We are extremely lucky to be able to listen to someone as experienced as victor Martinez talking about gears . This guy knows exactly what he’s taking about it
Fr though i was thinking about trying tren 6 years ago i weighed like 150 pounds at 6 feet tall but just switched up my diet to more meats and worked out harder i now weigh in at 198
Anybody that knows about trend, information should I use it at 45 years old if I'm never used steroids at all. I just recently did a small one milligram for 3 weeks of testosterone ethanate please send info
Vic! Is a humble champ I’ve had the amazing opportunity to interact with him in competition mode n seminar stage and an amazing human being Vic “ Mexicali” Saludos brother
Have always been a huge fan of Victor's, obviously he should have won the 2007 Mr O. That said I still think he has one of the best combinations of size and Aesthetics to ever be on a bodybuilding stage. Extremely underrated when people talk about best physiques of all time in my opinion.
Build naturally. If that's all you got.... that's all you got. It's just not worth it, because there will be a time you have to make the payment. And believe it. Time moves fast.
Well said. Honestly, hit 40+ and you don't give a flying fk about looking big in front of a mirror, you care about looking good, feeling good, in front of your family and friends. You care about longevity and life span. It's just not worth it. Challenge yourself to be the best you can naturally.
@@megmucklebones7538 100% agree. Been a natty my whole life. Never had any severe health issues whatsoever and I rose to the top at the age of 22, outworking everyone in my path. Now at 38, I just try to maintain a healthy muscular physique.
Bostin passed at 29 or 30 were the same age. He was good dude rich said something about all IGF-1 on the market being fake and Bostin took it as offense due to Him saying Rich ordered 20 bottles of his IGF-1 and telling him it felt like real stuff. It's all old so who knows if that was really why tho. But Bostin was a good dude. This was a good podcast too bro for sure.
"Once the damage is done" what a great statement I wish my younger self paid attention to, I never competed or made a dime from using steriods used it just to look good (which I already did) and me, my liver and testicles paid the price, now I'm older I have to do TRT which is a pain in the ass and very expensive, wish I could go back and tell my younger self "it's not worth it"
Why is trt very expensive? It costs me like 1500 a year for labs and medication. Not expensive at all. Find a better provider if you getting fleeced for too much money just for T.
Vic is saying what I’ve been telling these kids for years about the difference between pharmaceutical gear vs underground lab gear . He’s 💯 percent spot on!
There are plenty of UGL that have excellent quality gear. many of the Chinese suppliers are the exact same ones who supply Big Pharma. There are only so many sources for raw product. There are quite a few legit Chinese Pharma suppliers that operate a UG supply as a separate division to their above board operations!
Lol, Vic is spot on about Anadrol. It's the shit pre workout. I love it it's my fav PED. Piana loved it with Tren but that's risky AF as both can boost progesterone. My FAV preworkout ever, 6000 mg L Citrulline , 200 mg caffeine tab, 50 mg Ephedra, 25 mg Anadrol. Pumps so intense I couldn't take of my shirt for ten minutes as my arms were too pumped😅
Great discussion...Idea for topic...As we get older we need additional nutritional supplements to maintain health....How about discussing things like digestive enzymes, prebiotics with probiotics for gut health and other supplements to keep us healthy......I would love to hear Vic's supplement line up... Great show...💯💪
halotestin was available as a pharmaceutical drug for years but it was removed from the market because more effective drugs exist look up fluoxymesterone and you will see it was sold by large pharma companies
I’m glad you touched on that at the 32minute mark about most coaches looking like crap. It’s true. Look at Chad Nichols and Hany Rambod. These are not impressive looking guys but they’re some of the best bodybuilding coaches out there. Look at most basketball coaches, are they 6 foot eight? No they’re usually short fat old guys. But they know how to coach. I see it all the time in the gym, “oh, this guy tried to give me advice, but I’m bigger than him so I won’t listen”
@@presidentcomacho3816 lol his clothing cracks me up 😂 also when he does podcasts he’s been wearing the same cheap broken headphones that literally look like they’re from 1999. Super smart guy though!!
