Too much wind to dock!
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- Yacht Anymi trying to dock with high winds (Altea 2021)
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Impressive on the Capt for swallowing his pride and not risking damage to his and other boats around. That could have gotten ugly.
Been a captain for 3 years, cannot tell you how hard it is to focus with people speaking to you al the time. Great decisions made by the captain
Fair play for having the balls to back out but he was fairly heavy on the throttles, it wasn’t a calm situation.
The windage on that large Yacht is amazing it spun him around in the channel . I don't get why the crew was standing up on the bridge and not preparing the dock lines & anchor .
That is what I call a smart man ( if it don’t fit don’t force it) go back out and nothings torn up 💪🏾👌🏽
This seems like owner operated as well, props for not panicking too hard!
Docking in high wind is incredibly difficult. Plus they are doing it in a nice yacht that you can't scratch or deliberately bash into the dock with like you could with a working boat.
anyway must give credits to the Captain of knowing when you are over your head, and not just trying to dock and cause damage for no reason. Good call to go missed approach here.
Challenging, but not impossible. As a former ships captain you learn to use the wind, engine, rudders, bow and stern lines and if needed, your anchor to your advantage. This shouts 'inexperience'.
@Neil Foster= Granted you have much experience, but maybe not in the right places.
In many Med harbors, anchoring is strictly forbidden - and for good reason : these harbors are narrow, and the bow mooring hawsers go from a deadweight in the middle of the harbor to the quay via a messenger line. Anchoring in these harbors is a sure way to get in trouble…
You comment “shouts inexperience” about docking in that kind of a Med harbor.
@@christianfournier6862 I do have a LOT of experience, I do fully accept your comment. True, I have never docked in a Med port, but equally some docks and harbours where I have docked have also been frighteningly narrow. But, I did a lot of docking with an ex Royal Navy captain. Practice in as many different moorings and weather conditions as possible, and confidence will come with that. Each vessel is different, a switched on deck crew is the biggest asset a skipper can have.
My party piece was turning a 200 ton ex RN ship (single 4 bladed prop) around 180 degrees within it's own length using ONLY the engine.
And if it comes to it and is ABSOLUTELY necessary, you drop that anchor no matter what or where, trouble will get sorted out afterwards. (Not for mooring, only braking, emergency turning etc). Correct, you don't ever anchor up in or close to an active channel or fould ground.
Siempre es mejor esperar un mejor momento, que liarla parda,like amigo!
Totalmente!
Good call by the Captain. Sometimes, what you want to do, just isn't doable. Docking in high winds can be really hard, and there is no reason to ram it home and damage your own boat and other boats, just to get tied up to the dock.
Tremendo, casi se la pega, like amigo 😍😍😍!!!
Gracias! 😊
What, cool control, me like it!
Sea conditions dictate whether the vessel is capable of docking. Anchors are there for a reason
I was going to make a smart a$$ comment, but you make a good point. Use your tools.....
Anchor in a marina blocks and chains??
@@panaspanos3319 Some marinas are bowline mooring only. If there is zero swing room, drop an anchor off the stern can save a lot of expensive contact with other vessels or harbour walls or jettys.
Been there done that. Captain did great just not hitting anything. Never again without thrusters.
to be fair thats some strong wind!
Muy interesante, like amigo!!!
Gracias y saludos
Tricky situation. Would be helpful to know wind strength in the marina and a little more about the skipper/crew. He had a look, tried to line her up, concluded it wasn’t safe, backed off and made the difficult decision to leave. I’d love to hear the skippers thoughts and what he learnt.
He was not going to dock. He didnt have anyone on the bow to do the ground lines.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks!
Hi Javier . Great video . I was really confused where the Captain was trying to dock he was "all over the place" . Mark (Toronto) ✌
Thanks, apparently, although it was in good position, it receives a strong gust of lateral wind, which makes the final approach to the pier impossible ...
He had it! But tomorrow is another day. 💯
The captain did the right thing withdrawing. Having said that, very odd they there did not seem to be any attempt to pass a line from the boat ashore, the tender could assisted passing the line.
