ok, in all seriousness , I’ve watched too many videos on this subject and I have to tell you that this is by far the best and most usefull explanation I have seen. Thank you for making this and PLEASE make more videos like this!
Ryan Monette Still learning so excuse a noob question :)... I see that you apply denoise quite late in the chain, whereas I have seen many recommendations that it should be done somewhere at the beginning of the chain. Is there a reason that you use it so late? Are there situations where you would use it earlier in the chain? Tnx. P.S. yes, I am rewatching this :D
@@ekredel I honestly go back and forth with it. Just like "do you EQ before or after compression?" To my thought process, if I'm compressing a signal, basically pushing the louder parts down, and bringing the quieter parts up, I would imagine that makes the de-noising easier to separate between voice and noise. But hey, I could be wrong too! haha Recently, especially with the use of headsets, I've been rendering out the dialogue track with an Izotope spectral de-noise, before any plugins. Another thought to de-noising late in the chain, if I have an EQ on before de-noising, with a hard high-pass filter, and low-pass filter, that makes the work of the de-noiser easier and maybe even more natural sounding. At the end of the day, I don't think there is an exact right or wrong method to do this, just whatever sounds and translates best :)
I had to stop the video and comment because I felt this is so underrated and needs way more views. Thank you so much, I'm producing a small animation series and helped a lot. Definetly I'm subscribing.
Thank you so very much! It's definitely one of those topics people don't go too much into detail about. I remember searching all over TH-cam for something like this when I was newer to mixing dialogue. I'm extremely glad it can be a useful resource to you and others.
best lesson on this topic so far! thanks for that. Glad that it was just one last step, wait no later there were one and a half last steps, and then finaly ONE LAST STEP :D that was funny but it showed that u are very precise and take care for the details
Exactly what I've been looking for the last couple of months...a step-by-step tutorial that's detailed but yet to the point! I'm a voice talent who's trying to learn how to mix and everything up to your video focused on singing vocals and not narration/voiceover. Now to get to work! Thanks!
You're exactly the niche of people I was hoping this would be most helpful for! I'm so glad you enjoyed it and got a lot out of it! Let me know how else I can help you!
best video beginning i have EVER seen on youtube EVER and i use this plattform for over 12 years. freaking amazing. loved it. now im going to watch the rest
I love this video, Ryan! Thanks for taking the time to create it! I bet you've helped thousands of people with this video alone! Was curious what camera you used on this one to film yourself? The quality is great!
Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement, Brett! Means a lot! My aim was definitely to have this be as helpful as possible to anyone and everyone. I used a Sony A7 iii when I filmed this.
Excellent tutorial Ryan! You get right to the point. It's hard for me to carve out 50 mins and I rarely do that but this was worth it. Maybe a little above my head, but no pain no gain. Charlotte is a beautiful city! I started my production company there 46 years ago. Thanks!
@@RyanMonette Is there somewhere I can donate to you? This was one of the most amazing game changing videos I've watched on this subject. Honestly it almost feels wrong to have received this information for free because of how well made the video was and how long the duration is. I really do appreciate that you put the time into this for randoms.
@@ThickFreedom Wow! Thank you for such an amazing compliment! I'm considering making a store on my website to sell some of my templates. Working on that soon. Maybe I'll add a donate option on the site as well? I appreciate your spirit of kindness and generosity. If you are interested in more, I hope to be producing more content in the coming weeks. I also have an online course at classes.productiononline.com/p/post-production-mixing Thank you again for the encouraging words :)
This was an incredible video man. Thank you so much for laying this all out and showing step by step all the tools and how you use them. I make music and I've been dabbling with some spoken word on one of my tracks and this helped a ton. Knowing to take off only like 3db in compression (I would have thought more) and the subtle moves to carve out space with EQ and sidechained multiband EQ was clutch. I need to get that loudness meter too, that seems like a huge help to workflow
"Are we done? Not quite. There's one more step!" I love that! You are just the best person I've found that explains all of this stuff! Do you have any suggestions for free daws? One that can do the things that like Pro Tools? Or at least close enough? The thing is I have no money to pay for Pro Tools because it's a subscription but. Thanks for your help!
So glad this has been both helpful and enjoyable for you! I appreciate your words of encouragement! Audacity has been a widely used free DAW for many years. If you are on a mac computer, GarageBand is also a great choice.
Oh! That was a fast response! Yeah I currently use Garage Band. Also, don't think that you're getting to complicated when you say "One more step" some people will find it complicated but there are people like me that benefit from your explanations! Keep making more videos! I love both of your videos that you have!
@@josuethefilmaker Thank you again for the wonderful encouragement! Means a lot! I have more videos I'd love to make, just a matter of carving out the time :)
@@RyanMonette Hi Ryan, I have just started voice over (Psalms) project for Urdu, Hindi and Punjabi speaking people and been looking for some help. I must say it has been extremely helpful.
Excellent video! Nicely explained and really well presented too. Helpful and inspirational. Best video I've found on the subject of voice over mixing, Thank you !
I have it but haven't dabbled too much in it. I have though been using Neutron 3 Sculptor a bit lately, and that really helps when multiple voices re involved, gluing them together tonally.
Thank you so much for this accurate step by step tutorial, it helped me a lot to find a good way to mix a voice over for a new project so thank you again for taking your time to share with us your process (and thanks for your passion while explaining it!)
Fantastic Job! I watched the whole thing and honestly this gives me the confidence to start my voice over work. My friend talks about your church all the time. Might have to make the far trip out of the way and go! God bless.
Will Blanton Thanks so much! Really god you found it helpful and best of luck with your voice over work!! You’re always welcome to check out elevation online at elevationchurch.online
Have you tried applying these effects in real time through something like audio hijack and loopback, or would it introduce too much latency when streaming concurrently with video?
@@ThomasPosen That's kind of a long answer. In short, there are ways to do this live with very little latency. My preferred method would be using Waves SoundGrid Studio and a Waves SoundGrid server.
Ok how did you add the music bed track in? I master dialogue in isotope rx but, curious about how to add the music track? Is it a plug in or an effects chain? Great video and very helpful.
