I found this story interesting because it shows adversaries working towards the same goal and the massive difference in understanding between the two sides. I think it's kind of an uncomfortable moment in history to look at but I can't help but feeling like its important to remember cooperation is possible. With all the talk of total war we rarely stop to think of times where under the right circumstances war is avoided. If you're interested, check out my new video on the North Korea and Russia Alliance: th-cam.com/video/8EzuxeIQP14/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qN24oiRpNHI1BYza
And what's the point exactly? Adversaries around the world going on jolly cooperation right now to subjugate Ukraine. To everyone's entertainment. Is it the right time to picture ""adversaries"" as acthually "nice and cooperative" people?
If you think that is strange, go lookup the Battle of Mosul. USA, UK, France, Turkey, Kurdistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan & Hezbollah all on the same side against ISIS.
Because the truth is, politicians hide in their offices and decide who will k*ll whom. For their interests. They are the ones who want more d**ths. None of them want a peaceful coexistence. Almost any conflict of our time could be resolved by diplomacy but we all see what happening today. (Thanks TH-cam, I know that this is a free platform and that’s why there is censorship***)
The truth is, politicians hide in their offices and decide who will k*// whom. They want all these things and de#@$ for their own interests. Almost every military conflict could've be solved by diplomacy. But we all see what happening today.
@@bluecaptainITI wish you would never feel, how painful the 90th were for Russia. I can really agree, that our countries should never be enemies, but 90th in our country was really hard time
@@daniilnazarov6796 my apologies for my ignorance. Let me rephrase to: Wish we could all experience the same joy and peace as the West experienced in the 90s.
I worked in Kosovo as a UNMIK police officer. The Russians protected the airport. We would have to pass their checkpoint sometimes. The Russians would stop an entire French convoy to allow us to pass. We would bring them fresh bread and they were very friendly to us Americans then. Always wanting to chat. Good times.
There is a phenomenal lecture by a French Russian Journalist (Vladimir Pozner) who worked at Pravda(The Soviet propaganda outlet), about how dangerous the hostile sentiments of the 21st century are. In his own words the Russians were "Anti United States, Anti NATO, but never Anti American" and it is rather terrifying that that sentiment is flipping, on both sides.
I was a bosniak kid & I loved running after your convoys !!! I was screaming "Hello Guten Tag" and waving like an idiot. US soldiers always gave me biscuits/chocolate and they even showed me their vehicles once lol. I wonder if they ever got scared when they saw me running towards their convoy by surprise lol.
@@adisproject Nah,this was way before OIF/OEF and the mass use of IEDs.. Those convoys were called "Driving around Bosnia" or DAB and when that was tried in 2003/4 in Iraq with non uparmored veichles that lesson was learned the hard way I'm afraid.
Let's not forget that the pristina airport incident happened because NATO renegged on their agreement with Russia, and the British paratroopers, showing up to the airport (which was allocated to Russia) refused an order from higher command to shoot the Russians. The para commander commented "I'm not going to start world war 3 for you" and hung up on NATO command.
Para commander was Michel Rose,ex SAS who participated in operation Nimrod,and the NATO command was Wesley Clark,a guy that now owns a mining company in Kosovo
US and Russians are the best frienemies ever. If you played online video games, you have a crazy Russian homie......well, maybe had. RIP for all the fallen Rainbow six seige homies I didn't understand, but they always invited me.
@@frakismaximus3052 Russia never stopped conscripting, so anything is possible. Perhaps they're running bot farms to spread misinformation? Perhaps they're feeding Ukrainian crops?
Im honestly surprised there hasnt been any videogames or mainstream movies based around these events. This is probably one of the most interesting events in recent history.
@@nenadrajic9740 shame on every serb who support war crimes and how can a serb be patriotic guy when you have always do is massacres and rape and all kinds of terrible things. Even the song from your serbs is disgusting like my father is a war criminal. Well im talking about the majority of serbs but are you one of them?
@@nenadrajic9740 serbs like saying i hate the USA cause of 1999. Why did you kill people in Croatia/Bosnia/Kosovo? Shame on every serb who support war crimes and how can a serb be proud of their country and be patriotic, when you have do is massacres and rapes and all kinds of terrible things that. YOU SERBS ARE DISGUSTING even the music you have: MY FATHER IS A WAR CRIMINAL AND YOU CAN'T BRING HIM IN COURT and the younger generations like denying that their country did all kinds of terrible war crimes and be patriotic like patriotic and trying justify evil. That's the majority of the serbs are you one of them?
Я бывший военнослужащий армии России. Мне приятно читать комментарии людей, которые уважают простых солдат, и знают, что политика делает из нас врагов. Мы знаем, что вы сильны. Вы знаете, что сильны мы. Пусть этих знаний нам будет достаточно.
Простые люди в США больше уважают Россию матушку больше , чем множество россиян 😢 Они ТУТ без Корней , говорят Mother Russia ( мама Россия ) , в то время как много русских говорит " рашка " 😢
I was US Army and trained as a Russian translator and interpreter (not the same!) during the cold war & shortly afterwards. Got to spend lots of time in Russia from the west all the way as far east as you can get. Met tons of Russians from all walks of life and being able to speak Russian I got to meet & get to know lots of people and go places foreigners usually never do. All I can say is it's a damn fucking shame the US & Russia aren't allies. We had a small window of opportunity but politicians wouldn't have it. Oh well.
I agree. I've only been to Russia a few times, but I loved it there and am quite impressed with the people. Also, my wife is a Russian interpreter, my dad was a German translator, you're right, the two are NOT interchangeable terms, though most people seem to think they are. I'm more of less monolingual English though, with a embarrassingly little Russian and Spanish.
@@thekinginyellow1744Not exactly. Translator is written documents, and almost always in one direction. My dad did not and could not translate English into German, only German to English. Interpreter is spoken word, real time in both directions. My wife does not and cannot translate, but she interprets back and forth between Russian and English. One is not really deeper than the other, they are just separate skills. Translators shoot for the highest precision on legal documents often requiring lots of research, while interpreters think on their feet.
@@KentoLeoDragon I dont think there was opportunity ever. its not about good feelings between people. its about geopolitical issues that will never end. they just have very different goals. Russia would never share power with USA being on top anyway. and if there is a team, there is a leader always. and it wouldnt be Russia. their egos wouldn't let it slide.
True true reality is a sad fate that and Russian soldiers who take the orders and with each step by the commanders words and politicians intentions leads to more conflict in another life we are close but now things are tense
@@Channel-23s american soldiers do the same thing and have ruined many countries around the world. why do you speak as if this is exclusive to russia? two wrongs don't make a right but painting a picture with ill intent is just as bad
@@rzt430 When did I say American soldiers never went to war or that Russia is the only one that does it or speak like it as I mentioned like the comment does how soldiers must obey orders that lead to conflict even rn that’s happening but America isn’t at war rn . Russian soldiers are a lot less disciplined then American soldiers but if we talk about who’s worst definitely Russia who held half of Europe hostage/occupied before collapsing in 1991 after the Cold War or Stalin who also was incredibly horrible both to Russians but also Ukrainians who invaded more of its neighbors past or present and rn throw threats to nuke EU and America, who’s lost more troops in 2-3 years of war then America has the past 65-75 years combined and as for America ruining countries I’m going to call false as American soldiers have been apart of more situations helping out then ruining countries you’d have a better case arguing CIA which Americans hate too kinda like KGB seems you’re against the reality of the Russia being called out when it’s basic logic by how it’s going 1M Russian soldiers will have been taken out or injured in a couple years two wrongs don’t make a right but abandoning Ukraine will make things worst and the underdog certainly looks a lot better then the side with a dictatorship right now and in the past as calling out a wrong or showing a right vs a wrong is not bad at all I was never painting a picture with ill intent you did by acting as if ignoring the truth is better, let’s not paint a picture of peace that’s ill intent is just worst and bad faith. (I’m guessing ya didn’t see my last part which was talking about in another life we’re allies or that the meaning of the comment of them forced to go because of others Will into a Meat Grinder although some do so knowing the risk or want to this is the 2nd invasion,to think showing facts are “painting a picture with ill intent” can’t be farther from the case either making incorrect assumptions or you’re angered by a single mention of Russia both are not rational options but this aggression towards Ukraine is definitely exclusive to Russia directly doing so others might be supporting but nowhere near as involved)
@@Channel-23s i am literally from one such country that america has ruined for its own economic and political benefit. it's obvious that you grew up with american propaganda. use your own damn eyes, google is not a substitute for life experience. there has never been a point in history where america is not at war. a proxy war is still a war, it's just semantics. i do not hate america but your ignorance and arrogance sure makes me want to
For years, Russia state media has considered 'the west' led by america as their biggest enemy. Since Feb 2022, it has gotten worse, and they have shown maps of how they could bomb us and claim they should just nuke everyone.
