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Why did you say @ 5:10 +/- ,, Israel RETALIATE against Iran ? Israel. Is the AGRESSOR , hitting Iran again & again . ISRAEL is the START of any violence when Iran re-ci-pro- cate the Israeli ATTACK . - What happen to you , - You have turn to become a Zionist defender ?
We all know that prices of almost everything aren’t coming down. Simply put, they're rising less. Costs are rising due to rising inflation. As we are evidently at the verge of hyperinflation, with the less haves bearing the brunt of the burden. I'm more concerned that the rising inflation may lead my entire $990k retirement funds to lose value. Where else could we put our cash?
I would say the fin-market, but it is volatile at this time, hence i will suggest you get yourself a financial-advisor that can provide you with entry and exit points on any shares/ETF you focus on.
you are completely right, Advisors have information and paths that are not disclosed to the public.. I profited $560k in 2023 under the tutelage of my Fiduciary-counselor. Am I selling? Absolutely not.. I am going to sit back and observe how this all plays out.
'Sharon Ann Meny' is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment
Recession! Crash! Inflation! It’s getting depressing. I have about $100k in emergency fund and I have been seeing good news about the stock market and would like to gain from that since I can’t let my savings be corroded by inflation. What stocks should I into as a newbie to safely grow my money.
It’s best if you buy growth/blue-chip/large caps stocks only. Also, as a newbie its advisable you work with an investment advisor to help set up a well-structured portfolio.
I was self managing but suffered heavy losses in 2022 and i knew i couldn't continue like that, so i consulted a fiduciary financial advisor. By restructuring and diversifying my $620k portfolio with dividend-paying stocks, ETFs, Mutual funds and REITs, I significantly boosted my portfolio, achieving an annualized gain of 30%.
Vivian Jean Wilhelm a highly respected figure in her field. I suggest delving deeper into her credentials, as she possesses extensive experience and serves as a valuable resource for individuals seeking guidance in navigating the financial market.
Interesting how over 2% inflation has been a concern when central banks and the Fed begin to hike interest rates. I consider the rising interest rate to be a very serious issue since it will undoubtedly cause more investors to withdraw their money from the stock market. But then I'm still aware of certain investors that continue to earn over $365,000. Wish I could accomplish that.
Very possible! Particularly in the current market. There are several opportunities to generate excellent returns, but such intricate transactions can only be carried out by seasoned market professionals.
AGREED! Over 3 years now, I've made over 1.7 million by simply following a coach's advice. I was on the sidelines for a while watching, trying to determine the best time to get in, before I came across a coach, recommended by my wife. I was reluctant at first but I went ahead and contacted the coach. Best decision yet
Annette Christine Conte is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I just googled her and I'm really impressed with her credentials; I reached out to her since I need all the assistance I can get. I just scheduled a caII.
It is difficult to make exact projections for the housing market as it is still unclear how quickly or to what degree the Federal Reserve will reduce inflation and borrowing costs without having a substantial negative impact on demand from consumers for anything from houses to cars.
is anything, it'll get worse. Very soon, affordable housing will no longer be affordable. So anything anyone wants to do, I will advise they do it now because the prices today will look like dips tomorrow. Until the Fed clamps down even further, I think we're going to see hysteria due to rampant inflation. You can't halfway rip the band-aid off.
The new mortgage rates are crazy, add to that the recession and the fact that mortgage rules are getting more difficult, and home prices will need to fall by a minimum of 40% (more like 50%) before the market normalizes. For now, get your money (as much as you can) out of the housing market and get into the financial markets or gold. If you are at a cross roads or need honest advice on the best moves to take now, it is best to seek an independent advisor who knows about the financial markets.
'Stacy Lynn Staples' is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
Honestly, this concerns me and has left me uneasy. Especially this potential depression, no more a recession. I'm unsure about my $130K account strategy, considering the uncertainty of this whole recession mostly.
Agreed! this is why I work with one. My $520k portfolio is well-matched for every market season yielding 85% rise from early last year to date. I and my advsor are working on more figures for this year. IMO, financial advisors are the most sought-after professionals after doctors.
CAMILLA MARIE FULLER... has always been on the top of my list..She is regarded as a genius in her area and well knowledgeable about financial markets. I highly recommend you look her up if you want excellent collaboration.
.Thank you for this tip. it was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her résumé.
The only American who won't acknowledge this Administration's failed economic policies is Joe Biden. "Shrink-flation' is the least of our worries compared to rising rents and stagnant wages, but it is an undeniable indicator of how bad our inflation has gotten. I have $100k that i like to invest in a non-retirement account, any advice on that?
I would avoid index funds, mutual funds, and specific stocks for the time being. Right now, the best option is a fixed income of five percent. Put money aside for the times when the market really starts to bounce back.
45% of Americans do not invest in the stock market because of lack of guidance. Every year you don't invest, you are falling behind. I’m hitting numbers in the stock market I used to dream of… Going from $50k to $600k in my portfolio is surreal all thanks to insights from my financial advisor.
'Carol Vivian Constable, a highly respected figure in her field. I suggest delving deeper into her credentials, as she possesses extensive experience and serves as a valuable resource for individuals seeking guidance in navigating the financial market.
My greatest concern is how to recover from all these economic and global troubles and stay afloat especially with the political power tussle going on in our country.
Inflation can have a significant impact on individuals and their cost of living. As a result, it can cause negative market sentiment. It is important for individuals and businesses to find ways to navigate and potentially mitigate the effects of inflation on their finances. The current economic climate, including underperformance of financial markets due to fear of inflation, has led to a decrease in the value of my portfolio. I would appreciate any recommendations on how to potentially increase returns during this market downturn.
