Surprising TRUTH on FSU & Clemson to Big 12 RUMORS | ACC | Conference Realignment
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- Rumors are circulating that FSU and Clemson could be headed to the Big 12 instead of the Big 10 or the SEC. I discuss today on College Football Addiction.
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Wait a minute. Isn't this the guy who kept saying he had insider info on the ACC blowing up before July? And FSU & Clemson would be gone next year. This dude knows about as much as I do on this situation 🤡
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Yeah. This guy talks and talks and talks but he doesn’t have anything of real value to say.
He knows squat
@@DamonTheJedi Nole Bias
Thunder Thighs is The King of Click Bait. Loves to hear himself talk, but has zero insight or insider information.
Exactly!
If and when FSU and Clemson get out of the ACC watch and see if the Big10 and SEC don't both go after them. They are smart to avoid potential lawsuits and are not willing to say anything until both programs are free and clear.
theyre trying not to play their rivals, and fsu wouldnt wanna go to the cold in big 10, fsu and clemson rather have a conference where its not too good but not too bad, just like the acc was
@@JoshuaJohnsOfficalChannelFSU wants in the P2
@@Almighty5-ww1kl too bad, florida doesnt want them
I agree with your entire assessment. As a Maryland alumnus and watching Maryland go to the Big Ten a few years ago, there is no way FSU will jump to the Big 12. I believe that FSU is a better fit for the Big 10. Why? Florida State has invested into upgrading the research and academics. Not quite to AAU Standards, however that will change in a few years. Wonderful things are happening at FSU other than sports. Without a doubt, the Big 10 presidents are aware of it. Therefore, I believe FSU will have a landing spot in the Big 10 in the near future. I cannot see Clemson coming in. Just my thoughts.
@@michaelm2824 apparently, both the SEC & B1G feel FSU is being too disruptive amongst their ACC member institutions.
@@christopherhooter1937 I believe that the door is still open. I think it's logical for the SEC and the Big Ten to distance itself while the lawsuit is going on. Time will tell.
@michaelm2824 well, FSU for sure must exit ACC. They've put all their chips on the table. There's no backing out now.
BIG12 or the truck stop conference is a lawsuit prevention cover put out in the media by the SEC and BIG10. FSU is AAU standards based on a ranking of colleges at #53 which would it at about the 7th ot 8th best BIG10 school by academic standards. The sell point is a football standard in a new recruiting market. It is a shot into SEC. Plus, the FSU AD came from Indiana. AAU is a political joke with the prep school in Coral Gables being an AAU school.
@michaelm2824 what major American Public University is NOT investing in upgrading. That's hardly unique to FSU
Wow, the Brett McMurphy article exposes what other leagues think of how FSU is perceived by other conference officials is alarming. FSU is not getting an invite to the SEC or Big Ten. Looks like the Big 12 or stay in ACC. Not a good look for FSU
It’s amusing to see people just invent facts.
The Big 10 ❤ FSU
Florida State is looked at more like Louisville, NC State, Pittsburg, Central Florida and in that light the Big 12 is probably the best FSU will get.
@@IndyGuy65 Lol, ok Flyover Country Guy. 3 rings, just remember
As an alum of a school in the Big 12, I don’t believe Clemson and FSU will end up in the Big 12. However, Jason was nails during the Pac saga. A lot of things would have to happen for this to happen
You went on quite a rant about Jason.
Shutup.
This video might be your greatest work to date. Thanks TJ
Why do you hate the BIG 12 . KEEP HATING THE BIG 12 chumps watch what happens
It's not believable to me because of 1 fact. Not just the fact of Arizona schools, Kansas schools, and Ohio. But FSU in the Big 12 would mean Miami eventually joins. There's still no plausible way the SEC sits and watches the Big 12 with FSU, and Clemson have 7 schools in Texas and Florida. That would change recruiting so drastically. I just don't buy it.
Supposedly the SEC according to that college football guy offered FSU and Clemson membership for half share and they declined. ESPN didn't want to offer more.
Those ACC schools in Florida and the Big12 schools in Texas haven’t affected how the SEC recruits. Hasn’t hurt the SEC at all in recruiting. The SEC doesn’t have schools in California, Arizona, Ohio or North Carolina but the fact remains that the SEC recruits extremely well in those states. It’s a false narrative that a conference needs to have a school in a state to open it up to recruiting. False.
