VIPER V10 TEARDOWN! From Bad To More Bad, To Mostly Bad. Who Needs A Coffee Table?

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  • Want to see a particular engine torn down? I may have already done one! I've done well over 20 other teardowns from Cummins to an LS7, and from Rotary to Ram Ecodiesels. Check them out here • Blown Up Engine Tear D...
    My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart located in the Saint Louis MO area. Part of our model is dismantling and selling parts from rare and niche market engines. If you're interested in buying parts from other engines I've torn down, email us at Importapartsales@gmail.com.
    In this video I tear down a (2004?) Dodge Viper V10 Core engine I bought from a viewer of this channel. I was told it had a bad cylinder, and he wasn't wrong! Join me as I tear this down and discover just how "bad" it is.
    As always, I like all the feedback, suggestions and even the criticism, I love it all.
    Catch you on the next one!
    -Eric

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  • @XPbIM3
    @XPbIM3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1125

    Engine teardown reveals:
    -exploded piston
    -ruined block
    -leaky head gaskets
    -loose valve seats
    -pitting on camshaft
    -scored conrod bearings
    -crankshaft ruined with pulley bolt seazed
    -full sump of water+oil mix
    What seller stated:
    -maybe one cylinder is bad...maybe

    • @ritzevespa
      @ritzevespa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I would go back like... They knew it haha

    • @adamdobrzanski6631
      @adamdobrzanski6631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      *ran when parked in craigslist ad

    • @PuerRidcully
      @PuerRidcully 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      "misfire on one cylinder"

    • @jpreleases
      @jpreleases 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That’s probably all the ECM was able to figure out

    • @retiredinbali9565
      @retiredinbali9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If the block is no good, you are left with nothing. What would a new block cost - $10,000.

  • @Puffie40
    @Puffie40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    That missing headbolt and headgasket is an obvious sign someone else did a "peek and shriek" on this engine.

    • @hubbsllc
      @hubbsllc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "Peek and shriek" - I must remember this one.

    • @jimbusmaximus4624
      @jimbusmaximus4624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly!

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMFAO

    • @craigpennington1251
      @craigpennington1251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I must be too damn old. What is peek & shriek? Never heard of that term. Been around engines & racing for 60 years +.

    • @Puffie40
      @Puffie40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@craigpennington1251 it apparently comes from the medical field: it refers to a surgeon opening someone up, finding out the patient is too far gone, so they close him back up.

  • @mased-v2j
    @mased-v2j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1096

    So nice of them to include dipping sauce with the piston nuggets.

    • @BudoReflex
      @BudoReflex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hahaha

    • @mcozpda3392
      @mcozpda3392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jajajaajajajajaaa , dodge flavors

    • @systemsbroken
      @systemsbroken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I understand that it tastes like baby seal tears.

    • @sti302man
      @sti302man 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oooooh buddy!

    • @AnthonySvt_
      @AnthonySvt_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My favorite 😋

  • @richkeylor787
    @richkeylor787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    That car was once brand new and being delivered to a super happy guy.
    And somewhere along the line, a series of really bad decisions were made, and here we are.😔

    • @NemoConsequentae
      @NemoConsequentae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Bad decisions... Often work together with the phrase, _"Alcohol was involved."_

    • @jacobrzeszewski6527
      @jacobrzeszewski6527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Temp gauge at 250: This is fine…

    • @indahooddererste
      @indahooddererste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      if it was an engine from vag several ppl would cry about the manufacturer :D

    • @mayhemmike1789
      @mayhemmike1789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You've summed up every car & bike I've ever owned 😅😅😅😥😥😥

    • @greentoolsnyc3985
      @greentoolsnyc3985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

  • @l00k4tstuff
    @l00k4tstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +747

    You're right - some people have no business working on engines. But considering how that engine got that way in the first place, some people have no business owning a high-performance vehicle, either.

    • @cablenowadays6586
      @cablenowadays6586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Me running my jeep in 15k mile intervals for oil changes and still driving it to 348k miles now

    • @Amerikanskis
      @Amerikanskis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@cablenowadays6586 uh... thats not a high performance engine lol?
      also its probably an older jeep and its probably the 4.0L which literally had decades of R&D by european and american engineers.

    • @ibannymous
      @ibannymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, it is a two-way street. Pun intended.

    • @jnordne2
      @jnordne2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Amerikanskis The 4.0L started out as the AMC 232, first introduced in 1964. The French added fuel injection and changed the bore/stroke in the 80's when they owned a large percentage of AMC. 70's AMC 258 cranks drop right into 4.0L blocks, making them 4.5L.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      shit happens,if you have a viper generally you drive them HARD....you don't anticipate stuff blowing up

  • @aTuWitty
    @aTuWitty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    "The cylinder with the piston delete" had me rolling.

