Who Can Break Through Steve's Blocks?
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We put all characters to the test against all of Steves blocks.
For this tierlist we only tested how the main recovery tools (up special) from below hold up against the blocks.
Dirt, Wood, Stone and Iron.. where does your favourite character end up?
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More tier list videos?
Ye
That would be awsome
I don't know, are there?
Yes please, that would be nice
I'll take your entire stocks!
Cfive said "only using up special" - Doctor Mario uses down special "I am a doctor so it's allowed now"
I mean it's Dr. Mario, his recovery sucks anyway
@@DarkGamer364 It's better than Luigi's recovery if you know how to use it
Dr. Mario says you are just seeing things and prescribes you some pills ;D
@@Cristeve as a Dr.Mario main, I agree but his recovery isn't better by much.
The chad doctor
Never would I have thought they'd be a tier list where DK's recovery would be considered top tier.
Or Dr. Mario's recovery
Belmonts included
It’s quite a sight
Lil Mac is still low tier in this one sadly.
Ivysaur*
"Everything an angel can do, godess can do better"
*Palutena fails to dirt while pit beats iron*
BSD: "Zero Suit Samus has the 5th best recovery in the game"
ZSS: *loses to dirt*
yo its bbq from the cord
Honestly her recovery is carried through her other two options so without those options it's game set
@@thunderstar7682 I agree... but the same can be said about a lot of other characters.... Is like saying that if Bayo can only recover with Up-Special once she would be screwed.... Or even Pikachu or Pac-Man without using Side-Special they would be screwed in many situations.
Recoveries in this game varies in form, function, inputs and strategies, so when people talk about the recovery of a certain character, it involves all of its options. This video only covered Up-Special (with a couple of exceptions).
@@buccob
she does up-b after jumping so each one is up-b once :^)
@@buccob for bayo it’s more about preserving double jump that’s her most valuable resource of them all
I feel like the big takeaway from this video is "ride the edge of the stage"
yea
"Let's see who's recovery loses to dirt"
You don't even need to block him, Little Mac still ain't making it back
Little mac is actually good
I tried him because i tried to beat my friends with him and he can recover a bit and hes better then pika
@@Hi-mo6rq
-Pikachu- Little Mac...
*B U S T E D*
@@Hi-mo6rq Preach it
This person made my day😊
So basically, we learned that Steve was made to counter Fire Emblem characters.
Yes you are right
Except robin
@@dragowolf268 But Robin isn't really a Fire Emblem character in this sense, like Link; both use more than just their sword.
@@dragowolf268 and Byleth
@@Pharoah_Nines how did I forget my main
When you realize Mario, a character who brakes bricks, almost for a living, loses to dirt.
docter mario can make it farther nd his recoverie is worse
@@rod2575 Dr Mario's up B is a single strong hit. So it breaks blocks more easily.
I guess its dirt from a different universe where its even stronger than Mushroom Kingdom brick
@@EmptyHand49 I like that actually, that's creative
@@thumper5555 Don’t undermine Steve’s powers
"Incineroar beats wood, but loses to stone."
Well duh, any Pokémon player could have told you that!
But doesn’t fighting type beat rock type?
@@killercore007 He's actually fire and dark types in Pokemon, but for some reason Smash turned him into a fighting type.
@@cadenblack4472 well I’m the Pokémon game he is a wrestler just look at sun and moon
@@dragowolf268 He should have been the first triple-typed pokémon ;)
Just imagine a fire-dark-fighting type:
2× dmg from: fairy, fight, flying, ground, water
½× dmg from: bug, ghost, grass, ice, steel, fire
¼× dmg from: dark
0× dmg from: psychic
@@Liggliluff yea that would be broken and is should also be solgolo
There's something upsetting about seeing characters that literally teleport get their recoveries walled off by dirt
Seeing Palu loose makes me happy
I love how even though they’re playing as Male Byleth, they STILL call him “she”
Male byleth is a queen
Knew someone would say this...
