@@marchuwu_exol actually, there are no underrated nct members, they're all acknowledge with their own capabilities but there are just members who are overrated
@@michelled9315 not overrated, yes, but more popular than the rest of the members, anyway, I really can't agree that there are underrated members, there is none
Much as I wanted to hate Kris for breaking EXO apart the sanity in me doesn't allow me to...look how they treated him, anyone would go cray cray😭😭Even lay, just that he has the patience to tolerate SM's bullshit... He is totally a blessing... Also Sehun, I remember those days when he need not to worry bout his voice as an idol coz saying "EXO" used to be the only god damn line he got
@@bellakhiangte2301 honestly same! It sucks how SM treats their idols, why start a group of your not going to treat them all the same. I remember kris saying later on that he used to take care of Lay all the time because of how they treated him and he felt bad. He said the same thing about Sehun. He said he made songs where he was supposed to get more lines but SM made him change it.
I really can't understand why SM doesn't let Winwin act in Chinese Dramas he has been approached many times. SM scouts were so desperate to recruit Winwin
Btw there are secrets between the idol and sm itself. Some of my friends are working in sm and they couldnt tell me why they arent getting equal lines because she said its very personal and things. But seems kinda sus to me lmao
Lu han got the most screentime and line in growl yeah so much mistreated.. while xiumin and sehun got 0 lines and 0 screentime but they're not chinese so the mistreated card don't apply to them
Our beloved Jonghyun from SHINee!!! He even talked about how SM wouldn’t let him do his music his way in his suicide letter! I don’t think he was a black sheep but he DEFINITELY was mistreated by SM!
SM doesn't deserve to be the top 3 company considering how badly they treat their idols, their idols deserve a better company that looks after them and treats them how they need to be treated
BIG TIME!! Even today I see people say they are SM stans. Im like stan the groups not the company, especially if they treat their artists like property and not people.
@@ins198 in my opinion SM deserves its place as the best entertainment company in SK. All of their idols are extremely well trained and professional, this is because SM know how to train them and how to bring out their skills, in my opinion SM’s idols are the most polished out of every other company. You think idols just walk into an audition with all the talent they have now? Of course not, they need to be trained and SM are definitely confident when it comes to doing that because they’ve created some of the most famous idols yet (BOA, SHINee etc..) Of course the mistreatment needs to be dealt with and recognised but other than that SM needs to be complimented in producing such talented idols like SuJu, RV, EXO, NCT etc.. most of the idols who are named “the best vocalists in kpop” are signed under SM.
@@maggie1479 yes but they have favourites, if they wanna train everyone and give opportunities then give it to all the idols of the group, dont just leave them out of it because they are different, SM also disrespect many cultures, dont come at me, but many cultures and religions are disrespected, and they still don't do anything to change it
I agree that lee hi is so underrated, when bp is out she got disregarded.... and YG doesn't deserve CL afterall. And also, they are not blacksheep, they are just mismanaged and received less care from someone they are expecting to take care of them more...
WINWIN is not only a cute or an Handsome Guy. He Is Fucking Talented too .Knowns Traditional Chinese Dancing & is learning Traditional Korean Dancing and also knows Contemporary Too. Has a flexibility Body and Can Perform with an ease . ALL 23 MEMBERS ARE WHIPPED FOR WINWIN.On the other hand SM is WINWIN's ANTi The Boy Puts in its 100% but in return receives nothing. The Boy Debuted 4 years Ago. I agree every members has a time to shine .But isn't it high time that SM gives him Chance. Winwin is a gem and he will shine. edit-*Thank you for so much likes . I didn't excepted to get so much likes*
The fact that sm doesn't treat winwin right but in ncity, he was loved by everyone. Even non yunqis always has a special place in their heart for him. And nct is just a bunch of talented yunqis😂
Yes! I was shocked when she said that! Like uhm if they’re going to make a video like this atleast get their facts right or do some research enough. 🤦🏻♂️
@@farzeenfaruque489 Oh dear, you have no idea the amount of mistreatments he got + he is a Chinese artist, so its well known how sm treats them But the fact that the 2 new members that just debuted in nct have more lines than winwin who debuted in 2016 in nct explains alot
Just to say Chanwoo wasn't "bullied" by Hanbin please (okay that video was that one only time). Hanbin and the other members babied him so much till today and Chanwoo admitted that his lines were little as he's still got a long way to go (he's the yg artists with the shortest trainee period) but all his lines were the killing parts. The blacksheep for him is that yg never let him act despite him being a child actor at first. He did wanted to do so many times but was turned down while the other artists can.
exactly. That was hella misleading. The whole group loves chanwoo so so much and he’s highkey the one “bullying” them. Bullying is such a wrong word but chan knows how to defend himself and he’s highkey called maknae on top 🤠
That was one of the most stressful periods for iKON, especially Hanbin. He was the one who had oversee training for 3 new trainees, support the other 3 who are fighting for their positions, support Bobby thru SMTM3, not to mention coping with his own battle with SMTM3. Also, does anyone really believe that no Kpop group’s members would hit each other at all?! Yeah, right.
A friend of mine is getting into k-pop at the moment and when I asked her why she doesn't want to learn the Twice members even if she likes them, she told me that she already has to tell the BTS and Blackpink members apart from each other and with Twice that would be 20 people and 20 people are to many for her. And the first thing I had to think about was how all 23 members of NCT walked on stage when they won their awards at MAMA 2020 xD
The way SM is mistreating Winwin now hurts me the most. Even Dream members are not allowed to talk about him. They didn't allow him to act. They are hindering everything
It was in one vlive where Renjun or Chenle (I don't remember which one) started to talk about Winwin but then they were told to change the subject from behind the cameras.
Undesrtanding is much more help to everyone considering that an english song doesnt compatible for jisoo's long lines because she's still learning and trying her best to be fluent in english. As you can observe in their songs which is korean language , jisoo got her long lines. Just saying thank you.. i love blackpink 💜💜💜
@@armyblinkoncemidzyexo-lmom3083 If you can say so that jisoo was mistreated by the company have you ever witnessed it ?. I know your bias is jisoo and i love jisoo too but concluding about that topic its not only jisoo was mistreated right ! everyone does experience it. Even though yg is at a bad image or what else do people think about the company still they try to provide us an idols that are very amazing and without yg blackpink will not exist .and if jisoo was mistreated by yg or doesnt care about her why did they choose jisoo to debut where infact there's a lot of trainee in the company.✌✌✌✌
Of course I respect Kris as an ExoL! He showed us how talented he is leaving Exo! It hurted us yet he showed that he is a star! I'm proud of Our Galaxy!🌌
@@learival9120 yes I have, nct isn’t actually always promoting as 23 tho they’re usually promoting in sub units which don’t have too many members unlike svt which is a fixed group of 13, always promoting as 13. And yes loona have 12 members too ik but I don’t get your point like what am I supposed to do about that my comment is about seventeen???
Am I the only one who also misses Lay being part of EXO?? Hahaha. It's like people always mention the Chinese rap line and exclude Zhang Yixing. I do hope they are doing much better in their careers in China. Side note: Where is Xiumin at?
I miss kris soooo much he is my bias ;_; , Am just super freakn glad sehun didnt leave sm yet with how they treat him most concert he literally has to sing 10 lines thats it he really love his members more then anything not to forget how they dont even promote exo sc .
need to stop treating his Chinese idols like that, Amber, Henry, Renjun, Chenle, Tao, Kris, Luhan and Winwin are mistreated and there are a lot of proofs, in a Vlive a manager told Renjun to change place with Jisung cause they can't have a Chinese center, and there are more proofs, so I wouldn't be surprised if Renjun, Chenle and WinWin left, like Tao, Kris, and Luhan did........
Renjun case i think they told jisung in the mid because he is the youngest and he is quiet type so he can get more attention. In other Vlive i dont see any problem Renjun being in the middle even with other korean member.
@@janiceapas2072 well said.. I think so. They are wasting his talents.recent comback just hit me how can they always put him in the back never a centre position.
“Don’t you think 12 members is an overwhelming amount of members?” GIRL... I’M AN NCTZEN😂😂😂 Edit: I’m also a multi so add bts, stray kids, txt, mcnd, ateez and enhypen to the list... I stan about 60 something guys😶😂
Honestly I'm a carat and with 13 members in seventeen, it doesn't feel like that's alot because I'm so used to of it now it feels cool and for some reason it feels shorter now lol
CL is not a black sheep, she was the front woman of 2ne1, constantly overshadowing her members and had all the praise from YG - Minzy was the black sheep of 2ne1
She gave examples to why she was the black sheep because she was still part of YG while other members such as Bom and Minzy who left the company, she wasn’t talking about 2ne1, she talking about CL as her solo artist while she was still under YG, and it’s true, she has no promo, no deals with outside company, didn’t help her in anything. After Dara left the company, YG removed 2ne1 from their website, signifying that none of the members were no longer part of the company, Dara was the last of 2ne1 to leave the company, and in that point, both females were not given any recognition by their company so technically she’s right as to why CL was the black sheep, not in 2ne1 but in her solo career.
Part of why Henry got so little love is that the K-Elfs freaked out when he was announced and piled hate on him for daring to join SuJu. They were concerned that adding him would mean dropping another member and they boycotted Henry. Watching Heechul and the others support and protect Henry at that time is really heart breaking. They practically plead with the fans nad public to love him and be kind to him. It was truly a cruel thing to do to the kid.
So SM did consider to make Henry an official member of SuJu but it was the fans that opposed to the idea? I always wonder why Henry only in sub-unit. I thought its because of SM dont want to make him as an official member. I think Henry story is the most sad one compared to the other. At least the other black sheep are an official member of their group and Henry was never recognized as an official member of his group.