  • @toraja04
    @toraja04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    “Chris Hansen’d that piston and told it to take a seat” 😂 😂 😂

    • @thgftiigghjfryyhgjiyreg8945
      @thgftiigghjfryyhgjiyreg8945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha

    • @robertwest3093
      @robertwest3093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perfect!

    • @N0nManfiold99
      @N0nManfiold99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After laughing at him saying that, I made sure to come down to the comment section and see if anybody else posted it before me. 😂

    • @KevinMLloyd
      @KevinMLloyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bravo

    • @baddriversoflittlerock8359
      @baddriversoflittlerock8359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to back it up and listen again to make sure I heard correctly.

  • @sakaraist
    @sakaraist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Owner definitely had a mangled cylinder, went to a shop, got an estimate for how much it would be and said "you're tryng to rip me off, I know someone who can do it for a third of that."

  • @michaelchan8915
    @michaelchan8915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Very interesting find on that crank pulley bolt. In the thirty years I've been turning wrenches for a living, I've always lived by the mantra of not forcing anything. If something won't "go", there's usually a reason for it. The crank pulley bolt hackery in this particular video reminds me of one particular time at my dealership. My coworker always like to get me to help with installation of tensioner-less belts. One particular such setup was on a Mustang GT with the 5.0 Coyote engine with A/C compressor belt. I was assisting my coworker with reinstalling the belt, while he was holding the belt in the manner needed to get it to realign with the grooves on both pulleys, I was tasked with turning the crank pulley. I remembered it being much tighter to turn the crank than it normally would be. At the point where the belt was about to seat properly was when the crank wouldn't turn any further. As I was about to put more force on the breaker bar to turn it further, I could feel the bolt was about to strip inside the crank, so of course I stopped. And that's when the both of us decided to think about what could possibly cause the crank to be that tight to turn. After some looking around, we both realized, the was on the lift low enough that the rear wheels were touching the, AND the car was left in gear (manual transmission). So..... what was happening, was that I was not only turning the engine over as I spinning the crank with the breaker bar. I was also spinning the rear wheels with it (they were just touching the ground but not with all the weight resting on it so I was able to overcome the resistance of the wheels turning). But by the time we had the belt situated where it was the tightest, the resistance to movement ended up being too much. As soon as we placed the transmission in neutral, we were able to put the belt on the rest of the way completely without further issue. Thankfully, I had the sense to stop, when I could feel the bolt about to turn an strip. Once again, in this profession, if something won't "go", there's a reason for it.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      wow,dont know if i would admit to this....

    • @enigma7791
      @enigma7791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brilliant answer! My old dad always told us exactly the same..."in engineering never force it as that is not engineering, it's demolition!"

    • @geobrower3069
      @geobrower3069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta give someone credit for actually getting another bolt into the nose!
      I wonder if this was in a shop and they broke the bolt off, thinking about the cost of tearing down the engine and replacing the crankshaft they elected to attempt a cheap fix. Maybe the tech that did it didn't tell their supervisor what he'd done and fixed it his/herself kinda "under the radar)?

  • @JeffLMB
    @JeffLMB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Shattered piston: "oh no..."
    Destroyed crank bolt: "oh no!"
    Straight water in the oil pan: "OH NO!!!"
    damn, this poor viper engine got the crap kicked out of it

    • @DragonZer0
      @DragonZer0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      "OH YEAH!!!"

    • @ssFaxes
      @ssFaxes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Undamaged rod: "Anyway"

  • @Stylemaster911
    @Stylemaster911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The dry humor on this channel is just amazing. I think FCA/Stellantis should consider their next 3.0 Eco Diesel to be made out of just wrist pins, would be much more reliable. They can pay me royalties for that idea later.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda hard to put rings on a pin.

  • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
    @trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    i made the cylinder liners for these viper engines (linamar machining in Guelph,ontario)they are separate from the block (pressed in and made of powdered metal)
    .it can be removed ( machined out )and replaced as long as the block isn't windowed.(i couldn't tell) i would definitely look into it.
    from the video perspective it definitely looks saveable but i cant see close enough

    • @stephencarter1442
      @stephencarter1442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ditto! it can be saved looks like a truck motor to me.

    • @KAPANGAAAMASTER
      @KAPANGAAAMASTER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, he won't "get crazy" and fix it... maybe he can use it as a coffee table... lol

    • @infinityplayz-i9m
      @infinityplayz-i9m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn, I've seen some molested shit working in a salvage yard but that jewel is top notch!

    • @kennethhacker1341
      @kennethhacker1341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's what I said... sleeve it.

