Is Clippers Vs. Mavs the Most Important First-Round Series? | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo talk about the first-round series between the Clippers and the Mavericks.
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If I get a cat I’m naming it Paul George now 😂😂😂
FANTASTIC cat name 🤣🤣
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Mayor Adam West type beat
Paw George
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As a Mavs fan no I wouldn't rather just be blown out. We gained a ton of momentum and confidence it doesn't matter how big we go down we can fight back. Great game you can't go down 31 and kidd had a few coaching decisions. Fun game either way.
I mean blowouts don't mean much.
Bucks got blown out by Nets, still won series and title
Warriors got blown out by Grizzlies (without Ja), won series and title.
Problem is not only was the game in Dallas but Kawi wasn’t playing. If Dallas won game 4 they win the series up 3-1. That said it was a great game as the Mavs did show heart coming back from 30 points. I’m rooting for Kyrie & the Mavs but IF the Clippers are healthy I think they win in 7
Clippers tend to relax after a big win, so they’ll lose game 5, but win game 6 and game 7 decisively and they’ll lose the 2nd round. Hopefully the vets realize they can’t keep doing this and win game 5 and 6.
I feel like mavs fans are talking themselves into a glass half full situation but I don’t think there’s momentum to be gained from a loss at home, getting down 31, taking the lead after all that energy expended then gagging it away the last 2 min. Just don’t see it. Seems more deflating than anything.
@@chrissantos1067 A person like you wouldn't understand because you have a negative mind and likely never played competitive sports. What pro team is going to cry about the last game when they have the next game to focus on.
I love Kawhi and Luka. Wanted to see them in the west finals. This is brutal for the 1st round
It's always like this between these two. 2021 series was so phenomenal, but no one really acknowledges it.
Every time this teams face each other it's a battle, no matter who wins they have to face OKC who are younger and no injuries to their top guys.
@@glcsander OKC kids are awesome, but I give them almost no chance vs Mavs or Clippers
I feel you. I also a fan of kyrie and harden.
but Kawaii wasn't even playing last game
Even if the mavs lose to the clippers in the first round I still like their chances going forward. If Luka was healthy, I am sure the would have won in 5 against a pretty good Clippers team with a good head coach. The main guys beside Kyrie are 26 and younger.
They have the 2025 & 2031 first round picks, young prospects (Omax, Hardy, Green) and an expiring contract (Hardaway) to trade. Everybody is on a reasonable longterm teamfriendly contract. Very tradeable. Mavs are flexible going forward. This season Luka made a step forward closer to MVP, Kyrie played the best basketball in a couple of years, Lively and Gafford are a great center rotation, PJ has already proven he can be a starter.
Their bench is good (Exum, Green, Kleber, Lively).
Compared to a year ago I really like their trajectory.
Bill, did you forget that Harden just dropped 40 on your Celtics twice in last year's playoff series?
And forget about taking on a healthy 72-win Dubs to 7 games in WCF...
.... with CP3 injured, Capella as his #2 and D'Antoni doing f*ck-all besides yelling "spam more thrAAYs!" incessantly.
_"Nah, nothing to see there."_
@@shaft9000and don't forget his amazing game , 4-9 performance last year
Harden has great games but he also has more duds than other players at his level.He had a few awesome games last year in the playoffs but he had multiple sub par games too.I do think they’re over critical of harden sometimes though
EXACTLY what i was thinking. Harden went nuts that game. He might have disappeared the game after though haha
Sure he did. It was 1st round. 😅
Bill forgot harden had couple great games against Boston? That was last year
if you are a media members you refuse to give harden credit... its in their contracts
@@ChunkSamsonwho cares? The guy is a disgrace, effin diva who messed every team up he played for. Yeah he could have a good game or 2, cool, who cares
It’s hard to remember after how fkn disgusting Games 6 & 7 were. The same thing could happen to last night’s performance btw
For being fair Luka is not looking all right neither. His knee is literally bleeding in every game of this series. It is sad but at the same time very interesting because it is a team game and you have ti adapt go every situation. I feel like thisI is going to Game 7 and we have amazing games ahead
I think Clippers have found their formula: Play without Kawhi. Slow a bit down Luka with their defense scheme and whatever happens, happens.
Formula to shot 62% from 3. That not gonna happen and they barely won
Clippers formula in those 2 wins was shoot 3's like crazy, 60-70%....
