My SALTY Review of the NVIDIA RTX 3060...
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- The RTX 3060 is here... but you shouldn't really care since you can't get it anyway.
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cringe comments...
@@bofasofa9399 no u
@@ArthurM1863 JayzThreeFIddy
If you check the nvidia forums it's the same thing. A bunch of people stating they never even got to see the cards in their local stores on launch day. It's like they were never really there to begin with...
@S Q micro center near Cincinnati handed out vouchers to purchase, heard people camped out in parking lot I camped my laptop from 9 till 4 best buy and burned up refresh button. I lost to a 2nd stage to purchase issue the add to cart lit up i clicked it then a very stupid problem occurred "your not done yet item is not in your cart" "due to high volumes we make new batches available on the hour" then it vanished went from coming soon to sold out. Livid = calm as to how discouraging best buy experience was. people who use bots to purchase stuff suck...
Microcenter in Kansas had about 100 on launch day they handed out vouchers
@S Q The micro center in columbus had 100 or so 3060's. When I got to the counter there were 3 left.
I bought a few here in the Netherlands and you can still buy a fe online, but retail sells them at €650-800... which is so high for these cards...
It's a paper launch. They never were released.
"The guy who showed up first" is only relevant if its actually a guy showing up. In reality, its a ton of bots sending requests the moment it goes lives where the people who actually showed up first get denial of service errors because of so many requests flooding the servers.
I also think is bullshit that the kid that has nothing to do and can go with no sleeping has more chances of buying something than an adult with a life that can't afford to waste hours and hours waiting for a store to open or be clicking for hours checking availability
yeah disagree with Jay on that one - the shuffle might be the best of a bunch of bad options right now
@@CityDinnerNight I agree. Everyone should do it like ps que or Newegg shuffle since they aren’t selling it in stores. Otherwise it’s bots getting them.
Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with Jay on this one. I have a nearly finished build that I can't complete because I can't get my hands on a newer card and my current system is running a 970 GTX and even trying to find a 2000 series is not an option. So if I can get myself in a lottery with a fighting chance of getting a card, that's better than the 'Coming Soon' button instantly switching to a 'Sold Out' button. I don't think Jay fully understands the struggle we've had the last few months as he announces his own 'lottery' give-away....
There should be a way to preorder with a human verification system. It can be slow, it can take weeks before release date, but it would be much better to avoid scalpers and overprices for regular people.
"this card goes from 500 dollars to 600, which is disgusting"
only if you knew that now they go for 900 to 1250
they were 495$ when they came out, dam
Please convince me not to drop a grand on a 3060. Please. Somebody stop me.
I can't take this abuse much longer.
@@liamnissanS2K if your only looking at 3060s idk what you can do, but if your building a new pc I recommend nzxt bld, I got a 3060 for around 480
I don't like to flex, but I got a 3060 at msrp
@@liamnissanS2K alright
Personally for me, the EVGA RTX 3060 was the perfect card for my situation. I’ve been “gaming” on Intel UHD graphics for 2 years now and finally got fed up and decided to build my first gaming pc... to be met with a shortage of cards. I’m also a broke college kid, so getting the EVGA one for under $400 was perfect. The 1000% increase in performance from Intel UHD is what matters to me, and I’m glad I got this card
Where did you get it?
@@Billy_084 can 3060 rtx run hello neighbor 2
@@brandondanielrobloxyt4259 No you need a 3080 ti for that
@@Doobiewizard it says gtx 1060 minimum
@@Doobiewizard if I’ll go back to Walmart and test hello neighbor 2 on that pc I’m saving for
Update: nvm I’ll wait till I get it
They might as well say:
"RTX 3060"
"coming out of stock soon"
LOL
I find it strange that people are talking about covid and automotive industry is fault for the gpu market crash, when we all know its because of mining and nothing else. People having mining farms with hundreds and thousands of gpus in my country, and all i can guess is that the whole world is having the same problem.
hahaha
"The card everyone has been waiting for (but nobody will get)"
"the new and awesome RTX 3060"
"coming to your mining farm soon"
This couldn't be anymore accurate.
Man, under $400 for a 3060 sounds freakin amazing right about now.
2 months later in alaska i am still seeing them go for $700
@@jessecannon7500 zotac has a 3060 for $540 and a 3060ti for $650
Just bought one from Best Buy for $580. Aurous
I just bought a 3060 TI in the Netherlands for 500.
got mine for 420
Watching this video in November 2022, I'm actually feeling pretty good about the 3060 that'll show up on my doorstep later today! I was able to get it for ~$340, and I'm upgrading from a GTX 950, so there's that.
The RTX 2060 was $350 at launch I believe, so there's that too!
Me too! Cyber Monday FTW!
DUDE SAME LMAO! XD
I saw it back when it was going for around 650 - 700
So glad i got it on cyber monday.
What a steal!
I got an evga rtx 3070 ultra xc3 for £350 last week on eBay... I was definitely really really lucky.... Well i sold my 1070 for £150 so i basically got the 3070 for £200 .... Ultimate price! 😂😂😂😁😁😁
I found a 3060 ti for that price and it comes today, I’m super hyped upgrading from a shitty used gtx 1660 lol
Jay found the card to be so underwhelming that he didn't bother releasing the video at the embargo date.