    • @ivojara
      @ivojara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, I live i chile and we sleeve blocks all the time, sometimes we patch holes in them ;)

  • @waynedavis7245
    @waynedavis7245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The reason why the engine was put together with standard bolts was that Chrysler used the 360cid engine as the base of the V10 engine. It was done to cut down development costs. So basically it's a 360 with 2 cylinders added. It was pretty smart at the time.

  • @joer8854
    @joer8854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP V10. You were a great engine once. Someone was very proud to assemble that engine. It deserved better.

  • @PorscheRacer14
    @PorscheRacer14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Those early years of cylinder deactivation. Everyone wanted to get it on it but it was an expensive option. At least this owner got it for free!

    • @JB-ej8zy
      @JB-ej8zy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @zicnov4794
      @zicnov4794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll have to remember that one

    • @TrimeshSZ
      @TrimeshSZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They just forgot to tell the engineer designing the system that they wanted reversible cylinder deactivation.

  • @paulsz6194
    @paulsz6194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crank bolt heads can shear off if they are over torqued. Had a friend do that to his 3.0L Mitsubishi V6 motor many years ago. He was drilling & tapped that bolt over a few days...went through three new drill bits. He learnt his less the hard way. Only torque to spec. Never over-torque!

  • @Joshuabryabt-gf6sc
    @Joshuabryabt-gf6sc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    You : "oh turns out to be metal"
    Me: "totally amazing"
    Dude I freaking love your videos man, comedy is on point!

  • @honkie247
    @honkie247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Always oil the threads on a puller before use. Greatly reduces the force needed to remove the part and cuts wear on the puller.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The force required for the part to slide off would be the same, whether the threads of the puller are oiled or not. I've never oiled my puller in 25 years, and never had an issue.

    • @honkie247
      @honkie247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@davelowets The force generated by the parts sliding apart would be the same, but the friction in the threaded puller would add less to the total force needed to remove the parts if the threads were oiled.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@honkie247 The only force that would change is the force needed by your arm, and not by that much.

    • @owaind-g678
      @owaind-g678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davelowets The torque required is reduced by around 30% with oiled threads.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@owaind-g678 I ALWAYS use Moly grease on a fastener that needs to be torqued to a specific number. For rod bolts in an engine, I use a stretch guage. For a puller, never used any lube, and never had any issues getting whatever it was I was pulling, off. I like my tools and box clean. You are free to do what you like. I'm simply stating that I've never lubed my pullers, and never had a situation where I couldn't easily turn it, and remove the component.

  • @SB-vb8ch
    @SB-vb8ch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The crank bolt situation gives a good insight into where the other issues came from.

  • @antonylaws6554
    @antonylaws6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm rubbish at this sort of thing, but my dad was good at it. This reminds me of me watching my dad keeping his Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV running with me watching (and failing to understand much of what he was doing). Thanks mate... this kind of stuff reminds me of Sunday afternoons when I was a kid.

  • @MattExzy
    @MattExzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Does anyone remember that weird sci-fi series in the 90s, called Viper. The Viper in that could heal itself... cool show to me as a kid. Alas, I see now they can't heal themselves.

    • @hydrocarbon82
      @hydrocarbon82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, I had the Tyco slot car version! I recall the little UAV/drone thing was awesome, and now it's something a kid can buy on Amazon with chore money.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hydrocarbon82 Aww sweet! I remember we got it here in Australia, it was on before Seaquest or something. Good times.

    • @GeneralBadLuck
      @GeneralBadLuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MattExzy right in the nostalgia feels mannn

    • @Onwaxwings
      @Onwaxwings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo i remember that show and the arcade game!! The arcade game was a joke

    • @b.t.6345
      @b.t.6345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was flaming red and it turned grey when it would transform. Fucking nostalgia man

  • @collinkeethler5808
    @collinkeethler5808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. I tore down my viper engine at 50000 miles (which is high for these motors) and it looked brand new. The fact this engine is so dirty inside and out makes me wonder how many miles were on it... Very interesting video Eric. Great job as always

    • @ImnotgoingSideways
      @ImnotgoingSideways 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      180K on mine (Ram SRT) and it looks nowhere near as bad. Not brand new for sure. I could have probably been better with my oil change frequency. But still smooth running (as smooth as that firing order can get) and all of the valve cover paint intact.

    • @moshewakatelutiw6233
      @moshewakatelutiw6233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably was racing it with 130k and a failed head gasket

  • @TheReb96
    @TheReb96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish I could take stuff apart like this every day and do it as a living. It’s always fun finding out what happened to stuff or just to see how the engine was maintained.

  • @donquijote6030
    @donquijote6030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just found your channel and have been binge watching for the last few days. It is great to learn bit by bit from your knowledge. It is also great to see what the rods, lifters, rocker arms, valves, pistons, bores, etc look like in different scenarios. Thanks for uploading.