Such market uncertainties are the reason I don’t base my market judgements and decisions on rumors and here-says, got the best of me 2020 and had me holding worthless position in the market, I had to revamp my entire portfolio through the aid of an advisor, before I started seeing any significant results happens in my portfolio, been using the same advisor and I’ve scaled up $450k within 2 years, whether a bullish or down market, both makes for good profit, it all depends on where you’re looking.
There are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with Melissa Elise Robinson for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look her up.
Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.
Diversification is the secret to optimal performance. This is why I have my interests set on market sectors based on performance and projected growth, such as the EV sector, renewable energy, Tech, and Health. Keep investing regularly and you'll be blown away how much it can change in a few short years. Here's to $1 million and to FIRE
Safest approach is to diversify investments. By spreading investments across different asset classes, like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown. its important to seek the guidance of an expert
A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.
@@mikegarvey17This is definitely considerable! think you could suggest any professional/advisors i can get on the phone with? i'm in dire need of proper portfoIlo allocation
*Izella Annette Anderson* is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. By looking her up online, you can quickly verify her level of experience. She is well knowledgeable about financial markets.
The US economy is already in recession. Any rate cut will not ignite inflation. The banks will tighten even more, all consumer and corporate credit lending. This is the beginning of a deflationary period for your assets. Stocks markets will decline, and stock values disappear in a blink of the eye. Businesses will begin layoffs in earnest which will soon be reflected in the unemployment rate and unemployment claims, to further solidify the recession. In fact, when the FED cut rates in Sept, it will signify that the Titanic is going under, and it will suck everything down. Retail and housing sales will truly decline as consumer hold off their purchases. The inverted yield curve will then turn positive, but remember, certain assets like stocks and Crypto’s acts as a hedge. Long & short-term trading is generally safer, allowing investors to weather market volatility. I have managed to grow a nest egg of around 130k to a decent 532k in the space of a few months... I'm especially grateful to Alison Bruce Crypto, whose deep expertise and traditional trading acumen have been invaluable in this challenging, ever-evolving financial landscape.
I' ve got $50,000 to invest. I want to build a nest egg for when I'm older. I want to know if it's a good idea to add all my savings into a long term ETF, set and forget Come back in 20-30 years, instead of 250-300 DCA every month. Which ETF would you recommend.?
As they say, 'time IN the market is better than trying to time the market'. I think you should seek advice from a licensed financial advisor. They’ll give you guide on high risk and low risk investment strategies for your portfolio.
I’m working towards financial freedom with a focus on dividends & growth investing. Since 2019, I’ve built a portfolio made up of 50% SCHD, 25% SCHG, and 25% VOO, thanks to my financial advisor. This strategy has helped me earn $36,000 a year in dividends. Back in 2019, I only earned $21 in dividends.
Sophia Irene Powell is the licensed advisor I use and im just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.
Thanks for sharing. I curiously searched for her full name and her website popped up immediately. I looked through her credentials and did my due diligence before contacting her.
October historically proved to be one of the most volatile months for stocks. With this uncertainty looming, I'm at crossroads deciding if to liquidate my $250k portfolio and get back in after the election, or should I buy more stocks in a promised bullish November?
I agree, over 50 years of data reveals that those who work with financial experts typically earn more than those who do it alone. I've been fortunate enough to utilize an advisor for 4years now, resulting in a 7 figure portfolio after 100s of thousands invested so far.
would you mind sharing basic info please? how to earn regular income with my inheritance money has been my daily thought, thus the search for a reputable advisor
‘’Aileen Gertrude Tippy’’ is my FA. Just google the name and you’d find necessary deets. To be honest, I almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, but so glad I did.
thanks for the lead. I just searched Aileen by her full name and easily spotted her profile, no sweat. I have sent her an email, hoping she gets back to me soon
Hate to sound like a gold bug but gold is doing one of its catch up bull runs that typically last for a decade and when it does that it sometimes eve outperforms the SP500, what’s interesting is that it’s ripping higher even while the DXY is going up which is unusual as they are often considered inversely correlated. It might steal some global liquidity from bitcoin and mess up the normal cycles approach. I wouldn’t be surprised to see gold outperform a lot of assets in the short term, but the long term for btc looks very bright... I have managed to grow a nest egg of around 2.3Bitcoin to a decent 24Bitcoin. in the space of a few months... I'm especially grateful to Sandy Barclay’s, whose deep expertise and traditional trading acumen have been invaluable in this challenging, ever-evolving financial landscape.
I agree that there are strategies that could be put in place for solid gains regardless of economy or market condition, but such executions are usually carried out by investment experts or advisors with experience.
The beauty of her approach is her dual focus: while she aggressively pursues profit opportunities, she's equally tenacious about shielding investors from potential pitfalls. It's a balance few can achieve.
👍 Thanks David and Rick, great conversation and insights, again. Rick is so articulate and apt at peeling one layer at a time of a complex issue but equally commend David for his ability to pose the right questions, as if he is reading your mind.
He's spot on that,.. 1. inflation is higher than repprted and 2. you can't value inflation by the inflation rate,.. you have to look at the loss in purchasing power of the currency. Say an average inflation rate of 4% over the last 40 years sounds relatively tame,... but if you look at the loss in purchasing power as the apparent low inflation rate compounds,.. it can be devastating, especially to those on fixed incomes. (1.04^40) = 4.8 to have the same value of a dollar from 40 years ago,.. you need almost 5 times more dollars,.. just to stay even. 3. Deficit spending is printing money. From QTM Inflation = deficit spending as a percent of GDP - real GDP growth 8% of GDP spending generating a 1 to 3% real GDP growth rate = about 5% real inflation. As long as this insanegovernment is deficit spending more than real GDP growth there will be inflation. In summary,... BUY, BUY, BUY,.......................... GLD for an inflation hedge and SMR for the move in the high tech's,.. not to mention emerging markets,... to power their data centers etc with small nuclear reactors.