@@topcetopceBut that’s how they usually play, they’re one of the top 3 point shooting teams for several years top 5 if not top 3 in league usually. I’ve seen them shoot like this plenty of games but also shoot like game 2 and 3. But that’s nothing new they shoot a lot of 3 and Ty Lue encourages that. But it usually starts with their defense, when their defense is on, usually that kick starts their hot shooting.
The formula is James Harden needs to be aggressive
Defense is the most important part! 😀
Literally all Kidd had to do was put Kleber on the bench and they would've won. Salute to Harden but the dude had like 4 uncontested floaters down the stretch and Dallas didn't adjust at all
I feel like if you come out and get absolutely bodied in the first quarter twice in 4 games, that means your coach is a problem
Delusional mavs, luka defense is what you mean is problem
@@untexan they just attack luka. When they stop mavs comeback, then they realize and go back and run ends
Meanwhile Ty Lue has pj Tucker whose job is to be a hound on defense and corner 3 shots and he is riding the bench, look you won't stop Kyrie or Luka but at least make it tough for them to score.
All this focus on defense when the Clippers should punish them on offense, Kyrie and Luka should either be chasing guys trough screen getting killed in pick and rolls.
@@xavierb9061Lukas defense literally swung game 2 for the mavs clown
proud of everybody who stayed to see that comeback even if it wasn't consummated in the end
I could see this series being called one of the most important.
Glad Bill shouted out that Mavs crowd.
That place is BONKERS in the playoffs.
18:00 absolutely the pressure is on the Clippers after this season. They also have no draft picks for years, and their stars are much older. Dallas’s guys are hella young.
I feel like this is the new Kawhi….sadly, breaks my heart.
it because he’s always injured
James Harden has a true shooting percentage of 73.1 in the 2024 playoffs (1st in NBA among players with 11.1 or more points per game)
chef jimbo slice is sharp
As a Mavs fan, I rather lost like this than by 20.
That take is awful
watched this game as a Mavs fan disappointed with a loss after that comeback but damn I loved the fight and I think that transfered to the game five win
Well, get ready for Harden to lay eggs the rest of the series now that the stakes are high.
Definitely prepared for it. Embiid won’t get through either.
Clippers bench depth is not only very respectable but the whole team plays as a unit which allows them to play without Kawaii. Coffey is a good scorer and shooter, Boston Jr is young but crafty and can score in many ways, Powell is downright amazing all around, even guys like Theis and Moon can come in and play important roles
Luka floppin around like he’s Embid lolol guys never gonna play 1 game in the Finals😭😭😭
Embid either obviously…
Struggling vs a Kawhi-less clippers, how the hell are they beating OKC, Minnesota or Denver…
@@TCRgalaxy Luka isnt close to 100% either. Otherwise this series would already be over. The Clippers are a worse matchup then the Thunder for the Mavs. If Luka can get close to 100%, OKC will have real problems.
That Paul George cat comparison is hilarious 😂😂
This game should be yet ANOTHER reminder to teams, don't take any nights off in the playoffs. There's so much variance in the modern nba...anyone can beat anyone on a given night if the 3s are falling. Personally not a fan of where we are, but at least in a seven game series you can smooth out the chance factor ...somewhat....
the clippers are getting into luka's head. mann is playing him very very physically and its annoying him. Luka gotta grow up and get in better shape physicaly and mentally
That comment didnt age well... Luka has a banged up knee and an illness (since game 2) on top of that... Clippers defense doesnt mean much. Luka, if at 100% allways dominates gainst the Clippers. Sadly we do not get healthy Kawhi vs healthy Luka this playoffs... wouldve loved to see that! But Clippers defense isnt that good. Luka is just playing at 85%... and still averages 30/9/9
Harden did this for 2 games against Boston just last year! Did Bill forget about those lol
He hasn't been able to do it late in series but any one game you never know
You can see how mann defends luka is different vs any defender in the league.
Mann defends him horizontally and he knows that luka have a long delay in his shot so mann uses that time to close the horizontal space and he does like a fake swipe.
Vs other guys they play luka vertically which gets them out of position.
Mann was fouling Luka every play without any calls. Once he grabbed him with two hands from behind and no call was given.
VERY accurate.. I'm a Clipper fan and let me tell you we saw Luka TWO times in the playoffs....... Don't you think shutting down Luka is kind of easy now? No disrespect to his skills mind you, its just they're accustomed now....🤔.... Kyrie is the REAL issue🤔🇹🇹
@@denizg2653 bullshit. Luka seeks contact and the refs give him the benefit of the doubt. Even with the new non natural basketball move being automatic offensive fouls.
Not to mention luka uses his off arm every single time.
