My memories of this song go back to 1963-64 in Austin, TX. I was a grad student, and my wife of less than one year and I attended a 'scramble-seating' concert by the Trio in the city auditorium. We took the newspaper and ran to the front row when the doors opened and read the newspaper in the hour or more before the show started. The reason I remember this song is the Trio muffed the words and had to start over. My wife mention that many times over the years. She passed away in 2014 from colon cancer. Cheers, Stan
What an awesome performance. To all of those folk purist snobs who diss the KT, I don't give a crap about political messages, social comment or Dylanesque hipness . I'm into the MUSIC. Musicanship, great voices, harmony, showmanship. These guys had it in spades and as evidenced by this clip, Bob Shane had one of the truly great voices of our time. So underrated because these guys decided that they wanted to make a good living at this.
The Kingston Trio was one of my favorite groups back in the day. From The Hungry I was their first album that I heard and just loved it, played it so many time the flip side was bleeding through....lol.
The version on the "Hungry I" album is one of my favorite songs of all times. I used to have a buddy and he and I would play KT music and sing these songs. This one was so haunting and captivating. Thanks to the KT for doing Maria and the endless volume of other great music.
I have always loved this song, even back when I was a kid. I saw "Paint Your Wagon" when it came out, but the rendition of "Maria: in the movie doesn't even come close to this rendition. I love this version!
First Album my brother had with his new Stereo record player! The 3 brothers use to sit around and sing along with the Kinston Trio! I will cherish the Memories!
Huge fan of the Harve Presnell version in PAINT YOUR WAGON but this is my favourite version I think...great gravelly lead vocal...stunning arrangement....as we say in England: 'the dog's bollocks!'
As always, the learned explanations delight me nearly as much as the music which formed most of my [and my friends' and family's] repertoire for decades.
THE KINGSTON TRIO 8-time Nominees, 3-time Grammy winners, including 2011 Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award Billboard Awards: Best New Singing Group Vocal Group Hall of Fame, Hit Parade Hall of Fame, Library of Congress: Historical Recordings (Tom Dooley) Charted Hits: Tom Dooley, MTA (He’ll Never Return), Where Have All The Flowers Gone, Greenback Dollar, This Land Is Your Land, etc.
Another version worth hearing: the Smothers Brother. If the comedic intro before the song isn't your thing, jump to the 2 brothers singing the song itself . Beautiful!
Heard this song today for the 1st time on a local independent radio station. 89.3 WRDV Hatboro, Pa. 👍🏻 Sounds like a song off that George Clooney movie the Descendants sndtrk
AMEN, 10,000 times! Among the best of the best; they cared about the MUSIC, which did often carry a message -- but their message was music, in many forms and incarnations -- they modeled a HEALTHY version of "inclusive."
The original Kingston Trio that I first listened to as a high school senior (1961) were the biggest thing around in their genre of musical sound. In short, they were great! There was none of this political crap back then and people listened to and enjoyed music for its own sake. The original Kingston Trio were innovators and a preclude of things to come throughout the '60's. I saw them perform at "The Hungry I" in San Francisco after I graduated and they were spectacular!
Many years ago, back in '59, when I was a student at Johns Hopkins and a Phi Sig, I had a guitar, and I knew about seven or eight chords. I had a fond affection for the Kingston Trio, amongst the folk groups of the day. One of their songs was Mariah and I adopted it as my theme song. (Sorry, folks, but that's how I always spelled it.) I must have sung it in the "House" and out hundreds of times...and my Goucher sweetheart of those days, Helen, sometimes would join me in a duet of the song.
Hi Dave, I have been enjoying you Kingston Trio post. When I hear "Scotch and Soda" and they Call the Wind Maria, I think of different performers. I forgot just how good the Kingston Trio did them.
"Where Have All the Flowers Gone?" was THE big song in '62 and '63. I'm not sure it was ever released as a single, unless it was the B side of "Flowers." But in any event, it would have been in "Flowers"'s shadow.
