Slaying the Badger | 30 for 30 Trailer | ESPN

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  • American Greg Lemond helped teammate Bernard Hinault, The Badger, win the Tour de France as teammates. In 1986, it was supposed to be LeMond's turn, but would it be? It was a turning point in cycling. Watch the full 30 for 30 on ESPN+.
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ความคิดเห็น • 26

  • @annm9589
    @annm9589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my favorite documentaries. Intense and gripping. I wish I could find it on cable to watch again

  • @BobbyL80123
    @BobbyL80123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    reporter: "you told lemond that hinault was only seconds behind when, in fact, he was minutes back".
    paul koechli: "that's not..... a key question".
    of course it's a key question!!!! big effing difference between 40 to 50 seconds and 4 or 5 minutes behind.

    • @Mynipplesmychoice
      @Mynipplesmychoice 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Ken Besford Lemond is a big baby. He went against a super competitive guy he should have got his own team.... Although that french coach guy is still a snake

    • @aeromedical6750
      @aeromedical6750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Jon Brooks - pure and simple. The French team had ZERO interest in LeMond winning in 1985. Had they be truly invested in LeMond winning, they would have been truthful and encouraged him to continue to attack LeRouch and claim the yellow jersey. Hinault was defeated at that point. This would be akin to telling Tom Brady to “Slow back buddy, we plan to bring Drew Bleadsoe back as the starting QB next season. You’re running him out of a job!”

    • @gregorydetroyat6905
      @gregorydetroyat6905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mynipplesmychoice swiss coach

  • @markmiller489
    @markmiller489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Top 10 30 for 30s.Very intense documentary

  • @jorgevelasco9787
    @jorgevelasco9787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Lemond had values. He honored the teams decision. The only reason why he did not win the 1985 tour.

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...because Hinault was suffering from the effects of a crash that was not his fault. To the point of the crash, he was far and away the best rider that year (+5 mins ahead). Surely it is only fair they protect his lead? That a French team looking to create history with a French rider ensure they did so? By the next day and the final TT, Hinault was basically back with the best. If anyone learned from this it was Roche.

    • @stevenmeyer9674
      @stevenmeyer9674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EMC2Scotia So he was suffering from the crash, but a day later he was at full strength? You seem to have a selective and biased memory. Every witness to that tour said that Greg was the strongest in the race, not Hinault.

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenmeyer9674 Greg was stronger in the Pyrenees, but the crash was the difference. After it happened, Lemond could have taken over, but my previous post stands. Besides, was Hinaut ever back to full strength? He was dropped to the summit of the Aubisque, and beaten in the final TT when, up to that point in the Tour, he had put minutes into Lemond in this discipline. Further, reverse the roles, would we be saying Hinault should've gone for the GC and displace Lemond, if we are talking of bias? If Lemond had won in '85, would he have done so in '86?

    • @stevenmeyer9674
      @stevenmeyer9674 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EMC2Scotia the only thing that was certain in 85 was that Lemond was lied to on the Luz Ardiden stage about how much of a lead he had on Hinault. he was told the lead was only a minute or two when it was actually over five minutes.

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenmeyer9674 The fact of the time gap seems accepted, although it'd be nice to see pictures of that gap (is there anything said or on the screen from the coverage on the day?). But say Lemond gets the green light, goes for it, what then? Who is to say he wouldn't have been counter-attacked? Recall Roche was there, Lemond encouraging him to go for it, and the next day Roche dropped everyone. If Lemond went for it on Luz Ardiden, maybe he would've lost more time the next day? As it was, the team controlled their rivals, Hinault managed the gap and they won. The team winning matters the most, and it was a French team with a French leader winning a 5th TDF.

  • @vincentc3475
    @vincentc3475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Greg Lemond was a fabulous champion. The total opposit of the Armstrong-pay-to-win system.

  • @magalivilmamora6300
    @magalivilmamora6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recien veo este video.....son unos grandes!!!! Que epoca!!!! Libdo los tours.

  • @rosspanfili387
    @rosspanfili387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does this documentary have English subtitles for Hinault parts? Or is it just in French?

  • @anabelenplata
    @anabelenplata ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find the full version?

  • @TweedSuit
    @TweedSuit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lemond was an exceptionally talented rider from a young age, as was Hinault. Difference being Lemond was content to do the minimum to win whereas Hinault would inflict pain to win. 40 secs or 4 mins don't matter - If Lemond had good legs he should have slammed that chain in the big ring and gone all out - that's what Hinault would have done and he would have respected that.

  • @pacotorres2704
    @pacotorres2704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hinault, the best! He felt in Saint Etienne and he has to give the next tour to Lemond. If he don't fall in Saint Etienne, he would win in 1985 and in 1986.

  • @richardgaines9450
    @richardgaines9450 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worm.

  • @christopherandstephaniehil5782
    @christopherandstephaniehil5782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lying coach

  • @TheSpidertrumpet
    @TheSpidertrumpet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just see the documentary, not bad. I didnt like the fact you FORGET TO MENTION the GOAT MIGUEL INDURAIN . You mention EPO and Armstrong cheating…. But Lance was not lemond rival. It was INDURAIN and by the way INDURAIN destroy lemmond in five straight tours….INDURAIN LOST 96 tour cause Rijjss use epo

    • @petem5050
      @petem5050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Destroyed him? Hope you know Indurain did not even finish his first 2 Tours, then finished 97th in '87, almost 3hrs behind. Then in '88 47th, over 1hr behind. It is a known fact that Indurain worked with Francesco Conconi starting in the late 80's, the founding father of EPO use in cycling. Then in '91 Indurain suddenly became a TT specialist and outclimbing many riders with a 6'2" 180lb frame, are you kidding me? if he was that good where was he in the 80's? You simply don't finish Grand Tours then all of a sudden dominate the sport winning both the Tour de France and Giro D'Italia in the same year(2 years in a row at at that!). And Riis was never a Tour favourite, the reason why he won in '96 was because he was known as Mr. 60% as in 60% Hematocrit level. The highest red blood cell count out of anybody, that's not normal. Get your facts straight.

  • @1987phillybilly
    @1987phillybilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tour de france is the worst event in the world....

    • @kasperjepsen2917
      @kasperjepsen2917 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Go back to watching football.