Demon Possession or Mental Illness?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- My friend, and Christian psychologist, Jeff Logue came on the show to discuss mental illness and demon possession. We talk about open doors to demonic activity such as substance abuse and unrepentant sin, and we talk about ways to analyze the activity of people to help us determine whether they have a mental sickness or demon possession. The Pentecostal-charismatic denominations of Christianity have by in large been the only voices speaking to this issue of "demon possession". However, we perceive that many of these voices have neglected the reality of mental illness, we try and bridge the gap.
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just found your channel and really enjoy your content.
is there a way you can increase the volume of your uploads? in the video with Dr. Heiser, his level was low even with the volume cranked on my device.
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Hey Wallenda, we will try and normalize the audio as much as possible. We will be upgrading our equipment in the near future so hopefully, we will have things standardized in the next few months.
+The Remnant Radio thanks for the quick response.
may God bless you and your ministry which is very needed for our times.
Just a heads up there is an app that you can download to your phonethat will increase the volume! I find it really useful
@@somethinggood9267 thank you!
@@TheRemnantRadio audio is not syncing up on this clip for some reason.
I used meds for ahwile not knowing any other options. Mayne it save my life momentarily, but It made me numb. I started looking into other things for help. I did a lot of therapy. Read books. Tried supplements. Exercise. All those things helped. As I grew I began to pray more and eventually felt like God told me to get off meds. I went slowly and moved to the natural approaches. Felt better than I had in years. But still had episodic moments. I cried out to God. Over time, He showed me places of demonic entrance. Not enough time or space here, but once I attacked the spirit part of mind, body, spirit, I was better by leaps and bounds. I walk in victory now! Quick things you can do is get outside, get off sugar, play praise music all day, check into supplements, and then get with a Christian therapist and someone that does deliverance ministry. Thanks for this interview but take it deeper for those still struggling.
Also childhood traumas and wounds can also open us up to demonic forces. sometimes individuals need deep emotional healing to overcome these dark powers that have been allowed into their lives by adults who are responsible for taking protecting and caring for them.
Once these wounds begin healing they can Begin to build up strength and faith to close the door to the darkness. Again, it's so important that these people feel supported and that we pray with them and for them until they are delivered.
Aaah, no they don’t. What you just wrote is NOT biblical.
@@Mark-yb1sp What isn’t biblical?
@@sheilaboland6285 What you said seems pretty balanced.......
@@Mark-yb1sp ?? Explain?? What she said, seems logical.
Childhood traumas (usually from Christian parents filling their heads full of poop) is just that.
No demons have ever been demonstrated as being real.
Kind of silly to think we have a supernatural world.
It’s interesting that here in America most will not acknowledge the fact that demonic oppression or possession is a possibility because it’s too “out there” or “offensive”. Yet if you go to a 3rd world country if they witness the same person and the same behavior they will say “that person suffers from a bad spirit”
I’m dealing directly with a relative and it is demonic possession or at least demonic influence
@@Kenneth-nVA Or maybe Alzheimer's.......
Third world countries usually don't have doctors who can diagnose bi--polar, petite mal seizures, Alzheimer's, or things like that.
You said, "most Americans will not acknowledge the fact that demonic ......"
Could that be because they are simply not real?
Why, oh why, do you think demons are real?
Any good evidence or proof?
@@caroleimani9754 Third world countries see it for what it is, it's demonic. Third world countries believe in the power and deliverance of God more then America. America don't believe in God or his power like they say they do.
You mention drugs and their effects but you haven’t mentioned pagan and magical practices. I was involved with yoga for over 30 years and I was trying to release my kundalini, and I did. I don’t know how demonic this was however I was psychotic for over 20 years and it wasn’t until the Lord healed me, miraculously, that my psychosis ended this year. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder 1 with psychotic features and I know that my own story of mental illness is a part of my ministry for God. The doctors who provide the clinical support on my team think it’s the medication, but I took the same medications for 20 years with no change until someone prayed over me and God was ready for me to be healed.
Please have this guest on again. Thanks you!
I feel my psychosis was demonic . Also, I had been thru severe abuse as a child and I think my escape was psychosis even tho I did not realize it
I think that people who have been victims of child abuse, can seem like they have "demonic issues," but it is probably a form of depression and things like that.......
I feel deeply sorry to hear you were abused as a child. I can't imagine what it's like to carry that load. Lots of wicked people praying on children. I think it's the worst crime. I pray that you have a happy life now.