    • @simonomisimonomis
      @simonomisimonomis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i also found this channel a few days ago and damn... awesome content

  • @TheGriff77
    @TheGriff77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The "take a seat" comment had me laughing pretty hard.

  • @Oddman1980
    @Oddman1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    About SAE sockets: I had a truck that had the annoying feature of some parts being metric, and some parts being SAE. It wasn't a rebuilt wreck, it came like that from the factory.

  • @ericthimot
    @ericthimot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I enjoy the manner you present: calm with humor thrown in. A pleasure every time i watch you.

  • @Peenurpool
    @Peenurpool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    .... “The Worst Part of Working on Something, Is When Someone Already Has.”.......
    ..... Statements like this one is one of the reasons I love this channel 👍.... I also value the technical explanation of what some would call damage.... Like the “piston delete “ and the “valve delete “ statements that are actually pulled from existing OEM engines and the way they operate.... 👍👍... Dude I wish I could work with someone like you, because not only would work be a blast, but I can see a lot getting done and time flying by.... I swear we must have had the same shop teacher back in the day 😬👍

  • @PSWii360onBaSS
    @PSWii360onBaSS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Am I the only on that is completely enamored by just how simple this engine is? I could only wish a Nissan VQ was this simple.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      funny how brilliant (and insanely,brutally powerful) a single cam in block ,pushrod engine can be.....see the modern LS for reference

    • @PSWii360onBaSS
      @PSWii360onBaSS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trillrifaxegrindor4411 oh I completely understand. Just a lover of a Nissan 6 cylinder love the sound of them. But if you wanna get real simple, the Ford flat head.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PSWii360onBaSS A Jeep Hurricane 134 makes the Ford Flathead look like an intricate puzzle.

    • @randymagnum143
      @randymagnum143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PSWii360onBaSS not really, plus running the exhaust all the way from the valley to the outside of the v, *through the block* .....isn't a good way to cool down an engine that already had inherent cooling problems.
      And that's why ardun got in the business of making hemi head conversions for them. A effort to get them to last in heavy trucks.

  • @jasona5806
    @jasona5806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worked on the Gen 4 production.. Hope my paint held up better than that..

  • @jeffjones3287
    @jeffjones3287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    love the channel and the format. always fun seeing what causes engines to end up cores

    • @algrayson8965
      @algrayson8965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be a core is supposed to mean that it is reconditionable, not scrap.

  • @rossbryan6102
    @rossbryan6102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    REALLY ENJOY THE TEARDOWNS!
    AS A LIFELONG MECHANIC I ALSO FOUND THE NEED TO ANALYZE THE FAILURE, AND NOT JUST CHANGE THE PART!!
    SAVES A LOTTA WORK AND COMEBACKS!
    I GAINED A REPUTATION IN ALL OF THIS WORKING ON LOCOMOTIVE
    ENGINES!
    KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!👍👍

    • @JordonBeal
      @JordonBeal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF, BRO. WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE.

  • @Tarkov.
    @Tarkov. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    This is gonna be a really cool coffee table.

    • @paulsz6194
      @paulsz6194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Inspired by Top Gears one?.

    • @m1stertwo
      @m1stertwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they always gotta be 10-12 cyl blocks and this is perfect way another legend on dodge’s list of many

  • @krazykyfan
    @krazykyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pulls valve cover off side with missing head gasket and head bolts and says sarcastically...
    *" Well I kinda guessed this head had been off because well someone had to get the head gasket outta there somehow. We don't need those. It's already got one on the other side - why do you need two for?"*

  • @davep1021
    @davep1021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Crazy hack job with that crank pulley bolt situation! Thanks for the great video

  • @humantwist-offcap9514
    @humantwist-offcap9514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This actually made me really sad. I haven’t seen an engine so thoroughly destroyed and it’s worse to see it on an engine I really like. I’ll never understand how someone lets their equipment and machinery get violated like this

  • @MrWoodyBalto
    @MrWoodyBalto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Here's a cool coffee table idea. Take one of your slightly used low mileage gems that has a window or 2 punched out and obliterates pistons and do your best to put the pistons back together with JB Weld and other low value parts to assemble a non stuck short block (with windows).

    • @MrThunderCunt
      @MrThunderCunt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Put a crank or something on the balancer to turn it over. That would be cool

    • @michaelhensley7974
      @michaelhensley7974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and maybe attach the crank to the top of the table so you can turn the engine over by turning the table

    • @michaelworden9265
      @michaelworden9265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That block might make for a good meat smoker Eric... 😜😜😜

    • @timothythomas1737
      @timothythomas1737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @The Bike Bodger slant 5. Lol

  • @Rollin8.0
    @Rollin8.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You might get money for the block from an owner that is planning on building a big power TT Viper, they put darton sleeves in them so the damaged bores aren't an issue. Crank bolt hole will clean up fine too.