Not to mention that treated Kyuhyun like that too at first because he got added after SJ debuted as 12 members. They treated him like dirt and only "forgave" him after that terrible accident where he almost died. Smdh
Not just Henry, Zhoumi too. That's why they weren't made official members because of K-'Elf'. Henry left SM, and its SM's and K-'Elf's lost. Zhoumi remained in SM and is aware his talent is being wasted, but he stayed ONLY for SuJu. He hopes that SJ-M will have a comback one day, but as much as it hurts to say, that subunit hasn't been active in a while ): he deserves better. I swear Korean fans act like they own SJ just because they purchase the most.
@Arwa Boussayri it doesn’t matter how many groups they have. If they can’t handle that many groups then stop churning out more. Its disturbing how their mistreatment is an on going cycle. They obviously need to change their business model from top down approach
@@denisetovias122 i mean... if theyre going to make videos like a news source, the minimal amount of research can be done to find out how to pronounce a name. Awards show say the names often enough, and this is supposed to be an informative channel, not a reactor channel discovering an artist for the first time.
Unbelievably Winwin stayed for so long, the projects that have been rejected of SM and other mistreatment. He should be a world star already, brighter than now, but SM sucks. I am just thankful Winwin is so patient, but I wouldn't be surprised if he left.
Chanwoo bullied? Chanwoo is such a savage you can't even imagine and Hanbin loves him so much. The mistreatment Chanwoo has to go through is that he gets no acting gigs even after being a child actor, such as playing the role of little Lee Minho. he has done no acting in the past 7 years
For me I think its not mistreating ( in my opinion) JYP agreed the shopee and jackson as a brand ambassador ( i think it was that) so I think he is just to busy
Whilst Got7 isnt promoted as much, I definitely think Day6 was done way more dirty. Day6 was barely promoted because they were too busy promoting Got7. Then Got7 was suddenly dropped once Twice started becoming more popular than them.
Amber deserved SO MUCH MORE!!! When I discovered f(x), SHE caught my eye because of how different she was. She was literally different then every other girl. She deserved the best.
Istg CL gets dragged for nothing. She literally did the most and got the nothing to show for it. Leehi- was also done dirty by YG, they actually stifled her so much.
@@Polar-pj3zp sad that this promise broke 4 times T.T Lucas, Sungchan, Shotaro, the new member Jungmin who was supposed to debut with NCT's new Subunit 😭😭💔💔
@ΦMusicΦ ΦSoulΦ *Loona* has the same amount of members as *EXO,* that's why I didn't include them. I didn't include *Seventeen* either because they (officially) have 13 members, while *NCT* can add new members and will be very hard for new *NCTzens/Czennies* to remember their names.
the audacity to say chanwoo was bullied by hanbin over one out of context video when chanwoo himself cleared it all up and said they were all close to each other like a family... the need for clout is real
IFKR! THIS BEHAVIOUR IS CALLED PLAIN IGNORANCE.....I watched this video after seeing Chanwoo on the thumbnail, only to realise they are spreading false rumours about ikon and its' members.
Even if.... there’s a limit to physical contact of other pple... just because they are close doesn’t mean they are allowed to violate someone no matter who they are to you. The company might have even told him to do that. If his your bias well sorry ( not sorry ) but that’s just plain out the truth. That’s my opinion but decisions are not meant to be made through emotional attachment !!!!
Just a clarification, your facts were wrong, iKON never bullied Chanwoo, instead he is the maknae on top, so pls check your facts before giving it out and caused misconception
B.I violently hited Chanwoo?? What!? You just took the scene out of context and twisted it!!!Everybody who watched the reality show and not only it but all the shows with IKON know perfectly well that IKON is the friendliest guys. Even PSY had personally said that IKON is a group that has the best relationships with each other among all the other groups he knows! Even Chanwoo himself said that B.I is a hyung(older member) he wants to care about. And also in that reality show B.I said that "Chanwoo is the nicest boy in the world". So stop talking nonsense!
It's obvious from the fact that the narrator isn't even pronouncing some of the idols names correctly. I've watched a couple videos and it's always the same.
@@vickyh1823 most of it are just weird twitter rumors claimed as fact, really bad video, top that with mispronouncing names, and confusing positions, and even a blatant misunderstanding of timelines and a mistranslation it all adds up to probably being a specific standom making a video to sow discord in other fandoms. I think we all know what standom :p
This Winwin condition is super disappointing. As some point, I feel like crying for him when he isn't given the minimum screen time he deserves. I really don't understand what SM wants to do with him.
i think its time for him to leave sm honestly i don't think he can show his full potential under their wings i know winwin gets more lines in wayv than when he was in 127 but still that is not enough besides being a visual he does not have a particular role in the group is he a vocalist or a dancer or a rapper we all know that he is a great dancer for me i think he has better dancing ability than mark yuta and even taeyong if he had been at any other company then they would have surely used his great dancing abilities and put him at the center in most parts of their choreo so i think the conclusion is winwin has the potential to be a mega star if he leaves sm and finds a better agency just like kris wu
@@shashwotmarsani8417 it's very sad that you're not wrong! Winwin is so popular out there, even after being ignored for so many years by SM. Think what he could do, if he was given the chance. SM played bad with him! Very bad!
@Kokichi wants your Location they didn't officially disband, none of the SM groups but a difference is that all SNSD members are currently promoting solo. They are still a group. Disbanding ≠ Not being together anymore. Ps, learn some manners.
I saw Chanwoo, I click. I think other fans misunderstood that issue. Members love Chan so much. And Bruh, YG needs to bring back Actor Chanwoo🙄 he deserve it and he really wanted to act again🥺
It saddens me how many people think SNSD disbanded just because some of members the left the company. SNSD said many times they're still together. Hyoyeon herself is even still with SM lol.
Okay being an iKONIC I would like to put some light on Chanwoo. First of all each member adores Chan, he is considered maknae on top. For people who don't know relationship between the members kindly don't interpret things. I do admit that he gets less lines but it was also not easy for leader B.I to do so. The voice has to suit with the melody and vibe of the songs, they've openly spoken about it in weekly idol. Somewhere down the line Chanwoo himself knows he still needs to improve as compared to the other members. iKON is a very free spirited idol group who do not seriously follow hyung and maknae kind of tradition, they are more of friends..all 7 of them despite of their age gaps. Once again Chan was never ever mistreated... not even once.
@@masochisticdoll SM did him dirty mostly between fall and the tail end of 2021. Barely any lines and no screen time. It kept happening over and over til Yutezens banned together and threatened to boycott. It literally appears as though SM has finally taken Yuta off of punishment. It was great seeing him in a JCC with Johnny getting his nails done. Yuta was NOW acting his charming cheerful self again.
ok im a winwin stan and i just can’t with sm anymore. i feel like crying so hard, he’s one of the original members but sungchan and shotaro still have more lines than him. he’s gone through so much, remember nct life in seoul, he teared up while saying he felt horrible because he was awkward with taeyong and yuta because he couldn’t speak korean properly back then. sicheng says that he doesn’t show his emotions to anyone and he’s called himself ugly a few times. i don’t wanna jump to conclusions but i feel like winwin’s been going through something for the past few years and he needs so much support rn. lee sooman travelled to china nine times to recruit him so why can’t he treat him well? in 90’s love, sicheng was the leader of the unit but got three seconds of screentime, and there was that video of him crying recently (im still not sure if he was crying, we’ll never know) can we just all show sicheng the love he deserves
I agree!!!! Winwin is much senior than shotaro and sungchan but still they got more lines and screen time(don't take it wrong I love both of them)and he's even the freakin leader and if he wanted he could be much popular in China but still he chose to be with SM ..........idk what's inside the mind of SM P.s this is just my opinion and sorry for my English (if it is wrong somewhere
I mean I just don't know what in the world sm is thinking ? Can't they see his popularity , talent and his passion on what he wants to do . As someone who has watched him since the very beginning , it just hurts a lot .
@@RVQuesada yeah.....he is a professional dancer but did you see in 90's love he literally just got to harmonize with the members and his part in song is just like 10 or smth seconds and the dinosaurs got more screen time......
About the heechul case, he suffered an accident some years ago and his leg hurts while he's performing, that's why he doesn't have so many lines bcs he can't dance the hole dance, so they always put him at the end so he doesn't have to dance a lot:(
And if some people bring the 'Devil' song as for example that Heechul is not suffered because he danced all the way, that song performance wasn't really that explosive and high power of a performance as another song 'Black Suit' for example.
The thing is heechul is vocalist and rapper and as all of us know suju has lots of members including 3 of the best main vocalists in kpop and eunhyuk as main rapper and a lot of lead vocals and lead rappers so it's kind of natural for him to get short lines in songs. It always happens for bigger groups , you know? It happenned for shindong too. And sehun of exo has the same situation. It often happens in groups with more than 7 or 8 members. And in recent years he couldn't attend promotions because of his leg injury so it was natural to give him less lines. I don't think sm was mistreating him intentionally. Actually he has had lots of opportunities to shine in lots of different varitey shows. It's obvious that he is so talented as a comedian but if sm didn't manage him well , he might not be able to be this active on tv as a person starting off as an idol.
actually kris was the one who drew the attention of most international fans I became interested in exo and started stanning exo because of kris😭❤ I miss him a lottt ot12 forever
Same!!! I saw one of his iconic blonde hair, white shirt going around the internet and had to check him out, therefore leading me to be an EXO-L till this day. My heart broke when he left, then luhan, who was one of my ult bias as well. And then Tao. Omg I didn’t like 2014-2015.
no, it’s ot9. i don’t think the formal members would like that you’re still representing them as EXO members. They left EXO because they were mistreated, so please represent them as SOLO artists :)
Ok so so basically we can say that yg , sm and jyp are the most unequally and mistreateing idol company 🙄 that's so true bro if you agree than 👇👍😂cause I surely do bruh
Yes. I love their artists, but the companies are absolute shit. Especially yg. Blackpink had to wait 4 years for a complete studio album. They have minimum songs. They r so mistreated, especially jisoo. They made rosé change her voice. They're still not promoting rosé's solo. Jennie gets so much hate for being the privileged member. They lock the girls up in a dungeon. They don't let them attend award shows. They cant drink. They cant drive. They cant go anywhere without their manager. They don't have a say in their clothes. They cant even talk to other boys in their agency. Am I the only one who thinks these are too much?