The last time I heard the B1G say “we’re not interested in adding more teams” they turned right around and added Oregon and Washington. I don’t believe these rumors for a second. & Anyone that doesn’t think either the SEC or the B1G wouldn’t both love to have FSU and Clemson doesn’t understand the fundamental concept of value.
Well now the same accounts are claiming smu is gonna sue fsu if they leave because of the media deal they made lmao it's all absurd
I think you may be in for a BIG 12 surprise! Already FSU has two venture capital companies interested in their future. Also the new Big 12 Commissioner comes from Wall Street and again has two other venture capital companies willing to step up!
We have come to place in college football where it is NOW BIG BUSINESS!
I have been an entrepreneur for over 5 decades and believe me though I am not happy with the way things are going it is HERE TO STAY!
FSU andClemson headed to Big 10 or SEC once litigation is settled with ACC. Less than 2percent chance of a third option which includes Big 12 and others. Notre Dame could create some interesting scenarios with added interest and cash from networks.
Add Florida State, Clemson and Notre Dame to the XII and you have a legitimate Power Three. 😮
I don't think it would be that long.
Disappointed with fake news. If I don’t hear it on the FSU podcasts I do not believe it. If this happens in sports where else is this happening? Sad and I hate it.
False news for sure
If I were an FSU or Clemson fan, I wouldn't be looking forward to having Texas Tech and TCU coming to town compared to having LSU, Bama, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Auburn coming to town. I know it probably won't happen, but I wouldn't mind having FSU and Clemson in the SEC, though. Plus the traveling would be way easier for both fan bases and schools compared to the Big 12 let alone the Big Ten. Great video man keep it up.
For reasons like UGa, non-support, many SeC presidents non-support-FSU is not now receiving an invite to join SeC.
Simple question. Can the Big 12 increase the revenue to FSU to make it roughly equal to the Gators? Answer, No. Not even close. FSU has been very clear from day one, the only reason to leave the ACC is because it is possible to continue to be competitive with UF, and the other schools in the P2, when operating at a 30-50 million dollar a year deficit. Unless the Big 12 suddenly comes up with an extra 500 million bucks a year to pay every team in there conference an extra 30-40 million per year (which they won't) FSU ain't going there. Don't listen to the chatter from folks who no nothing.
How you know punk!
This guy just covered this stuff sooo much more logically than anyone else I have heard on TH-cam. Night and day difference to most others. Pay attention to what he’s saying if you are interested in this stuff beyond just playing conference fantasy draft (which I understand is what most people are doing).
That means a lot. I appreciate this comment a ton.
Seems other top tier conferences don’t want a team that sues its own conference.
Internal belief? What does that mean? There’s an “internal belief” in the Biden campaign that he’s sharp as a tack, fiercely probing, and asks difficult questions. C’mon man…media is getting ridiculous with all the click-bait!
This assessment tracks 1000%. All marketing BS. Ready for FSU to be settled and get to work in a new conference with more money
You are right about FSU being like Texas. They bother want to destroy the league they're in. Maybe we don't want FSU.
The answer is arrogance. FSU and Clemson were positive they had a home waiting for them in the P2. They don’t.
Operative word there is internal belief. Anybody who sees B12 news knows they kind to grasp onto anything and run with it.
Nothing changes, FSU/Clemson need to complete their legal battles and free themselves from the GOR and then evaluate their options. A lifetime of changes could happen in the next year.
We as the SEC would love to add Florida St. and Clemson. The problem is those teams are already in a league. You can't get remarried until there's a divorce. The SEC won't get involved in marital relationships. We'll get involved when the divorce is finalized. 😊
Didn’t they get involved in Texas and Oklahoma?
Yes, that's true but Texas and Oklahoma gave us that ultimatum, if you don't marry us the B1G will. Then we (SEC) set the date. 😁
@@tristramwest5344 hey man adultery is adultery 😂😂😂
Tristra, this post makes no sense. The SEC decides who it invites. WDE!