I wish Dr.Logue could have talked more. I felt he didn’t have the opportunity to share a lot during the hour. I wanted to know more of his experiences and knowledge.
I like your channel though. There is a lot of subjects that I like to learn about on it. You guys talk about subjects that I wish I could talk about with other Christians without feeling weird. I wish I could meet one day Dr.Brown and Dr.Keener! I would love to have theologians friends like them.
I was a satanist, and I accepted Christ as my savior, but I Still have a spirit of lust.
Lol
Look for Derek Prince on spiritual walfare.
Lust is NOT a spirit. It’s an act of your flesh from your sinful nature. You sin lustfully because you want to.
@@Mark-yb1sp lust can be a spirit!
@@sheilaboland6285 Where is the Bible does it talk about lust being a "spirit?".I would like: The Book, The Chapter, and The Verse, please.......
Wish the guest was allowed to speak more. There was very very little of the topic actually discussed. Too bad
Something is up with the audio / video on this video. When it starts there's totally different audio to what's on the screen.
Yes that’s what I’m seeing as well! It’s kinda of annoying 🤔
But if the young lady has been seeking help to get rid of the demon of seduction...come on? Where is the deliverance ministry?
Is the audio not syncing up for anyone else?
Nope audio totally off for me too..
They also have a podcast if you want to hear the whole thing.
@@Shlambez thank u
@@Shlambez It sounds okay to me.......
Can being a fan of Horror movies bring about demonic influence, opprssion or possession in a believers life?
YES!
I don't think so... You shouldn't go around looking for "demons on door knobs," but watching horror movies isn't a good idea for Christians.......
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Thank y’all so very much 🙏🕊🙌
If someone comes to you and says he's demon-possessed, and you say nah, what in your view is most often actually wrong?
Why not do deliverance on the spot with the woman who "had the spirit of lust?" Why refer her to, yet, another person?? This discussion felt bad (as a female viewer) hearing 3 male Christian men discuss the details. It felt somewhat judgemental actually.
Also, demonization isn't always felt "by a cold room, chills, etc."...the enemy deceives.
I wish you'd let the guest talk more!
There was a time i smoked weed where i thought i heard the thoughts of the devil....so weird.
This was not an accurate discussion on the content. Demonisation isn't like the excorcist where the room goes cold etc. Demonisation is very common and needs to be destigmatised. Go have a look at the ministries of Katherine Krick and Isaiah Salvidar on TH-cam. It's more common, is mostly if not all mental illness - from a father with a daughter with BPD, untreatable depression, suicidality on 20 SSRI and AP meds - it was the work of deliverance that completely healed her. Josh you need to interview Fern and Audrey, Katherine Krick and find a christian psych that can give a less 'exceptional' view of deliverance. This topic needs to be higher and the destigmatisation needs to be higher on the agenda.
@Christian my daughter received TMS from the standard model. Pretty standard these days. It was a stronghold in her deliverance. The chems she was prescribed, standard part of treatment were demonic strongholds in her deliverance. She was encouraged to journal all her self hating and destructive thoughts. Pretty standard. It was a stronghold re-enforcing her condition. None of these ailments are in heaven. She was in and out of hospitals for 3 years. Only deliverance healed her. Bipolar and borderline personality disorder - these ‘diagnoses’ don’t go away and treated as finding a way to live with them for their entire life.
Deliverance completely healed her. She has not even symptoms today.
Chemical imbalance is a physical manifestation of spiritual affliction, not the other way around.
So yes, if not all. Demonic affliction is very common. Tares with the wheat. Or do you think the tares are other humans? They are demons that we all live with and through the power of the blood of Christ we overcome. Church needs to see just how common this is.
👏👏👏👏👏 agreed
Isaiah Saldivar goes around LOOKING for demons... That's why they "manifest."
Let's not go around looking for "demons on door knobs.."
40:50 how would it be to say that when you were walking and saw the woman, a demon put its foot into the door of your mind, and your choice to resist it at that point prevents it from further access, for example, allowing it to convince you to look at her again?
Wait? Did Jesus cast demons out of the scribes? When did Jesus cast out anyone who wasn’t suffering?
May I ask sir? Can demon possession and mental illness can happen at the same time?
My maternal Grandmother had a weird "situation" She would be sitting quietly and all of a sudden (why?), she would jump up (for no obvious reason) and start ranting and raving...The doctor put her on some kind of medication, but it didn't help very much...I think my Mom put me in charge of my Grandmother, because I was a Christian and I knew how to pray.......