He usually releases it first.
Well, he also had COVID so...
well release is boring Fck nvidia 0 surprises just cold business performance
This card truly is pathetic.
@@buzzfightbeer8023 it's a joke, we know he has covid, he literally mentioned it in the video
meanwhile here in europe: the 3060 starts at what the *3080* is supposed to...
that's from NVIDIA PARTNERED RETAILERS too!
I actually thought I'd been burned paying a $100 upcharge on an rtx 3060 ti TUF OC...
@@LiamNajor sounds likea great deal.. just recently checked for the TUF 3080 on german amazon and one 3rd party seller had a single card... for 2300€
Asus tuf 3060 is $957 in SA
@@farouterspace Guess it was, I payed $675 (and no shipping because it was on facebook)
@@alastairmcleod4627 saw one for $800 on facebook...the same cooler...weaker card...somehow *more* expensive...
First come first serve doesn’t work right now when they’rs scalping bots that are “first come” thousands of times over blocking anyone else from getting served.
Well this video aged like fine milk where now even COD Warzone 2 at 1080p Ultra takes 10GB of vram.
If I get a 3060 I'll finally ask my crush out because if there's more chance of her saying yes than me getting a 3060 at this stage
Ask her out anyway. If she says yes you will be too busy to care about a 3060 😁
She'll say no once she finds out you bought a 3060, clearly you don't make good decisions.
@@johnjackson2349 cap
Eeeerrr... idk 😐. Good luck tho
I got a 3070 this week. They just released the 3090 but it was 1700. Microcenter is the best place to go, they arnt gouged much I payed about 629 for the 3070, but you can only buy one a month.
NVIDIA: Here a new....
retail: Product unavailable. OUT OF STOCK.
Couldn’t be me🤧
This card is a treat for people starting out in development. The 12GB has been handy for running multiple VM's using GPUPartitioning.
Jay! New subscriber here based on this video. I can't give you enough praise for the angle you're taking, there is a wonderful balance. I love the way you're fed up and informative, and helping all of us out. Thank you! I'm not a negative person, but the more salt you pour out onto exposing BS like this the better, I find that FAR from negative. Thank you for being a voice for my convictions. Looking forward to watching your channel explode.
As always, the only reason these cards are so expensive is because there's ALWAYS someone with more money than sense.
There is such as thing as LUXURY items my dude, the market decides the value, someone else is willing to pay more money to secure a purchase.
Think about it, the reason that there are shortages of things is because the price doesn't equate to the demand, if the price rises with the demand then you can be sure that you can purchase an item despite the low availability IF you can pay the premium. If we then want to be no more scalpers and the price stays MSRP it will literally be a first come first serve (which sucks for people who can't afford the time) and a literal LOTTERY (which ultimately sucks for everyone else). You either have to pay with time, or with luck and STILL your purchase isn't sure, but at the very least if you can pay the premium you can ENSURE your purchase.
This hate towards how prices SHOULD work is stupid and blinded, it is a LIMITED LUXURY item people, are we back to explaining why diamonds costs a lot more than water?
From: A person who can't afford the premium price and can buy the card and accepts how it is and just waits for the supply to adjust or for the hype to die down because I can't pay for the premium I will pay for with what I can afford, the time.
@@NoobBasically Dude, no one is claiming this issue is just stores being greedy,etc. People understand the situation but are still frustrated. I don't understand why you're defending paying a premium for an underwhelming card, especially since you don't do it yourself. The concept of paying a 3070 (msrp) prices for a 3060, a successor to one of the most bang-for-your-buck cards (1060), is a little dumb to say the least. And it most definetly sends the message that it's ok to pay a premium. On another note, while categorically, it might be a luxury item, it's most definetly used in a professional application. Lots of content creators, freelance artists, students and the like, who do creative tasks, but don't need or can afford a Quadro or a 3090, rely on mid-range cards. I would argue computer parts are often very much on the edge of necessary/luxurious.
I mean no harm, just baffeled why you'd hold this view.
TBH I'm not gona support this shitshow nvida (and amd) are having here. I will keep my 1080 until cards with sain specs and prices are available.
@RandomUsername
maybe a 3090 is a luxury items. Maybe even a 3080, but a 3070 let alone a 3060 are not luxury but midrange cards.
@@NoobBasically Capitalist pig
@@theperfectionist1607 Ask Stalin and Mao for your graphics card then KEKW, if you so hate capitalism you shouldn't use it's products like Youtuve, the phone/PC you use to view youtube etc etc.
Go to a bread line and use RedStar OS you propaganda blinded freeloader LUL
As a retail brick and mortar store owner myself, I can confirm that when I purchase any 30 series cards from approved distributors, they are considerably higher (up to $200 over) than MSRP and therefore I have to charge something higher to make money. What I make has historically been less than 10% and most were under 5% markup just to help cover costs of accepting credit cards as payments. It has been a frustrating 5 months. Fortunately, EVGA has been fairly easy to keep getting in my local store. And before anyone asks, I will not ship these cards. I have been selling them locally and will continue to.
^ truth. Cost on 3090 is over 2K CDN.
