I always wondered when you would make a video on Genji... Specially after you did that video explaining how playing with a ninja mindset paid off when playing Genji
@@ravinratnasuriya9955 You'd be surprised by the amount of Genji mains who actually do their job as a flanker, and get flamed by salty support mains for doing so.
Still though, he could've done with a few other abilities to make him moreso based around stealth and survival. An invisibility ability like Sombra, medicine to heal himself (Which he desperately needs considering how terrible his durability is) and more weapons based on MODERN technology which would make way more sense. Or at least a bow instead of throwing stars. That's why I think Genji's early concept of also having a bow would have been perfect. Hanzo and Genji should've stayed as one character. THAT would make a perfect video game FPS ninja. Along with the abilities I mentioned before.
Honestly, i feel like, yes in game Genji is a terrible ninja, but in game Genji, isn't actual genji. Genji in the animations, in the stories, that's actual Genji. If you use that, then you have someone with stealth technology to make him blend in to the shadows, silence his movements, speed up his movements, allows him to climb on surfaces normally not possible to climb on, throw ninja stars with pin point precision for distraction more than combat utility, using the Kodachi as his main weapon, a weapon he's so skilled with he can deflect and destroy incoming projectiles, can vanish in to nothing even when no place to hide is in sight. And with Nin meaning endurance, I don't think there's anyone in the overwatch world with more endurance than Genji, he practically endured death brought upon by his own brother who he looked up on, endured a torment of not knowing what he is any longer, and channeled all of that in becoming better. I could go on, but I feel I made my point, again genji in game isn't Genji, and I feel if you took Genji from the lore, or treated him as a seperate entity as gameplay is made to fit the gameplay, not the lore, I feel like you'd end up with Genji being rated extremely high in likeness to a ninja, if not the highest rated so far. PS, love this show, keep it up :) .
@@TheNdoki I'd argue lore/ genji has better workarounds with his flaws. We see him use lighting and positioning to cover up his white paint job,we know he's significantly faster and more dexterous due to him dodging and parrying scatter shot,and his whole "shitty shurikens" appear to be HIGHLY advanced in comparison to guns(perhaps even the same type of metal that hanzo's arrows are made from). On top of this he seems to have the ability to control the weight of his body manually,as seen in his short.All around,story genji is a SIGNIFICANTLY better ninja than game genji.
"We see him use lighting and positioning to cover up his white paint job" Yes, which is all extra, unnecessary work. If I had a flashing neon green car I could hide it as well, but it would still be easier to hide if it was painted a different color. And on the same note, I'm sure if he really wanted to he could probably throw quarters at his enemies and hurt them as well, but again if he had a better weapon his skills would be used even better. Sure they may be highly advanced, but there's a reason why practically every other character in the game uses a gun of some sort, and the same reason why we don't have people throwing shuriken or using a bow and arrow in the army anymore. Guns are still better. If Genji was truly trying to be the best assassin he could be, he'd do everything he could to use his abilities to their fullest. Instead he's using inferior weapons and tactics. Just think of how much better he'd be if he were colored properly, and using a gun. P.S. You can talk up those shuriken all you want, but I saw the video. Doesn't matter how good they are if they're too slow to hit anything and have an incredibly short range.
the genji in game isn't genji because that is us we're controlling the game so really genji has no say in his life decisions we control him like a puppet it's just the argument on why chara is not evil if anything we're the evil ones causing frisk to kill everyone that they loved*probably* in the previous play so in every game the character doesn't make the bad choices *like in mass effect*...we are
6:07 if Skallgrim has taught me anything other than how to end someone rightly, is that don't draw your sword from your back like that, it's never gonna work.
@@jonruch1128 Shad used a modified scabbard just for that to work. And Skall didn't do it across the back, but form one side of the back, with the help of a dropping backpack.
T2266 Scabbards like that actually do indeed exist and Skall no matter in what position or whatever was still proved that you can have back scabbards in fact Shad even fully admitted that he’d rather have a back scabbard seeing how it would be more convenient
Genji may also weigh more than Roadhog, being a full body cyborg in armor. Which should be -1 point for Genji being outside the Body Mass Index for a ninja.
Could you do a "Which Ninja" episode on Ninjago? I know the show is mostly made for kids but its probably the most mainstream Ninja show in the west after the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I can already tell that the Ninjago Ninja are not the most accurate but an in-depth analysis to see how accurate they are would be cool. Plus, at least one of those Ninjago Ninja dresses in blue. ;-)
Well there is the episode where Zane's outfit comes out as pink and he uses that to his advantage to hide himself. Also most of the weapons are accurate, minus Cole's
the shuriken thing makes sence, yeah ... but you forgot the fact that austin already covered genji in his *the science* series and esthablished the fact that genji throws these things at inhuman levels at a point where they can cut through *steel* sure he could've miscalculated a *little* bit, but it would still be deadly af
@@TheRezro Well Genji are the parts they rejected from Hanzo to make him a balanced range character, I think giving Genji points for his alpha build is rewarding him for not being the ninja he could of been, points for the ninja he FAILED TO BECOME!!! Instead of penalising him for the ninja he is. Also no mention of his Body Mass Index, hes a tall full metal cyborg and he is running around sandstone ancient buildings, mudbrick walls and ceramic roof tiles... he has to weigh easily as much than Roadhog or Winston, and less than DVA's mech or Bastion. And how does he Parkour with a 1 metre blade loosly attached to his back?
@@boxhead6177 Toony one did judge him as ninja he is not. Real one just state his opinion and the fact that he is bad ninja by design, when he could be a good ninja otherwise.
Maybe someday when you can Equip different weapons to the Heroes OverWatch like TF2, we can maybe try that Old Gameplay Concept of Genji with his Sword (-:
A sound idea but that would open up a problem with competitive balance; TF2 has had years to work it out. I'd be fascinated how Blizzard would incorporate this
Metalisalearning77 they could make it so you have to recover the weapons during the match making it so you have to collect them before you can use them, maybe include an armory for each team near the center of the map which are only accessible to the team they belong to. What they could do is set up each Hero with either 2 or 3 weapons to choose from each of which is suited to a different play style and the abilities the Hero has change with the weapon they are using, such as when Genji has the sword his shuriken when thrown at a wall or floor imitate his voice upon impact drawing attention to where it was throw to letting him then come up from behind to strike.
I think he should Parkour with the Genji Blade on his back! Try climbing a wall with a metre long blade on your back, or balance with an assymetrical weight on your back.
Wish early Genji was the one we got, I'd love to play like that. Being able to ambush opponents and have a strong melee weapon is exactly what I needed
Cut Genji some slack, lore-wise he's supposed to be a terrible ninja, when he was young he literally dyed his hair green and skipped ninja training to go play arcade games, so how is he supposed to be a good ninja?
Yes, it is why he give him six points.. he is terrible as ninja, but it is the point of this character. He originally was meant to be a Ninja, but after research creators noticed that popular myth and what ninjas were, aren't exactly the same. It is why real ninja stuff was turn into Hanzo and some other characters, when Genji was turn into a joke.
@@TheHeavyshadow Yes, that what toony one said. But at the same time he is someone who chose to be terrible anime ninja, but he still have proper shinobi training.
maybe we could do that for a april fools episode, analyze his playstyle and see how stealthy he is or how he compares to what the game gives him and other players
Video is amazing your videos inspire me to go the extra mile when it comes to Japanese culture and mythology I'm now looking more into samurai yoki and Shinto and I'm even doing kendo and learning Japanese fun fact the odatchi / nodatchi was used for executions due to its crushing power after it was found to be hard to use in battle
Owen Gwyn I definitely second all your sentiments, and I also tried kendo out for a while. But what I wanted to say was that the odatchi fills a similar role to the European claymore. Though, there was a different sword used for executions. It was called an executioners’ sword (does what it says on box). It was an exceptionally heavy sword, the closes widely known counterpart would be Cloud’s buster sword from Final Fantasy. It’s a fascinating sword simply for the fact that it was never meant to be used in combat. It is much to large and heavy to fight with, and is only used on unarmed targets who aren’t resisting.
Genji's primary fire (his shuriken) are literally the ability that does the least amount of damage in his entire toolkit, with one shuriken doing 28 damage. Only after quick succession and all headshots do the numbers really rack up, which is reminiscent of how shuriken would be required to hit the head, neck or chest to deal significant damage to an opponent. Other than his shurikens, literally every other one of his abilities is a blade, be it his deflect, his dash or his ultimate he always uses a blade, and all of them do more than the base damage of the shuriken, Heck even a quick melee attack does more damage, at 30 damage, and it yet again is a blade. Also, many Genji players utilise high ground to increase likelihood of headshots hitting, as well as being an example of Tanooki Gakure No Jutsu. See renowned players such as ShaDowBurn dominate with Genji. They aren't reliant on their team as much as other heroes are because of their survivability, in deflect deterring the enemy from shooting and swift strike in making a quick getaway.
Oooh, a hearted comment, that's a good sign. Though, to be honest, we've kind of not been Ninja for a while despite the tagline. So I'm not expecting a very high grade to be honest, short of the Tenno's tendency to hit-and-run on unsuspecting areas.
@@lozm4835 Frames were never ninja.They were labeled as similar to ninja,but many frames were designed for non stealth missions like rhino,inaros,and even mirage. The ninja tag line was solely attributed to excalibur,ash and loki.The rest...eh not so much.
