Uhoh! Tim Fails Inspection! Truck & Trailer Tuesday with Trooper Hoover
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- Trooper Hoover inspects the trailer for Tractor Time with Tim! He takes a close look at the hitch, chains, break away system, axles, brakes, frame, ramp storage and more. The trailer is in worse condition that we thought due to salt and other road debris. These are all issues that might be on your trailer!
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This Trooper is a great teacher!! I don't wanna be unsafe, and now He shows us what to look for!! Win/Win!
next this cop gonna tell you about health safety to and you gonna jump for joy. Fat cop representing safetey lmao
best thing to say "worked during my pre trip"
I use a bungee cord to hold the chains tight under the ball everytime. It keeps everything from dragging but, flexes when the need comes.
Good idea; I'll do that with my trailers (I have three but all different sizes).
Just twist the chain until they don’t reach the ground anymore
I also use a short Bunge, and have for years.
@@TheeAbstractHero Don't do that. It reduces the chain strength up to 70%.
The trooper is absolutely correct on the emergency brake activation cable. Great catch trooper.
Mine ebrake is attached to my bumper
I knew that when i started towing skidsteers at 16yrs old.
"Great catch"!! Except he didn't mention the fact that the cable was longer than the chains! DUHHHH! You would want the emergency brakes to engage before the emergency chains are tight! "Great Miss" if you ask me....
I dunno. If the main hitch detaches, I’m ready for the e brake to be engaged!!
@@robbiebooth2980 the emergency brake is there in case the safety chains fail after the trailer becomes detached. You don't want the trailer to come unhitched and lock up the brakes while still on the safety chains. That would make a bad situation worse.
Really nice of trooper Hoover to show what they look for, most roadside troopers aren’t as pleasant as trooper Hoover and god forbid you ask a question
Trooper Hoover, thank you. Your comments are common sense and clearly spoken.
Might be good to have a video on the breakaway box and how to repair/replace and correctly connect the cable to the truck. Loving this series -- so much useful information.
Sobriety checkpoint: Can you say "Truck and Trailer Tuesday on Tractor Time with Tim, and Trooper Hoover". Good job!
Even if I were sober, I doubt I could say all that without messing it up. Good way to test someone!
Handcuffs. I haven’t even had a beer in 3 months..
Very informative series, Thank you and Officer Hoover for each of the presentations.
What a great trooper! This is how all troopers should act. Not afraid of the camera and down to earth. Good on you Trooper Hoover; stay safe Sir!
Edit: misspelled a word.
Great job guys. I wish more were so attentive. Pre-tripping your vehicle/equipment takes just a few minutes but can literally be a life saver. Thanks Tim, Christy & Trooper Hoover!
You are110% right! 😊
This is a good review for experienced and inexperienced alike! It is good to be reminded of those things we may take for granted. Thanks for sharing this!
Tim Hoover the only cop I like he's a good guy showing us how to be safer on the road without fineing us
He’s on video, can act like a dick.
Thanks for video Tim . Trooper Hoover, he dose a great job explaining what is and isnt a violation have a great day be safe.
Happy to see that a twist or two to the safety chains is ok. Informative! Happy towing.
A chain is not designed to take a load while twisted. The chain could fail and snap. Especially with a shock load. Safety chains should be the proper length to begin with. My trailers are designed so the safety chains can be adjusted in length. In a pinch the safety chains can be raised up off the pavement using a rope or bungee cord. Coiled safety cables are another option.
Agree with Shawn, as a farmer we knew a twisted chain will break under a load, I'd use a bungee cord instead.
I was surprised to hear that they allowed the chains to be twisted. It seems like a bungee would be a better option. You never want the chains to be needed because the trailer will go to the right with the crown of the road, pulling the rear of the tow vehicle with it, turning the tow vehicle into oncoming traffic.
Tired old mechanic I use Zip Ties to keep the chains up enough not to drag the pavement.