Absolutely! A lot has changed in 5 years, and dynamic EQ is now a crucial part of my workflow. I utilize Fab Filter's Pro-Q3 EQ with dynamic EQ engaged, as well as using Waves' F6 instead of the C6. Your mind is in the right place! I'll hopefully be making an updated video on this topic later this year!
Hey Ryan, I didn't see you recheck your broadcast or loudness levels after applying the L2 limiter. Did I miss something? Very informative video. Thank you!
Hey Todd, thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you found this video helpful. It depends where the final piece is going. I use loudness before the master to make sure my dynamics, in regards to loudness, are kept in check. Since this mix would be for web or podcast, my target level is at 0 dBFS on the L2 on my master. But if this were a commercial, I would have it hard limited at -10 dBFS and have the loudness meter AFTER the L2 limiter to make sure the overall mix stayed constantly at -24 LKFS. I hope that makes sense.
Excellent video I primarily use audition or lpx but I have Rx production suite and ozone 8, neutron 2. Do you think with those tools it really matters moving to avid? Appreciate any feedback
AT-AT Chat no need to move to avid if you are comfortable with what you are using. The principles apply as long has you are using similar/relatable plugins.
Terrific! I’ve been getting comments at church from our audio guy that the voice over/music track relationship isn’t consistent and you had a couple great tidbits that I can put into action. I find that depending on the volume relationship of the two he will turn the volume up or down as frequencies like the low end take over. I have been lowering those frequencies during the voiceover but I think I’ll try your suggestions of compressing and automating the best frequencies of the vocals instead. Focus more on carving out the sweet spots. Thank you!
So for all of my videos I essentially mix them at 0 dB FS and TH-cam will adjust the loudness if it needs to but it typically doesn't really affect my mixes because the way I mix when I adjust my master so that I'm limiting at -0.1 dB FS, the loudness is pretty much around where it needs to be for TH-cam. A quick google search and I found that the TH-cam loudness standard is -14 dB LUFS. So if you wanted to ensure your mix translates exactly the way you intended and hear it when you're mixing, just make sure your master loudness is averaging -14 dB LUFS.
Thank you so much for this video, Ryan! It is unbelievably helpful and i had to rewatch it a couple of times just to get the full value. I was wondering if there's a way of ducking the music frequencies using a Multiband Compressor Sidechain (17:48) in Adobe Premiere Pro? I didn't want to get Pro Tools just because of this feature :(
You indeed can make an audio bus track in Premiere Pro (called a submix track in Premiere Pro). From there, you can use Waves or any audio VST (and AU) plugins within Premiere as well. So you most definitely can do all this in Premiere Pro :)
Big big thank you!!! This is extremely helpful when you got to the let's listen to it one more time it felt like graduation day happy to me :) I'll go try this nowww! Thanks again Ryan :)))))))
Hi bro, thanks for this video. The subject is exactly what I need but, because you’re on Pro Tools and not GarageBand, I struggled to follow! Do you know of any decent videos to help with a simple VO/music mix for film? Cheers!
The same principles still apply in any DAW. Understanding the thought process behind each step, will help you translate it to whatever specific tool you use. Take a look at this for a simplified process on the subject... th-cam.com/video/DoH7v9kociM/w-d-xo.html
What a great video. I learned so much. My only question is: don’t most television deliverables require 5.1 surround sound? I was recently offered an opportunity to mix a voiceover with a stereo song for a commercial, but 5.1 was required. That being said, I don’t have Pro Tools HD, just the standard 12.1.7.
Thanks for the kind words! It's all circumstantial. Regardless, the principles in this video still apply to whatever channel count you are mixing for. If you want to get into the nitty-gritty, feel free to reach out via the contact page on my website. I'm happy to help out however I can. www.ryanmonette.com/contact
@@RyanMonette Thanks Ryan! Turns out my Pro-Tools (not HD) doesn't have 5.1 capability, so no big deal there. Again, great video and enjoyable presentation!
Great tutorial! Love it. I do have a question though. At the end of this tutorial, you showed how you would bring the music back in 100% after the voice-over is over. But what if the voice-over ISN'T over? What if it comes back in a few seconds later? Do you then take away the frequencies and such AGAIN the same way it was put back in? Let's say there is 8 - 10 seconds of just music in between voice over bits. And let's say there are a few voice over bits separated by the 8 - 10 seconds of music. How would you mix that?
I'm so glad to hear you found this tutorial helpful! Every project is unique and will call for whatever is best for that project and the vibe it is wanting to convey. If I were to be mixing a project like the one you are describing, with so much space between VO portions, I would want to maintain the energy of the piece, so I would automate the music EQ frequencies, the center information, and the volume back up, and then when the next portion of VO comes back, I would then automate back down that information. That's if it were a commercial type project. If there was though some sound design elements between VO moments, I might just automate the music volume and keep the EQ and center information the same so the sound design pokes out. But again, every project is unique to itself. Hopefully this helps. At the end of the day, trust the best tool you have... your ear.
great video thanx , will help me a lot! but how is your mic so loud even though you are far away from it (its sits over your head basically)? and shouldnt denoising be the first plugin in the chain when the noise is still raw and even and not compressed?
Glad you found this helpful! To answer your question, that's just the art of capturing location audio for film. I encourage you to do some research on boom/shotgun mics for film. You'll find a lot out there.
Thank you for your kind and encouraging words! Pro Tools in my opinion is still the best and most widely used professionally. Has anything changed in my workflow? Not too much. I've simplified the amount of processing and the order of which on dialogue VO, and I've dabbled in using Waves F6 instead of the C6 for the music track and setting the side-chain to only the middle of the stereo image as opposed to both L&R, if that makes sense.
@@RyanMonette im learning this from 0. I just want to dub (vocals) voices mixed with music for training videos. It's hard to get the music to help the voice out so it's more engaging instead of sleepy boring. The voices and music are horrible together right now. But your video is still the best I have seen today. I have been non-stop learning so I can understand what you did here. I understand the concepts. But the plugins + DAW, plus all the new jargon. I'll need a few days. But so far, what you did right here, is all I need to learn lol I can tell .. this is your trade, passion, etc. I was wowed by your teaching energy and techniques. Great Job
@@mindful_clip Thank you so much! I'm really glad it has been helpful and it means a lot that you can feel the passion and care in it. The specific DAW and specific brand of plugins are all relative. The same concept and principles still apply no matter what DAW and brand of plugins you use. Take a look into the "Content Creator Audio Toolkit" from Waves. It has pretty much everything you need to make the voice sound great and blended with music.