@@glovs4188 every star uses their off arm lol, Paul George and Harden do it on literally every play
@@scotty2877 doesn't make it legal. 😂
Bruh. Imagine if we got a healthy kawhi instead of coffey. Sigh.
Or a healthy Luka... Sigh.
Simmons one of them kyrie haters lmfao
he hates harden too, thats why no one takes his takes seriously.
I didn't watch all of 2018 season but Game 3 is the worst I've ever seen Kawhi. I'm not sure how they are saying 60%.
Game 2 was maybe 50-60%.
Game 3 was like 15-20% max. :(
great game!
Luka has been cooking Mann for almost five years now. All of the sudden Mann gain the abilities to stop Luka? Yea please. The man is hurt. He’s not even driving to the hole the same
He’s usually cooking Zubac on switches. Mann has always played him him but those picks are what gets Mann off him. If you notice now Mann plays him but on the side knowing Luka will shoot that 3 and then he gets behind him to try and take the 3 away and make him pass the ball instead. Coffey has been doing the same when on him. It’s a strategy that has been working.
Solo album Rusilo is a gem
It's not rocket science guys, your surprised James harden is scoring on kyrie irving luka doncic and pj washington it's straight up disrespectful to think they can guard him iso or in the pnr
lol... this didnt age well, did it? 2 of 12 in game 5... but no way they can stop him! 😂
Coach Ryen and Ast. coach Bill will have HS students drive and kick to the 3 every play 🤣
Harden the worst playoff performer in the top 50 players of all time is hilarious, these guys have zero 0️⃣ clue man 😭😭😭😭😭
PG’s corner 3 with flight 55 draped all over him was the game decider!
Luka is such a defensive liability. What happened in game 3 was great team defense to protect Luka. Game 4, Luka was playing
Olé defense, and no one to contest Harden after he drove by Luka’s statue!
And an absolute ball hog, literally takes ten more shots to match Kylie’s output.
@@DeeMan17Gee, I wonder how Game 5 worked out
@@MrMathsimon the same as always, Playoff Harden returned and PG as inconsistent as ever. Never thought Clips would win series without Kawhi.
@@MrMathsimon how ‘d game 6 pan out? Oh yeah Kyrie shot unreal meanwhile Doncic just shot the ball a lot.
The headline is this is Lukas worst playoff series and the Mavs are tied.
It’s a team game ……
And kawhi is not even healthy and missed two games and it's still tied
@@DominoOrdinarioand luka is healthy? The guy can barely move…and the series is tied
@@marcviola30bullshit. Luka can barely move even without an injury. I don't see him grabbing his feet when he makes a shot. Now that he's forced to play defense and getting locked by mann he's suddenly hurt? I guess he's only hurt when mann is defending him and when he's playing defense.
Ok??? The clippers are missing their best player
Harden literally did this in the playoffs last year it shouldn't be shocking
Stop it harden has been consistent for every game this series this year
Harden usually shuts it down and/or checks out when his team is facing elimination. Check his playoff career in games where his team’s season is on the line. The receipts are literally there.
Paul George NEEDS to get more aggressive in the 2nd half, great game for him, but he stopped looking for his shot and just started standing in the corner watching the Mavs chip away at the lead
Doesn't Russillo know that Cuban is no longer the Mavericks majority owner? Joaquin Phoenix's twin sold the team for a cool $3.5B, 10 times what he paid for originally. "If you're Cuban and Dallas doesn't get through this...?" Huh? Cuban doesn't make the major decisions anymore.
He's not the majority owner anymore, but I think he is still involved in basketball operations.
He's not majority owner anymore, but he's still in charge of basketball decisions
He still makes all the decisions. Got a sweet deal out of the sale.
It's not like he sold the team 10 years ago, lol
Somebody should tell Mark because he’s still on the court warming up with the team pre game
22:54 pushing the ball up gets you a lot of unnecessary turnovers.
They seemed to forget this is the first time in 4 playoff runs that Luka hasn’t been dominant.
Dominant? The Clips sent him packing TWICE.... Dominant in stats but no wins means NOTHING.... You're in the playoffs for a CHAMPIONSHIP🤔🇹🇹
No, they realize that his dominance yesterday is irrelevant today. It’s a different game. Different players. Different team.
@@ObiAmajoyiSrMD Very sensible reply.👍🇹🇹
And it seems to be wasting away his best shot at MVP so far in his career, though Joker is 70% a lock t y and there's some chance they'll give it to Tatum or possibly SGA
10:19 you can also ask what happens if Harden takes as many shots as Luka :s all the talk about Harden but we've seen how good he can be...