It’s sad that anyone takes any gear really. We kid ourselves that we will be ok. I have seen and heard so much shit happen to people. Stay natural and be happy
Clenbuterol is asthma medication made for equine use (horses) , it can and will cause rapid heart beat, increase in body temperature, and if abused will absolutely cause heart attack, stroke, or both at the same time. If used in small safe doses and two days on one day off for no longer than 3 to 4 weeks, it will both tone muscle tissue, and decrease subcutaneous body fat for the cut look.
Not bad, ive done similar. Keep test low to cover the minimum and make the base of the cycle boldenon with little deca on top you wont need much i think
Anabolic steroids was NEVER mentioned during my 14yrs of school (minus biochem briefly). Sure Testosterone, insulin etc but just what’s needed medically.
They’re are many other drugs that pros take that aren’t even mentioned here. When you take moderate doses gh you don’t need as much anabolics. Myostatin inhibitors, sarms and increlex as well as long acting insulin are not mentioned. Steroids are old school tbh in the realm of chemical enhancement.
Good talk but bro what I don’t like is that vlad has been doing this shit for years now and has talked about steroids multiple times and still act like he don’t know what her talking about like at this point bro it’s annoying
Tren: the drug you take a lot if you know a little, or take a little if you know a lot. Guys talk about a “low dose” tren cycle at 300mg/wk. “I only took 50 mg/day” they say. You can get a ton out of the drug at 100 mg a WEEK.
💯 man. I’m dosing 100 hundred milligrams a week right now along with about 350mg of sustanon a week and the strength is phenomenal. I’ve run 750 mg of test and about 350 mg of Tren a week, stacked with masteron also And saw rather similar results. The only side effect I have is the night sweats right now.
Delighted to see Phil Heath appear on Generation Iron. Looks like he's maintaining his form. Hope to see him one more time on stage. Who knows, maybe #8??
Clen can be used without interruption or cycling by taking ketotifen along with it and that will prevent the down regulation of the receptors. Taken at a reasonable dose clen is not the least bit dangerous!
Man i reeeally appreciate this talk, i was literally gonna get some clenbuteral from some dude i know, the guy was lab making it but for some reason he wasnt able to get it & sent me my money back, just stating it as the 2nd most dangerous one... if anyone has stories to share w/ me about clen im all ears
Honestly that stuff sets your whole insides on fire and it's not worth it. If you have to go the steroid route tho just use a little anavar, good luck!
first-they aren't "drugs" they are hormones.... understand that before anything. and its only considered dangerous because its extremely powerful. its 500/500 o the AAS scale when compared to test which is 100/100.... its the most abused which is why most men cycle this completely wrong! for the "lower end spectrum" it depends on the purpose and what you want out of the cycle.... But if you are new to the AAS WORLD, stick to test base, and you can add primo, Tbol, NPP & proviron, with an AI... simple as that!
I made my best ever gains on tren, I also lost my marriage and kids, I found it impossible to stay loyal on that stuff, I became a different guy on that stuff, I absolutely loved it at the time, now years later, I have no muscle, bad health and live on my own.
Tren by far will make you completely insane and it doesn’t matter where you are and what you’re doing!! Guaranteed if you are going to ever do it take very small amounts because it’s so so hard on your mental health and your physical health.
this is bullshit tren is absolutely bad for you regardless of dose. only someone who has no clue about steroids would make such an asinine claim. 500mg is a very high dose of tren and virtually nobody needs 500mg a week. when it was available as a pharmaceutical a therapeutic dose was 50mg per week.
@Edwin Ward tren is suppressive but doesn't doesn't trigger estrogen like testosterone does. That's one reason it's used for cutting. It can be used without test but not the best idea. Using tren add 250mg test a week and have AI( Arimadex or Aromasin) for the test and maybe pramiprexol for the Tren. Tren is not for beginners. After a cycle PCT is a MUST> Clomid and nolvadex and possibly HCG with those.
