“Is it time for us to get divorced?”

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  • Ramit Sethi of I Will Teach You To Be Rich talks to Kevin and Ebony. Both 52, they have two older kids and have turned their attention to retirement planning. But standing in the way are $135,000 of debt, a recurring issue, and 29 years of deeply ingrained negative communication patterns when it comes to money.
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  • @ramitsethi
    @ramitsethi  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    0:00 Please remember: These are real people who had the courage to come on my podcast and ask for help. Would you be willing to come on this podcast and share every detail of your financial life? Feel free to leave comments based on what you think, but remember that we are here to help in a supportive way, not to demean and criticize.
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    • @nivaldovega1983
      @nivaldovega1983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hugging

    • @brianhagan6286
      @brianhagan6286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do your plans work in Ireland

    • @irenetassie7528
      @irenetassie7528 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello Ramit. I am a 40 year old woman. I never really had a relationship with my mom. But she had a very rough life. I'm not sure I fear homelessness but I have been homeless and I accept that is possible for my future and many of my decisions keep that in mind.

    • @PaulSmith-fx8jb
      @PaulSmith-fx8jb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, I liked the times you had in earlier episodes in your comment - so that it was possible to see how the interview was broken down into chapters. Can we get this back, please?

    • @LucyPooh777
      @LucyPooh777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Ramit for this very important reminder! Your guests share their personal and financial struggles so we could also learn from them. We might disagree with their attitudes, beliefs or decisions but being criticized and mocked are not something they signed up for in this show. I’m sure it s not easy for them & their own families to be this transparent to the world. Thanks Ramit for all that you do! 🙏 You are truly changing lives.

  • @candydreams7306
    @candydreams7306 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    My uncle. He was able to retire early as a multimillionare and everyone thought he was stuck up and cruel because he wouldn't let family drain his money (my family has a long history of gambling so it makes sense to me why he didn't "help"). He had a decent house in a reasonably priced state, and I admired his frugality and his money management. Unfortunately he passed suddenly just as I was getting on my own financial journey. Otherwise I would have wanted to learn as much as I could from him.
    He tried to tell me about Roth IRA and investments when I was 12 and 13 but I blocked it out. I was always taught money was supposed to be spent so it was very difficult for me to understand why I would save and put it into the stock market when I heard that it was a risk. It made more sense in my mind to spend on enjoyment instead of "throwing it away" lol.
    I hope wherever he is, he's proud of where I am headed financially.

    • @mmp495
      @mmp495 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      He is. You were listening and you are now here. ❤

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      my niece is all in on what ive been showing her even though her father doesnt want to take my advice for his own shit lol. but yeah if I would have came at her two years ago when she was 13 it would have been ignored. shes working now and im like 'do you want to not have to work passed this certain age?' lol

  • @latoyaforbes5726
    @latoyaforbes5726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    I am addicted to this content! I love the bravery of the couples.

  • @jhernandez335xi
    @jhernandez335xi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    This was a reality check for me. My partner & I do this a lot.. we take pot shots towards each other as a defense mechanism in the attempt to be right. We've been though a lot in our 10 years together... somethings that most marriages would never survive. Watching these are helping me reframe how I communicate with my partner & breaking the negative patterns.

    • @007newnew
      @007newnew 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Same.

    • @gerardomorales4078
      @gerardomorales4078 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was an amazing episode! So much more psychology than money. I really wish them the best.

  • @trisha8415
    @trisha8415 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    THANK YOU for calling out the insults masquerading as jokes. So many people normalize this but it’s so aggressive to the people we are supposed to love and value the most. Why break eachother down instead of lifting up? Totally valid to be constructively critical for the benefit of shared goals, but demeaning jokes are just unkind and breeds so much resentment.

  • @ritarogers2657
    @ritarogers2657 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +181

    Kevin is a good husband, truly loves his wfe. Despite all his faults he showed up to discuss and expose their lives for the rest of us to learn. Honest and direct talk! Kudos I say!

    • @mmp495
      @mmp495 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He is a good man and they do love each other.❤

    • @saeedhossain6099
      @saeedhossain6099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he's living under the constant threat of divorce while holding down the house, working to rebuild his work life every time they move for her job. frankly it sounds pretty abusive and her threatening to quit the marriage will impact her far more than him. sorry but this is a 1950's marriage just with the genders swapped.

  • @MaddieMettler
    @MaddieMettler 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    It’s really frustrating in these conversations that it is always put on the stressed out person to come up with solutions or ways for their partner to step up. It puts EVEN more of the mental and emotional load on them. Rather than Kevin asking what he could do to help Ebony, it would be so much nicer if the prompt Ramit asked Kevin to suggest a few ways to lighten Ebony’s load.