@@JackSmith-kx7fe makes sense, given the Canadian dollar is worth less than USD
@@lukerubin1896 Yeah it's really frustrating too. I get a heart attack every time I hear the prices in these type of videos and remember it's in USD and it will be even more in CAD. Plus you get an additional markup for some reason when you compare the American retail price compared to the Canadian. So I don't even think my kidneys can cover the price for these cards nowadays.
@@ammarahmad5757 that is why one should save up the money to buy one of the cards then use that money to order a PC that comes with a card in it for that same cost.
@@lukerubin1896 3090 it's way over 2500 euros... And the euro is more worth then the dollar...
NewEgg has gaming machines available with the 3060. Really the only way to get a decent card at a reasonable price is to buy a pre-built system and be willing to pay around $1500 for for the whole system. Or just wait it out. It's probably going to be a long time before demand settles down and supply catches up.
Bought the #2 best seller on newegg with this video card. Amazing pc for a good price too.
It’s funny how newegg does not have a ceiling price for scalpers.they should always display the MSRP and the markup that these scalpers have.
imagine winning the shuffle and feeling lucky and then you see the disgusting prices...
Philippe Zevenberg "hits power button on computer"
I think, that if you win you pay what was advertised that day, so if you chose a 329$ card that's what you will pay, same if you chose a 450$ card, you have the option to choose which cards you want.
And honestly the shuffle is not a bad idea, it's the only way you can compete against bots and scalpers, idk why Jay was so salty about it, I saw all the cards in other stores being bought in 1 second by bots.
You can view the products and prices before you sign up for the shuffle.
I won the shuffle for a 3060 and it was $400 after tax and shipping
won the shuffle but the 3060 was $500 so I passed lol
I’m so used to seeing massive, triple slot cards that this 3060 looks tiny
They *supposedly* have made single fan cards but obviously you won’t be able to get one since gpu shortage :(
I don’t even see a card....
Its thic af tho
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Hey Jay, Love your content. Your videos are so informative and really breaks things down for people new to hardware like myself. I haven't gone through your whole catalog, but I think if you did a video that covered alot of the basic acronyms that you see all the TechTubers. A video like that would really help newbies like myself get over the learning curve. Again great content!
Agreed
Love your reviews... first time looking at ur vids,far better than others and entertaining... keep up the excellent job
Me in October: Maybe 30-series will be affordable in January
Me in January: Maybe the 30-series will be affordable in March
Me in March: Maybe the 30-series will be affordable in January 2022
I'm over it.. I'm just using my PS5 at least you can get those at retail price.. if you try a bit. I'm finished with PC gaming since I can't get a even half decent gpu upgrade for less than buying a car:P
Affordable? Perhaps you mean Available?
Honestly I gave up...tried to get a 3080 for a month then just accepted that my 2080 is fine for another year.
Just wait for Nvidia's arm based socs.
@@matthewskyle1 LMAO YOU'VE GOT A 2080 and wanted a 3080, GTFO and let people who absolutely need an upgrade get one. For those who are on Pascal or Maxwell, I hope you get it before these Turnings bastards do!!!!
We need to highlight how Newegg sets lower price when the cards are out of stock, then increase the price when they are available. Very shady.
You may find most of those available prices are from their marketplace vendors that aren’t regulated by newegg in that manner
@@MrMurdock86 I was gonna ask if op was sure the issue was Newegg themselves and not from 3rd party sellers.
Didn't know they did that, I've never seen them in stock.
Newegg themselves still seem alright but they have tons of 3rd party vendors too now
i'll never buy from new egg again -they made me wait a month to get my money back on a motherboard they never shipped
Due to linear time, more games will likely make use of more VRAM, no? I remember during the 900 series when WB came out with hi-res textures for the LOTR game at the time that could use up to 6GB VRAM. This was 7 years ago...
The larger memory of the 3060 is appealing to deep learning developers and data scientists and if you are using TensorFlow or PyTorch, AMD cards are all but useless. That positions the 3060 as an excellent entry level choice for machine learning developers. The increases of memory on Nvidia cards is definitely appreciated.
also being on an 8gb 1060 im already having to lower settings on some games and with what the future holds im betting on the 12gb vram being more useful than the 20-30 frames from the better cards that have less vram
Even here in Japan scalpers are really sucks!!!
Yes exactly and then they sell it for 3x the price
You been to Aokihara forest?
Are really sucks right?
Pinoy Past Tensed
@@Granola_cat Japanese......
I love it when youtubers speak the truth instead of what companies want them to say. Props man
Jay only does it when everyone else does
Doesn't matter, publicity is publicity
Like it matters though cuz they're still selling non stop that's the truth
When even Linus is calling Nvidia out, you know the situation is BAD...
The 3060 is a shit card, like the 1050/1050Ti was. Years ago you'd get the 1060 instead if you want value for your buck, now you go for the 3060Ti if you want that (at MSRP, not scalped to hell that is).
The only reason why the 3060 is so trash, is that Nvidia knew people are hungry to get their hands on w/e card they can find so a shitty card like this can still get great sales.
Really enjoyed watching your videos. I am preparing to begin my first build. Actually, I will be doing two at the same time for my office. I am a Canadian doing business in Costa Rica. I sure would like one of those 2080ti that you're sitting beside Twocent. This shortage really sucks.