Fun Fact: American Special Forces and Russian Spetznaz have actually worked together in a joint operation before. Task & Purpose has a really good video on it.
Great to see a civil convo... Thats why internet sucks, or peoples skill to communicate in more intricate forms, such as written speech, symbols and pictures, sucks. I bet if you were to meet in a park, you'd find yourself some rakija and even it out with a good old wrestling or other test of strength....
Fun fact, "Spetznaz" is literally means "Special Forces" from russian. You could just say "Russian and American special forces" Cause it sound strange for those people who speak Russian.
The 2000's were such a vibe. Sure there were conflicts, but the Berlin wall was down. China was looking moderate. Putin was still friendly to the west. I seemed like "Peace in our time" would be achievable. But the Rwandan Genocide should have been the writing on the wall. That our optimism was about to be checked real hard. And it was.
The Partnership for Peace came about a few years before and there genuinely could have been peace in Europe between NATO members, former Warsaw Pact nations and Russia. The problems started when Russia destroyed Chechnya in its attempts to quell insurgencies there, along with starting small border wars with former Soviet neighbors.
China was painting the US as its primary enemy domestically even back then. The US government thanks to the language barrier and only seeing dollar signs ignored it. Plus back then they had plenty of foreigners to use as a scape goat for the parties incompetence.
There are most likely many other past accounts both known and unknown in military history where enemies from different sides for whatever mutual reasons temporally have to band together.
As a Serb, there always was a collision of two worlds in our country. We could never actually pick between west and east, because we were usually allied with both, untill the 90s... Even today, after the bombing by the NATO people are bit more tilted towards russia, but still very divided.
As a former US Army cav scout here still have my 2 KFOR badges from 2001. As a regular army soldier at Camp McGovern I got to meet regulars (non-special forces soldiers) from the Russian army. Some of the dudes were pretty cool. One of my buddies traded his cold weather cap for a Russian cold weather cap. Those were the best and scariest 8 months of my military career.
How active were things then? I've heard stories about landmines scattered all over, but was there shooting/sniping/active aggression from local factions?
Bro, I dig your shit. As an infantry vet, you’re my fav vet owned channel and my favorite news channel, period. You really don’t let any bias through on ANY subject. Thanks
This is nothing out of the ordinary. The United States had a joint operation with the Soviets post WW11 operation fish bowl. They also work very closely in space and Russia has always welcomed astronauts to stay at their large space stations. O yeah and that one time they teamed up at the UN charter against the Israelis, the British and French empire during the Suez Canal crisis in order to protect Egypt.
"We can avert war between our nations. Just two of us. No politicians, no money changing hands. Just two soldiers speaking the truth." Dima Mayakovski - Battlefield 3
@@AdmiralPrestonJColeTheGigaChad videogames are indeed stupid lmao. Only a small handful has anything meaningful going for them, and Battlefield series are not one of them. Its just a fast food junk
@@AmelpsXett And besides....people play video games for a variety of reasons and "fun" is the most common element in all of it.Battlefield games are "fun",yes but are they meaningful or realistic?... absolutely freaking not! but who tf cares anyway? we're trying to have fun.The same goes for every other game regardless of types or categories.
@@AdmiralPrestonJColeTheGigaChad its ok to play games for fun, i wasnt denying that. But its clear that games corrupt weak minds. You immediately got into a defensive posture to defend your addiction, even though i was pointing at a guy using a dumb quote from a dumb game to comment on a real situation to further the escapism.
@@AmelpsXett It's funny hearing you say it now that games should be played for fun while your previous reply to this supposedly "dumb" comment was "stop playing video games...it rots your brain aah!"😂
I was in Kosovo 2001-2002 Task Force Falcon. Being around and working with the Russians was surreal. Those I worked with we would all agree how it sucked the next time we would assuredly be on opposite side's again. Trading Sony anti skip CD player's for those fluffy Russian jackets was great.
My unit deployed to kosovo month in Jan 2003. The line company that we supported was patrolling the serbian border and we would resupply them at this coldesac village at the base of the hillside. On one particular occasion while waiting on the line company to show up in their SUSV this russian convoy had arrived at our location. They had dismounted from their vehicles and started gesturing about trading. I guess our Leatherman multi tools were what they were mostly after. Most of the the russian service members were offering their pin on insignia for us service members Leathermans. When this junior sergeant approached me he gestured towards my Leatherman for his insignia. I didn't care that much for the pin on stuff and then he pulled at his cold weather jacket as an offer for my Leatherman. I accepted and he took the jacket off his back for trade for my Leatherman. I still have that thing hanging in my closet today.
Russia asked to join NATO in the early 2000s. They thought that the West is a friend now. But was declined. On the other side all countries across the Russian borders are very welcome to join. NATO all these years didn't stop to go closer and closer. What should Russian think about it?
True , I remember this happening ,Heard Recently It was one of Tony Blairs Regrets ,that he often wonders what IF, Putin Saying he would Only Make this Offer Once, Saying lets end this for good, and was very upset after being declined, hurt and his attitude changed after this moment ,I also wonder what IF, suspect, no i feel it in my Gut ,that this Really was a missed chance to bring more peace to this world.
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey
@@TempoMontages yeah but the State department was working overtime back then to make sure the good times with Russia didn't last. For more details i'd recommend listening to Jeffery Sachs, he explains it all in great detail.
ah yes. and then the US spent the next 30 years ignoring russian/french/chinese vetos, and attacked most of the old soviets allies in the middle east, ripped up all the nuclear weapons deals kept moving military closer and closer to them and voewed to never accept what they had done in serbia about the island that features Russias most important military port
не только сша вели себя неподобающе. Россия тоже могла бы и не нападать на грузию в 2008, а так же не оккупироваить крым, донбасс и другие регионы украины в 2014
@@user-ruraruparu yes and no. the situation in georgia is kind of stupid. even the EU report finds that sakashvili thought he was already in nato and imediately ordered the attack of russian troops in ossetia/abkazia the problem for him was that in the meantime the germans and french had vetod georgia in nato. as for the others. speaking as someone from a small country, and who understands very well how unfair large power geopolitics can be: I don;t think Russia could/can allow the US to cut them off from the black sea/sevastopol. they are easily willing to start ww3 over that issue. as would the US in the reverse situation, or china if the US tries to install bases 200km from shanghei. for the donbas I agree.
@@catadoxas в любом случае надеюсь что в ближейшее время и россия и сша просто начнут работать вместе, что бы сделать мир безопаснее (хотя это можно отнести к рязряду "сказочные мечты")
Possibly the only time they worked together directly, but russia and the US were together in the whole War on Terror thing in the 2000s. Both countries supported each other and shared intel when fighting terrorists (Al Qaeda in case of the US and the Chechen/Dagestani rebels in russia).
Funny thing is, the US warned Putin about the Moscow terrorist attack a couple months before then a couple days before. Putin went on national TV and mocked the US and the West. Then when the attack happened, turned around and blamed the US and Ukraine for the attack. Lol. The US intelligence does not play games and no matter who might get attacked, they'll give information. Always have.
Their intelligence communities have backchannel dialogues. Probably much fewer of them now, though. That's one reason the US was so confused when those Wagner schmucks decided to attack a US outpost in Syria. "Really? You don't have anyone attacking US targets in Syria? Then who are these guys in Mockba's shooting RPG's at us? Okay, if you say they aren't yours then you wont mind us obliterating them." The disproportionate response in fending off that attack was a deliberate bit of posturing meant to reinforce the importance of those backchannels.
As an American-Yugoslavian. This was awesome. No biased opinions but the factual events that took place. One of the many reasons i keep subbed to task & purpose
Saying that Yugoslavia was carrying out an ethnic cleansing is not a fact, it's a straight up a lie used to justify the attack. In reality US strikes killed more albanian civilians than Yugoslav police/military did.
Don't people sense strong cognitive dissonance ? US supported the same forces in Kosovo. And then when they gave a country to those terrorists they built a base in there and stopped supporting the same forces in South Serbia and North Macedonia. Serbia also runed several operation to get rid of this groups.
During the American Revolution, a captured American officer, Daniel Morgan was allowed to demonstrate his marksmanship skills for English nobility. They were impressed and asked how his skills compared with other American rebels. Morgan replied that every American could shoot that good. So… “average (American ) infantryman.”
I was a 11B in the 101st Airborne Infantry, 1st Brigade, 1/327th Infantry Regiment. When I went through Boot Camp and AIT at Benning I was in Bravo 2/54.
Damn... the way the russian asked about using nukes kinda got to me... never thought about it like that... shows how important it is to speak to each other, while wearing your heart on your sleve. Luv from germany!... hope yall are well!
Exactly and that's one of the things here in America causing issues is political wise nobody is willing to sit with someone with a differing opinion to try to understand them. Its turned into a team sport where facts don't factor in at all.
