KISS sucked after the original members left. Just endless albums of $ that all sounded the same. Can you compare Lick it Up with the power of Cold Gin?
As a kid, I loved Van Halen with David Lee Roth. Then I saw them live and I couldn't figure out how Roth could sound so good on records, but was terrible on stage after just one song. A huge come down! But Sammy gave his all each and every time and kept the Van Halen flag flying as he took them to another level.
Indeed, And Sammy brought "Can't Drive 55!", With him as well as playing an instrument. Singers who also play are simply better overall. They understand the whole of songs better, etc. Subtle, but true I believe.
It's personal taste. I liked Hagar better just for the fact he's a much better singer. Not interested in a "showman". Both era's had great songs however.
I prefer the frontman. A frontman grabs the attention of the crowd. And yes the Hagar years had some great songs. But the Roth years had more great songs
@@colonelhogan1827 oh that’s crazy wild to say . Music is subjective my guy. Even tho some of the shit I hear my kids playing is like “what the fuck” to me , I want them to love music . Our ears aren’t the same . 🤷🏻♀️ same kids tho love some great shit too, because their love of music is encouraged.
Van Halen was one of the top bands in the world when Dave left. Sammy didn’t make them “bigger” but he did help sustain their success. Which era you like better is a matter of taste.
exactly I like both eras and Sammy did a fine job helping to continue riding their wave forward- people complain the Hagar era is more pop but some of Ed's best guitar is in both eras.
Nothing person Gene, but Sammy never tried to be Dave, and Brian never tried to be Bon. You however put two people in Kiss and made them look like the original characters that Ace and Peter portrayed . Whether they are better for your band is debatable, but they could have portrayed different characters. Like Vinny Vincent and Eric Carr instead of trying to cash in on the popularity that Ace and Peter started with the spaceman and the cat characters. I call BS on your comments regarding replacement Band members.
Sammy and VH didn't have the same image to uphold like KISS did. The entire time without the makeup many KISS fans wanted the makeup back. Then they complained when they put it back on and kept it on with Tommy and Eric. If new characters didn't work they end. They didn't want to end. They made a smart business decision to keep their band going. They lasted almost 20 years with Tommy and Eric because they were true musicians and great bandmates.
Exactly you nailed it Gene is being totally full of it KISS has been nothing but a gloried tribute act for the last 20 years WITH other people playing the Roles OF SPACE ACE and PETER the CATMAN.
Each of his examples were bands on th verge of exploding either way in typical rock band fashion. Th lead singer either got out bc his own momentum matched that of th band and it was more lucrative even w/a smaller audience... of th sonofabish just drank himself to death bc he couldn't handle th new height of success. And Gene's choice to dress up techs as original members, demonstrates he cares more about money than th creativity of inventing new characters. Just check out his logo.
Gene and Paul OWN THE BAND and the likenesses of the characters. They can employ whomever they want as the band characters, as that is a unique thing about KISS.
Actually Gene says all this to justify Tommy Thayer wearing Ace's makeup saying he's the Spaceman as Ace was Space Ace, and getting Eric Singer wearing Peter's makeup calling him The Catman. Now this tool with his partner in crime, Paul Stanley trying to shove a twenty million dollar train wreck aka known as the KISS Avatars down our throats. That shit will never fly. I'm surprised Gene didn't build the Grand Canyon looking for a penny he misplaced.
@@TheScooter1963 The Van Halen, David Lee Roth era sold over 34 million copies Sammy Belcher Hagar sold 27 million. Sammy Hagar's solo career has sold more than 50 million albums worldwide, (18 Solo Albums) David Lee Roth, solo album sales are estimated to be 57 million. (He's released 6 solo albums.) One thing you could bet your house on. If Gene Simmons or Paul Stanley are talking, The truth won't be told!"
As awesome as Sammy was in VH - VH never would have been 'VH' if Sammy was first. Eddie and Dave were 2 of the purest rockstars ever to hit the scene. Both Genetically Engineered.
Just a silly comment. So many late 70s and early 80s rock bands sold out with ballads in the mid 80s. Eddie and Sammy were both at a point where they wanted to write more love and keyboardy songs. Timing is everything.
Who cares? It's all preferences. I don't check to see who sold more or had better hits. Love Roth & Hagar. Montrose & his solo stuff is really great. The constant for me is the VH brothers. Their music, to me, was first.
Correct, Sammy had HUGE shoes to fill and did so admirably...kept VH relevant when they should have been in the old age home. He deserves a ton of credit.
@@hadleymanmusic I was listening to Hagar before he joined with Van Halen and had I gotten tired of Van Halen at that same time. They were just getting goofy. Eddie actually played some of the guitar tracks on Sammy's last album before joining Van Halen. Eddie approached Sammy at a festival and told him he was a Montrose freak and that Montrose had influenced him massively.
Haha, the Beatles DID admit that Pete Best got all the attention from the girls, but the real reason they kicked him out was because he was a terrible drummer and George Martin didn't want him to play on any recordings. Ringo subbed on drums for a few shows and it just clicked and they kicked out Pete and asked Ringo.
Van Halen wasn't a soap opera. It shouldn't be remembered as such. The entire catalogue of their material is legendary and historical. Thanks to everyone that kept it going.
And old school VH fans lost their minds over Eddie adding synthesizers and keyboards. So did DLR. It's one reason his time in Eddie's band came to an end. But, as soon as Sammy joined, all of a sudden, it was all his fault...Again! EDDIE'S band, not Sammy's! It's always been EDDIE'S band and EDDIE's way, or the highway.
@@brianvenners8259 I don't think it was the synths per se...Jump and I'll Wait were a perfect mixture of synth and guitar.. It was the songs. Why Can't This Be Love? Love Comes Walking In? From the guy who wrote I Can't Drive 55? C'mon... We can't blame those sappy songs totally on Eddie. Even "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" rocked hard that stuff...
@@Strange-Songs I don't know how old you are, but I'm speaking from the experience of listening in real time and on a daily basis to all of the whining and sniveling about keyboards, particularly on Jump (pretty sure I'll wait is the only other track with keyboards), while 1984 was all over the radio, and the widespread disgust with pretty much every song on that record that wasn't Panama and Hot For Teacher. That was after all the griping about the "old geezer" covers on Diver Down. You can't really believe Sammy just walked through the door and started doing a bunch of crap Eddie didn't approve of. Get real! VH fans of the day wanted nothing to do with keyboards and Eddie employed them even more going forward. But, you're all just more comfortable blaming the guy Eddie hired to sing in HIS band. Musicians age and change, including Eddie. Not all of them are going to do it in a way you like.