@@RyanMonetteLooks perfect. I ran into your video in Waves Audio regarding Soundgrid Studio Quickstart lol I left a nice comment for you there. I think from here I can focus a lot more thanks! I was rolling in the dirt lost..you gave me some crutches and said go. TY lol
Thanks a lot Ryan for this awesome video! Very helpful I'm working on a project right now with music+voice+sfxs and my final master is around -15 lufs. That means I over compressed? It's for a video and probably will go on youtube and I read that -16 lufs will be ok for TH-cam. Do you confirm? Cheers
So glad you found this helpful! LUFS is just a measurement of loudness and can be set to whatever the desired target. If you're hitting around -15 LUFS, that doesn't mean you are over-compressed. Using this video as an example, I use -24, but if my target were to be 15, I'd just raise the faders appropriately. Does that makes sense how that doesn't add any more compression? If -16 LUFS is the target, TH-cam might compress it to make your -15 meet their standards, but that shouldn't really make a difference. For example, this video that I uploaded, I uploaded at 0 dB.
@@RyanMonette amazing thank you. So If the whole project sounds quite balanced (0db -10rms) and around -15 lufs I don't have to worry about the platform used to play the video.
@@animattialeleo7231 Happy to help! If you feel you have a good balance and you're hitting the target level of your loudness meter that matches the target of the platform (TH-cam, Spotify, Apple Music, Netflix, TV stations... they are all different standards) you are going to be delivering to, then you should be good to go.
Hey thanks for the brilliant video, I learned a lot! Can you please tell me how many Lufs a podcast should typically be for distributing on streaming platforms? I'm currently mixing to -16, but the waves meter says I'm over with that amount. Thanks again
They're all slightly different, wether it's Spotify or Apple. Podcasts in general are around -16 LUFS. There should be a podcast preset on the WLM. You can also look into Playlist Rider from Waves as well. Super helpful for maintaining loudness.
What's the program that you are using? Thanks for this tutorial is so helpful. I ask you this because I use audition and i don't have those plugins so helpful.
The DAW I work in, and that's most widely used, is Pro Tools. But like I said in the video, the specific "what" doesn't matter, it's the principles that matter, the "how" and "why." Audition is great. They have stock plugins that can do the same sort of things, but you can also see buy and use Waves and many other 3rd party plugins and use them as VSTs in Audition.
No one: Absolutely no one: Some random guy making tech tutorials on TH-cam: 4:55 (not referencing you btw, you do a great job with this video. just thought it was a funny joke :P)
this video was really useful but I have small doubt 'actually you have mixed entire track to -24 LUFs using waves level meter , but at last u have added L2 and boasted over all mix to particular level . can please explain what would be final LUFs value after L2 if this audio is for internet or social media
The entire mix is leveled at -24 LKFS before the L2. Doubt not. That was volume automation is for. The WLM doesn't do that for you. It's just a meter. As mentioned in the video, it's more of a reference so that perceived loudness is consistent. L2 was just to boost the entire signal. So whatever the loudness is after the L2, would still be consistent, just perceived louder. If this were a mix for TV or a commercial and had a strict loudness requirement, the use of the L2 for boosting after the WLM wouldn't be used. The process is exactly the same for what you are asking. Just set the WLM for the target you want to hit and mix to that. Or have the WLM after the L2 or whatever limiter you use (WLM Plus has one built in) and mix at a consistent loudness reference and use the limiter to raise or lower the overall mix to whatever loudness reference.
Genetics. haha, but in all seriousness, that is a topic more on the characteristics of the human voice. What Don does is unique to him and how he controls the tone and resonance of his voice. The engineers who mix him would do very similar processing to most voice overs. In short with that mixing, is very similar to how I mixed my voice in this except they might allow for a little more low end in the EQ. In terms of recording, just close proximity to a nice microphone with proper microphone technique (use of a pop-filter, etc.)
I love this comment so much. I have plans and more is on the list for sure! I’m thinking an updated version of this video and my sermon/live broadcast along with a few new ideas. I appreciate your patience!
@@RyanMonette and I have reasons for that. I'm working on a post in Ukraine, but we're in our immigration process to Canada, and your videos just show me something I have to apply there. I'd like to DM
Hey man, Thank you so much for this! This is an awesome video. Just one question... can this process be done on logic pro? We currently are using Logic Pro X
It most definitely can be done in Logic the exact same way. Just as long as you have similar plugins (any EQ, compressor, multi-band compressor will work)
quick question about the limiter at the end : if we wanted the music and voice over to be at the levels tat WLM plus preset suggested, then why make them louder at the end? doesn't do this mess with the standards? tnx again
Love that you asked that! The main reason I'm using the loudness meter in the context of this mix is mainly for reference that everything (VO and music) is perceived the same in regards to loudness. So basically the loudness meter is used only for reference, and not to meet a specific specification for final delivery. It's just a helpful visual representation to ensure everything is balanced for how the listener will perceive loudness. However when I mix TV episodes or commercials, then I absolutely export according to the loudness meter with no further gain staging.
A small caviot: as a dialogue editor we tend to spot apply mouth declick. If you blast it over the whole thing you lose many important consonants like T and K and even overtones from low voices. Edit: also, denoising should be applied BEFORE compression. Edit 2: generally when we mix music we turn it down all the way, then bring it UP until it masks the voiceover, then bring it back.
You are so very correct! A blanket of de-crackle/de-click absolutely can/will dull the tonal qualities of dialogue. 5 years later, I've for sure grown and refined my workflow with thanks to much much more professional experience. There's actually a lot that has changed in my personal workflow and is pretty much completely different now than the process in this video. Much of which is what you have pointed out. Much more rendering involved, less plugins, different signal flow, etc. I appreciate your valuable feedback! They are great tips that I hope anyone who comes to view this video sees and adopts. One of these days I'll get around to making an updated version of this video that'll include these things :)
@@RyanMonette What a testiment to you as a person and as a professional to frame my comment as constructive advice for people watching this video rather than a retort or criticism. Im sure an updated version would benefit many people. Best from Berlin
@@GingerDrums :) I appreciate you! The intent of this and any videos I make has always been and will always be to help others. I'm just a hopefully helpful steward of knowledge and experience for others.