    • @woboznz
      @woboznz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I know what you mean but I wonder if he'd asked kevin to start Brainstorming ways he could step up, he would've been pretty lacklustre and clueless where to begin. He's had 29 years of cruise control and being able to relax, probably wants status quo maintained. I think he needed to be called out first by a third party to get the memo!

    • @peddle2themetal
      @peddle2themetal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      It’s not fair that all the thinking, responsibility, and decision-making is put on Ebony. I was disappointed that Ramit didn’t point that out.

    • @verb0ze
      @verb0ze 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I get what you're saying, and in this case I disagree for the simple fact that Ebony likes a sense of control. Ramit DID ask Kevin what he could do, and he admitted he didn't know because it wouldn't be up to Ebony's standards. This suggests he may have attempted to offer solutions before. The whole "get educated and run my spreadsheet" was very insightful to this regard. Ramit needed to get Ebony to willingly relinquish control by getting her to see that her system didn't work. It wouldn't otherwise have mattered what Kevin suggested, it wouldn't have been good enough. Ramit was perceptive of this, and I think he took the right approach of getting Ebony to state exactly what she needed from her husband. I see this dynamic in couples so often: one person thinks the other should just come up with solutions they have in their minds, when the most direct path to the outcome they desire is stating what they need, what they are missing.

    • @TJrules299
      @TJrules299 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for pointing this out!

    • @1bluegreen2
      @1bluegreen2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As a woman...it's important to see a man be more decisive. She wants him to LEAD. She is a hard worker, but like many women ..we will step aside and release the wheel if whenever the man has control occasionally, they take the opportunity to demonstrate they can be responsible....and why does Ebony have to get a stressful job for more money? Why not work on the budget and live within/below their means? They make good money. Money is not everything Ebony do not do this!

  • @mamalovesthebeach437
    @mamalovesthebeach437 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Kevin and Ebony are another courageous and devoted couple. They would not expose themselves publicly in this way if they were not a committed couple. I see so many couples do the “sniping” thing and it’s so destructive. If a partner loves you AND you can tell them EXACTLY what you want, they will look for a way to help you get what you want. Sometimes we need someone to call us on out hard on our repeated behavior. This episode had me emotional and brought me to tears…I feel compassion for both Kevin and Ebony and want them to live their rich life. You gave them such great guidance…you’re beyond a financial counselor…beautiful to watch. The Gottman Method is very helpful for long term couples to get back to loving communication. Please have them back in a year Ramit. This couple is awesome. I wish them all the best.💜💜

  • @expertonmyself
    @expertonmyself 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    one of the things ebony said really struck me. she said she's never been able to negotiate [better salaries] because she was always running away from a [toxic] job. i've experienced a little bit of the same thing. it's hard to remember that you CAN/SHOULD STILL negotiate, even when making a move essentially based on emotional/mental wellbeing, while hoping you're not jumping from the pot to the frying pan.

    • @shespeakz9377
      @shespeakz9377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very interesting she can't negotiate and she's an attorney

  • @danielromerosol4158
    @danielromerosol4158 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    This couple is a living example of the systemic problems some communities live with. Is harder to move in the socioeconomic ladder. Taking care of family members kids for years...

    • @eileenwatt8283
      @eileenwatt8283 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      They will drain your finances.

    • @Coastpsych_fi99
      @Coastpsych_fi99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s sad but exemplifies the risk of marriage to your financial welfare and wellbeing. Your partner can be amazing and drag you down.

    • @verb0ze
      @verb0ze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's a lack of education. Financial education to be exact. Sometimes people think their problem is solely the lack of money, when really it's impulse and a lack of planning. And we create inter dependencies that drag us down. Tbf, we are constantly bombarded with nudges to spend spend spend.

    • @slaychildhoodmoneyscripts
      @slaychildhoodmoneyscripts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeap! The ones who don’t look rich on the outside, can be highly competent and highly compassionate individuals who help out their family and friends.

  • @anjestokes
    @anjestokes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I respect Ebony wanting to stay in a job that she finally liked and wasn't toxic. Your mental health is just as important as your financial health. I don't know that getting another job where she made more money would actually 'solve a lot of problems'. Especially if the money managing dynamic remains the same. I don't remember what Kevin does for a living, but I'm surprised that it wasn't suggested that he help add to his income. Wishing them the best and hoping for continued teamwork and love for them both.

  • @susanaseymore3851
    @susanaseymore3851 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I really appreciate the way you step in when couples start to get combative or bad talk each other. You do it in a way that almost awakens them to their reality of why they are where they are. And you do it in a very direct and professional way, I like it!