    • @davidkina5627
      @davidkina5627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Believe it or not the valve seat land in the head can be welded & machined to accept a new valve seat & remachined as long as he head isn't cracked & the guide area isn't toast as well.
      Depends on the resources & money one wants to spend.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't know Darton made Viper sleeves, but I have seen photos of re-sleeved Viper blocks.

  • @mitchhughes6218
    @mitchhughes6218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I owned a 2001 Honda S2000, it would be cool if you could find an f20 motor out of something. Keep up the awesome videos!!!

    • @robrayne9144
      @robrayne9144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The f20 has polished cylinder liners. Its a very interesting tech if u look into it, but its prone to eating oil rings and burning tones oil

    • @diablocls55
      @diablocls55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My brother blew up the engine in his 2006 S2000 a few months ago… he money shifted so it wasn’t the cars fault. He tore the engine apart and it was very interesting to see what was found in the oil pan 🤣

    • @life_of_riley88
      @life_of_riley88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know a guy with a viper v10 in his s2000. . .f20 be damned.

    • @zacharyclarke4240
      @zacharyclarke4240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the f20c only came in the s2000 and the f20s in the 90s accord and prelude aren't the same engine

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some later versions of the S2000 had an F22 series engines, but for some reason, they didn't call the car an S2200.

  • @nickmudd
    @nickmudd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Jokes on the internet: "Haha they made it a V9 engine"
    Volkswagen Engineer: "Write that down"

    • @NYRNJD1987
      @NYRNJD1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was gonna say the same lol or a v9.3 at least

  • @jackc244
    @jackc244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think that 0W-0 oil was to blame for all this. Those V9 engines are badass

  • @bertbertmann5823
    @bertbertmann5823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could‘ve sworn this engine was from a 90‘s military HMMV, because i am in shock & awe

  • @islandaerial3414
    @islandaerial3414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Come for an engine teardown and get a comedy routine as a bonus!

    • @BetterCallGatto
      @BetterCallGatto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's What u get when u Mix adam Sandler and a Mechanic 😂

  • @wadeguidry6675
    @wadeguidry6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your constant sarcasm is worth watching. I could do a Chris Hanson: take a seat and watch you tear down engines all day long.

  • @jaronshelton4124
    @jaronshelton4124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a fellow Missourian, Your midwestern sarcasm resonates with me.

    • @vogeljohn95
      @vogeljohn95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice im from mid mo as well

  • @HERRESHOFFGSD
    @HERRESHOFFGSD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    28:45 is what I came here to see. Thanks for sharing and keep the good work going.

  • @kyferez1
    @kyferez1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love seeing the details of these teardowns. I wish I had grown up knowing engines, but I've learned o work on bike engines!

  • @rockerneck
    @rockerneck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of our customers has a boat with two of these engines. It’s really cool to be able to see one torn down.

  • @allenl9031
    @allenl9031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Connecting Rod, "I am Ironman!" Piston, "See you later, I'm outta here."

    • @ExaltedDuck
      @ExaltedDuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, Ironman's planned rivalry with The Aluminum Pounder never did pan out to much... They probably should have consulted with a metallurgist.

  • @christophermarshall5765
    @christophermarshall5765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good machine shop can repair the cam & crank. I used to outsource blocks to a company who step-lined them. What they did is remove the entire damaged cylinder to the water jacket, then they machined a 3mm step into the top of the block, & inserted a liner to the original bore size, providing the rest of the cylinders were within specs. If not, the rest of the cylinders were bored to oversize, & the required size sleeve/liner was fitted to suit. Pull down a Mercedes M117-986 engine. These are the 4.52 litre OHC V8.

  • @HeavyTanker1945
    @HeavyTanker1945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    These earlyish Viper motors are known for Head Gasket issues. Say that is exactly what happened here.

  • @rustymotor
    @rustymotor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nice video, interesting to watch the engine teardown of the Dodge V10. They look like a fairly solid basic engine, not too complicated. Hope you get your money back, certainly made for a cool video. Cheers from central Australia!

    • @timothythomas1737
      @timothythomas1737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Viper v10. Pickup v10s were a different breed unless it was a viper truck or srt 10.

  • @thegaragehub
    @thegaragehub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! We got a slow mo, a debrisss and that sweet lubricant. That crank bolt though, mint.

  • @FishinPhreak
    @FishinPhreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing was more enjoyable than the high-speed bolt removals. Pew! Pew! Pew!

  • @moodberry
    @moodberry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What I would have liked to hear is the backstory about the engine itself. How did it come to you as just an engine? Most of the time, engines come with cars, but especially a Viper. The valve covers looked like they have been sitting in the elements for years without a car. the Viper is one of my favorite cars, and I just can't imagine anyone doing this to a Viper.