@@shawnwright2356 Florida does not allow bungee cords to hold anything. AZ, and CA will write a ticket for any twist in a chain. Hello campers, welcome to my world. 38 years over the road, and now I don't even want to tow my camper when I'm not working.
OH! Wait until they start enforcing ELD for private rigs over 10001#. I see a bunch of fifth wheel campers going up for sale real cheap.
One of the better offerings on TH-cam. Extremely well done. Thank you.
So, when it rains it pours? Something good comes out of this. I, fortunately, don't do this work anymore, but when I did, there were nightmares. Another great video. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
One of the best videos you've done. Thank you!!!
This may be a four year old video but has lots of great info. Thank you Tim & Kristi and Trooper Hoover.
Tim, I hear you about just checking systems before you leave home. I got pulled over a few weeks ago because of a bad tail light. I told the cop I had just purchased new lamps and he laughed out loud until I whipped open the bag with them! That got him to chuckle and let me go...
If your shank on the ball is 1 ¹/⁴" (a lot of 2 ⁵/¹⁶" hitches are) the torque spec is 450 ft/lbs. That lock washer should be completely compressed.
lock washers do nothing. that nut isn't tight.
I don’t doubt your spec, but who has a torque wrench with that capacity lying around???
@@chrisbreidenbaugh3697 That's when you hit it with enough ugga duggas to stop turning and then put a 10' pipe on your wrench and see if it turns.
Chris Breidenbaugh, I do....
I just use my impact wrench set to highest setting to put the ball on tight. They never come loose.
I'd bet 90%+ of private trailers have no working brakes, especially the breakaway brakes.
Doug Shrader in SC small trailers aren required to be licensed so they also aren’t enforced to have working lights or stop lamps.
Yep im guilty. No brake away battery. My brakes work great though. I need my brakes since im 13k back there. First time i pulled my tractor on this trl (just bought a week earlier) i didnt have brakes and yes my 3/4 could stop it but man. I kept my speed down a touch and i slowed early and watched closely for a panick brake situation. Also it was a short run. Now i make sure brakes are good cause i scale 22k
Hell in Alabama, 90% of the trailers dont even have lights!
You're wrong.....it's 95 percent
I'd bet that you're right, but I'm glad there's still at least a small percentage of us that take safety seriously. Every trailer I buy gets a full repair/upgrade of mechanical, braking, and electrical systems. I'll just keep a safe following distance behind everyone else.
Thank you for the chain knowledge. Always heard the opposite.
Thanks Tim for making these videos. Great information. I really appreciate it.
He might have mentioned it on a previous video. Check to make sure your tires on your trailer are at the proper PSI I have a 10K dump trailer and they are rated for 3350 lbs at 80 PSI. I had 2 tires at 50 PSI and realized it really quick after it was loaded no where near a air compressor replacement tires aren’t cheap. I learned the hard way.
Proud 2 say Brent has been a friend for years.... good man
Excellent series
This was a really good video, thank you for posting it. With as many miles as I do on the freeway with my farm trailers, I pretty much treat it like a commercial trailer situation. Rewired my gooseneck because the breakaway was inoperable, the plug was cracked and filled with water, the brakes had been cut because the wiring had been rerun with 18 gauge by the previous owner and had gotten smoked. Pretty ridiculous. Now all the lights work, brakes work again, and all it needs is new lumber and some black touch up paint. Keep up the good content. 👍
This kind of educational video does more to inform people and improve safety on the roadway than 20 weigh stations. Many people just don't have a ton of experience with trailers. They usually just hook it up and go.
We took apart my father-in-law's horse trailer brakes last summer to inspect them. It had been sitting parked for most of the summer before out in New Mexico. 3 of the drums looked ok, the 4th one however, when we pulled the drum off, a mouse skeleton fell out. As we dug around in the nest it had made, we found a snake skeleton about 2 foot long coiled up in there as well. That was probably the best/worst thing I've ever found.
Our Troopers are the best of the best!!!
Very nice for IN State Police for helping do these great information. Officer Hoover can explain things in plain English. Great job and he needs to be in front of the camera more too...