  • @tv.mcknight
    @tv.mcknight 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    It was nice to see Ramit apologize because I was kinda I shocked how out of character he got. I’ve been reading his book and promoting it to all my family & friends. Watching all of his interviews on TH-cam. As we sit down to watch it, and hear his tone during some parts, there was a little bit of an uncomfortable feeling also because we rarely see black people on his podcast and when we do…it was uncomfortable. Me & my husband thought about reaching out because we really love Ramit and all he teaches but exposing your financial issues online is on a different level of boldness so we applaud this couple for their willingness to get out there and receive advice/help. Definitely not for everyone.

    • @MsJai_1
      @MsJai_1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I had the same uncomfortable feeling, as well. I am also glad he apologized to them. 👩🏾

    • @beastmode1644
      @beastmode1644 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MsJai_1yall just cant shutup sometimes 👩🏿‍🦰 thats why it hurts hearing him regular yall asses

    • @TJrules299
      @TJrules299 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Glad others noted this b/c it was really frustrating to watch.

    • @melitimo
      @melitimo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same. I cringed so hard they weren’t even going that hard against each other they are a real and honest couple that have achieved so much. They should have been praised more for what they have accomplished tbh

    • @melitimo
      @melitimo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And her concerns with the job is so reflective in how he was talking to her as well. I feel like she’s dealt with in this same way. Amit needs to check his implicit bias.

  • @truqqy
    @truqqy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    1.00.34 thanks Ramit for apologizing to the couple for berating them like teenagers. What most of your guests project in these interviews is complex - a combination of shame at where they are with their finances, and for older couples, embarrassment that they have to turn to someone young enough to be their child for help. Also, fear at what the future holds if nothing changes coupled with immense vulnerability for laying bear their finances for the whole world including their family and friends to see and judge. So go easy on them when they get on your nerves.

  • @stephyworld8713
    @stephyworld8713 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I have litteraly no example of people in my immediate circle who display good money management skills or even are in a enviable financial situation 🥴 that's why I follow this podcast and look online for financial guidance and inspiration🤷🏻‍♀️.

    • @lexa3331
      @lexa3331 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same lol I don’t personally know a single person who I envy their money skills or situation. I don’t even envy the ones with a lot bc they’re still stressed and wanting more.

  • @dakine4238
    @dakine4238 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    What a sweet, relatable couple. I like they can laugh with each other. I wish them lots of success and hope we get another update ❤️

  • @andreamckenzie8598
    @andreamckenzie8598 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    This is a really fascinating episode. I get Ebony, honestly; she was traumatized by living poor and being surrounded by even worse poverty; poverty that all things considered, she was not necessarily that far away from; as many say, most people are one major emergency away from homelessness (my partner is a social worker who works with this population; it's no joke how easily it can happen when you're not starting out with much) and with all the debt they're in, I can understand why she is afraid that that could still happen to her even if their financial foundation is much stronger than she's willing to put faith into. So having a tight control over the finances is a way to cope with that fear; if you know exactly how everything is going, you can't be afraid it's about to happen to you.
    But, speaking from experience, having a tight control over your finances doesn't mean you're doing the right things or setting yourself up for success. Doesn't mean you're horrifically messing up, it's just not the answer to the problem when the problem isn't _just_ a lack of insight as to where it's all going. You need to be able to unclench, step back, eat a slice of humble pie, and try to set up systems for yourself so you can make decisions that are more in line with what you want to be your priorities, rather than what you've been _prioritizing_ unconsciously.
    It also doesn't help that when you're used to taking control, you disempower your partner to take it from you when you don't want it, and then you don't trust them enough to pleasantly surprise you with their approach. Ask me how I know 🤦

    • @hrhsophiathefirst4060
      @hrhsophiathefirst4060 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Preach! If I got hit by a bus my husband could not tell you which insurance company had the policy! I printed a list of important accounts and that is the level of his involvement. The struggle is real!

  • @laurenhall2131
    @laurenhall2131 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I applaud them for their transparency and efforts to not be what they experienced in childhood. We don’t know what we don’t know. They have worked to do but they are seeking the help and that’s commendable.

  • @AmyAnnetteHenion
    @AmyAnnetteHenion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Honestly, I had no financial role models until I discovered Ramit. Everything my parents taught me about money growing up was about penny pinching. I was raised to fear money. It wasn't until my late twenties that I realized I was actually curious to learn how money works. I read a handful of books, including I Will Teach You to Be Rich, and it quickly dawned on me that after only a few hours spent reading, I suddenly knew more about money in a weekend than my parents ever learned. It was frustrating yet liberating at the same time.