@@RyanMonette any beginner watching this is lightyears ahead compared to many "engineers" earning money with this stuff. I'd give my thumbs to your stewardship for what it's worth up as a fellow industry professional.
omg my brother you are a very good teacher and instructor I wish more people could teach like this much respect friends for life look me up on sound cloud, please give some advice. thank you
Hey Ryan. Great content you got going here. Is it possible that you can share the PT session template you show here to test it with my podcast. I've got the same plugins you have. Thanks!
Hi! I'm so glad you found this video helpful! I do the same basic process with SFX as music. All SFX tracks go to a bus, and on that bus I have processing that is side-chained by the dialogue. Tweaking the settings appropriately for where the dialogue would sit in comparison with the SFX.
thank you so much for the information and i have a question, When we add SFX, is the same method is used for SFX or any other way or just reduce the gain?
You are most welcome! Yes, you most certainly can apply the same principles to a SFX bus, which is what I do with subtle differences in frequencies and various tweaks.
3 years later and this is still the best damn video on mixing a musicbed for voice overs out there that I’ve ever watched!!
Thank you for your kind and encouraging words!
ok, in all seriousness , I’ve watched too many videos on this subject and I have to tell you that this is by far the best and most usefull explanation I have seen. Thank you for making this and PLEASE make more videos like this!
Thank you so very much for your kind and encouraging words! More videos will definitely be on the way soon :)
Ryan Monette looking forward to it! :)
Ryan Monette Still learning so excuse a noob question :)... I see that you apply denoise quite late in the chain, whereas I have seen many recommendations that it should be done somewhere at the beginning of the chain. Is there a reason that you use it so late? Are there situations where you would use it earlier in the chain? Tnx. P.S. yes, I am rewatching this :D
@@ekredel I honestly go back and forth with it. Just like "do you EQ before or after compression?"
To my thought process, if I'm compressing a signal, basically pushing the louder parts down, and bringing the quieter parts up, I would imagine that makes the de-noising easier to separate between voice and noise. But hey, I could be wrong too! haha
Recently, especially with the use of headsets, I've been rendering out the dialogue track with an Izotope spectral de-noise, before any plugins.
Another thought to de-noising late in the chain, if I have an EQ on before de-noising, with a hard high-pass filter, and low-pass filter, that makes the work of the de-noiser easier and maybe even more natural sounding.
At the end of the day, I don't think there is an exact right or wrong method to do this, just whatever sounds and translates best :)
3 years later and this is still the best dang video for mixing a musicbed with a voice over that I’ve ever watched!!
What amazing words of encouragement! Thank you so much! So glad this has been a helpful resource for you!
This is an exceptional guide. That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. You should do more videos.
Thank you for your kind words. I’m so happy to hear you found this helpful!
I’m hoping to make more in the near future!
I had to stop the video and comment because I felt this is so underrated and needs way more views. Thank you so much, I'm producing a small animation series and helped a lot. Definetly I'm subscribing.
Thank you so very much! It's definitely one of those topics people don't go too much into detail about. I remember searching all over TH-cam for something like this when I was newer to mixing dialogue. I'm extremely glad it can be a useful resource to you and others.
@@RyanMonette really helped, you should make some other videos!
@@OppositeOfReality Definitely on the to-do list ;-)
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Wow....help me a whole bunch. This is the best I've heard so far....5 years later. !!!! Subbed
So glad you found this helpful! The was my goal, to help! And thank you for your encouraging words. Hoping to put more out in the near future!
best lesson on this topic so far! thanks for that. Glad that it was just one last step, wait no later there were one and a half last steps, and then finaly ONE LAST STEP :D that was funny but it showed that u are very precise and take care for the details
Haha I definitely do care about those details :)
I'm very glad you found the video helpful. Thank you for your kind words!
The intro of this video is not only a sound design feat, but an editing masterpiece. Subbed.
Aww thanks so much! Glad to hear you appreciated it :) Means a lot!
Exactly what I've been looking for the last couple of months...a step-by-step tutorial that's detailed but yet to the point! I'm a voice talent who's trying to learn how to mix and everything up to your video focused on singing vocals and not narration/voiceover. Now to get to work! Thanks!
You're exactly the niche of people I was hoping this would be most helpful for! I'm so glad you enjoyed it and got a lot out of it! Let me know how else I can help you!
Thanks. Very well done
Thank you so much! Glad you found it helpful.
This should have more views
haha, well thank you!
Thank you!
You are most welcome!
best video beginning i have EVER seen on youtube EVER and i use this plattform for over 12 years. freaking amazing. loved it. now im going to watch the rest
Wow! Thank you for such kind words! Very glad you enjoyed it!
I love this video, Ryan! Thanks for taking the time to create it! I bet you've helped thousands of people with this video alone! Was curious what camera you used on this one to film yourself? The quality is great!
Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement, Brett! Means a lot! My aim was definitely to have this be as helpful as possible to anyone and everyone.
I used a Sony A7 iii when I filmed this.
Excellent tutorial Ryan! You get right to the point. It's hard for me to carve out 50 mins and I rarely do that but this was worth it. Maybe a little above my head, but no pain no gain. Charlotte is a beautiful city! I started my production company there 46 years ago. Thanks!
So glad you enjoyed this and found it helpful! Your words of encouragement mean a lot!
Thank you so much it was really helpful. Please do more videos. Thanks
I'm so glad to hear you found this helpful! I have handful of ideas for more videos in the future! Thank you for the encouragement!
Brother you don’t know how much you just helped (and inspired) me!!! 🙌🏼
😄/ / much thanks!
Love hearing that! So glad this was not only helpful, but also inspirational! That's awesome!
thanks for this sick tutorial
You are most welcome! So glad you found it helpful!
Thanks Ryan.. Superb !!!...
Most welcome! Glad you found this helpful!
Fantastic video. Your explanations, along with examples, truly showcase your skill. Thanks for taking the time to make and share. Bless you.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I'm so happy to hear that this was helpful for you and in an easy to understand way.
Beautiful!
So glad you enjoy!
I have found this content not only helpful but also inspirational! Thanks!
