Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Below 26,000lbs and below is Class C. Anything above requires a CDL if commercial hauling. You can get away as a home owner with a Class C as long as in your state. If you leave and above 26k youll need a CDL.. Its a pain in the ass...
Several states have special non-CDL license types or endorsements. In NC I have a Class A Normal license which allows me to drive whatever I want non-commercial non-hazmat. I did a video on it a while back. TX and PA are similar to NC. CA is more restrictive. Check your state!
I wish this had been around way back when I started driving. (Before the internet!) Would have made my experiences easier with the DOT. (Although, I rarely had any problems with MY side of the encounters, as logbooks, HOS load securement etc... Mine was usually COMPANY faults!)
Im confused. Did the trooper just say you can buy a semi privately and dont need a cdl to drive it, as long as its not for commercial use? If im not mistaken, weigh scales are federal? So this would mean you can privately buy and drive a semi without a cdl in any state? Am i understanding this correctly? Because if so, thats awesome. I never knew.
Every state is different when it comes to DOT compliance. As far as I am concerned the person who only tows occasionally is much more likely to overlook a safety issue than a professional driver. Every commercial driver is required to do daily inspections on truck and trailer. Take a look at the federal motor carrier safety administration's website if you want to be overwhelmed with regulations.
Well you should be afraid because you still can be stopped and not to leave until you get your load the white right weight in a second of all even equipment with a regular trailer you can stop and be overloaded so when you even with your lawn mower and your other equipment try and figure out what flea what you waive so you won't be overweight and make sure all your equipment is right because you can be stopped by hey come Marshall highway patrol or. And still be set on side the road until you get everything fixed and ticketed and it could be a big ticket to so be safe take care of you to lose because I have the money maker and they will take care of you good luck everybody and be careful
@@MrTheHillfolk - nothing to do with officer safety. It's all a way to generate $$$$. If they're so scared of what's on the other side of the tint they'd not target so many cars just for tint. It's a reason to fish for whatever else than can get you on. All they have to do is say they thought the tint was too dark and now the interview begins.
Excellent video. I still carry my CDL medical card because I was a commercial driver and now I'm a farmer. Just in case farming doesn't pan out I could always go back driving truck. As a commercial truck driver when the light says come in your stomach falls to the floor. And most truck drivers would no what I'm talkin about. Have a great evening keep up the good work
I normally get the light when empty. I never get it when I have a load in the pickup truck and trailer. I'm use to it. Had my commercial license for over 40 years now and most likely giving it up on my next birthday. I had no need for the medical card as I was exempt working for the State.
@@cledussnow3935 they are the Indiana State Police commercial division. Being overweight is generally a bridge weight restriction issue not a braking issue.
Thanks to Trooper Hoover for his information and want to help get questions answered. Just keep in mind that the rules and the interpretation of rules varies from state to state and just because it is one way in Indiana doesn't mean it's that way everywhere. I think this is going to be an interesting series of videos, thanks for doing them Tim.
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I used to work at a dealer for log loaders. The rule back then anyway, was a strap or chain every ten feet. So a twelve foot log would need two chains.
I tow a 15,000 lb + trailer for work everyday with my F250 during the summer. What I never understood was that I technically need a chauffeur's or CDL licence and have to stop at the scales and get a DOT physical every 2 years and get my truck inspected every year. But a guy who just retired from a factory or office job with no truck driving experience can go out and buy a F350 and a 40ft fifth wheel trailer (and some even tow a boat behind the camper) or a big ol motorhome and they don't need a physical or pass a driving test. I see 80+ year old guys driving huge motorhomes down the highway all the time who look like they could croak at any moment these guys should have to follow the same laws as commercial drivers. They are no better than anyone else what a joke.
@@veteranheavyequipmechanic4990 perhaps the RV Lobby to Congress has something to do with that. If it's truely about 'safety", shouldn't we ALL have the same base physical/health/eye sight/hearing etc...test?.....not advocating for this, just saying.
Used to have fb and Officer Hoover does a good job informing drivers on how to avoid him. Lol He understands trucking more then drivers give him credit for.
Oh.......anytime you do anything beyond your own personal business, is considered "commercial " & the parasitic Government needs to get into your pocket, despite any safety concerns....I see, said the blind man.....
You do realize CDL stands for commercial driver's license you can drive your own private Vehicles anywhere you want. Just think about all those old vacationers rolling around in 30,000 lb 40 ft long RVs.
You can haul your own stuff in your own semi up to 150 miles from home without a CDL, you can even work for a farm and haul their stuff in their semi without a CDL, i wouldn't cross a state line though, I recently went through this by terre haute Indiana and went through a roadside stop from a very nice Indiana State Police officer and had zero issues, I wore my seat belt, had a fire extinguisher, safety triangles and my stuff was in working condition (even for a 1986 Freightliner) and it was an educational experience and went well
@@thegraintruckguy4345 The 150 mile exemption only applies to individuals who work on a farm, and the use has to be directly related to the farm operation. Look up the Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1986 (CMVSA). There are a number of exemptions.
Didn't you hear. If you use any vehicle used for business such as deliveries should stop at port of entries /weight stations. Doesn't matter how much it weighs
Junk Man, in Pa. Even the pizza guy should/needs have a DOT physical from how I understand it. Any person driving for commercial purpose......same with "lab delivery" cars (hospital testing).....they even would require DOT numbers in the side. ..
Officer Hoover has been on Logger Wade's channels too he is a wealth of knowledge on truck enforcement. Oh he will give you a ticket but he will educate you on the infraction so you don't make it again and know how the law works so you can share that info with others so we as a commercial and non commercial carriers are better educated and safer on the roads.
I wish they would inspect rv's and travel trailer's they need to but dot reflecter tape on the back of them .I but it on my back bumper so if the lights go out people can still see it
I generally have a bad taste in my mouth for these guys but Mr. Hoover seems pretty cool. Seems like he's trying to educate instead of just be a fee collector. A few years ago I was hassled by DOT a few times for just pulling lawn mowers around. Had to get dot numbers and all the BS that goes with it. They were enforcing trucks down to 10,000 gvw which was nonsense really. Thankfully, it wasn't a profitable venture for them and they wound up laying off half of the officers and raised cut off back up to 26,000 gvw last I heard.
grassgobbler72 it’s not all there fault did you ever see a lawnmower come flying off a trailer when idiot jackknifed it ? How about the wheel barrow they put up top and forget to strap and guess where that goes some poor mom on her way to grocery store shall I go on yes I believe they need more on them not for money just a education
grassgobbler72 in the end the state could care less about safety if they really cared they would bust all the drug houses in their neighborhoods but they don’t they drive past them in a state it’s over budget like this one they’re out to make money anyway and every way they possibly can safety is the “The disguise“ under which they operate just like handing out speeding tickets claiming people 6 miles over the speed limit our safety concern which is a ridiculous notion One thing I know for sure is year after year it gets more strict and more strict until theThe fees will get so high there will be an outcry and a partial reset.
Longhaullarry did a video about one of his dot inspections. The guy put on a white glove and ran it on his oil pan. Haha. Real "just doing my job" highway Nazis.
In a so called free country just comply with what ever these corrupt politicians and fleecing law enforcement agencies have to say never the same state to state they say the other guy is always wrong so I will give you a ticket so you can continue to pay.