The whole shortage and inflating prices of GPUs went by me until i decided i had to completely overhaul / buy a new pc. I used a GTX 750 Ti until this month and searching for a nice GPU was hard. Now i get how people feel and felt trying to get their hands on anything that isnt totally overpriced. I personally was really lucky tho because i had an exam in Cologne, Germany while gamescom was happening and when i was about to get back home, my newsfeed showed me that a big german store here colaborated with Nvidia because of Gamescom and they sold 1000 GPUs, from 3060, 3060 Ti up to 3090 and whatever the most expensive cards are, all sold at retail price. So i got my hands on the 3060 for 349€ , could have bought the Ti for 500 but i refused to do so because of my overall budget.
Thank god i dont have to think about GPUs for a long time now..
The candor was much more valuable than a review of the card could have ever been. Truly a solemn situation. Thank you Jay.
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Remember when everyone was laughing at 2080 ti owners. Hey at least I have a card
Yep, I also remember some people selling them for just $500, prior to launch as well. I bet most of those who did, are really kicking themselves now.
you still can mine n cover up cost
Also remember when they were laughing at people who built new computers over the summer; at least I have a real desktop and not an imaginary one LOL
You know you got a great card when compared to the prices today!
Got my 3070 back in December for $559 from Micro Center. The shit hit the fan right after that and I truly feel bad for everyone that's struggling to get a card at a fair price.
Hey @JayzTwoCents, I think it would be good to include GPU's from 2 generations back, because I think many skip a generation before upgrading their GPU.
yeah, this should be the thing for all Tech reviewers in 2021. Just compare to GPUs from 2 gens back minimally. LOL, legit.
I really love my little 3060 12gb. EVGA card too. It's what got me into pc gaming in 2021 from my little pre build. I've upgraded a week ago (to a 6950 xt) but still little fella has a place in my heart.
"Annnnd its gone."
".... Relisted on eBay at $1000+"
Now we're neck deep into "I don't care"
I'm sure for some folk, this paper launch / scalper fatigue is challenging human malware fatigue [if not exceeding]
I don’t have human malware fatigue cuz honestly I don’t think there is one. It’s just evil politics and a method to exert complete control over the people (who blindly followed off the cliff like lemmings.) I’m way past “I don’t care” on the stock/scalper/bot/online only bullshit.
"I feel like crap, and I'm fed up with this crap, and I'm not taking it anymore" It's as if COVID is feeding you ideas and I love it. Feel the same way when I saw those prices. Literally one card that is cheaper than a 3060 TI FE? How does this make sense?!?
More memory on lower tier cards makes sense for 3D work where you don't necessarily render on GPU, but use it on large viewports.
In most cases when working in viewport - 3ds max, C4D or Blender, GPU usage stays low with memory being utilized to the max
So I made the worst decision ever 6months ago😂
I love your videos. I have learned so much from you. Big thanks to you and your team!
Yay, RTX 2070 performance for the price of a 2070 two and a half years ago!
Underrated comment right here!
Yep. Even it’s RT performance is about that of a 2070. Why on earth would anyone want this card.
And useless 12 GB ram. Makes zero sense
You mean 2060 performance
@@kennethd4958 because people have shitty cards and want to upgrade and don't have 1000 dollars to spend on a card?
It's literally wasting RAM in the middle of a hardware shortage to try and stunt on AMD
How much deditated wam should I need?
???? you're just talking our of your ass lmfao. This having more or less of gddr6 wouldn't fix anything. We don't have a memory issue....
@@pumpkin1escobar Uuuuhhhh, we have an active silicon shortage, sport.
WTF do you think RAM is made out of, kiddo?
@@bryancase2643 deddodated wam for minekwaft server????? use dedodated vee ram instead of real ram?????
Wasting RAM? try saying that to the polaris cards too. It will age so much better with more RAM.
I listen to other TH-camrs on pc parts but Jay is awesome he always gives you the other side of the coin. Btw jay what's the best card you recommend for flight simulator???
Appriciate your research efforts. Interesting video and facts :)
The new egg shuffle makes sense because 9 times out of 10 the "first come first serve" will be a bot.
Facts
It only uses captcha when you sign in
Using bots to make accounts
@@dean7920 simple these retailers don't care they will sell to anyone the shuffle is only there so they can bundle shit you don't want with the stuff you do
@Anton Bosko it also gives the company an excuse to inflate the cost. If scalpers are selling them for more they can charge more. Capitalism mixed with a pandemic has ruined everything fun about collecting and gaming
buying anything in 2021: "don't do it"
Except RAMs and SSDs
cpus are great, but going up..
sorry, buy intel
I just bought more ram and a fast nvm ssd by Hynix gold 31 for cheap
What if you want a good pc tho... prices are likely not changing for a while
just had to resub to your channel.... have missed out on new vids for no idea how long
I had to call over lockers and wait on hold in a queue to get mine. The line shut at 17:00 and they answered at 16:50. Pretty good system with having to call up because it’s harder to use bots.
I'm convinced most of the online stores never actually had any stock.
They had, but not for open sale.
Saw several people snag some from Best Buy. I got one from the shuffle. Saw a livestream from a guy camping out at a Microcenter. About 80 people in line to buy 60 cards.
I got an evga ftw3 ultra 3080 for $820 on newegg
Scan in the UK had some, but sold out quickly, Curry's PC World site crashed, they sold out
I managed to get one...Then found out that ebuyer aren't actually getting the card I ordered till April the 30th or so...So I guess they didn't have any for one.