@@srilakshmi3637 yah like that's just too much like I feel bad for 2NE1 yg shouldn't have disbanded them if they couldn't take good care of bp too , like yg could have kept two girl group cuz like it's not like he doesn't have money they give him too much but he doesn't want to use it on the one's who actually made him that much money
@@srilakshmi3637 the rules for Blackpink have been eased by YG. This is because, they have enough 5 years for YG strict rules. All of them already drinking. Rose like to drink beer, Jennie and all BP members like to drink makgeolli (Korean traditional strong alcohol). They also can interact with YG boys in public too. Because in YG (idk in another company) "strict rules" only need to practice by idols for 5/6 years( this is what Dara said in one of variety show). After that, you're free to do whatever you want. But seems like for 3gen group. Like, Ikon,winner and BP. They can't drive. Maybe driving is part of strict rules that they(YG) can give any permission to do that.
@@pakhisharma8231 YG really didn't want to disband 2NE1. Yang Hyun Suk was the only one who disagree to disband 2NE1. The only ones who disagree are the shareholders. It was a tough fight for him, himself vs Shareholders. Since the majority wants to disband 2NE1, he has no choice.
Where is Ailee tho? I heard rumors that even after she left her company they were blocking her from music shows etc. Can anyone shed some light on the situation for me?
@@sunflower-vz4du No he doesn’t 🙄🙄🙄 if you read a thread without a proper source. Actually he had be wrong like every human being but he apologized and changed and yes there are reliable sources not like the ones from Twitter !!! Furthermore that happen 10 years ago, and saying those things Without a reliable source is defamation and you know what ?? That’s a crime in every country in the earth, so you’re being the problematic here. Shindong had made a lot of more good things for the industry and the idols who works in that field, but the people are so focused on reading false rumors and believing everything that they read in Twitter that they tent to forget that
Another thing Heechul isn’t being treated unfairly but there are some reasons why he doesn’t sing so much in the past 1. He had an error while singing in the early years and go bashed by the people and fans so badly that he lost his confidence. 2. He suffered from a serious depression. When Hangeng left the group, he doesn’t even eat and he was planing to leave that’s why he refused to sing more lines. He stayed because the members cared for him and always have an space for him whenever he is out of his room. 3. The accident he suffered in 2006 caused him several injuries and whiting the time it worsened so he decided not sing to much in the titles songs, so the members don’t have to suffer changing the choreography cause of him. But he sings more in the others songs, besides the title song since 2014 in mamacita album when he recovered his confidence in singing
@@nakuraitomi21 I can give some links if the people ask for it. I’m sorry for being rude but fight for fairness about Shindong for years sometimes it’s tiring, plus he is really kind with some groups and help them but got nothing but hate from their fans. And what I say is true, speaking about laws, talking about a person without a reliable source and just in base of rumors, and spreading them, can be taking as defamation and that is actually illegal and have penalties, in some countries you can go to jail for defamation, I’m just saying people like to point a finger to others without realizing that what they are doing is actually worse.
@@kimbaphyung6207 im not sure about other asian country..but in my country black sheep in a family is define as a troublemaker person..the one that the family is not proud of and only burden the family or organization..but actually black sheep can be use in two different sets of circumstances..one is like what i stated before..the second one is black sheep can be define as a person who have give all their efforts and hardworks only to get ignored, mistreated and being use in the end..they used the second meaning of black sheep in this video..they not looking down at the idol in the list instead they shed light on the list of idol whose after all their hardworks and effort all these year in their respective company but only to get mistreated and ignored in return..its sad knowing that these idols had to go through that for a long period of time😓
@@khairulzainal8145 It only means the first one to me so it's not surprising if other people also take this that other way around. Specially without watching the whole vid. It has a lot of misinformation and assumptions too.
@@kimbaphyung6207 me too..i thought of the first definition too when i read the video title..i only understand what the title means after i finish the video..about the misinformation..i dont really know regarding the information since i only know what these idols had to go through from the video..the only idol in the video list that i knew was mistreated and ignored by the company is henry since he talked about all the mistreatment he had to faced while he in sm but im not sure in what program.
Chanwoo is never bullied. That's just boys playing rough and the over sensitive fans who (probably) never saw when teenage boys play. And in case the video-maker doesn't know, now, Chanwoo is a maknae on top aka he's the one "bullying" his hyungs...
@@essaishaaq1218 it's more than you could even expect lol. akb48 are divided into 5 units, and each subunits have over 20 members, they use this "graduate" concept, which means the lineup often changes. these whole thing also applies to their other sister groups like hkt48, ske48, and the list goes on
Can I say something about Heechul? He had a car accident that results to him having problem in his leg which resulted to him to have a little part in suju's songs, the company is worried about his condition that's why until now he has still little amount of parts, and their dances are not that hard because of heechul's condition (tho i'm not pertaining that heechul's condition is the only problem).
I remember during that era vlogging was the way Jae entertain himself from work, he has said that a few times. I also remember many fans joked around saying "jaesix season 2 file corrupted" when he didn't release any vlog though he closed the first season saying there would be more fun stuff the next season. Years later, uh oh we know the reason
I was so confused... I knew about Lee Hi and I was just like... wait a fucking minute m.... Is it not hi like High? I was just like I know i pronounce things wrong all the time but does she not go by Lee hi? Who is Lee hee?
@@whatever_voyez5123 but for his own career and betterment he should leave now i think anyone who knows about him and nct should have realised by now that he is never going to get the love and attention he deserve from sm he is just being kept for his handsome face i think he is such a nice human being because if same thing had happened to most of the people they would have left the company a lot earlier i think the only reason he is in the company is because his members love him a lot unlike sm but its high time now i think it has come to a point of either u make or break situation for winwin
Oh no, please. I know this is unfair, but it will hurt my heart and of course the nct members hearts (they love Winwin so much). I think SM will treat Winwin better if we show a big support for him. Big support= big money. SM like money. That's it.
If winwin will leave SM while the contract isn't finished yet then he will be sued like what happened to KrisHanTao. He can leave the company after the expiration of the contract just like how snsd and f(x) members did.
Hello, could you do another list with GOT7's maknae Yugyeom on it? JYPE doesn't treat him well either. He gets decent lines on songs and performances but JYPE blocked him from having solo schedules, they don't let him open his own YT channel and he's been saying he felt empty doing nothing these past months. He only has schedules when GOT7 comes back with an album, Yugyeom is not promoted as much as other members either. JYPE only gives him a chance once in a blue moon. He deserves so much than empty schedules 🙏🏼
Ik he has a model figure and even learned modeling but there no cfs unless as a got7....I love all of them but he was the one that attracted me at first and he is still my bias now but it hurts my heart seeing him neglected with that much talent and visual😭😭😭
YG treat 2ne1 soo bad... Especially Minzy I love YG artists and music..... But i hate the company and i Miss B.I and 2ne1 i really hate YG because of 2ne1 and B.I but i love their musics
1:51 Hyoyeon was the main reason for me loving SNSD. I thought she was the cutest thing. I did notice that she often got over shadowed but still rooted for her.
The funniest part about Hyoyeon situation is that even being the last popular member, she's always releasing the most iconic and energetic songs. She's an amazing artist and i respect her so much because even with just a little screen time or one line in the songs, she can show how powerful she is. Winwin situation is kinda different, he's one of the most popular chinese members from nct, and SM made a hell in his life when he was in china, just for him to join the company as a trainee, debuting him with just months, he couldnt even speak korean, and now, they treat him like he's nothing. Me as a nctzen, would prefer see him going on a solo career in china, than being under SM management. CL case is so sad, because YG used her like a way to get closer of international artist, and get features with other YG artists.
Sis... justy dont. You basically just did some "research" cuz some things u did are bs. Even the names of some of these idols! Its better if u just dont talk about this subject if u dont even know them. The way u pronounce Lee Hi's name, the way u talk about Chanwoo and Ikon. CL.. I aint gonna talk about that. In YG, the only girl who was a real black sheeo was Minzy, she never did anything solo. Everything she did ewas together with the other members. Nothing against CL, but she stayed in company for 3 years after not even having gigs for 2 year prior. She we, her fans, told her to leave.
i've been looking for a comment like this! cl especially was basically treated as the female g-dragon, it was only after she left to sign with Scooter Braun in America that YG put her on hold, but she's basically kpop royalty. minzy was the real blacksheep of 2ne1.
Honestly the whole of 2NE1 was so disrespected. Bom's "scandal" wasn't even bad and YG essentially ended her career. He ended Minzy by not allowing her anything outside the group. Dara was stuck just floating in other activities because YG was destroying 2NE1. He promised up and down to CL a bunch of BS to get her to stay, then did to her what he did to Minzy in the end and shelfed her.
Also the fact that heechul is in this for receiving few lines because he literally can't dance anymore. Heechul is disabled. His doctor ordered him not to dance with super junior or else he can't walk anymore.
@@kaily9456 Omg yes! Was looking for someone that has a fucking brain... It just takes a few minutes to search his name up and look at the Wikipedia article of heechul, see, that he had the car accident and since then his lines and screen time dropped because OF VERY FUCKING OBVIOUS REASONS. You could take the date of the accident and the music and album releases after that accident and you can see, that he got less and less lines. Heechul was one of the main dancers in the beginning and had a decent amount of lines in the early time of Suju. Heechul was my very first Kpop bias and I sincerely love him and Suju, but I'm happy that for once, Sm isn't that much of a shit company and doesn't force heechul to dance, when he can't anymore, because of the accident... Ugh I'm. So. Pissed. Off. This girl literally has this channel and videos for views and money...