Tim if you have heard of Logger Wade on TH-cam he has a video or two with this same Trooper and let me tell you this Trooper has a great sense of humour
John Thorpe no it’s because they are not engaged in commercial operations! There’s a big difference between a diesel pusher motorhome that gets 8000 easy miles a year and a commercial truck thats pounded 6 days a week for business by 4 different drivers and it running at max gvwr all the time .
William Uskoski I have an A CDL , I think an air brake endorsement would be fine . Everyone has to learn by getting behind the wheel.Everyone here had a first day behind the wheel of a car/truck or big rig. I’m way more concerned with aggressive drivers ,inattentive/texting drivers/ and equipment in poor condition that is a danger to everyone on the road.
We own a commercial cleaning company they go over 90 miles away and back doing Bellstores floors. They have never had to stop at a weigh station. Even pulling a large commercial grade enclosed trailer. On Ohio.
From my perspective, the trooper has a great attitude and seems to have a goal of helping folks. Great information for all of us that tow. Furthermore, presenting the information on Facebook with the idea of helping pass helpful information along...what more could we ask for from government? Thanks for presenting this video!
None of us want government intrusion, but as a family man I appreciate the state troopers making sure the big rig vehicles are at least safe. I used to drive commercial and I hated weight stations or weigh enforcement officers. But I also realized that many do anything to beat the system but doing so, they put my family in danger. Fine line between law enforcement and being jerks! But my experience shows me that very few officers are out there just to bust ur B@@#$, they are just keeping our families safe!
I’ve been trucking for over 24 years I learned early on that pulling into scales an speaking with DOT is alright, don’t be scared I’ve learned all sorts of things not just what you have spoke about but routes, shortcuts etc. these guys are usually just like Trooper Hoover glad to help.
Tim another stop that you have to make occasionally is at an Agricultural Inspection Station. You might want to do a show dealing with what type of trucks and trailers have to stop at an ag inspection station. I was told when I stopped at the ag inspection station on I-75 entering Florida that even if my trailer is empty I have to stop.
There’s one thing that the DOT Officer left out. 1st of all if you have a pre-pass system you don’t always have to stop @ a Weigh Station. 2nd of all the only time you’ll ever need to stop is if your truck & trailer are fully overweight in which case make sure that you have the proper papers in the cab that state that you can haul things that are over weight (called over weight permits). Also if you haul a reefer unit or dry van make sure that your trailer tandems are set so that your truck & trailer are not over weight. Also Most DOT Officers don’t want to take the time to give you a problem, so don’t go looking for a reason to get them to put you out of service. Company’s will be given points if their trucks are shutdown for any reason. Make 100% sure that you inspect your truck & if needed stop @ a truck stop & double check your weight especially before a Weigh Station because you’ll have burned up a lot of fuel by the time you get there & your weight might change.
What I consider a huge problem is that he said anyone can go and buy a semi and trailer and drive it around with normal plates and no CDL. Does he not enforce an air brake endorsement?
I have 35 years in the truck Tim I'm retired Teamster,, got my gold card good company,, It was great,, didn't need the union! we need it for the work we did on the docks or whatever we did but anyway I do not fear for a weigh station,, scale house that's what we call them.. I actually like them if you go back to the days when I started driving a truck I'm 70 now and those days you didn't have the two seats no radio I know a lot of things you would have holes in the floor which it would stop frags in in the winter time to keep a little bit warmer if the heater worked no power steering !! !! trucks weren't maintained like today you had a protector your own ass ,, when you work for a company and made sure you were safe yourself ! those were those days I went through that it was bad and adventurous at the same time.. today they're like driving a Cadillac .. you can't imagine . Just try imagine that it's like a Model T versus a modern-day Cadillac that is the difference ..we didn't have air ride seats. ! we didn't have spring seats. ,I remember when I had a B model Mack and run her. ( OLD BETTS ) like old Betsy that was her name good truck two shifters gas engine very very slow across country. Back in those days you had a bench seat,, every time you hit a pothole went through your spine.. the weigh stations protect us the protect you I do not fear them ! sometimes they're not on a reasonable,, but most of the time they're just doing their job and good people ! D.O.T. inspections I don't fear THEM in my day. I was glad they're there .co. would not fix them ,, thank God for DOT.. anyway that's my experience. P.S. I worked many many years with hazardous material you cannot imagine what I seen God bless you Tim and your family Talk about a few miles when they say I have a million I laugh I always tell him I got that many backing up
B Mack with a 6.8 liter straight six gasser. ....just saw one of those the other day, someone had taken ALL the body components, but everything else was intact and not rusted out.
Trooper Hoover rocks!!!! I’ve been through a lot of weigh stations and DOT inspections, some good officers but more dink’s than anything else. All they were interested in doing was writing tickets. Trooper Hoover is interested in informing the driver why something is incorrect so it won’t happen the next time. Thanks Tim and Trooper Hoover
Thanks. I REALLY appreciate Trooper Hoover. Some of his off camera stories make me like him even more! His motivation is definitely in the right place!
Look, listen, smell and touch. Do your pre-trip in an orderly fashion so you don’t miss anything. The things you miss are the things that will cause issues. If you get interrupted while doing a pre-trip go back a few steps and start over. Weeping rust streaks are a tell tale sign of something loose ie lugnuts. Use a grease stick to Mark an area that needs to be looked at better or a repair needs to be made.
I routinely run between Illinois and Indiana hauling hazmat and never have an issue with DOT ! That trooper is a real nice guy and knows the laws! Thanks for the information
I'm sure this series is going to ruffle a few feathers! That in door inspection station is amazing,our inspection are done outside in a parking lot with a creeper. You guys are putting your channel to a new level, ty for sharing
I think he is dead wrong or nobody enforces it. I run a dually with an enclosed trailer with my race car in it. I have extra fuel tanks in my truck, tool boxes,tires etc all exposed. In 25 years have never stopped at a station, and have never had an issue. I go all over the country. Something is not correct here. I do not have not for hire sign’s either
What is a "truck"? Well, was is a taxi? Any vehicle, such as a sedan, a minivan, can be used as a taxi. A taxi is a commercial vehicle. So, a "pick up", if not used for commercial purposes, is not a "truck". Any vehicle can be used as a "truck". There is an old school loophole, by painting or using stenciled lettering, a notice on the door "Not For Hire", and so the vehicle is a marked vessel. You don't need a "TRUCK" plate for a pick up. If you do get a truck plate, you are screwed.
They are basing it on the federal definition of what is a commercial vehicle. The definition of a commercial motor vehicle or a CMV is a vehicle that is designed to carry cargo or payload that has a gross vehicle weight rating greater than 10000 pounds. As he stated in some States there is verbage on the sign outside the scale. Some States say no vehicles under 26000 pounds combined. Other States say no pick up trucks. Then it becomes a little technical. Basically you need to at that point know what the definition in your state is for a pick up truck. Then it becomes even worse. Texas for example will say in their laws while involved in Commerce. Other States will say while operating a commercial vehicle. So the difference would be if you register your pick up truck commercially you are still operating a commercial vehicle regardless of use. While other States would only apply while you are actually working. I own and operate businesses in 3 different States. You have to dig deep into the details and become familiar. Many assume that if you read the federal regulations you're covered. This is far from the truth.