(Or maybe they had some in, but no the model I ordered, who knows *shrugs*).
FYI dear reader: the price of a 3060 Ti in store in Hungary is around 1900 USD.
lol
Playing diablo 1 on that intel intergrated graphics sounds good right now
@ProfDrToni Dude that sucks, In most places here in the states brick and mortar have rules they have to follow so they can't drive the price that high. Online not so much. Thats why every microcenter here has "camp" lines every day and people sit in the store here all day hoping for a drop shipment to arrive.
God I thought it was awful that I paid $600 in the US
i saw a 1080ti on WISH for 9000....... in the USA
I just got my hands on a 3060 last week for retail price at micro center in Brooklyn🤟🏾 so far I’m happy w it
Performance wise, it'll do the job in most cases but it'll still tank in some cases. One that comes to mind is when I played BO: Cold War zombies and went from 120-160 fps at rounds 1-8 or so, to about 35-55 fps past round 15 (though that was with literally everything set to ultra). That smaller bus and somewhat lower clock speed has a pretty significant impact at times, it would seem.
Also, mine is paired with a r5 3600 and 16gb ddr4 (300mhz), for anyone curious. Got a prebuilt coz that was in stock and not too too overpriced (though still overpriced imo). Thinking the ram might be giving me slight performance drop on the higher end, but I wouldn't think so much as to be a major factor in the frame rate drop.
Don't get me wrong, overall I'm quite happy with it but it didn't blow me away quite like I was hoping it would, going from a 1060 to the 3060. Regarding the price points for the cards themselves I agree completely with Jay. It's fucking laughable when a gpu price can range from ~$450 usd to ~$1250 usd. Scarcity or not it's utterly inexcusable imo. Wouldn't recommend on its own, certainly not at present.
With channels such as Gamers Nexus doing the really thorough graphs and stuff, I appreciate having a review like this that is more opinion based.
Er we need graphs. Need the numbers
@@smartgorilla well go to Gamer Nexus or Hardware Canucks or another channel
@@errorcode503 done that.
@@smartgorilla good for you
@@errorcode503 bit of everything to spice things up. I like to see the difference in performance. It's a friends company conference.
"This won't be a good card for mining"
Good, I'm glad
Short term view.
I'm pretty sure people who bought RX 570 are very happy to sell them 400$ on ebay cause they are still good at mining.
Agreed. Miners can go suck on the exhaust of a Greyhound bus!
@@WardyLion eh I think mining is fine really, Atleast at a hobbyist level. I mine on my machine when I’m not gaming, I’ve nearly got the whole thing paid off with Ethereum.
But I definitely have a problem with the mining farms. Thousands of game ready video cards just churning out equation night and day, burning electricity, for no reason other than some dudes want to speculate over a fiat currency. That rubs me the wrong way for whatever reason.
Hopefully there will be another enormous crypto crash and we will have 3000 series cards as far as the eye can see
I pray for the day crypto mining dies, we're destroying the planet over getting resources that don't even exist. The price is only held up because people want to make money off of it, there is very little actual use case aside from dodgy dealings.
@@tomfoolery2913 I agree completely. Cryptocurrency has been forced upwards solely because people think it’s the future. In reality it’s another fiat currency, that has less usefulness than cash and uses magnitudes more energy to use. I think NFTs and Cryptocurrency is neat, maybe a bit interesting. But it’s an enormous waste of time and energy.
I have a 1070 currently so even the low end 3060 is a great upgrade for me plus it seems to be the only one available currently
I was fortunate enough to get that card from Best Buy for $399 last week. I feel it was a reasonable deal considering the economic climate being what it is. On Ebay and Amazon, 1650's are going for $400+, the 1660's are going for $600+, and the 2060's are even higher than that. This card will be marginally better or atleast on par with my 2060 Super that I bought in October. For $399, I consider this to be a good buy.
"The RTX 3060 is here... but you shouldn't really care since you can't get it anyway."
Indeed.
"A new card with the same performance as last gen cards but with a much higher price? Well, I don't want to LOSE money by not buying this banger of a deal!"~A Savvy Consumer
higher price? Show me a 2 series under $329. At $329 the 3060 is currently priced at what GTX 1050's are going for....the 3060 is a better card. Literally the best card you can buy right now that is under $329 is the GTX 960, a card that came out 7 years ago
@@murph1329 say this again when its really sold at 329$ . Smh
Imagine a 3060 for $329
@@murph1329 go ahead and try to buy it.
@@murph1329
The 3060 costs $500
That steel tubes framed pc in the back is awesome. Where did you get that at or did you custom build it
I signed up for the EVGA 3060 xc when it first launched and just got my email for my chance to buy it today. Of course I did as im not paying the crazy scalping prices for 30"s series cards. I paid $468 for the card with overnight shipping. If i get a chance at a retial 3070t 3080 or 3080ti Ill buy that but for now this is a huge upgrade over my 1060
I’ve got the 1070 and thinking about getting this card
Imagine seeing people standing in line waiting for an overpriced 3060 when its barely worth it at MSRP.
It was 100% worth it for me considering the price of the sold listings of my 1070 ftw with box on ebay.