@@brianvenners8259 I was quite young when 1984 came out but was old enough to buy the album and my friend has all the VH albums. I can imagine there were older VH fans who did not want synths on Van Halen. "Synths are for New Wave Wussy music...not rock!" I agree it was Eddie who wanted more keyboards...not Sammy's fault but Sammy was the lyricist and melody writer who was writing these sappy songs...so they are both to blame...ha ha! Even if there were zero keyboards in Van Hagar, I still don't like the Sammy's lyrics and melodies...too corporate rock/adult contemporary for me. I love his VOA and Three Lock Box albums...loved that.
@@brianvenners8259 CORRECT.....funny how some want to forget those days. I was THERE. When "Jump" came on the radio the 70s VH fans were apoplectic. They could not believe the mighty mighty VH would make a song so silly, so vapid...so pure POP TRASH.....but guess what? The kids loved it, and so did MTV (which ruled music back then). Sammy didn't destroy VH.....Eddie did.
The way Paul tells it he took Simmons to the VH show to see if he agreed with Paul to get them signed. Simmons vanished. Paul found him backstage talking to the group. Now, who is embellishing?
5:24 Adam asks an unexpected question and Gene has to quickly make something up, hoping someone won't fact check him. "Oh, sure! Uhm, you know, "Devil" and all that other stuff..." It was the only song name he could (partially) think of from Van Halen I on short notice even though he was "largely instrumental" in getting the band started.
There’s an audio on TH-cam of John Lennon saying they got Pete Best because they needed a drummer right away because they were going to Hamburg. Lennon said when they got back to England he wasn’t showing any improvement so they got Ringo. There’s another audio comparison of Pete Best and Ringo playing the same drum track and Best was inconsistent. Gene is just repeating a rumor. I’m sure you know this and Gene should know better.
I saw Van Halen once….with Gary Cherone at the star lake near Pittsburgh, hardly anybody was there, but Eddie played magnificently. Edward was the soul of Van Halen.
They made a second album with Gary that got scrapped in 1999. They did an LP with Roth that got canned in 2000 as well. Some of those Roth songs went on to be featured on ADKOT.
Van Halen “Zero” (demo tapes) is such awesome raw old school VH! It’s a crime that it hasn’t been released into an album that everyone of the die hard fans could buy and own! We can hear it on TH-cam, but nowhere else.
Van Halen Total sales in 1991 would have shown the Hagar era on top at the time, but then the lore took over and the old stuff started selling again in the late 90's
I hope you’re kidding. Steve Perry is one of the greatest ever. They had to search the planet to find someone who sounded identical to SP while performing the same songs to get the fans to accept the idea of carrying on without Perry.
For anyone who lived through both the Roth and Hagar eras, there is no debating that with Hagar the band reached far greater heights in terms of commercial success and critical acclaim. Four, consecutive Number One albums, the band's only Grammy, and numerous other awards and recognitions, demonstrates that fact conclusively. Yes, the Roth era may have a slight edge in terms of album sales, but that's only part of the story. Bands make most of their money from selling tickets (i.e., touring) not from selling albums. With Hagar at the helm, Van Halen broadened its commercial appeal to a far wider audience and was one of the biggest touring draws from the 1980s into the mid 1990s. Also, publishing rights (both composition and recording copyrights) play a large a large role the financial picture. Queen, for example, recently sold the rights to its entire catalog to Sony Music for a reported USD $1.27 BILLION. Unfortunately, Roth, in terms of being a song writer, was far less prolific contrasted against Hagar. Roth leaned heavily on cover songs pilfered from other bands (i.e., You Really Got Me, Where Have All the Good Times Gone, Ice Cream Man, Big Bad Bill, Dancing in the Streets, You're No Good, etc.) , something Hagar did only very rarely. Hagar, during his tenure, astutely wrote nearly all of the band's songs, and the band still owns the publishing rights to all of them. Also, Hagar brought in his own manager, Ed Leffler, and together they re-negotiated the band's contracts with the record company, which resulted in a far more lucrative deal for all of them.
Its not even close,Hagar is great and had 4 number 1 albums,but Diamond Dave,s era has the best material and two albums that have reached diamond status.which means over 10,000,000 a piece.
I'm not certain but I think the Hagar era earned more Number #1s, and the Roth era made more money overall. That's good going, either way! In any case, I *love* both eras of the band. Heck, I even love two or three songs from the Cherone album too! 😅
@@MisterMoosteryour wrong he could never sing. So you know not what you are talking about!!! Hager can sing that’s the difference you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you dude.
@ No full of it. He was never good live. He never would sing a hole song. He would yell and scream. Dave can’t sing Sammy can that’s it. Dave could never sing early in career or later he’s garbage. Can Dave sing dreams ever? You know the answer!!!! Nope can’t never could. You’re delusional….
Van Hagar benefited from MTV and VH1 platforms. The original lineup also benefited from MTV airplay, especially the 1984 album. They would have continued with Roth but as you know the implosion happened. Credit to Hagar as he took full advantage of the situation and with his vocal and writing skills just killed it. That being said, The Roth era is still the most popular and sold almost double the Van Hagar era.
Iron Butterfly's first guitarist on record was Danny Weis. When he was replaced by Erik Brann the band exploded in popularity and was later awarded the first in house platinum album award by Atlantic.
I have heard rumors that went Van Halen was signed The record company did not want David Lee Roth as the singer . It was suggested that Sammy Hagar would be better.
@@RiffsnRhythms Jon Bon Jovi actually did, and got them signed to Mercury Records. Gene Simmons claimed to have worked with them years before. Personally, I give Jon the credit. He not only got them signed, but also took them on tour.
@@charliec5653 being a jersey boy myself that’s the story I’ve always understood. Since the end of Kiss, Gene is on his shit talking tour to bring buzz about his new project. lol
Gene is a numbers guy - I'm a Sammy fan , but album sales went down subsequently with each album with Hagar . I think the last bump up in sales was with Balance. The Dave era sold way more . 1984 sold over 10 million. They wouldn't see that number again in their careers.
Kiss wasn't the same when they lost Ace... they will never be able to say otherwise. You can sell more but doesn't mean it was the way you broke through and became as large as you ever were in around 1977.
KISS had lost popularity looooong before Ace left - years, in fact. By the time they released their '78 solo albums and record stores were returning them, the writing was on the wall....
Roth era is great but lyrics are nonsensical and goofy. Recorded basically live and one time. Sure it’s genuine but sounds really dated. I like both but prefer Sammy as it’s still Eddie playing along with more emotional songs. I’m not always pounding 16oz Budweisers to meaningless Roth era jams, so Sammy works better for my daily commute to work etc. Way more substance and idc if it’s more commercial. It just sounds way better. If you’re hitting the booze and rails, ya sure Roth fits the scene.