I feel like you may have twisted Chanwoo and his story with IKON. It is true that at first Chanwoo and Hanbin didn’t really get along but they are amazing friends after the reality show. The members don’t bully Chanwoo and their love for one another is very pure. Is also want to say that Chanwoo doesn’t get many lines because he was the member who trained the least. He was added into the lineup last minute and had about a year to train. He is my bias and I would love to hear him sing more in their older songs but do understand that the other members trained longer and are more stable. Chanwoo is beginning to have more lines and their b-side song distribution allows Chanwoo to sing more.
YGE didn't deserved Jung Chanwoo😭 SME didn't deserved Winwin. 😭 They don't even let sicheng and chanwoo act and sing!!! They are such talented idols but they keep hiding this gems!!!!! 🤬
SM has all gem as an idol with them but they don't know what to do with them. Also there are lot of underrated NCT members.
True that.. so many
Agreed. They're wasting too many talented people. Smh
@@marchuwu_exol actually, there are no underrated nct members, they're all acknowledge with their own capabilities but there are just members who are overrated
Kriexhya Rhaein Remorin No members are overrated I think SM just prefer or Favors some members
@@michelled9315 not overrated, yes, but more popular than the rest of the members, anyway, I really can't agree that there are underrated members, there is none
Let’s be honest pretty much all the Chinese members of Exo were badly mistreated
Yeah and it's messed up that they faced mistreatment just because of the fact that they were non-koreans
Yes because everyone knows SM doesn’t like foreign people or members for groups
Much as I wanted to hate Kris for breaking EXO apart the sanity in me doesn't allow me to...look how they treated him, anyone would go cray cray😭😭Even lay, just that he has the patience to tolerate SM's bullshit... He is totally a blessing... Also Sehun, I remember those days when he need not to worry bout his voice as an idol coz saying "EXO" used to be the only god damn line he got
@@bellakhiangte2301 honestly same! It sucks how SM treats their idols, why start a group of your not going to treat them all the same. I remember kris saying later on that he used to take care of Lay all the time because of how they treated him and he felt bad. He said the same thing about Sehun. He said he made songs where he was supposed to get more lines but SM made him change it.
But I am happy that all the mem who left exo are doing great as soloist.
When SM treats Winwin like a black sheep but we can't deny that he's everyone's favorite.
He’s my ult 🥺
Even the NCT MEMBERS THEMSELVES love him sm
yesss
True
speaking facts right there ^^ can confirm this as he's my ult
I really can't understand why SM doesn't let Winwin act in Chinese Dramas he has been approached many times. SM scouts were so desperate to recruit Winwin
Soo true!!
I think he also went to a film school in China
@@jessicayiting4217 he did and he was one of the top graduates so he is fully capable
I would cry if that happened omg 🥺🥺🥺
Btw there are secrets between the idol and sm itself. Some of my friends are working in sm and they couldnt tell me why they arent getting equal lines because she said its very personal and things. But seems kinda sus to me lmao
Sm doesn't deserve Winwin 🤬
right
Exactly, Winwin deserves so much better, he’s a great dancer, vocalist and visual, still SM mistreats him so badly....
@@yellowbuttercup i wouldnt be suprised if he left....
@@abilanderos222 me either, but I would be sad :(
@@yellowbuttercup yeah, i hope sm starts treating him like a person soon
Henry has impressive amount of talent . Honestly is of the most talented musician I have ever seen. K pop doesn't deserve him.
They haven't deserved Henry since only13ers. -___-
You can say that shit again, they didn’t deserve Kris either.
i didn’t know he was supposed to be in suju😳
@@stellayun6303 we was a member of super junior
@@stellayun6303 HENRY AND ZHOU MI WERE TOO GOOD FOR SM. they had the whole audacity to only let those boys on stage for a couple songs at any smtown
I’ll never understand the Winwin situation he’s one of the most popular members even with less lines.
its like the more they ignore him the more popularity he gets
i had no idea about sm's orders for him not to dance/sing outside of nct. that's just messed up.
The funny thing is that SM flew 9 times to China trying to convince Winwin to join the fucking company, for what? 🤷🏻
@@smol_rh for real? That's so messed up-
@@iamcute7487 yup! I read that in a lot of nct fans blogs, etc. :(
Sm is really BAD at handling idols especially at the "Chinese" ones that's what makes me more scared for Nct knowing half of them are Chinese....
They already start treat the Chinese Nct Members like hell. But NCT fans put them in their place
Lmao, you should search hangeng super junior member to see how sm made him dirty.
Lu han got the most screentime and line in growl yeah so much mistreated.. while xiumin and sehun got 0 lines and 0 screentime but they're not chinese so the mistreated card don't apply to them
Its unfair honestly..
@@sa5m225 I feel that too . SM start to mistreat NCT Chinese members
Our beloved Jonghyun from SHINee!!! He even talked about how SM wouldn’t let him do his music his way in his suicide letter! I don’t think he was a black sheep but he DEFINITELY was mistreated by SM!
Yes I really miss jonghyun
:(((
SM does a lot of their artists dirty. Maybe one day some of them can start their own agency and treat their employees a lot better.
Yes SM can't handle their ALL IDOLS EQUALLY :( it's really UNFAIR! From Every Group atleast 1 MEMBER ALWAYS MISTREATED! :'( it's really HATE thing
:(
Kris Wu left and became world wide star on his own, and he is HUGE in China, he started a hip hop show in China and made over $1B called Rap of China.
I'm really proud of him
On top of that, he's doing well in America as well. He acted in XXX: return of Xander cage
Yess. Support Kris WU 🇨🇳🙏🏻🙏🏻
Glad to know that
hes my favorite idol
The only thing I love about SM is their artists!!!!
The company sucks
SM doesn't deserve to be the top 3 company considering how badly they treat their idols, their idols deserve a better company that looks after them and treats them how they need to be treated
@@ins198 True it makes me mad because Idols might dream to go into SM and once they get in they face the reality of how horrible of s company it is
BIG TIME!! Even today I see people say they are SM stans. Im like stan the groups not the company, especially if they treat their artists like property and not people.
@@ins198 in my opinion SM deserves its place as the best entertainment company in SK. All of their idols are extremely well trained and professional, this is because SM know how to train them and how to bring out their skills, in my opinion SM’s idols are the most polished out of every other company. You think idols just walk into an audition with all the talent they have now? Of course not, they need to be trained and SM are definitely confident when it comes to doing that because they’ve created some of the most famous idols yet (BOA, SHINee etc..)
Of course the mistreatment needs to be dealt with and recognised but other than that SM needs to be complimented in producing such talented idols like SuJu, RV, EXO, NCT etc.. most of the idols who are named “the best vocalists in kpop” are signed under SM.
@@maggie1479 yes but they have favourites, if they wanna train everyone and give opportunities then give it to all the idols of the group, dont just leave them out of it because they are different, SM also disrespect many cultures, dont come at me, but many cultures and religions are disrespected, and they still don't do anything to change it
I agree that lee hi is so underrated, when bp is out she got disregarded.... and YG doesn't deserve CL afterall. And also, they are not blacksheep, they are just mismanaged and received less care from someone they are expecting to take care of them more...
Good thing she isn’t under YG anymore
I agree 👍
@@anjellyfishh what are you doing here jungkook
just kidding
lee hi is amazing and yh defnitely underrated
Too many artist on a company that's so bad😑
WINWIN is not only a cute or an Handsome Guy. He Is Fucking Talented too .Knowns Traditional Chinese Dancing & is learning Traditional Korean Dancing and also knows Contemporary Too. Has a flexibility Body and Can Perform with an ease .
ALL 23 MEMBERS ARE WHIPPED FOR WINWIN.On the other hand SM is WINWIN's ANTi
The Boy Puts in its 100% but in return receives nothing.
The Boy Debuted 4 years Ago. I agree every members has a time to shine .But isn't it high time that SM gives him Chance. Winwin is a gem and he will shine.
edit-*Thank you for so much likes . I didn't excepted to get so much likes*
HE LITERALLY GOT A LOVER GROUP IN NCT WITH YUTA AS THE LEADER 😭😭
@@acaterpillargivingbirth YUTA SAYING NCT ASSEMBLE , WHEN WINWIN STARTS TALKING.
How old is he? I’m confused why he’s referred to as a boy, I thought he was older like in his 20’s.
@@j.r.2674 23 years old by international age
LITERALLY EVERYONE IS WHIPPED FOR WINWIN EXCEPT FOR SM LIKE HUH??? I FEEL BAD FOR THEM THEYRE LOSING OUT ON SUCH A PRECIOUS GEM
SM: ignores winwin
NCT members: winwin fanboys!
This made me cool down a bit
The fact that sm doesn't treat winwin right but in ncity, he was loved by everyone. Even non yunqis always has a special place in their heart for him. And nct is just a bunch of talented yunqis😂
@@bronwynsbakery I'm glad lol ✌🏽
@@haem5385 ikr
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Hyoyeon isn’t “formally” of SNSD. SNSD didn’t disband. She’s still SNSD. They’re just focusing on their solo work.
Formerly
Yes OP doesn't know what she's talking about
She's still SNSD
Yes! I was shocked when she said that! Like uhm if they’re going to make a video like this atleast get their facts right or do some research enough. 🤦🏻♂️
They are still on hiatus
It makes me mad that mostly of this were SM. And the Winwin one makes me sooo sooo mad. Like i wanna punch those stars and SM.
Why??
@@farzeenfaruque489 Oh dear, you have no idea the amount of mistreatments he got + he is a Chinese artist, so its well known how sm treats them
But the fact that the 2 new members that just debuted in nct have more lines than winwin who debuted in 2016 in nct explains alot
@@eimanfatima5387 she means why punch the stars
Don't blame the rest of the members of NCT, they don't have a say in it. Blame SM and the staff.
@@charlottehaesen6984 winwin is still lucky because his fandom is pretty large unlike the other black sheep of the company.