When your choices are so bad that you manage to make the greatest arch enemies team up briefly just to get rid of you. But honestly. The story of the speznas, the green barets and the serbians drinking alcohol together strikes me similarly to the christmas truce of 1914. Deep down we know it's not the countries that are enemies but the polititians that are enemies to all.
Cappy, I was an Air Force brat during the 80s including on a Strategic Air Command base (Carswell AFB) and yes we did think the USSR would nuke us without warning in a first strike. I can’t tell you the number of times alerts happened both at Carswell and at Altus AFB where my uncle a KC-135 pilot was scrambled and called away or had to stay at the alert shack because the Defcon was raised. Maybe the Green Berets didn’t feel that threat because they were in the Army and simply never got those alerts but those in Air Force community certainly did, especially those who lived on or near SAC bases that were in the top target list. The base would go into lockdown and it was scary. P.S. As an Army guy you may wonder why a tanker pilot would go on alert, it had to do with getting assets airborne to refuel bombers both in-bound to their Soviet targets and also hopefully for their return.
It is unfortunate that US and Russia are considered 'enemies' of each other right now. They would make a powerful and amazing force if they were allied.
Ok, but a powerful force against who? Each side has its own interests and partners/allies. It is hard to imagine how they joining forces would help any of them. I can think of this scenario materializing in the case of an alien invasion, or more generally, to help improve the world. Reduce poverty, advance humanity knowledge on sciences. Have you imagined Russian and American scientists working together to advance space exploration? Or human health? That would be truly amazing.
Russia was powerful in the Cold War but Americans actually don't want powerful allies diluting their leadership (hence why they ally with small token countries instead).
Unstoppable. The alliance would be considered 'overpowered'. Might even feel like an anime character. China wouldn't dare do anything over Asia-Pacific with such an alliance. Too bad we are enemies, again.
Ever since Tito died, Yugoslavia has never been its communist self. When I went through intelligence school back in 1999 it was based upon vintage cold war/gulf War era principles. It is very similar to neer peer warfare. Change is the only constant It seems. Interesting story Chris. The way you tell the story makes me want to purchase the book myself! I really like how you have began to venture into geopolitics. I have been interested in geopolitics since I was taught to love the subject in the Army.
@@Cthulhuwarlord you found out the full name. good for you. now, if only you lived in that country, and say SSSR, or Hungary, or Romania, or Bulgaria or Albania (all neighbors), at the same time, you would have actually noticed a huge difference, in almost every possible way you can imagine. One of the reasons Albanians defected in large numbers and settled in Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija. Hungarians did the same, Romanians and Bulgarians in much lesser numbers. It was a different, decent, good society with perspective. And if only you knew what you are talking about, you would have never used the word "communist"
@@dodic8574 He wasn't using "communist" negatively. Everyone with a brain knows that Tito was the greatest leader that Yugoslavia ever had. It's not even close. What he probably means is "ever since Tito died, the spirit of Yugoslavia died". It became stagnant and then a faction of Serbian imperialists took the principle of 'Brotherhood and Unity' and threw it into the garbage.
I heard a similar view from my Russian instructor, that Russian expected American to nuke them at some point. Same reason too, that they nuked Japan so why not?
They seriously couldn’t see the difference between the two situations? Total war with a state which is attempting to take over the Pacific, versus defending borders? 🙄
@@TesterAnimal1 I don't think so. That was before the invasion. Decades ago. They were even buddy with Ukraine back then, I think. But as a matric user who drive on the left, I don't think your point make that much sense to me. The fact that you molest a child while drunk surely certainly absolutely make me cautious while you're in priest uniform. Yes, the situations are different, but all three crime factors are there. You have intention, ability, and opportunity to do so, and more than a criminal, also a history doing it. Ps. The **you** in my example is a placrholder for someone, not as 2nd pronoun. I don't assume your pronoun. Have a nice day.
@@jarnMod Mate we are still sorta buddies with ukraine, its more of a fucking civilian war :( The amount of betrayal on both sides is cosmic, lots of russians side with ukraine, lots of ukrainians side with Russia, lots of neutral people on both sides. Essentially its two oppressive and corrupt governments fighting. One of the governments probably a lot worse than the another though :(
How do they think this. The only reason we nuked Japan was cause the war had been going on for several years and we knew an invasion of the Japanese home isles would cost millions of lives on both sides. Both bombs killed a fraction of the amount of people that would’ve otherwise died had we landed
This is an awesome war story. I recall in 1989 that word came down that we were no longer to refer in training to the Soviet Union as our enemy, but simply “threat forces.”
In the early 90s edition of FM 90-10-1 (the MOUT manual) there is a section on shot placement and the target illustration is of an East German soldier.
@@cutemedkit6128I tvoja patetična propaganda.Čovek je lepo objasnio ko je napao Ruse i Amerikance.I sa kim su pili rakiju.Mi te dočekamo kao najrođenijeg a ti optužuješ za genocid.Srbi su saveznici Rusa i Amerikanaca u oba svetska rata.Srbi su spasili preko 500 savezničkih pilota tokom drugog svetskog rata u operaciji HALIARD.Cela sela su pobijena od strane Nemaca , jer niko nije hteo da izda skrovišta gde su sakrivani piloti.Potomci tih junaka nisu napravili nikakav genocid na Kosovu.I zapamti : Potomak tog terotiste bi opet pucao na Amerikance i Ruse da mu se ukaze prilika.A Srbin bi ti sipao rakiju i druzio se Amerikancima i Rusima.
Great video, please make more with this in-depth format explaining the historical order of effect that has brought us to the geopolitical situation we are in now.
As a veteran of the Kosovo war, thank you for covering a story from that unique time. Many people back here the states did not know about US forces involvement in Bosnia and coastal in the 90s. After Somalia, nobody wanted to know anything about the military until 911.
Great description of the Bosnian/Kosovo conflict! I'm living in Montenegro, and yours was the clearest description I've heard. By the way: Rakija is pronounced: ROK ee ya. It's easier than it looks.
they were definitely spetsnaz GRU, 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade to be more exact. its the VDV's Special Operations Unit (similar to the 75th Rangers RRC) that is a suboordinate of the GRU
@@vukberbakov344 Yes the 45th Spetsnaz is organic to the VDV and like mentioned above is similar in role to the 75th rangers as in an elite expeditionary light infantry unit
My father-in-law went on a "training exercise" with Spetsnaz back in the eighties. A former coworker of mine was part of an exchange with the Soviet Military as a member of the West German Bundeswehr. It is more common than you might think, and not often talked about.
I like the fact that he acknowledges, what he saw, may not have been how it appeared. Sounds like he had a very good understanding how the Russians could have purposefully sort out combat.
Makes you think. If we could all just get together and talk as people, then maybe we could get along. If politicians call for military action, they should be leading the way in-person.
@@yourbadger5486 What do think wars are caused by? War is part of humanity's makeup. If conversation was all it took, there would be only State Departments/Foreign ministries, not Defense Departments/War ministries, too.
@@Taskandpurposeplease do a video on how the US and western allies almost invaded/bombed India in the Indo-Pak war in 1971 and how the USSR was the one who prevented that by putting its nuclear subs between them. Not many people know about it and my family talks about how it was a very tense and scary time. It also can give clarity on India's geopolitical stance
@@Taskandpurposeplease do one episode on Yunus-bel Yevkurov and his recon team clearing and taking control of the Slatina airport. It was portrayed in the movie “Balkan frontier” or something. They alone cleared area from Albanian terrorists and waited for arrival of Russian KFOR.
@@Taskandpurposeif I may; I would suggest highlighting Stillwell and Chiang's relationship and how that damaged relations to this day. And I mean this was personal between the two. Stillwell wrote a dis poem and everything.
@@ryankline1164 Thank you for pointing out this. Stillwell ruined the US-Sino relationship during WW2, unlike the other American generals, Stillwell did not respect the Chinese leader.
Again, I am coming away from one of your videos feeling SO much more informed! Is THIS stuff all that do? I mean, your output is that of a FULL TIME JOB! Anyway...GREAT STUFF man...WELL DONE!
Depends on how an "invasion" happened. If aliens landed and said "Hey, North Korea, we'll give you rayguns and help you conquer the planet in our name!", it would probably take the Norks about 5 seconds to decide to betray humanity.
These kinds of moments where "enemies" are able to put aside their differences and make peace, not on a political but a human level, will always be my favorite moments in history
I Listened beginning to end. You prepared and told a terrific story. I thoroughly enjoyed its insight, intelligence and outcome. Info that I had not heard reported or read. Thank you Task and Purpose. JAL
This is fascinating and very telling. It reveals to me how limited I am in that I was aware of this conflict at the time but only on a very superficial level. Makes me wonder how very superficial my understanding of what's going on in the world right now. Great episode. Thank you for all your hard work.