That is so encouraging! Thank you so much! I'm really glad you found this helpful AND inspiring!
I agree. This should have more views. You explain everything so well. Thank you!
Thank you so incredibly much for the kind words! I'm hoping to make more in the future and potentially updating this one as well.
Thanks a lot for this video.
You're very welcome!
Thank you very very much for making this video!
You are very welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
@@RyanMonette Is there somewhere I can donate to you? This was one of the most amazing game changing videos I've watched on this subject. Honestly it almost feels wrong to have received this information for free because of how well made the video was and how long the duration is. I really do appreciate that you put the time into this for randoms.
@@ThickFreedom Wow! Thank you for such an amazing compliment! I'm considering making a store on my website to sell some of my templates. Working on that soon. Maybe I'll add a donate option on the site as well? I appreciate your spirit of kindness and generosity.
If you are interested in more, I hope to be producing more content in the coming weeks. I also have an online course at classes.productiononline.com/p/post-production-mixing
Thank you again for the encouraging words :)
very good explanation. Really learn a lot!
Thank you so much! Glad to hear you learned a lot!
Thanks, Ryan!! Feels like I've learned everything one needs to know about dialogue mixing.
I'm so glad to hear this was helpful for you!
This was an incredible video man. Thank you so much for laying this all out and showing step by step all the tools and how you use them. I make music and I've been dabbling with some spoken word on one of my tracks and this helped a ton. Knowing to take off only like 3db in compression (I would have thought more) and the subtle moves to carve out space with EQ and sidechained multiband EQ was clutch. I need to get that loudness meter too, that seems like a huge help to workflow
So happy to hear this was helpful for you!!!
You just saved me. Amazing video Ryan, thank you a lot!
So happy to hear you found this helpful! You are so welcome!
Fantastic information, much appreciated!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found it helpful!
Man, YOU ARE AMAZING! Watching this before celebrating new years 😇 Happy New Year 🎉
Thank you for your kind words! Here's to a great 2024!
Great video , thank you
Thank YOU!
This tutorial is incredibly helpful. And the video production quality is amazing! I am appalled that this doesn't have more views
Thank you so very much! I'm really glad you found it to be helpful. I appreciate your kind words :) More to come eventually!
I've been trying to create a VO demo but there were things about it I just couldn't get to sound right--this video helped immensely!! Thank you!!
I'm so very glad that this was helpful for you!
Exactly what I needed. Thanks man.
So happy to hear that! You are most welcome!
Simply excellent tutorial! I learned so much, thank you!
I love hearing that! Thank you so much for letting me know you enjoyed it and got a lot out of it!
"Are we done? Not quite. There's one more step!" I love that! You are just the best person I've found that explains all of this stuff! Do you have any suggestions for free daws? One that can do the things that like Pro Tools? Or at least close enough? The thing is I have no money to pay for Pro Tools because it's a subscription but. Thanks for your help!
So glad this has been both helpful and enjoyable for you! I appreciate your words of encouragement!
Audacity has been a widely used free DAW for many years. If you are on a mac computer, GarageBand is also a great choice.
Oh! That was a fast response! Yeah I currently use Garage Band. Also, don't think that you're getting to complicated when you say "One more step" some people will find it complicated but there are people like me that benefit from your explanations! Keep making more videos! I love both of your videos that you have!
@@josuethefilmaker Thank you again for the wonderful encouragement! Means a lot! I have more videos I'd love to make, just a matter of carving out the time :)
Agree this would have many more views. It has been explained very well.
I'm glad it was helpful for you! Thank you for your kind words.
@@RyanMonette Hi Ryan, I have just started voice over (Psalms) project for Urdu, Hindi and Punjabi speaking people and been looking for some help. I must say it has been extremely helpful.
@@learningessential9261 Wow! That's amazing! I'm so happy this has been a helpful resource for you!
This improved my mix so much, thank you!!
So happy to hear that! You are most welcome!
Excellent video! Nicely explained and really well presented too. Helpful and inspirational. Best video I've found on the subject of voice over mixing, Thank you !
Thank you for such kind words! I appreciate your feedback and am so happy you found this helpful!
Very in depth explanation... one could definitely spend hours and hours perfecting audio mixes. Love it !
Thank you! I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed this and found it helpful.
Have you tried insight 2? The dialogue clarity module.
I have it but haven't dabbled too much in it. I have though been using Neutron 3 Sculptor a bit lately, and that really helps when multiple voices re involved, gluing them together tonally.
Epic! 🔥
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow, you are a magician, I learned so much, thanks!
So happy to hear you found this helpful! I'm glad I could be of assistance to you!
Thank You!!! Love your work!!!
Thank you very much! I'm so glad you found this helpful!
amazing
Thank you! I'm glad you found this helpful!
How beautifully explained. wow. Thankyou so much :)
You are most welcome! Thank you for the kind words!
very helpful, thanks so much
Most welcome! So glad it was helpful for you!
Thank you so much for this accurate step by step tutorial, it helped me a lot to find a good way to mix a voice over for a new project so thank you again for taking your time to share with us your process (and thanks for your passion while explaining it!)
Thank YOU for reaching out and sharing how much it helped you! Your words are very encouraging. I'm very glad to hear that you found this helpful!
@@RyanMonette Absolutely, and I'll continue to follow your channel for sure :) thank you again for sharing and for your kind words!
@@nicolaspandolfi94 Thank you so much! Hopefully I'll get some new helpful content up in the near future!
Thank you so much for this Tutorial! Very informative and helpful
You are so very welcome! I'm so glad you found it helpful!
Fantastic Job! I watched the whole thing and honestly this gives me the confidence to start my voice over work. My friend talks about your church all the time. Might have to make the far trip out of the way and go! God bless.
Will Blanton Thanks so much! Really god you found it helpful and best of luck with your voice over work!! You’re always welcome to check out elevation online at elevationchurch.online
Brilliant content! Thank you very much 🙏🏼
You are most welcome! Thank YOU for reaching out! Glad you found this helpful!
THNX!
You are so welcome!
I learned a lot from this video, thank you
I'm so glad to hear this was helpful for you! You are most welcome!
Can you do a studio tour of your equipment?
Great idea! I'll add it to the to-do list!