SM always mistreats Chinese members 🙄 and winwin does not deserve this 😭
Just to say Chanwoo wasn't "bullied" by Hanbin please (okay that video was that one only time). Hanbin and the other members babied him so much till today and Chanwoo admitted that his lines were little as he's still got a long way to go (he's the yg artists with the shortest trainee period) but all his lines were the killing parts. The blacksheep for him is that yg never let him act despite him being a child actor at first. He did wanted to do so many times but was turned down while the other artists can.
exactly. That was hella misleading. The whole group loves chanwoo so so much and he’s highkey the one “bullying” them. Bullying is such a wrong word but chan knows how to defend himself and he’s highkey called maknae on top 🤠
ikonic be like, who bully who???
Louder!!!
Wait the video is so misleading hanbin loves chanwoo so much
That was one of the most stressful periods for iKON, especially Hanbin. He was the one who had oversee training for 3 new trainees, support the other 3 who are fighting for their positions, support Bobby thru SMTM3, not to mention coping with his own battle with SMTM3. Also, does anyone really believe that no Kpop group’s members would hit each other at all?! Yeah, right.
Non-kpop fans: 7 members are so many
Me: *laughs in NCTzen*
That jungUwU pic as your pfp is the cutest thing I've ever seen......
Me: *laughs nervously in once*
yah dont lie nct is more look like n city 😂😂
A friend of mine is getting into k-pop at the moment and when I asked her why she doesn't want to learn the Twice members even if she likes them, she told me that she already has to tell the BTS and Blackpink members apart from each other and with Twice that would be 20 people and 20 people are to many for her. And the first thing I had to think about was how all 23 members of NCT walked on stage when they won their awards at MAMA 2020 xD
me: laughs in carat,nctzen,army,moa,engene,blink,once,etc.......
The way SM is mistreating Winwin now hurts me the most. Even Dream members are not allowed to talk about him. They didn't allow him to act. They are hindering everything
What😳why isn't he allowed to talk with them? Are you kidding me!
what? tell us more
It was in one vlive where Renjun or Chenle (I don't remember which one) started to talk about Winwin but then they were told to change the subject from behind the cameras.
@@shenaaaaaa
In this video you can see it aroun 1:42 th-cam.com/video/VFmAVvNv9bE/w-d-xo.html
@@mnjk1558 it was Renjun and he was talking about Winwin's vacation 😭
SM lost these precious gems especially those former chinese members of EXO.
Yes
Honestly, just waiting for Lay to leave EXO and SM. It seems inevitable at this point.
Jisso is no stranger to this topic I feel so bad for her Yg treated her dirty but I think it’s getting better now I love you jisso
Jisoo**
Ikr JISOO deserves much better
Undesrtanding is much more help to everyone considering that an english song doesnt compatible for jisoo's long lines because she's still learning and trying her best to be fluent in english. As you can observe in their songs which is korean language , jisoo got her long lines. Just saying thank you.. i love blackpink 💜💜💜
@@queenLiLies_ tbh, yg don't even care about her this not about lines but she not mistreated..but yg don't care
@@armyblinkoncemidzyexo-lmom3083
If you can say so that jisoo was mistreated by the company have you ever witnessed it ?. I know your bias is jisoo and i love jisoo too but concluding about that topic its not only jisoo was mistreated right ! everyone does experience it. Even though yg is at a bad image or what else do people think about the company still they try to provide us an idols that are very amazing and without yg blackpink will not exist .and if jisoo was mistreated by yg or doesnt care about her why did they choose jisoo to debut where infact there's a lot of trainee in the company.✌✌✌✌
Of course I respect Kris as an ExoL! He showed us how talented he is leaving Exo! It hurted us yet he showed that he is a star! I'm proud of Our Galaxy!🌌
Kris really needed to leave SM. SM doesn’t deserve talented people. They only place talent in their basements.
@@lena_nguyen17 yup! SM lost a Valuable Gem! I'm happy now that Kris can do whatever he wants to! At least he doesn't regret being in Exo!❤️
Its oky..Look where he is now
I wasn't heartbroken seeing Kris go. He always seemed so sad.
@@nikolnolastname4473 Yeah he was sad! 💔
“Don’t you think 12 members is too much for a group?”
Seventeen: Yall hear someone?
Have you heard of Nct?
And loona?
@@learival9120 yes I have, nct isn’t actually always promoting as 23 tho they’re usually promoting in sub units which don’t have too many members unlike svt which is a fixed group of 13, always promoting as 13. And yes loona have 12 members too ik but I don’t get your point like what am I supposed to do about that my comment is about seventeen???
@@dior-lia nct u has 23 members...and...um...resonance has about almost all 23 member were in resonance, and black on black had 18 members in it
@@sailormoonmuichiro320 & still counting members ;) 💚
Literally miss Kris, Luhan and Tao
And same is going on with Winwin
Am I the only one who also misses Lay being part of EXO?? Hahaha. It's like people always mention the Chinese rap line and exclude Zhang Yixing. I do hope they are doing much better in their careers in China.
Side note: Where is Xiumin at?
I miss kris soooo much he is my bias ;_; , Am just super freakn glad sehun didnt leave sm yet with how they treat him most concert he literally has to sing 10 lines thats it he really love his members more then anything not to forget how they dont even promote exo sc .
@@thisandthat7677 Samee!
@@linagwako9675 I thought Xiumin was in military.. Also, people don't mention lay because he haven't left the group
(Kinda off topix) that's why I'm surprise they (sm) had WayV because sm's history with anyone other than Korean to have enough support.
need to stop treating his Chinese idols like that, Amber, Henry, Renjun, Chenle, Tao, Kris, Luhan and Winwin are mistreated and there are a lot of proofs, in a Vlive a manager told Renjun to change place with Jisung cause they can't have a Chinese center, and there are more proofs, so I wouldn't be surprised if Renjun, Chenle and WinWin left, like Tao, Kris, and Luhan did........
It’s Racism. Plain and simple
That's one of the reasons why I hate so much the SM omg!!
Renjun case i think they told jisung in the mid because he is the youngest and he is quiet type so he can get more attention. In other Vlive i dont see any problem Renjun being in the middle even with other korean member.
Why Asian people hate so much other Asian people but still using idols of certain nationality to attract fans
I'll cri for years wbk.
iKON members LOVE Chan...I do agree he doesn’t have much lines in comebacks, but his members DO love him!
it looks like SM casted WinWin as NCT's Backup dancer. Always in the back.
What's the point in adding him on the group he's hondsome and can act too just debut him as an actor rather than on idol if you can't promote him well
@@janiceapas2072 well said.. I think so. They are wasting his talents.recent comback just hit me how can they always put him in the back never a centre position.
“Don’t you think 12 members is an overwhelming amount of members?” GIRL... I’M AN NCTZEN😂😂😂
Edit: I’m also a multi so add bts, stray kids, txt, mcnd, ateez and enhypen to the list... I stan about 60 something guys😶😂
That's what I thought lol
Ikr🔥23members🔥
Same and does Seventeen have 13 members
Honestly I'm a carat and with 13 members in seventeen, it doesn't feel like that's alot because I'm so used to of it now it feels cool and for some reason it feels shorter now lol
as a caratzen i processed that statement in my mind for a sec and then laughed
CL is not a black sheep, she was the front woman of 2ne1, constantly overshadowing her members and had all the praise from YG - Minzy was the black sheep of 2ne1
She gave examples to why she was the black sheep because she was still part of YG while other members such as Bom and Minzy who left the company, she wasn’t talking about 2ne1, she talking about CL as her solo artist while she was still under YG, and it’s true, she has no promo, no deals with outside company, didn’t help her in anything. After Dara left the company, YG removed 2ne1 from their website, signifying that none of the members were no longer part of the company, Dara was the last of 2ne1 to leave the company, and in that point, both females were not given any recognition by their company so technically she’s right as to why CL was the black sheep, not in 2ne1 but in her solo career.
@@VaVaVoomVoom Dara is still signed with yg.
@@VaVaVoomVoom Dara did not leave YG, she is still with YG to this day.
I can agree Mizzy felt like the black sheep when 2ne1 was going strong.
@@grampamirlin funny thing is, Dara finally left YG.
Part of why Henry got so little love is that the K-Elfs freaked out when he was announced and piled hate on him for daring to join SuJu. They were concerned that adding him would mean dropping another member and they boycotted Henry. Watching Heechul and the others support and protect Henry at that time is really heart breaking. They practically plead with the fans nad public to love him and be kind to him. It was truly a cruel thing to do to the kid.
Fans are not much better than the companies sometimes
So SM did consider to make Henry an official member of SuJu but it was the fans that opposed to the idea? I always wonder why Henry only in sub-unit. I thought its because of SM dont want to make him as an official member.
I think Henry story is the most sad one compared to the other. At least the other black sheep are an official member of their group and Henry was never recognized as an official member of his group.
@@hawani7 I think they were gonna add more members to Red Velvet too but "fans" pulled that stuff again. Look at the hate Yeri got when she joined.
Not to mention that treated Kyuhyun like that too at first because he got added after SJ debuted as 12 members. They treated him like dirt and only "forgave" him after that terrible accident where he almost died. Smdh
Not just Henry, Zhoumi too. That's why they weren't made official members because of K-'Elf'. Henry left SM, and its SM's and K-'Elf's lost. Zhoumi remained in SM and is aware his talent is being wasted, but he stayed ONLY for SuJu. He hopes that SJ-M will have a comback one day, but as much as it hurts to say, that subunit hasn't been active in a while ): he deserves better. I swear Korean fans act like they own SJ just because they purchase the most.
The fact that most of the people in this video were from SM says a lot about the company.
exactly they need to get there flipping act together r they stupid or what putting so much talent to waste
@Arwa Boussayri it doesn’t matter how many groups they have. If they can’t handle that many groups then stop churning out more. Its disturbing how their mistreatment is an on going cycle. They obviously need to change their business model from top down approach
Not “lee-hee”. It’s either you say “lee-hai” or “ee-hai”.
Yeah. It's understandable however, which is why you need to look up the Hangul. In other words, when in doubt, search up the Hangul.
This bothers me so much!