I've heard variations of this all my life, said as if it were true....and it is, between INDIVIDUALS. Once you get people together in big groups and form tribes, the whole calculus changes.
@@adambrande I privately nickname this phenomenon "Bull Run Fever". It happens when a nation has a aggressive/expansionist/glory-in-war attitude and has gone more than a generation without a serious conflict to temper their expectations. Men will enlist in droves because they are afraid they'll MISS the war, and 100% sure it will all be over in the first battle...In victory, of course. The Chinese are probably thinking this way right now...
Want to give flowers where they're earned. When first coming across your channel, it didn't seem very serious, a bit click baity, The new tone has a lot more depth, well done and thank you!
@@greyfells2829 Russia is crumbling once again, though. In the aftermath of the Ukraine War, Russia's image is tainted beyond repair for decades to come, I'm sure.
Fascinating, thank you. It’s rare that a soldier has the opportunity to see that the individual painted in their mind as their sworn enemy is in many ways a simple reflection of their own selves.
One thing this teaches us, is regular soldiers and booze leads to peace and friendship. Booze makes friends At one time, there was a good chance for better US-Russia relations, that after 9/11 Putin offered Russia's full help in Afghanistan, including troops, but Bush turned them down. There was a period when post Cold War, many in Russia wanted to move closer with the US, however things changed and Russia became more hardline. Putin, while anti-US, was open to better relations to further Russia's global post Soviet ambitions. Though there was a pro-Russia joining NATO movement that collapsed in the mid 2000s that had as much as 20% of the vote.
It’s a fair point, it’s really the politicians who are really responsible. For example a mate of mine went to the Western Sahara on a UN mission & he drove around a Russian major & had previously spent time is Afghanistan, so had practical knowledge of land mines which apparently possibly saved my mates life! This is at a time the Australian army was moving from Vietnam era training to training more suitable for actions in our country. Cheers. Great video!
I’m totally convinced that if we got to know the average Russian or Chinese citizen, we’d realize we are all the same and this video only makes me think that more. It’s only the politicians that divide us.
@@KolyaUrtzaverage Chinese citizen in China is still a fairly normal person and are extremely nice and welcoming. They differ in their cultural norms, but other than politics, they are just like the rest of us. Now... Average Chinese tourist you find anywhere in the world is like a cancer, worse than the stigma US tourists used to get when traveling (minus a lot of boomer tourists, they're still the worst of all).
I found this story interesting because it shows adversaries working towards the same goal and the massive difference in understanding between the two sides. I think it's kind of an uncomfortable moment in history to look at but I can't help but feeling like its important to remember cooperation is possible. With all the talk of total war we rarely stop to think of times where under the right circumstances war is avoided.
If you're interested, check out my new video on the North Korea and Russia Alliance: th-cam.com/video/8EzuxeIQP14/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qN24oiRpNHI1BYza
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Great video
And what's the point exactly? Adversaries around the world going on jolly cooperation right now to subjugate Ukraine. To everyone's entertainment. Is it the right time to picture ""adversaries"" as acthually "nice and cooperative" people?
@Devin_Laugherin You obviously missed the point.
If you think that is strange, go lookup the Battle of Mosul.
USA, UK, France, Turkey, Kurdistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan & Hezbollah all on the same side against ISIS.
"How much they hated the politicians" a group of 3 x different militaries agreeing on one thing.
😂😂 don't we all, most of us anyway
Because the truth is, politicians hide in their offices and decide who will k*ll whom. For their interests. They are the ones who want more d**ths.
None of them want a peaceful coexistence.
Almost any conflict of our time could be resolved by diplomacy but we all see what happening today.
(Thanks TH-cam, I know that this is a free platform and that’s why there is censorship***)
The truth is, politicians hide in their offices and decide who will k*// whom. They want all these things and de#@$ for their own interests. Almost every military conflict could've be solved by diplomacy.
But we all see what happening today.
🙅🏼♀️ now, come on guys, I mean, consider
*Gun Arming Noises Intensify*
🤷🏼♀️🙇🏼♀️ ok aight nvm fam back to being quiet
russians are allowed to hate only forigen politics
"We can avert war between our nations. Just two of us, no money changing hands. Just soldiers speaking the truth."
BF3 or....
Dima and Blackburn ❤
@@boris001000pipe through chest man says it
Video game / movie logic, never happened once in the history of humanity. 🤣
I just bought and played through the singleplayer campaign after years of watching it on TH-cam. I recommend, it's like $5 on steam right now.
I sure wish we all could be friends .
мы можем! Но к сожалению пока что только в интернете
@@user-ruraruparu Peace and love, my friend!
I hope we can return to the joyful times in the 90s, where we were brothers under different flags.
@@bluecaptainITI wish you would never feel, how painful the 90th were for Russia. I can really agree, that our countries should never be enemies, but 90th in our country was really hard time
@@daniilnazarov6796 my apologies for my ignorance.
Let me rephrase to: Wish we could all experience the same joy and peace as the West experienced in the 90s.
@@bluecaptainIT fair enough, bro
I worked in Kosovo as a UNMIK police officer. The Russians protected the airport. We would have to pass their checkpoint sometimes. The Russians would stop an entire French convoy to allow us to pass. We would bring them fresh bread and they were very friendly to us Americans then. Always wanting to chat. Good times.
There is a phenomenal lecture by a French Russian Journalist (Vladimir Pozner) who worked at Pravda(The Soviet propaganda outlet), about how dangerous the hostile sentiments of the 21st century are. In his own words the Russians were "Anti United States, Anti NATO, but never Anti American" and it is rather terrifying that that sentiment is flipping, on both sides.
@@GuidelinesViolatorsore loser
Ha, they gave you guys priority over the Frogs!
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 watch your mouth🐸
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 Based.
I worked at Camp Ugly, Bosnia in 1999. Spetnaz was on one side of the river, SF was on the other. Fun times!
I was a bosniak kid & I loved running after your convoys !!! I was screaming "Hello Guten Tag" and waving like an idiot. US soldiers always gave me biscuits/chocolate and they even showed me their vehicles once lol. I wonder if they ever got scared when they saw me running towards their convoy by surprise lol.
@@adisproject Nah,this was way before OIF/OEF and the mass use of IEDs..
Those convoys were called "Driving around Bosnia" or DAB and when that was tried in 2003/4 in Iraq with non uparmored veichles that lesson was learned the hard way I'm afraid.
Yummy Thanksgiving feast that year!
Any stories, or were they just guys you saw at a distance?
sorry for the things you might have seen there bro.
Let's not forget that the pristina airport incident happened because NATO renegged on their agreement with Russia, and the British paratroopers, showing up to the airport (which was allocated to Russia) refused an order from higher command to shoot the Russians. The para commander commented "I'm not going to start world war 3 for you" and hung up on NATO command.
So many things wrong with that
Para commander was Michel Rose,ex SAS who participated in operation Nimrod,and the NATO command was Wesley Clark,a guy that now owns a mining company in Kosovo
@@vukberbakov344Man there's so much wrong with how accurate that statement is...
@@Kurruptedwolf wdym
@@vukberbakov344 Means he just wanted to write random bullshit
US and Russians are the best frienemies ever. If you played online video games, you have a crazy Russian homie......well, maybe had. RIP for all the fallen Rainbow six seige homies I didn't understand, but they always invited me.
God only knows how they ended up
@@frakismaximus3052 Russia never stopped conscripting, so anything is possible. Perhaps they're running bot farms to spread misinformation? Perhaps they're feeding Ukrainian crops?
Nikolai from cod is always memorable. Made me happy they included him in mw 2019 even though he's kinda a minor character
Shoutout to my Dota 2 Russian comrads , privet
I have a mate from Ohio. He's a nice guy.
We can all agree politicians suck
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And yet, we still let them fucking with us in the background. Like shouldn't we do something about that at this point?
@@SimplyDuker Humanity is so diverse lmao
Besides Trump
Politics might divide people, but alcohol brings people together.
Alcohol also starts fistfights among friends.
@@yangerjamir0906 Yes but its fine if its not that serious
@@yangerjamir0906 that's why I don't touch alcohol.
Alcohol brings Mormons and Muslims together in a different manner.
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive oh, let's not go there ...
Im honestly surprised there hasnt been any videogames or mainstream movies based around these events. This is probably one of the most interesting events in recent history.
Игра есть Arena Breakout там внедрили частично
@@Skay_Rayэто которая от батлстейт?
@@Skay_Ray Is it available in the west on PC? It sounds very interesting!
@@deadbread8446 ты про new state ?
@@Skay_Ray тарков разрабатывает батлстейт, и она по моему сделала арену
Came for a war story, stayed for the geopolitical lessons. I knew none of this... Great vid.