  • @wakeupstylellc
    @wakeupstylellc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I like Dave Ramsey and his no debt approach. But I like how Ramit’s plan has a space for guilt free spending, even when you are trying to pay off debt.

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah that dave ramsey shit is a bit too strict for a lot of people. and even those who can get through it don't ever learn how to spend thus they do not get to a point to where they address their money psychology. hiding behind frugality

  • @mzcain1521
    @mzcain1521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    She’s been a lawyer for 20+ years and isn’t even making $100K?????? Why??????

    • @renogunzddragon1900
      @renogunzddragon1900 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's in that bubble comfort zone 😅..if i was the husband, with the wife said herself she likes being right ..its a redflag my man..simp always be blind.

  • @n.g.3741
    @n.g.3741 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I can definitely relate to her when she mentioned taking a pay cut just for peace at work. Sometimes it is more important to have a healthy work life more than money. I'd just get a second just that get's the job done vs losing the one I like and risking getting into a place that I hate again.

    • @teachnyc7937
      @teachnyc7937 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think it’s hard for people to understand what it’s like as a black woman in so many industries. Burn out, being pigeon holed, toxic treatment…

    • @dthefemsexy
      @dthefemsexy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      1000%. I was thinking this as he was talking to her about finding a different job. I'm a Black woman in her 40s and I graduated law school in 2020. I'd been a legal secretary and paralegal for years before law school so I had a better idea of what I was getting into compared to most. Six months into my first law firm job, I knew that I had to leave. I contemplated looking at different firms but knew that a different firm would likely have the same issues that made me want to leave my first firm. Fortunately, I made a solid connection with a corporate client who knew that I wasn't happy and he created a position for me. I was at the firm for about a year and I'm almost 2 years into my current job. I could make more if I went back to a firm but it wouldn't be worth the tradeoffs. My boss and I click very well, he's fair, stands up for his team and values work life balance.

  • @paigekelso-znak2482
    @paigekelso-znak2482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I was a little disappointed in this episode. This was an excellent example of weaponized incompetence, which appears to have been overlooked because Kevin was so "nice." Exploiting someone else's labor isn't fixed by being really sweet and appreciative about it. Maybe some gender blindness here.

  • @professlch6347
    @professlch6347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Surprised by my answer, but? My father. At the top of his income-earning years, he made a fraction of my salary and has bigger liquid savings than I've ever had. Don't know how he does it. BTW: the job dynamic that the wife describes? Explains so MUCH about how she is in this video. Her competency, her in-her-head spinning, her tit-for-tat: this is a woman used to being under siege without cover or protection. From childhood, she's been firing from the trenches, warding off the fear of falling/financial poverty. She's achieved, but? Still running. Sheesh. This is so real for some 1stGen "successes;" it comes at a price.

  • @KirienSangha
    @KirienSangha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    @Ramit - thanks for this great episode.
    Kevin/Ebony - I really admire you both for coming on and sharing your challenges. What an incredible example you are to us all; showing us that we can change despite having deep rooted beliefs for such a long time. I'm sure that in the near future your kid will look at you both with wide-reaching love and admiration for the tough decisions you were willing to make in order to build a more secure financial footing for your family.
    Ebony - my very sincere wish is that you are able to take the Dream Job course. I did it 10 years ago and it is brilliant. Life-changing, in fact. Good luck. I'm rooting for you.

  • @jenniferortiz1693
    @jenniferortiz1693 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I can’t say I have anyone that I admire because the truth is a lot people don’t talk about money, so if it’s not an immediate family member then I don’t know anything more than what’s on the surface.
    Ps. Just want to say thank you to the couples that come on this show. It’s so brave to put your issues out there. Just know based on the number of views you are definitely not alone. There’s a reason so many people are watching. We can all relate!

  • @dianamac2878
    @dianamac2878 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    What a nice couple. Smart and good looking solid family. Fingers crossed they’ll make it.

  • @Rashaadthegr8
    @Rashaadthegr8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Stop helping people when you're broke yourself. Best thing to do for someone is to help them get a job.

  • @weepangoons
    @weepangoons 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I am glad you called out the sniping, Ramit! I can definitely see how resentment built up over time can manifest this way, but it is not productive or constructive. I always admire your skill at holding a mirror up so people become aware of their own behaviour and thought patterns, but not making them feel judged or defensive about it. Great job as always.