Van- Hagar Sammy took them to the stratosphere! The band grew up woke up and made Great music. Van Halen play my high school for lunch once 1977 they were in some back yard parties good times
just because they sold more albums does not mean they were making better music, but with gene its all about the almighty $$$, even if the creativity and art suffer
The Beatles producer hated Pete Best’s drumming when they got their first break as recording artists and would only use session drummers. The Beatles already played with Ringo in Hamburg and knew he was a better fit with the band.
That’s not the reason the Beatles dropped Pete Best. Listen to him play on anthology one. He didn’t play well and George Martin thought he was playing so bad that he wanted a studio musician to play when they the next time they recorded.
They had the same problem with Ringo. In fact, in 95% of bands with musicians that age? It is true. Even if you've got a drummer that is technically really good & say hes 18. Getting that kid to play what's needed vs what he just feels like playing is virtually impossible & it takes too much time. Or its the opposite. You have a drummer thats ok enough to keep a beat but he can't do anything else thats needed. Ringo & Best were about the same skill level. This story stands up that Gene tells.
I'm not saying that's not true but it's hard to believe that Pete Best couldn't drum to "Love Me Do." Maybe George Martin not used to working with untrained musicians was being overly cautious. I was a drummer for years. I could take anybody off the street who never played drums before, and in less than half an hour teach them to drum to "Love Me Do."
@@Cyrano66 Ya I get that. I think you're right that Martin wasn't used to working with untrained kids but theres probably even more to it than that. He & now his estate has a commercially vested interest in the legacy of McCartney, Lennon, George & Ringo.
The music audience grew enormously from the late 70s' up into the late 80s' and 1990s'.. Market growth via MTV, more Rock radio stations and CDs sales skew the actual pound for pound numbers and data elements.
Not knocking Brian but it wasn’t because of him that AC/DC blew up. They were on a very steady trajectory and were poised to blow up even with Bon. The BIB songs were perfectly crafted and all Brian had to do was be solid and keep the vibe of the band intact. Which he certainly did. But apart from a well deserved live tour loyalty, that has lasted to this day, their studio albums have always done less business after BIB. There’s no lyrics from Brian that are memorable or have stood the test of time like Bon’s lyrics. It’s a big part of the magic of the Bon era.
Brian always sounded like he was screaming through a constipated shit to me, but overall did a good job replacing a guy that sounded like a troll. Still an iconic band despite the weird sounding singers.
House of Pain has Gene Simmons singing...."Pain". And YES ...Van Halen's Gene Simmons Demos is not only awsome sounding. It's GOLD. Gene should be proud for his work with Van Halen.
I bought their first album on CD and i remember in the liner notes them thinking Gene Simmons and wondering "whats that all about?" But now i know from Genes story.
Yea...but KISS didnt get bigger without Ace n Peter,they were not even in the same relm without Ace n Peter..so just face it Gene...you NEED Ace and Peter if your going full make up..
KISS was a cartoon act from Day One and nothing more. Just because a lot of NON rock and roll types bought into their nonsense doesnt make them anything more than a joke with a lot of money. Simmons has always been a businessman not a musician....
@ they became a cartoon, but didn’t start that way, and people way more influential than you and me within the music world, like Tom Morello, give KISS a ton of credit. So do the guys from Rush. Other than that, completely agreed
When gene talks about replacing band members you can tell he takes it personal since so many Kiss fans are upset with the way they treated Ace & Peter through the years him and Paul wanting the majority of money and trying to treat them as hired guns kissing their butts like Tommy and Eric did
For that time Jump was a killer tune. As for 'hits' its not even about people buying the music. People buy the music because they're not given a choice. Hits are bought not sold.
Come on Gene I think all them groupies rattled your brain bro? Van Halen was David Lee Roth. The chicks, the parties, the coke, the travel. That's rock and roll. Yeah Sammy was great, but nothing like the old Van Halen. After Back In Black, every ACDC album sounded the same, one after the other. Bon Scott was ACDC. Brian was just the replacement singer
Van Halen did not "get bigger" without DLR. They got a corporate push but never sold more records or tickets. Much of VanHagar's success was based on the previous reputation of the band. VH's biggest albums are both DLR on the mic.
Not looking at first/original releases! DLR Van Halen albums have more sales because they were resold multiple times - original release in album form; release in cassette, release in CD. Looking at original sales - Hagar outsells them
Have to remember the early Van Halen numbers were bolstered by the fact that we start out with records had to buy the cassette and then when CDs came along, we all had to go out and buy the CD by the time Hager came along. We were just buying the CD the early stuff had some great hits, but they also had some crap on the albums like Women and Children First Happy Trails And other album fillers Hager you got full albums, and way more of Eddie guitar work
VH fan from 1978. Also a Sammy solo fan. But when VanHagar came out, it was a "No Thanks" for me. Not my cup of tea! I don't care many records VanHagar sold. The Difference is, between AC/DC and VH, is that Brian sung all of the old songs, and Hagar refused to do most of the Roth songs. So I would never go see that in concert!!
Van Halen considered a number of different singers to replace DLR. Hagar was not their first choice. They even tried to recruit Patty Smyth from Scandal, but she got pregnant and couldn’t tour.
Gene is an excellent Bass player and unlike you, he and his heirs will live on his wealth(including of course, his songwriting royalties) for the rest of the millennium 🤙
Gene Simmons, as usual, is completely full of it. Pete Best wasn't fired because he was too good-looking. He was replaced because he wasn't a sufficiently good drummer (i.e. he had trouble keeping time). Brian Epstein and the engineers wanted a studio drummer for recording. Epstein fired Best and chose Ringo Starr as his replacement. Paul had nothing to do with anything and it was Epstein that made the switch. EDIT: "Oh-you-eight-twelve"??? This made me spit out my coffee...
SIMMONS IS ALSO LYING ABOUT PAUL FIRING PETE BECAUSE HE GOT THE GIRLS! My gawd, what a pathetic child he is. I can't believe I loved KISS when I was young. Anytime any one of them opens their mouth I get a little bit more disgusted.
"They (Van Halen) got twice as big (with Sammy)" - Gene Simmons. Too bad that's not what albums sales showed Gene. Billboard magazine and other sources show that's simply not true.
Gene simmons says you do not have to have the original members of the band? True in some cases. I say some. He obviously never heard of 10.000 Maniacs. There will never be a replacement for Natalie Merchant. Especially when her replacement sings her songs. I say that and at the same time i like van halen better with sammy as well.