  • @iamgriff
    @iamgriff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss the Conner Assembly Plant. I used to cruise behind the Belmont shopping center on 8 mile. All the way to the back by the theater. In the summer they would have the garage doors open, you would see the Viper's being hand assembled.

  • @indyrock8148
    @indyrock8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is so totally rebuildable.
    Ok so some machining and new parts are required. But seriously it's not totally junk.
    I'm sure there's a market for reman viper engines.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆 Youd have more into fixing the block, than it would be to buy a good one. That shit is GARBAGE.

    • @indyrock8148
      @indyrock8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davelowets a new cylinder sleeve and bore hone job is pretty cheap

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@indyrock8148 So is a good used block.. Why fuck with garbage?

  • @nolongeramused8135
    @nolongeramused8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I hear crunchy stuff" reminds me of one of my favorite repair maxims: If it jams, force it. If it breaks it needed fixing anyway.

    • @NemoConsequentae
      @NemoConsequentae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "If you can't fix it with a hammer... you've got an electrical problem."

  • @sr-71blackbird92
    @sr-71blackbird92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Who ever worked on that motor needs to throw his tools in a river...a real butcher boy!

    • @Yankee7000
      @Yankee7000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh yeah: go right ahead and torture the river. What did the river did to you eh?

    • @nickma71
      @nickma71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This engine smells of nitrous injection. All the parts to the system were removed. Then the junk core was sold.

  • @MidShipCivic
    @MidShipCivic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That came from a SRT-10 Ram because of the manifolds on it, the vipers exhaust manifold is tubular and dumps at the center.

  • @HappyHands.
    @HappyHands. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Im always amazed when manufactures decide to make cast aluminum oil pans. they aren't any lighter than pressed aluminum or even pressed steel and they are way more prone to getting irreparably damaged.

    • @craigquann
      @craigquann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Structural. Helps stiffen the block.

    • @BeamerTheFox
      @BeamerTheFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@craigquann yea with the amount of crank weight lol it needs all the strength it can get

    • @Yautah
      @Yautah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      planned obsolescence.

    • @algrayson8965
      @algrayson8965 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have really nice fins…if they have fins. No point in a cast aluminum pan if it isn't finned.
      I had a couple of cars that had barrel crankcases. The main bearing caps were integral with the lower blocks. Nevertheless they had cast aluminum pans with really pretty fins.

    • @randymagnum143
      @randymagnum143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They will remove a lot of heat from the oil, also.

  • @johnsmith-mz9hh
    @johnsmith-mz9hh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He has a very chill attitude considering the situation.
    Usually buying a lemon engine involves alot of cursing

  • @motumoyu4566
    @motumoyu4566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the peeps you bought this from had it setting outside. and pieced it together so they could sell it to you for more money than its worth

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon4846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pan was holding H2OIL. Thank you for another fine tear-down video.

  • @stevefriswell5422
    @stevefriswell5422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    It takes skill and perseverance to be as bad as whoever “worked “on that engine.

    • @yordanky76
      @yordanky76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Nobody works on that engine, they just "prepare" the engine for a fast sale event...🤪🤪

    • @stevefriswell5422
      @stevefriswell5422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yordanky76 - true, very true.

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was going to say this. I'm very impressed by the determination it took to do that much wrong.

    • @jasonaldenhaley1
      @jasonaldenhaley1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed....MANY YEARS of certified motherfuckery. Likely can get a new C8 with the tears of all whom have been duped by a ½ wasted mofo hammerin the hippy lettuce.

    • @thatguyontheright1
      @thatguyontheright1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mah bad.

  • @downlowgo_401
    @downlowgo_401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always watch videos like this at 2x. You’ll never go back

  • @josephbugaj8149
    @josephbugaj8149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The block would actually make a good coffee table

    • @BruceLee-xn3nn
      @BruceLee-xn3nn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I bought a cracked block viper engine just for that reason.

    • @unclejoe6811
      @unclejoe6811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BruceLee-xn3nn you could have just bought a dodge V10 truck engine as the blocks are the same ...

    • @L35inColorado
      @L35inColorado 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@unclejoe6811 I think the typical Dodge V10 blocks are cast iron, except for the SRT, and that Viper blocks are aluminum.

    • @michaelscott-joynt3215
      @michaelscott-joynt3215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are generally ugly and you just gave yourself something incredibly heavy and awkward that won't want to move.

    • @josephbugaj8149
      @josephbugaj8149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelscott-joynt3215 Yet there are some that do want a unique piece of furniture. I myself took the backseat out of a late 80s Chrysler New Yorker, and am turning that into a couch.

  • @kyleg496
    @kyleg496 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 1994 Viper and I was surprised how easy the V-10 was to work on. Plugs and wires where so simple and easily accessed, for such a powerful car its easier to work on than most american junkers on the market.

