@@Yukio87 Knowing how to play and executing it are two completely different things. Artosis knows how to play, its his literal career to know starcraft in and out.
I felt the same! He got aggravated when he lost those vessels at the end and all i could say is well thats why you dont chase ultras around the map...i honestly think he wouldve won if he didnt get tunnel visioned on that. That was atleast 2 minutes worth of just following ultras lol
i feel the same but im just a noob. I always thought keeping the vessels alive and casting spells was a kind of mini game in TvZ that decided the match. i thought arty sacs his vessels too often but idk.
@@Roxxigaro yeah your absolutely right the whole point is to keep your first vessels alive the entire game, energy is a huge resource that takes time to charge
@@Medabee8 Heh, nowadays I have a pretty much opposite view. After watching his stream too much I can't take his casts seriously anymore. Each time I try to listen to them I keep hearing at the back of my head him making a "guy in chat" impression or complaining how all the races that players play as are terrible to play against.
@@Medabee8 I mainly watch tastosis casts but I must say.. in a way his toxic attitude is somewhat fun. Lately been watching more of his games / stream.
I assume you dont play competitive mode in any games? That is the appeal. Mobas, rts, mmos have very pasionate people that enjoy the challenge but also rage at the not so good outcome. It is a cycle. He will lose some he will win some.
Have to add, winning a "hard game" like this one would have been one of the most satisfying wins of the day because he conquered the challenge and beat the odds. That is the appeal of competitive games.
@@elian958 The only fact you put this comment makes you an arrogant and bad manner person. Not all of us, who are you and why you think you can speak for us?
What exactly is the purpose of bringing all your science vessels to the zerg’s base without any support to let them get killed with scourge? I would think you would want to keep the costly vessels alive longer so that they can build up energy and keep irradiating. Doesn’t seem worth it to let a vessel die so you can cast an irradiate on an ultralisk, let alone letting 4 of them die the same way. Seems very strange.
His biggest weakness is getting tunnel vision. He lost an couple of vessels when zerg split his army and went separate ways. It was an obvious trap. All you need to do to take Artosis down is to piss him off and lure him into over committing.
He actually prolonged it and was close to making a comeback on multiple occasions after such a terrible start. Very fun back and forth game.. when Artosis killed the 3rd I thought he is gonna make it!
In what reality could he win? He had 1 mining base the whole game, his supply never reached 100, and Zerg was toying with him like a cat with a trapped terrified mouse. :)
@@nikolaipasko Zerg's natural could have been broken. The dude had nothing except a few mutalisks. There was maybe 1 or 2 extra sunkens at the natural than the 3rd. If he kills the natural the game is over.
Things the opponent did well -runned his base quite effectively after 4 pool rush -did good muta raid Things the opponent didn’t do well -produced guardians -ultras seems to be not upgraded well
To be fair, the vulture run by was not a big W for Artosis, he got 10 kills, 3 of which were drones i think. and 7 lings. thats about 325 mineral, right? And he lost 2 vultures just to get in, making a loss of about 225 minerals.
Artosis only had 1 base mining at a time while zerg had 3 up at one point. Artosis never broke 100 supply, and stuck to marine science vessel even in the ultras.
I think the micro at the start could've been a tad cleaner. If he had saved 2 more SCVs even, that would've been 7 instead of a 5, 40% increase in your economy, probably would've been enough to topple him.
Yeah, this is the remaster. It's only like 10.00$ I think and honestly it's the best remaster I think I've ever played. It's so faithful to the old game and changes absolutely nothing but the textures.
@@awizardwithwords994 Is it the same exact gameplay, only the graphics have been enhanced? Or are there more control similar to SC2? I loved SC1 but that was like 15 years ago.
RIP 9 kill vulture, wasn't space medal of honor but solid space silver star tier, hope space colonel arty remembered to posthumously award him after he evaced and rage nuked from orbit
4 pool is still a real strategy in skilled play, just seen less often because it's really punishable if it fails. Especially on a big map like this. Zerg got lucky he was vs artosis and not a good terran player.
seems like it would have been better if he got a few defilers though, but yeah thats true. And he wouldn't be at the rank he is I think if he only did 4 pools
Thank God for u I love to watch your videos one to three times a week starcraft 1 is amazing. I should be around to keep watching for about 80 to 150 years so keep it up
The difference between a good player and an average player. The good player doesn't over do marines in a critical situation, scv and tech, whereas the average player, makes 2 bunkers, 1000 marines and die against sunken defense. The gg always makes me lift my buildings to the corner and the map and go for a shit while the other player spends 10 minutes killing my buildings.