I main Male Byleth
Byleth is the only character with a gender option that people play the male one
Lmao
"loses to dirt" is the best insult.
Using male Byleth
"She doesn't care"
I noticed that too
Byleth be transitioning
I know right
Gender happens in one's tiny bits.
(^genital/binary code joke)
gender is a scam created by bathroom companies to sell more bathrooms
A lot of these characters can be blocked if you place blocks lower, which stops their momentum and then they cant reach the ledge.
..and thats a fact
Or just stack blocks over the first layer... works like a charm
To be fair, “who can destroy one layer of blocks near the ledge” is also useful too, because that may be all Steve has time to do, or Steve may want a trap.
When Dr. Mario gets to use his down special but Luigi (and others) don't:
That wasn't very beefy smash of you
Yep, was waiting for Pika/Pichu down specials :P
Your right I was thinking this
@@Ildriss Well you can keep waiting because the those blocks ignore the thunderbolt completely.
Luigi Cyclone recovery got stupid nerfed though.
@@JanitorAntisocial They made it to balance them in Ultimate
Dr. Mario buffs and nerfs: Down B goes higher but he jumps lower
Luigi buffs and nerfs: Down B doesn't work for recovering but it's stronger and has more super armor
Why isn't "loses to rock" tier called "scissors" tier?
This is my humor incarna- incomment.
Maybe because that joke is lame.
Way underrated comment. You're a genius.
^ the duality of man.
The two reactions in this video:
_”Oh shit they went through!”_
“Oh damn they didn’t go through :(“
**Repeat for 24 minutes or until content is achieved**
and "he/she doesn´t care at all."
at least its somewhat useful other than the stupid custom stage videos of who can get knuckles emeralds or something
Just a Tiger thing
It wasn’t necessarily an admonishment, as much as I can see someone taking it that way, and in truth it’s a bit of a reach, even for a joke.
They did a good job keeping it varied. I sure as hell watched the whole thing.
P
You forgot repeating “chad” and “not chad”
1:46 _“She_ just slashes through, _she_ doesn’t care”
**is using male Byleth**
Who’s male Byleth? Did she have a gender reveal party sometime?
These gentlemen may or may not have a waifu bias.
Face it no one cares about male byleth
@@dragowolf268 *_i do stfu and fight me_*
@@dragowolf268 *_i didn’t care about him before playing Fire Emblem: Three Houses but once i did and consider male my one True Byleth I couldn’t bring myself to play other than Him so think again_*
“Absolute Chad recovery”
I will use this from now on
That Diddy recovery made me laugh so hard I started to cough XD. I figured it would do that but its still funny as hell
Falco's recovery analysis
Fire > Stone
Fire < Iron
*Visible confusion*
Greninja's recover
Water > Wood (basically Grass)
Water < Stone
Roy’s recovery
Fire>dirt
Fire
@@Spark25293 yes
Seeing palu in the dirt tier made me happy
Just look at smash 4 teir lists then
Me too... So happy
AnYtHiNg An AnGeL cAn Do, A gOdDeSs CaN dO bEtTeR.
When you realize they said up b to ledge but they used dr Mario’s down b
Omg I just realized LOL
I thought they meant recover from below
@Charles Wolfanger he lost to the wood block,he only got through the iron block because of his down b
Gotta beat the hot garbage blocks somehow!
PAC-MAN’s side B too
"Wow! She just goes through the blocks!"
*Using Male Byleth*
There is a male Byleth?
@@altomen . . .
yes
Marth all over again
When playing a fire emblem character you will never get your genders right
and in the smash community playing the male version makes you the most weirdest person to walk the earth
Even to this day I can’t play male Corrin in peace
@@turbotrey7750 you have my respect for playing male Corrin if that counts for anything
The only recovery tier list where Dr Mario is higher than Mario
Can we take a moment to appreciate how much mining they had to do to get all these different materials?
