That is the difference between a less expensive bike and higher end bikes, geometry really makes a difference also. I’m not sure why people get hung up on the fact it looks like an ebike, if I’m going to ride my ebike I really don’t care what others think. There is no hiding it is an ebike. By the way, that trail looked sick! Nice job on that one, looks like my kind of trail lol.
Nice. It looked like a great bike regardless of the motor. The trail you were on certainly put it through its paces. I am not going to get an e bike yet but if the trails I goto had extended climbs like these in the video, I would be hard pressed to come up with a reason to not have one. Thanks Matty. Always appreciate your videos.
@william, so what makes you think an e-bike is the way to go at 61 and hurting everywhere? E-bikes ain't gonna take the burden off but rather give you a false sense of skills cuz it allows you to go beyond what your body is capable of. I don't get this type of mentality. It's like a aging weight lifter who can't do 250lbs bench presses anymore cuz of aching joints or whatever. But somehow they think a motorized machine that'll do half the lifting "allows him" to weight lift again. I sometimes ride with a 73 yo on a regular mtb, still killing it. Ya, he has limits, can't climb too much, too far but he loves and enjoys every minute of what he can do. He has no interest in motorized bikes to allow him to go any further than what his body is capable of. When I get to the point of being incapable of hitting double-blacks and blacks, or doing all day sessions, then that's my limit and I'm gonna respect what my body tells me. I ain't going motorized.
@@MTBr-of-SoCal I understand what you’re saying but places like Mohican in Ohio with a e-bike make it more enjoyable. I’ve done it many times on a pedal bike but much rather do it on a e-bike . I still don’t own a e-mountain bike but have rented them and they are fun and still a work out. When I lived in AZ my girlfriend rode a e-bike and I had a pedal bike and it was a perfect match and we could ride together.
If those E-bikes weren't so expensive I would have one, because they are fun no matter what they say. Unlike you, I like the way they don't use a "screen", because doing that you save battey. Look the gopro's putting huge screens that burn battery instead those old display of the old ones. It's simple and do not waste energy. That was a real test for an E-bike or any bike, that's the way to test the bikes. Nice vid.
That looked really fun. Thanks for taking us along and getting a glimpse of what an electric mountain bike was like . I enjoyed it very much. Thanks again for another great video. Mark from Maryland
To clarify- there is also a button pad on the left grip to cycle through the modes as well. 👍 a display screen is an option for those who prefer it over the discrete indicator. Great video front to back! I loved some of the rocky downhill sections. What trail is this?
You definitely didn't take it easy on that bike! Impressed about how quiet it was and how well it handled. It's a $3600 bike, so it should be pretty nice. I'm surprised they don't have that power adjustment mounted to the handlebar, that would be easy to do and make a lot more sense. PLEASE remove that shipping protective sticker off the power button...it makes my ADD kick in. I know you're not a specs guy, but a suggestion for future reviews is to at least mention a few things about it like fork, rear suspension, brakes, tires, wheels, drivetrain, other features and stuff like that. It helps put what you're doing into perspective for the viewer. Great job Matty!
@@MattyActive Yeah there is no accomplishment in making a section with motor assist..Who would be impressed with an E-Bike in the Tour De france? LOL I enjoy your other videos though. But cool for the ebikers.
@@chrisjones7281 , I think you are missing the point, some people just want to enjoy the trail with a little less effort. I don't know about you but when I ride there is no trophy at the end so the Tour de France comparison feels hallow. While an ebike is not for me, I don't really fault anyone who gets one!