    • @12345.......
      @12345....... 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The coils weren't under the intake like on this engine?

  • @lm-usmc
    @lm-usmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good to see Adam Sandler staying busy in between movies. Man, I could tear down engines for a living. I just can't put them back together.

  • @BoostedSpeedDemon
    @BoostedSpeedDemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally other than that piston, rod, and valve, oh and that one pushrod, everything else is salvageable. It is an open deck sleeved block. If it punched through the sleeve and through the block behind it, you can easily weld a patch in the block and put new sleeves in it. And a machine shop can easily drill out the rest of that Bolt, and then rethread for a larger size, weld up and recut the threads, or some kind of strong Helicoil.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, a good used block would be cheaper and stronger. Put a supercharger on that repaired crank, and you'd probably snap the snout off of it. That shit is scrap.

  • @Ojref1
    @Ojref1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    They do say 'dodge' clearly on the product, so at least they come with a warning.

    • @FordsRule351
      @FordsRule351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should have Dodged that purchase.

    • @NemoConsequentae
      @NemoConsequentae 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was a warning to pedestrians & other cars?

  • @chrisej5987
    @chrisej5987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That V10 is from a Ram. Thermostat housing and exhaust manifolds and oil pan tell me that. Given it's an 8.3 V10 and came with a manual trans that would make it the earlier SRT-10 Ram.

  • @robt3305
    @robt3305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cam and lifter location on the Viper motor reminds me a lot of the design of the gen3 hemi, which has severe cam and lifter issues due to the lifters riding nearly horizontal in the block limiting oiling of the rollers.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm. My understanding is that the Viper has basically the same cam location as the 318/360 LA/Magnum, engines not prone to lifter problems.

  • @daverunner3397
    @daverunner3397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dodge V10's tend to eat themselves.....especially with poor maintenance. Great Vid bro.

    • @daverunner3397
      @daverunner3397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adjustable piston??

    • @budlanctot3060
      @budlanctot3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got 210k miles on mine. Only problem I've had was a rodent chewing the wires off of an injector.

    • @randymagnum143
      @randymagnum143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The iron ones are stone axe reliable.

  • @Lumby1
    @Lumby1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos. It's fascinating watching you dismantle these wrecked engines. Thanks for your efforts.

  • @nicwilson89
    @nicwilson89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    'You've already got one on the other side, what do you need two (headgaskets) for anyways?'
    Ahahahaha, take a sub, sir

  • @Rodknockacres
    @Rodknockacres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “That sounds crunchy, let’s keep going” is probably my favorite line in the video. I’d say that cylinder has low compression

  • @williamdawson3353
    @williamdawson3353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Glad you didn't take a loss but shame on the grubs that sold it as a bad cylinder they had to know there was more wrong. IMHO.

  • @Che9009
    @Che9009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    always good to make written contracts specifically for scenarios like this to get your money back or a portion of it.

  • @QueensGTO_Viper
    @QueensGTO_Viper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    love these engines - great vid!

  • @garypeatling7927
    @garypeatling7927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a well designed block simple even side bolted mains

  • @lewisbiggs5977
    @lewisbiggs5977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sheer audacity of that crank boit hack is kind of impressive. Like you said, I'd consider it on a junk Corolla but not a goddamn Viper engine

  • @balcorn9211
    @balcorn9211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The worst part about working on something is when someone else has."
    TOO TRUE

  • @Mr.Magpie
    @Mr.Magpie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see a 2.0 tdi vw engine

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would that be the 2.0 PD TDI in the 2005 and 2006 Passat, or the 2.0 CRD TDI found in later VW models?
      He might be able to find a 2.0 PD TDI worth his time, many people gave up on their B5.5 Passat because the engine needed a new cam, cam buckets, and balance shaft module.

    • @Mr.Magpie
      @Mr.Magpie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skylinefever I wanna see the newer common rail diesels, something like a CJAA

  • @KodiakWoodchuck
    @KodiakWoodchuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sped up air impact sounds like some kind of scifi laser... Awesome.

  • @MAGGOT_VOMIT
    @MAGGOT_VOMIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That crank should be fine and can be repaired with the hole drilled, filled and re-centered. No biggie, that bolt is just a retainer for the HB.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Until you decide to put a supercharger on it, and then break the crank snout off. I'd SCRAP it.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MAGGOT_VOMIT 🙄Who's dumb? After you've drilled out, welded up, and retapped the crank, it WILL be weaker than an undamaged crank. In a supercharger application it's not the bolt that breaks, it's the entire crank snout that ends up breaking off. One would NEVER want to use a damaged crank in a supercharger motor. Wise up son, before you call someone with more intelligence and more experience than you "Stupid". 🤦🏻

    • @MAGGOT_VOMIT
      @MAGGOT_VOMIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davelowets Filling and Drilling correctly would never cause that to happen, Junior. Maybe one day you'll become old enough to see enough of them repaired correctly at a REAL machine-shop, that NEVER break off at the so-called "snout", JUNIOR!!
      What an amateur!! 😆😂🤣

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MAGGOT_VOMIT Bullshit. An undamaged one will ALWAYS be stronger than a repaired one. Obviously you have no experience with crank driven superchargers, or else you'd know better. A "real machine shop" wouldn't attempt to repair a crank with that kind of damage in a supercharger motor either. If it's a "real" shop, they would know better also. I can totally see some hack try to repair it though..

