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6000 series wouldn't ever be in the Air btw, this was said by the CEO due to the space it takes up on the motherboard
the 64gb steam deck can be upgraded to a 512gb SSD for 55$.
Where's the link for the steam deck?
Rich Tomorrow: I put out some of the best contents when I am being ReviewTechUSA, not ReviewHorseCucumberChickenUSA. Let's get into another tech reviews.
Rich, the man that reviews tech in the USA... is reviewing tech in the USA???
Shocking isn't it?
In other news rain comes from clouds
Cringe
Be quiet.
this is madness!
It's always great when ReviewTechUSA reviews tech in USA.
The best thing about the Steam deck is SteamOS it works way better on a portable than windows
I missed my steam deck pre order due to a death in the family. The universe really knows how to stick it to you when youre down.
@homebrewGT At this point, when my new reservation comes around, the deck 2 will probably be out. Its kind of absurd that i had to wait like 7 months and now ive gotta wait another 6 months. I kinda dont even care anymore and am tempted to just buy a switch lite. I dont think i care as much as i thought although tis cool. If i didnt have to wait so long, maybe. The fact that i can just go to the store and buy the lite, is quite appealing atm.
Yeah SteamOS also seems to run more efficient than Windows too, though one could argue anything in Linux runs betters than Windows.
@@TheBlargMarg Linux is crap we all know that
@@jonathansoko1085 well depends on what games u want to play, but I have all the versions of the switch and I gotta say the lite's battery life sucks. It is Hella cheap though so u can pick one up as u wait for the steam deck. What I'm saying is the deck will last longer down the road literally and metaphorically speaking lol
I'm longing for.the day a handheld as powerful as this comes in the size and form factor of the PS Vita.
Psp 3000 and ps vita are some of the coolest looking handhelds
I feel like the switch OLED has the perfect screen size though. I just wish it got rid of even more bezels
@@mattflub not for me. It's the size of a tablet. The PS Vitas closer to a phone, which is perfect for me
@@overspray5281 literally timeless
This is one thing I'll never understand. Sure I'd like a device to be more portable but making the screen to small sucks all the enjoyment out of it for me... Screen size is about perfect on the steam deck I'd even be OK maybe add to the size a Lil... I don't ever see me using an ultra portable unless it comes with some AR glasses to "increase" screen size while still remaining super portable.
Your tech reviews are some of the best on this platform, I've said it once and I'll say it again. Do more!!!!!
Tech and horror stories. Can't get enough
I like the background music in this video Rich. It makes me want to comfortably play through my PS4, Switch and Steam backlog while being laid back and chill.
Thank you.
I love that i come back to this man every now and then and the rooster collection is just growing lol
I'm beginning to wonder if some of the performance discrepencies are due to Windows overhead.
I get the internals are not as good, but I wonder... once SteamOS is released officially into the wild, and if these devices get some support from Aya for SteamOS, would the performance improve? I am getting my Steam Deck in 3 days, I can't wait. I hope they continue to be competitive. I want this category to do well. Thanks Rich!!
No need to wonder anymore. This has always being fact.
I mean, seriously, which would be a better-performing gaming OS? the one designed to hold your hand all the way through the process of using it, or the one that prepares you seat and get out of the way?
Steam os is trash and would perform worse
Most likely it's RDNA2, which are currently Steam Deck exclusive.
Most of these games aren't running well because most of them aren 64 bit games so the all those games are gonna have hard time. with hard when code hasn't been made right run on those devices
Linux has way better drivers for AMD, and even Windows games on SteamOS via Proton often run faster than on Windows on a Steam Deck because of this (though not all of them, of course), so it would probably run better overall. Someone should try installing any decent GNU/Linux distro on this (not necessarily SteamOS).
Waiting for my steam deck arriving next week .
Birds have air... behind them... sometimes
Steam Deck should also have an OLED version.
Now I want to see how the Aya Neo compares with Linux installed. It would be interesting to see how it does with the lower overhead that the steam deck benefits from.
Tbh with you I think games would perform about the same, maybe slightly worse unless the games native to Linux then you mite get slightly better performance with good GPU drivers.
Allot of GPU drivers for Linux tend to be old unless you get some decent 3rd party ones. Ontop of that you always have to use Wine to emulate directx graphics. (Proton is built from the wine source).