@@juansanchez-tr1dq I haven't missed any point. The Tour De France reference was hyperbole. I ride for fun and sense of accomplishment when I improve. MTBing a great exercise and on certain trails a good challenge as well. You're right, there are some that want to ride without the effort. That is fine. My point is THAT content is not interesting to watch, for ME. It's cool if YOU like that kind of content. I have watched Matty get his first bike and learn how to ride, grow and improve. I find that interesting because I have grown up riding bikes so I didn't learn to ride later in life so see his process is fun from his perspective. Yes, I have friends that have E-Bikes. No I dont like them myself and it's ok to not have the same opinion :)
I’m still torn about e-bikes. I get that they get more people on bikes which is a good thing but can be a bad thing as well. I absolutely hate when a person who isn’t athletic passes me on the trail because they have a motor. It’s scary sometimes to think what it would be like if they ran into me. I just turned 50 in July and I’m certainly not ready to join the e-bike trend just yet. Ask me again 5 years down the road. I do think they are great for skilled riders who just hate to climb but slay the downhills. I can see how it could help someone jump higher with more speed. I jump a bit and I’m talking small kickers and drops but I actually enjoy the pedal and climbing. The “huff and puff” is partly why I ride. I guess there’s a place for e-bikes and situations that they could be appreciated but I’m not on that side of the argument.
I get e-bikes can be fun, but to me, it ain't mountain biking, just like dirt bikes ain't mountain biking. It should be considered a whole different activity/sport.... just like dirt bikes.
But mountain biking was the hard work I needed to get back on track in life...stop hanging out "every" weekend and just had real fun again! I guess what Im saying is I enjoyed working for free on my bike "man's best friend"
I'm missing half my right lung(thank's covid) and I'm on a GG Smash, thinking about swapping to a M20 Rise, just so I can keep up with my buddies to get to the the top of the fire roads here in Oregon.
You went so fast on that trail!!! Not sure if it was the motor or the high quality suspension. But compared to some of your other videos you were riding harder and faster in this one
I like E-bikes despite not wanting one for myself. I do feel kind of disappointed that Orbea decided that the motor controls should be hanging off the front like that instead of on a handlebar control like most are using, even cheaper models. Otherwise it looks like a pretty good ride, I just wouldn't buy one with the controls setup like that.
All of Jeffco trails, State Parks, Floyd Hill, Maryland Mountain allow ebikes. Boulder is not very ebike friendly, yet. Wait till you try an enduro style ebike with 170/160 travel. They are heavy only when you load them in and out of the car. I have Giant Reign E+ and it rides very similar to my Ripmo AF. I do 3-4 runs on Longhorn trail on White ranch on ebike vs 1 run on Ripmo cause Belcher hill.
5:30, wird you have to switch from the thing at the cable. On mine, it has the switched on the left side, looks just like the ones you have there as well. Mine is the Mt. Bromo N7
Dude that’s some of the roughest trail I’ve seen you ride on but made it look like nothing with that Orbea…. Never would have considered an e-MtB as an option but this video, minimally, has me thinking. (Still won’t go ‘e’ but at least has me thinking haha)
sorry, just misleading. It wasn't the Orbea nor the rider that made that rough trail look like nothing. It was motor. It amazes me how people say "Ya, I just did an epic 40 miles + flew through huge rock gardens like it was flat dirt" while riding an e-bike. It was the e-bike that took you 40 miles and allowed you to fly over the rock gardens. @matty you don't need an e-bike. You're already a good rider without one. Keep improving your skills on a regular bike.
I have a Specialized Turbo Levo... I love the thing. It has the same geometry as the Stumpjumper EVO; and I just got one of those recently so I'd have a "real" mountain bike for when I want a real workout. 'Course last weekend, I broke my right scaphoid (bone in the wrist) helping a friend, so now my hand is f'd up and it's gonna take a lot of time and money to get it fixed. Sigh.
Awesome maden voyage on the ebike! It would seem they have you a lower speck model as the mode switch should be on the left side next to the grip between the grip and the break lever. No matter as free is free! I hope you get to keep it for a long time so you can get a really good feel for the bike! Right now I am riding with a healing patellar tendon repair. I couldn't do it on a regular mtb but on my ebike the trail you just rode would be fun, challenging and exciting! Keep up the great work from a 56 year old ebiker!! 👊🏽
Definitely a beast compared to the polygon but that’s because I really need to get a new fork on the polygon. Once I do that I think it will be way more capable
The bike does come with thumb controls for the assistance levels. However there is no screen as Orbea tried keep the e-bike stuff very minimalist. But there is an option to get a screen mounted if wanted.
@@MattyActive Bummer, I was hoping you were going to say they've changed it to allow them! My favorite ride, but old and out of shape, although even when young it would whip my butt, so...