@russellmuscle7434 Depending on the studies you look at, tren has been shown to convert via aromatase and 5 alpha reductase. Tren does not convert into progesterone. It has a high affinity to bind to the progesterone receptor. Vitamin B6 is used to lower prolactin, b6 has been shown to raise progesterone levels and lower estrogen to help with pms. BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU READ COMMENTS RECOMENDING YOU TAKE DRUGS FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY DO. TREN IS NOT SAFE REGARDLESS. STEROIDS ARE NOT SAFE, IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THEM DO PROPER RESEARCH AND REALIZE WHEN ITS TIME TO CASH THE CHECK YOU WROTE YEARS BEFORE, IT WAS YOUR DECISION.
Disclaimer: Not medical advice. Stick to the basics bro. Add one compound at a time to see how you react. Always start with just testosterone 200mg a week. See how you handle the sides. Find out If you're sensitive to estrogen conversion or prolactin, progesterone etc. If you're okay after a month to 6 weeks, you can increase to 250mg. Etc.. You should really find a more knowledgeable and reputable mentor. You shouldn't just play with your biochemistry nonchalantly. Don't just brush aside the possible lifelong ramifications of hormone modification.
Tren can be used in lower doses. You can lower your test and keep tren low. Maybe talk about doses because you get less side effects with lower doses and you can still get results.
What's more impressive than the effects of roids is the effect of post roid shrinkage. I've seen Pro BB's literary melt in front of me, we're talking from hero to zero in weeks. The stuff is so potent they can become huge again in almost the same time.
Not true I had the most potent Tren ever it gave me no cough but my friend would cough til he passes out depends on person. It will give you a metal taste in the mouth sometimes that’s how you know it’s real
Great question. A lot covered on that topic on our research here generationiron.com/steroids-bodybuilding/ and we also cover a great deal of these topics with Dr O’Connor and Doctor T
This has become the best podcast in the fitness industry. Love the content!!
Thank you
Buddy, NOBODY keeps it as real as Victor Maritnez, the realist Dominican from New York.
We are extremely lucky to be able to listen to someone as experienced as victor Martinez talking about gears . This guy knows exactly what he’s taking about it
Why did Ronnie Coleman had his problems ?
Apart from the fact that he thinks tren was developed for making beach bodies
@@African_snowking then you should educate him booboo
@@samm8150 i do educate all those under my supervision
@@duarte8546he lifted insanely heavy for a very long time
Massive props to Vic for being so real abt the cons of PEDs Hope so many young kids will find this real warning
Fr though i was thinking about trying tren 6 years ago i weighed like 150 pounds at 6 feet tall but just switched up my diet to more meats and worked out harder i now weigh in at 198
@@ryanmcmuffi6137 Good for you but if you think that comparing that to the effects of Tren is an appropriate/correct analogy you are fooling yourself!
@@bigcconservativeguy2534 speaking from experience lol
Anybody that knows about trend, information should I use it at 45 years old if I'm never used steroids at all. I just recently did a small one milligram for 3 weeks of testosterone ethanate please send info
Vic! Is a humble champ I’ve had the amazing opportunity to interact with him in competition mode n seminar stage and an amazing human being Vic “ Mexicali” Saludos brother
Thanks, guys! Vic is a great speaker and knowledgeable!
Have always been a huge fan of Victor's, obviously he should have won the 2007 Mr O. That said I still think he has one of the best combinations of size and Aesthetics to ever be on a bodybuilding stage. Extremely underrated when people talk about best physiques of all time in my opinion.
Thank you for the shoutout Vic
Thank you Vlad too 🙏👍
Build naturally. If that's all you got.... that's all you got. It's just not worth it, because there will be a time you have to make the payment. And believe it. Time moves fast.
Well said. Honestly, hit 40+ and you don't give a flying fk about looking big in front of a mirror, you care about looking good, feeling good, in front of your family and friends. You care about longevity and life span. It's just not worth it. Challenge yourself to be the best you can naturally.
@@megmucklebones7538 🙏
@@megmucklebones7538 100% agree. Been a natty my whole life. Never had any severe health issues whatsoever and I rose to the top at the age of 22, outworking everyone in my path. Now at 38, I just try to maintain a healthy muscular physique.