I must admit that besides the guardians that zerg was very good even prepared with a queen and this terran player is not enough aware of his vessels and lost a lot of them in stupid ways.
Wrong bunker placement due to wrong supply placement and lack of early factory then more vultures was needed overall all-in failed but killed enough SCV and structures to make equal start and Artosis don't know how to play Terran.
Oh man.. this is exactly why I think Terrans needs to utilize mines more often against Zerg.. maybe that last run in would've been absolutely smashed if there were some of those lying around
I wish SC2 had the unit AI but the pace of brood war, when you get the mechanics down and play you get so many cool micro battles that don't destroy your macro too fast, that early vulture was so fun to watch, I never see anything like that on SC2 its just too fast
I know what you mean, the "pace" of battles feel slower in sc1, in sc2 you look away Abit things just disappear lol I wish there was qol improvements of sc2 with the unit size and collision and ttk of sc1
@@Necroneer Hi, I am sorry to say, I have too big lag on Korean server to play games. So far I am playing on Europe server with 1900 mmr cheesing every single game with cca 70% winrate. I crushed some very good players so I think I stand a good chance vs Artosis. As far as I know, Artosis has one AKA even on european server too so it might not be all lost. If I ever play him, I will let you know :)
4 pool got nerfed really hard when they increased price of Spawning Pool by 33 percent. Artosis sometimes doesn't understand the other factions well enough and memes about it. I really like the FFA commentary though. It is neat to take a look at those old maps sometimes.
That early unit control and science vessel counter to the muta's was actually a work of art man, that first irradiate was beautiful. The fact you held him on 2 base with just pure micro was amazing, I've never tried out science vessel/marine/medic in T v Z but I'm so keen to now!
@@lastword8783 I've only recently returned to SC1 and honestly the current meta is awesome to watch, been slowly getting some games in and re-learning :)
Seriously? He had no chance to win at any point of the game... i mean, at least with his micro skills.. he cant micro his vulture, cant micro his marines, cant even irradiate a fuckin huge ultralisk.. all those vessels for scourges, omg
the build is called 4drone and it often gets referred to impregnating someone before marriage due to the speed and the surprise aspect of the build by the bw community (ex-pro and amateur streamers) in korea. failing the build makes it almost impossible to recover but artosis panicked and lost so much lol
Artosis is garbage at this game why does he think he can win off of just 2 bases every match he just turtles with one expand while the enemy has like 6
You really need to defend your science vessels, I have never ever seen this many get killed by scourge due to pure negligence. You played the mid to late game very badly and there were plenty of opportunities to macro better and expand. You couldn't get an economy going for 28 minutes and lost, no surprise there.
that was not a classic build, usually when 4 pool fails zerg is dead, that was evil going for mutas right after. Also olmost had a heart attack from lack of marines being built after that first 6 ling attack
Actually, why does he joke in 2:10 that one drone is a 25% of Zerg's economy? He didn't scout that zerg out yet so he couldn've known he was 4pooling. Is Atosis cheating or stream sniping? Or is there another way he figured it out?
with this all minerals and gas for vessels if u making instead Wraith the was yours this are 2x 12 Wraith minimum with clock he literaly cant beat them with nothing
The game was actually very relaxed and easy for the zerg. And he played ok, basically refusing to get an easy kill with defilers. So much sault from Arty, it's hilarious.
![Snow With 200/200 Scouts Vs. Artosis [TRANSLATED]](/img/n.gif)
The more Artosis I watch, the more and more sense it makes that him and IdrA are/were good friends
The old Media chat channel must have been wild (artosis, idra, incontrol, and others)
Ah IdrA. Miss that guy lol
The difference is Idra knew how to play... artosis cant even micro a vulture against drones or his marines
@@Yukio87 yo that was horrible to watch. I remember there were some real good funmaps to practice that micro back in the days
@@Yukio87 Knowing how to play and executing it are two completely different things. Artosis knows how to play, its his literal career to know starcraft in and out.