1:20 dude nooooo!? oh no you really thought that this is the way you cycle through the modes😅there are two remote buttons on left side of the handle bar. saw later in the video 5:18 that you really never used them🙈😅
The motor control makes absolutely no sense at all!! What engineer thought this was a good idea and what design manager signed off on this!! That would be the reason y I wouldn't buy it.?
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Backflip transition for every video! Epic!
You might be on to something 🤔
That is the difference between a less expensive bike and higher end bikes, geometry really makes a difference also. I’m not sure why people get hung up on the fact it looks like an ebike, if I’m going to ride my ebike I really don’t care what others think. There is no hiding it is an ebike. By the way, that trail looked sick! Nice job on that one, looks like my kind of trail lol.
Nice. It looked like a great bike regardless of the motor. The trail you were on certainly put it through its paces. I am not going to get an e bike yet but if the trails I goto had extended climbs like these in the video, I would be hard pressed to come up with a reason to not have one. Thanks Matty. Always appreciate your videos.
My next bike will be a E-mountain bike . At 61 years old and hurting every day that’s the way to go. Hey when you coming to Ohio to ride with me ?
Haha hopefully I can get out there in the near future! Any cool trails?
William, Ohio has some great trails. East Rim in the Cleveland area is one of my all time favorites and I have ridden all over the place!
@@MattyActive look up mohican . It’s a ass kicker..lol
@william, so what makes you think an e-bike is the way to go at 61 and hurting everywhere? E-bikes ain't gonna take the burden off but rather give you a false sense of skills cuz it allows you to go beyond what your body is capable of. I don't get this type of mentality. It's like a aging weight lifter who can't do 250lbs bench presses anymore cuz of aching joints or whatever. But somehow they think a motorized machine that'll do half the lifting "allows him" to weight lift again. I sometimes ride with a 73 yo on a regular mtb, still killing it. Ya, he has limits, can't climb too much, too far but he loves and enjoys every minute of what he can do. He has no interest in motorized bikes to allow him to go any further than what his body is capable of. When I get to the point of being incapable of hitting double-blacks and blacks, or doing all day sessions, then that's my limit and I'm gonna respect what my body tells me. I ain't going motorized.
@@MTBr-of-SoCal I understand what you’re saying but places like Mohican in Ohio with a e-bike make it more enjoyable. I’ve done it many times on a pedal bike but much rather do it on a e-bike . I still don’t own a e-mountain bike but have rented them and they are fun and still a work out.
When I lived in AZ my girlfriend rode a e-bike and I had a pedal bike and it was a perfect match and we could ride together.
Congratulations on 12k
Thank you!
If those E-bikes weren't so expensive I would have one, because they are fun no matter what they say. Unlike you, I like the way they don't use a "screen", because doing that you save battey. Look the gopro's putting huge screens that burn battery instead those old display of the old ones. It's simple and do not waste energy. That was a real test for an E-bike or any bike, that's the way to test the bikes. Nice vid.
I cant get how people hate these fun machines so much!😆
yeah I rode a friend's. I get it. I'd love one but my money don't. lol.. one day.
That looked really fun.
Thanks for taking us along and getting a glimpse of what an electric mountain bike was like . I enjoyed it very much. Thanks again for another great video.
Mark from Maryland
To clarify- there is also a button pad on the left grip to cycle through the modes as well. 👍 a display screen is an option for those who prefer it over the discrete indicator. Great video front to back! I loved some of the rocky downhill sections. What trail is this?
idk how I forgot to mention that. Thank you for pointing that out for the people wondering 🤦🏾♂️
That trail looks so sick. I love the chunky downhill.
Nice! I'm with you on the lack of display. For the price tag i would expect a cleaner finish on that bike. Still looked fun though 🔥
You definitely didn't take it easy on that bike! Impressed about how quiet it was and how well it handled. It's a $3600 bike, so it should be pretty nice. I'm surprised they don't have that power adjustment mounted to the handlebar, that would be easy to do and make a lot more sense. PLEASE remove that shipping protective sticker off the power button...it makes my ADD kick in. I know you're not a specs guy, but a suggestion for future reviews is to at least mention a few things about it like fork, rear suspension, brakes, tires, wheels, drivetrain, other features and stuff like that. It helps put what you're doing into perspective for the viewer. Great job Matty!