Love Dave and the early Van Halen , but Dave couldn't hold a tune if he had a radio in his pocket in comparison to Sammy's vocals , best Dave song is not with Van halen those we're good times Damm Good times ..
Yeah right "BIGGER" like becoming an opening act for Bon Jovi 😂 Hagar turned van Halen into REO speed wagon. Just for the record the last tour made more money than all the hagar era tours combined.
I love both versions of VH. I've always judged them separately, on their own merits, as reasonable, rational people tend to do. Never expected the latter to sound like the former and knew it wouldn't. I've loved Sammy since his early solo days. HSAS was my very first concert. Never had any desire to see VH live with DLR due to his notorious complete lack of professionalism. As affordable as tix were in those days, I have never been one to waste my money on some over-entitled a**hole, who thinks I'm there for him, rather than the other way around, only to be gypped out of a full show when he passes out after slurring his way through the wrong lyrics, and threatening to f**k some unidentifiable (read: plant or imaginary) audience member's girlfriend. Conversely, Sammy's always been a consummate professional, who appreciates and respects the people who made him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams. All of that said, Gene Simmons is just demonstrating how, to him, fame and profit matter more than everything else associated with music. He and his glorified bar band have never had an ounce of musical integrity. They put the make-up on to compensate for the lack of interest in their crappy music and they put it back on for the same reason, once virtually everyone immediately lost interest in KISS unmasked. But, we've always known he's just a marketing genius exploiting Rock 'n' Roll as his sex and money generating vehicle. At least I've always known it.
About Best; Gene is repeating an old rumour. Just listen to Best & Starr playing the same song back to back, and you´ll hear there was a musical reason for the change.
Sorry Gene, but it's been widely documented that Pete Best actually did himself in with The Beatles by not showing up to the gigs in Germany, hence Ringo Starr having to fill in for him on numerous occasions (Ringo's band, Rory & The Hurricanes were often on the same bill) . Additionally, when the group signed with EMI and had their first recording session for "Love Me Do", George Martin stated to Brian Epstein that the vocals & guitars were fine, but the Drummer had to go resulting in Martin hiring a session drummer for the next recording , and Epstein ultimately firing Pete and asking Ringo to join the band.
I saw both Sammy and Dave in concert in Sammy made you feel like he was having more fun than anybody there! Dave acted like an idiot and people were leaving halfway through his show
An opinion I happen to agree with , but still an opinion. I didn't like all the lovey dovey Van Hagar songs, Sammy's goofy hair and outfits, Eddie's dumb drill, but musically they were higher quality with Sammy.
I wish the AI voicing would stop. O U 8 1 twelve? C'mon
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I was thinking the same thing.
Yep, immediately lost me there.
Yup!
Im gonna start calling it that myself.😅
Ironically, KISS were never as good - or big - after Peter and Ace left.
KISS sucked after the original members left. Just endless albums of $ that all sounded the same. Can you compare Lick it Up with the power of Cold Gin?
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As a kid, I loved Van Halen with David Lee Roth. Then I saw them live and I couldn't figure out how Roth could sound so good on records, but was terrible on stage after just one song. A huge come down! But Sammy gave his all each and every time and kept the Van Halen flag flying as he took them to another level.
@@CarlosMartinez-hv2vj same !
Indeed, And Sammy brought "Can't Drive 55!", With him as well as playing an instrument. Singers who also play are simply better overall. They understand the whole of songs better, etc. Subtle, but true I believe.
It's personal taste. I liked Hagar better just for the fact he's a much better singer. Not interested in a "showman". Both era's had great songs however.
I prefer the frontman. A frontman grabs the attention of the crowd. And yes the Hagar years had some great songs. But the Roth years had more great songs
Same!
I agree. If you like Van Hagar, you have shit taste.
@@colonelhogan1827 oh that’s crazy wild to say . Music is subjective my guy. Even tho some of the shit I hear my kids playing is like “what the fuck” to me , I want them to love music . Our ears aren’t the same . 🤷🏻♀️ same kids tho love some great shit too, because their love of music is encouraged.
@@colonelhogan1827 Disagree. 5150 was an awesome album. They arguably peaked musically around 1984/5150.
No one loves Gene more than Gene
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OU... eight... twelve?😂
You beat me to it.
And 29 tracks. 😅
I’ve been saying it wrong all these years 😂
And so has the band… gotta love it
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Van Halen was one of the top bands in the world when Dave left. Sammy didn’t make them “bigger” but he did help sustain their success. Which era you like better is a matter of taste.
exactly I like both eras and Sammy did a fine job helping to continue riding their wave forward- people complain the Hagar era is more pop but some of Ed's best guitar is in both eras.
Roth said Van Hagar never sold better than half.
@ : Roth says a lot of goofy stuff.
@@berserker7140 because they didn’t Dave era outsold the Sammy era in a 2 to 1 ratio
Sammy exposed VH to the millennials....without him VH would be a complete and total nostalgia act.
Nothing person Gene, but Sammy never tried to be Dave, and Brian never tried to be Bon. You however put two people in Kiss and made them look like the original characters that Ace and Peter portrayed . Whether they are better for your band is debatable, but they could have portrayed different characters. Like Vinny Vincent and Eric Carr instead of trying to cash in on the popularity that Ace and Peter started with the spaceman and the cat characters. I call BS on your comments regarding replacement Band members.
Sammy and VH didn't have the same image to uphold like KISS did. The entire time without the makeup many KISS fans wanted the makeup back. Then they complained when they put it back on and kept it on with Tommy and Eric. If new characters didn't work they end. They didn't want to end. They made a smart business decision to keep their band going. They lasted almost 20 years with Tommy and Eric because they were true musicians and great bandmates.
Great comment
Exactly you nailed it Gene is being totally full of it KISS has been nothing but a gloried tribute act for the last 20 years WITH other people playing the Roles OF SPACE ACE and PETER the CATMAN.
Each of his examples were bands on th verge of exploding either way in typical rock band fashion. Th lead singer either got out bc his own momentum matched that of th band and it was more lucrative even w/a smaller audience... of th sonofabish just drank himself to death bc he couldn't handle th new height of success.
And Gene's choice to dress up techs as original members, demonstrates he cares more about money than th creativity of inventing new characters. Just check out his logo.
Gene and Paul OWN THE BAND and the likenesses of the characters. They can employ whomever they want as the band characters, as that is a unique thing about KISS.
Gene loves to be relevant even if it means making gossip up
What is he making up?