@@RyanMonette Appreciate it. What's the piece of equipment above the white keyboard? I've learned so much from this video.
@@dspoet1 Avid Artist Control and Artist Mix. You can see my other video to answer some of your questions.
This is wonderful and very well done. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skills!
You are most welcome! I'm so glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful!
Have you tried applying these effects in real time through something like audio hijack and loopback, or would it introduce too much latency when streaming concurrently with video?
By the way your intro was art. I was blown away.
@@ThomasPosen Haha, thank you very much!
@@ThomasPosen That's kind of a long answer. In short, there are ways to do this live with very little latency. My preferred method would be using Waves SoundGrid Studio and a Waves SoundGrid server.
Ok how did you add the music bed track in? I master dialogue in isotope rx but, curious about how to add the music track? Is it a plug in or an effects chain?
Great video and very helpful.
Glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful.
Just simply import whatever audio or music track into the DAW you use on a new track.
Mixing inception LOL. Great video, thank you.
Haha, you are most welcome!
Oh man this is gold! Great to have a look over your shoulder I learned a lot and subscribed within the first 3 minutes of your awesome video. 😁
Thank you so much for the kind words! I hope to be producing more content soon! Thank you for your support!!
@@RyanMonette you're very welcome!
How about some Dynamic eq at 16:20 ? 👀
Absolutely! A lot has changed in 5 years, and dynamic EQ is now a crucial part of my workflow. I utilize Fab Filter's Pro-Q3 EQ with dynamic EQ engaged, as well as using Waves' F6 instead of the C6. Your mind is in the right place!
I'll hopefully be making an updated video on this topic later this year!
@@RyanMonette Brilliant 👌🏾. Great video by the way, please do more of this stuff… tv commercials etc.
@@hadedafx Thank you for your kind words! The goal is to absolutely have more on the way!
We not going to use C6 side chain mentioned in this video? @@RyanMonette
@@hightide1500 I use the F6 instead of the C6 now for when I side chain dialogue into music. I have more control with it.
Hello bro! Nice video! Why dont you make a video about what gear you are using?
Glad you enjoyed the video! I might eventually, but I've changed locations, my office, and gear. So I'm still in transition at the moment.
Hey Ryan, I didn't see you recheck your broadcast or loudness levels after applying the L2 limiter. Did I miss something? Very informative video. Thank you!
Hey Todd, thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you found this video helpful. It depends where the final piece is going. I use loudness before the master to make sure my dynamics, in regards to loudness, are kept in check. Since this mix would be for web or podcast, my target level is at 0 dBFS on the L2 on my master. But if this were a commercial, I would have it hard limited at -10 dBFS and have the loudness meter AFTER the L2 limiter to make sure the overall mix stayed constantly at -24 LKFS. I hope that makes sense.
Excellent video
I primarily use audition or lpx but I have Rx production suite and ozone 8, neutron 2.
Do you think with those tools it really matters moving to avid?
Appreciate any feedback
AT-AT Chat no need to move to avid if you are comfortable with what you are using. The principles apply as long has you are using similar/relatable plugins.
@@RyanMonette appreciate the reply!
I don’t know how to thank you 🙏🏻 I love you ❤️
Haha, well you are most welcome!
Terrific! I’ve been getting comments at church from our audio guy that the voice over/music track relationship isn’t consistent and you had a couple great tidbits that I can put into action. I find that depending on the volume relationship of the two he will turn the volume up or down as frequencies like the low end take over. I have been lowering those frequencies during the voiceover but I think I’ll try your suggestions of compressing and automating the best frequencies of the vocals instead. Focus more on carving out the sweet spots. Thank you!
Happy this was helpful for you!
What about overall levels for TH-cam?
So for all of my videos I essentially mix them at 0 dB FS and TH-cam will adjust the loudness if it needs to but it typically doesn't really affect my mixes because the way I mix when I adjust my master so that I'm limiting at -0.1 dB FS, the loudness is pretty much around where it needs to be for TH-cam. A quick google search and I found that the TH-cam loudness standard is -14 dB LUFS. So if you wanted to ensure your mix translates exactly the way you intended and hear it when you're mixing, just make sure your master loudness is averaging -14 dB LUFS.
Thank you so much for this video, Ryan! It is unbelievably helpful and i had to rewatch it a couple of times just to get the full value. I was wondering if there's a way of ducking the music frequencies using a Multiband Compressor Sidechain (17:48) in Adobe Premiere Pro? I didn't want to get Pro Tools just because of this feature :(
You indeed can make an audio bus track in Premiere Pro (called a submix track in Premiere Pro). From there, you can use Waves or any audio VST (and AU) plugins within Premiere as well. So you most definitely can do all this in Premiere Pro :)
@@RyanMonette Thank you again, Ryan. Have a nice week!
Big big thank you!!! This is extremely helpful when you got to the let's listen to it one more time it felt like graduation day happy to me :) I'll go try this nowww! Thanks again Ryan :)))))))
So happy to hear that this was helpful for you!
Thanks a lot man! This is so useful and clearly explained. It helps a lot!
You're most welcome! I'm so glad to hear you found this helpful!
Hi bro, thanks for this video. The subject is exactly what I need but, because you’re on Pro Tools and not GarageBand, I struggled to follow!
Do you know of any decent videos to help with a simple VO/music mix for film? Cheers!
The same principles still apply in any DAW. Understanding the thought process behind each step, will help you translate it to whatever specific tool you use.
Take a look at this for a simplified process on the subject...
th-cam.com/video/DoH7v9kociM/w-d-xo.html
Ryan Monette thank you 👍
I love it! Soooooo helpful! thank you Ryan!
So glad it was helpful for you!
Good job. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Thank YOU! I'm glad you found this helpful!
What a great video. I learned so much. My only question is: don’t most television deliverables require 5.1 surround sound? I was recently offered an opportunity to mix a voiceover with a stereo song for a commercial, but 5.1 was required. That being said, I don’t have Pro Tools HD, just the standard 12.1.7.
Thanks for the kind words! It's all circumstantial. Regardless, the principles in this video still apply to whatever channel count you are mixing for. If you want to get into the nitty-gritty, feel free to reach out via the contact page on my website. I'm happy to help out however I can.
www.ryanmonette.com/contact
@@RyanMonette Thanks Ryan! Turns out my Pro-Tools (not HD) doesn't have 5.1 capability, so no big deal there. Again, great video and enjoyable presentation!