It's 6600€ in Germany, pretty sure it's not $3600 in US
@@tischtennistucheim yeah, I was looking at another model, $7,400 US. My point is the same, though...
Matti, just for everyone's viewing enjoyment, please make a "do-over" video on the same trail.... but on your Roscoe!
Haha you read my mind
@@MattyActive Yeah there is no accomplishment in making a section with motor assist..Who would be impressed with an E-Bike in the Tour De france? LOL I enjoy your other videos though. But cool for the ebikers.
@@chrisjones7281 , I think you are missing the point, some people just want to enjoy the trail with a little less effort. I don't know about you but when I ride there is no trophy at the end so the Tour de France comparison feels hallow. While an ebike is not for me, I don't really fault anyone who gets one!
@@juansanchez-tr1dq I haven't missed any point. The Tour De France reference was hyperbole. I ride for fun and sense of accomplishment when I improve. MTBing a great exercise and on certain trails a good challenge as well. You're right, there are some that want to ride without the effort. That is fine. My point is THAT content is not interesting to watch, for ME. It's cool if YOU like that kind of content. I have watched Matty get his first bike and learn how to ride, grow and improve. I find that interesting because I have grown up riding bikes so I didn't learn to ride later in life so see his process is fun from his perspective. Yes, I have friends that have E-Bikes. No I dont like them myself and it's ok to not have the same opinion :)
What a trail man! I always love to watch your video's
I’m still torn about e-bikes. I get that they get more people on bikes which is a good thing but can be a bad thing as well. I absolutely hate when a person who isn’t athletic passes me on the trail because they have a motor. It’s scary sometimes to think what it would be like if they ran into me. I just turned 50 in July and I’m certainly not ready to join the e-bike trend just yet. Ask me again 5 years down the road. I do think they are great for skilled riders who just hate to climb but slay the downhills. I can see how it could help someone jump higher with more speed. I jump a bit and I’m talking small kickers and drops but I actually enjoy the pedal and climbing. The “huff and puff” is partly why I ride. I guess there’s a place for e-bikes and situations that they could be appreciated but I’m not on that side of the argument.
I get e-bikes can be fun, but to me, it ain't mountain biking, just like dirt bikes ain't mountain biking. It should be considered a whole different activity/sport.... just like dirt bikes.
But mountain biking was the hard work I needed to get back on track in life...stop hanging out "every" weekend and just had real fun again!
I guess what Im saying is I enjoyed working for free on my bike "man's best friend"
Awesome vid man, not a fan of e-bikes but this was cool, you're an amazing rider bro... nuff respect from London.
Nice ride. You killed that down hill technical.
I'm missing half my right lung(thank's covid) and I'm on a GG Smash, thinking about swapping to a M20 Rise, just so I can keep up with my buddies to get to the the top of the fire roads here in Oregon.
I prefer the Trek e Fuel power indicator and control. Ebike is great, I hate climbing.
My man, i just got an Orbea Occam and am loving it
We backflipping teleporting in to trails now 🤙🏾💪🏾 Dope trail, nice ride 💪🏾💯
You went so fast on that trail!!! Not sure if it was the motor or the high quality suspension. But compared to some of your other videos you were riding harder and faster in this one
Dang Matty you really put that bike to the test with that trail, nice ride.
Might as well make it worth it!
Awesome content! Ebikes are so much fun!
I like E-bikes despite not wanting one for myself. I do feel kind of disappointed that Orbea decided that the motor controls should be hanging off the front like that instead of on a handlebar control like most are using, even cheaper models. Otherwise it looks like a pretty good ride, I just wouldn't buy one with the controls setup like that.
That's a bad accident waiting to happen . How on earth did that pass Safety QC.
There are thumb controls on the left side of the handlebar, it seems matty must have missed them.
@@NerdCamelJoe IS there a bar top sign of what mode it is in or a battery indicator as well?