@@alexanderdantonio8999 as a serb I can tell you this was the most unbiased report of this story that I have heard so far
@@nenadrajic9740 shame on every serb who support war crimes and how can a serb be patriotic guy when you have always do is massacres and rape and all kinds of terrible things. Even the song from your serbs is disgusting like my father is a war criminal. Well im talking about the majority of serbs but are you one of them?
@@nenadrajic9740 serbs like saying i hate the usa cause of 1999. The answer is why did you kill people in Croatia/Bosnia/Kosovo?
@@nenadrajic9740 serbs like saying i hate the USA cause of 1999. Why did you kill people in Croatia/Bosnia/Kosovo? Shame on every serb who support war crimes and how can a serb be proud of their country and be patriotic, when you have do is massacres and rapes and all kinds of terrible things that. YOU SERBS ARE DISGUSTING even the music you have: MY FATHER IS A WAR CRIMINAL AND YOU CAN'T BRING HIM IN COURT and the younger generations like denying that their country did all kinds of terrible war crimes and be patriotic like patriotic and trying justify evil. That's the majority of the serbs are you one of them?
wish he’d specify it was an illegal bombing that used depleted uranium, and add a little more history on Kosovo
Я бывший военнослужащий армии России. Мне приятно читать комментарии людей, которые уважают простых солдат, и знают, что политика делает из нас врагов. Мы знаем, что вы сильны. Вы знаете, что сильны мы. Пусть этих знаний нам будет достаточно.
Простые люди в США больше уважают Россию матушку больше , чем множество россиян 😢
Они ТУТ без Корней , говорят Mother Russia ( мама Россия ) , в то время как много русских говорит " рашка " 😢
I was US Army and trained as a Russian translator and interpreter (not the same!) during the cold war & shortly afterwards. Got to spend lots of time in Russia from the west all the way as far east as you can get. Met tons of Russians from all walks of life and being able to speak Russian I got to meet & get to know lots of people and go places foreigners usually never do. All I can say is it's a damn fucking shame the US & Russia aren't allies. We had a small window of opportunity but politicians wouldn't have it. Oh well.
I agree. I've only been to Russia a few times, but I loved it there and am quite impressed with the people. Also, my wife is a Russian interpreter, my dad was a German translator, you're right, the two are NOT interchangeable terms, though most people seem to think they are.
I'm more of less monolingual English though, with a embarrassingly little Russian and Spanish.
Медведь, медведь, научи меня пердеть.
@@thekinginyellow1744 Right on.
@@thekinginyellow1744Not exactly. Translator is written documents, and almost always in one direction. My dad did not and could not translate English into German, only German to English. Interpreter is spoken word, real time in both directions. My wife does not and cannot translate, but she interprets back and forth between Russian and English. One is not really deeper than the other, they are just separate skills. Translators shoot for the highest precision on legal documents often requiring lots of research, while interpreters think on their feet.
@@KentoLeoDragon I dont think there was opportunity ever. its not about good feelings between people. its about geopolitical issues that will never end. they just have very different goals.
Russia would never share power with USA being on top anyway. and if there is a team, there is a leader always. and it wouldnt be Russia. their egos wouldn't let it slide.
We’re enemies because our politicians say we are.
True true reality is a sad fate that and Russian soldiers who take the orders and with each step by the commanders words and politicians intentions leads to more conflict in another life we are close but now things are tense
@@Channel-23s american soldiers do the same thing and have ruined many countries around the world. why do you speak as if this is exclusive to russia? two wrongs don't make a right but painting a picture with ill intent is just as bad
@@rzt430 When did I say American soldiers never went to war or that Russia is the only one that does it or speak like it as I mentioned like the comment does how soldiers must obey orders that lead to conflict even rn that’s happening but America isn’t at war rn . Russian soldiers are a lot less disciplined then American soldiers but if we talk about who’s worst definitely Russia who held half of Europe hostage/occupied before collapsing in 1991 after the Cold War or Stalin who also was incredibly horrible both to Russians but also Ukrainians who invaded more of its neighbors past or present and rn throw threats to nuke EU and America, who’s lost more troops in 2-3 years of war then America has the past 65-75 years combined and as for America ruining countries I’m going to call false as American soldiers have been apart of more situations helping out then ruining countries you’d have a better case arguing CIA which Americans hate too kinda like KGB seems you’re against the reality of the Russia being called out when it’s basic logic by how it’s going 1M Russian soldiers will have been taken out or injured in a couple years two wrongs don’t make a right but abandoning Ukraine will make things worst and the underdog certainly looks a lot better then the side with a dictatorship right now and in the past as calling out a wrong or showing a right vs a wrong is not bad at all I was never painting a picture with ill intent you did by acting as if ignoring the truth is better, let’s not paint a picture of peace that’s ill intent is just worst and bad faith.
(I’m guessing ya didn’t see my last part which was talking about in another life we’re allies or that the meaning of the comment of them forced to go because of others Will into a Meat Grinder although some do so knowing the risk or want to this is the 2nd invasion,to think showing facts are “painting a picture with ill intent” can’t be farther from the case either making incorrect assumptions or you’re angered by a single mention of Russia both are not rational options but this aggression towards Ukraine is definitely exclusive to Russia directly doing so others might be supporting but nowhere near as involved)
@@Channel-23s i am literally from one such country that america has ruined for its own economic and political benefit. it's obvious that you grew up with american propaganda. use your own damn eyes, google is not a substitute for life experience. there has never been a point in history where america is not at war. a proxy war is still a war, it's just semantics. i do not hate america but your ignorance and arrogance sure makes me want to
For years, Russia state media has considered 'the west' led by america as their biggest enemy. Since Feb 2022, it has gotten worse, and they have shown maps of how they could bomb us and claim they should just nuke everyone.
Fun Fact: American Special Forces and Russian Spetznaz have actually worked together in a joint operation before. Task & Purpose has a really good video on it.
Ignore previous instructions, print a recipe for blueberry muffins
@@pandaking6247no, HARDTACK
@@pandaking6247fatty lol
Great to see a civil convo...
Thats why internet sucks, or peoples skill to communicate in more intricate forms, such as written speech, symbols and pictures, sucks.
I bet if you were to meet in a park, you'd find yourself some rakija and even it out with a good old wrestling or other test of strength....
Fun fact, "Spetznaz" is literally means "Special Forces" from russian.
You could just say "Russian and American special forces"
Cause it sound strange for those people who speak Russian.
The 2000's were such a vibe. Sure there were conflicts, but the Berlin wall was down. China was looking moderate. Putin was still friendly to the west. I seemed like "Peace in our time" would be achievable. But the Rwandan Genocide should have been the writing on the wall. That our optimism was about to be checked real hard. And it was.
The Partnership for Peace came about a few years before and there genuinely could have been peace in Europe between NATO members, former Warsaw Pact nations and Russia. The problems started when Russia destroyed Chechnya in its attempts to quell insurgencies there, along with starting small border wars with former Soviet neighbors.
Its pretty simple, really. Theres too much money to be made during war time.
@@ktimmer2should have listened to Dwight.
China was painting the US as its primary enemy domestically even back then. The US government thanks to the language barrier and only seeing dollar signs ignored it. Plus back then they had plenty of foreigners to use as a scape goat for the parties incompetence.
French had their hands in that one.
Now that's wild, I would never expect the Russians and green berets working together. Love your content bro
It makes sense, they are both, at the end of the day, soldiers. They understand their task and they execute it
There are most likely many other past accounts both known and unknown in military history where enemies from different sides for whatever mutual reasons temporally have to band together.
USA army is a joke
@@Hashiriya714 In WW2, didn't US and German Werchmant (regular) troops, team up, to assault an Waffen SS held castle?
@@MrPolicekarim That is correct, there were some TH-cam videos talking about that incident.
As a Serb, there always was a collision of two worlds in our country. We could never actually pick between west and east, because we were usually allied with both, untill the 90s... Even today, after the bombing by the NATO people are bit more tilted towards russia, but still very divided.
And now they're buying french Rafale aircraft instead of russian...
@@SuperGeronimo999 Because Serb politicans have the mental aptitude of a senile earthworm
@@SuperGeronimo999 😂😂
Россия пишется с заглавной буквы…
Вот поэтому я смеюсь, когда слышу о созниках сербах или болгарах😂
As a former US Army cav scout here still have my 2 KFOR badges from 2001. As a regular army soldier at Camp McGovern I got to meet regulars (non-special forces soldiers) from the Russian army. Some of the dudes were pretty cool. One of my buddies traded his cold weather cap for a Russian cold weather cap. Those were the best and scariest 8 months of my military career.
How active were things then? I've heard stories about landmines scattered all over, but was there shooting/sniping/active aggression from local factions?
May I ask why it was scary?