Bayoneta: “she just goes through wood”
Yep. Yes she does 😐
CFive somehow managed to jump cancel the bullet extension version of bayo up b which is impressive
For the most efficient way to recover though as bayo you should be using the light version (don’t hold the special button while inputting up b, just tap it lightly-this will make your recovery as bayo faster, your combos more true and the inputs are easier)
Look at that DLC recovery privilege
Drinking game: everytime they say “okay”, take a shot.
kinda upsetting that they don't count zss because her side b can definitely be used from
below
as well as I'm kinda sad they didn't try out other monado arts on shulk which caught me by surprise
They could've used Buster to do more damage to the blocks, at least theoretically
I thought that too
I would have tried buster monado for sure
It's official: the Belmonts can recover against Steve.
SURPRISINGLY
The comment I was looking for
Male Byleth: *Makes it past Iron*
BSD: "She just doesn't care"
Male Byleth: * Sad Male Byleth noises*
"just testing the up specials"
I guess doc's down special counts as an up special?
We finally found something that Luigi does better than Mario!
You mean besides the other 100 things lugi is better at than Mario
@@jdblue9460 not in the tier lists
@@MegaMeister123 i mean that Mario is higher than Luigi in the tier lists. Just cause Luigi has the zero to death doesn’t mean that he is better than Mario, who is a more well rounded fighter.
@@MegaMeister123 you are a smart man, i like you
Dude, Luigi is better at all the fun categories that people make generic “who can” videos about
Spoiler Alert:
Our Mac boi can't make through dirt. :'(
Shocked. The worst recovery failed? I'm shocked. SHOCKED.
Jigglypuff is the only character we are changing our up special rule
Dr. Mario: I'ma bout to ruin these men's careers
If Steve's blocks are too good of an edge-guard, they could give all recovery specials a trait that they instantly destroy blocks without blocking the player. That way you can't use it directly as edge guard.
Ridly does have a diagonal, its just also the backward one
You know that the start of Zelda’s recovery deals damaged
I know it doesn't matter but this is extremely inaccurate. With some characters you are intentionally just going around the blocks while with others you are not even though they easily could. and with doc you used down special
Precisely
They shoul have used a stage with vertical walls
Agreed they made so many exceptions with characters after finding out you go around the blocks which defeats the purpose of the video
Ikr
Roys recovery in Melee be like: 11:16
"Lets just... use up B"
Jigglypuff mains: am I a joke to you?
Plays as male byleth... "She just doesnt care" says "she" 3 times again
This was actually more entertaining than I'd thought it would be.
Mewtwo: one of the strongest Pokémon known to man And can TELEPORT
Also mewtwo: CANT GET THERE DIRT
beefy smash doods: *gets to little mac*
vick: oh... that looks sad... i wanna see it again
me: oh my god poor mac XD
Anyone else notice the weird tornado effect of Wario's up-b lingering a few frames after he breaks blocks?
Damn always coming in clutch with the videos I didn’t know I needed
9:50 They just can't stop doing him dirty.