Hi David, I have to agree with Rick, your channel and intelligent interview style is awesome and it is my regular pleasure to enjoy the education you bring with your brilliant guests and brilliant preparation for the interviews! I'm with you since Kitco, keep up the good work! 🙂
Due to the concerns about oil prices and global economic instability that can significantly impact the stock market, I'm considering diversifying my portfolio of $200k to hedge against downturns but unsure of the best strategy to do so.
Predictions about market often turn out to be wrong. You should consult with an expert to help you diverse your port safely so you don’t get burnt by your emotions
It's better to be prepared even if nothing happens. Having a diversified portfolio can protect us from other risks. I was going solo without much success until my wife introduced me to an advisor. I've achieved over 80% capital growth this year, excluding dividends. Highly recommend!
Marissa Lynn Babula is the licensed fiduciary I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment..
*Marissa Lynn Babula* is the advisr I use and i'm just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.
Rick is absolutely right that inflation over the 2000 - 2024 period averaged 7.6%!!! And it was due entirely to QE and government deficit spending. This causation became undeniable from the high inflation that followed the massive QE and deficit spending during the pandemic.
With these uncertain economic conditions and heightened tensions, I think i'm ready for a more risky investment so I won't lose my savings to inflation. I'm considering investing over $200k in stocks. However, I'm uncertain about best strategies to use.
Consider hiring financial advisors, estate planners or tax experts. They can provide specialized knowledge and help you navigate complex financial decisions.
Speaking with an advisor helped me grow my portfolio to about 65% since Q3 2023, They have strategies that are specifically suited to your long-term objectives and financial aspirations.
Partnering with a financial advisor has transformed my approach to investing. Their expertise and personalized guidance have not only helped me navigate complex financial markets but also optimized my portfolio to achieve my long-term goals efficiently.
What's perplexing me is that producers will still produce - no scarcity. No one will be able to buy what they are making...i.e. deflation. Ask Stellantis.
39:26 - I would state it the other way around.... demand will keep pace with supply. It is like a fire burning... a fire will burn any and all combustible material it comes into contact with. If we discover new sources of energy, we will find uses for it... and ALL energy we can find WILL be used.
So, the dollar is the cleanest shirt in the dirty clothes hamper. I don't have a problem accepting the thesis that there is still strong demand for dollars (for international settlements); but where I have the problem is understanding how anyone in the world (certainly any intelligent people in positions of wealth and power) can take the US seriously in terms of its runaway spending, debts, and deficits (to say nothing of the strong-arm tactics). We export our inflation. Our trading partners send us real goods, and accept our dollars for payment--but they're holding their nose while they're doing it. To say the least, it's not a win-win. Great show, as usual. Rick is amazing, and I look forward to checking out his bank.
I'd definitely jump on the boat if I knew a thing or two about day-trading, but then again what do I really know? I'm just looking for the right moves to grow and hedge my stagnant reserve of $370k from inflation.
Strategic investment is critical. My ideal investment is a diverse combination of stocks, bonds, and ETFs. It provides an excellent long-term return and has performed admirably thus far, but I needed to diversify my portfolio at some point, so I approached a coach who devised a system that aligned with my targets; so far, I've made a whopping $580k, and scaling my portfolio to a million by the end of the year does not seem too far-fetched to me.
Finding financial advisors like Stacy Lynn Staples who can assist you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.
@@DaveG-qd6ug I think he accidentally offended a coal miner. Those guys are notoriously tough cookies. Truth is, he probably had a tooth extracted and that was blood on his lip from that operation. I'm gonna stick with the bar fight though!
@@ChronicMike3 That might be true, but he also absorbed the thick end of a pool cue across his teeth, then the guy kicked Rick in the nuts and stomped his head with a boot while telling him "your mama's a hoe".
Mr. Rule - Learnt a lot from you listening to you over the years. Thanks! You seem to be hurt on your lip...hope you are ok and wish that you feel better soon....
For a $1B, US is able to build around 50 miles of high speed tracks. China builds around 1,500 miles for the same money…the cost of US infrastructure is not sustainable.
UNG is pretty beat up. Trouble is, Nat Gas is essentially unlimited, especially now that US oil rigs stopped flaring. Doomberg noted the engine switching to Nat Gas is inevitable. Good for the environment actually and eventually, good for Nat Gas companies. But for now, I wouldn't be surprised if UNG went so low it had to reverse split. I sell options on UNG weekly but my yield is coming down as the price decline. Maybe a cold snap my give it a price spike? But I wouldn't buy n hold
Most people commenting on energy scarcity, don't seem to understand it. There is absolutely no energy scarcity: the sun, wind, waves provide almost infinite energy. The issue is conversion into a useful form. It is a conversion issue, and solar and batteries have solved that.
You're doing a fantastic job! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
The guest speaks to current US dollar strength. He is right. Does this ring any bells ..... Slowly, then Suddenly ? BRICS has not actually mentioned anything about common currency, that is media speculation. They ask that question all the time. They have spoken about messaging systems, clearance systems, BRICS bank and a host of other things. They are currently trading in there own currency's and that is working. An analouge currency to the dollar is not required. Just walk away and Suddenly happens!!!!
There is no case that the asset price inflation we’re seeing is in any way a re-take of the great inflation of the 1970’s. You might expect that a loss of purchasing power in the currency may resemble the 1970 stagflation, however. The loss of purchasing means debt may require a revaluation of gold prices. I don’t know if excoriating policy makers for the inevitable is valid when the root cause of inflation is private money creation. CPI is reliable in the sense that it doesn’t reflect private money creation, which affects everything.
I just want my money to keep growing faster than inflation. That’s why I’m looking for companies to invest my retirement savings of $250K I have sitting in the bank. I just don’t know the best strategies to use to make solid gains with steady cash flow.
I agree. Based on personal experience working with a financįal advisor, I currently have $2 million in a well-diversified portfolio that has experienced exponential growth from when i started. It's not only about having money to invest in, but you also need to be knowledgeable, persistent, and have strong hands to back it up.