@@bearandthebull2372 I see where your wrong way of thinking about ninja comes from, i mean come on media games tv and all that,however,warframe is the perfect representation of ninja's each and every frame is more ore less a good ninja because ninja as far as i know they where meant to complete certain objectives,ranging from protection,to information stealing,to even guerilla warfare.And you have different warframes for different situations,wile in all missions stealth is heavily rewarded trough experience and bonus dmg,there are missions where you just cant go stealthy and there you get your surviving warframes.Ninjas adapted to their situations and used tools propelry and as you know you have a variety of weapons and warframes to choose from to bestly aproach your missions. Cheers ^^
🅱️iMbO iS tHe BeSt NiNjA Edit - If you take the mind tricks (Nyx) the stealth (Ivara) the disarming (Loki) the survivability (Inaros) the independence (Harrow) the non-reflective blue (prisma) the arrangement of weapons the various stances and combine them you will have the very essence of a ninja
Woah woah woah. Cut Genji some slack here bud. I saw a few of your points that I think needs a bit of a counter argument, and this is coming from a guy who’s played since launch, started as a Genji main (no longer) and whose friend is now a diehard Genji main. Throwing Stars: Yeah, these are now really great as a primary, but what’s important is how Genji players use them. Genji players use a specific tactic in which they gain close quarters combat with an enemy then use their stars (burst) then their sword (quick melee). Would this not be loosely considered valid? A ninja using throwing stars then going in for a melee attack? Also, you stated yourself that throwing stars were only deadly if you hit an area like the head or throat. That is EXACTLY the Genji play style. In order for a Genji to be useful, they have to hit headshots consistently. Play style: You stated Roadhogs style of play is more akin to that of a ninja. Well the way that you described him (minus the hook) is how a Genji should play! They are a flanking hero, whereas road hog punishes poor positioning, Genji forces poor positioning, killing weaker, more valuable targets like healers or other flankers. Not to mention, he is incredibly mobile! I’m ashamed you didn’t mention his wall climb and double jump! While ninja likely didn’t have a double jump, I’m sure they had tools to scale walls to USE THE VERY PERCHING STYLE YOU PRAISED. In fact, many Genji players use this tactic, hiding in high altitude areas that they can reach due to their incredible mobility. Clothing: Okay, I get that Ninja wear blue. But why do they wear blue? Because they work during the night, specifically so that the night sky and forest would blend in it’s their coloration. But Genji isn’t a forest ninja. The majority of missions he goes on are DAYLIGHT MISSIONS IN URBAN AREAS IN THE FUTURE. Ninja would have to adapt to the new architecture. There are no tall tree to hide in, only large white and chrome buildings. Also, the skins are VERY canon. The younger skins of him are him when he was younger, and other heroes have been shown to wear the skins in game in CANONICAL COMICS. Case in point: Ana’s shrike skin. She wears it in the comics dealing with “current” story. While this is a lesser point, don’t doubt that Genji would know to wear blue/ navy. Also, he didn’t design the suit, mercy did, blame her if anyone. “I need healing”: Really... REALLY? You’re going to use a meme about poor Genji players as your main argument?! Well then, scout must have the same problems because of the 123 health scout meme. You see how idiotic that is? Allow me to explain the meme, this meme is used to characterize bad Genji players who don’t understand picking battles and utilizing environmental healing. Most Genjis can protect themselves just fine by using their reflect and confusing the enemy with double jumps. Overall, this just seemed to be an oversimplification of Genji. While i am neither “exposing” you nor calling you stupid, maybe you should have talked to Genji players too so that you could see the similarities in strategy. Thanks GG, love your content as always!
He wasn't saying Genji was bad ninja specifically because of the meme he was saying he was a bad ninja because he didn't have anyway to help or recover himself such as regenerating shields or some sort of self healing ability. Heck it doesn't even need to be a self healing ability he used Sombra as an example of something similar that could also work for a ninja. Scout isn't a ninja and his personality is someone who tries to get the first hit in and isn't exactly subtle about it. He was just using the meme as a joke/segway to his next point so I wouldn't consider it idiotic. What Gaijin said about ninja stars is that they are usually used for distraction not directly hurting someone. Now while what you say about Genji players is true it doesn't really invalidate Gaijins point because the stars are still Genjis main source of damage(the dash not only has cool down, but using it recklessly will get you killed while Genji's stars typically safer and still offer a consistent source of damage that can at least keep up with the primary fire of other heroes). The way you describe poor positioning makes it sound like genji PUNISHES poor position not creating it. He punishes Healers or squishes(and their teammates) for being unaware or in a bad position. While yes he is putting the opponent at a disadvantage he is not "creating" poor positioning he is punishing lack of awareness or already bad positioning. If you are gonna argue that this would intern force the team to change positions, well 1 their next position is not automatically be bad and may be in fact better then the previous positioning as they realize what just happened 2 by that logic roadhog also creates poor positioning by also killing healers, squishes and other players and forcing the team to adapt to what just happened even if he is punishing bad positioning he is forcing them into a worse "position". if anything roadhog would punish poor positioning by that logic. I kind of agree with your point about ninjas wearing blue you can't blame Gaijin for giving the criticism. Assuming we exclude things like maps because any hero can play on any map so they are for the most part noncanned. The only times we have really seen Genji in action is the Hanzo and Genji short an animation where he hides in the DARK before striking and a clip of the doomfist short during the day. Overall the hanzo short gives us way more information about how Genji operates and his fighting style than anything else we have seen. Now I could be wrong because to be honest I need to catch up on the comics. The rest of your points about things like mobility I agree with, but to me the reason you do not have more likes is your kind of missing gaijins actual points and focusing on stuff he didn't say or are not important. Also technically not ALL of Genjis young skins are cannon in the same way that not ALL of Genji's modern/normal skin colors and variations are cannon off the top of my head I'm pretty sure there are only three cannon Genji skins. The normal stock one, the blackwatch one and the young one with the green hair.
@Polarize ??? There are a number of top tier competitive players that main Genji at events dude. If you're doing ranked matches as Genji and you feel like he's terrible, it's because you're not using the strategies that are best suited to the character.
I feel like Genji could still be sneaky and just carry the odachi like you see them doing historically, since he would just have to hold it in his left hand, or they could've had the sort of open sheath style like Shadiversity did, or hell, MAGNETIZE IT TO HIS BACK IF YOU HAVE TO
I'm not sure if she's been in the running, but perhaps you could take a look at Blake Belladonna of RWBY. It may have been just me, but I noticed a few parallels between her and Ishikawa Goemon. Her weapon also strikes me as being rather fitting for a ninja as well.
Gamble Shroud , a submachine pistol that dobles as both a short sword and a Kama(is that how it's called?) with a lengthy ribbon attached to the handle
Kira Yoshikage for Which Ninja 1) He love's his bombs 2) Stands are invisible to non Stand users 3) Has mastered disguise to the point of hiding using someone else's identity 4) Gets rid of the bodies 5) Finds a way to weaponize anything he can, including panties and a ghost cat plant 6) Kills anyone who knows who he really is 7) Will either end the fight as quickly as possible or run away to survive 8) Made sure that the only person who knew his true identity literally *physically* could not tell anyone Anything else I missed?
1) Is capable of ignoring extreme pain for the sake of survival 2) Went out of his way to limit himself in any and all ways possibles to become average to the eyes of the world even in childhood 3) His disguise includes mastering the disguised's handwriting 4) Extremely analytical yet able to make convicing lies on the spot
Actually speaking of that - i know this wouldn't be up Gajin's ally or at least i think so but i would love to see an analysis on the Execution Squad from JoJo Part 5 aka assassin squad and which of the group are the most effective masters of stealth and assassination
Shadiversity did a video about practical back sheaths and their strengths/ weaknesses. That being said, the design of genji's back sheath isn't practical at all.
@Rowan Sharp I mean in shad's video he was able to do a cartwheel with it still staying on his back, but I completely agree. Obviously the back sheath is for more of a cool factor in genji's instance.
@@andresmarrero8666 I always wondered why scifi swords depicted in games didnt have like a magnetic sheath that was partly open. That way they could rip it from the sheath opening (more of a slit really) and it would make perfect sense.
@@Skylander404 No clue. It seems to be something that people forget, or they are too enthralled with the romantization of samurai. Though looking at most of them, they seem to be obsessed with space and Gundam shaped robots who wouldn't be able to properly work on a terrestrial environment. Enough of lasers, can we do another version of sci-fi that doesn't involve space, humaniod robots, or a dystopian or bland future?
To be fair, in the futuristic chrome-y world of Overwatch, silver and beige would be decently useful colors to camouflage with buildings, not to mention the fact that much of Hanamura Castle is also similar colors. But then again, I'm not the expert here
I feel it unfair on how you mentioned Roadhogs playstyle but not Genji's Genji often times hides either behind or above the enemy, often giving information to his teammates and then goes in to either disable (by making the enemy use cooldowns, which sombra does) by making them low on hp and panic If the genji is skilled enough he can often burst the enemy down with combos of his abilities It takes high skill (just like ninja) Even Shoddycast did the math and Genji's shuriken can do alot of real life damage (near bullet level) Genji's wall climb and double jump gives him some of the best mobility in the game and this lets him hide in places only he can (sometimes places even sombra can't get to) Survivability? Genji takes alot of skill and knowledge to pull off but he can also be very effective. His deflect and dash allows the player to escape bad situations and a like ninja good Genji's would know where all the health packs are and how to play around them or his healers I just wanted to get this off my chest cause you guys didn't give the boy a fair chance in going through everything about him (including the most important part, his playstyle) I'm not saying he's amazing but he deserves at least a 7/10 Oh and btw, alot of the alternate skinns are cannon. They even have Bois for some of them like young Genji or Sparrow (the nickname his father gave him)
As an avid player of Genji, to survive was the earliest strategy I adopted. Knowing the map, where the health packs are and the position of the enemy team, the high mobility made it easy to slip away from trouble and get patched up quickly. If anything, asking for healing is the last thing I do as Genji. And this was all thanks to the Genji guide you posted all these years ago. Thanks, GG.
Ok, I know real Ninja wear blue, but even so... that's because the night sky was blue in feudal era Japan... if Genji normally ran around in say the billboards and along the windows/walls of skyscrapers, that near concrete white/gray and the neon flipping green accent that could be turned on or off would make "some" amount of sense, cause he'd be able to turn off the lights to blend in to gray/white concrete of the urban landscape and he could use his neon to try and look like part of a light up billboard (and who's to say there isn't any other colors that even the basic skin "could" light up into, we only see one in game because game logic). Finally, for those who say that not all cities or parts of a city would even have anything that he could blend into... you're absolutely right. But if he's always in the one city in that outfit where it blends the best... that's all he needs it for (and who's to say the basic recolors actually are not canonical, because that "could" be his entire ensemble of outfits for the right job/location, right? Lets be honest here, disguises and camouflage is as much part of a Ninja's tool kit as the actual tools themselves).
Exactly what I was thinking! Take a look at the Doomfist animation and notice how Genji kinda camos with urban landscape. Put him in the skyline of Busan at night with his lights on and he's just another graphic right before you get a kodachi up your backside.
That's....actually a good point. Gaijin should consider it in future videos. But still.....Genji is every stereotype people think of a ninja. And some of Gaijin's arguments still stands like the sword length and preservation issue. Don't get me wrong, I like Genji, I think he's the coolest looking character in Overwatch, despite all criticisms.
@@turbohawk551 He has multiple means of preservation though, the double jump can make it hard to pin him down, his wall climbing gives him the ability to get better positioning and escape enemies, his reflect gives an opening to get to a better position or find cover while dealing damage, and his dash allows you get out of practically any dangerous situation instantaneously. Not to mention if you're spending the entire match scouring the map for healing packs, you're just a bad Genji player. His sword length is actually typical of a standard katana, definitely not a nodachi, the fact that he mistook it for one is actually kind of hilarious. The problem with Genji is that he wears it on his back. Drawing it from the hip gives you way more range with which to draw your weapon, from the back you're basically just relying on your arm's length, so you can never really draw a blade any longer than that.
Gameplay wise however his coloring makes him stand out like a sore thumb, he contrasts everything he stands near so it's easy to spot him when firing from almost any distance. Sombra, reaper, hanzo, even mei have a palette that helps them blend into their environment to do their job which genji's doesn't. So even if it makes sense in lore in practice it's awful.