Gotta love ISP nice, and helpful....more troopers should be like these guys
I’m not a trucker but even I find your videos interesting.Trooper Hoover does a good job of explaining what to look for.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, Tim. An overlooked topic for sure.
I always see the Toyota SUV rolling down the interstate hauling a 32 foot cabin cruiser. They never get pulled over.
It's legal when they're in the left lane.
aguyandhiscomputer skin
No money in pulling over Johnny travel trailer...
They get more money from us tractor trailer trucks. We are there cash cows. And there new fraud is a even bigger issue. They set up a construction zone from state line to state line and just love grabbing us truckers when it is set up but no one even present or active. And Indiana crooks that they are will write you up for speeding in a active work zones when it isn't active
@@joshweiser7737 "Again its about safety." Bs, its about generating revenue.
Thanks for the video. Love when the Police help like this. Promotes the protect and serve portion of the job.
Didn't expect the video to be as useful information. Great video.
Another great video, thanks Tim! And Thanks to Trooper Hoover for sharing all this great knowledge. One thing though, lets talk about the strain relief on your trailer wiring. Your wires will last a lot longer if you get that outer jacket into the strain relief clamp on that plug.
Great video!!!!! Last year I flipped my trailer to do maintenance on it .Was surprised to see the salt damage now I guess I will repaint the bottom of the trailer ever 2 years. Love the website 👌
One tip: always check your trailer lights on the back before each trip and if not equipped reflective tape on the back also in case your lights fail to prevent accidents.
A 30 second walk-around is what I always do on my camper and boat trailer.
3m conspicuity tape aka d.o.t tape
Great series of videos Tim. Very helpful. 👍🏻
Lots of great knowledge. Working on becoming a Commercial Vehicle Officer for the Missouri State Highway Patrol. Thanks for the video and great knowledge from a great officer
Great video I learned a couple of things to change on my trailer. Thanks to the officer for the education.
Thank you Tim this was good information and is appreciated and thank Trooper Hoover
Great advise. I agree that safety should be the main focus and not on the category of commercial vs non-commercial.
I have to appreciate the fact that officer Hoover made a point, several times, to differentiate between commercial operation and private operation and that private operation is not subject to enforcement of regulations. Doesn't mean anybody should be stupid, reckless or irresponsible in their private use of trailers, just that we are not subject to state revenue extortion. Regulations, codes and statutes are for commercial transportation.
Very good presentation Trooper Hoover.
That's fairly new equipment. Just think if it was worn out bad. Rust is setting in and it's in good shape. Helps if equipment is inside out of the weather when not using it. I wash things right away if it goes through any salt. I keep things looking like new
I am glad that he pointed out the cable I put mine on the frame or the bumper so if you would have a total failure of your hitch the brakes would still be activated on the trailer
Hey tim I just take eye bolts and install on all my trucks so the electric break away cable is completely separate with a snap clip
Breakaway should be connected to the truck frame. Hitch bolts have been known to fail and breakaway cable goes with the hitch, not applying the emergency brakes. There is a TH-cam video showing that situation with a travel trailer.
Brother thank you for the video, as county mountie in texas. I appreciate it, I see daily dangerous trailers failure to secure loads. My best partners mother was killed when unsecured load fell on her car killing her. I take it very serious, and I wish to impress upon pick up owners secure your cargo, it takes a few minutes, but can save you a lot money and anguish.
Excellent video with good information. Thanks for sharing!
For added trailer hitch safety for whatever you're pulling check out iron Jaws trailer hitch safety
Great video Tim trooper Hoover dose a great job with the education side of enforcement he has also don videos with logger Wade he dose a great job explaining what is and isnt a violation have a great day be safe.
...does .......done.
A helpful couple of things for you to do. You can get a "D" ring like climbers use that has a flip lock and you can use the safety chain slot to attach it to the truck. Another thing that helps guard the wire is even if you have that style hitch you can open safety pin loop and slide the wire in the safety loop on the safety pin. That will keep your trailer wire from ever touching the ground and you won't have to worry about it being to short for turns because it's right over the tongue. A few little tricks from delivering trailers and rv's that I learned along the way.