I have worked with a few financial advisors before now but i ultimately settled for Melissa Terri Swayne. She is SEC regulated and licensed in US. You can easily look her up
Unfortunately, not all of us were financially literate early. I was 35 when I finally educated myself and started taking steps. I went from $176,000 in debt with zero savings or retirement to now, 2 years later, fully debt-free and over $1000,000 net worth. I know that doesn't SOUND like a lot, but I'm incredibly proud of it. Now I'm fast-tracking my wealth building (investing $400,000 annually) and don't owe a dime to anyone. It's a good feeling!
I Met Mrs Kiana Daniel last year for the first time at a church program, where she greeted a friend of mine also a church member, and fortunately for me, we exchanged contact and got along. What God cannot do, doesn't exist" I truly believe this word 100 percent❤❤❤
Inflation alone will not adequately reduce Social Security in real terms because benefits are adjusted annually based on the CPI. Even though the CPI understates inflation, CPI-based increases would speed the insolvency of SS. Congress needs to be desperate enough to make changes to SS. It seems impossible until it’s necessary.
The cost of auto repair, the cost to finance a car, the cost to insure a car are all going up without end. Most young people in America don’t want to do the hard work it takes to repair a car. Oh yes they will say, I love working on cars, but when they discover it’s hard work, after few days; they quit. - And, I say good luck if you think you might employ them for elder care. I would fear for anyone under their care. - Better look after your health, or move to another country - maybe….
Would this guest be able to clear my small doubt? Broad money in the economy as a share of monetarily measured nominal annual GDP was about 0.5 times in 1960. It has seen a secular and steady increase over the years. It is more than 1.5 times the monetarily measured nominal annual GDP today. Let me translate it for non-economists. My blood pressure was 115/70 when I was born in 1960. My blood pressure has steadily increased over the years and now it reads 345/210. What would that mean? Anyone interested in economics can answer this question. Kindly do not come back with a "the economy has grown" answer, that would be stupid, and I am being nice here! Just like a higher BP would have altered my body's structure and makeup and turned it into a powder keg, waiting to blow -up. Why have I yet to receive an answer to this question? What are the central banks doing? What is the economic academia doing? Unfortunately, our mainstream macroeconomics is as much of a Voodoo as Modern Monetary Theory.
Inflation is not inevitable. It is the result of expansion of the monetary supply without a corresponding increase in the production of goods and services. Shut down the Federal Reserve system and the ability to finance government deficits and the inflation stops.
I moved to the countryside in 21 to reduce my expenses and therefore work less. My monthly expenses have not been reduced though, because groceries, fuel, insurance, taxes and construction materials prices have doubled.
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People don't agree with any of it because the baseline premise is based on a falsehood-- that the CPI inflation metric is honest.
Why did you say @ 5:10 +/- ,,
Israel RETALIATE against Iran ?
Israel. Is the AGRESSOR , hitting Iran again & again .
ISRAEL is the START of any violence when Iran re-ci-pro- cate the Israeli ATTACK .
-
What happen to you ,
-
You have turn to become a Zionist defender ?
We all know that prices of almost everything aren’t coming down. Simply put, they're rising less. Costs are rising due to rising inflation. As we are evidently at the verge of hyperinflation, with the less haves bearing the brunt of the burden. I'm more concerned that the rising inflation may lead my entire $990k retirement funds to lose value. Where else could we put our cash?
I would say the fin-market, but it is volatile at this time, hence i will suggest you get yourself a financial-advisor that can provide you with entry and exit points on any shares/ETF you focus on.
you are completely right, Advisors have information and paths that are not disclosed to the public.. I profited $560k in 2023 under the tutelage of my Fiduciary-counselor. Am I selling? Absolutely not.. I am going to sit back and observe how this all plays out.
How can I reach this advisers of yours? because I'm seeking for a more effective investment approach on my savings?
'Sharon Ann Meny' is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment
Thanks, i did a quick web search and i found Sharon, i hope she responds to my mail.
Recession! Crash! Inflation! It’s getting depressing. I have about $100k in emergency fund and I have been seeing good news about the stock market and would like to gain from that since I can’t let my savings be corroded by inflation. What stocks should I into as a newbie to safely grow my money.
It’s best if you buy growth/blue-chip/large caps stocks only. Also, as a newbie its advisable you work with an investment advisor to help set up a well-structured portfolio.
I was self managing but suffered heavy losses in 2022 and i knew i couldn't continue like that, so i consulted a fiduciary financial advisor. By restructuring and diversifying my $620k portfolio with dividend-paying stocks, ETFs, Mutual funds and REITs, I significantly boosted my portfolio, achieving an annualized gain of 30%.
How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you
Vivian Jean Wilhelm a highly respected figure in her field. I suggest delving deeper into her credentials, as she possesses extensive experience and serves as a valuable resource for individuals seeking guidance in navigating the financial market.
Thanks a lot for this suggestion. I needed this myself, I looked her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.
Interesting how over 2% inflation has been a concern when central banks and the Fed begin to hike interest rates. I consider the rising interest rate to be a very serious issue since it will undoubtedly cause more investors to withdraw their money from the stock market. But then I'm still aware of certain investors that continue to earn over $365,000. Wish I could accomplish that.
Very possible! Particularly in the current market. There are several opportunities to generate excellent returns, but such intricate transactions can only be carried out by seasoned market professionals.
AGREED! Over 3 years now, I've made over 1.7 million by simply following a coach's advice. I was on the sidelines for a while watching, trying to determine the best time to get in, before I came across a coach, recommended by my wife. I was reluctant at first but I went ahead and contacted the coach. Best decision yet
This sounds interesting. My portfolio is in the red. Can you recommend your analyst, please?
Annette Christine Conte is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I just googled her and I'm really impressed with her credentials; I reached out to her since I need all the assistance I can get. I just scheduled a caII.