All these things are just stuff thrown on the wall until practice starts as it is probably already decided where Clemson and FSU end up (HINT: Not the Big12.) . We had all this talk about the PAC and the only shocking thing was Cal & Stanford to the ACC, which won't be a thing soon & Cal and Stanford will be where they were when the PAC died.
Big12 is not a lateral move for FSU/Clemson. Every week in football would be a grind, and there’s no easy layups. As to basketball, FSU and Clemson would be the bottomfeeders.
It would be a step-down not lateral
It would certainly be lateral movement....... If not a step down. That conference is a dumpster fire in football. Which happens to be the biggest money maker. So it's what matters in this sense. Literally like 2 weeks per season would be a grind. Period. Maybe 2 weeks. Without Oklahoma and Texas that conference is weaker than the acc
Absolutely it is a lateral move. Plus add in the extra travel costs, its better for Clemson and FSU to stay in the ACC until their contract runs out
In football it's definitely a step down, the Big 12 now without OU and Texas is a bottom feeder football conference
Lateral, stop smoking the monkey tail.
I agree with pretty much everything you said minus, if FSU and Clemson were in neither conference the ACC is better. That's where I think you are incorrect. Miami has empty stands, bad viewership numbers. Oklahoma state and Utah are better football programs than anything after FSU and Clemson.
No big12 and what’s with the Miami attachment to FSU. Why don’t they file a lawsuit or will they ride the coattails of FSU and who many have been critical of.
I keep wondering why it seems everybody attaches FSU and Miami. I am sure FSU would not require that Miami is included.
You file it.
FSU and Clemson is SEC only issue is that conference has both states and markets covered. BIG AAU status may be bigger then what most think. BIG will not sit by allow this Truck stop conference called Big 12 get those schools you are outside your mind. Mark my words it will be BIG if AAU status does not apply like most says
I can't wait for football season.
When I first heard the quote out of context from dellenger I did a double take…. Once I learned the context it made much more sense. I wish I could share a screen shot here but last year when Colorado officially went to the big 12 there was an article saying “internal sources would be “stunned” if Oregon and Washington made it in the the big ten. They aren’t that marketable they have to make it work with the pac 12 or join the big 12”
Sound familiar?
Then when sankey and petiti come out and say “we are focused on our member schools.”
Oh you know what the door is closed over there. I would be “stunned” if FSU and Clemson wound up in the B1G or SEC.
Do anyone really think even if they were talking in back rooms through third parties they would say “yea we want them. We are actually fighting over them right now”
😂 enjoy the Big12 FSU and Clemson. I never bought any of the pro FSU rumor hype
All honesty if FSU ends up in the BIG 12 id definitely cancel my Booster donations
Joining the Big 12 makes no sense. Getting rid of the ACC Bottom Feeders makes more sense & invite in WVA, UU, OkSt.
@@BigJohnNewsChannel smu , cal, Stanford that doesn’t make sense.
Sounds like Yormark is plying some hard sell tactics attempting to anger FSU and Clemson at the P2 and selling them on the Big12. Was he a used car salesman before he became commissioner.
Big 12 OK , Clemson and FSU want 70 million starting year one.
I agree with you 1000000% about fans being HIGHLY upset if we went to the Big 12. Honestly, I would lose A LOT of respect for FSU administration if they put all of us through these law suits and drama to push for us getting into one of the "real" conferences, only to settle for a Big 12 invite. It would be FSU making the same mistake again that it made in 1991. Love Bobby Bowden, always have, but the man wasn't perfect and bypassing the SEC for the ACC was a bad call. But, those years are gone and the sour taste in the mouths of FSU fans when it comes to ESPN and the SEC has really pushed where the only conference that is left is the B1G. And yes, AAU status is a "thing" but not all B1G members are part of it anymore (Nebraska being kicked out) and no disrespect to USF people, but South Florida, basically a glorified commuter school, getting into the AAU over FSU, one of the state's flagship universities, has really diminished the prestige of the AAU in my opinion. FSU should get in the next round, but I don't see the AAU as academically prestigious as I once thought it was since they gave the nod to USF. Just my opinion...in summation...HARD NO on Big 12 invite!
Especially when you go to the Big 12 and start losing games regularly to a bunch of no names😂
The ACC for years paid more than any other conference and the SEC was a crap league until nick saban went to LSU on the early 2000’s. If you remember Auburn was left out of the 2004 NC game for OU and USC because of the poor play of the SEC.