I am very surprised Trooper Hoover didn’t mention the tires as something he checks. I see trailers all the time with tires that are not fit for safe travel.
Guns4Fun FreedomKeeper. Up in Canada the tires play the biggest roll in weight to be carried they look at the load rating of each tire and make sure it is over the weight carried if not you get a over weight ticket. With smart phones they look up the price your carrying and see the weight of it if not you get to go to the scale to weight
Thank you Trooper!!!
please come and inspect the trailers here in Florida. 90% or more don't even have lights on them. i'm not saying working lights. the lights are missing all together.
@Elvis Presley lake co
jim h in MI, no trailer lights necessary. 1. During daylight hours and 2. Tow vehicle taillights are visible.
@Elvis Presley you're
@Elvis Presley middle east coast
Brevard county loaded with landscape trailers no lights, shit hanging off them, bald truck tires drives me insane...
Great info, certainly take note of his comment, “one or two twists of the chain”. Do not twist the chain enough that it balls up to shorten it. More than what he recommends will reduce the chains strength by 90%!
It’s good practice is to get proper length chains to begin with. I understand that if you tow with multiple vehicles, that may not be an option. If that is the case, put a quick link of appropriate strength to shorten the chain when needed.
That trailer has a suspension, it's a dexter torsion axle. It has rubber in the axle tube that absorbs suspension shocks. They can get bagged out to the point of a no-go, just not as obvious as leaf springs.
Kinda good video, more people who tow trailers need this
I am very surprised the trooper did not look closely at the hitch bolted to the pickup frame. I pull a small utility trailer (3,000 GVW) with equipment on a daily basis. After 12 years, my receiver tub broke from the U-frame of the hitch - RUST! The lack of integrity of the hitch was missed by me, and the entire hitch needed replacing. All those other safety features may be in place, but if the hitch to the pickup fails, all is lost (safety chains do no good, they are hooked to the hitch frame). I have an F250. Getting the old bolts out proved to be a major project, far greater than mounting a new hitch. Just a heads-up. Thanks for the video.
I dealt with those rusty bolts when replacing a bumper once. No fun at all!
@5:40 you can clearly see a gap between the nut and washer on the ball hitch, I recommend unscrewing the nut to put some heavy duty Lock Tite on the threads and torque to specification.
Yes, and it has been commented on repeatedly, and fixed the same day as this was filmed.
Scary going through that inspection Tim . . . but you done good. And, great information about the brake setup . . . just needs a little work.
It's good you have your safety chains crossed to cradle the tongue if something happened. But you should turn your hooks around so that it pulls into the throat of the hook instead of the tip.
Another great episode, I bought a dump trailer today and this is right on time for me.
What a great video! Thanks to Trooper Hoover, Tim and Kristy (sp?) behind the camera.
Drive shafts don't get painted because of balance issues. First you can not weld on balance weights on paint. Painting after will through the balance off, or when paint comes off will then through balance off.
Coming from owning a commercial heavy haul company it’s nice seeing officers like you had in your video. Some are reluctant to answer questions and he sounded like he knew his stuff. They were so bad over here for a while the head guys had us help train some of there guys on equipment hauling safety years ago.
Great video, thank for taking the time to make it.
Thanks for watching!
Get a locking hitch pin, I learned that the hard way, backed up and was stepping out to hook up trailer to nothing. Great info Tim.
or just move.
every time I connect to one of my utility trailers I inspect all safety items plus lights on the trailer and the truck, tire condition on all tires including the spare and tire pressure. I check the brakes as soon I start to move the trailer. The wire that goes into the 7 way pin connector on Tim's trailer could be sealed with clear silicone caulk to prevent further damage and seal out water.
It's nice knowing what the police actually look for.