WOW! this is pretty good podcast,, a lot of good information... Thanks guys for sharing your wisdom👍
Respect for Victor Martinez for this podcast....A really good education from a man who has been there done that in bodybuilding.....Love it..🇫🇯🇫🇯💯💯
Bostin passed at 29 or 30 were the same age. He was good dude rich said something about all IGF-1 on the market being fake and Bostin took it as offense due to Him saying Rich ordered 20 bottles of his IGF-1 and telling him it felt like real stuff. It's all old so who knows if that was really why tho. But Bostin was a good dude. This was a good podcast too bro for sure.
"Once the damage is done" what a great statement I wish my younger self paid attention to, I never competed or made a dime from using steriods used it just to look good (which I already did) and me, my liver and testicles paid the price, now I'm older I have to do TRT which is a pain in the ass and very expensive, wish I could go back and tell my younger self "it's not worth it"
I love being a TRT.
Here here brother 🙌 here here 😢. SAME!
what steroid did u take
Why is trt very expensive? It costs me like 1500 a year for labs and medication. Not expensive at all. Find a better provider if you getting fleeced for too much money just for T.
Tren cough I ever had was on Tren ace. It comes within minutes of injection. It lasts a few minutes and it feels like your having a heart attack
Con jeringa de insulina no da tos.
Never had that with tren enanthate though.. I ran 100mg of tren enanthate a week and it did and amazing job
@@Mike.Sadaladid u check liver ?
Vic is saying what I’ve been telling these kids for years about the difference between pharmaceutical gear vs underground lab gear . He’s 💯 percent spot on!
There are plenty of UGL that have excellent quality gear. many of the Chinese suppliers are the exact same ones who supply Big Pharma. There are only so many sources for raw product. There are quite a few legit Chinese Pharma suppliers that operate a UG supply as a separate division to their above board operations!
So much knowledge, uncrowned Mr.O 2007 ❤ Vic
I agree he was tough that year
I appreciate your honesty and teaching straight up about all of the things that can go wrong with you.
Victor could listen to him all day
“Come on vlad , you’ve done a cc”😂
Lol, Vic is spot on about Anadrol. It's the shit pre workout. I love it it's my fav PED. Piana loved it with Tren but that's risky AF as both can boost progesterone. My FAV preworkout ever, 6000 mg L Citrulline , 200 mg caffeine tab, 50 mg Ephedra, 25 mg Anadrol. Pumps so intense I couldn't take of my shirt for ten minutes as my arms were too pumped😅
You will regret it
Whether muscle or fat, the heart doesn't know the difference - Rich Piana
Great discussion...Idea for topic...As we get older we need additional nutritional supplements to maintain health....How about discussing things like digestive enzymes, prebiotics with probiotics for gut health and other supplements to keep us healthy......I would love to hear Vic's supplement line up...
Great show...💯💪
Sauerkraut
Who da foook is that guy. Telling people to find pharm Halotestin?!😂😂😂😂 Bruh please just leave this segment to Victor
halotestin was available as a pharmaceutical drug for years but it was removed from the market because more effective drugs exist look up fluoxymesterone and you will see it was sold by large pharma companies
Yeah, they kept cutting into the conversation while Vic was talking.
@@jamesdjl4359 you see Vics face when dude starts spewing b.s.😂
Great pod cast thankyou. Rogan is the best example of gh head
Vic is HILARIOUS! imagine going for a drink with him LOL!!
😂 the fag impression had me dead ☠️
always appreciated vic man, wish he would have won the O at least once
🤔Technically he did against jay he was just clearly robbed blind🤷🏾♂️
Yep, the year he BEAT Jay Cutler. You’re correct. #Robbery
Good podcast. Keep giving the real information!
I’m glad you touched on that at the 32minute mark about most coaches looking like crap. It’s true. Look at Chad Nichols and Hany Rambod. These are not impressive looking guys but they’re some of the best bodybuilding coaches out there. Look at most basketball coaches, are they 6 foot eight? No they’re usually short fat old guys. But they know how to coach. I see it all the time in the gym, “oh, this guy tried to give me advice, but I’m bigger than him so I won’t listen”
You forgot Aceto guy looks like he works at a gas station
@@presidentcomacho3816 lol his clothing cracks me up 😂 also when he does podcasts he’s been wearing the same cheap broken headphones that literally look like they’re from 1999. Super smart guy though!!