Not all the skins are non canonical. Blackwatch, nomad and sparrow skins are all part the story. Also using MGR Raiden as an example (and no doubt the inspiration for his design) You can argue the sheath extends and retracts along the back as needed. As for the survival aspects, that comes down to player skill. I'm not even close to the pro genji players but I rarely need healing and I personally am a Bation main's worst nightmare. Also I bring up the fact lore wise that Genji is dead in the public eye, murdered by his brother. The identity of the cyborg ninja is not known to anyone except overwatch the people who gave him the cybernetic. Sombra might have a cloak ability but her identity is public, with a handle she goes by, her hideout has her fucking name on the front door and she's for hire. Same for Roadhog, him and Junkrat are wanted anarchists. I'm okay with criticizing the obvious flaws like his color scheme and primary weapon. But don't just ignore everything else just to drive home a point further than what it actually can go.
@@saucebou1069 That really changes nothing. So far that only really leaves his primary weapon and color scheme as the only issues. Which his body is customizable like all robots/cyborgs.
Sorry but I agree with the video. If you can't fix two of the _easiest things to change_ then you're terrible at your job. That's like saying a street racer who never puts oil in his car or clears the mud off his windshield is still a great street racer.
Because Sentai aren't ninjas.. but some ninjas were turn into Super Senati groups. In Japanese version most of them did have basic Shinobi training. Also there are sources what suggest that Shinobi could use puppetry to scare superstitious samurai invading they households. So even if mecha castles are overblown, there is some merit regard that.
*+Ghostwriter* No, the title of WORST ninja of all time has to go to the characters of _Ninjago_ - seriously, I don’t think I’ve seen a less stealthy group of people in all my life. Every villain of the show must be half-deaf with how much the Ninja get away with.
He probably threw the sheath away a long time ago because that sucker's like nine feet long let's be real, wielding the sword itself is unwieldy enough without having to hold onto another 9 foot length of material in your other hand.
the overwatch world is really bright. a lot of the maps have bright white/silver buildings and neon lights everywhere. it would make sense for genii to be wearing bright metals since that's what all the buildings look like. plus actual genji is nothing like the game. he's way more op with his swords but they limit their use for balance purposes
to be fair, if you look past the drawing of dragonblade being impossible he uses Oodachi pretty well, large slow damaging swings that two shot opponents, and even the way good genji's get past that with using animation cancels to make the swings extremely fast is quite ninja-like (i.e attacking as fast as possible)
I mean, the fact that he is a cyborg does mean he kinda failed at being a ninja at some point and got taken down. So, maybe not a very successful ninja.
@@wolfhurricane897 Raven straight up calls Yoshimitsu out for being a poor Ninja, and later tries to teach him the Kuji-in, and Yoshimitsu can't do it.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 Yoshimitsu gets better at it in Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and think about this. Aside from being in the Manji Clan. What do we really know 100 percent about Yoshimitsu?
wait.... maybe just maybe the blade extends only after it is drawn but in sheath is much smaller and the rest is just for looks. With his tech it would make sense and it accounts for the sword never being seen taken in or out at full length
Ok so three things one for durability he has deflect and dash for escape the reason why the "i need healing" joke came about was because some people dont know that when you get low you use swift strike to disengage and find a health pack or for your healer to find you, second you forgot to mention his passive, his passive you have wall climb and double jump both mobility abilities that allow either for escape, dodgeing your opponent, or simply going a route that other carecters can't, and finally as you mentioned genji has many cyborg enhancements which gives him a few things but you didn't mention the fact that maybe they enhance his strength? You know to make them fly faster and hit harder? All in all this was an amazing episode i was just wondering why you didn't tame these things into account
I feel as though some things here against genji are in a manner rather unjust. Of course the I need healing meme is well in the name a decent amount of a meme. In reality his suitability isn't as lacking as the video makes it appear, between being able to use dash, deflect, double jump and wall climb genji is actually a rather survivable hero in duels. Many would actually consider his movement to be better than sombras as it's less one and done single tp. Other things of note are that there is actually a number of canonical skins for genji, Bedouin, nomad ,sparrow, young genji, blackwatch and of course the default are all conically confirmed. Many of these infact would be extreamly good at hiding a ninja in they would be used. Some good well suited attire I would like to bring up is the nomad skin and the blackwatch skin. Outside of the red the colours of the blackwatch skin heavily suit the urban and military environments it would be used in meshing well with greys and whites of concrete and metal panneling that would be found in those locations. Next is Bedouin, at first the colour match well to the sandy pale arabic areas it would likely have been used in during genji's search for meaning post overwatch being disbanded. Another thing which is a solid point towards genji is how well his identity was actually concealed, to the point of outside of overwatch genji's own brother didn't even know of his existence. Aswell as his ever present concealing of his face and facial details e.g. contacts in the blackwatch skin to disguise his exposed eyes. As for playstyles they really can't be used to judge the character here, though in bringing up road hog you pointed out a ambush, hook and kill tactic which is definitely used commonly. But arguably more common are peel hogs that protect squisy's in the backline and frountline hogs that apply barrier damage (the direction blizzard has been taking the hero with balance patches). This also can apply to genji as you said where he can be played in a very, backline assassin taking out priority targets after infiltrating and observing things such as treats and useful tools. As for primary weapon being shurikens, this is in a way slightly untrue much of genji's kit is heavily based in his short sword (his entire play is based around dash resetting a move performed with the blade. Granted there is a lot of ranting here, but I though I would add a few things I found cool about genji in terms of ninja authenticity (mainly concepts s I learned though this show)
To be fair, in video games and other forms media, when a character has a long sword on his back, (most notably Ryu Hayabusa) the sword is never truely sheethed and unsheethed due to its long length so they take animated shortcuts
even if genji is white and gray that doesn't really matter if you factor the dragons short in to this. we saw him hide fairly well in the dark even with bright colors and he also has a near silent step when landing. despite being white and gray he was still able to get hanzo to lose track of him and lets not forget the dude straight up vanishes in a puff of smoke. genji also uses his blade to attack and defend more than the shuriken.
The sword thing reminded me, someone made a sword that is strapped to his back but has a slit on the side with a guide for him to sheathe and un sheathe it
Gaijin The Human: 6 Shuriken out of 10[What he COULD'VE been before his current design] The Goomba Ninja:1 Shuriken out of 10[I Need Healing; Too Bright Colored; Sword's Too Big; Shuriken ain't too effective, etc]
The dragon sword sheath DOES open up from the side, though the replica and animation doesn't show it (the blade just warps itself, because fine-detailed animation is hard... and expensive). Notice the sheath has a black, plastic or ceramic clasp near the top, with a tapered edge folding up and away from the center. The material means this design was molded and deliberate (as opposed to a leather wrap simply pulled taut), and the shape implies it was designed not to resist pressure from underneath and to slide out of the way (much like a door latch and locking plate are tapered in the direction the door is supposed to close). This gap is small enough not to catch on foliage or interfere with movement, but is large enough to catch the blade and, with a simple twist, flick open easily without looking at it. If it were meant as a simple holder, seal, or carrying clasp, the notch would fold DOWN to *resist* pressure from inside (like a bicycle lock or belt buckle), and be flush with the rest of it to avoid catching on anything. One might ask how the clasp itself doesn't interfere with or hook on the blade? Logically, the clasp must be flush. If it were magnetic, it would both hold the clasp closed and re-close it automatically when the sword is drawn or replaced (which also explains why we always see it closed; it would only be open a fraction of a second). This kind of technology currently exists in military and police equipment (usually for quickly holstering firearms or baton), as well as high-end camping equipment to automatically re-seal a screen door and block insects. Definitely something a high-tech cyborg would be familiar with. All of this is visible in the footage from this very video. Doesn't excuse the other silliness, of course, but... I think it's kind of a neat observation and thought exercise.
I get for the alternative skins like young genji and hanzo… but his color swaps? you'd think a cyborg ninja could change the parts of his suit to match his assignment right?
I think Genji deserves another look. Blizzard has come out starting that the portrayal in the game is only loosely cannon. In the manner that this game is a real videogame in universe. In the world of overwatch the game is how genji is displayed. But if you look at the comics and the animated short Dragons, you start to see a difference. First the look. Goombah here complained that he was shiny, reflective, and covered in neon lights. Putting aside that you see in the Dragons short that he can turn the lights on and off at will, where do you think he is sent on missions? Dense futuristic cities where his abilities keep him high up, near bright neon lights and metal surfaces. He blends in to the environment he works in. In game he uses shuriken as his primary weapon. But in the Dragons short he only used them once. And that was as a tool to clip the feathers off the majority of Hanzo's arrows. Every other attack he uses a sword. Ninjas like tech right *slaps genji* YOU CAN FIT SO MUCH TECH IN THIS BABY. You see in Dragons that when Genji lands it is utterly silent. So we got noise canceling tech. You see him dash at high speeds climb. And when he does use his dragon move he does it to gain the advantage in combat. In the short he mostly used it to prove his identity to Hanzo. So I'd love a Genji revisit with a closer look at the Comics and Animated short
One problem I have is the bit on shuriken. It would be relevant if they were thrown by a normal person, but genji throws these at comperable speeds to bullets meaning no matter what it is an effective primary weapon as well as being very quiet.
In my opinion you guys are being way to harsh on genji and are miss representing things. To start off, Genji fights with in melee distance most of the time, within the enemy's backline, using his wide throwing shuriken technique. He doesn't fight from a distance. Also Genji's shurikens, just like real life don't do that much damage unless you hit a head shot and even than it really isn't much.
I know this video was posted one year ago, but I’ve been thinking about it, you could’ve given Genji more points for his appearance because ninjas are supposed to blend in to their environment right? And genji’s environment is mostly futuristic city’s with a lot of white, brown and metallic grey, maybe with neon lights. If he were hiding behind a green neon light he could have his lights on in order to not cast a shadow making him nearly invisible! However in more rural places such as junkertown or Route 66 he does definitely stick out like a sore thumb. Anyways I really enjoy these videos, helping me learn more about real life Shinobi! Keep up with the great videos giving me some real good....Culture Shock
In regards to drawing a a sword from the back there are ways to do that practically. It’s a point of discussion among European martial arts in regards to longswords or bigger. Granted without knowing how long genji’s sword is it’s hard to say but it’s totally possible to draw a sword carried on your back using specific ways and specialised scabbards.
