A few points need to be stressed: 1. Many people don't know how to properly lift their arms without lifting the shoulder. Train this in front of a mirror. First without the bow, later with the bow/some weight. Putting the other hand on your shoulder can help you to check that the shoulder is staying low. 2. Make sure the shoulder is not rolled over to the front. This is often caused by bad daily-life posture and when trying to reach/push towards the target in the wrong way. The shoulder needs to be back and low. 3. Keep reaching. Don't stop reaching until the arrow has hit the target. Incorporate this feeling into your shot process until the end of follow through. Often, pople concentrate too much on backtension but then stop reaching with their bow arm, leading to a collapse of the front shoulder at some point (often during anchoring or expansion).
Pulling the shoulders back is so important. This rolling of the shoulders forward is epidemic in our society, because of the nature of the work many of us do--siting for hours at a computer work station, or using digital handheld media, and driving.
Jake you have been a god send for my journey threw archery. And i know who taught you, wrote a book called INSIDE THE ARCHER the holy grail of archery. Thankyou jake.
This is such awesome advice. In grad school getting a doctorate in physical therapy they told us all the time to be movement and task oriented. Simply saying just to reach out as far as you can to your target is so great. Simplified things for me greatly. Thanks man.
Nice. Spot on. Another one that I got taught was to grip a piece of paper between the bottom of my shoulder blades. My coach used to poke me between the base of my shoulder blades at full draw and tell me to pinch her finger. It works very nicely.
I have struggled with this problem for years and shot out of line, albeit reasonably. I found that if I aligned my bow arm slightly forwards I could keep the shoulder down. Probably my anatomy is odd as I couldn't achieve a bone to bone position when in line. However when I watched one of the form series you advised pushing forward with the wrist dropped so that the pressure was on the lower part of the thumb. I tried it and found that it immediately activated my tricep and lat and kept my shoulder down. Thanks Jake.
Thank you Jake for your sharing of all your heart felt experience as it has set me right from the start . I Have shared with my Archery club here in Samoa all that I have learned from you and progress has been exponential for us here through your sharing .
Thanks a lot! I was told to press my shoulder down. When I tried to do this I actually turned my shoulder backwards In a weird way wich resulted in some pain in the bow shoulder. This makes a lot more sense. Kind of the way you would do a planch sideways with your arm fully extended. Makes sense that the most natural motion for the body is to just press against the force instead of trying to press the shoulder down.
I have reaumatoid arthritis and just started shooting recurve. I have been flaring pretty significantly on the point of the shoulder will make sure from now on i have the right technique to maybe lesson the inflammation some but no way will i be quitting. its to relaxing despite the pain
At around 4:15 while pushing it out towards the target, can it cause the humerus to distance from it's socket a bit (if you force too much using muscles doing it) or it should settle while pulling to draw the bow? Thanks, very interesting videos!
Thanks for the great guidance. I learn so much from your videos. But I'm really curious about that spine tester on the bench to your left. Is that something you made or could I buy one? Looks pretty simple and precise! Thanks again!
Have a question about this. So I've been doing this and it has been working. I recently jumped from a 30 lb to a 34 lb at a 10m range and everything was fine because at 10m I can instinctively shoot and not hold my draw pose for long. I also went to the 20m range where I need to gap shoot to aim correctly, however, my bow shoulder and elbow got jacked up. First symptom was something that felt like tennis elbow, however, I had full range until I kept my hand vertical as if I was holding a bow and the elbow flared up. Next it was a combo of if I rotated my arm where my hand is horizontal, my biceps started to hurt (nothing major, but biceps should not feel like this when rotating your hand) and I shoot, eventually my upper pecs will have a piercing pain. Is there anyway to remedy faster besides just not shooting and ice packs?
There are 2 positions where the bow shoulder can be. One is in a normal relaxed position and the second one is in a fully extended position which is about 2 inches farther. Which one should it be?
If your bow shoulder moves sideways after the shot that means your directing the force sideways and not frontway or something.. im so bad at explaining
Hi Jake. Is reaching for the target (movement) a continuous process until release and follow through? Or is it more a case of reaching, then setting, the bow arm/shoulder while you execute the rest of the shot? Thanks.
Hey Jake, thanks so much for the video, the only question I’ve got about the chromium is what part does rotating the elbow play in what you said about reaching for the target? Most vids say you’ve got to rotate your elbow clockwise which will drop the shoulder, but it is a conscious thought to have to rotate while setting up. Thoughts?