Docking in cross wind is difficult.
As owner of a similar MY and familiar with Altena Marina I say, the Captain has no experience. He could not had make it bader. Let the wind work for you and not against you. The only secret for easy docking.
Couldn't agree more, use the wind to help you, not try & fight against it. Always keep your nose up wind & as you back it the wind will align your vessel to your path, you don't need a bow or stern thruster but can help if you have one. Good on the captain for knowing his limitations, that would be a hard boat to berth at the best of times with out cameras or walkie-talkies to experienced crew. Good crew & communication can make a poor captain look good & vice versa, windage, visibility & that sort of crowded docking in strong winds would test the best captains. Gotcha Covered Covered
An outstanding piece of seamanship (not just boat-driving) by the captain. He endeavoured to berth but the conditions including the berth at right angles to the wind made it too risky (note the way the stern started to round up into the wind as the boat went astern). I note also that he had plenty of power and was not afraid to use it. Another point. The high bulwarks and freeboard of boats like Anymi make line-handling etc from deck very difficult. Lower may have made it possible to veer the weather anchor and use the tender as an engine tug on the port quarter with a hawser passed. Regardless, solid seamanship and a welcome change
Good call! Shallow drought, lots of windage, and a few billions worth of yachts around a tight maneuvering space given the size of vessel and these weather conditions. What’s the point of pushing it when so many things can go wrong? I didn’t see any wash from the thruster(s) either, even though there might be in the shadow of the vessel and not visible. But if they were available, wouldn’t he use them to pivot the boat? It could be he had to dock with the engines only, in which case it was really mission impossible.
in this type of wind a boaw truster doesnt help alot. it really dosent have the power to turn the boat against the wind. using two engines is alot more effectiv. i know this cause i speak from experience owning a 50 fot vessel.
Agree with “Buoy oh buoy”.
In addition, the designated docking place was downwind, which meant that any imprecision in the maneuver would end with the boat thrust against the quay (or another boat) with no way to back off.
As for a bow thruster, my guess is that there was none (or it was unserviceable) since if there had been an operating bow thruster the skipper would have used it while pivoting in the harbor - as a means of testing its efficiency against the side wind.
Some bow thrusters may be more powerful than that on “edythiel”’s 50’ boat, but in any event one cannot be sure a bow thruster will cope in a strong side wind without testing it.
Conclusion : a wise decision to abort the 2nd docking attempt.
Lack of experience and windy. Upon aborting the captain could have done a better job keeping the stern into the wind and hold it there rather than pivoting which took him sideways. Maybe easier said than done as I do this on a regular basis in strong currents.
Okay CAPTAIN
Needed to get on the power. Thrusters are no match for aggressive use of the props. But always safer to anchor out when in doubt.
I used to dock in a 6 knot cross current every day. In on power, at about 5 knots slam reverse and power up to dead stop in 5 feet while crew throws perfect lines
Una decision inteligente, mejor esperar que calme, buen video amigo, like!!
Gracias! 😊
He had it! All he needed to do was to back the port engine and thrust the starboard engine and she would have lined up in the slip, then thrust them both aft and you’re there. Bad crew coordination, I saw no aft dock lines being prepared to toss ashore and no one on the dock to help secure the lines. Bad decision making and poor planning equals bad seamanship,
Good video
Thanks!
He is not even taking a line to the bow or anchoring while backing up. In a weather like this where bow thrusters are useless, I would take this approach. He was probably not really sure about docking at first place. Just wanted to give it a go inside the marina and test the waters.
This is incompetent seamanship. The boat has twin engines, bow thrusters and the marinero is there to help with his tender. As a captain myself I have docked in much tighter spaces and much worse conditions. The captain here does not have enough experience demonstrated by the aggressive way he applied power. The only thing he did right was to exit when he realised he was out of his depth. But he shouldn’t have been at the helm of this boat in the first place if he didn’t have the ability to execute this manoeuvre
En ese puerto es muy complicado atracar, y mas si hace mucho viento, like !
Gracias!