About this sword, I noticed something similar but in the opposite effect with Impa. Has anyone else played as Impa in Hyrule Warriors? She uses this gigantic, totally unrealistic and unfeasable blade, a Goron's Knife. A blade at le as t 6 feet long and easily a foot in width and an inch or 2 in thickness. This blade is entirely impossible for anyone to feasibly use in combat. But the hilt is way more realistic than most video game/anime character's blades. If you look closely, you can see the she doesn't draw the blade from hilt to base, nor does she return it as such. The hilt has a slit on the side about a foot up the length of it, essentially opening up to the blade. When she draws it she pulls it out about a foot then brings her arm down, tilting the blade at and angle and raising it up out of the hilt via that slit. When she returns the blade she does the same thing swinging the blade down sideways across the hilt then pushing it down that last foot of length. Combine that with the fact that while the blade is totally unusable in real life, she can string together attacks that swing the blade around at crazy speeds taking out multiple opponents. She's also super flexible and acrobatic, sometimes planting the blade in the ground and swinging around it, letting her attack everyone in the event she's surrounded. She can even swing that giant blade with her legs...somehow. She wears blue (and sometimes dark purple in other games) she has incredible stealth capabilities, recall that in Ocarina of Time she's the Sage of Shadow, she very knowledgeable and even taught Zelda everything she knows which is the only reason Zelda is even mildly successful as Sheik, who's already been established as a very good ninja.
11:20 Another aspect you didn't mention about Roadhog's ninja similarities is his gun. His primary fire can be compared to the Nigiri-Teppo, both being a close-range burst that does tons of damage to an opponent.
Nice but i propose the idea of finaly stoping the teass with warframe and actualy do it cus there is a hand full of ninjas so please do it also the melee and primary + secondary and tech it pyukes ninja all over so just do it
From the looks of it, Oberon can be Counted as a Ninja. He has High Survivability, can Manipulate the environment with his Hallowed Ground, strike Discord with his Radiation Proccing powers, and his passive connection to his Beast allows them both to Work in tandem.
I don't Genji's current design is actually his fault. During the events of the Venice Incident, Genji's armor was far darker in coloration and design, allowing him to better blend into dark urban/industrial environments while also being incredibly intimidating to look at. However, once the events went public, there was probably a big push from the Overwatch PR team to push characters like Genji and McCree into the limelight, as a way of saying "we aren't hiding anything". This could has lead to Genji being redesigned to look more 'family friendly', smoothing out his darker aspects while further covering up any identifiable features (eyes/tattoo), something that wasn't an issue before because, well, no witnesses.
I think you should have done a holiday special of Which Ninja by analyzing the most well-known holiday ninja: Santa. The guy leaves your presents and eats the milk and cookies you leave him without getting caught. Plus since he knows when you're sleeping and if you've been bad or good proves he has good intel gathering skills.
Have you ever thought about reviewing ninja movies like Ninja Assassin or Revenge of the Ninja? I would also be happy if you talk about Snake Eyes from G.I Joe too.
Merry post Christmas goomba. Praying that we can have a Blazblue video in 2019 since there’s a bunch to talk about: The Amaterasu, Susanoo and tsukiyomu units as well as takamakahara A which ninja on bang shishigami (alright ninja techniques wise but way too loud and identifiable) The Nox nyctores The black beast (most likely a reference to orochi) And there’s probably more that I don’t remember. Hope we get an episode sometime
Going by the video, wouldn’t Soldier 76 be an excellent ninja? Think about it: masked face and identity, self sufficiency with his biotic field, and a state of the art weapon w/ his pulse rifle
In defense of his aesthetic, doesn’t genji normally run around in more brightly lit places? Let’s say he was dressed in all dark blue on, say, the hollywood map? He would stick out like a sore thumb. I know that map still isn’t ideal for his look, but it highlights the idea which has been made clear on this channel many a time that ninja had to change their looks based on where they were traversing.
I think we are overlooking a lot of the context involved in Genji as "ninja". A shinobi would not just wear blue, they would wear whatever color best let's them blend into their environment. And surprise surprise, the futuristic design of various overwatch locales just so happen to resemble iPhone stores. His white and chrome color scheme fits that to a T.
Genji and moombah I kind of disagree on the blade being too long I will concede however that under normal circumstances you’ll be right but on a theoretical level it would be possible for Genji to draw his blade in the world that he’s in the way I view it is his sheath mechanically opens up to allow him to draw his blade it just looks like it wouldn’t i’m thinking the most practical spot for that to happen would be on the side that’s facing up of the hilt this would make it easy for slicing animation for pulling out the blade on I can understand if you disagree with me I remember overwatch has elements of sci-fi as well as cultural inspirations so yeah and a lot of areas They’ll be some problems and games have been known to gloss over a heck of a lot of details but as one person who over analyzes things to another look at the picture as a whole and then come to a probability in real life where they start to blur that you find true beauty PS yes what I’m saying sounds like a stretch Just remember not all ninjas just hide in the shadow And that can go double for the weapons
I said the worst ninja in gaming is Yuffie from Final Fantasy 7 1. She reveals her face and never wear a color that's stealthy ( I know in the FF7 movie/KH2 she wears a black tank top and shorts but they have white on them which sticks out) 2. Introduce herself to her enemies or opponents. 3. She reveal her NINJA VILLAGE to outsiders it doesn't matter if they are her friends/allies that's extremely dangerous for the village. 4. She uses a GIANT Shuriken star as one of her primary weapons, which Goombah have said in multiple videos shurikens weren't used as weapons in that way.
would love to see a blend of current and og genji in overwatch 2, given i believe a time skip occurs between the 2 games, to make a more authentic ninja
"He has no survival kit." Given how him after Hanzo were raised in a very privileged lifestyle that's a no brainer. Their ninja training, from the looks of it, focused more on combat than anything else. They also live in a world where needs are more readily accessable than back when ninjas came into existence. That's not in defense of either one, it's just an observation of the difference of time and what they have to do to just live.
I love you Gaijin, but you took the cyborg out of the equation when it came to the shuriken. Genji throws them with a force mere humans never could, and they fly across the range almost faster than McCree's bullets. If a shuriken could be thrown with that much force, it wouldn't matter that the weapon was never designed to deliver a lot of force, it's a small, shrapnel shaped piece of metal. It's going to lodge itself deeply into it's target. If Genji threw one at your stomach, he'd shred your intestines with just one, let alone the three he typically blasts at ya. But... I also really loved learning about his other weapons. You should do a 101 series on weapons so you don't have to explain weapons in these Which Ninja videos over and over again.
"today we rip that Xbox mother$&#@ a new USB slot"
Oh God XD
That's a quote that's reusable day after day
I always wondered when you would make a video on Genji... Specially after you did that video explaining how playing with a ninja mindset paid off when playing Genji
Quote of the Year
NinjaGoomba vs Genji for Ninja supremacy. I'd watch it.
Goomba throwing some salt into Genji's face!
The 2 young Genji Skins and the Black watch are Canon.
Give Genji a little more credit, his playstyle usually involves hiding, and pouncing on high value targets. That's basically what a ninja does.
@@ravinratnasuriya9955
You'd be surprised by the amount of Genji mains who actually do their job as a flanker, and get flamed by salty support mains for doing so.
meh
Still though, he could've done with a few other abilities to make him moreso based around stealth and survival. An invisibility ability like Sombra, medicine to heal himself (Which he desperately needs considering how terrible his durability is) and more weapons based on MODERN technology which would make way more sense. Or at least a bow instead of throwing stars. That's why I think Genji's early concept of also having a bow would have been perfect. Hanzo and Genji should've stayed as one character. THAT would make a perfect video game FPS ninja. Along with the abilities I mentioned before.
@@kin4386 I agree with this guy
Roadhog can do this almost as good and he can do even more things like a ninja.....
Honestly, i feel like, yes in game Genji is a terrible ninja, but in game Genji, isn't actual genji. Genji in the animations, in the stories, that's actual Genji. If you use that, then you have someone with stealth technology to make him blend in to the shadows, silence his movements, speed up his movements, allows him to climb on surfaces normally not possible to climb on, throw ninja stars with pin point precision for distraction more than combat utility, using the Kodachi as his main weapon, a weapon he's so skilled with he can deflect and destroy incoming projectiles, can vanish in to nothing even when no place to hide is in sight. And with Nin meaning endurance, I don't think there's anyone in the overwatch world with more endurance than Genji, he practically endured death brought upon by his own brother who he looked up on, endured a torment of not knowing what he is any longer, and channeled all of that in becoming better.
I could go on, but I feel I made my point, again genji in game isn't Genji, and I feel if you took Genji from the lore, or treated him as a seperate entity as gameplay is made to fit the gameplay, not the lore, I feel like you'd end up with Genji being rated extremely high in likeness to a ninja, if not the highest rated so far.
PS, love this show, keep it up :) .
But the Genji outside the game still has all the flaws, and they're the easiest ones to fix.
@@TheNdoki I'd argue lore/ genji has better workarounds with his flaws.
We see him use lighting and positioning to cover up his white paint job,we know he's significantly faster and more dexterous due to him dodging and parrying scatter shot,and his whole "shitty shurikens" appear to be HIGHLY advanced in comparison to guns(perhaps even the same type of metal that hanzo's arrows are made from).
On top of this he seems to have the ability to control the weight of his body manually,as seen in his short.All around,story genji is a SIGNIFICANTLY better ninja than game genji.
"We see him use lighting and positioning to cover up his white paint job"
Yes, which is all extra, unnecessary work. If I had a flashing neon green car I could hide it as well, but it would still be easier to hide if it was painted a different color.
And on the same note, I'm sure if he really wanted to he could probably throw quarters at his enemies and hurt them as well, but again if he had a better weapon his skills would be used even better. Sure they may be highly advanced, but there's a reason why practically every other character in the game uses a gun of some sort, and the same reason why we don't have people throwing shuriken or using a bow and arrow in the army anymore. Guns are still better.
If Genji was truly trying to be the best assassin he could be, he'd do everything he could to use his abilities to their fullest. Instead he's using inferior weapons and tactics. Just think of how much better he'd be if he were colored properly, and using a gun.
P.S. You can talk up those shuriken all you want, but I saw the video. Doesn't matter how good they are if they're too slow to hit anything and have an incredibly short range.
Yeah, the game is completely non canon.
the genji in game isn't genji because that is us we're controlling the game so really genji has no say in his life decisions we control him like a puppet it's just the argument on why chara is not evil if anything we're the evil ones causing frisk to kill everyone that they loved*probably* in the previous play so in every game the character doesn't make the bad choices *like in mass effect*...we are
Gajin Goombah : "Roadhog is better ninja than Genji."
Me : "Oh... He is going to need healing for that burn."
Genji needs heeling to exist
The bar has never been set lower
In fact the bar is lying on the floor
You literally need to not trip over it
in the words of the wise: "Gonna need a senzu for that one"
6:07
if Skallgrim has taught me anything other than how to end someone rightly, is that don't draw your sword from your back like that, it's never gonna work.
T2266 Skallagrim is the king of Viking’s, but his lessons ring true
Didn't skallagrim and shadiversity show that drawing across the back was possible, although they did use specially made scabbards.
Jon Ruch yes they did
@@jonruch1128 Shad used a modified scabbard just for that to work. And Skall didn't do it across the back, but form one side of the back, with the help of a dropping backpack.