I've had shaky bow arm for several months now. Could it be from improper shoulder position, weak shoulder/arm, improper bone alignment, too much weight on rods or what? I shoot 46# but i've also noticed shaking with my training band which is roughly 20# with my DL.
Don't pick up a bow as a first timer and fire off 50+ rounds cause you think you're Legolas 2.0, you'll end up watching this guy's videos jusss like me :p ...I hurt everywhere :'( And I was doing pretty much all this stuff wrong !!
I doubt many other sports apart from weight lifting concentrates on these muscles either tbh. Weight lifting kind of. You need good form for that. But off top of my head can't think of any, and i used to do alot of different sports.
Actually thinking about it he's got a point. When i did BMX cross, teacher told me always have shoulders down and foot position was important to. But it's hardly this, no real muscles was talked about tbh.
A few points need to be stressed:
1. Many people don't know how to properly lift their arms without lifting the shoulder. Train this in front of a mirror. First without the bow, later with the bow/some weight. Putting the other hand on your shoulder can help you to check that the shoulder is staying low.
2. Make sure the shoulder is not rolled over to the front. This is often caused by bad daily-life posture and when trying to reach/push towards the target in the wrong way. The shoulder needs to be back and low.
3. Keep reaching. Don't stop reaching until the arrow has hit the target. Incorporate this feeling into your shot process until the end of follow through. Often, pople concentrate too much on backtension but then stop reaching with their bow arm, leading to a collapse of the front shoulder at some point (often during anchoring or expansion).
Pulling the shoulders back is so important. This rolling of the shoulders forward is epidemic in our society, because of the nature of the work many of us do--siting for hours at a computer work station, or using digital handheld media, and driving.
Does pushing toward the target mean locking the elbow? I've always been told locking the elbow gives potential elbow pain/problems.
that second point is actually killer thank you sir
Jake is the only youtuber that makes me get up mid video & go to a mirror to mime archery lol
This concept couldn't be made more simple than this. Just reach as far as you can, got it. Good video
Jake you have been a god send for my journey threw archery. And i know who taught you, wrote a book called INSIDE THE ARCHER the holy grail of archery. Thankyou jake.
The divot! That helps actually a lot. I’ve been battling trying to understand what my shoulder should feel like thanks!
Several good pieces of information, Jake. Thank you.
Thanks. Really appreciate your explanation of how to get the feel of correct shoulder position 👍
This is such awesome advice. In grad school getting a doctorate in physical therapy they told us all the time to be movement and task oriented. Simply saying just to reach out as far as you can to your target is so great. Simplified things for me greatly. Thanks man.
Nice. Spot on. Another one that I got taught was to grip a piece of paper between the bottom of my shoulder blades. My coach used to poke me between the base of my shoulder blades at full draw and tell me to pinch her finger. It works very nicely.
I have struggled with this problem for years and shot out of line, albeit reasonably. I found that if I aligned my bow arm slightly forwards I could keep the shoulder down. Probably my anatomy is odd as I couldn't achieve a bone to bone position when in line. However when I watched one of the form series you advised pushing forward with the wrist dropped so that the pressure was on the lower part of the thumb. I tried it and found that it immediately activated my tricep and lat and kept my shoulder down. Thanks Jake.
Isn’t it always, the simply way is the best way. Good stuff.
I had been struggling with that...... thank you Jake.
Thanks
Thanks for the super thanks!
Thank you Jake for your sharing of all your heart felt experience as it has set me right from the start . I Have shared with my Archery club here in Samoa all that I have learned from you and progress has been exponential for us here through your sharing .
Thanks a lot! I was told to press my shoulder down. When I tried to do this I actually turned my shoulder backwards In a weird way wich resulted in some pain in the bow shoulder. This makes a lot more sense.
Kind of the way you would do a planch sideways with your arm fully extended. Makes sense that the most natural motion for the body is to just press against the force instead of trying to press the shoulder down.
Hi Jake,
yeah, that's it! The divid is a perfect indicator for the right shoulder positioning.
Thanks for your work!
Thanks. This really helped my shot.
Thank you, I was trying to anatomy nerd my way to correct position before this video
Thank you! This is a great tip
Good simple explanation of one the major form issues I have - I’d been concentrating on muscles so will see how this works for me. Thanks 🙏
Love your Chanel great advice well explained helped me a lot 😂
Thank you I will be doing that from now on !!