This Goliath play was truly impressive.
He didnt get range.... i think thats what did him in
He didn't even make an armory. How are you supposed to win without weapon upgrades?
... and the legends say that that his barracks is still burning to this very day
This is fiiiine
Hahaha smart Ass lol
Still burning in 2024.
Getting science vessel energy before irradiate because he was waiting for his starport to rebuild was actually really clever and fast thinking.
It was ey?
One of the best goliath build I've seen!
I'm so glad he posted this even though he lost
Spoilers x.x
19:30 c’mon man, it’s not worth losing three vessels just to get a couple irradiates off. The chance will come when there’s marine support
i called it before it happened, it was obvious what the zerg was doing.
Yea, he lost so many vessels going around alone
I felt the same! He got aggravated when he lost those vessels at the end and all i could say is well thats why you dont chase ultras around the map...i honestly think he wouldve won if he didnt get tunnel visioned on that. That was atleast 2 minutes worth of just following ultras lol
i feel the same but im just a noob. I always thought keeping the vessels alive and casting spells was a kind of mini game in TvZ that decided the match. i thought arty sacs his vessels too often but idk.
@@Roxxigaro yeah your absolutely right the whole point is to keep your first vessels alive the entire game, energy is a huge resource that takes time to charge
Artosis complained about this 4pool till the end of the stream. In fact I think he mentioned it in the following one, too.
That's why I much prefer his casting over watching him play the game.
@@Medabee8 Heh, nowadays I have a pretty much opposite view. After watching his stream too much I can't take his casts seriously anymore. Each time I try to listen to them I keep hearing at the back of my head him making a "guy in chat" impression or complaining how all the races that players play as are terrible to play against.
@@VieneLea that’s the whole point isn’t it? the entertainment value it brings.
@@Medabee8 I mainly watch tastosis casts but I must say.. in a way his toxic attitude is somewhat fun. Lately been watching more of his games / stream.
@@Medabee8 4 pool and 6 pool are bad.
Flash would have won.
with the SCVs at the beginning lol
wonder if scouting scv could pull off a proxy factory after base was stabilized
flash wouldve also won the rematch
Flash would've known it was a 4 pool
Flash would have 4-pooled the zerg back somehow.
So much for Goliath build!
yeah once those vermin came jumpin around his base lol
Artosis did good for a D+ player
Man he looks so stressed out. How the hell do people play this game?
He is one of the most bad manner, bad tempered, arrogant player I have seen. Not all of us are like that.
I assume you dont play competitive mode in any games? That is the appeal. Mobas, rts, mmos have very pasionate people that enjoy the challenge but also rage at the not so good outcome. It is a cycle. He will lose some he will win some.
Have to add, winning a "hard game" like this one would have been one of the most satisfying wins of the day because he conquered the challenge and beat the odds. That is the appeal of competitive games.
@@elian958 The only fact you put this comment makes you an arrogant and bad manner person. Not all of us, who are you and why you think you can speak for us?
To OP, you havent seen people smashing their console controls because Dark Souls, and that game is not even half hard as this at competitive level.
What exactly is the purpose of bringing all your science vessels to the zerg’s base without any support to let them get killed with scourge?
I would think you would want to keep the costly vessels alive longer so that they can build up energy and keep irradiating. Doesn’t seem worth it to let a vessel die so you can cast an irradiate on an ultralisk, let alone letting 4 of them die the same way. Seems very strange.
Hindsight 20/20
Ah, guy in the chat’s cousin: guy in the comments
and an irradiate doesn't even completely kill an ultra
His biggest weakness is getting tunnel vision. He lost an couple of vessels when zerg split his army and went separate ways. It was an obvious trap.
All you need to do to take Artosis down is to piss him off and lure him into over committing.
the offensive gg was the icing on the trashcake
Do you like what you see
nope
The dude who photoshops the massive bags under your eyes out of your promo shots deserves a raise.
He actually prolonged it and was close to making a comeback on multiple occasions after such a terrible start. Very fun back and forth game.. when Artosis killed the 3rd I thought he is gonna make it!
