The snare does not sound like that because this is a demo. That is the drum tone Patrick Wilson most likely wanted for this song. A lot of drummers dig that snare tone. It's tuned high and has no muting on it, and the wire is choked against the resonant head. He's hitting the drum quite hard, possibly using thicker sticks, making the snare wire almost nonexistent. Lars Ulrich did something similar on St. Anger, however his snare was tuned poorly, creating a sort of trash bin-like sound with lots of overtones (I don't know if that was on purpose or not). Producers change music pieces to appeal to a wider demographic, which is most liikely why the drum tone was changed. The album features a lower tuned snare with the wire a bit more loose, along with some muting to give it that punchy, pop drum sound.
The most interesting thing to me is how different Rivers' voice sounds. You can tell it's him especially in the quieter parts, but he almost has a metal or grunge (Chris Cornell) sound for most of it. It's interesting that he went with more of a "slacker" style (for lack of a better word) on their official releases. Just goes to show how versatile and talented he is as a singer.
Agreed, I think Pat's a pretty underrated drummer. He might not have much in the way of flashy chops, but what he plays fits the song and he is a GREAT power rocker! I always loved the power he could get out of a kit. Cool to hear how his old kit sounded
I just discovered this. Pretty cool, interesting. I think this version demonstrates what rivers has said in interviews that I have read that he is actually much more of a guitar player and soloist than what he shows on the first few albums. I am only familiar with the first 3 albums. He certainly shows his rock guitar skills much more on this version and his singing is a bit different. I think for whatever reason they decided to go with a cleaner and more simpler sound for the album. Guitar solos that are more melodic as opposed to bluesy rock licks, and cleaner vocal delivery with no yelling / screaming vocal break up. This version is cool to hear for the contrast.
Should check out their 4th album maladroit, it’s very raw sounding production wise like Pinkerton and definitely shows off his guitar playing more than the first three.
The producers who took this and turned it into the album version did an amazing job cleaning it all up. From the vocals to the guitar, they turned the distortion down on nearly all of it, and it worked perfectly. When this was out, to me, they were closer to the beach Boys, but a modern version. This sounds more like the other bands of the 90's, which is understandable, but the changes made Weezer stand out far more, gave them a more solid identity.
Holy shit. . . Anyone know why they took a lot of the more impressive and cool stuff out? I LOVED the "Heartbreaker, Lifetaker" at the end. Gave me chills. Why'd they cut that from the official releases?
I see what you mean, I love a lot of the little touches, but I do kind of like the beginning on the official release more, I think it makes for a perfect balance between the chill vibes of the first verse and the more aggressive tone towards the end, which is one of my personal favorite aspects of the song. When I first heard it I was lead in with the unique, laid back sound and then politely smacked across the face with the chorus
Each time I hear this song, I love how subtly it grows and builds, after the solo its one gigantic eargasm part. I love both versions, but the demo renders me a more pleasant feel.
L0Kii Blue's baselines were all excellent because they were all written by Matt. Pretty sure most of Pinkerton's weren't. They are not as good because Rivers took control of the band and he wrote Pinkerton on his own without allowing the input of the rest of the band, which in my opinion, made Pinkerton's baselines and the composition in general not as good as Blue's.
I like the final version of this song just as much as i like this one. But you and i both know that the guitar solo on this version requires a lot more skill to play
how much more skill? both are technically proficient at the same time lyrical. IMO i think blue album version is more timeless. More of a challenge to right a catchy solo, thats memorable, I.E. Brian May on Bohemian Rhapsody, versus Ygnwie Malmsteem "insert any song" still love Ygnwie dont get me wrong, but Van Halen is Van Halen cuz of the great songwriting, everything else is just sweet gravy
I love River's vocals in this. So much more heartfelt and sincere than in the album version. The vocals fit it so much more: it's a song about frustration and sorrow, so why shouldn't the vocals be a little rough and abrasive? That just makes them much more genuine.