Good video I own a business and this commercial vs personal towing is very annoying to me I live in the state of NY and was towing my landscaping trailer my pickup truck had a broken leaf spring and they took me out of service I was leaving for a camping trip the same day and asked if I could tow my camper with this truck and the cop said yes as long as it's for personal use, so I don't have to have a safe truck as long as I'm not making money with it the rules should apply to everyone not just the business man. My 60 year old father can tow his 40 ft camper with no dot physical but I'm 28 and I need one to pull two lawn mowers kinda doesn't make sense New York dot is a money grab
He is incorrect your personal drivers license Is only good for 26,000 lbs GVWR and it states that on it. Next take a 3/4 truck rated at 11,000lb GVWR plus a trailer rated at 17,000lb GVWR the total is 28,000 LB plated and you are required to have a CDL to even pull the two together empty. because you can only operate up to 26,000lb plated vehicles in any combination by law because that's all your licensed for. So his winning the lotter and operating a Semi truck with a GVWR of 53,200 lbs. is Illegal. Just go's to show how they discriminate against truck drivers period.Not like he didn't admit that they do in his conversation. It doesn't mean he has to have apported plates etc. it can be tagged as an RV but can not be operated without a CDL.
Exactly I live in PA a couple years ago I worked for a frac company. Our pumps were overweight not overdimesional, when we crossed into WV we had to stop and put oversize signs on .
@@veteranheavyequipmechanic4990 Heck, in WV in 2001 legally I needed them just for my pickup on some of WV's State Highways. Not overweight but oversized. State law was under 120" lanes and a vehicle over 96" required them. My pickup, 102" at the rear wheel's treads from the factory. Of course, some of WV's roads aren't even 15' wide total. ;-) And back then, even some of the Federal Highways didn't have 10' lanes but as the pickup met Federal standards, they couldn't do anything about it on those roads.
And this is why I dint care for these state inspection stations. So anyone can drive a semi without a cdl as long as they are not getting paid. Thought these laws were about safety. And most of these pickups hauling these big fifth wheel campers are over weight.
NO IN MOST STATES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE IN THE CLASS FOR THE WEIGHT OF VEHICLE YOU WANT TO DRIVE .NON CDL THERE IS NO PHYSICAL CARD CDL LICENSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AND CARRY A UP TO DATE PHYSICAL CARD.
@@alphonsotate2982 True if you are actively driving Commerically over state lines. I still have my CDL's but not medical card. But I do not drive for a living now.
AS has been mentioned - check the state - in our case - MI - www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1627_8669_53324-213067--,00.html LastLine Exemptions The following people do not need a CDL: Active Duty Military (including National Guard): With military licenses operating military vehicles.
Police Officers and Firefighters: Meeting approved training standards and operating authorized emergency vehicles.
Farmers: Operating vehicles within a 150 mile radius of their farm. An F-endorsement is needed by farmers operating combination vehicles whose towing vehicle has a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. A knowledge test, but no skills test, is required to obtain the F-endorsement. However, farmers who carry hazardous materials in amounts requiring placarding while operating combination vehicles whose towing vehicle has a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, or a single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, need a CDL with a hazardous materials endorsement.
=====>>>Individuals: Operating motor homes or other vehicles used exclusively to transport personal possessions or family members, for non-business purposes.
Im a 37 year trucker. No! You don’t hafta stop if youre driving a pickup truck with a pickup bed on it. It doesn’t matter what size RV you have you don’t need to stop. If youre DELIVERING NEW RV’S you don’t need to stop. If you’re driving the biggest U-Haul truck ever made you don’t need to stop. The weigh stations are only interested in the big trucks and issues pertaining to big trucks. That’s it. Nothing else. If they want to talk to you they will jump in their car and chase you down.
Trooper Hoover seems cool. It is nice to see someone wanting to help educate others. I never had a problem with a Trooper over the years. Just one Billy Bad Ass dot inspector. That seemed to hate life and every one he met. But I really like that Brent Hoover is showing what things to look for. Should talk him into doing TH-cam videos. Not on Facebook.
I agree, never driven commercial vehicles but don't mind the learning experience being given free of charge in this video series....never hurts to know what you need to do and have to be commercial, and the things to look for is always good knowledge...made me go out and check my trailer after the last video, and I found a couple items I needed to fix...this is a huge deal people really just go out hookup their trailer and take off, nevermind the wheels are falling off, axle welds are broke and falling off, wiring is dragging the ground etc. This is a great learning experience for everyone regardless what type of license you hold and what type of trailer you pull, even if its just your weekend warrior camp trailer, or toy hauler.
Good video! It was really cool of Trooper Hoover to take the time to do the video with you. Be aware of variations in state laws. For example, in California (as of 15ish years ago when I last researched it), driver's license requirements are based on the kind of vehicle, not just the use. A California driver would need a class C CDL to haul Christy around recreationally in that Freightliner tractor-trailer, or a class B CDL to haul her recreationally in most 3 or more axle trucks. I don't know how CA law would apply to an out of state driver hauling Christy recreationally through CA, though.
And as far as the Texas NON - CDL ---- www.dps.texas.gov/DriverLicense/dlClasses.htm The website is laid out much better than this copy and Paste Individuals who are exempt from obtaining a CDL but may need a Class A or Class B driver license are: Operators of recreational vehicles driven for personal use Some farmers who meet certain criteria Operators of cotton-seed modules or cotton burrs A fire-fighting or emergency vehicle operator Military vehicle operators Vehicles owned, leased or controlled by an air carrier For more information on exemptions, please refer to the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Drivers Handbook. Classification Description Class A Authorizes an individual to drive: Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more A combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 pounds or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds Class B Authorizes an individual to drive: Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,000 pounds or more that is towing a vehicle with a GVWR that does not exceed 10,000 pounds or a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds A bus with a seating capacity of 24 passengers or more including the driver Class C Authorizes an individual to drive: Single vehicle or combination of vehicles that are not included in Class A or Class B Single vehicle with a GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds towing a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds Designed to transport 23 or less passengers including the driver Note: Vehicles rated for the transport of 16-23 passengers including the driver require a Class C CDL, unless exempt
Did you not listen? Are you a commercial vehicle? IF NOT you do not have to stop. Comical since the state does their own road inspections and the road are garbage. Nice scam Indiana.
How's she goin'? Pretty interesting topic. I like the attitude of the officer. Some guys aren't as nice as him I bet!!! Take care and I like your Gator!!!!
30+ yes retired driver, if you have your ducks in a row never sweated a scale except back in the bad ol days when Oh and Mo were notorious for being shady.
My question has always been, why are we pulling in "For Hire" Trucks that are clearly better trained to haul weight for 10001 lbs, or more, but not Joe blow 4-wheeler pulling up to 26000 lbs, pulling doubles, that I can guarantee, do not have the training and experience?
Officer Hoover had a few good education videos on his YT channel a year or so back. For some reason he took them down. Kind of a shame. We see Load Securment violations constantly coming into our Sawmill. We try to educate, but some just don't care.
So my question is if I’m not commercial, do I have to stop at weigh stations if I’m over 10K for my private vehicle? If I pull a trailer and under 26,001 lbs GVCWR? All for private use, no commerce traveling through state to state ?