Salt definitely kills trailers. I’m fortunate I don’t have to take any of mine out in the winter. I’ve seen what it does. In Indiana do you have to register your trailer as commercial? In CT we have two options for trailers: camp trailer plate or commercial. Obviously the camp trailer plate can not be on anything you’re making money with,but our commercial ones need a federal annual inspection yearly with dated sicker. Do you need that there?
No, we do not need inspection here in Indiana. Remember, we have ‘much less government’ here than you have!
Tractor Time with Tim you are definitely right with that!!! I’m thankful that you took the time to see my photos. Thank you, it means a lot.
There seems to be more than 2 options for trailer registration. www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=802&Q=244546&PM=1#trlcom
i would argue on the colored wire showing at the vehicle connection plug. that point looks like it has some sort of cable strain relief or seal so i would fix that straight away to prevent wire from ripping out of the connector or corroding.
Ive heard you cant twist the chaun like that because it kinks the chain. With a large enough weight it can break the chains from over tightening it in a weird spot.
At 6:33 you can see a gap between the hitch ball nut and lock washer that goes all the way into the shank of the hitch ball. It's not correctly torqued. specs can be found on hitch ball mfgr website and it varies by shank diameter. I tow a 30' travel trailer and at rallies I have used a Dollar bill and see if I can slip it in between the nut and lock washer. It's a quick easy check but agreed it does not indicate fully torqued only that enough torque was used to compress the lock washer.
I just noticed you have hooks permanently attached to the trailer chain - is that usual over there? Here we use rated D-shackles so can attach to any link in the chain, solving the 'dragging' issue.
U haul tought me and the inspector approved it.
U have to cross the chains 1 time at least so keep spinning them till chain length is what u want no limit on amount of times.
Really enjoy these types of videos!!!!
me and my dad wrap the break away cable around the hitch hook it back in with own carabiner it to where safety chains hook
@@gearjammer4779 wow how rude this is why I don't comment on video
Keep commenting, Paul. Don’t worry about trolls.
@@TractorTimewithTim ok thank you
@@TractorTimewithTim ok thank you Tim keep up on the good work
the break away cable is designed to be pulled out and tested. while it is pulled out the switch end it is to be wrapped around a permanent part of the tow vehicle then put through the eye of the other end. this creates a "lasso" type connection that can only be removed by pulling the switch end back out. its ironic that it is ok to let the breakaway not working go because it is a private individual but "out of service" for a commercial vehicle.....the risk is the same whether it is commercial or private. it is understood that a private vehicle would not go under such an inspection. it could be argued that the risk is higher for a private user who doesnt tow a trailer as much as a commercial tower. therefore a private tower could possibly less training or experience detecting and handling emergency towing situations. the potential for an accident or harm doesnt change because there is not a company name attached to the registration.
Veri informative and worth listening to
11:35 Just wanted to point out, if your trailer has been sitting a long time, and the brakes are locked up, cutting the brake wires won't help you unlock the brakes.
Then why does it work?
@@yzrippin not sure, technically, it shouldn't do anything to help a locked up brake. Those brake wires only have power when connected to a truck, and the brake is applied. If you were to cut the wires, and it did free up the brake, then there is an issue with the breakaway switch, plug/ trailer / truck wiring or a bad brake controller. Also that would affect all the trailer brakes and not just one.
Hasn't been mentioned in this series (that I found) but privately owned trailers tend to have dry rotted tires after a few years, and all the owner sees is tread wear. Would be nice to know where DOT draws the line here. IOW, how much is too much?
I’ve never heard of a small open trailer getting a DOT inspection haha
Iv always used a carabiner on my breakaway and hooked it to the bumper of my truck.
If for some astronomical failure were all the bolts break and the hitch falls off, the breakaway is still connected to the truck to be pulled.
I'm finding that as I get older, the more important it is to be legal. I've never had a problem, but we all need to be safe.
Brent Hoover is one good enforcement officer, always willing to teach and explain to the driving public so the highways are safer. As I always say in my comments to him “We’re working together, for safety’s sake!”