Oh snap Oh snap Somebody’s demo Is crowding my disk case Somebody’s bad one Is making me ill Oh snap Oh snap It feels bad Inside [Chorus] Play that demo This disk is a heart breaker Play that demo This game is a life taker [Verse 2] I can’t continue Google Disney Princess sexy flash game pregnant Elsa rule 34 We’ll just blur [Chorus] Play that demo This disk is a heart breaker Play that demo This Bruce is a disk breaker [Bridge] Dear gabor I call you In spite of years of bad games You made seed It’s terrible Then you never released it [Outro] Play that demo This Bruce is a disk breaker
the song is so busy lmao so many things goin on, glad they toned it down a bit. there are bits though that i preferred here that i wish remained in the official release
Man it's always awesome to here the artist interpret their own song in different ways. Both versions sound great to me, though the one that was released on the album definitely has a more serious tone 😂 man I'm so happy this popped up in my recommend.
i love this version so much more than the album version, literally from start to finish everything is better, rivers tone for the clean parts, the short licks he adds throughout the song(especially after first chorus), matt's harmonies are better, the snare sounds good, the guitar at the second chorus is better, the solo is MUCH more interesting and shows off his skill more, the variations he adds to the guitar part in the outro makes it feel so much more complete, and my favorite part is the chords being played at the bridge, idk why they took that out because i think it would fit in the album version just as well
this sounds more grunge-ish with rivers vocals. its a bit more busy than the album version, but i honestly dig it. im so glad they decided to add in the loud, whiny, guitar solo at 3:05. it's weird to not hear it in the demo.
I like the way the bass and the guitar sound. The drums sound like they were recorded in a trash can. It's all snare and there's sooo much reverb on it.
almost had a more obvious reggae/ police type feel but filtered through 90s guitars pretty interesting, never heard this demo despite regularly listening to weezer/rivers demos
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I like how the word "DEMO" is just written in MS Paint with the spray paint tool.
emphasis on the O
aesthetic
@@therevenge192 What does that have to do with anything?
@@cabbage385 to be honest I’m not sure I’ll just delete it
And good thing too, because if it wasn't there I would've thought it was the studio version
"...Something is bubbelle he HE HA HA HE HA HA..."
1:00
XD
He's an angel
“The bottle is ready to blow AAAAAHHHH”
XD
The guitar in this is so 90s and indulgent. They scaled it back and didn't make a 90s album, they made a timeless one.
Nice comment! ✊
Let’s not forget to give major props and gratefulness to Ric Ocasek on producing the album and their sound.
More like Kiss
u smell bad haha
woahh i'm a 2000s kid but this comment is actually true and accurate. this version is more overtly 90s while the studio one is timeless like u said
Matt’s screech before the first chorus is the best thing ever
"OoohhaaAAAAAHHH-"
i disagree.
i disagree with your disagreement
I completely agree.
i love how raw it is, yes the snare sounds rough because it's a demo. the demo is only supposed to be a sample of how the song should be structured.
I remember there being like one before this. It’s way different
@@quobeefius77 look for the kitchen tapes
@@quobeefius77 the kitchen tapes i think
The snare does not sound like that because this is a demo. That is the drum tone Patrick Wilson most likely wanted for this song. A lot of drummers dig that snare tone. It's tuned high and has no muting on it, and the wire is choked against the resonant head. He's hitting the drum quite hard, possibly using thicker sticks, making the snare wire almost nonexistent. Lars Ulrich did something similar on St. Anger, however his snare was tuned poorly, creating a sort of trash bin-like sound with lots of overtones (I don't know if that was on purpose or not). Producers change music pieces to appeal to a wider demographic, which is most liikely why the drum tone was changed. The album features a lower tuned snare with the wire a bit more loose, along with some muting to give it that punchy, pop drum sound.
The most interesting thing to me is how different Rivers' voice sounds. You can tell it's him especially in the quieter parts, but he almost has a metal or grunge (Chris Cornell) sound for most of it. It's interesting that he went with more of a "slacker" style (for lack of a better word) on their official releases. Just goes to show how versatile and talented he is as a singer.
I've heard that he was in a heavy metal band before Weezer :)
Could be the gear and recording equipment... Cheap mic used in the demo vs a 5k Nuemann and effects in a pro studio.
I mad that Matt's little scream didn't get in on the final version.
I'm glad that Flea and Chad Smith from RHCP didn't end up playing bass and drums on the album version.
hahahahaha
Is that a joke about Alanis Morissette?
Weezer and RHCP. Two bands with way more songs about California than any band should have.