Great tutorial! Love it. I do have a question though. At the end of this tutorial, you showed how you would bring the music back in 100% after the voice-over is over. But what if the voice-over ISN'T over? What if it comes back in a few seconds later? Do you then take away the frequencies and such AGAIN the same way it was put back in? Let's say there is 8 - 10 seconds of just music in between voice over bits. And let's say there are a few voice over bits separated by the 8 - 10 seconds of music. How would you mix that?
I'm so glad to hear you found this tutorial helpful! Every project is unique and will call for whatever is best for that project and the vibe it is wanting to convey. If I were to be mixing a project like the one you are describing, with so much space between VO portions, I would want to maintain the energy of the piece, so I would automate the music EQ frequencies, the center information, and the volume back up, and then when the next portion of VO comes back, I would then automate back down that information. That's if it were a commercial type project. If there was though some sound design elements between VO moments, I might just automate the music volume and keep the EQ and center information the same so the sound design pokes out. But again, every project is unique to itself. Hopefully this helps. At the end of the day, trust the best tool you have... your ear.
@@RyanMonette Thanks so much!
@@charlie6464 Most welcome!
Great tutorial! God bless you
Thank you so very much! I'm so glad it could help you!
Awesome video! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge, I learned so much. I love your Disney World wallpapers, where did you find them?
I'm so glad you found this helpful! Thank you for your kind words. They are actually photos I took myself :)
@@RyanMonette Wow, that's awesome! I didn't realize that you are a photographer too.
@@patrickdail3508 Yes indeed!
great video thanx , will help me a lot!
but how is your mic so loud even though you are far away from it (its sits over your head basically)? and shouldnt denoising be the first plugin in the chain when the noise is still raw and even and not compressed?
Glad you found this helpful!
To answer your question, that's just the art of capturing location audio for film. I encourage you to do some research on boom/shotgun mics for film. You'll find a lot out there.
Great video! What's the best software to use now? Anything change in 2 years. Great teacher.
Thank you for your kind and encouraging words! Pro Tools in my opinion is still the best and most widely used professionally. Has anything changed in my workflow? Not too much. I've simplified the amount of processing and the order of which on dialogue VO, and I've dabbled in using Waves F6 instead of the C6 for the music track and setting the side-chain to only the middle of the stereo image as opposed to both L&R, if that makes sense.
@@RyanMonette im learning this from 0. I just want to dub (vocals) voices mixed with music for training videos. It's hard to get the music to help the voice out so it's more engaging instead of sleepy boring. The voices and music are horrible together right now. But your video is still the best I have seen today. I have been non-stop learning so I can understand what you did here. I understand the concepts. But the plugins + DAW, plus all the new jargon. I'll need a few days. But so far, what you did right here, is all I need to learn lol I can tell .. this is your trade, passion, etc. I was wowed by your teaching energy and techniques. Great Job
@@mindful_clip Thank you so much! I'm really glad it has been helpful and it means a lot that you can feel the passion and care in it. The specific DAW and specific brand of plugins are all relative. The same concept and principles still apply no matter what DAW and brand of plugins you use. Take a look into the "Content Creator Audio Toolkit" from Waves. It has pretty much everything you need to make the voice sound great and blended with music.
@@RyanMonetteLooks perfect. I ran into your video in Waves Audio regarding Soundgrid Studio Quickstart lol I left a nice comment for you there. I think from here I can focus a lot more thanks!
I was rolling in the dirt lost..you gave me some crutches and said go. TY lol
@@mindful_clip haha, well thank you again for your kind words. I'm happy I was able to help. You got this!
ryan that was very detailed and it really helped me out thanks bro you just got a new sub
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm so glad you found it helpful! I've got more in mind to hopefully post in the near future!
@@RyanMonette dont stop making content like this, it shows great quality bro keep it coming
Cristian Fozzatti I really appreciate the feedback! Very encouraging and definitely inspires me to do just as you suggest!
Thanks a lot Ryan for this awesome video! Very helpful
I'm working on a project right now with music+voice+sfxs and my final master is around -15 lufs. That means I over compressed? It's for a video and probably will go on youtube and I read that -16 lufs will be ok for TH-cam. Do you confirm? Cheers
So glad you found this helpful! LUFS is just a measurement of loudness and can be set to whatever the desired target. If you're hitting around -15 LUFS, that doesn't mean you are over-compressed. Using this video as an example, I use -24, but if my target were to be 15, I'd just raise the faders appropriately. Does that makes sense how that doesn't add any more compression? If -16 LUFS is the target, TH-cam might compress it to make your -15 meet their standards, but that shouldn't really make a difference. For example, this video that I uploaded, I uploaded at 0 dB.
@@RyanMonette amazing thank you.
So If the whole project sounds quite balanced (0db -10rms) and around -15 lufs I don't have to worry about the platform used to play the video.
@@animattialeleo7231 Happy to help! If you feel you have a good balance and you're hitting the target level of your loudness meter that matches the target of the platform (TH-cam, Spotify, Apple Music, Netflix, TV stations... they are all different standards) you are going to be delivering to, then you should be good to go.
Hey thanks for the brilliant video, I learned a lot! Can you please tell me how many Lufs a podcast should typically be for distributing on streaming platforms? I'm currently mixing to -16, but the waves meter says I'm over with that amount. Thanks again
They're all slightly different, wether it's Spotify or Apple. Podcasts in general are around -16 LUFS. There should be a podcast preset on the WLM. You can also look into Playlist Rider from Waves as well. Super helpful for maintaining loudness.
you deserve more than 1M views lol you are so good
Thank you so much!
this video was great help! and really enjoyable. love the intro!
So glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful! Thank you for the feedback!
What's the program that you are using? Thanks for this tutorial is so helpful. I ask you this because I use audition and i don't have those plugins so helpful.
The DAW I work in, and that's most widely used, is Pro Tools. But like I said in the video, the specific "what" doesn't matter, it's the principles that matter, the "how" and "why."
Audition is great. They have stock plugins that can do the same sort of things, but you can also see buy and use Waves and many other 3rd party plugins and use them as VSTs in Audition.