Lee hi on Begin Again is gold
lord i thought i was trippin 😭 i was so confused when she said that
@@denisetovias122 i mean... if theyre going to make videos like a news source, the minimal amount of research can be done to find out how to pronounce a name. Awards show say the names often enough, and this is supposed to be an informative channel, not a reactor channel discovering an artist for the first time.
KRIS IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PERSON IN CHINA
No Luhan actually is
can i-exols stop embarrasing yourselves? The chinaline is not even close to yi yangqianxi's popularity lmao pls google tfboys
@@tokyoscavenger2811 lol I don't even know who is that
Haha, sorry, is Jackson Wang. He is CEO too.
Uff why can't they treat them equally
People who makes more money generally gets treated better. That’s how show business works
Like it's not that hard honestly. It wouldn't kill them.
Actually whole fx are mistreated they deserved much better
ikr FX as a group never got proper promotion even during their debut 😭
Kris and winwin got the same treatment from sm cause they are Chinese . It's so sad . I don't know when it will stop .
And amber
Henry too
Tao and Luhan??
Unbelievably Winwin stayed for so long, the projects that have been rejected of SM and other mistreatment. He should be a world star already, brighter than now, but SM sucks. I am just thankful Winwin is so patient, but I wouldn't be surprised if he left.
Lay too
I wish all the above idols get best in their career
me too
Chanwoo bullied? Chanwoo is such a savage you can't even imagine and Hanbin loves him so much. The mistreatment Chanwoo has to go through is that he gets no acting gigs even after being a child actor, such as playing the role of little Lee Minho. he has done no acting in the past 7 years
Got7 as a whole, they are mistreated by JYP alot, they dont premote them like they should, you should make a video about them :o
I so agree with you, they deserved the world with those talents
For me I think its not mistreating ( in my opinion) JYP agreed the shopee and jackson as a brand ambassador ( i think it was that) so I think he is just to busy
The way mark had to post the official promo photos because no one was posting them on the official got7 or jyp accounts....
@@gabriellemartin6540 right, poor bbys 😔 even mark said “im not mark tuan im Manager Tuan” 💀
Whilst Got7 isnt promoted as much, I definitely think Day6 was done way more dirty. Day6 was barely promoted because they were too busy promoting Got7. Then Got7 was suddenly dropped once Twice started becoming more popular than them.
Amber deserved SO MUCH MORE!!! When I discovered f(x), SHE caught my eye because of how different she was. She was literally different then every other girl. She deserved the best.
the fact that f(x) as a whole was ignored asf was so sad,,,, they deserved more....
Ikr???
Amber is my queen!!
Chanwoo being bullied? BRUH HE'S A SAVAGE MAKNAE HE'S THE ONE WHO'S BULLYING HIS HYUNGS HAHAHAH
exactly!
Thank you! Yes he deserves more singing time, I agree, but boy is doing ok otherwise
yeah hence the nickname 'maknae on top' this vid is so misleading
He's maknae on top. Haha
This is so true. Only REAL FANS know this. This video is so misleading
Istg CL gets dragged for nothing. She literally did the most and got the nothing to show for it.
Leehi- was also done dirty by YG, they actually stifled her so much.
Winwin deserves the world I feel sorry for him
I'm so scared that Winwin will leave NCT If that day come I will cry but I will 100% support him and support whatever he's doing in China.
Yep Me too
Like Doyoung once said “We all promised not to leave Nct until we disband”
@@Polar-pj3zp sad that this promise broke 4 times T.T
Lucas, Sungchan, Shotaro, the new member Jungmin who was supposed to debut with NCT's new Subunit 😭😭💔💔
"Yet don't you think that the number of 12 members is too large for a group?"
*Tell that to SM Entertainment and NCT*
They can also tell that to Morning Musume. and AKB48.
@@Vinyltechnician Yeah but we're talking about K-Pop here. No offence💖
@ΦMusicΦ ΦSoulΦ *Loona* has the same amount of members as *EXO,* that's why I didn't include them. I didn't include *Seventeen* either because they (officially) have 13 members, while *NCT* can add new members and will be very hard for new *NCTzens/Czennies* to remember their names.
@ΦMusicΦ ΦSoulΦ Okie~ It's alrwight🥺
the audacity to say chanwoo was bullied by hanbin over one out of context video when chanwoo himself cleared it all up and said they were all close to each other like a family... the need for clout is real
exactlyyy
IFKR! THIS BEHAVIOUR IS CALLED PLAIN IGNORANCE.....I watched this video after seeing Chanwoo on the thumbnail, only to realise they are spreading false rumours about ikon and its' members.
@@KR-bd1qk omggg same! I clicked for chanwoo
@@gloriakkim_ Wooaahh and i thought that probably i am the only one 😂. Same Right! I really adore him
Even if.... there’s a limit to physical contact of other pple... just because they are close doesn’t mean they are allowed to violate someone no matter who they are to you. The company might have even told him to do that. If his your bias well sorry ( not sorry ) but that’s just plain out the truth. That’s my opinion but decisions are not meant to be made through emotional attachment !!!!
Just a clarification, your facts were wrong, iKON never bullied Chanwoo, instead he is the maknae on top, so pls check your facts before giving it out and caused misconception
B.I violently hited Chanwoo?? What!? You just took the scene out of context and twisted it!!!Everybody who watched the reality show and not only it but all the shows with IKON know perfectly well that IKON is the friendliest guys. Even PSY had personally said that IKON is a group that has the best relationships with each other among all the other groups he knows! Even Chanwoo himself said that B.I is a hyung(older member) he wants to care about. And also in that reality show B.I said that "Chanwoo is the nicest boy in the world". So stop talking nonsense!
Exactly. I feel like some of the points in this video were researched poorly.
It's obvious from the fact that the narrator isn't even pronouncing some of the idols names correctly. I've watched a couple videos and it's always the same.
didn't chanwoo talk about this situation and say that fans misunderstood it all? it was just a friendly hit
@@bonsbbyx I haven't heard about it but it was rather clear that they were just joking. And it's normal for boys to hit each other jokingly.
@@vickyh1823 most of it are just weird twitter rumors claimed as fact, really bad video, top that with mispronouncing names, and confusing positions, and even a blatant misunderstanding of timelines and a mistranslation it all adds up to probably being a specific standom making a video to sow discord in other fandoms. I think we all know what standom :p
This Winwin condition is super disappointing. As some point, I feel like crying for him when he isn't given the minimum screen time he deserves. I really don't understand what SM wants to do with him.
i think its time for him to leave sm honestly i don't think he can show his full potential under their wings i know winwin gets more lines in wayv than when he was in 127 but still that is not enough besides being a visual he does not have a particular role in the group is he a vocalist or a dancer or a rapper we all know that he is a great dancer for me i think he has better dancing ability than mark yuta and even taeyong if he had been at any other company then they would have surely used his great dancing abilities and put him at the center in most parts of their choreo so i think the conclusion is winwin has the potential to be a mega star if he leaves sm and finds a better agency just like kris wu
@@shashwotmarsani8417 it's very sad that you're not wrong! Winwin is so popular out there, even after being ignored for so many years by SM. Think what he could do, if he was given the chance. SM played bad with him! Very bad!
CHANWOO IS IKON'S "MAKNAE ON TOP".His Hyungs love him like Family.
Hyoyeon is soo pretty tho, those rats are totally blind
She is my bias too and i find her reaaaaaaaalllyyyyyy attractive
SONE HEART ❤️❤️❤️
Yaass and to be honest if I was asked to rate snsd according to their visuals Tayeon would be last but meh that's just my opinion
❤️✨
Please be careful with your word, Hyoyeon still part of SNSD. SNSD never disband.
"Formerly" yeah that's what I've noticed too😔
Whoever made this didnt even research well. Keeps pronouncing names wrong too. 🙄
@Kokichi wants your Location do you know what disbandment means
@Kokichi wants your Location they didn't officially disband, none of the SM groups but a difference is that all SNSD members are currently promoting solo. They are still a group.
Disbanding ≠ Not being together anymore. Ps, learn some manners.
@Kokichi wants your Location hahaha,bodonya hang ni. snsd is still a group. they still active promoting their solo songs
I saw Chanwoo, I click. I think other fans misunderstood that issue. Members love Chan so much. And Bruh, YG needs to bring back Actor Chanwoo🙄 he deserve it and he really wanted to act again🥺
Correction, she's not a FORMER SNSD member. She's still a member of SNSD.
It saddens me how many people think SNSD disbanded just because some of members the left the company. SNSD said many times they're still together. Hyoyeon herself is even still with SM lol.
And when she shows pictures of the five remaining SNSD there's Yuri twice and no Hyoyeon.
This video was a suck 😭
Technically this new group doesn't even call themselves SNSD/Girls Generation. They go by Oh!GG.
@@bitch8205 tbh SM isn't gonna let the SNSD 9, SJ15, etc. Ever share a stage unless all members are under SMs thumb.
Okay being an iKONIC I would like to put some light on Chanwoo. First of all each member adores Chan, he is considered maknae on top. For people who don't know relationship between the members kindly don't interpret things. I do admit that he gets less lines but it was also not easy for leader B.I to do so. The voice has to suit with the melody and vibe of the songs, they've openly spoken about it in weekly idol. Somewhere down the line Chanwoo himself knows he still needs to improve as compared to the other members. iKON is a very free spirited idol group who do not seriously follow hyung and maknae kind of tradition, they are more of friends..all 7 of them despite of their age gaps. Once again Chan was never ever mistreated... not even once.