I NEVER miss a show with Rick…..he Rules!
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Rick is an extraordinary communicator.A pleasure to learn from..
It is difficult to make exact projections for the housing market as it is still unclear how quickly or to what degree the Federal Reserve will reduce inflation and borrowing costs without having a substantial negative impact on demand from consumers for anything from houses to cars.
is anything, it'll get worse. Very soon, affordable housing will no longer be affordable. So anything anyone wants to do, I will advise they do it now because the prices today will look like dips tomorrow. Until the Fed clamps down even further, I think we're going to see hysteria due to rampant inflation. You can't halfway rip the band-aid off.
The new mortgage rates are crazy, add to that the recession and the fact that mortgage rules are getting more difficult, and home prices will need to fall by a minimum of 40% (more like 50%) before the market normalizes. For now, get your money (as much as you can) out of the housing market and get into the financial markets or gold. If you are at a cross roads or need honest advice on the best moves to take now, it is best to seek an independent advisor who knows about the financial markets.
I will be happy getting assistance and glad to get the help of one, but just how can one spot a reputable one?
'Stacy Lynn Staples' is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find her handler, She seems very proficient and flexible. I booked a call session with her.
Mr.Rick Rule always has a very different way of thinking, always learn a lot. Thanks for inviting him David. 🙏🙏
Honestly, this concerns me and has left me uneasy. Especially this potential depression, no more a recession. I'm unsure about my $130K account strategy, considering the uncertainty of this whole recession mostly.
If you lack knowledge about market investing tactics, get advice from a financial counselor.
Agreed! this is why I work with one. My $520k portfolio is well-matched for every market season yielding 85% rise from early last year to date. I and my advsor are working on more figures for this year. IMO, financial advisors are the most sought-after professionals after doctors.
I could really use the expertise of this advsors.
CAMILLA MARIE FULLER... has always been on the top of my list..She is regarded as a genius in her area and well knowledgeable about financial markets. I highly recommend you look her up if you want excellent collaboration.
.Thank you for this tip. it was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her résumé.
The only American who won't acknowledge this Administration's failed economic policies is Joe Biden. "Shrink-flation' is the least of our worries compared to rising rents and stagnant wages, but it is an undeniable indicator of how bad our inflation has gotten. I have $100k that i like to invest in a non-retirement account, any advice on that?
I would avoid index funds, mutual funds, and specific stocks for the time being. Right now, the best option is a fixed income of five percent. Put money aside for the times when the market really starts to bounce back.
45% of Americans do not invest in the stock market because of lack of guidance. Every year you don't invest, you are falling behind. I’m hitting numbers in the stock market I used to dream of… Going from $50k to $600k in my portfolio is surreal all thanks to insights from my financial advisor.
please who is the consultant that assist you with your investment and if you don't mind, how do I get in touch with them?
'Carol Vivian Constable, a highly respected figure in her field. I suggest delving deeper into her credentials, as she possesses extensive experience and serves as a valuable resource for individuals seeking guidance in navigating the financial market.
She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.
One of the clearest interviews I’ve ever heard.!!!! Kudos
My greatest concern is how to recover from all these economic and global troubles and stay afloat especially with the political power tussle going on in our country.
Inflation can have a significant impact on individuals and their cost of living. As a result, it can cause negative market sentiment. It is important for individuals and businesses to find ways to navigate and potentially mitigate the effects of inflation on their finances. The current economic climate, including underperformance of financial markets due to fear of inflation, has led to a decrease in the value of my portfolio. I would appreciate any recommendations on how to potentially increase returns during this market downturn.
Such market uncertainties are the reason I don’t base my market judgements and decisions on rumors and here-says, got the best of me 2020 and had me holding worthless position in the market, I had to revamp my entire portfolio through the aid of an advisor, before I started seeing any significant results happens in my portfolio, been using the same advisor and I’ve scaled up $450k within 2 years, whether a bullish or down market, both makes for good profit, it all depends on where you’re looking.
Could you kindly elaborate on the advisor's background and qualifications?
There are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with Melissa Elise Robinson for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look her up.
Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.
Another great show from the David Lin Report!
Rick Rule rules!
Diversification is the secret to optimal performance. This is why I have my interests set on market sectors based on performance and projected growth, such as the EV sector, renewable energy, Tech, and Health. Keep investing regularly and you'll be blown away how much it can change in a few short years. Here's to $1 million and to FIRE
Safest approach is to diversify investments. By spreading investments across different asset classes, like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown. its important to seek the guidance of an expert
A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.
@@mikegarvey17This is definitely considerable! think you could suggest any professional/advisors i can get on the phone with? i'm in dire need of proper portfoIlo allocation
@@mikegarvey17My partner’s been considering going the same route, could you share more info please on the advisor that guides you
*Izella Annette Anderson* is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. By looking her up online, you can quickly verify her level of experience. She is well knowledgeable about financial markets.
The US economy is already in recession. Any rate cut will not ignite inflation. The banks will tighten even more, all consumer and corporate credit lending. This is the beginning of a deflationary period for your assets. Stocks markets will decline, and stock values disappear in a blink of the eye. Businesses will begin layoffs in earnest which will soon be reflected in the unemployment rate and unemployment claims, to further solidify the recession. In fact, when the FED cut rates in Sept, it will signify that the Titanic is going under, and it will suck everything down. Retail and housing sales will truly decline as consumer hold off their purchases. The inverted yield curve will then turn positive, but remember, certain assets like stocks and Crypto’s acts as a hedge. Long & short-term trading is generally safer, allowing investors to weather market volatility. I have managed to grow a nest egg of around 130k to a decent 532k in the space of a few months... I'm especially grateful to Alison Bruce Crypto, whose deep expertise and traditional trading acumen have been invaluable in this challenging, ever-evolving financial landscape.