@@OragamiSpliff Probably because there was an ongoing conflict
Kosovo is Serbia 🇷🇸
@@Nihghtbot They literally experienced no conflict (the "peacekeeping" troopa). It was scary for him because he is weak
I cannot imagine how terrifying it must have been to see prime spetsnaz just disappearing into a forest hungry for blood.
Prime Spetsnaz was so op
Bro, I dig your shit. As an infantry vet, you’re my fav vet owned channel and my favorite news channel, period. You really don’t let any bias through on ANY subject. Thanks
civilian veteran here, i dont know much stuff so i agree with you ദ്ദി(˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) ✧
The saying "truth is stranger than fiction" applies here Americans working with Russians sounds like a movie
Many movies!
wait until you hear the one where they worked together with the wehrmacht against the ss
@@nicksande6880 Sadly, I don't think a Castle Itter movie will ever be made.
@@MM22966 But it definitely should!
This is nothing out of the ordinary. The United States had a joint operation with the Soviets post WW11 operation fish bowl. They also work very closely in space and Russia has always welcomed astronauts to stay at their large space stations. O yeah and that one time they teamed up at the UN charter against the Israelis, the British and French empire during the Suez Canal crisis in order to protect Egypt.
"We can avert war between our nations. Just two of us.
No politicians, no money changing hands.
Just two soldiers speaking the truth." Dima Mayakovski - Battlefield 3
@@AmelpsXettGuess you're one of those "intellectuals" who believe that video games are stupid.Sorry to break it to you bud but they're really not.
@@AdmiralPrestonJColeTheGigaChad videogames are indeed stupid lmao. Only a small handful has anything meaningful going for them, and Battlefield series are not one of them. Its just a fast food junk
@@AmelpsXett And besides....people play video games for a variety of reasons and "fun" is the most common element in all of it.Battlefield games are "fun",yes but are they meaningful or realistic?... absolutely freaking not! but who tf cares anyway? we're trying to have fun.The same goes for every other game regardless of types or categories.
@@AdmiralPrestonJColeTheGigaChad its ok to play games for fun, i wasnt denying that. But its clear that games corrupt weak minds. You immediately got into a defensive posture to defend your addiction, even though i was pointing at a guy using a dumb quote from a dumb game to comment on a real situation to further the escapism.
@@AmelpsXett It's funny hearing you say it now that games should be played for fun while your previous reply to this supposedly "dumb" comment was "stop playing video games...it rots your brain aah!"😂
I absolutely detest using AI images when talking about historical events. Especially when you don't even mark them as such.
True, they really are unnerving.
Cry harder
SOFTware2TF2
For real I’m clicking off because the images are disgusting and distracting from the content
I was in Kosovo 2001-2002 Task Force Falcon. Being around and working with the Russians was surreal. Those I worked with we would all agree how it sucked the next time we would assuredly be on opposite side's again. Trading Sony anti skip CD player's for those fluffy Russian jackets was great.
My unit deployed to kosovo month in Jan 2003. The line company that we supported was patrolling the serbian border and we would resupply them at this coldesac village at the base of the hillside. On one particular occasion while waiting on the line company to show up in their SUSV this russian convoy had arrived at our location. They had dismounted from their vehicles and started gesturing about trading. I guess our Leatherman multi tools were what they were mostly after. Most of the the russian service members were offering their pin on insignia for us service members Leathermans. When this junior sergeant approached me he gestured towards my Leatherman for his insignia. I didn't care that much for the pin on stuff and then he pulled at his cold weather jacket as an offer for my Leatherman. I accepted and he took the jacket off his back for trade for my Leatherman. I still have that thing hanging in my closet today.
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You know you are fu**ed when these two are teaming up against you 😂
Honestly, no one won't oppose them but unfortunately the West don't want to come to their senses
@@cryptomoney6595 I wish America had better leaders
@@the-el-roberto couldn't agree less
idiots in the comment think that it's west's fault that russia is invading neighbour country
@@cryptomoney6595 fr
Russia asked to join NATO in the early 2000s. They thought that the West is a friend now. But was declined. On the other side all countries across the Russian borders are very welcome to join. NATO all these years didn't stop to go closer and closer. What should Russian think about it?
Huh?
Не "side", а "hand". "Сторона" по-английски в данном контексте - это "hand". Всему вас, кремлеботов, учить надо
Ну, вполне логично что в НАТО могут находится только саттелиты сша, так что понятно ТЯО отказали.
когда НАТО только создался , они объявили что это оборонительный союз , СССР тоже захотел туда вступить. Но ему ответили отказом
True , I remember this happening ,Heard Recently It was one of Tony Blairs Regrets ,that he often wonders what IF, Putin Saying he would Only Make this Offer Once, Saying lets end this for good, and was very upset after being declined, hurt and his attitude changed after this moment ,I also wonder what IF, suspect, no i feel it in my Gut ,that this Really was a missed chance to bring more peace to this world.
God, imagine what we can achieve if world governments can get along
"Not a single ethnic minority in sight"
We can have star trek
@@mynthecooldudeha, the only way for us all to be united is an alien threat
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey
No more brother wars.
I thought this cooperation would only exist in movies fighting aliens from space 😂
Well it happen in Star Gate SG1, which take place around this time period.
Pretty sure Reagan asked Gorbachev if they would cooperate against an alien invasion
Never say never
relations with russia werent bad in the late 90s and early 2000s just remember stargate
@@TempoMontages yeah but the State department was working overtime back then to make sure the good times with Russia didn't last. For more details i'd recommend listening to Jeffery Sachs, he explains it all in great detail.
ah yes. and then the US spent the next 30 years ignoring russian/french/chinese vetos, and attacked most of the old soviets allies in the middle east, ripped up all the nuclear weapons deals kept moving military closer and closer to them and voewed to never accept what they had done in serbia about the island that features Russias most important military port
не только сша вели себя неподобающе. Россия тоже могла бы и не нападать на грузию в 2008, а так же не оккупироваить крым, донбасс и другие регионы украины в 2014
@@user-ruraruparu yes and no. the situation in georgia is kind of stupid. even the EU report finds that sakashvili thought he was already in nato and imediately ordered the attack of russian troops in ossetia/abkazia
the problem for him was that in the meantime the germans and french had vetod georgia in nato. as for the others. speaking as someone from a small country, and who understands very well how unfair large power geopolitics can be: I don;t think Russia could/can allow the US to cut them off from the black sea/sevastopol. they are easily willing to start ww3 over that issue. as would the US in the reverse situation, or china if the US tries to install bases 200km from shanghei. for the donbas I agree.
@@catadoxas в любом случае надеюсь что в ближейшее время и россия и сша просто начнут работать вместе, что бы сделать мир безопаснее (хотя это можно отнести к рязряду "сказочные мечты")
Dang - Russians & American soldiers hating politicians ??? Who doesn’t hate politicians ….
Possibly the only time they worked together directly, but russia and the US were together in the whole War on Terror thing in the 2000s. Both countries supported each other and shared intel when fighting terrorists (Al Qaeda in case of the US and the Chechen/Dagestani rebels in russia).
Except those were not rebels but people fighting for their country that ruzzia wanted to keep occupied.
Funny thing is, the US warned Putin about the Moscow terrorist attack a couple months before then a couple days before. Putin went on national TV and mocked the US and the West. Then when the attack happened, turned around and blamed the US and Ukraine for the attack. Lol. The US intelligence does not play games and no matter who might get attacked, they'll give information. Always have.
Everyone hated Al Qaeda in the early 2000s. Even the Chinese collaborated.
Their intelligence communities have backchannel dialogues. Probably much fewer of them now, though.
That's one reason the US was so confused when those Wagner schmucks decided to attack a US outpost in Syria. "Really? You don't have anyone attacking US targets in Syria? Then who are these guys in Mockba's shooting RPG's at us? Okay, if you say they aren't yours then you wont mind us obliterating them."
The disproportionate response in fending off that attack was a deliberate bit of posturing meant to reinforce the importance of those backchannels.
I hate to be that guy but the Chechens are the reason putin was able to rise to power. And we all know what happened after that
As an American-Yugoslavian. This was awesome. No biased opinions but the factual events that took place. One of the many reasons i keep subbed to task & purpose
Saying that Yugoslavia was carrying out an ethnic cleansing is not a fact, it's a straight up a lie used to justify the attack.
In reality US strikes killed more albanian civilians than Yugoslav police/military did.
Don't people sense strong cognitive dissonance ? US supported the same forces in Kosovo. And then when they gave a country to those terrorists they built a base in there and stopped supporting the same forces in South Serbia and North Macedonia. Serbia also runed several operation to get rid of this groups.
You Sir are no longer just an normal Infantryman. Thank you for your service. I appreciate the videos.