Ye ikr
THANK YOU FOR VOICING THIS! Idk..this video makes the members look bad..really
An Ikonic n agree with this!
and they can be really playful sometimes so that “hit” isn’t really violent, Hanbin was just playing 😭
yeah I was confused when she said Ikon.....it is obvious they do this kind of vids without a proper research just for the views
#SMtown is doing the same thing to #YUTA as they did to Chris from EXO.. they know exactly what they're doing. #YutaDeservesBetter
Kris*
'kris
Kris*
What’s going on with Yuta:(
@@masochisticdoll SM did him dirty mostly between fall and the tail end of 2021. Barely any lines and no screen time. It kept happening over and over til Yutezens banned together and threatened to boycott. It literally appears as though SM has finally taken Yuta off of punishment. It was great seeing him in a JCC with Johnny getting his nails done. Yuta was NOW acting his charming cheerful self again.
ok im a winwin stan and i just can’t with sm anymore. i feel like crying so hard, he’s one of the original members but sungchan and shotaro still have more lines than him. he’s gone through so much, remember nct life in seoul, he teared up while saying he felt horrible because he was awkward with taeyong and yuta because he couldn’t speak korean properly back then. sicheng says that he doesn’t show his emotions to anyone and he’s called himself ugly a few times. i don’t wanna jump to conclusions but i feel like winwin’s been going through something for the past few years and he needs so much support rn. lee sooman travelled to china nine times to recruit him so why can’t he treat him well? in 90’s love, sicheng was the leader of the unit but got three seconds of screentime, and there was that video of him crying recently (im still not sure if he was crying, we’ll never know) can we just all show sicheng the love he deserves
I agree!!!! Winwin is much senior than shotaro and sungchan but still they got more lines and screen time(don't take it wrong I love both of them)and he's even the freakin leader and if he wanted he could be much popular in China but still he chose to be with SM ..........idk what's inside the mind of SM
P.s this is just my opinion and sorry for my English (if it is wrong somewhere
I mean I just don't know what in the world sm is thinking ? Can't they see his popularity , talent and his passion on what he wants to do . As someone who has watched him since the very beginning , it just hurts a lot .
@@dinathapa5054 I agree....he deserves the world:(......
I don't see why Winwin should get more lines. He should get more dance parts, though.
@@RVQuesada yeah.....he is a professional dancer but did you see in 90's love he literally just got to harmonize with the members and his part in song is just like 10 or smth seconds and the dinosaurs got more screen time......
This what hurts me most literally all of them mentioned are so talented but the company don't know to manage them and use their talent 🙄
About the heechul case, he suffered an accident some years ago and his leg hurts while he's performing, that's why he doesn't have so many lines bcs he can't dance the hole dance, so they always put him at the end so he doesn't have to dance a lot:(
But always manages to own those few secs 💙
And if some people bring the 'Devil' song as for example that Heechul is not suffered because he danced all the way, that song performance wasn't really that explosive and high power of a performance as another song 'Black Suit' for example.
The thing is heechul is vocalist and rapper and as all of us know suju has lots of members including 3 of the best main vocalists in kpop and eunhyuk as main rapper and a lot of lead vocals and lead rappers so it's kind of natural for him to get short lines in songs. It always happens for bigger groups , you know? It happenned for shindong too. And sehun of exo has the same situation. It often happens in groups with more than 7 or 8 members. And in recent years he couldn't attend promotions because of his leg injury so it was natural to give him less lines. I don't think sm was mistreating him intentionally. Actually he has had lots of opportunities to shine in lots of different varitey shows. It's obvious that he is so talented as a comedian but if sm didn't manage him well , he might not be able to be this active on tv as a person starting off as an idol.
Yeah that's what i thought too. It was bc of the accident that's why he's not performing on stage anymore.
We shan’t forget about Daisy from Momoland and how horribly she was treated by the company
people just hate momoland so much for no reason
Ot9 became into ot6 😔
Is shan't even a word :O
@@siren7561 yep! It’s an abbreviation of shall not
@@siren7561 Yes.
actually kris was the one who drew the attention of most international fans
I became interested in exo and started stanning exo because of kris😭❤
I miss him a lottt
ot12 forever
Me too
It's tao for me... It's always foreign members who attract us international fan
Same!!! I saw one of his iconic blonde hair, white shirt going around the internet and had to check him out, therefore leading me to be an EXO-L till this day. My heart broke when he left, then luhan, who was one of my ult bias as well. And then Tao. Omg I didn’t like 2014-2015.
no, it’s ot9. i don’t think the formal members would like that you’re still representing them as EXO members. They left EXO because they were mistreated, so please represent them as SOLO artists :)
He's my first K-pop bias...
0:37 "dont you think that the number of 12 members is too large for a group"
CARATS LEFT THE CHAT
EXO-Ls held the door for them as they left too
nctzens 🏃🏽♀️💨
AKB48 fans laughing at them with 600++ members 👁👄👁
@@Vivisheyislonger is it real tht akb48 had tht 600+ members ? omooo this is crazy insane tho 😂😂
@@nurulsyuhada4187 Yeah, AKB48 themselves with their sisters group overseas 😂
Ok so so basically we can say that yg , sm and jyp are the most unequally and mistreateing idol company 🙄 that's so true bro if you agree than 👇👍😂cause I surely do bruh
Yes. I love their artists, but the companies are absolute shit. Especially yg. Blackpink had to wait 4 years for a complete studio album. They have minimum songs. They r so mistreated, especially jisoo. They made rosé change her voice. They're still not promoting rosé's solo. Jennie gets so much hate for being the privileged member. They lock the girls up in a dungeon. They don't let them attend award shows. They cant drink. They cant drive. They cant go anywhere without their manager. They don't have a say in their clothes. They cant even talk to other boys in their agency. Am I the only one who thinks these are too much?
@@srilakshmi3637 yah like that's just too much like I feel bad for 2NE1 yg shouldn't have disbanded them if they couldn't take good care of bp too , like yg could have kept two girl group cuz like it's not like he doesn't have money they give him too much but he doesn't want to use it on the one's who actually made him that much money
@@srilakshmi3637 the rules for Blackpink have been eased by YG. This is because, they have enough 5 years for YG strict rules. All of them already drinking. Rose like to drink beer, Jennie and all BP members like to drink makgeolli (Korean traditional strong alcohol). They also can interact with YG boys in public too. Because in YG (idk in another company) "strict rules" only need to practice by idols for 5/6 years( this is what Dara said in one of variety show). After that, you're free to do whatever you want. But seems like for 3gen group. Like, Ikon,winner and BP. They can't drive. Maybe driving is part of strict rules that they(YG) can give any permission to do that.
@@pakhisharma8231 YG really didn't want to disband 2NE1. Yang Hyun Suk was the only one who disagree to disband 2NE1. The only ones who disagree are the shareholders. It was a tough fight for him, himself vs Shareholders. Since the majority wants to disband 2NE1, he has no choice.
@@icarly5895 ya, I love BP n all but really big bang n 2ne1 were the actual revolution, the actual legends, the actual king n queen of kpop
Kpop agencies: we want multitalented idols
Also them: *ignore*
It’s always SM. I don’t understand why the idols get mistreated like this. They should be treated equally.
lol it’s def not just sm, cube is right there w them too
JYP is just as bad.
@@catzeyez12 exactly, the big 3, in general, are just bad all around.
Henry Lau is also an actor now too.
Notice how half of these people are from SM... SM you need to step up your game!!
Where is Ailee tho? I heard rumors that even after she left her company they were blocking her from music shows etc. Can anyone shed some light on the situation for me?
Kris was and is still the most perfect looking kpop male idol to ever exist. At least for me. 😊
Same😃
Same ^^
I’m glad Lee Hi is now with AOMG
yeah but she wasnt mistreated if you follow lee hi you should know
@@bubblezandapplez5244 I didnt say she was. I’m just saying AOMG is a really good company
"Hyoyeon, Formerly of SNSD" SNSD is a still a group, Hyoyeon is still a member of SNSD.
Shindong is ignored more than Heechul.
Tbh shindong was promoted properly but he has been problematic
@@sunflower-vz4du No he doesn’t 🙄🙄🙄 if you read a thread without a proper source. Actually he had be wrong like every human being but he apologized and changed and yes there are reliable sources not like the ones from Twitter !!!
Furthermore that happen 10 years ago, and saying those things Without a reliable source is defamation and you know what ?? That’s a crime in every country in the earth, so you’re being the problematic here.
Shindong had made a lot of more good things for the industry and the idols who works in that field, but the people are so focused on reading false rumors and believing everything that they read in Twitter that they tent to forget that
Another thing Heechul isn’t being treated unfairly but there are some reasons why he doesn’t sing so much in the past
1. He had an error while singing in the early years and go bashed by the people and fans so badly that he lost his confidence.
2. He suffered from a serious depression. When Hangeng left the group, he doesn’t even eat and he was planing to leave that’s why he refused to sing more lines. He stayed because the members cared for him and always have an space for him whenever he is out of his room.
3. The accident he suffered in 2006 caused him several injuries and whiting the time it worsened so he decided not sing to much in the titles songs, so the members don’t have to suffer changing the choreography cause of him.
But he sings more in the others songs, besides the title song since 2014 in mamacita album when he recovered his confidence in singing
@@johysjofdj your source look fair but no need to be rude
@@nakuraitomi21 I can give some links if the people ask for it.
I’m sorry for being rude but fight for fairness about Shindong for years sometimes it’s tiring, plus he is really kind with some groups and help them but got nothing but hate from their fans.
And what I say is true, speaking about laws, talking about a person without a reliable source and just in base of rumors, and spreading them, can be taking as defamation and that is actually illegal and have penalties, in some countries you can go to jail for defamation, I’m just saying people like to point a finger to others without realizing that what they are doing is actually worse.
It’s Lee “hay” and on her recent interview, she said this “black ship thingy” annoys her. Stop looking down on her.
It annoyed me so much how she mispronounced her name. Blacksheep actually has a different meaning idk why they used this word.
High* would be a better way to put it.