@Matthew Dean just don't get him started about his tenants bed bugs
It’s sad that anyone takes any gear really. We kid ourselves that we will be ok. I have seen and heard so much shit happen to people. Stay natural and be happy
In New York testosterone is a Class II drug. Every other state is Class III. That’s why it’s hard to find even testosterone clinics in NY.
yep1 THATS CRAZY... I believe NJ is same
Sounds like they are almost forcing people to find it illegally. I absolutely hate that...
@@SeattleSuburbanDad exactly. While it being brain-washed legally towards children younger than 10 yrs old for “hormonal replacement” just absurd 👎🏼👎🏼
Ironic you can buy them all over the counter in mexico.. I love mexico..
@@williegilligan2661 for sure! AMEN
Clenbuterol is asthma medication made for equine use (horses) , it can and will cause rapid heart beat, increase in body temperature, and if abused will absolutely cause heart attack, stroke, or both at the same time. If used in small safe doses and two days on one day off for no longer than 3 to 4 weeks, it will both tone muscle tissue, and decrease subcutaneous body fat for the cut look.
Testosterone Enanthate
Nandroione Deconoate
Boldenone Undecyclenate
All in one what do you think??
Not bad, ive done similar.
Keep test low to cover the minimum and make the base of the cycle boldenon with little deca on top you wont need much i think
Quit bolde.
Great information, Great Podcast 💯
Anabolic steroids was NEVER mentioned during my 14yrs of school (minus biochem briefly). Sure Testosterone, insulin etc but just what’s needed medically.
Another fire one!!
They’re are many other drugs that pros take that aren’t even mentioned here. When you take moderate doses gh you don’t need as much anabolics. Myostatin inhibitors, sarms and increlex as well as long acting insulin are not mentioned. Steroids are old school tbh in the realm of chemical enhancement.
Oh and I forgot peptides and SEOs
Myostatin cant be inhibited
Whatever you do, make sure you let Vic talk like that. Good video, good speaker
Tren is the king for strength. Also I remember getting tren made from finnsplex tablets. That shit was insane.
Hahaha yup the finaplex implants. Those were the days lol
yes, that and trestolone! 💪🏼
Anapolon is better
@@vaskodimoski5690 great stuff too
Dose?
Great discussion guys
Two factors I don’t hear being mentioned which are dose vs duration.
You can run harsher compounds at lower dosages for longer periods and vice versa.
Are you sure dose is relevant here? U haven't heard this
This is the best BB podcast . Hate to say it , as they promote Kai way too much , as vlad obviously sleeps with him…
But a great show
😂😂😂😂
So proud of my boy Vic! DYCKMAN REPRESENT!
🇩🇴💯💯
Good talk but bro what I don’t like is that vlad has been doing this shit for years now and has talked about steroids multiple times and still act like he don’t know what her talking about like at this point bro it’s annoying
These skits are funny asf every video 😂
That intro was hilarious 🤣
9:41 Pure Sopranos card game energy! 😆🤣 💯
Basskiller recipe from Cattle pellets were the best ever
Why is Vlad pretending like he doesn't know the sh1t aboit steroids, I'm not getting it?
To act as someone who doesn't, and ask the type of questions they would ask.
Outside of bodybuilding TREN was first developed to put size on cattle FAST.
Tren: the drug you take a lot if you know a little, or take a little if you know a lot. Guys talk about a “low dose” tren cycle at 300mg/wk. “I only took 50 mg/day” they say. You can get a ton out of the drug at 100 mg a WEEK.
Facts bro less is better just stay consistent with diet and training.
💯 man. I’m dosing 100 hundred milligrams a week right now along with about 350mg of sustanon a week and the strength is phenomenal. I’ve run 750 mg of test and about 350 mg of Tren a week, stacked with masteron also
And saw rather similar results. The only side effect I have is the night sweats right now.
Tren was made for steer to keep them bulked up. They also use a fraction of what bodybuilders use. And we r talking about bulking up a 1500 lb cow…
this is why its the most abused AAS
Guys think the need 600 mg of tren a week😅
@@patb5266 and that's why they all get gyno and sides they dont know to control. they know nothing about the ped world...