Actually Gene says all this to justify Tommy Thayer wearing Ace's makeup saying he's the Spaceman as Ace was Space Ace, and getting Eric Singer wearing Peter's makeup calling him The Catman. Now this tool with his partner in crime, Paul Stanley trying to shove a twenty million dollar train wreck aka known as the KISS Avatars down our throats. That shit will never fly. I'm surprised Gene didn't build the Grand Canyon looking for a penny he misplaced.
@@TheScooter1963 The Van Halen, David Lee Roth era sold over 34 million copies
Sammy Belcher Hagar sold 27 million.
Sammy Hagar's solo career has sold more than 50 million albums worldwide, (18 Solo Albums)
David Lee Roth, solo album sales are estimated to be 57 million. (He's released 6 solo albums.)
One thing you could bet your house on. If Gene Simmons or Paul Stanley are talking, The truth won't be told!"
Jerk totally un talented!
actually most of what he says here is correct
As awesome as Sammy was in VH - VH never would have been 'VH' if Sammy was first. Eddie and Dave were 2 of the purest rockstars ever to hit the scene. Both Genetically Engineered.
Just a silly comment. So many late 70s and early 80s rock bands sold out with ballads in the mid 80s. Eddie and Sammy were both at a point where they wanted to write more love and keyboardy songs. Timing is everything.
Who cares? It's all preferences. I don't check to see who sold more or had better hits. Love Roth & Hagar. Montrose & his solo stuff is really great. The constant for me is the VH brothers. Their music, to me, was first.
Agreed 👍
Gary's work with Hurtsmile is also really good.
The VH brothers did not respect their bassist.
Correct, Sammy had HUGE shoes to fill and did so admirably...kept VH relevant when they should have been in the old age home. He deserves a ton of credit.
First Montrose album is more of a groundbreaker than VH1 (and both produced by Ted Templeman.)
Sammy Hagar had larger worldwide sales than, Roth.
of course!
Vanhalen brought Hagar out the retirement home.
@@hadleymanmusic I was listening to Hagar before he joined with Van Halen and had I gotten tired of Van Halen at that same time. They were just getting goofy. Eddie actually played some of the guitar tracks on Sammy's last album before joining Van Halen. Eddie approached Sammy at a festival and told him he was a Montrose freak and that Montrose had influenced him massively.
Overall sales of both album catalogs puts the Roth era significantly ahead. 57 million to 27 million. Not sure where you're getting your numbers.
I’d have to say you’re wrong on that. Dave outsold Sammy almost 2 to 1
Haha, the Beatles DID admit that Pete Best got all the attention from the girls, but the real reason they kicked him out was because he was a terrible drummer and George Martin didn't want him to play on any recordings. Ringo subbed on drums for a few shows and it just clicked and they kicked out Pete and asked Ringo.
When Iron Maiden fired Paul D’ianno and hired Bruce Dickinson, their sales skyrocketed!
Yet Killers is still the best maiden record in their catalog.
@@SavDog262😂 based on what? Your taste?
Van Halen wasn't a soap opera. It shouldn't be remembered as such. The entire catalogue of their material is legendary and historical. Thanks to everyone that kept it going.
Meanwhile Van Halen’s 2 all time best selling albums were:
Van Halen (1978)
1984
Both awarded Diamond 💎
10 million sales
And old school VH fans lost their minds over Eddie adding synthesizers and keyboards. So did DLR. It's one reason his time in Eddie's band came to an end. But, as soon as Sammy joined, all of a sudden, it was all his fault...Again! EDDIE'S band, not Sammy's! It's always been EDDIE'S band and EDDIE's way, or the highway.
@@brianvenners8259 I don't think it was the synths per se...Jump and I'll Wait were a perfect mixture of synth and guitar.. It was the songs. Why Can't This Be Love? Love Comes Walking In? From the guy who wrote I Can't Drive 55? C'mon... We can't blame those sappy songs totally on Eddie. Even "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" rocked hard that stuff...
@@Strange-Songs I don't know how old you are, but I'm speaking from the experience of listening in real time and on a daily basis to all of the whining and sniveling about keyboards, particularly on Jump (pretty sure I'll wait is the only other track with keyboards), while 1984 was all over the radio, and the widespread disgust with pretty much every song on that record that wasn't Panama and Hot For Teacher. That was after all the griping about the "old geezer" covers on Diver Down.
You can't really believe Sammy just walked through the door and started doing a bunch of crap Eddie didn't approve of. Get real!
VH fans of the day wanted nothing to do with keyboards and Eddie employed them even more going forward. But, you're all just more comfortable blaming the guy Eddie hired to sing in HIS band.
Musicians age and change, including Eddie. Not all of them are going to do it in a way you like.
@@brianvenners8259 I was quite young when 1984 came out but was old enough to buy the album and my friend has all the VH albums. I can imagine there were older VH fans who did not want synths on Van Halen. "Synths are for New Wave Wussy music...not rock!"
I agree it was Eddie who wanted more keyboards...not Sammy's fault but Sammy was the lyricist and melody writer who was writing these sappy songs...so they are both to blame...ha ha! Even if there were zero keyboards in Van Hagar, I still don't like the Sammy's lyrics and melodies...too corporate rock/adult contemporary for me. I love his VOA and Three Lock Box albums...loved that.
@@brianvenners8259 CORRECT.....funny how some want to forget those days. I was THERE. When "Jump" came on the radio the 70s VH fans were apoplectic. They could not believe the mighty mighty VH would make a song so silly, so vapid...so pure POP TRASH.....but guess what? The kids loved it, and so did MTV (which ruled music back then). Sammy didn't destroy VH.....Eddie did.
Someone tell Gene VH “got bigger” because they wet and put their finger to the wind and decided Pop Rock was their ticket…
100% Alot of great bands jumped full into ballads to cash in during the mid 80s.
Based on Gene's logic, the boy band MENUDO is 1#!
"For those about to rock"...Mic drop!! Brian Johnson!
The way Paul tells it he took Simmons to the VH show to see if he agreed with Paul to get them signed. Simmons vanished. Paul found him backstage talking to the group. Now, who is embellishing?
5:24 Adam asks an unexpected question and Gene has to quickly make something up, hoping someone won't fact check him. "Oh, sure! Uhm, you know, "Devil" and all that other stuff..."
It was the only song name he could (partially) think of from Van Halen I on short notice even though he was "largely instrumental" in getting the band started.
He’s also totally wrong about Pete Best.
There’s an audio on TH-cam of John Lennon saying they got Pete Best because they needed a drummer right away because they were going to Hamburg. Lennon said when they got back to England he wasn’t showing any improvement so they got Ringo. There’s another audio comparison of Pete Best and Ringo playing the same drum track and Best was inconsistent. Gene is just repeating a rumor. I’m sure you know this and Gene should know better.