We dwell in a fiefdom its because pats snare sound like chad smiths, and matt’s bass is really loud in the version
@@ToxPhy Guess you haven't listened to much Beach Boys
Agreed, I think Pat's a pretty underrated drummer. He might not have much in the way of flashy chops, but what he plays fits the song and he is a GREAT power rocker! I always loved the power he could get out of a kit. Cool to hear how his old kit sounded
I wonder how ianA is doing now
He sounds like Chad Smith here.
He caught a frisbee while playing in St Augustine. He’s got chops and style.
This version sounds like it would fit right in on pinkerton
Oddpufferfish 100 percent agree.
Yeah the quirky backing vocals
"You can't hate yourself and like Weezer. Well, except for pinkerton. You can hate yourself and like pinkerton."
there's more to pinkerton than "lol lo-fi"
Games Deen weezerthony suckstano
ah yes my favorite members
datrick wilson
eivers cuomo
matt sharp
& orian bell
Don't worry man, I'm still here. Funny joke
I just discovered this. Pretty cool, interesting. I think this version demonstrates what rivers has said in interviews that I have read that he is actually much more of a guitar player and soloist than what he shows on the first few albums. I am only familiar with the first 3 albums. He certainly shows his rock guitar skills much more on this version and his singing is a bit different. I think for whatever reason they decided to go with a cleaner and more simpler sound for the album. Guitar solos that are more melodic as opposed to bluesy rock licks, and cleaner vocal delivery with no yelling / screaming vocal break up. This version is cool to hear for the contrast.
Should check out their 4th album maladroit, it’s very raw sounding production wise like Pinkerton and definitely shows off his guitar playing more than the first three.
This one sounds like a mix of Jimi Hendrix and Smashing Pumpkins.
RBK2 Insomniac!!
Stratocaster Blitz
Dookie!!!
RBK2 all albums are amazing
greendaydemotapes
Meh, Warning and 21st Century Breakdown are alright by Green Day. Still kick ass, but otherwise it's just okay to me.
sub for sub?
Kurts voice is awesome in its own right!
Taylor Perkins What the fuck did you just say?
I honestly don't know, that was a while ago. It was definitely a response to a comment, and it must have been deleted or something
Taylor Perkins you were probably making a joke that rivers sounds like Kurt cobain
Rivers = Kurt
Thanks :)
the solo is very very sexy
Limoxide I think it's better then the actual released on 😂😂
Reckless_Hero22 the later one is way catchier
Imagine if he had that raw sounding voice throughout an entire album
Go listen to Pinkerton for the rawness lol.
Perfect example of ' less is more ' right here
Perfect example of that being wrong. Less isn't more, more is more. Come on now.
@@joshabatecola1719 Hell nah, the final version definately improves by being more simple.
@@__VQ__ not at all
@@joshabatecola1719 shut up bitch haha
@@joshabatecola1719 this is objectively no where close to the final version
imagine dropping acid and listening to this version.
I love the part just before the solo, the "dear daddy I write you" part..god it's so awesome..wish that part on the album version sounded like that
this version is hilarious. it starts off like a 90's sitcom or some shit with that lead.
The producers who took this and turned it into the album version did an amazing job cleaning it all up. From the vocals to the guitar, they turned the distortion down on nearly all of it, and it worked perfectly.
When this was out, to me, they were closer to the beach Boys, but a modern version. This sounds more like the other bands of the 90's, which is understandable, but the changes made Weezer stand out far more, gave them a more solid identity.
The producers? It was a stylistic change of Weezer, this was a demo! The producer was Ric Ocasek of the Cars.
It was re-recorded for the album
They didn't take this EXACT recording and magically turn it into the studio version you hear now... They re-recorded it and then re-mixed
Holy shit. . . Anyone know why they took a lot of the more impressive and cool stuff out? I LOVED the "Heartbreaker, Lifetaker" at the end. Gave me chills. Why'd they cut that from the official releases?
Dylan Deathbane because you touch yourself at night Dylan
oh shit I should've stopped damn
Make it more radio friendly i guess
I see what you mean, I love a lot of the little touches, but I do kind of like the beginning on the official release more, I think it makes for a perfect balance between the chill vibes of the first verse and the more aggressive tone towards the end, which is one of my personal favorite aspects of the song. When I first heard it I was lead in with the unique, laid back sound and then politely smacked across the face with the chorus
For me personally it takes away from the effect of the line.
wrestle with JIMMY
I love how matt looks so done with life on the cover
1:10 My favorite moment on this song
Each time I hear this song, I love how subtly it grows and builds, after the solo its one gigantic eargasm part. I love both versions, but the demo renders me a more pleasant feel.