1 thing I noticed the inspector didn't mention. It may just be a New York thing, the hooks on the chains that connect to the truck. The open end of hook must be pointed to the rear and pulled in behind the mount. I was taught in commercial driving school, and long before, ,that's a violation. The little safety latch was not discussed however. Is that the difference? This is a great educational video as well. I've never seen an inspector measure the girth of the chains! The weapon of choice for our troopers NY, the portable scales!
The chains do not have to be crossed over they just have to be two of them connected I know some people thinks it's more of a safety issue to me when a chain is crossed over it becomes one chain when they are on their own side left side right side they become 2 Chainz
If you don’t Cross Your chain where I live you Will be charged it’s the law
I live in Seneca South Carolina and I called the county and the City and ask them how do I hook my chains on my pull-behind trailer I said is it the law across the chains the guy says as long as you have two chains that are in working order it doesn't matter which way you hook which if we don't know why we do what we do then we'll never understand what we do it for me and my adopted son always argue over this issue
If you cross the chains it will catch the trailer tongue if it comes of the ball. And stop it from hitting the road.
@@1dilligaf how is the chains going to catch the ball the chains have to be hooked together be able to do that I know it looks like it would been less of the two chains are hooked together there's no way the ball and catch it it will slip over the ball
Kenny Wright if the chains are cross and the ball brakes the tongue of the trailer will be held up by the chains. Hock up your trailer cross the chain then take you tongue off and it will sit on the crossed chains.
I use a cheap harbor freight bungee cord to keep my chains from dragging
Old trailers without breakaway protection required to install it? What year did that start?
Not sure when it started but any trailer requiring brakes has to have break away protection
No suspension n the trailer? That's gotta be a rough riding beast. Great video. Sometimes I wish the DOT would pick on the trailers with no lights, bent axles, overweight, boneheaded things we see every day. I've got a sweet trailer with elec/hyd brakes (disk brakes) You know for a fact these things work. It's on an 18ft aluminum car hauler.
Torsion suspension…supposedly the best style. Upgrade over spring suspension.
That breakaway cable is scary.
I left after he spun the washer and said its good
He could not move the washer. He tried several times, but it would not move. I had it pretty tight, but not tight enough to fully compress that large washer.
@@TractorTimewithTim Well, that's a 1.25" hole receiver, and if that's a 2" ball with a 1.25" shank, it should be torqued to 450 foot pounds. I'm guessing it's not very close to that.
Tim Christi and Trooper real life is hell but safety is next to Godley
God Bless All
PaK
With a CDL that's the person to say away from will cost a lot of money
So a reduction in link diameter seems the chain unsafe, but twisting a chain over several times to reduce length (severely reducing chain strength) is ok? They made no reference to hook orientation as well
I did minimal research after reading your comment cuz i too assumed that the chain would be weakened with twisted links. But i could only find it decreases its strength by 5%.
NYS was hitting hard the last 2 years on the little guys, pickups and even single axle trailers. Contractors, lawn guys, etc. But there's the deal for NYS and Fed dot as explained to me by 2 very cool Troopers, if you are conducting business in the state with your vehicle and trailer AND the combined weight you're rated for is over 10k lbs but less than 26k lbs, then ya have to display a USDOT number and company name on both sides of the vehicle visible at 50 ft away, you have to have a medical card (what a hassle and joke of an exam that is too), and you have to keep track of miles and hours (from the time you leave your house/office/start of the work day to the time you return. Quickbooks Self Employed already tracks the miles and times so that's easy. The DOT number is free (don't get taken in by the multitude of "compliance companies" that will contact you. That's all. NO CDL needed. Oh and yes every light has to work. Something extra if you cross state lines for business but I don't know what since I stay in state.
If I need to shorten up the chains a little, so they aren’t rubbing the ground, can I possibly feed them through the attachment point (if the hooks fit) and back onto themselves? I saw someone do that when hooking up their U-Haul trailer.
And tighten the hitch ball