Alisonbruce… that’s her name on
TE LEGRAM…
Got a chance to benefit from her services a few weeks ago and it has been a very smooth experience.
Alison Bruce Crypto knowledge is like a secret recipe for success!
The fact that i got to learn and earn from her program is everything to me think about it, it's a win win for both ways
N.W.O.+W.E.F.= FEW OWN
Wow.
Thank you David and Mr Rick Rule!
Rick is a wealth of knowledge. great guest!
I' ve got $50,000 to invest. I want to build a nest egg for when I'm older. I want to know if it's a good idea to add all my savings into a long term ETF, set and forget Come back in 20-30 years, instead of 250-300 DCA every month. Which ETF would you recommend.?
As they say, 'time IN the market is better than trying to time the market'. I think you should seek advice from a licensed financial advisor. They’ll give you guide on high risk and low risk investment strategies for your portfolio.
I’m working towards financial freedom with a focus on dividends & growth investing. Since 2019, I’ve built a portfolio made up of 50% SCHD, 25% SCHG, and 25% VOO, thanks to my financial advisor. This strategy has helped me earn $36,000 a year in dividends. Back in 2019, I only earned $21 in dividends.
Can you share details of your advisor? I want to invest my increased cash flow in stocks and alternative assets to achieve financial goals.
Sophia Irene Powell is the licensed advisor I use and im just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.
Thanks for sharing. I curiously searched for her full name and her website popped up immediately. I looked through her credentials and did my due diligence before contacting her.
October historically proved to be one of the most volatile months for stocks. With this uncertainty looming, I'm at crossroads deciding if to liquidate my $250k portfolio and get back in after the election, or should I buy more stocks in a promised bullish November?
imho, everyone needs a sort of advisory service in order to achieve an optimal portfolio these days, times are uncertain now
I agree, over 50 years of data reveals that those who work with financial experts typically earn more than those who do it alone. I've been fortunate enough to utilize an advisor for 4years now, resulting in a 7 figure portfolio after 100s of thousands invested so far.
would you mind sharing basic info please? how to earn regular income with my inheritance money has been my daily thought, thus the search for a reputable advisor
‘’Aileen Gertrude Tippy’’ is my FA. Just google the name and you’d find necessary deets. To be honest, I almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, but so glad I did.
thanks for the lead. I just searched Aileen by her full name and easily spotted her profile, no sweat. I have sent her an email, hoping she gets back to me soon
Thank you! Good show.
Hate to sound like a gold bug but gold is doing one of its catch up bull runs that typically last for a decade and when it does that it sometimes eve outperforms the SP500, what’s interesting is that it’s ripping higher even while the DXY is going up which is unusual as they are often considered inversely correlated. It might steal some global liquidity from bitcoin and mess up the normal cycles approach. I wouldn’t be surprised to see gold outperform a lot of assets in the short term, but the long term for btc looks very bright... I have managed to grow a nest egg of around 2.3Bitcoin to a decent 24Bitcoin. in the space of a few months... I'm especially grateful to Sandy Barclay’s, whose deep expertise and traditional trading acumen have been invaluable in this challenging, ever-evolving financial landscape.
Sandy Barclays program is widely available online..
Recession are unavailable part of the economic cycle, all you can do is prepared for them and plan accordingly.
I agree that there are strategies that could be put in place for solid gains regardless of economy or market condition, but such executions are usually carried out by investment experts or advisors with experience.
Sandy gave me the autonomy I need to learn at my own pace and ask questions when I need to she’s so accommodating.
The beauty of her approach is her dual focus: while she aggressively pursues profit opportunities, she's equally tenacious about shielding investors from potential pitfalls. It's a balance few can achieve.
Excellent and thanks for sharing today
Rick is one of the best around. Thanks for having him on!
Rick is great as i got alot of tips from him over the years glad you had him on David
👍 Thanks David and Rick, great conversation and insights, again. Rick is so articulate and apt at peeling one layer at a time of a complex issue but equally commend David for his ability to pose the right questions, as if he is reading your mind.
EXCELLENT! Thanks to both--
Great interview. Rick is a smart and balanced guy. THANK YOU!
He's spot on that,..
1. inflation is higher than repprted and
2. you can't value inflation by the inflation rate,.. you have to look at the loss in purchasing power of the currency.
Say an average inflation rate of 4% over the last 40 years sounds relatively tame,... but if you look at the loss in purchasing power as the apparent low inflation rate compounds,.. it can be devastating, especially to those on fixed incomes.
(1.04^40) = 4.8 to have the same value of a dollar from 40 years ago,.. you need almost 5 times more dollars,.. just to stay even.
3. Deficit spending is printing money.
From QTM
Inflation = deficit spending as a percent of GDP - real GDP growth
8% of GDP spending generating a 1 to 3% real GDP growth rate = about 5% real inflation.
As long as this insanegovernment is deficit spending more than real GDP growth there will be inflation.
In summary,... BUY, BUY, BUY,..........................
GLD for an inflation hedge and
SMR for the move in the high tech's,.. not to mention emerging markets,... to power their data centers etc with small nuclear reactors.
Hi David, I have to agree with Rick, your channel and intelligent interview style is awesome and it is my regular pleasure to enjoy the education you bring with your brilliant guests and brilliant preparation for the interviews! I'm with you since Kitco, keep up the good work! 🙂
Excellent guest. Thank you both.
Due to the concerns about oil prices and global economic instability that can significantly impact the stock market, I'm considering diversifying my portfolio of $200k to hedge against downturns but unsure of the best strategy to do so.
Predictions about market often turn out to be wrong. You should consult with an expert to help you diverse your port safely so you don’t get burnt by your emotions
It's better to be prepared even if nothing happens. Having a diversified portfolio can protect us from other risks. I was going solo without much success until my wife introduced me to an advisor. I've achieved over 80% capital growth this year, excluding dividends. Highly recommend!