^_^ This makes me smile. My dad would sing this to me as a little girl. I was named after my great grandmother who spelled it Maria. But my mom spelled it with an "h" so people wouldn't call me Ma-ree-a (Maria) :P
I fell in love with the Kingston Trio in 1959 w/Dave Guard. I was 14/15 when they reformed w/John Stewart. So I've always been torn--which was better? Listening to this version of Maria makes me "angry"...this song belongs in the Guard repertoire, From the Hungry I.....funny. I prefer the original. Wow.
I totally agree ,Bob,Nick and Dave, were the best.When I was talking to Bob in "78" he said Dave had a brain tumor back in 66. I saw that John was scheduled the next week. I asked if that was your John, He said he's a fucking punk rocker now. I just laughed this was right after John came out with Gold which I thought it was a good song
Ta. Will have a listen to the Broadway version. Never heard it. There was a great You Tube montage of Mariah Carey photos growing up to the Kingston Trio version but think it was taken off due to copyright probs...shame.
I agree with you on the KT live albums...Hungry 'i' is by far the best (although quite a bit of it was recorded in the studio, "Gue, Gue" most noticeably), but other than the unfortunate inclusion of "Tom Dooley," I believe that their second Hungry 'i' album, "Back in Town," is unjustly panned--I vote for it as the finest live document of the Stewart-era Trio. "Isle in the Water," "The World I Used to Know," "Ah, Woe, Ah, Me," and "Ann"--they might have been a little "relaxed," but still FUN!
I would have sworn on the Hungry i album that I read Nick Reynolds sang the lead and played percussion on this song at that show. Am I remembering this wrong?
Oh yes, Summers in the park with a gal named Susie....Minneapolis Minnesota 1959 a broken cherry and memories beyond speaking.... darn good memories of the wind...
Isn't "Maria" usually pronounced "Mar-ee-a"? Like a form of "Mary"? I've never seen "Mariah" or "Myriah" spelled this way. But I don't see why it couldn't be I guess. And it does mean wind, they aren't making that up, IIRC.
JD was a member of the Mitchell Trio after Chad Mitchell left, never of the Kingston Trio. And there's no typo here at all. It amazes me with a resource like Google handy that many comments like that go unchecked. Lerner and Loewe wrote "Maria" with no H and pronounced it as the English did long ago as "Ma-RYE-uh". - Jim Moran, real name of CompVid101
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Huh? If you are talking about the term "goldurn," that's exactly the way it was written by Lerner and Loewe in 1951. Probably a regional variation of "gosh darn." Anyway, I have the sheet music to prove it, and I'd be glad to send you a copy -- except that would be illegal. By the way, if the Trio "vulgarized" it, as you say, what do you think the original lyric was? Best wishes, Arthur
It's not "folk music." "They Call the Wind Maria" is an American popular song with lyrics written by Alan J. Lerner and music by Frederick Loewe for their 1951 Broadway musical, Paint Your Wagon, which is set in the California Gold Rush.
Nope. Writers Lerner and Loewe wrote it with the 19th century English spelling ‘Maria’ but pronounced as here ‘ma-RYE-uh.’ The Wikipedia article on the song explains this.
I saw this 2nd generation in Colorado. The original Kingston member was 70 years old and out of wind from the thin air....they are talented, but not creative.
I saw them in 60 Dave Guard had left recently and John Stewart worked out real well-they introduced me to folk so then Weavers and Pete Seegar, though backwards progression, in a couple years, well... But I agree more talented than creative, though Stewart brought them to another level.
Bob Shane - R.I.P. & thanks for keeping the Trio going for 60+ years.
They were fantastic even though I was a very young kid when I heard them I never could forget them.
Absolutely! ❤
Great song, fabulous group. Never to be forgotten!
I have always been a big fan of the KIngston Trio. This is a great version of this classic tune.