I think the new twist is ND and Stanford rumored to the Big 10... The SEC seems to prefer UNC and Virginia over FSU and Clemson.
You are correct. I also heard the BIG is interested in Texas A&M and have had backdoor conversations with them. ND is being stubborn about Independence though.
@ChrisSadowski-pp1np unfortunately for FSU ND the brand that they really want and will let them pick whoever they want to come in with
@@craigmorris3055 that would be Stanford. The BIG Presidents wanted to add them last year but the network wouldn't fund it. ND brings in enough revenue if added to cover Stanford if that's the team they want.
B1G would love ND, they would take them over any team but no way would they turn down adding FSU or Clemson and have a footprint directly in SEC territory to take Stanford
@jodylane9889 Stanford is ND longtime rivalry, and the reason Stanford is in the ACC. If ND wants, it will absolutely happen. The combo of FSU and Clemson don't match ND alone.
I think what people are starting to see is that maybe FSU and Clemson don't have the cache as they think I want to be wrong about that. Look how the SEC went after OU and Texas. I know those are much bigger brands than FSU and Clemson, but they were definitely outward about that. It just doesn't look like they care right now. And you keep hearing the schools they want are UNC and Virginia over FSU and Clemson..
As bad as FSU has made the ACC look, the ACC is better than the Big12. No doubt about it and if FSU joins the Big12 it will be the final blunder for FSU.
Neither FSU nor Clemson is going anywhere anytime soon. All this other chatter is just fantasy talk 🤷♂️
See you soon Notre Dame! I am inevitable.
Sincerely,
The Big Ten
only clicked this video because it's your channel. This narrative is just another troll against FSU
Appreciate you still checking it out. I tried to rant for 20 minutes on how much BS it was... 😂
Well I don't know if he is correct or not but I remember last year the Pac12 folks said the same things and now there is no pac12 left. He got it from someone inside the BIG12 bro your not going to discredit Jason
Addressed this directly in the video. Appreciate the comment.
Now my question is wouldn't it make sense if the BIG and SEC don't want FSU and Clemson wouldn't it make sense for the two schools to go to the BIG12 until the next media deal in 2030? They would get out of the ACC 12 year GOR
I don't think it's true that the Big 10 and SEC don't want FSU/Clem. I think they have to say this until FSU/Clem are out from their agreements.
Answer though - no -- ESPN isn't going to renew contract with ACC so FSU/Clem could be out in 2027.
In that case they'd be better off staying in the acc for those years and make it cheaper to get out . Why pay probably over 200m to get the same pay out in another conference
Yeah I agree. I’m more of a Big 12 fan and I don’t see FSU and Clemson joining the Big 12 unless Yormark has some way to significantly increase their revenue share and the SEC and B1G pass on them. Even then it would potentially be a short term move. But then again I didn’t think the PAC 12 would die like it did, so who knows.
I don't understand why it would be so bad. Why would you go play second fiddle to Alabama or Ohio State. If the money is good why not.
Because the money is not good. 2nd fiddle to Ohio State? How so?
Even if the money was right, the reality is the B12 and ACC is viewed as a second tier conference behind the SEC and B1G. Not as many opportunities are given when you’re viewed that way. For that reason alone it should be P2 or bust.
You’d have the same prob in Big 12 that you did in ACC..lack of reputation and respect in football. P2 or bust for FSU
Come again? FSU is 4-0 against OSU, 2-1 against Michigan, and 37-6-1 all-time against B1G.
@LoCoVANole ....difference is FSU won't be playing in Sunny FL in Nov. They're going have to come to the north and play us northern schools. Let see if you pretty boys from down south can get hit hard and breathe in the artic air.
No they won't. Check Kstate record against Texas.
WHY LEAVE THE ACC TO GO TO THE BIG 12-- WHAT IS THE POINT
Look In Clause
Hello Noles Nation. Go Clemson. This B12 stuff is nonsense.
The Big 10 or SEC teams aren't going to take a pay cut to add FSU or Clemson. Tier 2 at best
@@wvgolfnut1 That just Elitist B10 thinking. Clemson is 4-1 vs Ohio St all time. Never played Michigan. Clemson is 1-0 vs Penn St. The heavy weights of B10. Clemson played in 6 straight CFP and won 2. Clemson is Tier 1 most definitely.