Not to much wind, it’s too little experience!
Says a person on a keyboard. In fact this proves he is experienced enough to know when to abort attempt and come back when captain is more comfortable with conditions. Everyone has there strength and weakness, but the true masters won’t let outside pressures make there weaknesses cost them.
Both right. Not enough experience to get it done, but enough experience to say: That's to hard right now for me.
Too little experience commenting about boats. You are deeply wrong. That captain did the right thing.
@@666impreza666 so if there is too much wind you can't enter the harbor according to you, hope you don’t have a boat.
@@buddtwin2 a good captain can dock in all circumstances, it was a right discussion of him to back out but what if the wind stays for a week?
Glad he wasn't close to my boat!Don't confuse balls with hubris.
That’s not too much wind…simply an owner who doesn’t know how to maneuver his boat.Pitiful skills!
Sb achter een lijn op de wal en rustig naast het andere schip moeten afmeren evt een anker uit brengen klaar ?
A smart captain knows when to abort before causing damage when a maneuver is not in his grasp.
I'm skeptical. Seems like the wind was max 30 knots in gusts. I think skipper needs more practice and this was good training.
From the flags It can be seen wind not really string when he decided to go in. I think the capt still have a slightly chance to dock it if he put the boat stern more to starboard against the wind and let the wind push the boat slowly to align with dock space before he go stright astern. But after all gpod decision too
Bow thruster?
Not to windy , poor captain I think 🤔
I think you have never set foot on a boat. There are some docking situations where it is simply best to go back out, drop anchor, and wait it out. This was one of those situations.
I'm a sailor, and I'm saying it can't be done. But prove me wrong... if you were captain, what would YOUR strategy be? How would YOU handle that wind, and tie up your boat?
@@xs10z hello for a starters I wouldn’t have fucked around so slowly and given the wind a chance to catch me and over take my momentum , you can clearly see the captain was flustered and pulling any old levers because he didn’t know what else to do , wind looks like all of 20 -25 knots , don’t get your panties in a knot , and I live full time aboard , if you don’t want to be judged then don’t put up videos to watch on you tube
hayatta hiç böyle vazgeçme hakkım olmadı ve iş arıyorum, inanılmaz.
Why a mooring buoy is nice, not enough places have them. Could also drop anchor in the bay and use a tender. I don't think he really has a proper tender though. Someone helping with bow and stern line would be great. A Marina dock hand is sometimes great. Never one around when you need one. Good job not hitting anything
Shoulda driven faster and whipped the yacht around in super tight spaces a bit more. Maybe even run over a few more anchor lines. That woulda helped for sure. Screw “Speed Kills”, I’m all about “Speed Thrills”, baby!
New to boating so I may be off base here... it seems that there was too much power at the props during the maneuver, with high winds should he have gone much slower? I might be side-line QB'ing here. Well, it's a good thing he call it before hitting the other boats.
Going too slow the wind would have even more effect. There’s a balance between too much and not enough. Boats like that catch the wind very easily and don’t have a lot of draft. Difficult to dock in certain situations. Some thrusters aren’t powerful enough to overcome the effects of sturdy wind and current. Often times used to finesse the vessel. I’ve never driven anything that large but I know from my experience with 33 to 36 footers it’s a lot harder than it looks with both wind and current at play, especially when you have nothing to tie to except the stern and anchor. It was hard enough for me with just pylons on both sides at the bow and dock at the rear. Just my opinion. Some folks on here have a mighty high opinion of themselves when they’ve never been in anything bigger than a ski boat on a lake and you can tell by their comments. Salt water boating is hard from the time you untie until you tie back up and power off and it requires all your attention. Could this CPT have done things better? Probably but at the end of the day, he didn’t damage his boat or anyone else’s boat so there’s nothing wrong with his decision to abort and do or go somewhere else.
That was not high wind at all. Total incompetency. That boat has 2 props + bow thruster. He got into a panic and started applying too much power which scared him. He nearly had it the 1st time .. the should have just used low power settings and let the wind do the work.