Really! please how can I get in touch with this advisor?
Marissa Lynn Babula is the licensed fiduciary I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment..
*Marissa Lynn Babula* is the advisr I use and i'm just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.
That's the problem with having the CPI created by fashion designers.
i respect what Rick's gotta say, but i kept wondering what bottle of wine did he have before the interview😅😂
…or skin cancer, sun damage, dryness etc.
Excellent interview
Great interview I love listening to Rick Rule 👍
Thank you, Rick, for your honesty. Great show, David.
Rick Rule one of my favorite level headed people to listen to
I enjoy podcasts..thanks youtube
I love this discussion, no rose tinted political bias just analytical perspective on issues.
Thanks David. You have some great guests
Awesome as always guys
Thank you David and Rick!
Rick is absolutely right that inflation over the 2000 - 2024 period averaged 7.6%!!! And it was due entirely to QE and government deficit spending. This causation became undeniable from the high inflation that followed the massive QE and deficit spending during the pandemic.
Great stuff, David!!
Better gifts are cold coins, silver etc rather than some inflated fashionable items.
Wise words.😊
Thank you David! and thank you Rick Rule !!!!
This is an excellent interview, thank you 🙏🏼
1:28 David's doin well cuz he works hard at it and is intelligent and professional
Thanks alot
Battle Bank!
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@@Rose_j101You are right.
But I don't know why people remain poor due to ignorance
Spot on about taxes and gov charges. I'm in Aus and they have skyrocketed
I concur. Also Australian ...
With these uncertain economic conditions and heightened tensions, I think i'm ready for a more risky investment so I won't lose my savings to inflation. I'm considering investing over $200k in stocks. However, I'm uncertain about best strategies to use.
Consider hiring financial advisors, estate planners or tax experts. They can provide specialized knowledge and help you navigate complex financial decisions.
Speaking with an advisor helped me grow my portfolio to about 65% since Q3 2023, They have strategies that are specifically suited to your long-term objectives and financial aspirations.
Partnering with a financial advisor has transformed my approach to investing. Their expertise and personalized guidance have not only helped me navigate complex financial markets but also optimized my portfolio to achieve my long-term goals efficiently.
pls how can I reach this expert, I need someone to help me manage my portfolio
Yeah, she is Victoria Louisa Saylor , look her up. Anyone is free to contact her.
37:20 GREAT question by David.
Looking forward to the Battle Bank announcement!!
great interview
Rick has great perspective
Great interview!
What's perplexing me is that producers will still produce - no scarcity. No one will be able to buy what they are making...i.e. deflation. Ask Stellantis.
39:26 - I would state it the other way around.... demand will keep pace with supply. It is like a fire burning... a fire will burn any and all combustible material it comes into contact with. If we discover new sources of energy, we will find uses for it... and ALL energy we can find WILL be used.
So, the dollar is the cleanest shirt in the dirty clothes hamper. I don't have a problem accepting the thesis that there is still strong demand for dollars (for international settlements); but where I have the problem is understanding how anyone in the world (certainly any intelligent people in positions of wealth and power) can take the US seriously in terms of its runaway spending, debts, and deficits (to say nothing of the strong-arm tactics). We export our inflation. Our trading partners send us real goods, and accept our dollars for payment--but they're holding their nose while they're doing it. To say the least, it's not a win-win. Great show, as usual. Rick is amazing, and I look forward to checking out his bank.
Favorite guest
I'd definitely jump on the boat if I knew a thing or two about day-trading, but then again what do I really know? I'm just looking for the right moves to grow and hedge my stagnant reserve of $370k from inflation.
If you want to make a massive profit, It's only right
Strategic investment is critical. My ideal investment is a diverse combination of stocks, bonds, and ETFs. It provides an excellent long-term return and has performed admirably thus far, but I needed to diversify my portfolio at some point, so I approached a coach who devised a system that aligned with my targets; so far, I've made a whopping $580k, and scaling my portfolio to a million by the end of the year does not seem too far-fetched to me.
Fantastic! that sounds wonderful, how can I get in touch with your financial supervisor?
Finding financial advisors like Stacy Lynn Staples who can assist you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.
Thank you for sharing. it was easy to find her, then I scheduled a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her résumé.
Mr Rule, I hope that your lower lip heals quickly 🙏
Does it matter if the fed continues to cut interest rates but the bond matket continues to price in higher rates as it has done since the 50bps cut?
Gay-deux is probably gonna throw our bro David Lin in the Canadian gulag with the truckers for this interview
Looks like Rick got into another bar fight and got his teeth kicked in!
Probably had skin cancer removed, just a guess
the mining sector is brutal😂
@@DaveG-qd6ug I think he accidentally offended a coal miner. Those guys are notoriously tough cookies. Truth is, he probably had a tooth extracted and that was blood on his lip from that operation. I'm gonna stick with the bar fight though!
@@wapiti3750 he's definitely a vampire
@@ChronicMike3 That might be true, but he also absorbed the thick end of a pool cue across his teeth, then the guy kicked Rick in the nuts and stomped his head with a boot while telling him "your mama's a hoe".
Question, since the fed cut rates, will inflation start to worsen in 10 months?
Rick the 🐐
No reference to the exponential decrease in cost of solar and batteries? Great discussion gentlemen, thank you.
Mr. Rule - Learnt a lot from you listening to you over the years. Thanks! You seem to be hurt on your lip...hope you are ok and wish that you feel better soon....
For a $1B, US is able to build around 50 miles of high speed tracks. China builds around 1,500 miles for the same money…the cost of US infrastructure is not sustainable.
When was the last time the gold price was 100% above replacement cost for Barrick?
Super super great information Brothers 👍😊❤
What do you think of UNG for the present?