Paid $390 + tax for the 3060 so practically an almost free upgrade with a little more work.
pretty sure its still worth at msrp however I wouldn't buy an aib card that goes for 380 would rather just try and get a 3060 ti
It's not even worth the MSRP, tbh. Terrible value, loses to last gen 5700XT on average. What a waste of sand.
@@brianv3ntura The problem in a lot of markets is that MSRP was never even considered. Most retailers did not even sell a single card at MSRP, most 3060s went for around 550-600 here. So definitely not worth.
@@raptura8835 3060 ti don't exist for less than 800 and evga queue is still servicing orders from the start of January so the wait is prob gonna be to 2022 to buy one at msrp. Mark my words. They have been terrible with you launches. I understand the impact covid has had. But working in a factory I wonder how they even make a profit if they can't produce literally anything. Lennox is still pulling thousands of AC units a day with half staff. I don't know why a graphics card in such high demand just isn't being produced. The best value used right now is a fking 980 ti for nearly 400$ and that makes me sick.
Edit. My phone can't spell ti apparently
Careful with your "editorial direction", you know how nvidia feel about that.
Jayz: "I doubt we'll see another one, specially after this video".
I'm pretty sure Jay is already undoing his pants and preparing to moon nvidia.
Nvidia won't do anything because of how badly they were caught via Hardware Unboxed (Steve) going public with their email towards him and Nvidia trying to cut him off and control what he says only for Linus and others to go public about it and defend Steve. Nvidia tucked their big boy tail between their legs and kissed Steve's ass BIG TIME right after everyone found out the truth. Not to mention Nvidia was caught selling their own merchandise via Amazon through a subsidiary at a scalpers price and claimed that a shipment of graphic cards went to the company by accident and they sold it anyway when they just tried to hoodwink people altogether and got caught red handed. This was all during the past few months so I highly doubt Nvidia will do anything about Jay being honest and doing his job which is to review and give his opinion on products from ALL companies. If anything, Jay will just buy whatever he wants to review should Nvidia (or whatever manufacturer) not want to give him a review sample and use it as a tax write off.
@@I_Be_Stevie It wasn't Gamers Nexus' Steve, it was Hardware Unboxed's Steve. But GN Steve also roasted NVidia anyway, along many others. And for good reason, as we already know by now.
@@krazycharlie Ooooo crap, you're right. I got my Steve's mixed up haha. my bad on that (kinda embarrassed since my name is Steve as well haha) Just made the edit. Appreciate the heads up on the mistake.
Brick and Morty 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Love the video 🤘🏽 still rocking my old Maxwell Titan
Managed to pick one of these up in a legion 5i, wanted a 3060 specifically for work, but gaming in one is nice too!
I bought a 2060 with plans on "quickly" replacing it with a 3080. Fun times.
You are going to know what pain is
Well, atleast you still have a decent card. I’m rocking a gtx 950 rn lmao
I had upgraded from a 980, so it was almost not an upgrade. I wanted my old pc to still be able to run.
My old 1080 is going to be my way untill atleast 4000 series
You'll probably have now more chances to get a 3080 than any other minor card. Of course, speaking of stock not price.
I've Never imagined my 1080ti to stay more than 4 !!! years in my rig... best 800€ ever spend
Fucking amazing card . Of course4 years for that beast.
But 800 rip off . Way cheaper in UK that time .
@@rajakhan12346 got it in july 2017 for msrp at the peak of the first mining crysis sold my 9 month old 1070 with a 50€ loss ^^
and almost meets the rasterization performance of an rtx 2060 super/3060
@@manuelmunguia616 for the same price lol
This is the reason why I went from Playstation to PC was to get away from the price gouging and the lack of stock. And now here I am wanting to build a PC and it may cost half the price of my pc if not more for a graphics card because like you said they want to go way over msrp.
That performance comparison background music was bomb
Nvidia: There is a global shortage of GDDR6
Also Nvidia: Let's put 12Gb GDDR6 on the 3060
Haha so true... 🤣🤣🤣
What else should they do? Put in 6Gb and eat even more shit from the community?
@@EyDerVu 8 gb is more than enough, and if it’s at their “lower” tier, then it shouldn’t cause any issues. At least then they could explain that something like 12gb would be pointless and not even remotely realistically used anyways, where 8 gb would be utilized more properly
@@joselira7779 This is not how any of this works. the amount of Vram is always the memory bandwidth multiplied by the power of two.
So now we have a 192-bit bandwidth memory interface on the 3060 which results in either 6 ( 192 x 32 ) or 12 ( 192 x 16) gigs of Vram.
That's also the reason why GPUs always come in either 6/12, 8/16 or 10/20 gigs of Vram.
Since putting 8 gigs on it would be impossible what would you suggest to the engineers at Nvidia?
@@EyDerVu then change the memory bandwith
"GPU giveaway is probably the best chance you have right now at getting these graphics cards"
Over 1.2 million entries and only 1 winner? Yeah.... I doubt that lol.
And its still the best chance, thats how bad it is.
Go buy one elsewhere then? Oh wait
@@Clutch4IceCream Ok you can buy one right now if you're willin to pay scalper prices lol but I'm sayin ude have a better chance buying one getting stock alerts then being picked outa over 1.2m ppl.