That bass through
Just jacked up more than the original. It's the same.
+theminingprojectify i know its the 3 extra notes that make it. I learned this way and used this to learn the original bass too
No wonder Matt left when his awesome bass work was cut back for the album versions of most of blue. I'd be pretty pissed as well
L0Kii Blue's baselines were all excellent because they were all written by Matt. Pretty sure most of Pinkerton's weren't. They are not as good because Rivers took control of the band and he wrote Pinkerton on his own without allowing the input of the rest of the band, which in my opinion, made Pinkerton's baselines and the composition in general not as good as Blue's.
@@mellowmike4183 the basslines in pinkerton are way better than in blue in my opinion. Have you had a proper listen to them?
This demo has so many little frills, I love it
I like the final version of this song just as much as i like this one. But you and i both know that the guitar solo on this version requires a lot more skill to play
how much more skill? both are technically proficient at the same time lyrical. IMO i think blue album version is more timeless. More of a challenge to right a catchy solo, thats memorable, I.E. Brian May on Bohemian Rhapsody, versus Ygnwie Malmsteem "insert any song" still love Ygnwie dont get me wrong, but Van Halen is Van Halen cuz of the great songwriting, everything else is just sweet gravy
Oh for sure, I actually had to go back through this song and listen slowly to write out a tab, and my god is there a lot more notes.
the solo here is defintely harder, but imo the album solo is much more catchy
I love River's vocals in this.
So much more heartfelt and sincere than in the album version. The vocals fit it so much more: it's a song about frustration and sorrow, so why shouldn't the vocals be a little rough and abrasive? That just makes them much more genuine.
filthy frank on the lead
The snare really doesn't fit at all
yeah i agree
Kalon Cooper cannot be unheard...
I like it haha
It’s the st anger snare.
It sounds like if St Anger snare went Reggae
I definitely like the official one better. This one sounds to busy. Even the part where it’s so supposed to be calm still sounds super heavy.
Maybe that’s the point, I thought it was kind of cool like his mind is all noisy and stressed out
The bass part doesn’t sound like Flea
@@ItsHakki thats why he said "I"
Oh snap
Oh snap
Somebody’s demo
Is crowding my disk case
Somebody’s bad one
Is making me ill
Oh snap
Oh snap
It feels bad
Inside
[Chorus]
Play that demo
This disk is a heart breaker
Play that demo
This game is a life taker
[Verse 2]
I can’t continue
Google Disney Princess sexy flash game pregnant Elsa rule 34
We’ll just blur
[Chorus]
Play that demo
This disk is a heart breaker
Play that demo
This Bruce is a disk breaker
[Bridge]
Dear gabor
I call you
In spite of years of bad games
You made seed
It’s terrible
Then you never released it
[Outro]
Play that demo
This Bruce is a disk breaker
I fuckin miss Bruce, man
I cringed TOO hard at this lol
What happened to Adam lmao
That St Anger snare though
i love how bluesy the guitar is in this song
r u still alive? lmao im only asking this cuz I can see how old everything is on ur acc and also this comment
Has a Sublime sound to it
because of the off beat guitar chops that sound very reagge-ish
It sounds very raw, like a lot of Sublime.
The drum sound like bud gaugh's banging hollow snare.
holy shit these sounds like RHCP drums
Eargasmic lick at 0:45
Wish it was in the final version
the song is so busy lmao so many things goin on, glad they toned it down a bit. there are bits though that i preferred here that i wish remained in the official release
The cover for this looks like it was edited in Microsoft Paint
Boyd-Cheese it probably was, it’s just the kitchen tapes (demos) of the songs put on TH-cam
@@chesthaze5315 this not from the kitchen tapes, this is from their third demo "the real demo".
The original art was made in ms paint 😂
the chorus could pass as something nirvana would have done
How do they get the guitar to sound so wavy in the chorus? Sounds awesome
I believe its a harmonic thats being moved quickly kinda like a tremolo effect.