Timestamps
Banjo 0:30 & 4:50
Bayo 0:47
Bowser 1:07
Bowser jr 1:22
Byleth 1:44
Captain Falcon 2:10
Sqirtle 2:23
Ivysoar 2:40
Charrizard 2:51
Chrom 2:59
Cloud 3:16
Corrin 3:33
Diddy Kong 3:43
DK 4:01
Doctor Mario 4:09
Duck Hunt 4:30
Falco 4:53
Fox 5:10
Ganon 5:21
Greninja 5:31
Hero 5:59
Ice Climbers 6:14
Ike 6:35
Incinaroar 6:52
Inkling 7:07
Isabelle 7:21
Joker 7:37
Jigglypuff 7:57
Ken 8:20
King Dedede 8:35
King K.Rool 8:58
Kirby 9:12
Link 9:23
Little Mac 9:51 (Y’all know how this goes)
Lucario 10:03
Lucas 10:39
Lucina 11:09
Marth 11:17
Luigi 11:22
Mario 11:35
Mega man 11:41
Meta Knight 11:58
Mewtwo 12:06
Mii Brawler 12:16
Mii Swordfighter 12:46
Mii Gunner 13:21
Min Min 13:52
Mr. G&W 13:59
Ness 14:23
Pac Man 15:00
Palutana 15:13
Peach 15:22
Pichu 15:32
Pikachu 15:41
Olimar 15:48
Piranha Plant 16:00
Pit 16:10
Ridley 16:29
R.O.B 16:35
Robin 16:43
Rosalina & Luma 17:07
Roy 17:25
Ryu 17:32
Samus 17:39
Sheik 17:51
Shulk 18:31
Simon Belmont 18:49
Snake 19:10
Sonic 19:27
Steve 19:51
Terry 20:09
Toon Link 20:26
Villager 20:38
Wario 20:44
Wii Fit 20:58
Wolf 21:12
Yoshi 21:42
Young Link 22:14
Zelda 22:20
ZSS 22:32
Thank you so much, you're a legend
This tierlist actually came out much more varied than I thought
Falco has the early hitboxes on his up special that would've gone through the iron
It's only ever a grab box which doesn't interact with the blocks. Unless you mean the collateral hit when he grabs someone?
@@NachostheXth lol, I meant falco
Imagine your beloved character losing to freaking dirt
-this post was made by the tether gang
Mosy characters can just up air to help break the blocks and then up special. Though I do appreciate the video for understanding how recoveries work against blocks.
Yes, this video demonstrates if you have to care about doing something else, or just power through the blocks. Although some recoveries that are slow, could easily be punished. Tether recoveries are safe to just power through, as well as Isabelle and Kirby who can float around the blocks.
22:55 Steve just admiring the view.
Honestly, knowing that Steve can counterpick any teleport character is huge. His moves themselves are situational and not necessarily good on their own, but even just being able to counter the likes of Palutena and Zelda is pretty important imo
I know its not the point of the video, but I'm sure that a lot more character would snap if you recover sliding up along the underside of the platform. It's just that in a few of the tests, like with Lucas, they seem to succeed no necessarily because because they can break through the blocks because you recovered with them in such a way that they could make use of ledge snapping to bypass block interaction. I know its just for fun, but I thought I'd leave my thoughts here to let people know that even some of the characters who couldn't make it through certain block tiers may still be able to recover if Steve makes a block ceiling like this if they recover close to the stage.
Lucas can also bounce like Ness though so he would still make it. But your point is valid.
hugging the stage only way :
@@Nekotaku_TV Idk why no one mentions this but he also has a tether.
The reason Ridley can’t even break through the dirt is due to how his recovery acts on a functional level. It’s programmed to be able to bounce off of any terrain the game considers to be “a wall” when at a certain proximity to said surface.
There were 3 possible ways you could’ve bypassed this:
1.) recover from a slightly lower angle and use a “beefy up-b.” Ridley would no longer be in the threshold where the bounce tech is active.
2). Recover horizontally at the same angle. Like I said before, Ridley can bounce off any terrain the game considers “wall,” and the stage is one of those things. You could’ve possibly used it to stall like with Ness.
3). Use Ridley’s midair jumps to position yourself backwards (where you can use his diagonal recovery). I know you were just testing recoveries and that the use of jumps were prohibited, but I believe that it would’ve been interesting to try anyways.
Smash logic:
Girl with hula hoops: breaks iron
Guy who literally generates fire with his fist: *i can haz dirt*
What we learn from this video? That Joker's recovery is better without Arsene, and Donkey Kong's recovery is better than Pikachu's.
That felling when I’m a cloud diddy main and they both loose to dirt😨
I feel like Ness should have their own tier because if you know how to use PK Thunder 2 twice effectively, you can recover from block placement gimps (as well as Pk Flash/Air dodge) but it also feels impossible to surpass unless you know that advanced tech. No other character able to pop through a one-block layer gimp needs such an advanced tech from their character.
seeing as my boi Cloud thrusts his sword up, I thought he would of gone through. I am big sad
Maybe if he thrusted something else...