Great video as always. If for example you were hauling that UTV to a jobsite, it would be considered commercial because it wasn't going to your house? Even if its your personal truck and your personal UTV? As in your buddy calls from the jobsite and says hey could you bring your UTV over with the rotary broom on it so we can use it to clean off the driveway of this house we are working on? That's considered a commercial use even though its your personal UTV? Wait a minute, this officer is saying if I went over to the semi-truck dealer and bought a truck and trailer combination I'd be free to drive it all I wanted as long as I never used it for any commercial purpose...as in I could use it to travel the country and never need a CDL? I always thought those trucks were CDL required due to their size/weight regardless of being used in a commercial setting or not? So in effect I could go buy one and learn to drive it and never need a CDL or learner's permit? Could you ask Trooper Hoover to talk about that in further detail, I suspect there's a lot more to that though? Thank you.
Anyone who hold a load in a trailer and get pay needs an authority US DOT or MC number or state number. Please don't believe those whom promote freight business without US DOT or MC an insurance. Is not true yo make 5k to 8k a a week. After fuel insurance an everything you make 13 dollars an hour. All those who stated lies are full of it
This sound like government overreach to me. What is next, they are going to stop your SUV if you pick up too many kids at soccer practice. Are soccer mom the next "commercial group" these station are setup for SEMI trucks from Walmart and truck hauling escalators but a normal guy who make a few bucks off a youtube channel.
i have my truck ram 2500 and 40ft gooseneck trailer dual dually axels i haul my show trucks too out of state truck shows i have my cdl depending on the truck i take i might be over 26k do i need too stop at the scales ?
I missed truck & trailer Tuesday 😀 I hate going to the weigh station we consistently get our log book scrutinized at one particular weigh station with our cube van at work . They don’t check for any mechanical issues we don’t be overweight it’s only mattresses they just want our log book and the frustrating part is each officer working there has A different way he likes it filled out so you always get A log book lesson unless you get the same guy couple times in A row . It’s ridiculous 😡 . the funny part is they never check our 5 ton box truck
You can’t drive a kw without a cdl weight is over10000 your license is rated if class c under 10000 so if you get in a vehicle over the rate limit of your license you half to have a cdl so you Indiana folk don’t go get a kenworth and a trailer the go get that gallon of milk because 1st you can’t operate a commercial vehicle or control a trailer your not born able to do this you need training unless in Indiana people are just natural better and smarter than average man
They do not enforce private vehicles, motor homes, non-commercial vehicle. except money for hauling anything and if they find out your screwed. They can not get money from the every day driver, the commercial driver if he does not pay losses his license. government money maker.
Tim, their is differences between a weight test and an inspection. My son in law drove our Kenworth W900L into a weigh station and asked for a Class I inspection. Apparently they go over the truck with a fine tooth comb. The inspector was upset; the only thing he could find was a fire extinguisher that was not fastened down - so he was sighted. He turned to the inspector and offered him his hand. The inspector was a little shocked. But my son in law explained that this particular weigh station had a reputation for being really tough, he had had the truck about three months, went over it from bumper to bumper fixing things and this inspection confirmed his view that he had missed nothing of significance. He keeps a very detailed maintenance log book - what he did, what he needs to do and when and what he would do with some play money.
Great video Tim. I'm glad you found Officer Hoover. You Tube is making him a celebrity. You're the 3rd channel I know of to have him on. I don't know how Indiana does there plating and registration. When I was otr I always ran under DOT numbers and apportioned plates gross weight #80,000. Illinois has so many different license plate classifications it's ridiculous. At a class d plate and above you are required to have your truck safety inspected every 6 months. Trailers are included somewhere in that mess( I think it goes by weight). If you have DOT numbers then it is only a once a year inspection . Cdl or not in Illinois you have to have the appropriate registered weight classification for single and combination. vehicles. Further more Illinois has bridge laws, weight limits, and different classifications on roads. All very confusing to drivers and officers. Knowledge is power .
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
I like that Jon. Never heard it before.
Truth right there.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Carrier_Act_of_1980
That is a Ronald Reagan statement!
But, I stop moving, still do not see subsidy coming my way.
Check your state about license requirements. Weigh of the vehicle dictates the type of license you need in some states.
Below 26,000lbs and below is Class C. Anything above requires a CDL if commercial hauling. You can get away as a home owner with a Class C as long as in your state. If you leave and above 26k youll need a CDL.. Its a pain in the ass...
Several states have special non-CDL license types or endorsements. In NC I have a Class A Normal license which allows me to drive whatever I want non-commercial non-hazmat. I did a video on it a while back. TX and PA are similar to NC. CA is more restrictive. Check your state!
Awesome job guys
I wish this had been around way back when I started driving. (Before the internet!) Would have made my experiences easier with the DOT. (Although, I rarely had any problems with MY side of the encounters, as logbooks, HOS load securement etc... Mine was usually COMPANY faults!)
Really like your videos. GO GREEN! GO SPARTANS!
Go white go Spartans is this the Spartans Rule The World TH-cam channel?
Im confused. Did the trooper just say you can buy a semi privately and dont need a cdl to drive it, as long as its not for commercial use? If im not mistaken, weigh scales are federal? So this would mean you can privately buy and drive a semi without a cdl in any state? Am i understanding this correctly? Because if so, thats awesome. I never knew.
Follow up on their Facebook page..trooper Hoover will respond there.
Every state is different when it comes to DOT compliance. As far as I am concerned the person who only tows occasionally is much more likely to overlook a safety issue than a professional driver. Every commercial driver is required to do daily inspections on truck and trailer. Take a look at the federal motor carrier safety administration's website if you want to be overwhelmed with regulations.
I never have stopped at weigh station and not gonna start.
Well you should be afraid because you still can be stopped and not to leave until you get your load the white right weight in a second of all even equipment with a regular trailer you can stop and be overloaded so when you even with your lawn mower and your other equipment try and figure out what flea what you waive so you won't be overweight and make sure all your equipment is right because you can be stopped by hey come Marshall highway patrol or. And still be set on side the road until you get everything fixed and ticketed and it could be a big ticket to so be safe take care of you to lose because I have the money maker and they will take care of you good luck everybody and be careful
Don't pull into the scale in a pick up problem solved...
It’s the law in some states. Nebraska for example.
Eye doctor needed, ramp to the scale had a red X, he could have bypassed the scale.
Discussed in the video. This was a pre-planned appointment.
New York as well
If it is being used for commercial use then yes you do, especially if it is over 10001lbs solo or combo...
"pull in sit down have a chat"
It's revenue generating first and safety second!
AMEN DRIVER. BE SAFE. GOD BLESS
@@MrTheHillfolk - nothing to do with officer safety. It's all a way to generate $$$$. If they're so scared of what's on the other side of the tint they'd not target so many cars just for tint. It's a reason to fish for whatever else than can get you on.
All they have to do is say they thought the tint was too dark and now the interview begins.
@@joshuapotter7372
Exactamundo.
Winner winner chicken dinner for you sir.
Don't run your shitty equipment then.
More like Revenue Generating 1st, 2nd & 3rd. No safety in mind.
They don’t make troopers any better than Hoover. Firm, Fair and Consistant....
small-town cops tend to be good. state troopers and city cops. you better have legal insurance.