Just bending the string super hard and fast
Look up the tabs
Probably a tremolo pedal
honestly its probably partly cuz it's on tape, which tends to have that sorta warble
The guitar work seems to shine a lot more in these demo's. I really wonder why they cut out the better solo's for most of the songs.
You mean Rivers?
+Letter42 Well played.
um... matts the bassist
Inbrains was
less is more
1:02 matt sharp thinks he is a chicken
God why can't I just have an album of this
look up the real demo
kitchen tape
I love this but I defo prefer the original. Guitar solo is rad though and the ending is amazing
God dammit the drums really kick some ass in this version
This version is so awesome. Very grooving.
Werid to hear Rivers in a generic Emo voice
So werid
i love the "wrestle with jimmy" part oh god i wish it sounded that rough in the final version
This version embodies more of the "essence" of this song.
i'm a rocker. i love this demo so much.
I like the guitar on this more
Whomever held Ric Ocasek's beer deserves a hug.
3:02 that solo is cursed
Love it tho
i like how whenever they say “say it ain’t so” they just sound like bowling for soup
Oh yes
I can hear Matt Sharp straight into my heart
JIMMY HENDRIX JAMMING WITH WEEZER :) ON WEED
HAHAHA
More like acid
i love the 1:10 mini scream thing. Whatever it was, it's dope.
Man it's always awesome to here the artist interpret their own song in different ways. Both versions sound great to me, though the one that was released on the album definitely has a more serious tone 😂 man I'm so happy this popped up in my recommend.
Holly Buddy that's nice
I'm happy to be a weezer fan
Fake weezer fan
i love this version so much more than the album version, literally from start to finish everything is better, rivers tone for the clean parts, the short licks he adds throughout the song(especially after first chorus), matt's harmonies are better, the snare sounds good, the guitar at the second chorus is better, the solo is MUCH more interesting and shows off his skill more, the variations he adds to the guitar part in the outro makes it feel so much more complete, and my favorite part is the chords being played at the bridge, idk why they took that out because i think it would fit in the album version just as well
shit up
i dont know why people think the snare sounds like donkeyshit, i think its cool
Ughhh that guitar solo I just wish theyd kept that!
Pure perfection! bass fills, snare... vocals, guitar solo... kicks serious ass!
Pat is just too good, he plays just enough for the band. The biggest talent any drummer could wish for...
this sounds more grunge-ish with rivers vocals. its a bit more busy than the album version, but i honestly dig it. im so glad they decided to add in the loud, whiny, guitar solo at 3:05. it's weird to not hear it in the demo.
The bottle is ready to blow OOAAAAH AAAAAAAAHHHHH
Great guitar solo..!!! He's underrated, definitely..
The way Matt says "My back" is perfect
I like the way the bass and the guitar sound. The drums sound like they were recorded in a trash can. It's all snare and there's sooo much reverb on it.
Awesome, thanks for uploading all of these! If you don't mind me asking, how/where did you get all of these demos?
why is this so much better
that bass is so satisfying!
I love all the extra guitar fills, and embellishments
The drum tone is just good and tight
Everything sounds improvised so I'm glad this isn't the offical release
I love this more than the album version!
Weezer is awesome. I believe we can all I agree on that.
I love how raw these demos are. They're like live versions recorded in the studio lol
How did this track morph from this into the beautiful, gutwrenching masterpiece that is the album version?
I actually like this version better. I like the extra guitar embellishments.
This doesn't sound like rivers singing.
I actually prefer this over the normal one
WEEZER ROCKS!!!
Amazing demo album art
almost had a more obvious reggae/ police type feel but filtered through 90s guitars pretty interesting, never heard this demo despite regularly listening to weezer/rivers demos
Who's gonna be the absolute chad that tabs this?
Love this version
That mini solo in the begining though goddamn that's a nice addition
Ok, for most of the demos i like them as much as the final one but i DEFINITELY find this one better.
who has tabs for this?
Drummer is trying to make a haunted house with all those ghost notes.
I wonder if the solo was rewritten by Rivers himself or by Ocasek or sth.... Cause the albumversion is uniquely perfect
the drums are way more dynamic here than in the original, nice
matts vocals are even better in this version
rivers cobain
i love this! they sound like their having so much fun. not to mention its a more complicated version than the album one
I still can’t decide if this is real or someone with a new take on the meme
Almost sounds like an audition for 311
It's the drums...