@@Chuckiele definitely not lol
Only have done the shuffle twice and both times got a card. 3070 and now the 3060. Others I know have also been able to get multiple cards. My problem yesterday was Zotac 3060 showed $489 but when I got notice of being picked in the shuffle, the price was higher than the price shown in the shuffle. Felt like a bait and switch.
This might be a great card for work pcs, which makes it a decent option, because you may actually use the 12 gb
That's why I got it, it's perfect for machine learning
@@douwehuysmans5959 yep, im in the process of sourcing one of these cards for machine learning. GPUs are used for more than video games
4:00 I'm in the "Unofficial Micro center Discord Server." No, you're not getting a GPU by lining up only two or three hours before closing. You better start lining up at 7 P.M. the night before.
Walked in today at 11:30, no line and full of customers. Got a 3060 and the guy behind me got a 3090. They had more 3060s, 3070s and 3080s left. Maybe I got lucky or maybe people are only going on the weekend
now there’s no line and just complete luck in some micro centers :)))
That face just says, 'WHY?'. Cards are available -> out of stock -> now on eBay for twice the price.
Next up, the 3050. And, if they make a 3050Ti or Super then I quit.
I saw a 12GB one sell for $700 but most are 8GB version going for around $450.
Jim Flagg wym 8gb version?? 8gb version of 3060?!?
I saw a 3060ti on ebay, a few minutes ago, 4,500€. At least here in Germany you can get a 3080 for 1,150€ when searching for a new one, ebay is just broken.
Scalpers on Ebay are officially giving me better deals than retailers here in europe now :)
Can confirm. €1300 for a 3070.
Thanks for the SALTY review, Jay! Hey, what's the music in this video?
Subscribing due to your brutally honest review and calling out suppliers 👌🏻
Man I picked the wrong time to try to upgrade my "was Ok teir 7 years ago" rig
I feel you. I'm looking to upgrade my "OK Tier 11 years ago" PC 😂
I'm kinda glad that I bought a RTX 2080 Ti 2 years ago even though I had a bad feeling spending so much money on just a graphics card back then.
Now at least I got a graphics card that will be able to provide good framerates for new games at 1440p for the next couple of years.
Scalpers: let's gouge customers while demand is high
AIBs: that's a really good idea
More like
Scalpers: Lets buy every GPU on launch day to create the demand and low retail supply.
Consumers: We cant find any GPU's!!!! WE NEED!!!! (hence "high demand and low supply")
Scalpers: Time to get rich boi's!!!
AIB's: Wow some of these idiots are really paying 2x to 3x markup?!?!? Lets do it also!!!
"torture you. I like that. That's a good idea"
Unfortunately that’s just supply and demand. Because of a shortage of cards they will mark them up for those who really want them. Even though the deal is an absolute ripoff it’s just economics
@@amandeepbaghiana4510 Miners and scalpers, both are harming us, the long-term costumers.
MSI: we beat you to it but we got caught and had to apologize. Sorry, not sorry. We learned our lesson... dont get caught.
got my RTX3060 couple days ago. In Türkiye retailers found a "weird" solution to scalpers. Most of them does not sell cards individually, they only sell it as a whole case. You can buy a single GPU card but it nearly triples the normal money.
i wanna know where the 3080's are? it's been months and i've been on the EVGA queue since October 7th... Xbox X and PS5's are more available than the 3080's...
Im so glad Im buying a 30 series card once the 40 series comes out.
NO CAP 🧢
I’ve been saying that since the 9 series XD
Foreshadowing here, its not going to work. I was planning to get the 16x/20x series few months after the 30x but look at where we are now. Even the used cards are selling for 30x msrp prices now
@@weeksweeks9552 my 1070 is still holding strong, probably will keep doing so when then 40 series comes out. If only because of the types of games I play and how I doubt graphics will be pushed that far during a chip shortage.
Hey worst case, when the 50 series comes out. I only bought my first PS2 end of last year. Waiting ain't a problem when it's cheap.
Actually that isnt a joke Lovelace cards are just around the corner and will be released in mid 2022😂
"The biggest shortage of Silicon, that we've ever seen in our history"
*laughs in 1988*
Fair to say a lot of his audience probably wasn't even alive yet lol
I guess that's where the "our history" comes in, most of his audience is probably 13-30.
Quick, invest in Strip clubs.. Plenty of silicone there.
@@terakahn accurate lol
Its actually the biggest marketing conspiracy of the digital age
This would benefit using video editing drivers for things like DaVinci Resolve and Blender having more ram available though correct?
Yes, specially when working on 4k and 8k videos
I’ve just got the GeForce 3060 paired with amd ryzen 5 3600 in a pre built pc, is this a good build for warzone I’m new to pc and I don’t really have a clue what bench marks I should get and should I over clock?
PSA: If you buy from scalpers, you are the reason scalpers exist.
No normal person does it. It’s usually you tubers or streamers who need it for work/ reviews. Unless ur Jeff bezos u won’t pay that
Not saying im buying anything anytime soon but if my gpu goes out i aint waiting for this to blow over
@@Sam-ds3wm Nope. I've personally seen a TOOOON of normal people pay scalped prices, curse they're sick and tired of waiting
I'm not mad at paying above MSRP.... However, I will NEVER pay more than a 10-15% markup.
