total joke. This is a total DOWNGADE !! Honda keeps downgrading this vehicle year over year. First they eliminated the rear ceiling HVAC vents in 2018, then they eliminated the fridge cooling box , deleted the vaccum, and now deleted the DVD player. Honda just keeps on donwgrading this vehicle over and over again except the price keeps climbing. Thumbs DOWN.
People will pay $73,000 Canada because you have to understand this thing gets 35 miles per gallon... What's the Tahoe get 15? Questionable reliability? Rear wheel drive bias in snow... Come on dude that's like comparing the price of a pickup truck to a sports car totally different animals. I have an odyssey I bought it for 31, 700 and so far I put $30,000 in gas in it and that's at 23.5.
As new grandparents of twins this Honda might do the trick. Great video
God bless u and the twins ❤
Totally agree about the V6 - that engine sound is just amazing! You don't get that in modern minivans anymore
Took two kids to different colleges both 600 miles from home. It is a cargo monster, never ran out. Drivability is solid, I know by avoiding reckless drivers on several occasions. We had the first year model, no issues but topped out at 25 mpg on the highway.
Magic slide continues to make this the best mini van!
GEEEEEZ! WHEN WILL THE BODY GET A REFRESH? IT'S TIME, COME ON HONDA!
Literally probably next year. Same model since 2018. The new generation pilot has been out 2 years and that's going to be the chassis that it's based on
The 2017 previous model was more elegant than the actual model @@johnsteele8073
The Ridgeline is due before the Odyssey
Exterior nice enough. Needs the NEW UPDATED INTERIOR. Big time.
I think it’s ok because they are missing 4 wheel drive, hybrid, and need more speakers. But the price is ok. Great show Andrea! ☕️☕️
Have a 2014 touring. Fit, finish and reliability has been excellent. Didn't buy for cool looks, but practically as well as comfort is off the charts. Was surprised how well it handles and it's smooth ride quality. In other words, I'm very happy with the purchase.
Deadpool confirms it. “The Honda Odyssey f*cks HARD!” 🤣
We just got a 2025 EX-L in US and we love it. Full disclaimer, I hate to drive a minivan but the practicality it offers w kids and cargo is far superior to similarly priced SUV’s. And it actually gets up and goes when I hit the gas. V6 has some pep. I highly recommend it if space is the primary need.
I think it’s due for a redesign. Throw in a hybrid engine and awd it’ll be competitive.
And even more expensive.
And much less “fun” than the v6
Odyssey is the 🐐
Compare to all minivan I will pick Honda odyssey always
For long drive with family and luggage
V6 is bonus
I drive from San Francisco to Houston back and forth it’s really very smooth with average 25 gas
Best Value for money
We are on our third Odyssey. LOVE it. Reliable and versatile!
That's why you're on your 3rd one?😅 right
@@nickr3441 LOL.
No 360 camera. They need this now, especially at this price point.
This Odyssey is old technology waiting on the chopping board.
360 cam overrated
The vehicle is too big if you have to rely on cameras to park.
AWD, 360° camera and hybrid should be an option+ mighty exterior refresh
Only thing missing from this offering is Awd. This would be the perfect choice for most families.
It would be interesting to see what the take rate would be here in the States. Both Toyota and Chrysler offer AWD but finding out what percentage are sold that way is not easy. For Canadians, it might be just the ticket. Supposedly the flat floor of the current Odyssey can't happen with AWD.
except for the price.
@@cbotten106they would have to redesign it. The spare tire is in the middle under the floor behind the first row.
I own a 2019 Odyssey. Great engine, great mileage for a v6. Good for my three young sons. My dislikes: rough shifts at 40km/h, manual rear gate doesn't raise very high, so I bump my head, and no AWD. My family's stuff will max out the payload when on vacation, and the design of the suspension doesn't seem to allow for helper air bags (unlike the earlier odyssey models). I will probably have to get a full sized SUV, when it's time, to replace it.