That being said gaming on Linux has come such a long way. It's impossible to say how much Valve has done for the Linux gaming community. If the Steam deck continues to be successful maybe people will consider using Linux on other devices aswell. Especially with Microsoft's TPM 2.0 requirement as not everyone can afford to spend money on a new motherboard and CPU with those features. Linux mite be their only option to have a secure PC.
Linux is better then Windows. But windows gets more support.
Since getting a Steamdeck I find most of my games (non native Linux games) work better on Linux then on windows 😂 by about 10%
@@jjlyon100 Funny you say this, I saw a video earlier pointing out that the SteamOS can run games that modern Windows setups cannot. Something something 3D Acceleration working correctly, it's from gaming before my time with a PC, but it's worth chasing up.
@@LG1ikLx i have a steam deck and love the steam deck. it's a hand held pc and my living room pc for watching movies. it's great. but... linux needs a lot of help. there are certain convenient things that i can do with 2 or 3 clicks on windows but i can't do them for some stupid reason on linux. drives me nuts.
like shortcuts. i have a visual novel game i want to play that was fan translated and there are way too many files in the folder so i wanted to make a shortcut. i can't for the life of me figure out how. i'll probably have to watch a tutorial if it's possible.
another thing is i can't find a hardware monitor for outside of a game. i found one for inside a game but it's been so hot the past week i don't want to even watch movies if i don't know what the temp is lol. but other than that. i REALLY hope this brings linux into a more user friendly territory. cause i'll get the steam deck 2 on launch just like i got this one. it's such a useful machine.
Why? It's the inferior os that literally has no native game support.
FINALLY!! A review tech! Thanks rich the man that reviews tech. Too much bad news lately but still enjoy this channel.
Nice to see rich reviewing something. Keep doing what you do. Love your channel
Rich Tomorrow: My Steam Deck ate my Ayaneo, let's get into it.
I mean if nothing else its button layout is 100x better than the Steam Decks.
Been waiting for this comparison to drop. 👋
Hard to compare the Steamdeck to any of the other systems, because the deck is backed up by the largest online PC gaming store with multiple linking and streaming options.
So far ive steamlinked the Deck to my Phone.
Linked it to my PC.
Played my PC games through my deck.
Played my PC games through my phone.
Used a Steam Link device to play the deck on my dowmstairs TV.
Used remote play on both devices for multipler games.
You cant compare all that to any of these 3rd party similar items. Just like the Switch cant compare to them due to its Nintendo 1st party licensing.
the ayaneo runs steam, through windows. So it doesnt run into the asinine compatibility issues the Steam Deck does. I have a friend who currently owss both an ayaneo AND a steamdeck and he mostly uses the AN because most of the weebshit and RPGs he plays crap out on the SD, and some of the games that are marked "compatible dont work at all, such as one of the Captain Tsubasa soccer games.
@@popehentai has he tried using proton GE plugin? Its usually the go to solution to most problems
@@popehentai He may want to switch the Deck to desktop mode. That makes Steam act like the windows version of the app without the compatability stuff.
Use Proton GE if you still have compatability issues.
I'm thinking about a SteamDeck, can I connect a bluetooth keyboard for in-game chat?
@@mememaixiv3955 yes
Those are some nice birds… oh and fantastic review Rich. (Really though, I’m noticing your production quality going up and I love to see it)
Oh….my..god you finally doing tech again!! 😮😮
My Pro's battery life is horrendous and the right joystick is in the worst possible place possible for adult hands... I'm sticking with my Deck.
Sucks that 3rd Parties can't use the Custom AMD SoC that the Steam Deck uses. I think the whole market would benefit greatly.
That's the whole point of locking in exclusive hardware. Valve puts in a big order, so more more money up front, but they get to spend less money per chip and lock out the competition.
It'd be interesting to see valve work with these companies on making steam deck esc handhelds, It wouldn't be a conflict of interest since the point of the steam deck is to create an ecosystem and valve has connections to companies like amd that could help fully realize Aya's ideas at a cheaper cost with better performance.
Valve wanted to work with Ayaneo but they refused and called them and their OS dumb and said they're creating their own Linux OS for their Ayaneo line lol. Valve's actually working with other companies like GPD and putting SteamOS on their devices. Personally I don't think Ayaneo realizes just how much work time and money goes into creating and maintaining an OS if they can't even make their barebones software semi functional right now
Love the steam deck!