Excellent video. I still carry my CDL medical card because I was a commercial driver and now I'm a farmer. Just in case farming doesn't pan out I could always go back driving truck. As a commercial truck driver when the light says come in your stomach falls to the floor. And most truck drivers would no what I'm talkin about. Have a great evening keep up the good work
The Farming Life been there many times over the last 26 years.
I normally get the light when empty. I never get it when I have a load in the pickup truck and trailer. I'm use to it. Had my commercial license for over 40 years now and most likely giving it up on my next birthday. I had no need for the medical card as I was exempt working for the State.
As an independent o/o, I know exactly what you’re talking about.
It’s none of their business what you are doing if it’s not commercial
russianstarwelder you wouldn’t feel that way if you got hurt or killed by a person that was over weight or was pulling a trailer that couldn’t stop.
@@cledussnow3935 they are the Indiana State Police commercial division. Being overweight is generally a bridge weight restriction issue not a braking issue.
Very true.....
Good video for those who never experienced a weight station!
Just say your private and make them proved otherwise.
Thanks to Trooper Hoover for his information and want to help get questions answered. Just keep in mind that the rules and the interpretation of rules varies from state to state and just because it is one way in Indiana doesn't mean it's that way everywhere. I think this is going to be an interesting series of videos, thanks for doing them Tim.
Can be up to the trooper interp also, u will never know for sure ur ok
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In other words, when they see a “commercial” vehicle they see $$$$
Bread and butta
Think that guy with the load of logs needs a few more straps 😁
I used to work at a dealer for log loaders. The rule back then anyway, was a strap or chain every ten feet. So a twelve foot log would need two chains.
Awesome and i wish more states would do these kids of things to educate the general public on how it works and we would all be better to learn from it
I tow a 15,000 lb + trailer for work everyday with my F250 during the summer. What I never understood was that I technically need a chauffeur's or CDL licence and have to stop at the scales and get a DOT physical every 2 years and get my truck inspected every year. But a guy who just retired from a factory or office job with no truck driving experience can go out and buy a F350 and a 40ft fifth wheel trailer (and some even tow a boat behind the camper) or a big ol motorhome and they don't need a physical or pass a driving test. I see 80+ year old guys driving huge motorhomes down the highway all the time who look like they could croak at any moment these guys should have to follow the same laws as commercial drivers. They are no better than anyone else what a joke.
Many states have started implementing a noncommercial class A and B endorsement to combat this exact problem,
RV Lobby?
@@reidcrosby6241 I don't understand your question, please clarify and I'll do my best to answer your question
Should never need any special license to drive your personal vehicle whether it’s a motor home or a 40 ft trailer that’s absurd to think so
@@veteranheavyequipmechanic4990 perhaps the RV Lobby to Congress has something to do with that. If it's truely about 'safety", shouldn't we ALL have the same base physical/health/eye sight/hearing etc...test?.....not advocating for this, just saying.
Used to have fb and Officer Hoover does a good job informing drivers on how to avoid him. Lol He understands trucking more then drivers give him credit for.
Oh.......anytime you do anything beyond your own personal business, is considered "commercial " & the parasitic Government needs to get into your pocket, despite any safety concerns....I see, said the blind man.....
Officer Hoover!!!! Logger Wades and Dirt Perfects buddy
ellerbeeweston yep
How are the state make money
@@clintoncross3691 English, please!
Did he just say I can drive my own semi to Walmart without a CDL?? Try that and your new name will be defendant.
You do realize CDL stands for commercial driver's license you can drive your own private Vehicles anywhere you want. Just think about all those old vacationers rolling around in 30,000 lb 40 ft long RVs.
You can haul your own stuff in your own semi up to 150 miles from home without a CDL, you can even work for a farm and haul their stuff in their semi without a CDL, i wouldn't cross a state line though, I recently went through this by terre haute Indiana and went through a roadside stop from a very nice Indiana State Police officer and had zero issues, I wore my seat belt, had a fire extinguisher, safety triangles and my stuff was in working condition (even for a 1986 Freightliner) and it was an educational experience and went well
@@bigblockin427 Recreational vehicles are exempt. Farmers are exempt, however average Joe is not and will be ticketed.
@@thegraintruckguy4345 The 150 mile exemption only applies to individuals who work on a farm, and the use has to be directly related to the farm operation. Look up the Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1986 (CMVSA).
There are a number of exemptions.
@@matthewevans4296 In Illinois it's the same but you must have farm plates on the vehicle .
Sooo it’s about generating revenue. State wants its Share. .
Eliminate the confusion by adding "Over 10000 Lbs" to All Trucks must stop signs!
Didn't you hear. If you use any vehicle used for business such as deliveries should stop at port of entries /weight stations. Doesn't matter how much it weighs
Not the same in all states.
My 3500 has 12300 gross
U also have to think of combined weight as well under 26,000 pounds (trailer and pickup truck)
Officer Hoover shifting from foot to foot and hands constantly moving. He's just twitching and itching to write an out of service ticket.
Great info officer Hoover. Watch what you say to DOT if they could get away with it, they would regulate pizza delivery drivers.
@@mattlane2282 AMEN.
Junk Man, in Pa. Even the pizza guy should/needs have a DOT physical from how I understand it. Any person driving for commercial purpose......same with "lab delivery" cars (hospital testing).....they even would require DOT numbers in the side. ..
Officer Hoover has been on Logger Wade's channels too he is a wealth of knowledge on truck enforcement. Oh he will give you a ticket but he will educate you on the infraction so you don't make it again and know how the law works so you can share that info with others so we as a commercial and non commercial carriers are better educated and safer on the roads.
I wish they would inspect rv's and travel trailer's they need to but dot reflecter tape on the back of them .I but it on my back bumper so if the lights go out people can still see it
I'd do an annual exam, but every weigh station? No weigh lol
I generally have a bad taste in my mouth for these guys but Mr. Hoover seems pretty cool. Seems like he's trying to educate instead of just be a fee collector. A few years ago I was hassled by DOT a few times for just pulling lawn mowers around. Had to get dot numbers and all the BS that goes with it. They were enforcing trucks down to 10,000 gvw which was nonsense really. Thankfully, it wasn't a profitable venture for them and they wound up laying off half of the officers and raised cut off back up to 26,000 gvw last I heard.
grassgobbler72 it’s not all there fault did you ever see a lawnmower come flying off a trailer when idiot jackknifed it ? How about the wheel barrow they put up top and forget to strap and guess where that goes some poor mom on her way to grocery store shall I go on yes I believe they need more on them not for money just a education
grassgobbler72 in the end the state could care less about safety if they really cared they would bust all the drug houses in their neighborhoods but they don’t they drive past them in a state it’s over budget like this one they’re out to make money anyway and every way they possibly can safety is the “The disguise“ under which they operate just like handing out speeding tickets claiming people 6 miles over the speed limit our safety concern which is a ridiculous notion One thing I know for sure is year after year it gets more strict and more strict until theThe fees will get so high there will be an outcry and a partial reset.
Longhaullarry did a video about one of his dot inspections. The guy put on a white glove and ran it on his oil pan. Haha. Real "just doing my job" highway Nazis.
In a so called free country just comply with what ever these corrupt politicians and fleecing law enforcement agencies have to say never the same state to state they say the other guy is always wrong so I will give you a ticket so you can continue to pay.