Delighted to see Phil Heath appear on Generation Iron. Looks like he's maintaining his form. Hope to see him one more time on stage. Who knows, maybe #8??
? Joke? This is victor Martinez
Vics arms..Holy smoke they are crazy..
Imagine Masters O Jay vs victor! That would be cool but……….. negativity would ruin the coolest moment ever!
Vlad playing dumb and Vic like “C’mon Vlad you’re on like all of us” 😂
Tren is the only one on googles list I agree with
Guys what's happened with the Victor Martine's supp company? He started it couple years ago but the internet site is down
Too much competition probably failed
That’s Joel Stubbs (best back Ever) in the thumbnail 🫡💪
amazing hair/beard on the knicks guy
Clen can be used without interruption or cycling by taking ketotifen along with it and that will prevent the down regulation of the receptors. Taken at a reasonable dose clen is not the least bit dangerous!
Victor Martinez one of the best to ever do it 💯💯💯💯
The absolute ultimate PED stack, test enanthate 300, tren enanthate 250, & anadrol 50, otherwise known as THE SUPERMAN STACK...
Guys...listen to the 2007 Mr.Olympia.He knows what he is talking about.
This is the most realest podcast around thanks for keeping it 100, appreciate you guys.
Thanks for listening
@@GenerationIron Thank you buddy.
Man i reeeally appreciate this talk, i was literally gonna get some clenbuteral from some dude i know, the guy was lab making it but for some reason he wasnt able to get it & sent me my money back, just stating it as the 2nd most dangerous one... if anyone has stories to share w/ me about clen im all ears
Seek a natural path
Synthetic is not worth it
Honestly that stuff sets your whole insides on fire and it's not worth it. If you have to go the steroid route tho just use a little anavar, good luck!
It's not dangerous
For that I started learning English 5 years ago ❤️ thanks for this content
Instant follow. Anyone who has past knowledge because of ACTUALLY using PEDs, then talking about how dangerous it is definitely has my respect.
Great chat guys. 👍👍👍
Ok so they are the dangerous drugs, what are ones that you would recommend as on the lower end of the danger spectrum?
first-they aren't "drugs" they are hormones.... understand that before anything. and its only considered dangerous because its extremely powerful. its 500/500 o the AAS scale when compared to test which is 100/100.... its the most abused which is why most men cycle this completely wrong! for the "lower end spectrum" it depends on the purpose and what you want out of the cycle.... But if you are new to the AAS WORLD, stick to test base, and you can add primo, Tbol, NPP & proviron, with an AI... simple as that!
Test, anavar.
@@Clint1990 which test? C, P, E, A?
@michaelreid2912 I'd go with E. You only have to pin twice a week and you get more for the money.
Mr.Martinez I appreciate your Tutelage .
Anadrol too. Causes liver cancer
I made my best ever gains on tren, I also lost my marriage and kids, I found it impossible to stay loyal on that stuff, I became a different guy on that stuff, I absolutely loved it at the time, now years later, I have no muscle, bad health and live on my own.
Jesus dude.
Tren by far will make you completely insane and it doesn’t matter where you are and what you’re doing!! Guaranteed if you are going to ever do it take very small amounts because it’s so so hard on your mental health and your physical health.
Talk about best looking coach at 60, in next episode
Lol just stumbled on this POD cast. Funny as shit!
Please , let Victor. Speak up ! He knows a lot to say !
Vic is funny as hell great show
Tren is not bad at all if you run 10 weeks and stay under 500mgs people just get stupid and go super high and never come off
That's what all crackheads say!! 😂😂😂
this is bullshit tren is absolutely bad for you regardless of dose. only someone who has no clue about steroids would make such an asinine claim. 500mg is a very high dose of tren and virtually nobody needs 500mg a week. when it was available as a pharmaceutical a therapeutic dose was 50mg per week.
@Edwin Ward tren is suppressive but doesn't doesn't trigger estrogen like testosterone does. That's one reason it's used for cutting. It can be used without test but not the best idea. Using tren add 250mg test a week and have AI( Arimadex or Aromasin) for the test and maybe pramiprexol for the Tren. Tren is not for beginners. After a cycle PCT is a MUST> Clomid and nolvadex and possibly HCG with those.