@@dragooncroft omg I just realized how wrong my comment sounded Lmao
What if cloud uses his strongest weapon
@@dragooncroft HAHAHA
I think you should try to split the characters who can go through iron ("absolute chad recovery") into sub-tiers for who barely does it even when from really close/requiring some special trick, who barely does it or requires a trick but then goes well, and who can do it pretty easily/with recovery distance to spare. Basically "barely chad, solid chad and ultra-chad".
This way "loses to dirt" is our bottom tier, "loses to wood" is our low tier, "loses to stone" is our mid-low tier, "loses to iron" is our mid-tier, "barely chad" is our mid-high tier, "solid chad" is our high tier and ultra-chad is our "top tier".
_> This way [...]_
That was kind of a given. Was it necessary to point that out? 🤔
Palutina: a Goddess
Also palutina can’t get through DIRT while her servant (pit) an Angel can get through everything
JUST WHAT
Beefy smash dudes : she goes right through
Byleth: what do you want from me
I wasn't the only one annoyed by them calling Byleth a her while using male Byleth, was I?
What’s a male Byleth?
Thats because male Byleth is best girl
C5: She can make it
Byleth: Am I a girl to you?
possibly
I just watched a 24 minute video of two guys putting blocks in the air and doing up specials.
I loved every minute of it.
Every character when hitting the blocks:
Bonk*
This was a lot of work. Thanks so much for doing the heavy testing for the Community!
Alternate Title:
cFive impersonates recoveries for 24 and a half minutes
Tethers
Dr. Mario having a high ranked recovery??? Aint no way.
They allowed him to use his down b,his up b alone loses to wood (still better than regular mario)
Bonking seems like a really dumb thing to throw on some characters and not others
I'm just happy to see the Belmonts have a recovery not be considered trash for once.
Steve is just awesome
this video is legit important. never take this down. this is the steve bible dude
Can we take a moment to appreciate how much time this video took to make? Absolutely insane
God, Mac really just can't catch a break. :(
Ok, did it feel weird for anyone else that they said "she" while using the male version of Byleth?
Why is this video SO fun to watch dude you’re constantly like CMON BUDDY YOU GOT THIS
Me: arrives early
My head: quick think something funny
9:53 "that looked sad i want to see it again"
Hi
Did you try using the first hit of zelda up-b tho?
Pee
Amazing comment
This inspired me.
While I'm sure most of these are accurate, my only issue with this test is the stage used
I feel like some characters (Pit, for example) would slide up along the stage and snap to ledge, ignoring blocks
If you want this to be more accurate, I'd recommend testing it on a stage with walls, like Kalos or Wily's Castle
I think they did this stage to test it on a Battle Field / Final Destination style stage.
Just wanna thank you guys. I've been having the the worst working stress weeks in my life, and in the worst day of the worst weeks watching you guys doing whatever calmed me enough not to cry. Thanks a bunch!! Keep the good work
SmashDudes: Recover with only Up special.
Dr Mario: Im a doctor, I can do what I want to save my life!
For those saying that "They didn't use Luigi's Down B". Luigi never uses it as recovery option, and loses regardless :v
8:57 was my favorite, I was really surprised for his Up B to break all the block tiers, I expected Iron to be his defeat.
-cowards you didn't show off Sans-
would be interesting to see Chad Tier ranked by how hard it is for the character to get through the blocks
The Belmonts would probably be the top tier here
Alternate Title: "He just goes through it."
"Is this a good video?", it's a must, I love it. It's important data.
Yeah it's harder for Ness, gives Steve another chances, but glad he can still make it. His recovery should never be beaten by anything new. T.T
Good luck to people who main dirt tier Steve matchups. The Steve mains already have this memorized
Did I really just waste 24 minutes watching people going through blocks
Worth it
9:51 bro thinks you need blocks to stop little macs recovery