Thank you for that review Rich, I really appreciate it!! I got the 512 GB Steam Deck with the anti-reflective screen and I really like it; your review made me feel better about my decision to get the Steam Deck instead, because I found out about the AyaNeo Air and Air PRO just a couple of days after I purchased the Steam Deck, and I wasn't happy.
However, since I got said Steam Deck, I haven't been disappointed and having a bigger screen is always good, and the UI is smoother ;-)
Glad you made this video … I’ll be sticking with the steamdeck
Valves financial liberty thanks to the Steam store and eco-system will it always make difficult for third party manufacturers to offer a competitive pricing.
Rich, where were you last night? I fell asleep waiting for you to stream 😴.
I'm surprised rich didn't put peanut butter and jelly between them both and ate it. Awesome self control and discipline. Proud of you Rich.
What a legendary computer background you got there. Lol
My favorite part of this review was seeing DSP's face being reflected onto the AYANEO Air Pro.
1m rich, congratulations, im so proud of you
Nice review Mr. Rich. You really went deep in details in this review.👏
DEFINITELY GETTING A STEAM DECK
Steam deck is in a league of its own
It has a terrible screen tho
@@Pagaugezero the specs it has though... can't beat it.
Switch OLED if you want a good screen and Nintendo games
Steam Deck if you want the performance and PC games
AYA Neo Air/Pro for portability and better build quality
Yeah which isn't portable
@@Pagaugezero screen is perfectly fine
@@pandabearmadness6263 very portable I'm outside with it now
0:07 DSP Man Face reflection on the pro 🤣 Absolutely priceless
don't get me wrong. The Aya Neo does have some slight benefits like assetetetics and smaller form. the 400 steam deck still out performs the neo on the 1000 dollar model. It's like this: in my opinion, 1000 bucks should not be handheld territory, period. but more gaming desktop/laptop territory. That's why the steam deck seems more of not even just the price conscious choice here, but also better performance and logical choice hands down. Me personally, I'm happy with my switch so I wouldn't invest in a steam deck or Aya Neo at this price point. I'd assume just getting a gaming rig.
I rather just have a gaming laptop with a 3050ti for the same price or less than the ayeneo
Asthetics
Maybe if they shove more RGBs into the AYA Neo the thing might perform faster.
Asset Et Etics
For $1000 you are getting a lot more space. I think that is the biggest difference. If valve offered a 1 tb they would probably be closer to 1k. If they did 2tb it would definitely be over 1k. Storage is expensive.
the compact design, the screen, and the joystick is perfect
Yay more tech reviews from Rich makes this pug zoomie.
this is what you should be doing more often !!
Using Hall sensors in itself is already a huge plus.
To be fair, the SteamDeck is a better established brand so they can have better hardware and sell it at a lower MSRP. Also, both of these are more portable so you're probably paying for that extra portability.
That's the only advantage Valve has for now. Once and if these companies can have some store and leverage that they can easily become a competitor. In absence of any such store all these companies are left with is innovation. Their purpose is to sell what's like 5000 units and move to next powerful SOC. Till Valve starts utilizing the 7000u series these Companies will have something to sell since a lot of these Chinese Companies have already moved to 6800u which is considerably more powerful than the custom SOC inside Steam Deck. So at least people can say that they are playing for some premium powerful device. Steam off course cannot afford to do that because it has to look how Deck has an effect on sales in steam store.
Steam Deck looks interesting, nice portable console.🌠
The software side of Ayaneo is what worries me. I don't think they realize how much work Valve put into SteamOS and the constant updates and work they still have to do to it after release to keep it functional and working well. But Ayaneo thinks they're going to be able to make a full fledged OS for their future handhelds. I'll believe it when I see it
Rich always speaks like an honest master. So we have to listen to him :)
Finally, a video that relates to his username 😂😅
I sorely wanted to pick up an Aya Neo or the air model back when my GPD Win 2 had to be sold for parts. The price tag can be eye watering compared to the Steam Deck. Cex in the UK have such price hike on second hand Aya Neo devices. I'll just stick with my deck.
U are the pickiest person when it comes to d pads lmao! I think the steam deck's d pad feels perfectly fine. It would have to be extremely terrible for me to bring it up.
Yeah they're alright, they just get fingerprints too easily.
Great review rich! I think I'm going to go with the steam deck.