  • @sidehustlevikki1066
    @sidehustlevikki1066 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I love how Ramit held both of them accountable. They both frustrated me. The husband really seemed unbothered it’s like she is telling him the house on fire and her husband is just like it’s ok, the fire department is on its way, they will handle it. She also is very overbearing and controlling so I can see why he may have chosen not to contribute more and chooses not to participate in difficult conversations. Them treating each other better will ultimately give both parties what they want

  • @labitcoineragt3596
    @labitcoineragt3596 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Ebony was me 5 years ago. Wondering why I felt that everything was on my shoulders when in reality it was me trying to control everything because I didn’t think my husband knew how to do it right and we got into debt we were overwhelmed and we couldn’t talk about money because I had a wrong money mentality even though I thought I was the smartest one in the room lol 😂

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      congrats on escaping that

  • @workinprogresssince1974
    @workinprogresssince1974 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    My Dad is the person I admire the most for the way he treats money. I do things similarly to him by observation. He built a secure financial footing for the family and now my parents have retired financially secure and able to help their children and grandchildren if unavoidable events happen. It's one thing I don't have to worry about - the financial safety of my parents.

    • @felixg.7752
      @felixg.7752 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      May you keep that a tradition for future generations to come

    • @eileenwatt8283
      @eileenwatt8283 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need to not rely on their money. If they have a major long term illness it can drain their finances expecially if both are sick. I see people who are hospitalized for 1 year or more in the hospital. The healthcare bills were millions. It's worst when both are sick. Don't rely on their investments to help you out, Learn and invest for your self,

    • @workinprogresssince1974
      @workinprogresssince1974 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eileenwatt8283 I don't rely on their money. They rely on their money. And sometimes my brother relies on their money. I have never asked for a penny since I left home 31 years ago. They have never helped me because I have never asked them to. I know they have set aside funds for their care in old age. They have planned as best they can. You can't always account for everything and money doesn't solve all problems but they have done what they can.

    • @angeleyes3396
      @angeleyes3396 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine too. I love him so much.

  • @vulpixelful
    @vulpixelful 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I'm glad the sniping was called out. I know it can happen in every family, but I see it in the black community a lot, and it's played for comedy in our media. It's never really that "cute" in real life.
    I admire Scarlett Cochran. She's a youtuber, with a channel called One Big Happy Life. She has a no-shame, positive attitude towards money. She helped me get out of the Dave Ramsey style of self-immolation and to a more balanced way of goal setting where I would end up ahead, and in a better mental space.

  • @kristinahansen22
    @kristinahansen22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Love to see a new episode! I'm watching in Norway and it would be cool to see somebody from europe on your channel. I think it can be hard to relate sometimes, since american economic and social picture is so different. Still very interesting and educational, though👍

    • @Daniele_Irish
      @Daniele_Irish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hey, I am in Ireland. I agree with you that sometimes is not as easy to relate as a European

    • @justkimintheworld6298
      @justkimintheworld6298 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was just in Norway 10 days ago and I loved it. What an incredibly beauriful country.
      I'm American but I would also be interested in how people from other places in the world manage their finances. Especially because I don't think people in other countries rely as heavily on credit and debit the way many Americans do.

    • @gaurinawathe6856
      @gaurinawathe6856 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes please! Based in France and love watching!

    • @Mayah862
      @Mayah862 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree! Big fan here in London 🎉🎉🎉

    • @annax4052
      @annax4052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Based in China, love the show! Watched every episode

  • @mplsgrl
    @mplsgrl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Someone that I think of that treats money right is my friend Danielle and her husband Justin. The little information that she has shared is what led me to look for how to manage our money better.

  • @tobal0522
    @tobal0522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    One of the best episodes! Thank you Ebody and Kevin for sharing your experience!

  • @MizzJazE
    @MizzJazE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My super boss, older cousin. He is a successful entrepreneur, who started out with one vending machine in his late 20s, stayed the course, built up his capital, and expanded into intentional business investments to include passive income opportunities. Now, he is a multi-millionaire, mostly retired - he still has some ideas :) - He is generous with his knowledge, always open to discussing his ups and downs and lessons learned. As someone ready to build my own business, I take all of his advice to heart and marvel at his ability to fund and live! His rich life.
    Te Amo Primo

  • @judithmiles5949
    @judithmiles5949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I am watching this with my husband. We are Ebony and Kevin is eerily similar ways. I am even an attorney who is in counseling for my issues. My husband is soooo much like Kevin. Except we are 10 years old. Yikes. I thank this couple for being transparent and candid. They will help so many people.

    • @Kornheiser10
      @Kornheiser10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You all are way to you g to be married. You should wait until at least middle-school.