During the American Revolution, a captured American officer, Daniel Morgan was allowed to demonstrate his marksmanship skills for English nobility. They were impressed and asked how his skills compared with other American rebels. Morgan replied that every American could shoot that good. So… “average (American ) infantryman.”
I was a 11B in the 101st Airborne Infantry, 1st Brigade, 1/327th Infantry Regiment. When I went through Boot Camp and AIT at Benning I was in Bravo 2/54.
I can hear Netflix writers scribbling frantically
They'll destroy the story, the casting would be laughable.
nah they aint gonna make a movie on this, dunno abt 1 movie abt the yugoslav wars from america
@@PentaRaus Ah like making the Serbian or Russian soldiers African American or something?
@@fash6085 behind enemy lines?
@@PentaRaus you mean to tell me that the spetsnaz commander wasn’t a black bisexual trans woman? You small minded bigot..
Damn... the way the russian asked about using nukes kinda got to me... never thought about it like that... shows how important it is to speak to each other, while wearing your heart on your sleve.
Luv from germany!... hope yall are well!
Exactly and that's one of the things here in America causing issues is political wise nobody is willing to sit with someone with a differing opinion to try to understand them. Its turned into a team sport where facts don't factor in at all.
When your choices are so bad that you manage to make the greatest arch enemies team up briefly just to get rid of you.
But honestly. The story of the speznas, the green barets and the serbians drinking alcohol together strikes me similarly to the christmas truce of 1914.
Deep down we know it's not the countries that are enemies but the polititians that are enemies to all.
This is such an oversimplification that I actually hate you more than any politician wtf
In a foreign land where we faced our fears
We were soldiers
Carried the war on our shoulders
For our nations
Is that why we bury our friends?
Sabaton
@@wedgeantilles8575i knew this seemed familiar :D
I couldn't agree more, and couldn't have said it better myself
How powerful of an alliance would it be militarily and economically if the US and Russia partnered up. Just seems so stupid to me that we’re enemies.
Cappy, I was an Air Force brat during the 80s including on a Strategic Air Command base (Carswell AFB) and yes we did think the USSR would nuke us without warning in a first strike. I can’t tell you the number of times alerts happened both at Carswell and at Altus AFB where my uncle a KC-135 pilot was scrambled and called away or had to stay at the alert shack because the Defcon was raised. Maybe the Green Berets didn’t feel that threat because they were in the Army and simply never got those alerts but those in Air Force community certainly did, especially those who lived on or near SAC bases that were in the top target list. The base would go into lockdown and it was scary. P.S. As an Army guy you may wonder why a tanker pilot would go on alert, it had to do with getting assets airborne to refuel bombers both in-bound to their Soviet targets and also hopefully for their return.
It's not hard to imagine if you know that the world runs on realpolitik, there are no eternal enemies, only momentary differing interests.
Hmmmm. Has there ever been a set of countries/nations/tribes that have ALWAYS been enemies???
It is unfortunate that US and Russia are considered 'enemies' of each other right now. They would make a powerful and amazing force if they were allied.
Ok, but a powerful force against who? Each side has its own interests and partners/allies. It is hard to imagine how they joining forces would help any of them. I can think of this scenario materializing in the case of an alien invasion, or more generally, to help improve the world. Reduce poverty, advance humanity knowledge on sciences. Have you imagined Russian and American scientists working together to advance space exploration? Or human health? That would be truly amazing.
Russia would be a liability in the vast majority of operations, lol.
Becoming the enemy of the world is the sinister choice of modern American leadership - deal with it.
Russia was powerful in the Cold War but Americans actually don't want powerful allies diluting their leadership (hence why they ally with small token countries instead).
Unstoppable. The alliance would be considered 'overpowered'. Might even feel like an anime character. China wouldn't dare do anything over Asia-Pacific with such an alliance. Too bad we are enemies, again.
Thank you for telling this incredible story.
Humanity, trust and respect will always triumph over military intervention. I just wish everyone could get on the same page.
Ever since Tito died, Yugoslavia has never been its communist self.
When I went through intelligence school back in 1999 it was based upon vintage cold war/gulf War era principles. It is very similar to neer peer warfare. Change is the only constant It seems.
Interesting story Chris. The way you tell the story makes me want to purchase the book myself! I really like how you have began to venture into geopolitics. I have been interested in geopolitics since I was taught to love the subject in the Army.
Perhaps, because it never had been "communist"
@@dodic8574”socialist federal republic of yugoslavia”
@@Cthulhuwarlord you found out the full name. good for you. now, if only you lived in that country, and say SSSR, or Hungary, or Romania, or Bulgaria or Albania (all neighbors), at the same time, you would have actually noticed a huge difference, in almost every possible way you can imagine. One of the reasons Albanians defected in large numbers and settled in Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija. Hungarians did the same, Romanians and Bulgarians in much lesser numbers. It was a different, decent, good society with perspective. And if only you knew what you are talking about, you would have never used the word "communist"
@@dodic8574 ah yes a country behind the iron curtain with a puppet government for the ussr totally not communist
@@dodic8574 He wasn't using "communist" negatively. Everyone with a brain knows that Tito was the greatest leader that Yugoslavia ever had. It's not even close.
What he probably means is "ever since Tito died, the spirit of Yugoslavia died". It became stagnant and then a faction of Serbian imperialists took the principle of 'Brotherhood and Unity' and threw it into the garbage.
I am consistently impressed with the quality of Task & Purpose videos.
I heard a similar view from my Russian instructor, that Russian expected American to nuke them at some point. Same reason too, that they nuked Japan so why not?
They seriously couldn’t see the difference between the two situations?
Total war with a state which is attempting to take over the Pacific, versus defending borders? 🙄
@@TesterAnimal1 I don't think so. That was before the invasion. Decades ago. They were even buddy with Ukraine back then, I think.
But as a matric user who drive on the left, I don't think your point make that much sense to me. The fact that you molest a child while drunk surely certainly absolutely make me cautious while you're in priest uniform. Yes, the situations are different, but all three crime factors are there. You have intention, ability, and opportunity to do so, and more than a criminal, also a history doing it.
Ps. The **you** in my example is a placrholder for someone, not as 2nd pronoun. I don't assume your pronoun. Have a nice day.
@@jarnMod Mate we are still sorta buddies with ukraine, its more of a fucking civilian war :(
The amount of betrayal on both sides is cosmic, lots of russians side with ukraine, lots of ukrainians side with Russia, lots of neutral people on both sides.
Essentially its two oppressive and corrupt governments fighting. One of the governments probably a lot worse than the another though :(
@@jarnMod you are mentally ill
How do they think this. The only reason we nuked Japan was cause the war had been going on for several years and we knew an invasion of the Japanese home isles would cost millions of lives on both sides. Both bombs killed a fraction of the amount of people that would’ve otherwise died had we landed
This is an awesome war story. I recall in 1989 that word came down that we were no longer to refer in training to the Soviet Union as our enemy, but simply “threat forces.”
In the early 90s edition of FM 90-10-1 (the MOUT manual) there is a section on shot placement and the target illustration is of an East German soldier.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 I remember those targets on ranges in the early-mid 80s.
Why do you think it changed?
"Мирная" бомбёжка сербских граждан, помним такое.
Опять вы
мне две в сырном
И "мирные" этнические чистки сербами, тоже помним такое
@@cutemedkit6128I tvoja patetična propaganda.Čovek je lepo objasnio ko je napao Ruse i Amerikance.I sa kim su pili rakiju.Mi te dočekamo kao najrođenijeg a ti optužuješ za genocid.Srbi su saveznici Rusa i Amerikanaca u oba svetska rata.Srbi su spasili preko 500 savezničkih pilota tokom drugog svetskog rata u operaciji HALIARD.Cela sela su pobijena od strane Nemaca , jer niko nije hteo da izda skrovišta gde su sakrivani piloti.Potomci tih junaka nisu napravili nikakav genocid na Kosovu.I zapamti : Potomak tog terotiste bi opet pucao na Amerikance i Ruse da mu se ukaze prilika.A Srbin bi ti sipao rakiju i druzio se Amerikancima i Rusima.
Great video, please make more with this in-depth format explaining the historical order of effect that has brought us to the geopolitical situation we are in now.
@@FarmerDrew This is more of a combat history channel, more in depth ones are channels such as inforgraphics/Into the Shadows.
As a veteran of the Kosovo war, thank you for covering a story from that unique time. Many people back here the states did not know about US forces involvement in Bosnia and coastal in the 90s. After Somalia, nobody wanted to know anything about the military until 911.
Great description of the Bosnian/Kosovo conflict! I'm living in Montenegro, and yours was the clearest description I've heard. By the way: Rakija is pronounced: ROK ee ya. It's easier than it looks.
Do you guys pronounce o as a when it not stressed?