@@RyanMonette Thank you so much Ryan!! great work
@@samy.filmmaker Most welcome!
Starts at 2:25
Thank you so much
You are most welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Some random guy making tech tutorials on TH-cam: 4:55
(not referencing you btw, you do a great job with this video. just thought it was a funny joke :P)
this video was really useful but I have small doubt 'actually you have mixed entire track to -24 LUFs using waves level meter , but at last u have added L2 and boasted over all mix to particular level . can please explain what would be final LUFs value after L2 if this audio is for internet or social media
The entire mix is leveled at -24 LKFS before the L2. Doubt not. That was volume automation is for. The WLM doesn't do that for you. It's just a meter. As mentioned in the video, it's more of a reference so that perceived loudness is consistent. L2 was just to boost the entire signal. So whatever the loudness is after the L2, would still be consistent, just perceived louder.
If this were a mix for TV or a commercial and had a strict loudness requirement, the use of the L2 for boosting after the WLM wouldn't be used.
The process is exactly the same for what you are asking. Just set the WLM for the target you want to hit and mix to that. Or have the WLM after the L2 or whatever limiter you use (WLM Plus has one built in) and mix at a consistent loudness reference and use the limiter to raise or lower the overall mix to whatever loudness reference.
@@RyanMonette thank you so much for the information.
@@yathirajuppoor9612 sure thing!
beautifully explained thanks lv from india thanks
Thank you for your kind words, I'm very glad you found this helpful!
What vocal settings do you recommend to achieve a movie trailer effect voice like Don LaFontaine?
Genetics.
haha, but in all seriousness, that is a topic more on the characteristics of the human voice. What Don does is unique to him and how he controls the tone and resonance of his voice. The engineers who mix him would do very similar processing to most voice overs. In short with that mixing, is very similar to how I mixed my voice in this except they might allow for a little more low end in the EQ. In terms of recording, just close proximity to a nice microphone with proper microphone technique (use of a pop-filter, etc.)
Man it's time to come back online
I love this comment so much. I have plans and more is on the list for sure!
I’m thinking an updated version of this video and my sermon/live broadcast along with a few new ideas. I appreciate your patience!
@@RyanMonette and I have reasons for that. I'm working on a post in Ukraine, but we're in our immigration process to Canada, and your videos just show me something I have to apply there. I'd like to DM
@@4efam Go for it! You can always hit me up via the contact page on my website.
@@RyanMonette Hello Ryan. Write to you on Instagram
@@4efam I’m not active on Instagram for the foreseeable future. If you have any inquiries, please contact me via my website, www.RyanMonette.com
Hey man,
Thank you so much for this!
This is an awesome video.
Just one question... can this process be done on logic pro? We currently are using Logic Pro X
It most definitely can be done in Logic the exact same way. Just as long as you have similar plugins (any EQ, compressor, multi-band compressor will work)
quick question about the limiter at the end : if we wanted the music and voice over to be at the levels tat WLM plus preset suggested, then why make them louder at the end? doesn't do this mess with the standards? tnx again
Love that you asked that! The main reason I'm using the loudness meter in the context of this mix is mainly for reference that everything (VO and music) is perceived the same in regards to loudness. So basically the loudness meter is used only for reference, and not to meet a specific specification for final delivery. It's just a helpful visual representation to ensure everything is balanced for how the listener will perceive loudness. However when I mix TV episodes or commercials, then I absolutely export according to the loudness meter with no further gain staging.
@@RyanMonette Aha , Got it . Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me. Great channel.
Best of luck
@@Citizen-Shayn You're more than welcome! I'm happy to help!
A small caviot: as a dialogue editor we tend to spot apply mouth declick. If you blast it over the whole thing you lose many important consonants like T and K and even overtones from low voices. Edit: also, denoising should be applied BEFORE compression. Edit 2: generally when we mix music we turn it down all the way, then bring it UP until it masks the voiceover, then bring it back.
You are so very correct! A blanket of de-crackle/de-click absolutely can/will dull the tonal qualities of dialogue. 5 years later, I've for sure grown and refined my workflow with thanks to much much more professional experience. There's actually a lot that has changed in my personal workflow and is pretty much completely different now than the process in this video. Much of which is what you have pointed out. Much more rendering involved, less plugins, different signal flow, etc.
I appreciate your valuable feedback! They are great tips that I hope anyone who comes to view this video sees and adopts.
One of these days I'll get around to making an updated version of this video that'll include these things :)
@@RyanMonette What a testiment to you as a person and as a professional to frame my comment as constructive advice for people watching this video rather than a retort or criticism. Im sure an updated version would benefit many people. Best from Berlin
@@GingerDrums :) I appreciate you! The intent of this and any videos I make has always been and will always be to help others. I'm just a hopefully helpful steward of knowledge and experience for others.
@@RyanMonette any beginner watching this is lightyears ahead compared to many "engineers" earning money with this stuff. I'd give my thumbs to your stewardship for what it's worth up as a fellow industry professional.
@@GingerDrums Your words and encouragement mean a lot! Thank you so much!
omg my brother you are a very good teacher and instructor I wish more people could teach like this much respect friends for life look me up on sound cloud, please give some advice. thank you
Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words! I'm so glad this was helpful for you!
Hey Ryan. Great content you got going here. Is it possible that you can share the PT session template you show here to test it with my podcast. I've got the same plugins you have. Thanks!
Thank you so much for the kind words. Feel free to connect with me on the contact page of my website!
What if there is a sfx track?
Anyway very helpful video. Thank u so much, Ryan. 👏👏
Hi! I'm so glad you found this video helpful! I do the same basic process with SFX as music. All SFX tracks go to a bus, and on that bus I have processing that is side-chained by the dialogue. Tweaking the settings appropriately for where the dialogue would sit in comparison with the SFX.
But I do not side-chain the music to be triggered from any SFX. If I want a particular SFX to stand out, I'll just automate that.
thank you so much for the information and i have a question, When we add SFX, is the same method is used for SFX or any other way or just reduce the gain?
You are most welcome! Yes, you most certainly can apply the same principles to a SFX bus, which is what I do with subtle differences in frequencies and various tweaks.
informtive
Glad you found it informative!
@@RyanMonette Really