  • @amzbryce
    @amzbryce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    No need to apologize Ramit! I think the direct pattern interrupts were exactly what was necessary. Kevin even said he was surprised how patient you were. Awesome episode, glad this couple had a big breakthrough

  • @barbaratozzano6364
    @barbaratozzano6364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Hi Ramit! Found your channel 2-3 months ago. I've also read your book. Since then I've started investing in index funds every month, and have my finances almost 100% automated. I'mI still at a fairly low income, but no debt. I've also started watching several other finan ial channels and learned a lot. Thanks for helping so many people improve their financial lives.

  • @avgholson8143
    @avgholson8143 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Such a lovely couple. Sometimes advice & realization is best delivered by an outside perspective.

  • @justrandomthought
    @justrandomthought 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can look up to my Dad. He's never lived above his means. He's 77 and still lives this way.

  • @judithmiles5949
    @judithmiles5949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My second oldest brother is one of the people I admire for how he manages money. He has always been disciplined and balanced financial security with having fun with a portion of the money.

  • @hrhsophiathefirst4060
    @hrhsophiathefirst4060 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I did not have any mentors in my immediate circle that influenced me about money. I started investing in my 401K in my early 20s because the CFO at the company I worked at said to. I bought a condo at 25 because it felt like the right thing at the time. Then I started reading, The Millionaire Next Door, Suze Orman, Money magazine, Kiplinger's. It was like I fell down a rabbit hole and just went full steam ahead. Personal financial literacy gives you power.

  • @blackwomenbuildwealth
    @blackwomenbuildwealth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love this episode and this couple a lot! They are clearly in love with each other and will do their best to improve their situation. I wish them success! Can't wait to get their follow up in a year or so from now. Thanks Ebony and Kevin❤

  • @AdmanToronto
    @AdmanToronto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think that my Dad had a good financial sense but he passed away before he could sit me down and teach me how to live a smart financial life. Now I've been playing catch-up in my early 40's as I'm finally seeing the whole picture.

  • @pearlivory3483
    @pearlivory3483 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Mannnmm ya’ll don’t need a divorce. A great couple. You guys can do it. Keep seeking help. Ya’ll got this!

  • @PaulamiRoyChoudhury
    @PaulamiRoyChoudhury 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really admired my deceased teacher. He had a lot of family responsibilities. But he made sure that he gave a comfortable life to everyone. He taught me that no matter how much you earn, always save something, even if it's a few cents. It's the habit that matters. I took his advice to heart. I come from a family where I have seen my parents make bad financial decisions and losing a lot of money and always counting pennies. So I am glad that I had someone to look else up to.

  • @ellliwhite8773
    @ellliwhite8773 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good evening Sir, thank you for doing this program, they're so educational. As a child, we were never thought, about money. We were raised by a single mom, and the only thing she would say to us, you must save your money, don't buy anything unless it is absolutely necessary.!! Having say that my mother was an elementary school principal, and she was exceptionally Amazing, with her money. With a salary of $200.00 dollars, she supported five of us, we were all in private schools, and my mom, also build our house with us. Do she Always was my, hero, and continues to be my hero. I want to be as savvy, and as smart with my money, like my mom was. Unfortunately, we lost her to cancer, two years ago.

  • @mmp495
    @mmp495 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My dad and a few female mentors at my work. We spoke about finances, investing, retirement and paying off houses. So much love and respect to all of them. ❤ This was a great discussion.

  • @Mochabliss777
    @Mochabliss777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don’t have any financial role models. I’m trying to learn as much as I can so u can have some financial knowledge to pass on to my children.

    • @ramitsethi
      @ramitsethi  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's great that you're taking this into your own hands. A lot of people didn't have good financial role models.

  • @classydenisha
    @classydenisha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Loved this!! They ended the conversation on the same page.

  • @LeesaLilHop
    @LeesaLilHop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great episode! I would love for them to come back and do a follow up

  • @thisisyourfinalwarning
    @thisisyourfinalwarning 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was one of your best work!

  • @AS-kf1ol
    @AS-kf1ol 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So much learned helplessness from this couple. Neither of them are willing to step up, be direct, and get it done.

  • @be59856
    @be59856 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I admire the way my grandparents have saved their money. They would use the money from a sale, reinvest a portion in the business, save most, and live off the rest. They became millionaires.

  • @btphillips79
    @btphillips79 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was such a great episode! Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @vgmijpn8ball
    @vgmijpn8ball 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for another amazing episode! I was blown away when you said most people think logging in and paying bills is personal finance, you've mentioned it before and many guests have talked about paying bills, but it never clicked for me that people really believed that's what it meant to be good at personal finance. So crazy!
    I really hope you can do an episode with people who are fantastic with money and show us the ideal to reach for.

    • @Erica-en2qz
      @Erica-en2qz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! I never thought of that, but that would be great. Average people who are good with money and managing their finances well.