@patb5266 tren doesn't conveet to estrogen but progestin so run vitamin b6 with it instead of an ai, only use an ai if sides arise from the test
@russellmuscle7434 Depending on the studies you look at, tren has been shown to convert via aromatase and 5 alpha reductase. Tren does not convert into progesterone. It has a high affinity to bind to the progesterone receptor. Vitamin B6 is used to lower prolactin, b6 has been shown to raise progesterone levels and lower estrogen to help with pms.
BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU READ COMMENTS RECOMENDING YOU TAKE DRUGS FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY DO. TREN IS NOT SAFE REGARDLESS. STEROIDS ARE NOT SAFE, IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THEM DO PROPER RESEARCH AND REALIZE WHEN ITS TIME TO CASH THE CHECK YOU WROTE YEARS BEFORE, IT WAS YOUR DECISION.
What is your advice for someone who wants to compete for the first time? Which cycle would be best for men's physique (Amateur)
Will get these questions to the team!
Disclaimer: Not medical advice.
Stick to the basics bro. Add one compound at a time to see how you react. Always start with just testosterone 200mg a week. See how you handle the sides. Find out If you're sensitive to estrogen conversion or prolactin, progesterone etc. If you're okay after a month to 6 weeks, you can increase to 250mg. Etc.. You should really find a more knowledgeable and reputable mentor. You shouldn't just play with your biochemistry nonchalantly. Don't just brush aside the possible lifelong ramifications of hormone modification.
@@jamesdjl4359 Thank you!
i love victor, he is just like one of ur homies from day 1
Victor Martinezsuprised me, he has great seans of humor
I only clicked on this video because that thumbnail is hilarious. 😂😂
It’s actually a funny and informative podcast 😂
Tren can be used in lower doses. You can lower your test and keep tren low. Maybe talk about doses because you get less side effects with lower doses and you can still get results.
Nathan de ashar has said he takes it year round, no breaks .
Mannnn i love Vitcor hes so real and cuts the BS out
What's more impressive than the effects of roids is the effect of post roid shrinkage. I've seen Pro BB's literary melt in front of me, we're talking from hero to zero in weeks. The stuff is so potent they can become huge again in almost the same time.
Tren the bull steriod , it’s still used for bulking up livestock
Respect for Vic Martinez
Natty's have no idea the power of testosterone when it comes to recovery. Dennis Rodman could party all night, no sleep and win championships.
Rodman was on test? Well I guess that makes sense
What is your current gear Victor
Victor just ain't aging.
Dude looks so good
They keep interrupting big man mid sentence. So annoying.
Finaplex. Used for cattle muscle growth before slaughter. That was its first intended purpose.
Vic making some good jokes and comedy here lol
Tren was developed for livestock, to get cattle as big as possible
It was too keep them from losing weight during transport to the slaughterhouse because they can't eat on the truck and were losing 20lbs
Orgenon is still on the go. I’m currently taking sus 250 from Orgenon
Tren was developed for the cattle industry! Need those giant steaks
thats correct. Finaplex
I did gear at 40 year old.. Tren...... I had ten cough eveyt time.. and insomnia... but the strenght gains was insane... but its not worth it.
Take a few benzos or seroquel to 25 a 50mg and sleep.
Hope my feet dont grow man cus im 27 and wear a 13 my shoes are already mad expensive
Awesome discussion, guys! Surely learnt a lot ❤
Learned a lot learnt but I get it
Tren is used with cattle as well
If you do not ever get tren cough, does that mean that your “tren” is not tren?
There's two different kinds of Tren. Only one gives you a cough
@@jerrymills3474 you mean tren ace ?
Not true I had the most potent Tren ever it gave me no cough but my friend would cough til he passes out depends on person. It will give you a metal taste in the mouth sometimes that’s how you know it’s real
Si usas jeringa de insulina no da tos.
What is the economic impact of PEDS on bodybuilding as a sport?
Great question. A lot covered on that topic on our research here generationiron.com/steroids-bodybuilding/ and we also cover a great deal of these topics with Dr O’Connor and Doctor T
Good question!