Harden playoffs woes have been greatly exaggerated
The team as a whole for clippers is a way better team than the mavs even w/o Kawhi!! After game 1 I kept telling everyone they can win series w/o him. The numbers and rankings in all categories all season long are in clippers favor!! This is the reason they got harden bc they knew there was a good chance that Kawhi would get injured. The clippers knew this from the beginning . Why you think the clippers figured it out w/o Kawhi that quick. That 7-2 stretch at the end beating good teams was the proof in the pudding. Think about it for a sec if the clippers are that bad as a team and chokers as people say then why are the clipping on all cylinders!! Mavs are overrated!! They beat no one and SOS was soft!! Just saying!!
If kawhi’s healthy the clippers win in 5
Kawhi is not healthy he’s ruled out for game 5
I think loss in this series hurt Clippers more. I don't know why Simmons picked Dallas. Dallas can just readjust, Clippers almost have nowhere to go.
They forgot the Clippers traded 10 years of picks😂
Hurts Dallas more because they would have a team that couldn't beat a team missing their best player. That's not a good sign for the future.
@@marqueswalker81yeah but that team still has 3 other hall of famers
@@Stephenn282021-2022 Lakers had damn near 8 hall of famers
@@Stephenn28hall of famers that non of are in their prime. Kwahi always injured too
That George corner bs 3 will haunt me if we lose this series.
That was so stupid
Paul George is so complicated. He has the talent to be an all time great, but he refuses to play like one consistently.
I feel that way too - Celts porzingas too - hd should avg 25 &12 in his sleep - 30 &15 fully motivated - Rasheed Wallace same thing - guys are way too talented for what they produce
AD another one, has wild games then barely even shoots in the next one.
I'm waiting for the game where Luka and Kyrie are both hot from the start of the game. It's seems like it's due.
Yup, thinking the same.
What happened to Simmons idol, Daniel Gafford??
They want to Mavs to win SOOO badly lmao
Yes but they want kyrie to fail and it be luka, bill employs too many Jews to be seen to enjoy kyrie🤷♂️😂
@@TheMrbc74 hahahaha. NBA HATES KYRIE. plus he unjabbed LOL. they ll turn the magnets ons dont matter who on the other team.
Bill doesn’t like to talk about the Knicks when things go well for them
Mavs aren’t in same position as suns and clippers. Clippers are all old . Mavs don’t have picks but they have luka, Gafford, lively, green, pj Washington who are all under 25 and have no playoff experience. So they’ll get better. Bill you not watch game 2 luka took the game completely over.
Bill has a bit of a weird anti-Luka vibe lately. It's a bit weird considering how high he was on him since the draft.
If kawhi was healthy clippers was sweeping
clippers and harden particularly can play well and their choke genes dont get activated because they see that luka is "weak", playing trash. if luka would be luka, they'd choke. but luka isn't
Harden chokes more as the series goes on
@@MrOctober44 yea in theory. I really think luka needs to step up to trigger the choking but we will see. game 7 would be fun
Yep Luka does have a point to prove now. Especially in the press conference he took responsibility by saying he’s let down Kyrie by not playing well. So let’s see if he can step up
Clippers and Mavs seems like the most physical teams in the playoffs. This series should have been WCF. This is 80/90's basketball with the skill of the current NBA.
You won’t a greater ‘heads up their own asses’ duo than this pod
I don't think bill and ryen understand how SMART harden is...his BASKETBALL IQ enables him to remain effective...I don't expect them to understand that, though...they aren't as good at breaking down plays...like a JJ Redick
They don’t
“Somehow”? He’s been fouled 3 times on that same knee by the Clippers. Then you add Westbrick hitting him in the head after the whistle and jerking him around by his shooting arm on an ejection tech….gee, I wonder why he’s gimpy.
Dallas bigs need to be bit better, as does Luka’s knee or Clips will move on.
If Mavs win will ppl still create excuses for Russ, Harden and PG?
PG3 to the lakers. Make it happen. Thats a championship caliber team, and he gets to stay in LA.
Ummm..... Kyrie has played 3 games in a first round matchup against a #4 seed. I don't know know about you, by my standards for being called a "really impactful playoff player" are a little bit higher than that.
We found the Jew
@@Joel_Huaracha Na. I'm just a guy that doesn't believe the world is flat.
@@Joel_Huarachahis Jewishness will not allow him to acknowledge kyrie’s greatness😂
You must be Jewish.
Clippers have home court .