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MAGGOT_VOMIT Here's some more free, helpful, advice... Quit thumbing your own comments, it makes one look desperate for approval.

  • @cavscout62
    @cavscout62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man it would be SO SWEET if everything went back to SAE fasteners!🤣

  • @ks_1111
    @ks_1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That block could be saved with a sleeve, may not be a streetable engine. But, i'm sure if you cemented the cooling passages in the block, and stuffed a sleeve in there, it would be a good race block

    • @ARUSApacecarHAMPTON
      @ARUSApacecarHAMPTON 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a bad idea until you build the engine to last 100 laps and it expires on lap 99. I really like the idea but not with my luck.

    • @christianmeeks4430
      @christianmeeks4430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as none of the aluminum casting is damaged the block is 100% salvageable with new cylinder sleeves.

    • @tihspidtherekciltilc5469
      @tihspidtherekciltilc5469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@christianmeeks4430 Give it to Alan Millyard and he'll make it a V-12 and it'll look like it's factory all with a hacksaw and some fresh biscuits.

    • @slasher9883
      @slasher9883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tihspidtherekciltilc5469 And a nice cup of tea.

  • @sydecarnutz972
    @sydecarnutz972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an entertaining way to enjoy a cuppa coffee in the morning. Thanks for sharing!

  • @allys537
    @allys537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    *seller takes the money*
    Seller : "thanks, hey... your ass quivering"?
    you: "no, why"?
    Seller: "cause you just got screwed"
    *seller runs off with the money and uses it to ruin another engine*

  • @Dacokebottle1208
    @Dacokebottle1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Him pulling the bolts off the exhaust manfold sounds really good

  • @anomamos9095
    @anomamos9095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    None of the plugs could be from that engine. It’s possible that they just grabbed crap out of the trash to fill up the holes to keep the gremlins from escaping.

  • @Trenscendent
    @Trenscendent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please do a VM motori 2.8 LWN diesel engine teardown? Found in the Chevrolet and Holden Colorado.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure if those made it to the USA. However, I think the Jeep Liberty got a verion of it in the USA from 2004 to 2006.

    • @Trenscendent
      @Trenscendent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skylinefever uh yes they did the Chevrolet Colorado has em aka 2.8 Duramax...

  • @pauld2672
    @pauld2672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sleeve the block, get somebody who knows what they are doing with a lathe to sort the crank snout, replace the valve seat and that's all fixed then.

    • @cj09beira
      @cj09beira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      was going to say the same, the damage overall seems pretty lite considering a piston went to pieces,
      head should be salvageable as well, with a decking and new valve guides and seals

    • @guerrillaradio9953
      @guerrillaradio9953 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. Fixed far worse working on aftermarket drag bits. Gimme that head, a couple carbides, a TIG welder, and 2 hours. I'll have the crack ground out, filled, and reshaped to match the others. Why are people so afraid to sleeve a block, too? I guess if you take it to an idiot, but then, you could just buy engines from the numbnuts who sold him this one.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guerrillaradio9953 Because it would cost more to fix the block, than it would to buy a good used one. I've seen good GTR blocks go for $2500. And it's not wounded to start with.

  • @TODR34M
    @TODR34M 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate your positive attitude, great video and I don't even wrench myself...

  • @grumpyareus
    @grumpyareus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what about the Triton v10 from ford

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like fun, because some of them had the notorious 3 valve design. However, since those didn't have the VVT system that was annoying on the V8 variant, maybe they weren't so bad...
      Except for those stupid spark plugs.

  • @SgtGun82nd
    @SgtGun82nd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the classic pew pew at the end of the cylinder head bolt removal 👌

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh good. 12 baskets in a case.
    And clearly after being treated the way it was, it decided to end its own life to escape the suffering.

  • @maryannmoran-smyth3453
    @maryannmoran-smyth3453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The block could be sleeved and pressure tested and as for the head if it’s worth it I change the valve seats what is better material seats and installation techniques so that they don’t fail

  • @drishy94303
    @drishy94303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Everything is off the table" **clearly has engine sitting on the table** I LOL'd