My memories of this song go back to 1963-64 in Austin, TX. I was a grad student, and my wife of less than one year and I attended a 'scramble-seating' concert by the Trio in the city auditorium. We took the newspaper and ran to the front row when the doors opened and read the newspaper in the hour or more before the show started. The reason I remember this song is the Trio muffed the words and had to start over. My wife mention that many times over the years. She passed away in 2014 from colon cancer. Cheers, Stan
This is such a masterful performance! Going from major to minor....and then switching up the tempos!!! WOW!
What an awesome performance. To all of those folk purist snobs who diss the KT, I don't give a crap about political messages, social comment or Dylanesque hipness . I'm into the MUSIC. Musicanship, great voices, harmony, showmanship. These guys had it in spades and as evidenced by this clip, Bob Shane had one of the truly great voices of our time. So underrated because these guys decided that they wanted to make a good living at this.
ed1cat1 I thank them for that ❤️❤️
Bob Shane sang this song the best! I was lucky to hear him 1979 Florida. He was the voice of KT!
The Kingston Trio was one of my favorite groups back in the day. From The Hungry I was their first album that I heard and just loved it, played it so many time the flip side was bleeding through....lol.
The version on the "Hungry I" album is one of my favorite songs of all times. I used to have a buddy and he and I would play KT music and sing these songs. This one was so haunting and captivating. Thanks to the KT for doing Maria and the endless volume of other great music.
Hungry I was a great album! I treasure it.
Absolutely just got better with age. Great song, great music, great voices.
I have always loved this song, even back when I was a kid. I saw "Paint Your Wagon" when it came out, but the rendition of "Maria: in the movie doesn't even come close to this rendition. I love this version!
First Album my brother had with his new Stereo record player!
The 3 brothers use to sit around and sing along with the Kinston Trio!
I will cherish the Memories!
So did an entire family, who lived in Fort Worth, later in Burleson, at the time...
i have been listening to the kingston trio since they came out with tom dooley..
John Stewart's album California Bloodlines is one of my all time favorites. So well written and performed. I've owned it since it first came out.
No one better than the Kingston Trio.
Huge fan of the Harve Presnell version in PAINT YOUR WAGON but this is my favourite version I think...great gravelly lead vocal...stunning arrangement....as we say in England: 'the dog's bollocks!'
As always, the learned explanations delight me nearly as much as the music which formed most of my [and my friends' and family's] repertoire for decades.
This is a song I feel very strong for!
As always, I find the exposition as satisfying as the music itself. Thank you!
THE KINGSTON TRIO 8-time Nominees, 3-time Grammy winners, including 2011 Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award
Billboard Awards: Best New Singing Group
Vocal Group Hall of Fame, Hit Parade Hall of Fame, Library of Congress: Historical Recordings (Tom Dooley)
Charted Hits: Tom Dooley, MTA (He’ll Never Return), Where Have All The Flowers Gone, Greenback Dollar, This Land Is Your Land, etc.
Good group always was and always will be!🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🐮
Another version worth hearing: the Smothers Brother. If the comedic intro before the song isn't your thing, jump to the 2 brothers singing the song itself . Beautiful!
Absolutely correct...the Smothers Brothers version is fantastic!
Yes , a great version think this is one of the few they played straight
This is, by far, the best version of this song.
Watch the "Paint Your Wagon" movie.
I loved this, but by far my favorite singer to do this was Frankie Laine.
The version from The Hungary I is the best !
And by “best”, you mean “worst”, right?
Heard this song today for the 1st time on a local independent radio station. 89.3 WRDV Hatboro, Pa. 👍🏻 Sounds like a song off that George Clooney movie the Descendants sndtrk
AMEN, 10,000 times! Among the best of the best; they cared about the MUSIC, which did often carry a message -- but their message was music, in many forms and incarnations -- they modeled a HEALTHY version of "inclusive."
The original Kingston Trio that I first listened to as a high school senior (1961) were the biggest thing around in their genre of musical sound. In short, they were great! There was none of this political crap back then and people listened to and enjoyed music for its own sake. The original Kingston Trio were innovators and a preclude of things to come throughout the '60's.
I saw them perform at "The Hungry I" in San Francisco after I graduated and they were spectacular!
You mean "precursor" or "prelude," perhaps?