Yeah, I thought the zerg will harras the main again but instead decided tu put 10 sunkens lol. Artosis could win but didn't destroy the 3th gas
he could've won if he pushed the main and just made 3 marines run in first shielded by science vessel
In what reality could he win? He had 1 mining base the whole game, his supply never reached 100, and Zerg was toying with him like a cat with a trapped terrified mouse. :)
@@nikolaipasko Zerg's natural could have been broken. The dude had nothing except a few mutalisks. There was maybe 1 or 2 extra sunkens at the natural than the 3rd. If he kills the natural the game is over.
**zerg giggles**
edit: oh god I lost it when he started typing XD
Things the opponent did well
-runned his base quite effectively after 4 pool rush
-did good muta raid
Things the opponent didn’t do well
-produced guardians
-ultras seems to be not upgraded well
I doubt zerg played a serious game here.
8:20 That vulture deserved a freaking medal.
For real that was insane
To be fair, the vulture run by was not a big W for Artosis, he got 10 kills, 3 of which were drones i think. and 7 lings. thats about 325 mineral, right? And he lost 2 vultures just to get in, making a loss of about 225 minerals.
He did nothing besides micro the vulture for a full minute.. 1k min build up.
"2400"
as a zerg player i must admit..
going 4pool to muta every second game!
good strat!
29:04 Resources: 45k vs 27k
Artosis only had 1 base mining at a time while zerg had 3 up at one point. Artosis never broke 100 supply, and stuck to marine science vessel even in the ultras.
I can't belive artosis would let Jimmy James Raynor die like that
I think the micro at the start could've been a tad cleaner. If he had saved 2 more SCVs even, that would've been 7 instead of a 5, 40% increase in your economy, probably would've been enough to topple him.
Wow, SC1 still looks really fun after all these years. Is this the enhanced version?
Yes, “remastered”, and SC1 is the beat game of all time.
Yeah, this is the remaster. It's only like 10.00$ I think and honestly it's the best remaster I think I've ever played. It's so faithful to the old game and changes absolutely nothing but the textures.
@@awizardwithwords994 Is it the same exact gameplay, only the graphics have been enhanced? Or are there more control similar to SC2? I loved SC1 but that was like 15 years ago.
@@freddyfourfingerz9126 it's the same exact gameplay as the original, there's a mod for sc2 with the sc1 campaign.
SC Remastered is $15
That infested cc OMEGALUL
Didn`t noticed that, haha
"Don't mind me just gonna steal and float your CC away real quick"
patroll was faster than atack move? for doing micro volture? or iam wrong ?
Yes, always patrol it will shoot instantly even behind your vult
Was Terran for a too long time only on one base?
RIP 9 kill vulture, wasn't space medal of honor but solid space silver star tier, hope space colonel arty remembered to posthumously award him after he evaced and rage nuked from orbit
30 min 4 pool game? Interesting.
honestly zerg was pretty good. Most zergs play bad if the 4 pool fails.
yup, this zerg knew what to do, great Mutalisk micro then went into waves of Ultralisks to prevent Arty from expanding.
4 pool is still a real strategy in skilled play, just seen less often because it's really punishable if it fails. Especially on a big map like this. Zerg got lucky he was vs artosis and not a good terran player.
seems like it would have been better if he got a few defilers though, but yeah thats true. And he wouldn't be at the rank he is I think if he only did 4 pools
@@BobJason1 LOL
@@BobJason1 LMFAO
so salty at the end LOL i have not laughed like this in a week. Thanks artosis you are the best
Wow that Zerg player is really good! Artosis needs to practice more
Thank God for u I love to watch your videos one to three times a week starcraft 1 is amazing. I should be around to keep watching for about 80 to 150 years so keep it up
are you a protoss?
Are you negative 50 years old?
@@danm2084 I was waiting for somebody to say that 🤣🤣😂 lift weights eat healthy technology advances we'll see what happens I'm pushing for 150 🤗
@@environmenteller4442 So 15 years old.. Got ya
He wouldve won this if he went ghosts.
The difference between a good player and an average player. The good player doesn't over do marines in a critical situation, scv and tech, whereas the average player, makes 2 bunkers, 1000 marines and die against sunken defense.