Best handling minivan. Honda needs to bring back the cheaper EX trims. ❤
I agree I had a 2020 Lx it was 37000$. Prices are crazy.
there is Odyssey type R .
If you drive 15,000 miles a year the Sienna (35 mpg) will save you $1,600 a year in fuel over the Odyssey (22 mpg), over 10 years = $16,000.
Siennas in our area are selling for MRSP, no mark up on factory orders.
I priced a Pacifica Limited AWD model, and it was north 0f 72K CDN dollars. Nice vehicle, but I don't want to live in it, I just want to drive it. When you see that kind of price tag, you definitely start thinking of alternatives, Suburban, Yukon, etc.
12:09 at $77k CAD I would get a Suburban or Tahoe over a minivan. But, back in 2021 I was able to get a Pacifica PHEV at $49k USD out the door and it has treated us very well.
I disagee with all the comments about hybrid saving you money. An xle sienna is selling at msrp at $48,000 and an ex-l Odyssey is selling for $40,500 at invoice in my area. In order to break even on the $7,500 price difference(not including interest), it will take 150,000 miles. Assuming Odyssey@ 22mpg and sienna @36 mpg. average price of gas for last 10 years= $2.80. In my opinion the hybrid isn't gaining you anything from a financial standpoint.
The push button transmission is the best option, despite what you say. It keeps the gear shift out of the way of drinks and other buttons. Odysseys are too expensive and Honda should have offered a hybrid powertrain years ago. Based on info from another car reviewer, Honda doesn't plan a hybrid Odyssey in favor of EV development.
5:32 if you need a van, you need it!
Easy Andrea, Zack looks jittery hanging on there 😅
Great video...Honda resale is good. Seems like Zack had too much sugar today! 😂
Great content Guys !!, I just can't stop laughing, Thank You and have a wonderful day Guys. I'LL buy my own vacuum 😂.
I'm ok with 6cyl (non-hybrid) and like you I prefer the buttons to a screen but it would be nice to have an AWD option. They could keep the pricing lower to undercut Toyota and give you AWD and maybe a small turbo. That sounds like a winner
Chrysler Pacifica has the stow and go seats. That’s a big plus for me. I actually wanted a small cargo van but they stopped making them for some reason. Now I’m looking at minivans. I know Honda and Toyota are notorious for reliability but still Pacifica has what I need. The most cargo room! Easy folding seats. Can’t overlook that.
The stow and go seats are like barely padded lawn chairs. Very uncomfortable. I'd rather have comfortable middle seats and deal with removing them on the few occasions this is needed.
So the second row still does not fold flat? (yeah, I know the seats can be removed, but they are very heavy, and it means you commit yourself to no second row seats for the entire trip).
Dodge has patented the stow and go 2nd row seats. I know it sucks other brands could not use it.
@@tortangtalong1 Most SUVs have foldable flat second row, so apparently it is no problem to work around Chrysler's patents, so I don't think that was the reason. Honda probably thought their "magic sliding seats" will be a competitive advantage, and decided to sacrifice folding flat. While sideways sliding seats are a neat trick, I think fold-flat seats provide much more important functionality. Note that larger SUVs are eating minivans' lunch, and it is not just the looks.
@@mountainhobo yes, for these prices, might as well get a large awd suv.
52,000 to start.... will keep driving my 350,000 Km 8 seat V6 Sienna with onboard computer showing millage at 9.6 L/100Km for the last at least 100,000 Km that costed $35,000 to purchase 21 years ago (1,666 cost per year ownership & dropping) and wait for more options.
You are right all model new car prices are not affordable
No hybrid, no all wheel drive, no buy!
the way that Lexus GX stole the moment
I love our ‘19 Elite, but we are constantly having front suspension issues with it. It’s been fixed multiple times and always keeps coming back. I’ve really soured on Honda
would be great if it comes with shift stick
If Honda doesn't offer V6 in the redesign, I will buy this
It's wishful thinking to imagine a future where we see a new Mazda 5. Minivans aren't so mini anymore either.