Still sitting on my 1060 I got from a prebuilt, because that's the only way I could get a decent deal on it.
In Romania, we still havel some GPUs available, for example: an rtx 3070 for aprox. 2000 USD
Si rtx 3060 la 1000 usd just because
1200usd for 3060ti in croatia
Some assholes are selling their xfx 5500 xt for $800 in my country
I payed 2000 dollars for the 3090 HOF
@@christiaanjaneke3830Jeez, a 3090 could cost here at least twice that price, if not more
Well damn. Was looking at these to replace my old 1060. What would be a good option? I have an I5 7600 with a 750 watt PS currently.
I was in micro center a couple weeks ago and actually got the chance to see a couple 3090’s on display. Should’ve copped when i had the chance
It's fairly clear that the pricing is not coming back to reason any time in the next few months. Probably not until damned September, when we should be seeing news about the _next_ series. ffs.
yeah, even the 1660 super that's sitting in my machine that I got as a long term bridge until a good ray tracing value is available is listed over 600 bucks. Glad I picked it up when I did for $189
It will never be. What Nvidia and amd learned this whole shit show is people will pay whatever bullshit price as long as it is available.
Strongest evidence being 3060 is such a garbage card for it's price yet it is still out of stock instantly.
So, we are more or less doom for eternity.
I’m afraid it might be longer than September, bit coin ain’t going down in value anytime soon, not if Big celebrities and tycoons keep talking about it.
@@schwig44 sell it;)
According to Gamers Nexus, the Board partners were very annoyed at Nvidia because the MSRP was calculated far below a possible costs. So the costs may never actually go to MSRP lol
"Shuffle " selling method is gud, actually. Scalper bots are so fast regular customers have no chance. This way I at least can try my luck.
I agree. I was a bit taken back when he ridiculed the shuffle system. I spent 2 months of near constant monitoring across multiple websites before finally getting lucky with a 3080, and yes, I consider myself VERY lucky to have found one. The shuffle system at least gives people a much better chance at getting on than crossing your fingers that you can get one in your cart and check out before the site crashes or bots buy them all out.
He probably wasn't thinking of scalpers. To be fair. It wasn't something at the forethought of purchasing before now. Imo.
@@dawn-blade Honestly, i relied on someone else to do the legwork for me. Look up Falcodrin on Twitch, he is very good about updates and his discord channel was invaluable in alerting me of drops that I managed to get in.
yeah, only thing I really disagree with jay, first come first serve during these times where bots are at an all time high specially shouldn’t really apply
@@dawn-blade My method was to watch the Twitch stream and Discord and receive notifications from Falcodrin when drops occurred and jumping on it. Working from home allows me to have the twitch stream open basically during all waking hours and since there's an audible notification of when a drop happens I can get back to my desk within a few seconds and try to snag a card.
Fantastic video! I agree with everything totally the marketing of this card is shit. As a game developer though there is a reason for having more vram. Even if you can't push higher resolutions, other effects such as volumetric cloud data / signed distance fields and gpu particles can take up massive amounts of vram. 12 gb is still overkill though.
I had to camp a microcenter for mine just three days ago, they are getting a decent amount per truck at least near me but the price even there keeps rising, I do like it as a upgrade from my 970 though
I was actually stoked to see the high RAM, because I use my GPU for deep learning and more RAM means bigger neural nets. I highly doubt NVIDIA is making them with me in mind, though.
@@someusername1921 I kinda doubt it. Wether they claim it or not is another but i feel like it’s them trying to own up Amd like jay said.
Yaaas! That's what those tensor cores are for! I just don't know why they didn't do it on something beefier like a 3070, which would allow budget gamers to get a cheap GPU and hobbyists/enthusiasts to get a higher VRAM card.
This is also fantastic for 3D artists, I regularly reach near the limits of the 2080 tis
Well, that’s why 3090 exist isn’t it...
Tho for deep learning it's good to have something like the 3080, at least processing vise... But I agree, I'd love to get like something in between a 3070 and 3080, but with around 16Gigs of the fast GDDR6x memory, at around 700 to 800$... That would be awesome for AI, rendering etc
Happy to see you doing well, man. Hope everyone is staying safe over at JTC.
I work for the factory that makes the Frames for the Ford F150, and We've had to not go full blast on making things, because sometimes we have to wait on Ford.... like for various reasons, including the computer chip issues lol
I'm still stuck on my R290x, its chuggin along with my I7-2600k!
Usually he's 2 minutes early. Now Jay's 24 hours late. Though, he deserves a break.
I mean does it even matter if he is on time? Can't buy the shit anyway.
@@Gearbhall I bought it😏
@@Gearbhall you can, it's just fucking hard.
And they are expensive af. Costs over 1000$ in romania, and 1800$ in hungary... for a 3060
@@DarkShadowOfDeath666 Electronics prices in europe have been weird lately. I just had to import a mouse from the us because it was more than 3 times the price over here.
"Morty! Morty, get your pants on! We.. we gotta go sell some [beeeelch].. consumer electronics!"
Aw geez, Rick. F#@%k you.
I managed to snag a 12gb one of these yesterday (should ship in two weeks or so), as an upgrade from my GTX 970. I hope I didn't fuck up and get a mediocre card...
Well, would 12 gb help rendering or deep learning softwares?