Maybe...
I knew Pete… a great guy.
Gene Simmons is delusional. He loves to really shovel the bullshit.
Partly true actually, but it was more the reason why they almost kept him.
I saw Van Halen once….with Gary Cherone at the star lake near Pittsburgh, hardly anybody was there, but Eddie played magnificently. Edward was the soul of Van Halen.
Love all eras, ironically, Once with Cherone is a top 3 song for me.
They made a second album with Gary that got scrapped in 1999. They did an LP with Roth that got canned in 2000 as well. Some of those Roth songs went on to be featured on ADKOT.
i saw phish at star lake. what an absolutely stunning venue.
I wish Sammy and Ace Frehley were in a supergroup after they both Left VH+KISS. They’re practically the same people.
Nobody cares about what Gene Simmons thinks!!!
Van Halen “Zero” (demo tapes) is such awesome raw old school VH! It’s a crime that it hasn’t been released into an album that everyone of the die hard fans could buy and own! We can hear it on TH-cam, but nowhere else.
Van Halen Total sales in 1991 would have shown the Hagar era on top at the time, but then the lore took over and the old stuff started selling again in the late 90's
Van Halen debut album came out in 1978!
Journey was another band that blew up when they got a different singer.
Oh hell yeah!!
Same with Iron Maiden.
Added another
The Phillipino street rat, or the 'Oh Sherry" guy?
I hope you’re kidding. Steve Perry is one of the greatest ever. They had to search the planet to find someone who sounded identical to SP while performing the same songs to get the fans to accept the idea of carrying on without Perry.
For anyone who lived through both the Roth and Hagar eras, there is no debating that with Hagar the band reached far greater heights in terms of commercial success and critical acclaim. Four, consecutive Number One albums, the band's only Grammy, and numerous other awards and recognitions, demonstrates that fact conclusively.
Yes, the Roth era may have a slight edge in terms of album sales, but that's only part of the story. Bands make most of their money from selling tickets (i.e., touring) not from selling albums. With Hagar at the helm, Van Halen broadened its commercial appeal to a far wider audience and was one of the biggest touring draws from the 1980s into the mid 1990s.
Also, publishing rights (both composition and recording copyrights) play a large a large role the financial picture. Queen, for example, recently sold the rights to its entire catalog to Sony Music for a reported USD $1.27 BILLION. Unfortunately, Roth, in terms of being a song writer, was far less prolific contrasted against Hagar. Roth leaned heavily on cover songs pilfered from other bands (i.e., You Really Got Me, Where Have All the Good Times Gone, Ice Cream Man, Big Bad Bill, Dancing in the Streets, You're No Good, etc.) , something Hagar did only very rarely. Hagar, during his tenure, astutely wrote nearly all of the band's songs, and the band still owns the publishing rights to all of them. Also, Hagar brought in his own manager, Ed Leffler, and together they re-negotiated the band's contracts with the record company, which resulted in a far more lucrative deal for all of them.
Its not even close,Hagar is great and had 4 number 1 albums,but Diamond Dave,s era has the best material and two albums that have reached diamond status.which means over 10,000,000 a piece.
Van Halen, Van Hagar. Different bands, love em both. However, i prefer the Roth years.
Not me. Van Cherone > Van Roth
I'm not certain but I think the Hagar era earned more Number #1s, and the Roth era made more money overall. That's good going, either way! In any case, I *love* both eras of the band. Heck, I even love two or three songs from the Cherone album too! 😅
@@MisterMooster - My younger brother and I just had virtually the same conversation!
@@MisterMoosteryour wrong he could never sing. So you know not what you are talking about!!! Hager can sing that’s the difference you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you dude.
@ Did you see them live? Still have that opinion?
Pitch and screams please. Can’t sing saw them live and Sammy a thousand time better.
Dave sucked live. Sammy killed it.
@ No full of it. He was never good live. He never would sing a hole song. He would yell and scream.
Dave can’t sing Sammy can that’s it. Dave could never sing early in career or later he’s garbage. Can Dave sing dreams ever? You know the answer!!!! Nope can’t never could. You’re delusional….
Gene fulfills a lot of negative stereotypes.
$300,000,000 of them.
Like what stereotypes?
Van Hagar benefited from MTV and VH1 platforms. The original lineup also benefited from MTV airplay, especially the 1984 album. They would have continued with Roth but as you know the implosion happened. Credit to Hagar as he took full advantage of the situation and with his vocal and writing skills just killed it.
That being said, The Roth era is still the most popular and sold almost double the Van Hagar era.
Iron Butterfly's first guitarist on record was Danny Weis. When he was replaced by Erik Brann the band exploded in popularity and was later awarded the first in house platinum album award by Atlantic.
I have heard rumors that went Van Halen was signed The record company did not want David Lee Roth as the singer . It was suggested that Sammy Hagar would be better.
I knew the guys in the band that got signed instead of Van Halen. They recorded just one album that went nowhere.
I remember reading an interview with Gene Simmons and he claimed to have discovered Cinderella.
100% 👍😂
I thought Jon Bon Jovi did?
So it's his fault
@@RiffsnRhythms Jon Bon Jovi actually did, and got them signed to Mercury Records. Gene Simmons claimed to have worked with them years before. Personally, I give Jon the credit. He not only got them signed, but also took them on tour.
@@charliec5653 being a jersey boy myself that’s the story I’ve always understood. Since the end of Kiss, Gene is on his shit talking tour to bring buzz about his new project. lol
Gene is a numbers guy - I'm a Sammy fan , but album sales went down subsequently with each album with Hagar . I think the last bump up in sales was with Balance. The Dave era sold way more . 1984 sold over 10 million. They wouldn't see that number again in their careers.
oh you ate TWELVE, lol
OU8 twelve?? Come on!!
Kiss wasn't the same when they lost Ace... they will never be able to say otherwise. You can sell more but doesn't mean it was the way you broke through and became as large as you ever were in around 1977.
Agreed.. Ace was their sound..
KISS had lost popularity looooong before Ace left - years, in fact. By the time they released their '78 solo albums and record stores were returning them, the writing was on the wall....
What they got with Hagar was radio play. They were already huge
Hagar was well known too, a household name thanks to MTV
No they were indoor venue, then they blew up and became stadium rock.
Hagar was just as good as Roth. Screw Dave's girlfriends crying in the comments.
No where near Roth
No Voice Dave 😂👍
Sam can sing! Dave now sounds like a feral cat that got its tail ran over.....
Nah, Sam can't hit low notes at all, and his lyrics are insipid. DLR was blues rock Sammy is pop rock.