The gg always makes me lift my buildings to the corner and the map and go for a shit while the other player spends 10 minutes killing my buildings.
Can you take a lot of shit in one day..
Well, on the bright side, you have a good idea of what to do now just in case your opponents do/did a 4pool, right? 😐👍
Bad manner gg
I can’t be the only one who thinks Arty’s scv splits are incredibly noob for how high his playing level is
Cuz he is a bad player.
I'm getting chills right now.....
I have seen Arty win out of a mined out base with no expansion so many times now
I must admit that besides the guardians that zerg was very good even prepared with a queen and this terran player is not enough aware of his vessels and lost a lot of them in stupid ways.
Hey Lilith are you a Terran player? I think I played with you
I enjoy the games where it isn’t Marines and Medics doing the great map crossing while fighting Mutalisks
hes not using a hotkey for stim
Isn't 4pool supposed to be all-in? How did the game drag for so long lol
Wrong bunker placement due to wrong supply placement and lack of early factory then more vultures was needed overall all-in failed but killed enough SCV and structures to make equal start and Artosis don't know how to play Terran.
Oh man.. this is exactly why I think Terrans needs to utilize mines more often against Zerg.. maybe that last run in would've been absolutely smashed if there were some of those lying around
Couldnt't afford the switch back to vultures and hope to have any meaningful army.
Why didnt he make a bunker as soon as he saw the super early drone scout?
or send second scv to check corner and possibly scout lings at the very least, i thought that was standard on cheesy ladder
Look at the difference in resources at the end
This game was very far from close :)
Styling on the workers and lings with that one vulture was so smooooth.
I've heard of sore loser but this is first time seeing a sore winner
I played my first ranked in SC I
yesterday. was Rushed by 5 or 6 Mutalisk...alt+f4
its hard to reward this behaviour but its so damn good
Why does the barrack was kept flying?
would have won 1000% by continuing a standart mm build expand instead of cuting scv on a small count to make a factory
15:09 when he landed that irradiate i felt vindicated
Like why not just make m&m after the failed 4 pool?
7:45 hero Vulture
so w8 why early vultures if he ends up going bio anyway?
He even got the fast mines and vulture speed, was that really worth it?
It's what we in the biz call a "flash wouldn't have invested like that"
I didn't realize until almost 17 minutes and I was like that he's still on one base and pressuring hard.
I wish SC2 had the unit AI but the pace of brood war, when you get the mechanics down and play you get so many cool micro battles that don't destroy your macro too fast, that early vulture was so fun to watch, I never see anything like that on SC2 its just too fast
i dont know, having the fastest unit in the game also be ranged seems a bit strange for the meta, i personally prefer sc2
I know what you mean, the "pace" of battles feel slower in sc1, in sc2 you look away Abit things just disappear lol
I wish there was qol improvements of sc2 with the unit size and collision and ttk of sc1
That may as well have been a win. Incredible play.
Nah, after the successful rush it was inevitable. No matter how much Arty would like to think otherwise.
Why does the burning building sound like wood burning even though it’s clearly all metal?
"catch someone who never goes factory" I LAUGHED OUT LOUD. He goes factoryevery game
irradiates on ultras were doing more harm than good
I downloaded sc remastered 2 days ago. What server is Artosis playing on? I wanna cheese him so much
Korean server
Tell me how it went.
@@Necroneer Hi, I am sorry to say, I have too big lag on Korean server to play games. So far I am playing on Europe server with 1900 mmr cheesing every single game with cca 70% winrate. I crushed some very good players so I think I stand a good chance vs Artosis. As far as I know, Artosis has one AKA even on european server too so it might not be all lost. If I ever play him, I will let you know :)
@@Adam-go7cz :D
I was so rooting for Arty to punish him..anyway 4 pool really reminded me my first SC multiplayer experience, its just brain dead strategy
It's not nearly as bad as early zealots
4 pool got nerfed really hard when they increased price of Spawning Pool by 33 percent. Artosis sometimes doesn't understand the other factions well enough and memes about it. I really like the FFA commentary though. It is neat to take a look at those old maps sometimes.