@@wvgolfnut1 Clemson and Florida St are both better takes than Oregon and Washington.
Clemson and Florida St would elevate either SEC or B10 tv revenues. Plus both schools are in top 3 of the fastest growing states. South Carolina #2 & Florida #3.
You ought to have a live debate with Knumbskull News.
“Just like Texas and Oklahoma that beat our heads in.”
Since the conference was established in 1996, Texas has had a total of four Big 12 Championships. FOUR. Only one more than Kansas State and Baylor.
Can we please quit the narrative about how much Texas was running the Big 12 from a football standpoint? Sure they had some solid years, but they’ve been heavily mediocre throughout its time in the Big 12, and tended to underperform against the less talented teams.
Hell honestly you can argue that Florida State is the Texas of the ACC. The one thing the Seminoles have going is the national championship in 2013. Since then, it’s been Clemson running the show, while Florida State was playing to the level of Wake Forest and NC State every year.
So, Texas *and* Oklahoma was not accurate?
Did you see the reports from Brett McMirphy today? Neither B10 or SEC wants FSU or Clemson
I did see it. Since it was FSU only (not Clemson, as your comment says), I did a video on it over on Double Fries No Slaw.
Does it make sense for FSU to be going to BIG10 and playing in all cold weather stadiums on the road???
Flughar is adamant we arent 1st choice of BiG or SEC
Believe him?
@CFBAddiction Trying to piece it all together. He was right in a huge way twice since this started and has said we will get there but not first. Notre Dame holds all the aces here. North Carolina may be using us and our legal struggles to better themselves. Lot of floating pieces in play here! No one knows everything. I say Independence for a couple years personally. Maybe side deal with Big 12 to pay the bills until we are in position to call our shot!!
@CFBAddiction Our relationships are shaky due to our outright distain for the ACC. I call it Trump Syndrome. Not what we say but the force we're saying it!!
You're not. Look at it from another perspective other than an FSU fan. FSU/Clemson add nothing to the SEC. Football? We already have that (and a bunch of it.) We are focused on other areas now. We have moved on. Good Luck with the ACC/Big10/Big12.
@@TheOracleOfTH-cam Will laugh when they announce in first party talks once Discovery is near. SeCPN does NOT WANT THAT!!
18:23 end of conversation
That's not happening
What if the Big 12 is offering to pay the exit fee for them?
Great question.
I don't think the presidents of other schools would approve $200M +, but suppose they did...
FSU is essentially in the same spot they were in with the ACC. They're making about the same amount of money in the B12 as they did before they went scorched earth to leave the conference.
@@CFBAddiction If they leave, they will take half of the TV rights with them. Either way, I won't believe it til it happens. I thought they were talking FSU, Clemson, Louisville, and Miami. Lol.
I think big 12 would have to offer a sweet heart deal to fsu and Clemson and land a few regional rivals… its a long shot
Not possible? What? FSU/Clemson to Big XII IS POSSIBLE. Probable? Not likely. Jason was not indicating possibilities, but rather than Big XII Insiders "internal belief". This is not and end all be all that FSU/Clemson will end up in New Big XII but rather individuals "Internal Beliefs". Chill people it's just reporting on beliefs which are not facts but hopes perhaps.
Hey! Good for you for realizing that Clemson and FSU are under contract. A whole lot of people seem to not understand that. That puts you above 90% of people commenting on this stuff. Good for you
I think the sec expands by 4. Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson, and fsu. B1G expands by 2 making both conferences 20
Carolina schools are stuck in the ACC due to delusional local politics and underwhelming football metrics.
It’s not happening anytime soon though. That’s the major point coming out of the SEC. It’s not that they will never expand. It’s that they don’t want to expand today or tomorrow. The B1G has just added four teams from another region and have just began a new media deal with three networks. The B1G is in no rush whatsoever to add anyone not named Notre Dame. FSU and Clemson may want to slow their roll and start doing some work on a realistic timeline that works for the B1G and/or SEC and their networks. For whatever reason, FSU and Clemson decided they had to move and it has to be right freaking now. Good luck with that as we see this circus play out. There are other schools that would like to make a move and yet, they aren’t running around like their hair is on fire.