Roth era is great but lyrics are nonsensical and goofy. Recorded basically live and one time. Sure it’s genuine but sounds really dated. I like both but prefer Sammy as it’s still Eddie playing along with more emotional songs. I’m not always pounding 16oz Budweisers to meaningless Roth era jams, so Sammy works better for my daily commute to work etc. Way more substance and idc if it’s more commercial. It just sounds way better. If you’re hitting the booze and rails, ya sure Roth fits the scene.
Van- Hagar Sammy took them to the stratosphere! The band grew up woke up and made
Great music. Van Halen play my high school for lunch once 1977 they were in some back yard parties good times
'Oh You Ate Twelve' LOL
Kind of funnier than the original concept.
just because they sold more albums does not mean they were making better music, but with gene its all about the almighty $$$, even if the creativity and art suffer
But they didn’t sell more albums. That’s the kicker
Van Halen 1 has sold more Worldwide than all Sammy albums put together
WRONGGGG@@BillBlazejowski
@@TerryRoss-u1vVan Halen 1 and 1984 combined sold more than all Van Hagar albums combined.
@pdx816 NOOOOOO it didn't!!!
Roth can’t hang with Hagar … Voices apart Sammy’s pipes like Roth who
Paul McCartney never did come clean about why they fired their first drummer. But it was because he got all the attention.
The Beatles producer hated Pete Best’s drumming when they got their first break as recording artists and would only use session drummers. The Beatles already played with Ringo in Hamburg and knew he was a better fit with the band.
My god, have you heard the tracks with Pete? He's terrible.
That’s not the reason the Beatles dropped Pete Best. Listen to him play on anthology one. He didn’t play well and George Martin thought he was playing so bad that he wanted a studio musician to play when they the next time they recorded.
@Nesgimp I guess Pete wa the Best drummer
They had the same problem with Ringo. In fact, in 95% of bands with musicians that age? It is true. Even if you've got a drummer that is technically really good & say hes 18. Getting that kid to play what's needed vs what he just feels like playing is virtually impossible & it takes too much time. Or its the opposite. You have a drummer thats ok enough to keep a beat but he can't do anything else thats needed. Ringo & Best were about the same skill level. This story stands up that Gene tells.
I'm not saying that's not true but it's hard to believe that Pete Best couldn't drum to "Love Me Do." Maybe George Martin not used to working with untrained musicians was being overly cautious. I was a drummer for years. I could take anybody off the street who never played drums before, and in less than half an hour teach them to drum to "Love Me Do."
@@Cyrano66 Ya I get that. I think you're right that Martin wasn't used to working with untrained kids but theres probably even more to it than that. He & now his estate has a commercially vested interest in the legacy of McCartney, Lennon, George & Ringo.
@@thetruthchannel349 Hmm. . . that's interesting.
The music audience grew enormously from the late 70s' up into the late 80s' and 1990s'.. Market growth via MTV, more Rock radio stations and CDs sales skew the actual pound for pound numbers and data elements.
Demographics and technology. Yep.
Not knocking Brian but it wasn’t because of him that AC/DC blew up. They were on a very steady trajectory and were poised to blow up even with Bon. The BIB songs were perfectly crafted and all Brian had to do was be solid and keep the vibe of the band intact. Which he certainly did. But apart from a well deserved live tour loyalty, that has lasted to this day, their studio albums have always done less business after BIB. There’s no lyrics from Brian that are memorable or have stood the test of time like Bon’s lyrics. It’s a big part of the magic of the Bon era.
Brian always sounded like he was screaming through a constipated shit to me, but overall did a good job replacing a guy that sounded like a troll. Still an iconic band despite the weird sounding singers.
Ok Gene, you're a cop!
-airheads
House of Pain has Gene Simmons singing...."Pain". And YES ...Van Halen's Gene Simmons Demos is not only awsome sounding. It's GOLD. Gene should be proud for his work with Van Halen.
I bought their first album on CD and i remember in the liner notes them thinking Gene Simmons and wondering "whats that all about?" But now i know from Genes story.
LOL! Gene bought Dave High heels & leather pants to audition for Kiss's gay manager. Now that's Gene's keen business sense at work!
Yea...but KISS didnt get bigger without Ace n Peter,they were not even in the same relm without Ace n Peter..so just face it Gene...you NEED Ace and Peter if your going full make up..
Amen 🤘👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I SEEN VH WITH ROTH AND THEN WITH SAMMY... SAMMY IS A REAL MUSICIAN.... ROTH RELIED ON GIMMICK.... DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS
Wolfgang can replicate his dad's playing, but he has his own thing going.
True, Van Hagar was bigger than Van Halen with Roth, but Kiss NEVER, EVER, attained the success they had in 76/77 with Ace and Peter, period
KISS was a cartoon act from Day One and nothing more. Just because a lot of NON rock and roll types bought into their nonsense doesnt make them anything more than a joke with a lot of money. Simmons has always been a businessman not a musician....
@ they became a cartoon, but didn’t start that way, and people way more influential than you and me within the music world, like Tom Morello, give KISS a ton of credit. So do the guys from Rush. Other than that, completely agreed
Like kiss or not, kiss remains one of the biggest and most influential bands of all time
@ 110% agreed
When gene talks about replacing band members you can tell he takes it personal since so many Kiss fans are upset with the way they treated Ace & Peter through the years him and Paul wanting the majority of money and trying to treat them as hired guns kissing their butts like Tommy and Eric did
Jump was the only hit songwise. VH1 sold 16M. But commerce. Real music endures. Not hits.
For that time Jump was a killer tune. As for 'hits' its not even about people buying the music. People buy the music because they're not given a choice. Hits are bought not sold.
There were a few other hits than just Jump. "Dance the Night Away" hit 15 on the Top 40 in '79.
Huh?
Come on Gene I think all them groupies rattled your brain bro? Van Halen was David Lee Roth. The chicks, the parties, the coke, the travel. That's rock and roll. Yeah Sammy was great, but nothing like the old Van Halen. After Back In Black, every ACDC album sounded the same, one after the other. Bon Scott was ACDC. Brian was just the replacement singer
I prefer the Bonn Scott era of AC/DC and Dave as Van Halen's front man, but both replacements were great.
When Gene is defending you, you've got a problem. "BIG" = cash. For the listener it's not about the cash.
Van Halen did not "get bigger" without DLR. They got a corporate push but never sold more records or tickets. Much of VanHagar's success was based on the previous reputation of the band. VH's biggest albums are both DLR on the mic.