Not sure who called this a 'mini' van to begin with and we're stuck with the name !!! I agree the Mazda 5 was quite nimble and named accordingly.
unbelievable. what year is it? still no hybrid awd.
Are you guys planning to do a review of the updated 2025 Sienna?
Would this car work good in the Michigan winter? I want a sienna because of its AWD but the wait is so long.
How is the reliability for this vehicle? It seems as if Honda has been using this setup for some time...the powertrain should be fine. Any issues we should worry about?
is there a hybrid version?
Car so good it can whitstand a 2 near immortal superhumans fighting inside
“The Honda odyssey fucks hard”
Everyone pissing about no AWD, be like everyone else and get a set a winter tires.
I live in Pa and we had an Odyssey. I put blizzak tires on it and it was STILL absolutely dreadful in snow. A mild grade had it spinning tires in an inch of snow. We sold it. Never again. My G8 GT was better.
Once you owned an AWD vehicle you'll never go back to 2WD.
@@davids1816just be an adult and admit you can't drive. Prides a sin!
Will be trading my 2021 RAV4 Hybrid for a new Sienna. Northern New England and need a van with AWD and hybrid. Once you go hybrid, the super smooth transition from ICE to electric and 40mpg is hard to give up. Now if I could only find one for MSRP !
i always bought and love Odyssey since 1995, this bigger one since 1999
i find odyssey should get that pilot DOHC with 10 Speed
Honda is on top but just waiting for the redesigning and refresh to buy one.
Zack is holding on the HS (H*Ly *hit) handle pretty firmly.
Always
i love vans
a $73k van? is the vacuum a Dyson?
It kicked in yo!
Good review for normal people...
I sold my 2012 odyssey because I didn't like how it handled in the winter.
I would go back if they added AWD for sure.
Why not to use best from both worlds?
-Odyssey must have AWD option
-360° camera
- Acura could do the same with 2-nd row seats for MDX. I mean personal hand rest when middle seat is deleted😮 and maybe movable left/right seats🤔
And the same sunglasses box with mirror, it is also a 3row family vehicle, so as a driver you want to understand what is going on behind
- both should have Sport Hybrid option
The last mini van we had was the Dodge Caravan with the notorious Mitsubishi engine, can you say timing chain failure.
I love my 2018 one still! Is awesome. But it needs AWD or hybird AWD to make it 100%%
My biggest mistake of owning a family car is that I didnt start with a minivan but rather I started in SUV. My 19 odyssey can carry a full size couch no problem. 😂 SUV can’t do that maybe even a fully size SUV. 😂 But now I want an SUV because my kids are big enough to hop inside a lifted SUV.
I was just in Japan and I rented the Toyota Alphard because I had a lot of luggages. I love how this mini van blows away the Sienna. Why don’t we get luxury mini Vans like that here in the states and Canada?? I am baffled why we don’t get the nice cars that Japan got from Toyota and other brands?
The Kia Carnival makes this model seem like it's from 2015
Korean cars are crapola.
Wish we could have the exterior of the Carnival and the engineering of the Odyssey.
EXACTLY, SAW ONE THE OTHER DAY, WOW THEY MAKE HYBRIDS ALSO
This one will be on the road in ten years, the Kia won't
@@davidjymHonda x Kia collaboration confirmed?
on chinese market it has hybrid, 2.0liter atkinson engine and a bit different interior with sensor climate control.
Odyssey has an open airy front row, removable second row, and looks nice in my book. Coming from a mid-size truck I want more cabin room and better mpg. The Sienna looks horrible, and second row is not removable, and there are sketchy frontal crash ratings. Lastly, I don't trust Kia or Chrysler's engine and drive train which have poor reviews. Over my GMC Canyon, I would have a 1-2 mpg bump (meh), a lot more people space, and can still haul plywood or large items. But I agree with the reviewers, minivans are way too expensive. What I disagree with, is when you look at utility comparing to a full size SUV, minivans are much more practical and have more room.
Laate Maazda 😊
Should have been a four wheel drive with hybrid electric motors at the back but they lost the chance.