These are smart people, I don’t think they would make a move without have some idea of where they are going to land…these people talk behind closed doors and off record all the time. They probably have a good idea of where they are going where ever that is. You spend millions getting out of a place with no place to go and recoup those millions. People will lose jobs for those kinds of moves
If they can get the money right the 'perception' part eill take care of itself. Texas did not dominate the Big 12 over the last 20 years and FSU would not either.
You're exactly correct. Texas got its ass kicked week in and week out in the past 15 years but because they had a great season last season that's all the media remembers and all they want to talk about they ignored the mediocrity
TL;DR FSU is too good for the B12
C'mon negotiating is still in progress. Above our pay grade. The Noles have been remarkably successful as an independent . As Miami and Notre Dame have . Keep more of your own money.
All this talk, blah blah blah. It's really pretty simple. It's actually just math. The Big 10 and SEC are both very strong as is - they don't need you. So it simply comes down to the dollars. Does adding FSU add enough revenue to make it worth it financially? If it does, it will happen, If it doesn't it will not.
Why file lawsuits and potentially pay a hundred million dollars for basically the same money in a weaker conference? Why would FSU join a G7 conference with no title contenders? The B12 wishes they could have FSU
I disagree that it would be a bad mood, because their principle problem is that they went undefeated and didn't get into the playoffs. The ACC is a basketball conference, and they want to be seen as football powerhouses. Bobby Bowden pissed off the SEC years ago, and Clemson idk if they would be accepted.
Texas got into the playoffs and had a worse season.
Also, big 12 is a decent basketball conference. I do disagree completely.
Finally, with current realignment trends it is clear that rivalries are not really that important to schools anymore
Rivalries are in fact very important to some schools and not important to others. But can’t lump them all together.
@@jansonroberts2616 Texas-Texas A&M, USC-Stanford, Michigan-Notre Dame, Texas-Texas Tech, OU-Ok State, Mizzou-Kansas, OU-Nebraska, Nebraska-Texas, and so many others.
@@baumer1986 how about all the rivalries that are still being played? Michigan/Ohio State? You think that one isn’t important? Seriously? Alabama/Auburn? Georgia/Florida? South Carolina/Clemson? Please, there are so many others that do matter.
This is all sad. TV has ruined regional relationships. The promotion of certain leagues and teams is self fulfilling. Maybe some in the so called big 2 are realizing that several years of 7 and 5 seasons the crowds will thin. Clemson and FSU might just be getting leverage. But ACC added SMU, Stanford and Cal. The Big 12 wouldn't take them Overall i know $ can change but its beyond our available knowledge.
We at FSU gain nothing by joining the Big12, I thought we wanted to get paid the same as SEC or B1G. Joining Big 12 pays the same as the ACC. I would rather stay in ACC but they are probably tired of our whining. To me independence is the best option.
I don't think it would happen. But that simply isn't true. It would automatically change CFP payouts. And I'm sure the TV money changes.
If you would've been an undefeated big 12 team, you wouldn't have missed the playoffs
Be quiet old man, shut your yap.🤬
Lateral, that’s an upgrade pops. Keep your yap shut.
I gave you the thumbs down 👎.
I don't think Florida State and Clemson get out without paying $300,000,000. If the SEC and BIG don't add them they are screwed BIG time. Most of FSU's fans sound just like the PAC-12 even after they lost 4 teams. Plus the BIG12 would be much closer in money to SEC and the BIG if they add teams such as Notre Dame, FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC and Duke for BB. Interesting times for sure.
The greedy 2 need to get out the ACC so the ACC can rest and move on. ACC was here before fs joined, like a bad relationship, the sooner the better.
Getting stuck in the Big 12 after all the fuss they've kicked up and all the shit FSU fans have talked would be hilarious
You lost me on the ACC being better at football then the Big 12. Just as silly as when you said Louisville was going to the B1G.
I don't get the notion that FSU has a choice where it gets invited. The Big 10 is at 18 schools and if the SEC wants to match that 18, which it don't have to. They would try to add UNC/UVA, because Greg Sankey keeps saying "only contiguous states."