Poor skipper. Should have been able to dock in these conditions. What is he going to do when the wind is really blowing?
He did a great job he didn’t damage anything. I’m sure you weren’t there to know how high the wind was
It’s not difficult and they have bow prop so they just have to practice
This should be called not enough engine and prop to dock
Bow/stern thrusters?? Doesn't seen like he's using them if the boat has em
Far too close to the boat to see the manouvering and where it sits in relation to the buoys and the docks.
Med mooring is a pain in the butt! But yes. Hard to tell from the video but it looked like he had it there and then stopped his stern way too soon. Also these vessels have a lot of windage ( like a sail up) and little lateral resistance underneath. But a really skilled skipper could have docked her.
I think most skippers that have travelled the world would agree the med is one of the best/calmest place for boating that there is!
Umm. I think the reference is to the mooring technique known as med mooring. And it is very difficult in windy conditions with high superstructure.
What an incompetent skipper/helmsman. Sheesh!
If you have a bow thruster like this boat did and cannot dock in a light breeze then time for a new captain.
Absolutely. The key is to secure the starboard stern to the dock without worrying about where the bow is going. After the bow starboard is fast to the dock, you can bring the bow around using the thrusters. There were no crew mates near where the vessel should've been made fast to the dock. There are areas where you can experience this type of wind while simultaneously dealing with a tide running at 5knot or more.
Seamanship is very more important than skills.
Because you guys are experts at handling a boat of this size, right? Let’s see your videos of you docking in a wind with your boat of this size.
@@bks252 My boat is only a 42' but I have no bow thruster and can dock in anything up to 40mph with no problems. These big boats have bow thrusters which means that a skilled captain can dock in any wind. But you would not know that because you don't have any boat at all. Do you?
I bet Tristan from mv AWOL could have done it. Granted, not easy to do.
good decision
Too windy to dock, what's the alternative?
Wait.
Looks like some billionaire will be looking for a new Captain.
Where is the big wind? Look at the flag at the stern of the boat, it does not move, especially at the end of the video it is motionless. The flags above are waving but at her height there is practically no wind.
This are definitely no strong wind conditions.🤣 Based on the sea condition outside of the port it is 3-4 bft (16 knots). In the port it is even less.
You underestimate the wind. It's blowing off shore, so the sea conditions aren't an indication. But if heavy fenders move like that, it's for sure more than 25 knts.
Tough to do solo, but with 3 or 4 guys available to help with lines, it's easy. Just not a very skilled driver, like the vast majority of owner operators who use their boats a gin palaces.....
What a load of tosh - what wind there is if onto the stern not side on - he botched it and bottled it and notice - no bow line or anchor so what did he expect - nothing to hang on to !
Poco professionali gli ormeggiatori,con il tender avrebbero dovuto intervenire fermano la prora in modo da dare la possibilità di ormeggiare in piena sicurezza
Better not risk it, but my father would have kicked me for a lot less. It is useless to have such amazing boats if you can only go out with a calm
Funny how the comments are all over the map. He was good, he was terrible. I thought he came in kind of fast but other than that did fine. Best of all he didn't hit any boat or the dock.
Top Micha money, no skills
No thank you. ill keep my little 26 with twins. That's he-man shit there.
Parece puerto portals en mallorca
Realmente es Campomanes un puerto deportivo de Altea (Alicante)
When he gave it some petulant throttle near the end and got sideways in the channel he was running on pure luck he didnt hit anything, not a very good skipper imho
inexperienced fresh water captain..... give him a couple more years and he will dock that boat just like the rest of us, in 1 attempt! 😀
All right up to 2 meters from the pier then a mental blackout. Difficult to understand what happened, certainly wind is not the issue, it comes from the stern not strongly, the difficult thing had been done (not perfectly) but at the end...
Anchor until the wind calms down. It’s not rocket science.
Probably wery demanding guests and uncompentent crew,and captain got pissed,i didn't see anyone on shore to catch the ropes from marina ....they could dock ,but yea fuk it there's always tendie ,understandable .. good fking call
For all the megabucks they paid for this boat they didn't splurge on a bow thruster?