STEAMDECK OBVIOUSLY
Great vid... The d-pad rant made me laugh.. d-pads are such a personal thing and everybody thinks every company should make them they way we each want them.. I always hated the Nintendo d-pads
Rich tomorrow: I stopped reviewing tech because I have a headless Carlos 🐔 let’s get into it
I'm happy to see this video thanks rich and I may get one aya neo air
Imagine that Rich reviewing tech in the USA!😂
I checked the Indiegogo campaign, the least amount I can put in is $3,700 that's a hard pass for me until the retail version drops for $500
Saaaaame. I love portable gaming PCs
Umm no u don't have to pay 3700 dollars. The aya neo air pro is 799 for the base model
@@ghostlegit the indiegogo campaign won't take contributions for less than 3k when I checked
@@nhilist5774 yes it will. Ur not doing it right
I literally just put in my pledge for a special edition pro model 1 hour before the campaign ended last night, and I it cost me around 1100 dollars to do so after adding in a few extras and shipping. 3700 dollars you say? Are you sure you aren't looking at it in Hong Kong dollars? They're a Chinese company, so when you see the prices on Indiegogo, it's going to convert it into HKD, which looks like more money than it is. When you go to check out with the item, it shows you the actual money you're paying for your region. In my case it's the United States, so it carried over into USD.
The instant I saw 20 fps that was a nope
I'll wait until aya neo 2 comes out. I'm happy with the deck for now.
Thanks for the review! For me the Steam Deck was never an option due to size, plus I'm not really looking to play AAA games on it so while I'm paying $700 for the Ayaneo Air Pro model, it's worth it to me for the OLED screen and portability.
durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Lol
The design gives me Sony PSP vibes.
Rich got your hands on a Ayaneo 2 ? Love your reviews bro
The screens on the neos look much better than the deck though.
Thanks for being realistic in your review. I think you should’ve given us a little more info about what was wrong with the SD Card in this video, and contrast that with the SteamDeck’s.
But I’m glad you didn’t do what most TH-camrs do, and get so enamored with the form factor that you completely disregard the practical reality of this thing, when it comes to price, in a world where Switches and SteamDecks exist.
However, I’m surprised you didn’t attempt an install of SteamOS on the device, to check compat, and get a true 1 to 1 comparison with the Deck
Only in America
Rich your my hero
God, they were so close. The concept was so compelling, but that battery life kills it all. I could even deal with the old Vega graphics and performance, but if I'm going to have constant battery anxiety, not worth it. That OLED screen had me hooked too. I just cancelled my preorder, but luckily, I have a Steam Deck coming next week. I was planning to sell the Deck and Keep the Air, but I guess my plans just changed. I heard from way too many sources that both models have battery issues, and OLED isn't going to help with that. I hate to go back to an LED display after being spoiled by my gaming monitor, phone, and Switch OLED, but the Steam Deck it is.
I really like the decks screen. Something magical happens to 720p when you shrink the screen. It's brilliant. But you have the same battery issues over here my dude.
@@chancebrady2 Yeah, you're right. The Pro Aya Air is 38mAh and the Deck is 40mAh. Not much difference, but I did hear that the Steam Deck is optimized to drain the battery slower than off the shelf hardware like thats been slapped together. Still though, I hear the battery is an issue on Deck as well. Guess I should have looked into these things a bit more before cancelling my Ayaneo Air.
@@bluemidnight5926 personally I'm fine with it. Yes you can adjust settings to improve battery life. Not a whole lot on AAA games tho. But that's fine for me. I have just been tinkering and playing for like an hour before bed. And if I dock it on my TV it has power anyway. I'm just so amazed by ALL it does do tho. I mean I stream from my ps5. Play my steam games. Play ALL of my emulators. And I think the biggest thing for me is using it as a HULKED OUT switch lol. I think you'll enjoy it. Anyway hope you do.
@@chancebrady2 You seem like a good person to ask about this, but how is modding games on the Steam Deck? It it possible to do on Steam OS? One of the main reasons I game on PC is for modding, but it seems like Steam OS is streamlined towards being more user friendly to the average console player.
@@bluemidnight5926 as far as I've experienced and I'm pretty new to steam and steam os. I have modded some games just through steam works and that works fine but is seams limited. I have modded ffxv just fine. But I believe you can mod just like any other in desktop mode. However the methods aren't the same as windows per se for obvious reasons. I don't really mod games tho.
Thing about the Steam Deck is that it has the Track pads that can be configured to do a whole bunch of things the Ayaneo cannot. Playing simulator games for example can be done on the Steam Deck but cannot be done on the Ayaneo.