Moral of the story, you're not going to make a dollar without giving me a cut. Sickening
Looking very forward to seeing these videos from DOT
Tim if you have heard of Logger Wade on TH-cam he has a video or two with this same Trooper and let me tell you this Trooper has a great sense of humour
was wondering if same guy thought so but i wasnt 100% sure
Great video Tim! Fantastic idea.! Looking forward to the rest of the series.
good info Tim, Trooper Hoover has some good info with loggerwade also.
The reason that you don't need a CDL for big motor homes towing a Suburban is because OLD PEOPLE VOTE!
John Thorpe no it’s because they are not engaged in commercial operations! There’s a big difference between a diesel pusher motorhome that gets 8000 easy miles a year and a commercial truck thats pounded 6 days a week for business by 4 different drivers and it running at max gvwr all the time .
They should still have to have a cdl
William Uskoski I have an A CDL , I think an air brake endorsement would be fine . Everyone has to learn by getting behind the wheel.Everyone here had a first day behind the wheel of a car/truck or big rig. I’m way more concerned with aggressive drivers ,inattentive/texting drivers/ and equipment in poor condition that is a danger to everyone on the road.
What?
This should be a good series, Hoover seems like a nice guy.
We own a commercial cleaning company they go over 90 miles away and back doing Bellstores floors. They have never had to stop at a weigh station. Even pulling a large commercial grade enclosed trailer. On Ohio.
In other words if you make good money we want a piece of your pie.
Government putting their noses where they have no business being.
Ok, so what are you going to do to fix it?
I have had my dealings with government on all levels, and I was stating my opinion. I am older, and just prefer my business to be my business.
From my perspective, the trooper has a great attitude and seems to have a goal of helping folks. Great information for all of us that tow. Furthermore, presenting the information on Facebook with the idea of helping pass helpful information along...what more could we ask for from government? Thanks for presenting this video!
None of us want government intrusion, but as a family man I appreciate the state troopers making sure the big rig vehicles are at least safe. I used to drive commercial and I hated weight stations or weigh enforcement officers. But I also realized that many do anything to beat the system but doing so, they put my family in danger. Fine line between law enforcement and being jerks! But my experience shows me that very few officers are out there just to bust ur B@@#$, they are just keeping our families safe!
All responses to my first post certainly have valid points being expressed.
I’ve been trucking for over 24 years I learned early on that pulling into scales an speaking with DOT is alright, don’t be scared I’ve learned all sorts of things not just what you have spoke about but routes, shortcuts etc. these guys are usually just like Trooper Hoover glad to help.
Tim another stop that you have to make occasionally is at an Agricultural Inspection Station. You might want to do a show dealing with what type of trucks and trailers have to stop at an ag inspection station. I was told when I stopped at the ag inspection station on I-75 entering Florida that even if my trailer is empty I have to stop.
Looks like a 4 in 1 bucket in the truck bed
There’s one thing that the DOT Officer left out. 1st of all if you have a pre-pass system you don’t always have to stop @ a Weigh Station. 2nd of all the only time you’ll ever need to stop is if your truck & trailer are fully overweight in which case make sure that you have the proper papers in the cab that state that you can haul things that are over weight (called over weight permits). Also if you haul a reefer unit or dry van make sure that your trailer tandems are set so that your truck & trailer are not over weight. Also Most DOT Officers don’t want to take the time to give you a problem, so don’t go looking for a reason to get them to put you out of service. Company’s will be given points if their trucks are shutdown for any reason. Make 100% sure that you inspect your truck & if needed stop @ a truck stop & double check your weight especially before a Weigh Station because you’ll have burned up a lot of fuel by the time you get there & your weight might change.
What I consider a huge problem is that he said anyone can go and buy a semi and trailer and drive it around with normal plates and no CDL. Does he not enforce an air brake endorsement?
In wv if its not for hire a regular license is all thats required
@@wvboy0311 I'm a w va resident and that is absolutely not true. 26,001 pounds and or air brakes you need a cdl
@@turdferguson7813 In WV, maybe not in Indiana.
Um, thats some interesting “interpretations”
I thought those scales looked familiar I drive by there almost every weekend heading to Terre Haute and some evenings through the week
Well ! Well ! Let me see that $100 dollars you got from yur niebor. ?? Then we all good. You can charge him that other 500. We know you getting.k by 😮
I have 35 years in the truck Tim I'm retired Teamster,, got my gold card good company,, It was great,, didn't need the union! we need it for the work we did on the docks or whatever we did but anyway I do not fear for a weigh station,, scale house that's what we call them.. I actually like them if you go back to the days when I started driving a truck I'm 70 now and those days you didn't have the two seats no radio I know a lot of things you would have holes in the floor which it would stop frags in in the winter time to keep a little bit warmer if the heater worked no power steering !! !! trucks weren't maintained like today you had a protector your own ass ,, when you work for a company and made sure you were safe yourself ! those were those days I went through that it was bad and adventurous at the same time.. today they're like driving a Cadillac .. you can't imagine . Just try imagine that it's like a Model T versus a modern-day Cadillac that is the difference ..we didn't have air ride seats. ! we didn't have spring seats. ,I remember when I had a
B model Mack and run her.
( OLD BETTS ) like old Betsy that was her name good truck two shifters gas engine very very slow across country. Back in those days you had a bench seat,, every time you hit a pothole went through your spine..
the weigh stations protect us the protect you I do not fear them ! sometimes they're not on a reasonable,, but most of the time they're just doing their job and good people !
D.O.T. inspections I don't fear THEM
in my day. I was glad they're there .co. would not fix them ,,
thank God for DOT.. anyway that's my experience.
P.S. I worked many many years with hazardous material you cannot imagine what I seen God bless you Tim and your family
Talk about a few miles when they say I have a million I laugh I always tell him I got that many backing up
B Mack with a 6.8 liter straight six gasser. ....just saw one of those the other day, someone had taken ALL the body components, but everything else was intact and not rusted out.
Trooper Hoover rocks!!!! I’ve been through a lot of weigh stations and DOT inspections, some good officers but more dink’s than anything else. All they were interested in doing was writing tickets. Trooper Hoover is interested in informing the driver why something is incorrect so it won’t happen the next time. Thanks Tim and Trooper Hoover
Tim Christi & Trooper this very interesting this series is a must to watch thank you
God Bless All
PaK
A video from more than 13 minutes looked like 2 minutes. What a nice trooper!!! Can't wait to see more from him.
Thanks. I REALLY appreciate Trooper Hoover. Some of his off camera stories make me like him even more! His motivation is definitely in the right place!
Look, listen, smell and touch. Do your pre-trip in an orderly fashion so you don’t miss anything. The things you miss are the things that will cause issues. If you get interrupted while doing a pre-trip go back a few steps and start over. Weeping rust streaks are a tell tale sign of something loose ie lugnuts. Use a grease stick to Mark an area that needs to be looked at better or a repair needs to be made.
I routinely run between Illinois and Indiana hauling hazmat and never have an issue with DOT ! That trooper is a real nice guy and knows the laws! Thanks for the information
Hey Tim Don't tell him that you know Logger Wade.. he might arrest you LOLLOL...
So you can drive a semi without a CDL if you are doing it for fun and not for profit? WOW
Tim thank you! This was great information.