  • @user-rb4lb9og5g
    @user-rb4lb9og5g หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a 67 yr old man and seeing these two (especially Kevin) open up to each other. Coming to realize what she needed brought me to tears. I love this episode!

    • @user-rb4lb9og5g
      @user-rb4lb9og5g หลายเดือนก่อน

      I truly think they’ll need your continued counseling on finance and how to talk to each other

  • @danielforero6424
    @danielforero6424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great episode! So real!

  • @SG-qu1re
    @SG-qu1re 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting episode. I look up to my Grandmother monetarily. She was a VP back when women weren’t and years after my grandfather died she still had money to live on her own and take amazing annual trips with her other widowed friend all around the world.

  • @barborabratova4346
    @barborabratova4346 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The "what I would do" part was helpful, thank you.

  • @donnaallgaier-lamberti3933
    @donnaallgaier-lamberti3933 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If one's spouse's who have constantly repeating financial problems should be evaluated for ADHD. Making money mistakes and ignoring money planning are very common in people with ADHD. This pattern is all to familiar to me and my husband has ADHD.

    • @Capycorg
      @Capycorg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES! ADHD spouses need support and you need to work with their natural skills (and weaknesses)

  • @1H4NDC14PP1N6
    @1H4NDC14PP1N6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a beautiful episode. Great job Ramit

  • @mikey1220
    @mikey1220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best episode yet!

  • @Capycorg
    @Capycorg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:14:44 love this so much!! This couple is inspiring!

  • @prospero128
    @prospero128 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very inspiring, thx Remit

  • @Hylifav326
    @Hylifav326 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm proud of them. But Ramit was right, it was hard to watch this. So many Black men are like Kevin...speaking from my personal experience having to divorce 2, husbands (and my dating life between husbands). The only difference is I never had a problem asking for help, having meetings, and stating my specific needs...the partners I chose couldn't hear me...just like Kevin couldn't hear Ebony. I hope Kevin steps up and removes things from Ebony's plate and also gets himself a higher paying job. It appears that a ton of the financial earring power fell on Ebony. Many blessings to them both🙏🏼.

  • @AlanH2B
    @AlanH2B 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The performance at 35:16 was fantastic, that's Academy Award worthy for sure.

  • @Kornheiser10
    @Kornheiser10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting episode, 3 of my money models are Morgan Housel, William Green and Gautam Baid.

  • @ROCBOYZGURLZ
    @ROCBOYZGURLZ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great episode. For any couples or future couples reading this, please make sure the both of you are discussing your finances. In my line of work, deal with people trying to cancel a contract that sometimes deal with death. I have had multiple cases where the surviving spouse is already grieving and then they are dealing with trying to figure out the finances because the deceased spouse was handling everything. They find out hard truths about debt they didn't know they had etc. Its sad to hear sometimes and a lot of times they don't even leave a life insurance policy. This is an eye opener for my family as well to continue talking about finances and understanding where you are.

  • @ChantelSunday
    @ChantelSunday 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Me! I admire the way that I treat money.

  • @candydreams7306
    @candydreams7306 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She reminds me of my aunt in looks, vocal tone, demeanor, and honesty. Even their laughs are the same. It's uncanny. Let me call my auntie lol.

  • @acilirp
    @acilirp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I feel so sorry for her. She is so stressed and frustrated from their current state.

  • @DonBrownII
    @DonBrownII 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing episode. this is going to hep some folks.

  • @1myedwards
    @1myedwards 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, I can really relate to this couple.

  • @AnyaEightySeven
    @AnyaEightySeven 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hes being WAY harder on this couple than other couples with much crazier stuff going on. Yikes.

  • @Kornheiser10
    @Kornheiser10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Being rich vs. wealthy
    If you’re rich, you have a high current income. But being wealthy is something different - wealth is not visible. It’s the money that you have that’s not spent. It’s the optionality to buy or do something at a future time.
    Being rich offers you opportunities in the short-term, but being wealthy provides you the flexibility of having more of the items you want - freedom, time, possessions - in the future.
    Read Morgan Housel's The Psychology of Money

  • @MsJai_1
    @MsJai_1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I look up to my aunt, financially, and my maternal grandparents.
    They did their best to discuss real estate investment, interest-bearing savings accounts for retirement, and pensions (although rare these days).

  • @lolololo3726
    @lolololo3726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When it comes to money management I admire you.. and Dave Ramsey

  • @springday7013
    @springday7013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can relate to this couple. My spouse and I are very similar.

  • @seanxie5097
    @seanxie5097 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Ramit what are your thoughts on buying life insurance against a mortgage for the house?