Not looking at first/original releases! DLR Van Halen albums have more sales because they were resold multiple times - original release in album form; release in cassette, release in CD. Looking at original sales - Hagar outsells them
Have to remember the early Van Halen numbers were bolstered by the fact that we start out with records had to buy the cassette and then when CDs came along, we all had to go out and buy the CD by the time Hager came along. We were just buying the CD the early stuff had some great hits, but they also had some crap on the albums like Women and Children First Happy Trails And other album fillers Hager you got full albums, and way more of Eddie guitar work
VH fan from 1978. Also a Sammy solo fan. But when VanHagar came out, it was a "No Thanks" for me. Not my cup of tea! I don't care many records VanHagar sold.
The Difference is, between AC/DC and VH, is that Brian sung all of the old songs, and Hagar refused to do most of the Roth songs. So I would never go see that in concert!!
Dave roth got his moves from jim dandy of black oak Arkansas check it out
With Pete Best it was mostly drumming abilities that prompted the firing also .😉
Van Halen considered a number of different singers to replace DLR. Hagar was not their first choice. They even tried to recruit Patty Smyth from Scandal, but she got pregnant and couldn’t tour.
Sure thing gene… It’s always funny to me when businessmen talk about musicians, that can play an instrument…
Hubba bubba..
Gene is an excellent Bass player and unlike you, he and his heirs will live on his wealth(including of course, his songwriting royalties) for the rest of the millennium 🤙
Gene Simmons, as usual, is completely full of it. Pete Best wasn't fired because he was too good-looking. He was replaced because he wasn't a sufficiently good drummer (i.e. he had trouble keeping time). Brian Epstein and the engineers wanted a studio drummer for recording. Epstein fired Best and chose Ringo Starr as his replacement. Paul had nothing to do with anything and it was Epstein that made the switch.
EDIT: "Oh-you-eight-twelve"??? This made me spit out my coffee...
SIMMONS IS ALSO LYING ABOUT PAUL FIRING PETE BECAUSE HE GOT THE GIRLS!
My gawd, what a pathetic child he is. I can't believe I loved KISS when I was young. Anytime any one of them opens their mouth I get a little bit more disgusted.
"They (Van Halen) got twice as big (with Sammy)" - Gene Simmons. Too bad that's not what albums sales showed Gene. Billboard magazine and other sources show that's simply not true.
“Oh U8 twelve”????? It’s “Oh You Ate One Too”
I'm ordering a money bag hat NOW !
Gene simmons says you do not have to have the original members of the band? True in some cases. I say some.
He obviously never heard of 10.000 Maniacs. There will never be a replacement for Natalie Merchant. Especially when her replacement sings her songs.
I say that and at the same time i like van halen better with sammy as well.
OU8 twelve 😂😂. Is this narrator AI?
Jacob Deraps is the only current guitar player who I believe can channel Eddie Van Halen.
Dweezil
@@matts6771 DZ just isn't there, and never will be. Deraps does it effortlessly with the same vibe and charm.
Personalities make a sound…. Take away one personality or add a personality to a band it changes the SOUND and the MUSIC…..
OU8-twelve? The joke in the title is oh you ate one too?
Paul was a little jealous of Pete Best but George Martin pointed out Pete wasn't cutting it
A I voices have no soul ...like Roth....no soul....that's why Sammy was such an improvement.
Love Dave and the early Van Halen , but Dave couldn't hold a tune if he had a radio in his pocket in comparison to Sammy's vocals , best Dave song is not with Van halen those we're good times Damm Good times ..
Yes Roth is my favorite too. He was Van Halen. But he got too goofy I think. Must have led to his departure
Yeah right "BIGGER" like becoming an opening act for Bon Jovi 😂 Hagar turned van Halen into REO speed wagon. Just for the record the last tour made more money than all the hagar era tours combined.
I love both versions of VH. I've always judged them separately, on their own merits, as reasonable, rational people tend to do. Never expected the latter to sound like the former and knew it wouldn't.
I've loved Sammy since his early solo days. HSAS was my very first concert. Never had any desire to see VH live with DLR due to his notorious complete lack of professionalism. As affordable as tix were in those days, I have never been one to waste my money on some over-entitled a**hole, who thinks I'm there for him, rather than the other way around, only to be gypped out of a full show when he passes out after slurring his way through the wrong lyrics, and threatening to f**k some unidentifiable (read: plant or imaginary) audience member's girlfriend.
Conversely, Sammy's always been a consummate professional, who appreciates and respects the people who made him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams.
All of that said, Gene Simmons is just demonstrating how, to him, fame and profit matter more than everything else associated with music. He and his glorified bar band have never had an ounce of musical integrity. They put the make-up on to compensate for the lack of interest in their crappy music and they put it back on for the same reason, once virtually everyone immediately lost interest in KISS unmasked. But, we've always known he's just a marketing genius exploiting Rock 'n' Roll as his sex and money generating vehicle.
At least I've always known it.
About Best; Gene is repeating an old rumour. Just listen to Best & Starr playing the same song back to back, and you´ll hear there was a musical reason for the change.
The only KISS is the ORIGINAL version.
Just like Gene's original face.
Over the years, Gene's costume just got worse. Even his last makeup design looked like garbage.
Sorry Gene, but it's been widely documented that Pete Best actually did himself in with The Beatles by not showing up to the gigs in Germany, hence Ringo Starr having to fill in for him on numerous occasions (Ringo's band, Rory & The Hurricanes were often on the same bill) . Additionally, when the group signed with EMI and had their first recording session for "Love Me Do", George Martin stated to Brian Epstein that the vocals & guitars were fine, but the Drummer had to go resulting in Martin hiring a session drummer for the next recording , and Epstein ultimately firing Pete and asking Ringo to join the band.
Gene is just too full of Gene 😅 Just ask him. He knows everything LMAO
I saw both Sammy and Dave in concert in Sammy made you feel like he was having more fun than anybody there! Dave acted like an idiot and people were leaving halfway through his show
You said 'OU812 ' WRONG!
A.I.
@@ChrisP3000x LOL! Thought as much!
A isn't very I!
when roth was in van halen they made more albums so thats why they sold more than hagar was their leadsinger.
Bullshit. Spewing nonsense . Do your research
KISS is not a Rock band, it's a joke. Gene Simmons cheated on his gf for years and has a huge ego.
VAN HALEN with "DIAMOND DAVE BaBY !!
OU812 IS PRONOUNCED, "OH YOU ATE ONE TOO". AS A HISTORIAN YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.
The original Van Halen was the best.Nothing can replace that
An opinion I happen to agree with , but still an opinion. I didn't like all the lovey dovey Van Hagar songs, Sammy's goofy hair and outfits, Eddie's dumb drill, but musically they were higher quality with Sammy.