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So what you are saying is they are going independent until the B1G or SEC do their next TV contract and hope they sign them. Because both have said they don't want Clemson and FSU. Good luck.
Since this all started, it seemed that FSU/Clemson was fighting someone else's battle (UNC/UVA.) Clemson fans seem to be coming out of the denial/anger stages and into the bargaining. FSU fans seem to be stuck in denial. Hope Clemson can make up with the ACC.
Let’s get Michigan in the sec.
This is all cope
I really enjoy your show but if SEC takes the carlolina and Virginia schools and stops and Big ten takes Notre Dame and Stanford and stops that a possibility
I still think the SEC and B1G would expand further than just those two each.
@CFBAddiction I agree but relationship matter I think Norte Dame may get to chose who go's with them like Cal Gt or Miami they all have a history with ND that how much big ten wants them and what if NC STATE AND VIRGINIA TACH have to go with North Carolina and Virginia to SEC sorry for so long text I would love FSU to big10
The Nile isnt just a river in Egypt! #denial
Lol
Running cover for fsu
Yall stink AND. your
Big 12 bound.
Big 10 and SEC passes on fsu and clemson. They dont need anymore Vandys. Lol. Spin spin spin
This video will not age well😂😂😂😂
The SEC or Big 10 teams aren't going to take a pay cut to add FSU or Clemson. Tier 2 at best
Most ACC schools are irrelevant nationally excluding fsu & clemson. BIG 12 is way ahead in fan interest and attendance.
Outside of OU and Texas who aren't in the Big 12 anymore, what exactly has a current B12 won on a national level in the last 50 years! Nothing! BYU national title was joke in 1984 with playing a 5 lose Michigan in their bowl game. Name schools not in the B10 or SEC now, who have won 3 or more national titles since 1981. Miami, Clemson and FSU are the only schools who have done that. The others schools are Alabama, LSU, Florida, OU and UGA!
@@arronfrazier7873 If Clemson and FSU are looking at each leagues B12 has Cincy and TCU which both made the playoffs Utah was a Pac 12 juggernaut. UCF 2 BCS bowl wins. Colorado has coach prime. MBB top conference. Baylor National Championship UM is one of your top schools and has never won the ACC. Wake BC, Syracuse Virginia ect. are all boring
@@2017NationalChamps I will repeat! Cincy and TCU haven't won a national title since 1980, let alone play for a chance of national multiple times. Miami, Clemson and FSU have done this. Also, when has Cincy and TCU been top 10 in recruiting in the last 40 years. Miami, Clemson and FSU have and can do this on the regular, specifically Miami and FSU because they are located in Florida fertile recruiting grounds.
@@arronfrazier7873 Miami FSU and Clemson are taking those champions with them who else you got ?
@@2017NationalChamps Are they taken those recruiting classes with them too!
Tried to tell you Fsu don't have the grades for Big 10 Clemp either and SEC don't want either of you Ga Tech going to Big Ten Fsu raised hell from this? Good luck with that Cole slaw
Sorry bud but TV ratings and viewership are driving this train. Georgia Tech has neither. What value does Georgia Tech football bring to the BiG 10. If it was strictly AAU they would have brought Stanford, Cal, Arizona, ASU, Utah, & Colorado. All had to go to the BiG 12 or ACC as they didn't bring the TV ratings with them.
@@Jokero0o0well BUD LIGHT if what you say is true bud light Fsu and clemp would be in the big 10 right? Ga Tech brings GA recruits bud light the best and most recruits in the USA BUD LIGHT
@@Jokero0o0besides budlight big 10 wanted Ga Tech few years back budlight now they are in ENGINEERS DRIVE TRAINS BUDLIGHT
Big 10 or sec not wanting Fsu or Clemson
Espnfox will never pay fsu $65-70m as long as the XII is an option. Unbreakable GOR, fsu is trapped for 13yrs end of story. The big has no access to any acc team because they are under contract with espn.
It matters not whether SEC wants them or not because espn pays the bills. Espn moves fsu to the XII.
This dude sounds scared shytless😂😂😂😂😂
It's leaked to make us look like we are on the market. It helps with negotiations with the B1G. Smart to make it seem like we have lots of options. Go Noles
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