I'm sure this series is going to ruffle a few feathers! That in door inspection station is amazing,our inspection are done outside in a parking lot with a creeper. You guys are putting your channel to a new level, ty for sharing
I think he is dead wrong or nobody enforces it. I run a dually with an enclosed trailer with my race car in it. I have extra fuel tanks in my truck, tool boxes,tires etc all exposed. In 25 years have never stopped at a station, and have never had an issue. I go all over the country. Something is not correct here. I do not have not for hire sign’s either
What is a "truck"? Well, was is a taxi? Any vehicle, such as a sedan, a minivan, can be used as a taxi. A taxi is a commercial vehicle. So, a "pick up", if not used for commercial purposes, is not a "truck". Any vehicle can be used as a "truck". There is an old school loophole, by painting or using stenciled lettering, a notice on the door "Not For Hire", and so the vehicle is a marked vessel. You don't need a "TRUCK" plate for a pick up. If you do get a truck plate, you are screwed.
Don’t like dot at all
The video trooper Hoover made with Logger Wade was hilarious!!! But informative
deereman260 share the link please.
m.th-cam.com/video/AeEITcV_u0Y/w-d-xo.html Logger Wade Dot training level 2 walkthrough
10,000 pounds, really😮
seems like they’re picking on people to me🤷🏻♂️
They are basing it on the federal definition of what is a commercial vehicle.
The definition of a commercial motor vehicle or a CMV is a vehicle that is designed to carry cargo or payload that has a gross vehicle weight rating greater than 10000 pounds.
As he stated in some States there is verbage on the sign outside the scale. Some States say no vehicles under 26000 pounds combined. Other States say no pick up trucks. Then it becomes a little technical. Basically you need to at that point know what the definition in your state is for a pick up truck.
Then it becomes even worse. Texas for example will say in their laws while involved in Commerce. Other States will say while operating a commercial vehicle. So the difference would be if you register your pick up truck commercially you are still operating a commercial vehicle regardless of use. While other States would only apply while you are actually working. I own and operate businesses in 3 different States. You have to dig deep into the details and become familiar. Many assume that if you read the federal regulations you're covered. This is far from the truth.
Good video I own a business and this commercial vs personal towing is very annoying to me I live in the state of NY and was towing my landscaping trailer my pickup truck had a broken leaf spring and they took me out of service I was leaving for a camping trip the same day and asked if I could tow my camper with this truck and the cop said yes as long as it's for personal use, so I don't have to have a safe truck as long as I'm not making money with it the rules should apply to everyone not just the business man. My 60 year old father can tow his 40 ft camper with no dot physical but I'm 28 and I need one to pull two lawn mowers kinda doesn't make sense New York dot is a money grab
He is incorrect your personal drivers license Is only good for 26,000 lbs GVWR and it states that on it. Next take a 3/4 truck rated at 11,000lb GVWR plus a trailer rated at 17,000lb GVWR the total is 28,000 LB plated and you are required to have a CDL to even pull the two together empty. because you can only operate up to 26,000lb plated vehicles in any combination by law because that's all your licensed for. So his winning the lotter and operating a Semi truck with a GVWR of 53,200 lbs. is Illegal. Just go's to show how they discriminate against truck drivers period.Not like he didn't admit that they do in his conversation. It doesn't mean he has to have apported plates etc. it can be tagged as an RV but can not be operated without a CDL.
I have been pulled in that very scale, and he's correct about different states requiring load signs and other equipment.
Exactly I live in PA a couple years ago I worked for a frac company. Our pumps were overweight not overdimesional, when we crossed into WV we had to stop and put oversize signs on .
@@veteranheavyequipmechanic4990 Heck, in WV in 2001 legally I needed them just for my pickup on some of WV's State Highways. Not overweight but oversized. State law was under 120" lanes and a vehicle over 96" required them. My pickup, 102" at the rear wheel's treads from the factory. Of course, some of WV's roads aren't even 15' wide total. ;-) And back then, even some of the Federal Highways didn't have 10' lanes but as the pickup met Federal standards, they couldn't do anything about it on those roads.
And this is why I dint care for these state inspection stations. So anyone can drive a semi without a cdl as long as they are not getting paid. Thought these laws were about safety. And most of these pickups hauling these big fifth wheel campers are over weight.
That varies a LOT depending on the state. Here in GA now, there are non commercial license grades for those "large" vehicles.
NO IN MOST STATES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE IN THE CLASS FOR THE WEIGHT OF VEHICLE YOU WANT TO DRIVE .NON CDL THERE IS NO PHYSICAL CARD CDL LICENSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AND CARRY A UP TO DATE PHYSICAL CARD.
@@alphonsotate2982 True if you are actively driving Commerically over state lines. I still have my CDL's but not medical card. But I do not drive for a living now.
AS has been mentioned - check the state - in our case - MI - www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1627_8669_53324-213067--,00.html LastLine
Exemptions
The following people do not need a CDL:
Active Duty Military (including National Guard): With military licenses operating military vehicles.
Police Officers and Firefighters: Meeting approved training standards and operating authorized emergency vehicles.
Farmers: Operating vehicles within a 150 mile radius of their farm.
An F-endorsement is needed by farmers operating combination vehicles whose towing vehicle has a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. A knowledge test, but no skills test, is required to obtain the F-endorsement.
However, farmers who carry hazardous materials in amounts requiring placarding while operating combination vehicles whose towing vehicle has a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, or a single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, need a CDL with a hazardous materials endorsement.
=====>>>Individuals: Operating motor homes or other vehicles used exclusively to transport personal possessions or family members, for non-business purposes.
I live in Indiana and love camping. According to this, I understand that I don't have to stop. Is this correct or am I misunderstanding something?
Im a 37 year trucker. No! You don’t hafta stop if youre driving a pickup truck with a pickup bed on it.
It doesn’t matter what size RV you have you don’t need to stop.
If youre DELIVERING NEW RV’S you don’t need to stop.
If you’re driving the biggest U-Haul truck ever made you don’t need to stop.
The weigh stations are only interested in the big trucks and issues pertaining to big trucks.
That’s it. Nothing else. If they want to talk to you they will jump in their car and chase you down.
Trooper Hoover seems cool. It is nice to see someone wanting to help educate others. I never had a problem with a Trooper over the years. Just one Billy Bad Ass dot inspector. That seemed to hate life and every one he met. But I really like that Brent Hoover is showing what things to look for. Should talk him into doing TH-cam videos. Not on Facebook.
I agree, never driven commercial vehicles but don't mind the learning experience being given free of charge in this video series....never hurts to know what you need to do and have to be commercial, and the things to look for is always good knowledge...made me go out and check my trailer after the last video, and I found a couple items I needed to fix...this is a huge deal people really just go out hookup their trailer and take off, nevermind the wheels are falling off, axle welds are broke and falling off, wiring is dragging the ground etc.
This is a great learning experience for everyone regardless what type of license you hold and what type of trailer you pull, even if its just your weekend warrior camp trailer, or toy hauler.
Good video! It was really cool of Trooper Hoover to take the time to do the video with you. Be aware of variations in state laws. For example, in California (as of 15ish years ago when I last researched it), driver's license requirements are based on the kind of vehicle, not just the use. A California driver would need a class C CDL to haul Christy around recreationally in that Freightliner tractor-trailer, or a class B CDL to haul her recreationally in most 3 or more axle trucks. I don't know how CA law would apply to an out of state driver hauling Christy recreationally through CA, though.