All of Jeffco trails, State Parks, Floyd Hill, Maryland Mountain allow ebikes. Boulder is not very ebike friendly, yet. Wait till you try an enduro style ebike with 170/160 travel. They are heavy only when you load them in and out of the car. I have Giant Reign E+ and it rides very similar to my Ripmo AF. I do 3-4 runs on Longhorn trail on White ranch on ebike vs 1 run on Ripmo cause Belcher hill.
That crazy🔥🤘🏽 e bike are a 50/50 for me
I love my emtb, I've also got an acoustic mtb which I also love, but I get a lot more rides in on the eeb 😜
5:30, wird you have to switch from the thing at the cable.
On mine, it has the switched on the left side, looks just like the ones you have there as well. Mine is the Mt. Bromo N7
Thanks for content .
Ebikes 🤦♂️but I think after your review of it my perspective actually changed a little.
Dude that’s some of the roughest trail I’ve seen you ride on but made it look like nothing with that Orbea…. Never would have considered an e-MtB as an option but this video, minimally, has me thinking. (Still won’t go ‘e’ but at least has me thinking haha)
sorry, just misleading. It wasn't the Orbea nor the rider that made that rough trail look like nothing. It was motor. It amazes me how people say "Ya, I just did an epic 40 miles + flew through huge rock gardens like it was flat dirt" while riding an e-bike. It was the e-bike that took you 40 miles and allowed you to fly over the rock gardens.
@matty you don't need an e-bike. You're already a good rider without one. Keep improving your skills on a regular bike.
I have a Specialized Turbo Levo... I love the thing. It has the same geometry as the Stumpjumper EVO; and I just got one of those recently so I'd have a "real" mountain bike for when I want a real workout. 'Course last weekend, I broke my right scaphoid (bone in the wrist) helping a friend, so now my hand is f'd up and it's gonna take a lot of time and money to get it fixed. Sigh.
Awesome maden voyage on the ebike! It would seem they have you a lower speck model as the mode switch should be on the left side next to the grip between the grip and the break lever. No matter as free is free! I hope you get to keep it for a long time so you can get a really good feel for the bike! Right now I am riding with a healing patellar tendon repair. I couldn't do it on a regular mtb but on my ebike the trail you just rode would be fun, challenging and exciting! Keep up the great work from a 56 year old ebiker!! 👊🏽
It really looks like a nice bike, not sure about that interface though.
Why are you not using the controller on the left side handlebar to change assist modes??
I honestly forgot those controls were there
Maybe when Im 8n my 90s...🎉
Awesome content what air pressure are you running in these videos ?
24 front 26 rear
@@MattyActive yea I tried that on my roscoe 8 and felt the back end pop up a little to much on trails with large roots maybe I could try lower 🤷
But how does it compare to the Polygon?
Definitely a beast compared to the polygon but that’s because I really need to get a new fork on the polygon. Once I do that I think it will be way more capable
Not my thing at least right now anyway. I'm not a hater though. These are awesome rigs.
I prefer my Roscoe honestly. I’ll go more in depth in tomorrows video about what I think.
they must have cut costs by not providing the screen and thumb controls
I was thinking the same thing
The bike does come with thumb controls for the assistance levels. However there is no screen as Orbea tried keep the e-bike stuff very minimalist. But there is an option to get a screen mounted if wanted.
Isn't Hall a non-ebike trail?
Yep, I didn’t realize it until after my ride 🤦🏾♂️
@@MattyActive Bummer, I was hoping you were going to say they've changed it to allow them! My favorite ride, but old and out of shape, although even when young it would whip my butt, so...
Haha!! Cool intro
1:20 dude nooooo!? oh no you really thought that this is the way you cycle through the modes😅there are two remote buttons on left side of the handle bar. saw later in the video 5:18 that you really never used them🙈😅
Nice 👍🏾
Stay pure and just pedal I've lost all respect for E bike riders you would have more smile on your face at the end on the Marlin 6
40lb is very light
You’re riding that ebike where it’s not allowed. Good thing it’s inconspicuous. ;)
I wondered about that. I didn’t think Boulder allowed eebs 🤔
The motor control makes absolutely no sense at all!! What engineer thought this was a good idea and what design manager signed off on this!! That would be the reason y I wouldn't buy it.?
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