Do you mean Steam Deck has quicker loading or access to games?
OLED makes me buy low spec games on the Switch instead of the Steam Deck... It's ridiculous so many PC gamers are stuck on 2015 thinking IPS is the best type of screen...even a VA LED with local diming blows IPS out of the water by a mile. I hope the next Steamdeck gets an OLED screen too.
I just hate that a lot of my fav games aren’t supported and don’t work on the steam deck. I like the deck all around tho.
The steam deck was in development longer and has a custom APU of course it'll out perform anything in the handheld market until at least mid 2023
The Steam Deck is the winner, especially if you want a Switch competitor and play PC games on the go like Elden Ring.
I don't really think they compete because there's little crossover between the two. They're both portable I guess....and that's it?
@@gligarguy4010 but the AYA Neo is underpowered and more expensive, it has no advantages over other portable game systems.
@@Markimark151 No I meant in terms of competing with the Switch since I don't consider that to be in this "portable PC market" these other platforms fall into lol
@@gligarguy4010 they purposely made those portable systems to rival the Nintendo Switch! Richard said those consoles are in the same demographic as the Switch! Because you’re playing AAA games like Skyrim, Doom, Elden Ring, and GTA games on the go!
"Thick with a C" -Richie, 2022
Here for the birds.
Where can I hear you instrumentals rich there very relaxing 😌
It's great to know that the steam that is superior
Well done you have reviewed some tech..
Excellent review. I’ll stick with my steam deck, it’s awesome.
Ooh…those guys are basically the same form factor as the Switch Lite. I may just pick one up since I’m sick of waiting for the Deck.
I would look at gdp win max pro2 and aokzoe instead, they are the next gen rich was talking about and shipping this month supposedly. Both have the same specs as each other but win max has 10in screen while aokzoe which I bought, has this form factor, albeit 8in screen, and man sized lol.
But I started my investigation looking at this device.
Strange you don't recommend SD cards for Ayaneo, I wonder what work steam has done to make the steam deck ssd speeds so similar to the SSD speeds at least when loading games and boot time
You know I subscribed to this channel to watch tech reviews, Rick barely do it, so thank you Rick, thank you.
Rich
Rick and morty
With what you just said I'm going with the Steam Deck without hesitation.
Got mine recently and I don't regret it. It's one of the best devices I've ever bought imo
One of my friends has the Aya neo as well as a steam deck. His literally lit on fire without warning. I mean, he is getting a free replacement, but still.
which one ignited?
@@quailgaming9014 probably the aya neo. Its a chinese handheld.
Can third party apps like discord be install on these devices?
Let me know that end song when you find out from your editor!
Rich looks stoned in this video 🍃🍃🍃
Them Chickens are big.
Reviewing Tech so hard lately. Who'd thought?
I really hope these new portable systems makes Nintendo realize that we want stuff like this. Portable 720-1080p running at a buttery smooth 60fps would be amazing on a Mario or Zelda game.
I hope Sony make another portable. PSP was awesome....Crisis Core a great game.
Finally some tech review lol
Well to be fair, you're paying extra for portability.
Not at those prices, i will stick with my steam deck.
My Steam Deck is getting shipped out Today hopefully I get it tonight or tomorrow
GPD is the only one that gets the Dpad right. It's essentially the PS Vita Dpad.
The dpad on Deck is fine.
@@LudusAurea play Tetris effect and come back and say it's fine again. Wayyyy too clicky
Now this is some Review of Tech in the United States OF America
2.5 to 3 hours should be the base minimum for a handheld
Even the steam doesn't last 2.5 hours at minimum
@@ghostlegit exactly 👍
I've got my steam deck to last about 9 hours it depends on the games you play also wattage settings and fps.
@MrDjBigZ well I think AAA games @30fps should last over 2hrs
@MrDjBigZ motorstorm
@ ReviewTechUSA pls do you recommend gaming on sd card on the steam deck ? Thanks
More Bezel means less damage to the screen and easier repair if you do
This proves what Gabe meant when he said the price point was painful.
15:19 just look at the handhelds reflection
I was really thinking of getting that one.The screen is too tiny for me and my eyes because I'm getting older need a bigger screen
AYANEO is doing great job. One thing to mention they don't get chips as lower price as their counterparts. AYANEO has better design and OLED screen.