T2266 Scabbards like that actually do indeed exist and Skall no matter in what position or whatever was still proved that you can have back scabbards in fact Shad even fully admitted that he’d rather have a back scabbard seeing how it would be more convenient
The fact that Roadhog is a better ninja than Genji is... Really depressing. xD
Depressing, but at the same time hilarious. XD
He also does a better job at keeping quiet than Genji.
@@aaronolson6736 And most certainly better than his partner.
Genji may also weigh more than Roadhog, being a full body cyborg in armor. Which should be -1 point for Genji being outside the Body Mass Index for a ninja.
Wat!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!?
Could you do a "Which Ninja" episode on Ninjago? I know the show is mostly made for kids but its probably the most mainstream Ninja show in the west after the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I can already tell that the Ninjago Ninja are not the most accurate but an in-depth analysis to see how accurate they are would be cool. Plus, at least one of those Ninjago Ninja dresses in blue. ;-)
Hello there.
Jay my favourite
Well there is the episode where Zane's outfit comes out as pink and he uses that to his advantage to hide himself.
Also most of the weapons are accurate, minus Cole's
the shuriken thing makes sence, yeah ...
but you forgot the fact that austin already covered genji in his *the science* series and esthablished the fact that genji throws these things at inhuman levels at a point where they can cut through *steel*
sure he could've miscalculated a *little* bit, but it would still be deadly af
Against energy shields and tank grade body armor?
@@garrettlich7140 if be throws a dozen at them sure
@@l0sts0ul89 or just give him an anti tank rifle, hell genji with firearms would be insane
This video just told me how much Genji could use a rework.
I think they did make him incompetent deliberately.. Hanzo case show that they did they research.
@@TheRezro Well Genji are the parts they rejected from Hanzo to make him a balanced range character, I think giving Genji points for his alpha build is rewarding him for not being the ninja he could of been, points for the ninja he FAILED TO BECOME!!! Instead of penalising him for the ninja he is.
Also no mention of his Body Mass Index, hes a tall full metal cyborg and he is running around sandstone ancient buildings, mudbrick walls and ceramic roof tiles... he has to weigh easily as much than Roadhog or Winston, and less than DVA's mech or Bastion. And how does he Parkour with a 1 metre blade loosly attached to his back?
@@boxhead6177 Toony one did judge him as ninja he is not. Real one just state his opinion and the fact that he is bad ninja by design, when he could be a good ninja otherwise.
kurisu7885
or a new hero based on the old idea for genji
like another ninja
@kurisu7885 Totally with you on that one!
Who else sings the Which Ninja Theme every time
Charlie Latino what is it though?
Brental Floss?
I try to, but I slip off the beat usually during the beginning part.
Maybe someday when you can Equip different weapons to the Heroes OverWatch like TF2, we can maybe try that Old Gameplay Concept of Genji with his Sword (-:
A sound idea but that would open up a problem with competitive balance; TF2 has had years to work it out. I'd be fascinated how Blizzard would incorporate this
Metalisalearning77 they could make it so you have to recover the weapons during the match making it so you have to collect them before you can use them, maybe include an armory for each team near the center of the map which are only accessible to the team they belong to. What they could do is set up each Hero with either 2 or 3 weapons to choose from each of which is suited to a different play style and the abilities the Hero has change with the weapon they are using, such as when Genji has the sword his shuriken when thrown at a wall or floor imitate his voice upon impact drawing attention to where it was throw to letting him then come up from behind to strike.
considering how blizzard works with game balance, even hinting them complexity and player expresiones tends to be an alien concept for them
I think he should Parkour with the Genji Blade on his back! Try climbing a wall with a metre long blade on your back, or balance with an assymetrical weight on your back.
He could simply use the three weapons like mercy or torb and have another ultimate.
The other thing about Sombra is that she actually spends her day doing ninja stuff like gathering secret info on people and organizations.
Wish early Genji was the one we got, I'd love to play like that. Being able to ambush opponents and have a strong melee weapon is exactly what I needed
Yeah but he had the exact same health at point blank range and do you see the problem yet
I still want to snipe people in game
Yeah and the sword is his main weapon ranged is Hanzos thing
Cut Genji some slack, lore-wise he's supposed to be a terrible ninja, when he was young he literally dyed his hair green and skipped ninja training to go play arcade games, so how is he supposed to be a good ninja?
Show is not here to cut slack, just tell you if a ninja sucks at being a ninja
Its not that he skipped training he skipped his family duties which were tied to CRIME for arcades.
Yes, it is why he give him six points.. he is terrible as ninja, but it is the point of this character. He originally was meant to be a Ninja, but after research creators noticed that popular myth and what ninjas were, aren't exactly the same. It is why real ninja stuff was turn into Hanzo and some other characters, when Genji was turn into a joke.
I think that's a reason as to why he is a terrible ninja, but he still is a terrible ninja.
@@TheHeavyshadow Yes, that what toony one said. But at the same time he is someone who chose to be terrible anime ninja, but he still have proper shinobi training.
I thought the worst ninja in gaming was that famous Fortnite player...
he'll ensure you get banned
maybe we could do that for a april fools episode, analyze his playstyle and see how stealthy he is or how he compares to what the game gives him and other players
@@Petrico94 I hate the fact that it's a hilarious idea.
True that.
*Prebubescent screaming in the distance
Video is amazing your videos inspire me to go the extra mile when it comes to Japanese culture and mythology I'm now looking more into samurai yoki and Shinto and I'm even doing kendo and learning Japanese fun fact the odatchi / nodatchi was used for executions due to its crushing power after it was found to be hard to use in battle
Owen Gwyn I definitely second all your sentiments, and I also tried kendo out for a while. But what I wanted to say was that the odatchi fills a similar role to the European claymore. Though, there was a different sword used for executions. It was called an executioners’ sword (does what it says on box). It was an exceptionally heavy sword, the closes widely known counterpart would be Cloud’s buster sword from Final Fantasy. It’s a fascinating sword simply for the fact that it was never meant to be used in combat. It is much to large and heavy to fight with, and is only used on unarmed targets who aren’t resisting.
@@GusCraft460 your correct and funny you say that cus Nodatchi Translates to claymore or grate sword
It was calculated that genji throws the shurikens as hard as a gun shoots so I wouldn't call them bad or weak.
and the fact they're 3 pointed makes the mgood for penetration according to the one expert in the video
Genji's primary fire (his shuriken) are literally the ability that does the least amount of damage in his entire toolkit, with one shuriken doing 28 damage. Only after quick succession and all headshots do the numbers really rack up, which is reminiscent of how shuriken would be required to hit the head, neck or chest to deal significant damage to an opponent. Other than his shurikens, literally every other one of his abilities is a blade, be it his deflect, his dash or his ultimate he always uses a blade, and all of them do more than the base damage of the shuriken, Heck even a quick melee attack does more damage, at 30 damage, and it yet again is a blade.
Also, many Genji players utilise high ground to increase likelihood of headshots hitting, as well as being an example of Tanooki Gakure No Jutsu. See renowned players such as ShaDowBurn dominate with Genji. They aren't reliant on their team as much as other heroes are because of their survivability, in deflect deterring the enemy from shooting and swift strike in making a quick getaway.
I’m already Genji.
@_M_U_D_A_ I'm already Widowmaker
I'm already Winston
NERF
*BASTION*
@NessplayerXD_____WDKinc im oready genji
@@laurasaldanagerrero9361 Do you need heeling?
Soooooooooooooooo Warframe next?????? Please?????
Also good job getting Dai to animate that scene!!
praise lotus
Oooh, a hearted comment, that's a good sign.
Though, to be honest, we've kind of not been Ninja for a while despite the tagline. So I'm not expecting a very high grade to be honest, short of the Tenno's tendency to hit-and-run on unsuspecting areas.
@@lozm4835 Frames were never ninja.They were labeled as similar to ninja,but many frames were designed for non stealth missions like rhino,inaros,and even mirage.
The ninja tag line was solely attributed to excalibur,ash and loki.The rest...eh not so much.
@@bearandthebull2372 I see where your wrong way of thinking about ninja comes from, i mean come on media games tv and all that,however,warframe is the perfect representation of ninja's each and every frame is more ore less a good ninja because ninja as far as i know they where meant to complete certain objectives,ranging from protection,to information stealing,to even guerilla warfare.And you have different warframes for different situations,wile in all missions stealth is heavily rewarded trough experience and bonus dmg,there are missions where you just cant go stealthy and there you get your surviving warframes.Ninjas adapted to their situations and used tools propelry and as you know you have a variety of weapons and warframes to choose from to bestly aproach your missions.
Cheers ^^
🅱️iMbO iS tHe BeSt NiNjA
Edit - If you take the mind tricks (Nyx)
the stealth (Ivara)
the disarming (Loki)
the survivability (Inaros)
the independence (Harrow)
the non-reflective blue (prisma)
the arrangement of weapons
the various stances
and combine them you will have the very essence of a ninja
Woah woah woah. Cut Genji some slack here bud. I saw a few of your points that I think needs a bit of a counter argument, and this is coming from a guy who’s played since launch, started as a Genji main (no longer) and whose friend is now a diehard Genji main.
Throwing Stars:
Yeah, these are now really great as a primary, but what’s important is how Genji players use them. Genji players use a specific tactic in which they gain close quarters combat with an enemy then use their stars (burst) then their sword (quick melee). Would this not be loosely considered valid? A ninja using throwing stars then going in for a melee attack? Also, you stated yourself that throwing stars were only deadly if you hit an area like the head or throat. That is EXACTLY the Genji play style. In order for a Genji to be useful, they have to hit headshots consistently.
Play style:
You stated Roadhogs style of play is more akin to that of a ninja. Well the way that you described him (minus the hook) is how a Genji should play! They are a flanking hero, whereas road hog punishes poor positioning, Genji forces poor positioning, killing weaker, more valuable targets like healers or other flankers. Not to mention, he is incredibly mobile! I’m ashamed you didn’t mention his wall climb and double jump! While ninja likely didn’t have a double jump, I’m sure they had tools to scale walls to USE THE VERY PERCHING STYLE YOU PRAISED. In fact, many Genji players use this tactic, hiding in high altitude areas that they can reach due to their incredible mobility.
Clothing:
Okay, I get that Ninja wear blue. But why do they wear blue? Because they work during the night, specifically so that the night sky and forest would blend in it’s their coloration. But Genji isn’t a forest ninja. The majority of missions he goes on are DAYLIGHT MISSIONS IN URBAN AREAS IN THE FUTURE. Ninja would have to adapt to the new architecture. There are no tall tree to hide in, only large white and chrome buildings. Also, the skins are VERY canon. The younger skins of him are him when he was younger, and other heroes have been shown to wear the skins in game in CANONICAL COMICS. Case in point: Ana’s shrike skin. She wears it in the comics dealing with “current” story. While this is a lesser point, don’t doubt that Genji would know to wear blue/ navy. Also, he didn’t design the suit, mercy did, blame her if anyone.
“I need healing”:
Really...
REALLY?