Jealous
Slame class so guress same age; and totally agree we listened to others but didn't have 'this political crap' to the extent we hve to endure today.
@@sonyahannah Clearly a TYPO, not a misspelling, "Miss Spelling". Surely you have better things to do, hmmm...?
Many years ago, back in '59, when I was a student at Johns Hopkins and a Phi Sig, I had a guitar, and I knew about seven or eight chords. I had a fond affection for the Kingston Trio, amongst the folk groups of the day. One of their songs was Mariah and I adopted it as my theme song. (Sorry, folks, but that's how I always spelled it.) I must have sung it in the "House" and out hundreds of times...and my Goucher sweetheart of those days, Helen, sometimes would join me in a duet of the song.
Made our lives perfect our hearts dance
Best version ever...
Took lots of work to get this old open reel to sound like this. Thanks to all who helped out!!
And an outstanding job you did of it, Triofan. Great album.
Happy new year!
Jim Moran
aka CompViid101
Hi Dave, I have been enjoying you Kingston Trio post. When I hear "Scotch and Soda" and they Call the Wind Maria, I think of different performers. I forgot just how good the Kingston Trio did them.
no one else can come close to the beautiful harmonies on this song that the Browns but thisone is interesting
Dear God Always Knows where we are!!!!!!!
Didn't know the Kingston Trio came out with this in '63. Kinna wonder. They did well, as they did with all the songs that they sang.
"Where Have All the Flowers Gone?" was THE big song in '62 and '63. I'm not sure it was ever released as a single, unless it was the B side of "Flowers." But in any event, it would have been in "Flowers"'s shadow.
i was named after this song :)
Very different from the Paint Your Wagon version with Clint Eastwood. Both awesome.
Check out the Smothers Brothers version.... Better. (IMO)
^_^ This makes me smile. My dad would sing this to me as a little girl. I was named after my great grandmother who spelled it Maria. But my mom spelled it with an "h" so people wouldn't call me Ma-ree-a (Maria) :P
I fell in love with the Kingston Trio in 1959 w/Dave Guard. I was 14/15 when they reformed w/John Stewart. So I've always been torn--which was better? Listening to this version of Maria makes me "angry"...this song belongs in the Guard repertoire, From the Hungry I.....funny. I prefer the original. Wow.
Donald Spaeth I just enjoy the Trio regardless of Guard or Stewart. Both were excellent.
I totally agree ,Bob,Nick and Dave, were the best.When I was talking to Bob in "78" he said Dave had a brain tumor back in 66. I saw that John was scheduled the next week. I asked if that was your John, He said he's a fucking punk rocker now. I just laughed this was right after John came out with Gold which I thought it was a good song
I prefer the original, too. But I do love the Kingston Trio.
John Stewart was never a punk rocker.
R*I*P*
Bob
Rip Bob Shane
My fathers favorite?
Ta. Will have a listen to the Broadway version. Never heard it. There was a great You Tube montage of Mariah Carey photos growing up to the Kingston Trio version but think it was taken off due to copyright probs...shame.
i like this lineup the best but that is just me
I agree with you on the KT live albums...Hungry 'i' is by far the best (although quite a bit of it was recorded in the studio, "Gue, Gue" most noticeably), but other than the unfortunate inclusion of "Tom Dooley," I believe that their second Hungry 'i' album, "Back in Town," is unjustly panned--I vote for it as the finest live document of the Stewart-era Trio. "Isle in the Water," "The World I Used to Know," "Ah, Woe, Ah, Me," and "Ann"--they might have been a little "relaxed," but still FUN!
I would have sworn on the Hungry i album that I read Nick Reynolds sang the lead and played percussion on this song at that show. Am I remembering this wrong?
Yup. Originally Shane/Guard. Here Shane/Stewart. Reynolds plays drums on both.
I always wondered why the writer spelled Mariah without the ‘h’.
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my late wife name and i miss her.
Frei wie der Wind
oh just enjoy the song.