Bottom line is Clippers shot 63% from 3 and they probably won't do that again
What you mean they’ve done that plenty of times in the regular season. They have been one of the best 3 point shooting teams for the last few years lol
Important except whoever wins gets rolled by OKC.
the discussion around 18:40 is dumb. no way you feel worse with a young team fighting the clippers and losing than vice versa. no way
I think the issue is more that Luka got a couple years left under contract and he could leave if they not winning.
@@alexjjgreen Luka has the biggest extension in the history of the sport coming up. I think He is going to stay in Dallas for a little longer
@@alexjjgreen If the Mavs were flailing around, then I could see Luka wanting out. But this Mavs team is pretty good. I think Luka has not been good enough this series. Maybe next year he will take it serious and get in shape.
@@alexjjgreen they won at close to the best rate in the league post-trade deadline. 65 win team next season for sure.
@@xxdemestrosxx extensions are great and all but they don't keep players around without a restriction - and not nearly as well as winning ever does.
as great as kyrie played, man he had alot of costly turnovers
Bill changes his opinion on kyrie every few business days one day kyries done nothing for years next he expected an amazing performance from him lol
Joel is operating on half a knee and face, and we're spending actual time on Luka being "gimpy" lol. You all are a big joke
Luka flexing like an idiot when he was having a bad game set harden and PG off, they saw that as the ultimate disrespect
im so glad everyone was able to see jason kidd is the worst coach in the league on national television
It is funny giving a ton of credit to SGA for beating up a Pelicans team without Zion and BI just coming back from injury. Luka has done far more in the playoffs than SGA and Bill loves to talk out of his ass. Ryen gives him those looks but he has to call him out when he says dumb shit.
how is bill gonna claim the mavs are in worse shape if they lose because of assets? has he looked at the clippers future assets lately? dude is such a jabroni
your son might own the clippers by the time they win a chip
The harden playoff woes are extremely exaggerated
Harden does not have one of the worst playoff resumes....the media loves to trash harden for no reason
Ok casual, lol
@MrOctober44 yea a guy with 4 conference finals appearances, 1 finals appearance, never been swept, took the best team ever put together 7 games and probably would've won if second best player didn't get injured....yea definitely not the worse playoff resume while guys like tmac never been out the first round, dame been to one conference final, ai been out the first round twice
@@maliikwright1666Lol. I didn't realize this was a Dame vs Harden debate. Nice try to change the subject. 👍. I didn't realize we gave prizes for "probably".
@MrOctober44 it's not a harden vs lillard debate, in the video he said harden had the worst playoff resume, I'm pointing out obvious star players that have worse playoff resumes to show that harden doesn't have the worse playoff resume
@@maliikwright1666 I'll agree that Dame is totally overrated with his playoff reputation.
That was a lil cheap shit at Gil.🤔 I wonder y
Gilbert Arenas....Bill?? 😅 Jesus christ.
Kawhi retire
22:29 it has to do with jokic not being quick. doesn't make sense to compare that to rondo
You can't outrun the ball though so it's great for pace to just pass it up, unless you got several really selfish shot happy players lol
@@joseeg.3041 Sure but that Pass can bei thrown by Rondo as well. It doesn't have to be the rebounder. The difference is that jokic is the rebounder and playmaker as well.
With the 2020 Lakers i would rather let have Rondo make the decision ob whether or not to push the pace than have Dwight Howard throw Touch down passes. Might be easy to digest what i am trying to say
Mavs are winning the next 2 games
Both of yaw make so many excuses for Mavs being trash clips in 7
Two phonies
Luka is clearly hurt.
Mentally?
@@Chronz No. He moves without one knee. On defensive it’s obvious, but on offense his shooting moves are looking rusty
Excuses
@@kimtoncoleman8934it’s not an excuse when he averages 30+ pt triple double against them. Just imagine he had an awful game with 29/10/10 😅
@@kimtoncoleman8934Man his knee is literally bleeding in every game so it is not an excuse. But this is all about teams so we have to see what happens in the next games. We are going to enjoy a lot the next games.
Clippers 90% winning in game 5. With Luka injured, Mavs no chance. Only idiots will bet for the Mavs.
Bill Simmons you know nothing about basketball 😂 pg has dropped 20+ in 21 of his last 22 playoff games
Lol no. Joker kicks the ball up the court so his doughy ass dont need to run.
Prime arenas was way better than Paul George his knees were just cooked
What was that prime, one season?
@@MrOctober44 3 years of average 28+ in the dead ball era
On one end of the court for about 3-4 years maybe