This current Odyssey is on a super old platform compared to the sienna and even the Pacifica. This current odfesey platform is not designed to accommodate a hybrid setup or all wheel drive, that's why they can't just throw a hybrid or AWD model together. That'll have to wait for the next generation.
It's also one of the most reliable vehicles on the road. A Suburban is sub par at best.
deadpool's choice of van
Seats should fold flat in the second row, or at least be flat when removed.
The Caravan was pretty clever in the folding seats department.
The Odyssey has 4.5 in ground clearance, not 5.8 as stated in the video. It has the lowest clearance of all minivans available.
exactly.this is so low. really limits where it can go. i dont need 9 inches but 4.5 isnt enough.
Sienna MSRP 73K on a Van. Toyota Canada is really overpricing stuff.
Minivans are Great! The Side Profile of the with the Lightening Bolt rear window is horrible. The Belt Line should be straight and level and not dip down. Minivans need to be truck like to be more acceptable to a large range of consumers. The Rear Hatch and taillights are dated and should wrap around. No 360 degree camera is a deal killer.
Still reeling from the Takata airbag debacle is Honda. Not a lot of funds to invest into the Odyssey.
Well, it uses an antiquated V-6 with a timing belt instead of a modern chain (requires expensive service in the future), it brings warm memories of the past with its lousy fuel economy, it's competitive as it cost a lot too. Yes, with the extra cylinders (when they are working) it has good acceleration. I rate this car with 4 yawns out of 5.
I think the cam belt service is $2,500 at 100,000 miles.
It’s $20k less than Sienna inflated prices. I’m pretty sure the timing belt won’t be a big deal at 160,000kms lol. The V6 is not antiquated its best in class.
@@TheBMurda I agree, the Sienna prices are absolutely insane, and I admit that some of the older V-6 designs such as the GM 3.8 for Buicks in the 1990s can last well over 300,000 miles with routine service. But, in today's world where there is a shortage of automotive mechanics, which I've experienced profound delays in getting my Subaru serviced, I'm wondering how many Honda V-6 will actually get their timing belts changed when they should be. That service... which will cost more in the future, and more frequent oil changes to protect the engine from the stresses of cylinder deactivation, will be critical for longevity. I tend to keep my cars for well over 150,000 miles (240000kms), and I guess that I'm too lazy or frugal to change a timing belt or have an oil change every 5000kms. My dad owned a Honda V-6 engine in the 2000s that pinged on anything less than 91 octane and was not the most refined engine compared with other V-6's at the time. I don't think that Honda has really invested upgrades in this engine as they should.
@ You can permanently turn off VCM if it concerns you with very little effort. Also, this V6 has been replaced with a new low emissions certified design that goes from SOHC to DOHC in the 2023+ Honda Pilot that no longer has VTEC. Once this generation of Odyssey ends in 3 years this engine will be replaced by that and/or a hybrid system.
Thats the most 2014 front end ive seen
There's not much change since 2014 for the Odyssey.
i had a van but i cant afford now
nice review, but odyssey looks old and no AWD...
Honda, Honda more reliable than any KIa currently. Reliable is key for vans
Can we get better rear vents for the rear facing seats!!! 😡
Coincidence that the Odyssey drives by a HandyDart bus? :)
Deadpool Edition. Nice
No 360 degree camera . Not Sr Citizen friendly. No dash board projection
Just before the full covid locked down, these were like averagely $45,000. The rate of inflation doesn't justify the increase at all
I like it but Sienna and Carnival much nicer. Not sure what they're thinking not refreshing the interior and small screen.
Why in the world add that ridiculous slot in the bumper. It is like the designers said we have to change something and that was the best they could come up with.
73000 thousand is a whole lot of depreciation driving it off the lot when time to trade in
That odyssey exterior looks so outdated same as 15 years ago same body lines I go with a sienna instead definitely hybrid all wheel drive 👍
So much modernity but there is no baby changing table.