Mental note. Don’t move to CA! :-)
And as far as the Texas NON - CDL ---- www.dps.texas.gov/DriverLicense/dlClasses.htm
The website is laid out much better than this copy and Paste
Individuals who are exempt from obtaining a CDL but may need a Class A or Class B driver license are:
Operators of recreational vehicles driven for personal use
Some farmers who meet certain criteria
Operators of cotton-seed modules or cotton burrs
A fire-fighting or emergency vehicle operator
Military vehicle operators
Vehicles owned, leased or controlled by an air carrier
For more information on exemptions, please refer to the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Drivers Handbook.
Classification Description
Class A
Authorizes an individual to drive:
Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more
A combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 pounds or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds
Class B
Authorizes an individual to drive:
Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more
Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,000 pounds or more that is towing a vehicle with a GVWR that does not exceed 10,000 pounds or a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds
A bus with a seating capacity of 24 passengers or more including the driver
Class C
Authorizes an individual to drive:
Single vehicle or combination of vehicles that are not included in Class A or Class B
Single vehicle with a GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds towing a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds
Designed to transport 23 or less passengers including the driver
Note: Vehicles rated for the transport of 16-23 passengers including the driver require a Class C CDL, unless exempt
Did you not listen? Are you a commercial vehicle? IF NOT you do not have to stop.
Comical since the state does their own road inspections and the road are garbage. Nice scam Indiana.
How's she goin'? Pretty interesting topic. I like the attitude of the officer. Some guys aren't as nice as him I bet!!! Take care and I like your Gator!!!!
30+ yes retired driver, if you have your ducks in a row never sweated a scale except back in the bad ol days when Oh and Mo were notorious for being shady.
Road Pirates!
My question has always been, why are we pulling in "For Hire" Trucks that are clearly better trained to haul weight for 10001 lbs, or more, but not Joe blow 4-wheeler pulling up to 26000 lbs, pulling doubles, that I can guarantee, do not have the training and experience?
Officer Hoover had a few good education videos on his YT channel a year or so back.
For some reason he took them down. Kind of a shame.
We see Load Securment violations constantly coming into our Sawmill.
We try to educate, but some just don't care.
So my question is if I’m not commercial, do I have to stop at weigh stations if I’m over 10K for my private vehicle? If I pull a trailer and under 26,001 lbs GVCWR? All for private use, no commerce traveling through state to state ?
Great video as always.
If for example you were hauling that UTV to a jobsite, it would be considered commercial because it wasn't going to your house? Even if its your personal truck and your personal UTV? As in your buddy calls from the jobsite and says hey could you bring your UTV over with the rotary broom on it so we can use it to clean off the driveway of this house we are working on? That's considered a commercial use even though its your personal UTV?
Wait a minute, this officer is saying if I went over to the semi-truck dealer and bought a truck and trailer combination I'd be free to drive it all I wanted as long as I never used it for any commercial purpose...as in I could use it to travel the country and never need a CDL? I always thought those trucks were CDL required due to their size/weight regardless of being used in a commercial setting or not? So in effect I could go buy one and learn to drive it and never need a CDL or learner's permit?
Could you ask Trooper Hoover to talk about that in further detail, I suspect there's a lot more to that though? Thank you.
Anyone who hold a load in a trailer and get pay needs an authority US DOT or MC number or state number. Please don't believe those whom promote freight business without US DOT or MC an insurance. Is not true yo make 5k to 8k a a week. After fuel insurance an everything you make 13 dollars an hour. All those who stated lies are full of it
If I'm going to get a level one, I want that cop, he seems pretty fair and just....
I've been stopped by him before, he is a really nice down to earth guy. A true professional.
This sound like government overreach to me. What is next, they are going to stop your SUV if you pick up too many kids at soccer practice. Are soccer mom the next "commercial group" these station are setup for SEMI trucks from Walmart and truck hauling escalators but a normal guy who make a few bucks off a youtube channel.
Cover roadside repair and mobile mechanics and DOT regulations for rigs under the 26001 lbs gvwr
i have my truck ram 2500 and 40ft gooseneck trailer dual dually axels i haul my show trucks too out of state truck shows i have my cdl depending on the truck i take i might be over 26k do i need too stop at the scales ?
Great job covering this
I missed truck & trailer Tuesday 😀
I hate going to the weigh station we consistently get our log book scrutinized at one particular weigh station with our cube van at work . They don’t check for any mechanical issues we don’t be overweight it’s only mattresses they just want our log book and the frustrating part is each officer working there has A different way he likes it filled out so you always get A log book lesson unless you get the same guy couple times in A row . It’s ridiculous 😡 . the funny part is they never check our 5 ton box truck
You can’t drive a kw without a cdl weight is over10000 your license is rated if class c under 10000 so if you get in a vehicle over the rate limit of your license you half to have a cdl so you Indiana folk don’t go get a kenworth and a trailer the go get that gallon of milk because 1st you can’t operate a commercial vehicle or control a trailer your not born able to do this you need training unless in Indiana people are just natural better and smarter than average man
They do not enforce private vehicles, motor homes, non-commercial vehicle. except money for hauling anything and if they find out your screwed. They can not get money from the every day driver, the commercial driver if he does not pay losses his license. government money maker.
Basically if you're getting paid or using it to get paid or making money that doesn't mean you don't need a cdl if you're over 26001 pounds
Tim, their is differences between a weight test and an inspection. My son in law drove our Kenworth W900L into a weigh station and asked for a Class I inspection. Apparently they go over the truck with a fine tooth comb. The inspector was upset; the only thing he could find was a fire extinguisher that was not fastened down - so he was sighted. He turned to the inspector and offered him his hand. The inspector was a little shocked. But my son in law explained that this particular weigh station had a reputation for being really tough, he had had the truck about three months, went over it from bumper to bumper fixing things and this inspection confirmed his view that he had missed nothing of significance. He keeps a very detailed maintenance log book - what he did, what he needs to do and when and what he would do with some play money.
Im in Texas & i find at least 60% of everything in the videos useful in some manner.
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Thanks Charles! Even if not useful, I hope you enjoy the other 40%!
DOT is a real pain in the arse when you just have a pickup truck and trailer doing small construction jobs
Clear as mud.... basically they can harass just about anyone if they choose to. Their powers should be explicitly defined and limited.
Great video Tim. I'm glad you found Officer Hoover. You Tube is making him a celebrity. You're the 3rd channel I know of to have him on. I don't know how Indiana does there plating and registration. When I was otr I always ran under DOT numbers and apportioned plates gross weight #80,000. Illinois has so many different license plate classifications it's ridiculous. At a class d plate and above you are required to have your truck safety inspected every 6 months. Trailers are included somewhere in that mess( I think it goes by weight). If you have DOT numbers then it is only a once a year inspection . Cdl or not in Illinois you have to have the appropriate registered weight classification for single and combination. vehicles. Further more Illinois has bridge laws, weight limits, and different classifications on roads. All very confusing to drivers and officers. Knowledge is power .
I wish those guys could keep semis out of the left lane on I-70!
I think they should keep everyone out of the left lane but me! Just name it the TTWT lane!
Basically...its all about the benjamins...how much much money you got and what do you weigh?