  • @jzmina
    @jzmina 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My older sister. On the outside she’s a 30 year old middle school teacher still living at home with our parents.
    Idk the exact details of her finances but I know she’s diligent about paying herself first, saving, and cutting costs of trivial things so she can spend lavishly on her interests. She loves cruises, unique restaurants, and spoiling our little brother and parents with thoughtful gifts.

  • @Hidden2u
    @Hidden2u 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Godmother of Personal Finance - Suze Orman! I began watching her show as a college student.

  • @katherinesanchez_
    @katherinesanchez_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s so hard to listen to her just constantly tear him down. I feel so bad for him. I’m sure they’re both very nice people but she just enjoys him being wrong, way too much.

  • @laundrygoddess4
    @laundrygoddess4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kevin is a good guy. Here's a thing though... Having a laid back partner who has faith in their partner and leaves it all up to them makes that partner feel like they have a dependant child and not a partner to help with the responsibilities. V

  • @ellenfoster96
    @ellenfoster96 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was an amazing episode with many twists and turns. The couple bravely unpeeled the onion to tap into deeper truths and the behavior that was harming or helping. Ramit, the consummate professional, helped them with kindness and humor.
    I was yelling at the screen when they revealed their plan for spending their windfall. So glad they heard Ramit’s suggestions.
    Love this podcast!❤

  • @DonBrownII
    @DonBrownII 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is so so so so so SOOOOO good! 36:00. Ramit could be a relationship expert at this point hahaha

  • @Tee.cmg.1
    @Tee.cmg.1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:02:13 I admire the way my husband treats money. Iv learned so much from him over the past 15 years.

  • @saeedhossain6099
    @saeedhossain6099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    39:03 she can come up with the 100k she's paid to support his family, but she has to do the math on what she owes. the thing about mental math is the stuff you didn't want to pay for were absorbitant, but the stuff you want gets a magical discount.

  • @excitedaboutlearning1639
    @excitedaboutlearning1639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ramit, it's you who I think about when I think about money, but it's also my parents and extended family whose patterns I see.
    This podcast has taught me so much. I've been listening to it since day one, and the first concept I learned was "dynamic/a relationship dynamic." I knew it intuitively but labeling the concept made it concrete and something that I could talk about. It made it possible for me to describe the dynamic my parents had with each other while I was growing up, it allowed me to describe the dynamic I had with my mom and then subsequently with my partner. From the very beginning, I took on the role my mom had, and I've been trying to change the toxic dynamic ever since. I'm making slow progress little by little, but it's damn hard to undo all the automatic reactions that you've learned from your parents.
    The conscious spending plan - the percentages and four simple categories make it easy to understand where my money is going.
    You talking about the real estate myths and dreams rings very close to home: fearing of being priced out, feeling like a loser if I don't own an apartment while my cousins own multiple investment properties and their own homes. But at the same time, I'm extremely proud of myself for knowing my numbers and growing my index fund portfolio monthly.

  • @geovanrich4916
    @geovanrich4916 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would have to say that I admire the way my parents treat money. They did not start with much but now have enough to provide my wife and me with downpayment help on a house without jeopardizing their future. I want to reach the point that they have gotten to money wise

  • @girlhoney
    @girlhoney หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why would he not step up and lessen the financial burden? This relationship is strained because he's passive. He threw his hands up and let her take the reigns. The power dynamic is off...

  • @devonsmith3676
    @devonsmith3676 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just signed up for the newsletter but I think I missed it! Can anyone share the examples please 🙏

  • @melissadattoo4571
    @melissadattoo4571 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You were way too hard on Ebony. I understand why she takes on the role. Cause her hubby just couldn't be bothered....not that he isn't capable...it's just that he doesn't care enough.

  • @sdgirlCook
    @sdgirlCook 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish that couple most of love, patience and dicsipline to go through all their trials❤

  • @hayhay_to333
    @hayhay_to333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what a wonderful couples, i'm sure they can work that out. Good luck to you both and don't get divorce, cuz you're aint going to find anything better than what you have for years together.

  • @KennethBremer-pf9fh
    @KennethBremer-pf9fh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Great video,, very inerestting at certain points i felt like you were talking to me in my relationship and at certain points i got upset with Ramit for being direct but on a scale from 1 through 10 p found this and 8.5 i wish i could get this kind of help. Once again great video

  • @SusannaJ
    @SusannaJ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the dream job program link is not int he description.

  • @ClarisNdoroRealEstate
    @ClarisNdoroRealEstate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I admire my Aunt Lucy and Uncle how they invest and work together as a team when it comes to money.