Not a fan of the ratchet armrest..need to update it like the Ridgeline
$58 Grand for a base model Yukon in USD. Damn. I think we paid about $16 Grand for our 1985 GMC Surburban (before they changed the name to Yukon XL in 2000.) It's funny one of the technology features we were impressed with was a button switch on the lower dash piece in the center of the dash (where your AC and radio system are now) that operated the rear window on the tailgate. I think there was a rear window frost defroster button there as well, come to think of it. And that was high tech for 1985. We traded it in in 1994 for one of those new 1994 Dodge Ram conversion vans. Which then got stolen down in Fort Lauderdale at a hotel my folks were staying at for the night before a cruise the next morning. They didn't even get all the luggage out before it was stolen. We think some grifters in the parking lot during a shift change scanned the electric lock code and got in that way, and then broke the steering column to start it and take off. Police found it about a month or two later abandoned along side of the road in Hollywood, FL absolutely torn apart on the inside. But no worries, I found us a 1996 Dodge van that was even better.
No flat floor is a deal breaker for me, I would consider the Pilot for several reasons, flat floor and IVTM all wheel drive
It has a flat floor behind the second row and if you remove the second row seats that is also flat.
Love it
Hate this design since it came out. They just refuse it make it as nice as the sienna
Hondas have started to look cheaper, with interiors that seem almost copy-pasted across models. It’s surprising, but Toyota has really outpaced Honda in terms of interior quality.
I have owned Hondas for 20 years and my children have purchased Honda vehicles. They used to be a quality vehicle. No longer. My current Honda will be my last. My dealership recommended that I put in a claim for yet another expensive repair due to faulty parts. A Timing Chain for $3,000.00 at 170,000 km (105,000 miles). Honda denied my claim without hesitation. My previous vehicle needed a new transmission at about the same mileage mark. I didn’t mind paying a higher price for a quality vehicle, however, current prices and lower quality vehicles have resulted in another lost customer for Honda. I doubt they care. There are better quality vehicles out there at a much more reasonable price. Goodbye Honda.
Bigger size of FIT
Jesus. That is ugly… even for a minivan…
Kia Carnival i think is the peak of ugly. This just looks boring
Is Honda Crazy? ... These are supposed to be economical family haulers and with the bad reputation this 3.5L engine has had with burning oil because of their terrible VCM system that most people end up buying the Bypass kit for to prevent premature engine cylinder wear and oil burning and they want this kind of money? Honda needs their head shaken. RIDICULOUS! Anyone that buys this over priced Junk also needs a psyche evaluation. Even if you bought a crappy Dodge Caravan and spent on repairs you would still be ahead over this thing!
Breathe. It’s ok.
You do realize that all Minivans are expensive now. But the Odyssey is expensive because they stopped making the lower trims because the sell rate was too low. People complain that cars are getting expensive and want cheaper options but when those options are available they don’t buy them.
Somehow these are still hard to get and have long waits.. what gives?
@@ChuckNorrizzed Artificial shortages = hard to get = people thinking that it must be popular. You got played son!
@@CedroCrontrue, this are not new companies which don’t have means to handle the demand. And BTW what is causing shortages now???
WOW THOSE PRICES the soccer mom must be rich
The rear entertainment system really got a great update..Honda DELETED the actual DVD player !!! What a total joke. This is a total DOWNGADE !! Honda keeps downgrading this vehicle year over year. First they eliminated the rear ceiling HVAC vents in 2018, then they eliminated the fridge cooling box , deleted the vaccum, and now deleted the DVD player. Honda just keeps on donwgrading this vehicle over and over again except the price keeps climbing. Thumbs DOWN.
Just really don't the VCM system and she is a gas eater like other Honda V6.
People will pay $73,000 Canada because you have to understand this thing gets 35 miles per gallon... What's the Tahoe get 15? Questionable reliability? Rear wheel drive bias in snow... Come on dude that's like comparing the price of a pickup truck to a sports car totally different animals. I have an odyssey I bought it for 31, 700 and so far I put $30,000 in gas in it and that's at 23.5.