Gale force
You must face the real wind at the Greek Islands......this is nothing at all.......
If that is the captains day job he needs to give it up. Reversing into his mooring stern to wind should be a piece of piss. Then to allow the boat to go broadside to the wind in the channel is a rookie error.
Crap skills, not even that windy.
A real captain could have easily have docked there !
Wind was not the reason!!!
Is he a qualified skipper ?? dont seem to be to me ..........
Don't like this manouvring around like a car with big boats in tight harbours. He had only luck not hitting anything very costly when he he was turned around by the wind at the end. The wind blew out of the harbour, therefore:
1.) why not going in backwards for a start against the wind? So you must not make a dangerous turn around in tight harbour.
2.) missed all Preparations of the crew for docking. For instance standing at the right positions- stern and bow. Ready to threw a line when he was nearly docked perfectly at the end. Missed a Marinero at the Dock to fix his line.
3.) its the respondibility of the Skipper to organize his crew and the marineros for these duties.
Too much wind, are you kidding me? No, he is going too fast, and the crew is useless.
This is almost as bad as watching paint dry.
Hahaha the captain is not good its easy to park that yacht
Were you dropped on your head as a baby. Really really really dumb comment
buen video, Javier, lindo yate para dañarlo, pero igual creo que no estaba tan ventoso, creo que faltó gente en tierra para maniobrar las espias, y no habia ningun marino del yate ni preparado ni listo en popa para largar lineas, los capis no pueden hacerlo todo, aqui faltó coordinacion y mando, en fin, que lindo yate, ¿sabes que modelo es? no sé mucho de yates, yo soy de barco mercante, soy de la marineria tosca jajaj, saludos 😉
Gracias !
Thats not the Wind to blame .. Og you cant dock a Boat that size , you should not drive it at all..
Too much wind to dock? Ha ha ha! What a joke. Thousands of Horsepower and they can’t maneuver it in a little wind? What an amateur.
Boats this size are too big for inexperienced owners to operate themselves in my opinion. Money doesn’t make up for skill get a crew!
this so called skipper if you just watch what he is doing and more importantly what he is not doing he is way over his head a boat like this more than likely has all the control and power to each engine .bow and maybe stern thrusters and he cant do it with dock master trying to tell him also where he can dock evan just to wait out the so called high winds i have been on lake simcoe on a far more windy day than this looks on a 31ft cruiser this clown is just that and letting so many people get at him on the bridge also should never be allowed to happen no matter what
This guy isn’t experienced. I would not trust him on sea
Hire a proper captain!
Sorry to say, but this captain has just no clue how to do it proper. Only the speed when he enter the marina shows that. Ridiculous fast, jittery direction changes with always to much speed and thruster. Not the wind is to much, the captain is just inexperienced and bad. This guy don't know how to use the momentum.
It is not a matter of "momentum". The issue is, once he gets to the berth and lines it up, he'd be blown right out of it before he could tie up. He realized that once he was making his final approach. There is no way any captain no matter how skilled could dock in that slip in that weather, and his only mistake was perhaps not realizing that earlier... I suspect he had paying customers on board and wanted to at least go through the motions to demonstrate the futility of the situation before heading back out.
@@xs10z Lol, you're talking nonsense! I have seen much worse weather conditions and docking without an issue!
This guy has just no skills, that's all about. Enter to fast the marina, don't use the momentum, over-react with jittery direction changes and so on.
I agree...
@@famaccount479 yes...too fast!
Way too aggressive on speed and throttling. Let the wind take you in .
Well, i'm no Expert.
But seems like he needs to practice more handling this yacht.
Wind can be a bitch, but he was way too aggressive on the throttle when aborting.
This is not a real Captain of any vote.
gotta know when to bail...false pride dings boats...
Get trained
God, that was boring
I could of done it easy that's why owner s should not drive. Privet. Reverse against wind. Use wind to dick Boat. Bow thruster wake up amateur totally. Easy as pie. Those. Conditions were favorable. Pleases in a Marina. Lol