You’re going to use a meme about poor Genji players as your main argument?! Well then, scout must have the same problems because of the 123 health scout meme. You see how idiotic that is? Allow me to explain the meme, this meme is used to characterize bad Genji players who don’t understand picking battles and utilizing environmental healing. Most Genjis can protect themselves just fine by using their reflect and confusing the enemy with double jumps.
Overall, this just seemed to be an oversimplification of Genji. While i am neither “exposing” you nor calling you stupid, maybe you should have talked to Genji players too so that you could see the similarities in strategy.
Thanks GG, love your content as always!
The Lord Char dude they’re probs bronze mercy mains. We can tell they’re bronze based on aim and how they’re in qp.
He wasn't saying Genji was bad ninja specifically because of the meme he was saying he was a bad ninja because he didn't have anyway to help or recover himself such as regenerating shields or some sort of self healing ability. Heck it doesn't even need to be a self healing ability he used Sombra as an example of something similar that could also work for a ninja. Scout isn't a ninja and his personality is someone who tries to get the first hit in and isn't exactly subtle about it. He was just using the meme as a joke/segway to his next point so I wouldn't consider it idiotic.
What Gaijin said about ninja stars is that they are usually used for distraction not directly hurting someone. Now while what you say about Genji players is true it doesn't really invalidate Gaijins point because the stars are still Genjis main source of damage(the dash not only has cool down, but using it recklessly will get you killed while Genji's stars typically safer and still offer a consistent source of damage that can at least keep up with the primary fire of other heroes).
The way you describe poor positioning makes it sound like genji PUNISHES poor position not creating it. He punishes Healers or squishes(and their teammates) for being unaware or in a bad position. While yes he is putting the opponent at a disadvantage he is not "creating" poor positioning he is punishing lack of awareness or already bad positioning. If you are gonna argue that this would intern force the team to change positions, well 1 their next position is not automatically be bad and may be in fact better then the previous positioning as they realize what just happened 2 by that logic roadhog also creates poor positioning by also killing healers, squishes and other players and forcing the team to adapt to what just happened even if he is punishing bad positioning he is forcing them into a worse "position". if anything roadhog would punish poor positioning by that logic.
I kind of agree with your point about ninjas wearing blue you can't blame Gaijin for giving the criticism. Assuming we exclude things like maps because any hero can play on any map so they are for the most part noncanned. The only times we have really seen Genji in action is the Hanzo and Genji short an animation where he hides in the DARK before striking and a clip of the doomfist short during the day. Overall the hanzo short gives us way more information about how Genji operates and his fighting style than anything else we have seen. Now I could be wrong because to be honest I need to catch up on the comics.
The rest of your points about things like mobility I agree with, but to me the reason you do not have more likes is your kind of missing gaijins actual points and focusing on stuff he didn't say or are not important. Also technically not ALL of Genjis young skins are cannon in the same way that not ALL of Genji's modern/normal skin colors and variations are cannon off the top of my head I'm pretty sure there are only three cannon Genji skins. The normal stock one, the blackwatch one and the young one with the green hair.
@Polarize ??? There are a number of top tier competitive players that main Genji at events dude. If you're doing ranked matches as Genji and you feel like he's terrible, it's because you're not using the strategies that are best suited to the character.
Dapper Parraper okay do u know how fast his shuriken travel and there made from future bullshit metal they could easily kill
Daniel Hounshell lol genji in goats get real buddy
I feel like Genji could still be sneaky and just carry the odachi like you see them doing historically, since he would just have to hold it in his left hand, or they could've had the sort of open sheath style like Shadiversity did, or hell, MAGNETIZE IT TO HIS BACK IF YOU HAVE TO
I'm not sure if she's been in the running, but perhaps you could take a look at Blake Belladonna of RWBY. It may have been just me, but I noticed a few parallels between her and Ishikawa Goemon. Her weapon also strikes me as being rather fitting for a ninja as well.
Gamble Shroud , a submachine pistol that dobles as both a short sword and a Kama(is that how it's called?) with a lengthy ribbon attached to the handle
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Gambol Shroud is actually a straight up katana, not a shortsword
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 right...
Kira Yoshikage for Which Ninja
1) He love's his bombs
2) Stands are invisible to non Stand users
3) Has mastered disguise to the point of hiding using someone else's identity
4) Gets rid of the bodies
5) Finds a way to weaponize anything he can, including panties and a ghost cat plant
6) Kills anyone who knows who he really is
7) Will either end the fight as quickly as possible or run away to survive
8) Made sure that the only person who knew his true identity literally *physically* could not tell anyone
Anything else I missed?
Had a hand fetish
Lives a quite normal life so nobody suspects him.
1) Is capable of ignoring extreme pain for the sake of survival
2) Went out of his way to limit himself in any and all ways possibles to become average to the eyes of the world even in childhood
3) His disguise includes mastering the disguised's handwriting
4) Extremely analytical yet able to make convicing lies on the spot
Actually speaking of that - i know this wouldn't be up Gajin's ally or at least i think so but i would love to see an analysis on the Execution Squad from JoJo Part 5 aka assassin squad and which of the group are the most effective masters of stealth and assassination
Hell in Dead Man Questions he literally becomes an ghost assassin
Shadiversity did a video about practical back sheaths and their strengths/ weaknesses. That being said, the design of genji's back sheath isn't practical at all.
@Rowan Sharp I mean in shad's video he was able to do a cartwheel with it still staying on his back, but I completely agree. Obviously the back sheath is for more of a cool factor in genji's instance.
@@Skylander404 if only it opened up to make the feat possible and efficient, be it by technology or magic. He outright uses a magic sword.
@@andresmarrero8666 I always wondered why scifi swords depicted in games didnt have like a magnetic sheath that was partly open. That way they could rip it from the sheath opening (more of a slit really) and it would make perfect sense.
@@Skylander404 No clue. It seems to be something that people forget, or they are too enthralled with the romantization of samurai. Though looking at most of them, they seem to be obsessed with space and Gundam shaped robots who wouldn't be able to properly work on a terrestrial environment. Enough of lasers, can we do another version of sci-fi that doesn't involve space, humaniod robots, or a dystopian or bland future?
not only did he that HE MADE A USABLE SHEATH.
its called the shadard
That is one angry Goombah...I like the cut of his jib
Edit: also thanks to the little dude we have fresh memes
Who voices him?
@@JaelinBezel the man himself. They are one and not one at the same time
@@djinsanity3575Is this the same "The Man" that the hippies are always going on about?
To be fair, in the futuristic chrome-y world of Overwatch, silver and beige would be decently useful colors to camouflage with buildings, not to mention the fact that much of Hanamura Castle is also similar colors. But then again, I'm not the expert here
I feel it unfair on how you mentioned Roadhogs playstyle but not Genji's
Genji often times hides either behind or above the enemy, often giving information to his teammates and then goes in to either disable (by making the enemy use cooldowns, which sombra does) by making them low on hp and panic
If the genji is skilled enough he can often burst the enemy down with combos of his abilities
It takes high skill (just like ninja)
Even Shoddycast did the math and Genji's shuriken can do alot of real life damage (near bullet level)
Genji's wall climb and double jump gives him some of the best mobility in the game and this lets him hide in places only he can (sometimes places even sombra can't get to)
Survivability? Genji takes alot of skill and knowledge to pull off but he can also be very effective. His deflect and dash allows the player to escape bad situations and a like ninja good Genji's would know where all the health packs are and how to play around them or his healers
I just wanted to get this off my chest cause you guys didn't give the boy a fair chance in going through everything about him (including the most important part, his playstyle)
I'm not saying he's amazing but he deserves at least a 7/10
Oh and btw, alot of the alternate skinns are cannon. They even have Bois for some of them like young Genji or Sparrow (the nickname his father gave him)
As an avid player of Genji, to survive was the earliest strategy I adopted. Knowing the map, where the health packs are and the position of the enemy team, the high mobility made it easy to slip away from trouble and get patched up quickly. If anything, asking for healing is the last thing I do as Genji.
And this was all thanks to the Genji guide you posted all these years ago. Thanks, GG.
ITS HERE! THE FABLED VIDEO!
Hi, Jeb! How's the rescue mission going? Will we hear from Bob soon enough?
Ok, I know real Ninja wear blue, but even so... that's because the night sky was blue in feudal era Japan...
if Genji normally ran around in say the billboards and along the windows/walls of skyscrapers, that near concrete white/gray and the neon flipping green accent that could be turned on or off would make "some" amount of sense, cause he'd be able to turn off the lights to blend in to gray/white concrete of the urban landscape and he could use his neon to try and look like part of a light up billboard (and who's to say there isn't any other colors that even the basic skin "could" light up into, we only see one in game because game logic).
Finally, for those who say that not all cities or parts of a city would even have anything that he could blend into... you're absolutely right. But if he's always in the one city in that outfit where it blends the best... that's all he needs it for (and who's to say the basic recolors actually are not canonical, because that "could" be his entire ensemble of outfits for the right job/location, right? Lets be honest here, disguises and camouflage is as much part of a Ninja's tool kit as the actual tools themselves).
Exactly what I was thinking! Take a look at the Doomfist animation and notice how Genji kinda camos with urban landscape. Put him in the skyline of Busan at night with his lights on and he's just another graphic right before you get a kodachi up your backside.
That's....actually a good point. Gaijin should consider it in future videos. But still.....Genji is every stereotype people think of a ninja. And some of Gaijin's arguments still stands like the sword length and preservation issue. Don't get me wrong, I like Genji, I think he's the coolest looking character in Overwatch, despite all criticisms.
@@turbohawk551 He has multiple means of preservation though, the double jump can make it hard to pin him down, his wall climbing gives him the ability to get better positioning and escape enemies, his reflect gives an opening to get to a better position or find cover while dealing damage, and his dash allows you get out of practically any dangerous situation instantaneously. Not to mention if you're spending the entire match scouring the map for healing packs, you're just a bad Genji player. His sword length is actually typical of a standard katana, definitely not a nodachi, the fact that he mistook it for one is actually kind of hilarious. The problem with Genji is that he wears it on his back. Drawing it from the hip gives you way more range with which to draw your weapon, from the back you're basically just relying on your arm's length, so you can never really draw a blade any longer than that.
I'm reminded of the Samurai Jack episode where he fights the ninja in columns of shadow and light beams. Black vs White
Gameplay wise however his coloring makes him stand out like a sore thumb, he contrasts everything he stands near so it's easy to spot him when firing from almost any distance. Sombra, reaper, hanzo, even mei have a palette that helps them blend into their environment to do their job which genji's doesn't. So even if it makes sense in lore in practice it's awful.
Is Spiderman a ninja?
I wouldn’t say so, a lot of enemies know his secret identity and he talks way too much
@@storytellerofwilds133 In this very episode. Gaijin says that Ninja are known to say things to get under the skin of their targets.
Spider-Ninja, your a genius!
Let's see...Super-agile, advanced sensory skills, and smart enough to build whatever he needs to handle the next enemy...Yeah, I can see that.