UNG is pretty beat up. Trouble is, Nat Gas is essentially unlimited, especially now that US oil rigs stopped flaring. Doomberg noted the engine switching to Nat Gas is inevitable. Good for the environment actually and eventually, good for Nat Gas companies. But for now, I wouldn't be surprised if UNG went so low it had to reverse split. I sell options on UNG weekly but my yield is coming down as the price decline. Maybe a cold snap my give it a price spike? But I wouldn't buy n hold
Long term investment in Nat Gas infrastructure will likely occur.....but the supply is already there
Love everything, except the ADS of Sponsors
mr. rule is coming alive now
35:25 is an instant classic.
Most people commenting on energy scarcity, don't seem to understand it. There is absolutely no energy scarcity: the sun, wind, waves provide almost infinite energy. The issue is conversion into a useful form. It is a conversion issue, and solar and batteries have solved that.
Almost... we are getting there. We still need a battery break through.
Please invite Rick Rule and Hanke for a discussion : )
I would disagree, I don't see how inflation makes a "massive comeback", I'm more worried about deflation and a stagnating economy.
1,000,000,000,000,000 dollar debt makes you sound extremely delusional.
@@petersheenan4482 I didn't know we were already at 1 quadrillion, but perhaps I am.
There is a difference between a unit of account & a reserve currency/means of transaction.
RICK RULE ❤
You're doing a fantastic job! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
The only way to lower inflation is a massive recession. Inflation is hurting everyone especially the fixed income people.
It's not hurting the 1%
The guest speaks to current US dollar strength. He is right.
Does this ring any bells .....
Slowly, then Suddenly ?
BRICS has not actually mentioned anything about common currency, that is media speculation. They ask that question all the time.
They have spoken about messaging systems, clearance systems, BRICS bank and a host of other things. They are currently trading in there own currency's and that is working. An analouge currency to the dollar is not required. Just walk away and Suddenly happens!!!!
There is no case that the asset price inflation we’re seeing is in any way a re-take of the great inflation of the 1970’s. You might expect that a loss of purchasing power in the currency may resemble the 1970 stagflation, however.
The loss of purchasing means debt may require a revaluation of gold prices.
I don’t know if excoriating policy makers for the inevitable is valid when the root cause of inflation is private money creation. CPI is reliable in the sense that it doesn’t reflect private money creation, which affects everything.
I just want my money to keep growing faster than inflation. That’s why I’m looking for companies to invest my retirement savings of $250K I have sitting in the bank. I just don’t know the best strategies to use to make solid gains with steady cash flow.
Pick quality stocks and keep track of them. If that feels too complicated, consider hiring a wealth manager to grow your money. That's what I do.
I agree. Based on personal experience working with a financįal advisor, I currently have $2 million in a well-diversified portfolio that has experienced exponential growth from when i started. It's not only about having money to invest in, but you also need to be knowledgeable, persistent, and have strong hands to back it up.
How can I reach this adviser of yours? because I'm seeking for a more effective investment approach on my savings
I have worked with a few financial advisors before now but i ultimately settled for Melissa Terri Swayne. She is SEC regulated and licensed in US. You can easily look her up
I just googled her now and I'm really impressed with her credentials. I reached out to her since I need all the assistance I can get.
Battle bank ever going to open or are you going to let us plebs invest in it?
Unfortunately, not all of us were financially literate early. I was 35 when I finally educated myself and started taking steps. I went from $176,000 in debt with zero savings or retirement to now, 2 years later, fully debt-free and over $1000,000 net worth. I know that doesn't SOUND like a lot, but I'm incredibly proud of it. Now I'm fast-tracking my wealth building (investing $400,000 annually) and don't owe a dime to anyone. It's a good feeling!
Every one of my prayer requests is about to manifest in the Name of Jesus I receive and connect with this message in Jesus' Mighty Name Amen 🔥🙏
I have been searching for ways to achieve success. Can you please guide me on how to do so?
Sure, the investment-advisor that guides me is...
Kiana Daniel
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Inflation alone will not adequately reduce Social Security in real terms because benefits are adjusted annually based on the CPI. Even though the CPI understates inflation, CPI-based increases would speed the insolvency of SS. Congress needs to be desperate enough to make changes to SS. It seems impossible until it’s necessary.
The cost of auto repair, the cost to finance a car, the cost to insure a car are all going up without end. Most young people in America don’t want to do the hard work it takes to repair a car. Oh yes they will say, I love working on cars, but when they discover it’s hard work, after few days; they quit. - And, I say good luck if you think you might employ them for elder care. I would fear for anyone under their care. - Better look after your health, or move to another country - maybe….
Would this guest be able to clear my small doubt? Broad money in the economy as a share of monetarily measured nominal annual GDP was about 0.5 times in 1960. It has seen a secular and steady increase over the years. It is more than 1.5 times the monetarily measured nominal annual GDP today.
Let me translate it for non-economists. My blood pressure was 115/70 when I was born in 1960. My blood pressure has steadily increased over the years and now it reads 345/210. What would that mean? Anyone interested in economics can answer this question. Kindly do not come back with a "the economy has grown" answer, that would be stupid, and I am being nice here! Just like a higher BP would have altered my body's structure and makeup and turned it into a powder keg, waiting to blow -up. Why have I yet to receive an answer to this question? What are the central banks doing? What is the economic academia doing? Unfortunately, our mainstream macroeconomics is as much of a Voodoo as Modern Monetary Theory.
Change superannuation payments to inflation proof adjusted.
Assuming the genreal popultion can efford the energy supply... the trend is they are going back to povrrty like 40yrs ag0
Inflation is not inevitable. It is the result of expansion of the monetary supply without a corresponding increase in the production of goods and services. Shut down the Federal Reserve system and the ability to finance government deficits and the inflation stops.
I moved to the countryside in 21 to reduce my expenses and therefore work less. My monthly expenses have not been reduced though, because groceries, fuel, insurance, taxes and construction materials prices have doubled.
Social Security is NOT an entitlement!!!!!!