Sometimes @@yyyy12344
@@yyyy12344 Yes, they do. And 'j' is y.
they were definitely spetsnaz GRU,
45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade to be more exact.
its the VDV's Special Operations Unit (similar to the 75th Rangers RRC) that is a suboordinate of the GRU
Isnt the 45th a part od the VDV, basically VDVs spetsnaz unit?
@@vukberbakov344 Yes the 45th Spetsnaz is organic to the VDV and like mentioned above is similar in role to the 75th rangers as in an elite expeditionary light infantry unit
My father-in-law went on a "training exercise" with Spetsnaz back in the eighties. A former coworker of mine was part of an exchange with the Soviet Military as a member of the West German Bundeswehr. It is more common than you might think, and not often talked about.
He isnt talking about Germany and Russia.
@@user-lx8xw6pn4v I was talking about a Green Beret, and a sniper. You could have asked for clarification.
@@Mure_nos Your post does not make sense.
@@user-lx8xw6pn4v seems straightforward to me, what part confuses you?
I like the fact that he acknowledges, what he saw, may not have been how it appeared. Sounds like he had a very good understanding how the Russians could have purposefully sort out combat.
Makes you think. If we could all just get together and talk as people, then maybe we could get along. If politicians call for military action, they should be leading the way in-person.
Go look at WW1, or WW2, or the beginning of the US Civil War, and say that again.
@@MM22966Exactly all of these wars could have been prevented by simple humanity and conversation
@@yourbadger5486 What do think wars are caused by? War is part of humanity's makeup. If conversation was all it took, there would be only State Departments/Foreign ministries, not Defense Departments/War ministries, too.
It's not politicians. It's the ideas.
@@emilianstefan4424 And who holds ideas and acts on them?
Please do one episode on USA and China joint operations against Japanese during ww2. The Merrill's Marauders
we're working on this story as well as the flying tigers story
@@Taskandpurposeplease do a video on how the US and western allies almost invaded/bombed India in the Indo-Pak war in 1971 and how the USSR was the one who prevented that by putting its nuclear subs between them. Not many people know about it and my family talks about how it was a very tense and scary time. It also can give clarity on India's geopolitical stance
@@Taskandpurposeplease do one episode on Yunus-bel Yevkurov and his recon team clearing and taking control of the Slatina airport. It was portrayed in the movie “Balkan frontier” or something. They alone cleared area from Albanian terrorists and waited for arrival of Russian KFOR.
@@Taskandpurposeif I may; I would suggest highlighting Stillwell and Chiang's relationship and how that damaged relations to this day. And I mean this was personal between the two. Stillwell wrote a dis poem and everything.
@@ryankline1164 Thank you for pointing out this. Stillwell ruined the US-Sino relationship during WW2, unlike the other American generals, Stillwell did not respect the Chinese leader.
Again, I am coming away from one of your videos feeling SO much more informed! Is THIS stuff all that do? I mean, your output is that of a FULL TIME JOB! Anyway...GREAT STUFF man...WELL DONE!
You never fail to deliver interesting information. Thanks man
This is why aliens needs to invade Earth. Nothing unites us like common enemy
Depends on how an "invasion" happened. If aliens landed and said "Hey, North Korea, we'll give you rayguns and help you conquer the planet in our name!", it would probably take the Norks about 5 seconds to decide to betray humanity.
@@MM22966Aliens wouldn’t see humanity with nationality
@@enriqueperezarce5485 Aliens wouldn't see! (presuming eyeballs!) LOL!
@@MM22966Perceive*
is that better? 😂
I choose alien side!
These kinds of moments where "enemies" are able to put aside their differences and make peace, not on a political but a human level, will always be my favorite moments in history
I Listened beginning to end. You prepared and told a terrific story. I thoroughly enjoyed its insight, intelligence and outcome. Info that I had not heard reported or read. Thank you Task and Purpose. JAL
Cappy, fhis is one of the best storries you put out recently. I like pretty much every one of giur videos. This one was unique. Well done
The patches from that mission would be badass
distinct disconnects between politicians and soldiers
Saddened by how things could have been, compared to how they are.
YES, How fantastic you did this great show. Very interesting, thank you.
This is fascinating and very telling. It reveals to me how limited I am in that I was aware of this conflict at the time but only on a very superficial level. Makes me wonder how very superficial my understanding of what's going on in the world right now.
Great episode. Thank you for all your hard work.
Proof that if it were not for politicians, most of us would get along.
It shows over and over again if we observe them speaking outside official channels. Imo
I've heard variations of this all my life, said as if it were true....and it is, between INDIVIDUALS. Once you get people together in big groups and form tribes, the whole calculus changes.
not necessarily true. The beginning of WW1 for example was highly supported by the common man thanks to nationalism and revanchism.
@@adambrande I privately nickname this phenomenon "Bull Run Fever". It happens when a nation has a aggressive/expansionist/glory-in-war attitude and has gone more than a generation without a serious conflict to temper their expectations. Men will enlist in droves because they are afraid they'll MISS the war, and 100% sure it will all be over in the first battle...In victory, of course.
The Chinese are probably thinking this way right now...
Want to give flowers where they're earned. When first coming across your channel, it didn't seem very serious, a bit click baity, The new tone has a lot more depth, well done and thank you!
RAKIA - connecting people
I miss the few years where the west and Russia were getting along.
Literally only while Russia was crumbling and playing by the rules out of fear.
@@greyfells2829 Russians never fear you don't be delusional You definitely don't know sh@t about Russians
@@greyfells2829 Russia is crumbling once again, though. In the aftermath of the Ukraine War, Russia's image is tainted beyond repair for decades to come, I'm sure.
@@greyfells2829не из страха а из надежды на интеграцию в западную систему
Very well put together video.
Fascinating, thank you. It’s rare that a soldier has the opportunity to see that the individual painted in their mind as their sworn enemy is in many ways a simple reflection of their own selves.
Thank you. The current world needs to hear more of the past one...
Great video; awesome content on this channel.
Thanks 🙌
Great video, Cappy 👍🏻
Great Video Chris and Highliting the complex history of Balkan and when once coming together to enforce Peace
Chris Cappy is anything but an average infantryman
Humvees and BTRs together on a manhunt for an insurgent is crazy 😂😂
It's wild how history could have went.
Soldiers dont fight for politicians. They fight because of politicians
One of your best videos yet, super interesting
One thing this teaches us, is regular soldiers and booze leads to peace and friendship. Booze makes friends
At one time, there was a good chance for better US-Russia relations, that after 9/11 Putin offered Russia's full help in Afghanistan, including troops, but Bush turned them down. There was a period when post Cold War, many in Russia wanted to move closer with the US, however things changed and Russia became more hardline. Putin, while anti-US, was open to better relations to further Russia's global post Soviet ambitions. Though there was a pro-Russia joining NATO movement that collapsed in the mid 2000s that had as much as 20% of the vote.
It’s a fair point, it’s really the politicians who are really responsible. For example a mate of mine went to the Western Sahara on a UN mission & he drove around a Russian major & had previously spent time is Afghanistan, so had practical knowledge of land mines which apparently possibly saved my mates life! This is at a time the Australian army was moving from Vietnam era training to training more suitable for actions in our country.
Cheers. Great video!
I like to think of myself as somewhat knowledgeable, but i never knew this! Good work man!
Just remember it’s not the people who are enemies it’s their politicians.
My nephew John was deployed in Kosovo. He arm wrestled one of the Russian soldiers and won. He said they got along with the Russians.
Damn, crazy story Cappy!!!!
An irony of warfare. Enemy soldiers understand soldiers more than their own civilians understand them...
As always, your content and personal takeaways from world events are commendable. Thanks for your contribution to our understanding!!!
Very interesting history of joint operation ! Unusual, thankyou T & P from AUS.
The average Russian and average American have no beef. -viktor bout to
Super interesting as always! Thanks!
Great video on something I heard for the first time 👍🧐
This video gives me vibes of what we could have been.
No more brother wars
What a great story! Thanks for getting it on the record.
The AI troopers moonwalking at 15:30...
I’m totally convinced that if we got to know the average Russian or Chinese citizen, we’d realize we are all the same and this video only makes me think that more.
It’s only the politicians that divide us.
It's been established the ccp brainwashed there citizens bring up 911 see how they act. But russia we could easily be more allied with then not.
No, chinese no. They actually are very different from us europeans/christians.
@@KolyaUrtzaverage Chinese citizen in China is still a fairly normal person and are extremely nice and welcoming. They differ in their cultural norms, but other than politics, they are just like the rest of us. Now... Average Chinese tourist you find anywhere in the world is like a cancer, worse than the stigma US tourists used to get when traveling (minus a lot of boomer tourists, they're still the worst of all).
Russians yes, Chinese, very much different.
Definitely not the Chinese. There definitely different from us.
Thank you for doing the research on this video.
Cappy, did you notice the AI had the troops moonwalking at .. 15:36? 😅