When my Grandmother became a born--again Christian (when she was in her 80's).all of these "spells" stopped...She also started taking Communion...No more problems.......
I'd say yes. I've heard exorcists say repeatedly both can be present at the same time.
What about child possession,a child who has not seen drugs,alcohol,pornography or any sexual abuse,basically a pure innocent child,how do they end up possesed.
Because they were consecrated to demons by their parents or grandparents - people that have spiritual authority over them.
Almost all cultures perform exorcism.
That is a funny name for a book, I don't watch porn, but its fun to say "porn in the pew" kinda reminds me of Pepe` La Pew. or Corn on the cob.
Please let the guest talk! 😬
I SPY WITH MY LITTLE HAND ON MY EYE AND I HAVE EARS OPEN EARS AS WELL AS THE SUN
I don't know how I'm breaking your community guidelines when I type things about the behaviors of a malignant narcissist?
You can see it in the young boys eyes he is demons possessed!
🤔 Me wondering whose child y’all used for that thumbnail… 🤣🤣🤣
Whaaaaaaat! Jesus was born again 🤔
I think he just misspoke. I've listened to this show enough to know that he wouldn't affirm that.
Jesus WASN'T born--again...He is GOD..
He spoke the universe into existence...Why would He need to be BORN--AGAIN?? Where is that in the Bible??
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Can it be possible that the person with autism be a source of blessing for the family for the purpose of doing good to them like a way to create a humble heart?My only push back on this thought is that it is something that is foreign to who God is.
Autism isn't a blessing...My cousin has that, and it has been nothing but trouble.......
Jesus never needed to be born again because He was sinless ! What heresy and blasphemy!!
As a psychiatrist this dudes description of the 7 year old has a hole in it...There isn't a medical doctor or psychiatrist in the world who would authorize a dosing that would knock an adult down to a 7 year old. Even in a situation where physical restraint would be in progress, the dosing for this age range would be pretty mild with IM benadryl being the likely medication used, perhaps IM vistral....
Actually, there are many instances where physical restraints are used in addition to chemical restraints. I have personally been involved in cases where this happens. I've also seen patients require massive amounts of sedatives before they take effect. It happens like this: you give a normal dose and expect within a certain time frame to see a certain effect. If the patient doesn't have the desired change, then you give more, and more until the desired effect is achieved. I've given triple or quadruple the normal dose to adults until the sedative is working. In the meantime, physical restraints are still required until the sedative is working.
@jonathancuzner3881 exactly what I was going to say, and I'm not even a psychiatrist. For one: it's pretty much common sense because it's the same way Drs administer pain relief. They're not going to go straight to a more potent dose and risk the patient's life. Number 2,
If this so called psychiatrist doesnt know this, then he ain't no psychiatrist. Psychiatrists are constantly altering the dosages of medication they prescribe for their patients simply because
all these psychiatric drugs will ALWAYS be considered trial and error drugs. What works for one patient who suffers from the same mental illness as another, will end up causing severe side effects in the 2nd patient.
mental health care has always been in a unique field of it's own (AMONGST all medical Specialties), why? despite copious amounts of medical research, clinical trials and building new brain analysis technology, we STILL cant find, grasp NOR understand the mystery we call the human brain. Therefore Treating mental illness is extremely convoluted. Not to mention Big Pharma's neverending agenda. I should know. I'm a just another damn lab rat amongst millions. So Mr shrink can just take his a** and go sit down somewhere. If he really is a psychiatrist, & I can figure this shyt out, then why doesn't he KNOW? He should know better than to insult someone's intelligence. He should know mental illness and a person's IQ are mutually exclusive
Satan can never be your father. God made you, He is your only heavenly Father. Satan didn't and cannot make you or anything. You are owned by your maker (the Good Lord), you are not your own. You cannot give away or sell what is not yours to begin with. Remember the prodigal son. The Good Lord owns you and has open arms to welcome you back. Satan is the father of lies, theft and murder, that is his only creation. What does the Good Lord say?: Luke 13:3 Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. Look at the other videos in the Remnant Radio Series on Demonology. This is not a good one. That Dr. doesn't even know how to cast a demon out. Demons don't have bodies. That is their problem.
what kind of grown men giggle about this? Very immature
y'all take too long to get to the subject
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