@@kimbaphyung6207 im not sure about other asian country..but in my country black sheep in a family is define as a troublemaker person..the one that the family is not proud of and only burden the family or organization..but actually black sheep can be use in two different sets of circumstances..one is like what i stated before..the second one is black sheep can be define as a person who have give all their efforts and hardworks only to get ignored, mistreated and being use in the end..they used the second meaning of black sheep in this video..they not looking down at the idol in the list instead they shed light on the list of idol whose after all their hardworks and effort all these year in their respective company but only to get mistreated and ignored in return..its sad knowing that these idols had to go through that for a long period of time😓
@@khairulzainal8145 It only means the first one to me so it's not surprising if other people also take this that other way around. Specially without watching the whole vid. It has a lot of misinformation and assumptions too.
@@kimbaphyung6207 me too..i thought of the first definition too when i read the video title..i only understand what the title means after i finish the video..about the misinformation..i dont really know regarding the information since i only know what these idols had to go through from the video..the only idol in the video list that i knew was mistreated and ignored by the company is henry since he talked about all the mistreatment he had to faced while he in sm but im not sure in what program.
hyoyeon is not a FORMER member of snsd only Jessica is the former member.
SM might treat winwin bad but the nct members and nctzen all adore winwin so much
Chanwoo is never bullied. That's just boys playing rough and the over sensitive fans who (probably) never saw when teenage boys play. And in case the video-maker doesn't know, now, Chanwoo is a maknae on top aka he's the one "bullying" his hyungs...
Exactly, they hyungs always treated him well and helped him improve more.
Facts. Why she making this shit up
He got bulllied by ugly Hanbin and the god gave him what he deserved I'm glad 🤠💞💅🏻🥳🤸💞💟🤗💆🏻♀️💁🏻♀️🙏
True. Maybe she never watched any vid of iKON she just read some fakenews.
@@myGB113 it’s all about that 10 minute mark and clickbait title ;)
"don't you think 12 is too much for a group?" *Coughs in SVT*
Or *coughs in NCT*
*Coughs in Treasure*
Akb48 be like
Ok!!
@@ethnichip4983 are they seriously 48?! But, they are a whole other story.
@@essaishaaq1218 it's more than you could even expect lol. akb48 are divided into 5 units, and each subunits have over 20 members, they use this "graduate" concept, which means the lineup often changes. these whole thing also applies to their other sister groups like hkt48, ske48, and the list goes on
In EXO Kris, Tao, Luhan and Lay were just back up dancers. Like honestly you train for so long just to get 3 seconds in a title song....
Luhan got more lines than kai, sehun and xiumin.
Can I say something about Heechul? He had a car accident that results to him having problem in his leg which resulted to him to have a little part in suju's songs, the company is worried about his condition that's why until now he has still little amount of parts, and their dances are not that hard because of heechul's condition (tho i'm not pertaining that heechul's condition is the only problem).
I'm still heartbroken over JYPE forcing Jae to take Jaesix down -;-
I remember during that era vlogging was the way Jae entertain himself from work, he has said that a few times. I also remember many fans joked around saying "jaesix season 2 file corrupted" when he didn't release any vlog though he closed the first season saying there would be more fun stuff the next season. Years later, uh oh we know the reason
What about eaJ..this is his own thing, right?
@@Montiny1117 yes, he has said that eaJ is his side project/passion project, his venture into music alone
yeah, and now they made him shut down his twitch account too. Like whatever he finds peace in, they legit snatch it from him-_-
lee hee lmfao its pronounced "lee high" or lee ha-i .....이하이
SM really doesn’t seem to care about there Chinese members, I hope the same doesn’t happen to ningning of Aespa.
I have such an inner struggle when it comes to SM artists. They are all SO talented and deserve the world but I hate supporting the company.
“Lee Hee” -> 이 하이 -> Ee Hai -> “Lee Hai” (Hi as in “high” or hello, “hi”!) Lee Hi
Also, breathe not breath TT
I was actually pissed when they pronounced her name wrong
I was so confused... I knew about Lee Hi and I was just like... wait a fucking minute m.... Is it not hi like High? I was just like I know i pronounce things wrong all the time but does she not go by Lee hi? Who is Lee hee?
@@Ghostmother25 no you were right this person high while doing the vid
@@TryinBin8889 lol
I really hope Winwin leaves SM. I hope he makes it big in China.
if he does leave, i just know he’s gonna be a big artist like he already is but am just doesn’t wanna show it
I wish he get the chance to shine more, but I'm not ready seeing SM force NCT to forget his existence if he leave
@@whatever_voyez5123 but for his own career and betterment he should leave now i think anyone who knows about him and nct should have realised by now that he is never going to get the love and attention he deserve from sm he is just being kept for his handsome face i think he is such a nice human being because if same thing had happened to most of the people they would have left the company a lot earlier i think the only reason he is in the company is because his members love him a lot unlike sm but its high time now i think it has come to a point of either u make or break situation for winwin
Oh no, please. I know this is unfair, but it will hurt my heart and of course the nct members hearts (they love Winwin so much). I think SM will treat Winwin better if we show a big support for him. Big support= big money. SM like money. That's it.
If winwin will leave SM while the contract isn't finished yet then he will be sued like what happened to KrisHanTao. He can leave the company after the expiration of the contract just like how snsd and f(x) members did.
Hyoyeon - dessert is my favourite song this year ; I'm happy that at least now she is recognised
Hello, could you do another list with GOT7's maknae Yugyeom on it? JYPE doesn't treat him well either. He gets decent lines on songs and performances but JYPE blocked him from having solo schedules, they don't let him open his own YT channel and he's been saying he felt empty doing nothing these past months. He only has schedules when GOT7 comes back with an album, Yugyeom is not promoted as much as other members either. JYPE only gives him a chance once in a blue moon. He deserves so much than empty schedules 🙏🏼
JYPE mistreats Day6's Jae too :(
Ik he has a model figure and even learned modeling but there no cfs unless as a got7....I love all of them but he was the one that attracted me at first and he is still my bias now but it hurts my heart seeing him neglected with that much talent and visual😭😭😭
YG treat 2ne1 soo bad... Especially Minzy I love YG artists and music..... But i hate the company and i Miss B.I and 2ne1 i really hate YG because of 2ne1 and B.I but i love their musics
1:51 Hyoyeon was the main reason for me loving SNSD. I thought she was the cutest thing. I did notice that she often got over shadowed but still rooted for her.
Dong Si Cheng deserves THE WHOLE UNIVERSE✨
I hate SM for treating winwin this way.
Notice how majority of artists on this list are from SM?
The funniest part about Hyoyeon situation is that even being the last popular member, she's always releasing the most iconic and energetic songs. She's an amazing artist and i respect her so much because even with just a little screen time or one line in the songs, she can show how powerful she is.
Winwin situation is kinda different, he's one of the most popular chinese members from nct, and SM made a hell in his life when he was in china, just for him to join the company as a trainee, debuting him with just months, he couldnt even speak korean, and now, they treat him like he's nothing. Me as a nctzen, would prefer see him going on a solo career in china, than being under SM management.
CL case is so sad, because YG used her like a way to get closer of international artist, and get features with other YG artists.
Sis... justy dont. You basically just did some "research" cuz some things u did are bs. Even the names of some of these idols! Its better if u just dont talk about this subject if u dont even know them. The way u pronounce Lee Hi's name, the way u talk about Chanwoo and Ikon. CL.. I aint gonna talk about that. In YG, the only girl who was a real black sheeo was Minzy, she never did anything solo. Everything she did ewas together with the other members. Nothing against CL, but she stayed in company for 3 years after not even having gigs for 2 year prior. She we, her fans, told her to leave.
i've been looking for a comment like this! cl especially was basically treated as the female g-dragon, it was only after she left to sign with Scooter Braun in America that YG put her on hold, but she's basically kpop royalty. minzy was the real blacksheep of 2ne1.
Honestly the whole of 2NE1 was so disrespected. Bom's "scandal" wasn't even bad and YG essentially ended her career. He ended Minzy by not allowing her anything outside the group. Dara was stuck just floating in other activities because YG was destroying 2NE1. He promised up and down to CL a bunch of BS to get her to stay, then did to her what he did to Minzy in the end and shelfed her.
EXACTLY!! I got so triggered at how she was pronouncing their names🙄
Also the fact that heechul is in this for receiving few lines because he literally can't dance anymore. Heechul is disabled. His doctor ordered him not to dance with super junior or else he can't walk anymore.
@@kaily9456 Omg yes! Was looking for someone that has a fucking brain... It just takes a few minutes to search his name up and look at the Wikipedia article of heechul, see, that he had the car accident and since then his lines and screen time dropped because OF VERY FUCKING OBVIOUS REASONS. You could take the date of the accident and the music and album releases after that accident and you can see, that he got less and less lines. Heechul was one of the main dancers in the beginning and had a decent amount of lines in the early time of Suju. Heechul was my very first Kpop bias and I sincerely love him and Suju, but I'm happy that for once, Sm isn't that much of a shit company and doesn't force heechul to dance, when he can't anymore, because of the accident... Ugh I'm. So. Pissed. Off. This girl literally has this channel and videos for views and money...
Its makes me sad when Kris Wu and Winwin is both my bias.
So proud of Hyoyeon. For me she's very charismatic.
I feel like you may have twisted Chanwoo and his story with IKON. It is true that at first Chanwoo and Hanbin didn’t really get along but they are amazing friends after the reality show. The members don’t bully Chanwoo and their love for one another is very pure. Is also want to say that Chanwoo doesn’t get many lines because he was the member who trained the least. He was added into the lineup last minute and had about a year to train. He is my bias and I would love to hear him sing more in their older songs but do understand that the other members trained longer and are more stable. Chanwoo is beginning to have more lines and their b-side song distribution allows Chanwoo to sing more.
YGE didn't deserved Jung Chanwoo😭
SME didn't deserved Winwin. 😭
They don't even let sicheng and chanwoo act and sing!!! They are such talented idols but they keep hiding this gems!!!!! 🤬
Agree
Agree too
Henry’s so talented, he deserves better
why do companies put 9+ members in a group if they wont provide for them?? its just a waste of time for both the idol and company....
they should've just debut that artist solo.
But look at seventeen line distribution it's so fair always
Maybe that's because they write their own songs