Imagine what will Genji and Hanzo say when they see this
2:04 gotta appreciate the 2003 shredder sound effect there
Not all the skins are non canonical.
Blackwatch, nomad and sparrow skins are all part the story.
Also using MGR Raiden as an example (and no doubt the inspiration for his design)
You can argue the sheath extends and retracts along the back as needed.
As for the survival aspects,
that comes down to player skill.
I'm not even close to the pro genji players but I rarely need healing and I personally am a Bation main's worst nightmare.
Also I bring up the fact lore wise that Genji is dead in the public eye, murdered by his brother.
The identity of the cyborg ninja is not known to anyone except overwatch the people who gave him the cybernetic.
Sombra might have a cloak ability but her identity is public, with a handle she goes by, her hideout has her fucking name on the front door and she's for hire.
Same for Roadhog, him and Junkrat are wanted anarchists.
I'm okay with criticizing the obvious flaws like his color scheme and primary weapon.
But don't just ignore everything else just to drive home a point further than what it actually can go.
This is about genji in the real world as a ninja and his CURRENT design.
Now I wait for rage!
@@saucebou1069 That really changes nothing.
So far that only really leaves his primary weapon and color scheme as the only issues.
Which his body is customizable like all robots/cyborgs.
HA. YOU FELL INTO MY TRAP YOU FANBOY!
Sry not sry. C:
Sorry but I agree with the video. If you can't fix two of the _easiest things to change_ then you're terrible at your job.
That's like saying a street racer who never puts oil in his car or clears the mud off his windshield is still a great street racer.
Dark-Slayer we also know road hogs name so him hiding his face doesn’t mean anything
I always figured the worst ninjas in media were the Power Rangers. Nothing says "stealth" like giant robots!
titanfall 2, halo, metroids chozo
But someof thier summons actually reference things. They covered it with a special guest
Less so than you might think. He actually did an episode on them
Because Sentai aren't ninjas.. but some ninjas were turn into Super Senati groups. In Japanese version most of them did have basic Shinobi training. Also there are sources what suggest that Shinobi could use puppetry to scare superstitious samurai invading they households. So even if mecha castles are overblown, there is some merit regard that.
*+Ghostwriter* No, the title of WORST ninja of all time has to go to the characters of _Ninjago_ - seriously, I don’t think I’ve seen a less stealthy group of people in all my life. Every villain of the show must be half-deaf with how much the Ninja get away with.
So that's why Sephiroth never sheaths his Masamune!
And why Cloud's sword is attached to his back by...magnets?
He probably threw the sheath away a long time ago because that sucker's like nine feet long let's be real, wielding the sword itself is unwieldy enough without having to hold onto another 9 foot length of material in your other hand.
It would be easier if the sheath could open and close to catch the blade
the overwatch world is really bright. a lot of the maps have bright white/silver buildings and neon lights everywhere. it would make sense for genii to be wearing bright metals since that's what all the buildings look like. plus actual genji is nothing like the game. he's way more op with his swords but they limit their use for balance purposes
to be fair, if you look past the drawing of dragonblade being impossible he uses Oodachi pretty well, large slow damaging swings that two shot opponents, and even the way good genji's get past that with using animation cancels to make the swings extremely fast is quite ninja-like (i.e attacking as fast as possible)
Let's just say everyone in Overwatch is more ninja than Genji 🤣
crcoghill
Especially Reaper 🤣
Zarya is not only best girl, but best NINJA!
symm and reaper can teleport tracer is fast orisa has a way to protect herself pretty well it goes on and on everyone is a better ninja than genji
Rieheart can ambush.
What ever happened to to your One Piece videos?
I mean, the fact that he is a cyborg does mean he kinda failed at being a ninja at some point and got taken down. So, maybe not a very successful ninja.
Hanzo is the better ninja
He was never a ninjs he was supposed to be part of a yakuza type clan he was just trained with swords n such for most likely gang espionage.
Because he lost to Hanzo his older brother
Well Hanzo did kill him from behind and Genji was less of a ninja and not very skilled (or batman like)
14:15 People. Don't. Look. Up. It's true in both video games and real life.
They also don't look behind them.
I believe the quote is "People seldom look up"
I wasn't quoting anything, I was speaking from experience.
And when I realized it myself, I started making a conscious effort to defy that.
How about Raven and Master Raven from Tekken series?
I would've gone with Yoshimitsu.
@@wolfhurricane897 Raven straight up calls Yoshimitsu out for being a poor Ninja, and later tries to teach him the Kuji-in, and Yoshimitsu can't do it.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 Yoshimitsu gets better at it in Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and think about this. Aside from being in the Manji Clan. What do we really know 100 percent about Yoshimitsu?
spy a better ninja then genji
And spy isn't Japanese
Irony?
Clearly he was... outclassed,
Time somebody acknowledge Sombra as the og ninja she is
Whaaaat? You doubt the big obvious neon green robot that never shuts up is a good ninja?
2:53 Thank You Gaijin Goomba for this memeful material
wait.... maybe just maybe the blade extends only after it is drawn but in sheath is much smaller and the rest is just for looks. With his tech it would make sense and it accounts for the sword never being seen taken in or out at full length
The blade is smaller when sheathed, there's a button like thing he pressed which then expand the blade
Oh ho, you've been taking smack about Genji for a while now-couldn't wait until you were ready to rant against him. XD Was NOT DISAPPOINTED,
Ok so three things one for durability he has deflect and dash for escape the reason why the "i need healing" joke came about was because some people dont know that when you get low you use swift strike to disengage and find a health pack or for your healer to find you, second you forgot to mention his passive, his passive you have wall climb and double jump both mobility abilities that allow either for escape, dodgeing your opponent, or simply going a route that other carecters can't, and finally as you mentioned genji has many cyborg enhancements which gives him a few things but you didn't mention the fact that maybe they enhance his strength? You know to make them fly faster and hit harder? All in all this was an amazing episode i was just wondering why you didn't tame these things into account
I feel as though some things here against genji are in a manner rather unjust.
Of course the I need healing meme is well in the name a decent amount of a meme. In reality his suitability isn't as lacking as the video makes it appear, between being able to use dash, deflect, double jump and wall climb genji is actually a rather survivable hero in duels. Many would actually consider his movement to be better than sombras as it's less one and done single tp.
Other things of note are that there is actually a number of canonical skins for genji, Bedouin, nomad ,sparrow, young genji, blackwatch and of course the default are all conically confirmed. Many of these infact would be extreamly good at hiding a ninja in they would be used. Some good well suited attire I would like to bring up is the nomad skin and the blackwatch skin. Outside of the red the colours of the blackwatch skin heavily suit the urban and military environments it would be used in meshing well with greys and whites of concrete and metal panneling that would be found in those locations. Next is Bedouin, at first the colour match well to the sandy pale arabic areas it would likely have been used in during genji's search for meaning post overwatch being disbanded.
Another thing which is a solid point towards genji is how well his identity was actually concealed, to the point of outside of overwatch genji's own brother didn't even know of his existence. Aswell as his ever present concealing of his face and facial details e.g. contacts in the blackwatch skin to disguise his exposed eyes.
As for playstyles they really can't be used to judge the character here, though in bringing up road hog you pointed out a ambush, hook and kill tactic which is definitely used commonly. But arguably more common are peel hogs that protect squisy's in the backline and frountline hogs that apply barrier damage (the direction blizzard has been taking the hero with balance patches). This also can apply to genji as you said where he can be played in a very, backline assassin taking out priority targets after infiltrating and observing things such as treats and useful tools. As for primary weapon being shurikens, this is in a way slightly untrue much of genji's kit is heavily based in his short sword (his entire play is based around dash resetting a move performed with the blade.
Granted there is a lot of ranting here, but I though I would add a few things I found cool about genji in terms of ninja authenticity (mainly concepts s I learned though this show)
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To be fair, in video games and other forms media, when a character has a long sword on his back, (most notably Ryu Hayabusa) the sword is never truely sheethed and unsheethed due to its long length so they take animated shortcuts
Honestly I feel like given the neo-futuristic setting white and beige would blind in pretty well (sorta anyway in the dark it wouldn’t work for heck)
I'd say genji is just a bad ninja because balance ingame and for being more Fun and in the lore he's a better ninja.
I need healing
Funny that the spy is more of a Nina than Genji
4:50 I feel like this part is being underrated.
even if genji is white and gray that doesn't really matter if you factor the dragons short in to this. we saw him hide fairly well in the dark even with bright colors and he also has a near silent step when landing. despite being white and gray he was still able to get hanzo to lose track of him and lets not forget the dude straight up vanishes in a puff of smoke. genji also uses his blade to attack and defend more than the shuriken.
The sword thing reminded me, someone made a sword that is strapped to his back but has a slit on the side with a guide for him to sheathe and un sheathe it
You never mentiond how one of Genji's voice lines before going into battle is the actual Kuji-in
As a person that mains mercy I find this episode extremely entertaining
have you seen any speed lucios in your time playing?
Victor Vu I have.
It’s quiet annoying at times
Gaijin The Human: 6 Shuriken out of 10[What he COULD'VE been before his current design]
The Goomba Ninja:1 Shuriken out of 10[I Need Healing; Too Bright Colored; Sword's Too Big; Shuriken ain't too effective, etc]
The dragon sword sheath DOES open up from the side, though the replica and animation doesn't show it (the blade just warps itself, because fine-detailed animation is hard... and expensive). Notice the sheath has a black, plastic or ceramic clasp near the top, with a tapered edge folding up and away from the center. The material means this design was molded and deliberate (as opposed to a leather wrap simply pulled taut), and the shape implies it was designed not to resist pressure from underneath and to slide out of the way (much like a door latch and locking plate are tapered in the direction the door is supposed to close). This gap is small enough not to catch on foliage or interfere with movement, but is large enough to catch the blade and, with a simple twist, flick open easily without looking at it. If it were meant as a simple holder, seal, or carrying clasp, the notch would fold DOWN to *resist* pressure from inside (like a bicycle lock or belt buckle), and be flush with the rest of it to avoid catching on anything.
One might ask how the clasp itself doesn't interfere with or hook on the blade? Logically, the clasp must be flush. If it were magnetic, it would both hold the clasp closed and re-close it automatically when the sword is drawn or replaced (which also explains why we always see it closed; it would only be open a fraction of a second). This kind of technology currently exists in military and police equipment (usually for quickly holstering firearms or baton), as well as high-end camping equipment to automatically re-seal a screen door and block insects. Definitely something a high-tech cyborg would be familiar with.
All of this is visible in the footage from this very video. Doesn't excuse the other silliness, of course, but... I think it's kind of a neat observation and thought exercise.
I get for the alternative skins like young genji and hanzo… but his color swaps? you'd think a cyborg ninja could change the parts of his suit to match his assignment right?