4 pool is a legit strat. If terran can’t defend against it, it’s his problem
Artosis cares less about his science vessels than he does his marines. Also did he ever got +3 attack upgrade?
takes character to post this one, screw that guy for the bm gg
What is the point of APM if action doesnt do anything, useless clicking... From your apm how many of those are actual actions and not empty clicks?
how the fuck do you get outexpanded by a 4pool
WHY IS HE ONEBASING???
That early unit control and science vessel counter to the muta's was actually a work of art man, that first irradiate was beautiful. The fact you held him on 2 base with just pure micro was amazing, I've never tried out science vessel/marine/medic in T v Z but I'm so keen to now!
Science vessel is in every tvz. Its a must have.
@@lastword8783 ^
@@lastword8783 I've only recently returned to SC1 and honestly the current meta is awesome to watch, been slowly getting some games in and re-learning :)
He should play aoe2 and micro out all the pro players there...aoe2 micro is kids play compared to this.
@@ogs_Boga1900 doesnt day9 play that? How good is he at it?
If only salt could kill zerg.
1 base vs 3 base. Survives 4 pool, multiple muta savagery. Epic game for sure.
is it a 6 pool
No has to be 4
Lol that infest at the end
Is infesting considered BM in SC1?
Not bad manner just bad
Infesting at end game when you know you've won is like teabagging
Infesting in general is legit tactic outside of that though
@@TheKnightOfSmite No, it's like a final nail in the coffin.
You should mix in BBS sometimes.. a win is a win
Honestly a sick game from arty
He did really well considering he was on 1 base most of the game
Seriously? He had no chance to win at any point of the game... i mean, at least with his micro skills.. he cant micro his vulture, cant micro his marines, cant even irradiate a fuckin huge ultralisk.. all those vessels for scourges, omg
his little whine session at the end was funny
Some times you practice what the enemy and the terrain allows... Let us hope for the arrival of the next Goliath build!!
If you know 4 pool is a thing why don't you start the barrack first and sacrifice half a drone?
the build is called 4drone and it often gets referred to impregnating someone before marriage due to the speed and the surprise aspect of the build by the bw community (ex-pro and amateur streamers) in korea. failing the build makes it almost impossible to recover but artosis panicked and lost so much lol
i am not good at SC, what happened to zerg player? what make artosis so angry
the goliath build is lookin spicey
19:05 I bow to you king.
At which point did he almost lose lol? Clearly the guy was goofing around at that point.
It wouldn't be an Artosis game if he didn't lose in the end :D
but if the "worst sc player ever" beats you, what does that make you...?
exactly :)
Too be fair to artosis the guy did bm him first by calling gg
Artosis is garbage at this game why does he think he can win off of just 2 bases every match he just turtles with one expand while the enemy has like 6
28:15 OMEGALUL!!!
You really need to defend your science vessels, I have never ever seen this many get killed by scourge due to pure negligence. You played the mid to late game very badly and there were plenty of opportunities to macro better and expand. You couldn't get an economy going for 28 minutes and lost, no surprise there.
that was not a classic build, usually when 4 pool fails zerg is dead, that was evil going for mutas right after. Also olmost had a heart attack from lack of marines being built after that first 6 ling attack
Game would nearly be perfectly balanced by making mutas normal. Maybe also by making energy regenerateslower.
Actually, why does he joke in 2:10 that one drone is a 25% of Zerg's economy? He didn't scout that zerg out yet so he couldn've known he was 4pooling. Is Atosis cheating or stream sniping? Or is there another way he figured it out?
"10%" is what he says
He said its 10%, not 25%. He's assuming ~10 drones, not 4.
Is this a joke post? How could he have 6 lings before marine if it wasn't a 4pool?
Which merc should I buy first, the 1001 excuses cup or the unlucky one?
with this all minerals and gas for vessels if u making instead Wraith the was yours this are 2x 12 Wraith minimum with clock he literaly cant beat them with nothing
The game was actually very relaxed and easy for the zerg. And he played ok, basically refusing to get an easy kill with defilers.
So much sault from Arty, it's hilarious.
did he stay on one base the entire time out of spite or something. artosis isn't the best macro player but he usually isn't this averse to expanding
Why BM, Artosis?