Oh yes, Summers in the park with a gal named Susie....Minneapolis Minnesota 1959 a broken cherry and memories beyond speaking.... darn good memories of the wind...
Back in town was perhaps their finest album-outside of their second with John Stewart.
"Twitter" forever has us trapped on "The M.T.A." -I enjoy the wind of the times if it can be put to music and not politics.
Yes it is Mariah.
Lucky.
This is Haevn-sound
My late wife of 47 her frist was Marria
@csdenison Well, they couldn't very well call it "TESS," now, could they? I mean, that's rain. :D
Isn't "Maria" usually pronounced "Mar-ee-a"? Like a form of "Mary"? I've never seen "Mariah" or "Myriah" spelled this way. But I don't see why it couldn't be I guess. And it does mean wind, they aren't making that up, IIRC.
They call the wind Moira ....
Typo alert: Mariah, not Maria. And I liked the Trio better later when John Denver was a member:-)
JD was a member of the Mitchell Trio after Chad Mitchell left, never of the Kingston Trio.
And there's no typo here at all. It amazes me with a resource like Google handy that many comments like that go unchecked. Lerner and Loewe wrote "Maria" with no H and pronounced it as the English did long ago as "Ma-RYE-uh". -
Jim Moran, real name of CompVid101
Even the Wikipedia article gets it right and discusses spelling and pronunciation:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Call_the_Wind_Maria
googles robut is fuckin up
Niki Niki Tumbo No So Rumbo Uma Uma Gochi Gomma Gomma Guchi
Dr James William Hickman Smith MD PHD never died
His son David Teague Randolph Smith is with peace I AM that I Am IMHOTEP
2:07 - Note the vulgarization of the lyric. Would Alan Lerner have approved? Thumbs down.
Huh? If you are talking about the term "goldurn," that's exactly the way it was written by Lerner and Loewe in 1951. Probably a regional variation of "gosh darn." Anyway, I have the sheet music to prove it, and I'd be glad to send you a copy -- except that would be illegal. By the way, if the Trio "vulgarized" it, as you say, what do you think the original lyric was? Best wishes, Arthur
It's not Maria, it's Mariah
The change of tempo for the last verse does not do anything for this song. The actual recording was well thought out and easier to love.
like the cute chick with the wind machine that blows you away
this song predates the romantic cult known as the 'Church of Climatology.
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Don't seem the same w/o Dave Guard........
ftjax John Stewart was excellent.
+ftjax Exactly! They never sounded the same without Guard. The Kingston Trio changed drastically after he left; they never sounded that good again.
You must be joking!!
WHO calls the wind Maria? what are their names? where do they live? everyone calls the wind: wind. this is some kind of folk music lie.
It's not "folk music." "They Call the Wind Maria" is an American popular song with lyrics written by Alan J. Lerner and music by Frederick Loewe for their 1951 Broadway musical, Paint Your Wagon, which is set in the California Gold Rush.
Oh, get over it! It is only a song, for cryin' out loud!!
Mariah not Maria
Nope. Writers Lerner and Loewe wrote it with the 19th century English spelling ‘Maria’ but pronounced as here ‘ma-RYE-uh.’ The Wikipedia article on the song explains this.
or future ex-wife
This isn’t a rendition; it’s a butchering. Listen to a clip of the Smothers Brothers performing this on their variety show. It’s far superior.
This version was very good until they sped it up.
Horrible, boring tempo and lousy arrangement, including dulled melody, makes this the worst stinker version I ever heard.
I saw this 2nd generation in Colorado. The original Kingston member was 70 years old and out of wind from the thin air....they are talented, but not creative.
????? You're full of baloney, Sandwitch.
wyattdoodat Yup.
I saw them in 60 Dave Guard had left recently and John Stewart worked out real well-they introduced me to folk so then Weavers and Pete Seegar, though backwards progression, in a couple years, well... But I agree more talented than creative, though Stewart brought them to another level.
crap
Hard to believe this song could be murdered this badly. They've almost totally misplaced the melody
Nope KT, you missed the whole delivery of this song. Worst version I've ever heard.