Tbh he is the only reason i still play this game
when genji would be a melee char i think he would be the only hero i would play
The last time is was this early I died
Edit: Holy cow. I didn’t think I would get a heart. Not gonna lie. Great episode though.
Then how are you here? =3
Gaijin Goombah Media
The answer is memes. I really need to change my PFP and Name back. Lol
Gaijin Goombah Media next can you do Spider-Man on witch ninja?
Andrey Santiago I.... Explain?
I think Genji deserves another look. Blizzard has come out starting that the portrayal in the game is only loosely cannon. In the manner that this game is a real videogame in universe. In the world of overwatch the game is how genji is displayed. But if you look at the comics and the animated short Dragons, you start to see a difference. First the look. Goombah here complained that he was shiny, reflective, and covered in neon lights. Putting aside that you see in the Dragons short that he can turn the lights on and off at will, where do you think he is sent on missions? Dense futuristic cities where his abilities keep him high up, near bright neon lights and metal surfaces. He blends in to the environment he works in. In game he uses shuriken as his primary weapon. But in the Dragons short he only used them once. And that was as a tool to clip the feathers off the majority of Hanzo's arrows. Every other attack he uses a sword. Ninjas like tech right *slaps genji* YOU CAN FIT SO MUCH TECH IN THIS BABY. You see in Dragons that when Genji lands it is utterly silent. So we got noise canceling tech. You see him dash at high speeds climb. And when he does use his dragon move he does it to gain the advantage in combat. In the short he mostly used it to prove his identity to Hanzo. So I'd love a Genji revisit with a closer look at the Comics and Animated short
One problem I have is the bit on shuriken. It would be relevant if they were thrown by a normal person, but genji throws these at comperable speeds to bullets meaning no matter what it is an effective primary weapon as well as being very quiet.
In my opinion you guys are being way to harsh on genji and are miss representing things. To start off, Genji fights with in melee distance most of the time, within the enemy's backline, using his wide throwing shuriken technique. He doesn't fight from a distance. Also Genji's shurikens, just like real life don't do that much damage unless you hit a head shot and even than it really isn't much.
Please culturally analyze RWBY or The Darksiders franchise or ninja analyze the assassins in Assassin’s Creed
Doing Blake would be cool
Blake or Tyrion would be great ninjas to cover
I know this video was posted one year ago, but I’ve been thinking about it, you could’ve given Genji more points for his appearance because ninjas are supposed to blend in to their environment right? And genji’s environment is mostly futuristic city’s with a lot of white, brown and metallic grey, maybe with neon lights. If he were hiding behind a green neon light he could have his lights on in order to not cast a shadow making him nearly invisible! However in more rural places such as junkertown or Route 66 he does definitely stick out like a sore thumb. Anyways I really enjoy these videos, helping me learn more about real life Shinobi! Keep up with the great videos giving me some real good....Culture Shock
In regards to drawing a a sword from the back there are ways to do that practically. It’s a point of discussion among European martial arts in regards to longswords or bigger. Granted without knowing how long genji’s sword is it’s hard to say but it’s totally possible to draw a sword carried on your back using specific ways and specialised scabbards.
About this sword, I noticed something similar but in the opposite effect with Impa. Has anyone else played as Impa in Hyrule Warriors? She uses this gigantic, totally unrealistic and unfeasable blade, a Goron's Knife. A blade at le as t 6 feet long and easily a foot in width and an inch or 2 in thickness. This blade is entirely impossible for anyone to feasibly use in combat. But the hilt is way more realistic than most video game/anime character's blades. If you look closely, you can see the she doesn't draw the blade from hilt to base, nor does she return it as such. The hilt has a slit on the side about a foot up the length of it, essentially opening up to the blade. When she draws it she pulls it out about a foot then brings her arm down, tilting the blade at and angle and raising it up out of the hilt via that slit. When she returns the blade she does the same thing swinging the blade down sideways across the hilt then pushing it down that last foot of length. Combine that with the fact that while the blade is totally unusable in real life, she can string together attacks that swing the blade around at crazy speeds taking out multiple opponents. She's also super flexible and acrobatic, sometimes planting the blade in the ground and swinging around it, letting her attack everyone in the event she's surrounded. She can even swing that giant blade with her legs...somehow. She wears blue (and sometimes dark purple in other games) she has incredible stealth capabilities, recall that in Ocarina of Time she's the Sage of Shadow, she very knowledgeable and even taught Zelda everything she knows which is the only reason Zelda is even mildly successful as Sheik, who's already been established as a very good ninja.
The ancient technique of dodging was a blast XD ;]
11:20 Another aspect you didn't mention about Roadhog's ninja similarities is his gun. His primary fire can be compared to the Nigiri-Teppo, both being a close-range burst that does tons of damage to an opponent.
Nice but i propose the idea of finaly stoping the teass with warframe and actualy do it cus there is a hand full of ninjas so please do it also the melee and primary + secondary and tech it pyukes ninja all over so just do it
From the looks of it, Oberon can be Counted as a Ninja.
He has High Survivability, can Manipulate the environment with his Hallowed Ground, strike Discord with his Radiation Proccing powers, and his passive connection to his Beast allows them both to Work in tandem.
I'm with ya!! Been climbing that tree for awhile!!
All warframes are supposed to be ninja, but the ninja-iest has got to be a toss up between Loki and Ash.
Video idea: which warframe is the best ninja.
@ItsMeJinxie Okay, what frame is he supposed to analyse then? Or are you proposing he does an entire game's worth of content?
I don't Genji's current design is actually his fault. During the events of the Venice Incident, Genji's armor was far darker in coloration and design, allowing him to better blend into dark urban/industrial environments while also being incredibly intimidating to look at. However, once the events went public, there was probably a big push from the Overwatch PR team to push characters like Genji and McCree into the limelight, as a way of saying "we aren't hiding anything". This could has lead to Genji being redesigned to look more 'family friendly', smoothing out his darker aspects while further covering up any identifiable features (eyes/tattoo), something that wasn't an issue before because, well, no witnesses.
I think you should have done a holiday special of Which Ninja by analyzing the most well-known holiday ninja: Santa. The guy leaves your presents and eats the milk and cookies you leave him without getting caught. Plus since he knows when you're sleeping and if you've been bad or good proves he has good intel gathering skills.
Have you ever thought about reviewing ninja movies like Ninja Assassin or Revenge of the Ninja? I would also be happy if you talk about Snake Eyes from G.I Joe too.
AMERICAN NINJA!
Merry post Christmas goomba. Praying that we can have a Blazblue video in 2019 since there’s a bunch to talk about:
The Amaterasu, Susanoo and tsukiyomu units as well as takamakahara
A which ninja on bang shishigami (alright ninja techniques wise but way too loud and identifiable)
The Nox nyctores
The black beast (most likely a reference to orochi)
And there’s probably more that I don’t remember. Hope we get an episode sometime
Going by the video, wouldn’t Soldier 76 be an excellent ninja? Think about it: masked face and identity, self sufficiency with his biotic field, and a state of the art weapon w/ his pulse rifle
tru but the gun would make too much noise so he gon have to throw some hands
@@greysstudio6807 but ninjas did use guns
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True but they used muskets and stuff , they wanna be accurate not run around blasting everything.
@@l0sts0ul89 you say that but he also has auto aim
In defense of his aesthetic, doesn’t genji normally run around in more brightly lit places? Let’s say he was dressed in all dark blue on, say, the hollywood map? He would stick out like a sore thumb. I know that map still isn’t ideal for his look, but it highlights the idea which has been made clear on this channel many a time that ninja had to change their looks based on where they were traversing.
Google help you convince your partner about Genji and will give you a better outlook on him
I see you use a clip from lt.eddy
>_>
Gaijin Goombah Media can you do a Spider-Man witch ninja for the honor of Stan Lee.
*I don't play Overwatch but from gameplay wise, I'm more of a Tank or Support type of person.*
Shadiversity
made a back scabbard but with the one shown in game forget it
I think we are overlooking a lot of the context involved in Genji as "ninja". A shinobi would not just wear blue, they would wear whatever color best let's them blend into their environment. And surprise surprise, the futuristic design of various overwatch locales just so happen to resemble iPhone stores. His white and chrome color scheme fits that to a T.
Genji and moombah I kind of disagree on the blade being too long I will concede however that under normal circumstances you’ll be right but on a theoretical level it would be possible for Genji to draw his blade in the world that he’s in the way I view it is his sheath mechanically opens up to allow him to draw his blade it just looks like it wouldn’t i’m thinking the most practical spot for that to happen would be on the side that’s facing up of the hilt this would make it easy for slicing animation for pulling out the blade on I can understand if you disagree with me I remember overwatch has elements of sci-fi as well as cultural inspirations so yeah and a lot of areas They’ll be some problems and games have been known to gloss over a heck of a lot of details but as one person who over analyzes things to another look at the picture as a whole and then come to a probability in real life where they start to blur that you find true beauty
PS yes what I’m saying sounds like a stretch Just remember not all ninjas just hide in the shadow And that can go double for the weapons
Amazing Christmas present. XD
Maybe you can redesign bad ninja to be better
I said the worst ninja in gaming is Yuffie from Final Fantasy 7
1. She reveals her face and never wear a color that's stealthy ( I know in the FF7 movie/KH2 she wears a black tank top and shorts but they have white on them which sticks out)
2. Introduce herself to her enemies or opponents.
3. She reveal her NINJA VILLAGE to outsiders it doesn't matter if they are her friends/allies that's extremely dangerous for the village.
4. She uses a GIANT Shuriken star as one of her primary weapons, which Goombah have said in multiple videos shurikens weren't used as weapons in that way.
would love to see a blend of current and og genji in overwatch 2, given i believe a time skip occurs between the 2 games, to make a more authentic ninja
"He has no survival kit." Given how him after Hanzo were raised in a very privileged lifestyle that's a no brainer. Their ninja training, from the looks of it, focused more on combat than anything else. They also live in a world where needs are more readily accessable than back when ninjas came into existence. That's not in defense of either one, it's just an observation of the difference of time and what they have to do to just live.
*Genji is the type of person who shows off all his ninja knowledge but is terrible of actually implementing them.*
Oh, so Sonic from One Punch Man?
I'm starting to see you everywhere.
We need Grey Fox
I love you Gaijin, but you took the cyborg out of the equation when it came to the shuriken. Genji throws them with a force mere humans never could, and they fly across the range almost faster than McCree's bullets. If a shuriken could be thrown with that much force, it wouldn't matter that the weapon was never designed to deliver a lot of force, it's a small, shrapnel shaped piece of metal. It's going to lodge itself deeply into it's target.
If Genji threw one at your stomach, he'd shred your intestines with just one, let alone the three he typically blasts at ya.
But... I also really loved learning about his other weapons. You should do a 101 series on weapons so you don't have to explain weapons in these Which Ninja videos over and over again.
Sephiroth sword is about 86.45 inches
What was the short clip with the gorilla guard? It looks like awesome deadpan comedy.