Yes! Thanks Jake. Great tip. I have been struggling with this. Finally, yeah.. thanks a lot. Appreciate it.
Great advice, Jake! Thanks!
Could you please talk in one video about string picture and its role during aiming. I believe it is quite an overlooked feature in aiming. Thank you
Thanks Jake! Stay safe!
thank you sir
I have reaumatoid arthritis and just started shooting recurve. I have been flaring pretty significantly on the point of the shoulder will make sure from now on i have the right technique to maybe lesson the inflammation some but no way will i be quitting. its to relaxing despite the pain
Nice job, very nice job!
Hi jack thanks for the video. As I m french I m trying to translate divot xhen you say acromio Divot. Is it divot or devot ... ?
Best tip ever!
At around 4:15 while pushing it out towards the target, can it cause the humerus to distance from it's socket a bit (if you force too much using muscles doing it) or it should settle while pulling to draw the bow? Thanks, very interesting videos!
Thanks I'll try next dry day. 🏹🤠👍
Great video and so important. My coach has worked with me on this for several months now, the foundation of a good shot is the bow arm. Thanks, Jake!
Thanks for the great guidance. I learn so much from your videos. But I'm really curious about that spine tester on the bench to your left. Is that something you made or could I buy one? Looks pretty simple and precise! Thanks again!
Thank you
Thank you!!!
Have a question about this. So I've been doing this and it has been working. I recently jumped from a 30 lb to a 34 lb at a 10m range and everything was fine because at 10m I can instinctively shoot and not hold my draw pose for long. I also went to the 20m range where I need to gap shoot to aim correctly, however, my bow shoulder and elbow got jacked up. First symptom was something that felt like tennis elbow, however, I had full range until I kept my hand vertical as if I was holding a bow and the elbow flared up. Next it was a combo of if I rotated my arm where my hand is horizontal, my biceps started to hurt (nothing major, but biceps should not feel like this when rotating your hand) and I shoot, eventually my upper pecs will have a piercing pain. Is there anyway to remedy faster besides just not shooting and ice packs?
There are 2 positions where the bow shoulder can be. One is in a normal relaxed position and the second one is in a fully extended position which is about 2 inches farther. Which one should it be?
Are resistance band weights accurate?
Your the best man
What's with the green 3/4' peep in the background?
Jake, when you push your bow hand forward, does it also move a little sideways outward ?
If your bow shoulder moves sideways after the shot that means your directing the force sideways and not frontway or something.. im so bad at explaining
@@mocknugget LOL thanks. I got your point. My question was badly phrased because of how confused I am with locking my bow arm.
welp looks like the neighbors are getting ready to see me shoot shirtless... great info !!
Hi Jake. Is reaching for the target (movement) a continuous process until release and follow through? Or is it more a case of reaching, then setting, the bow arm/shoulder while you execute the rest of the shot? Thanks.
Reaching/pushing the entire shot to maintain balance.
Hey Jake, thanks so much for the video, the only question I’ve got about the chromium is what part does rotating the elbow play in what you said about reaching for the target? Most vids say you’ve got to rotate your elbow clockwise which will drop the shoulder, but it is a conscious thought to have to rotate while setting up. Thoughts?
Reach! So simple. Thanks!
Thx! 😘🏹🎯
Best things in life are simple things
convenience link for the curious:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromion
please make video in Hindi
I've had shaky bow arm for several months now. Could it be from improper shoulder position, weak shoulder/arm, improper bone alignment, too much weight on rods or what? I shoot 46# but i've also noticed shaking with my training band which is roughly 20# with my DL.
KISS!
Don't pick up a bow as a first timer and fire off 50+ rounds cause you think you're Legolas 2.0, you'll end up watching this guy's videos jusss like me :p
...I hurt everywhere :'(
And I was doing pretty much all this stuff wrong !!
No kid in the world ever learned to ride a bike by consciously deciding which muscles to fire when . . . . . .
I did
@@Sandycheeks20034 Only in your dreams 😉
I doubt many other sports apart from weight lifting concentrates on these muscles either tbh. Weight lifting kind of. You need good form for that. But off top of my head can't think of any, and i used to do alot of different sports.
Actually thinking about it he's got a point. When i did BMX cross, teacher told me always have shoulders down and foot position was important to. But it's hardly this, no real muscles was talked about tbh.
No but olympic cyclists do to achieve optimum streamlining, reduce early muscle fatigue and reduce chances of injury so what's your point exactly?