Sorry this took so long, and sorry that it is as long as it is. I severely underestimated how many of these things Japan had. In hindsight, this was a mistake, since now my doom has been sealed and the American carrier video is inevitable. Also profuse apologies if I got anything blatantly wrong in this video, given its length its very likely that I did somewhere.
@@joshbenedetti1292 the us had a f ton of carriers And when you consider the us currently has 11 During ww2 we had over 100 carriers including the light ones and over 20 fleet carriers all at once
Japan - bug-uh … it’s a destroyer China - but it looks like an aircraft carrier Japan - just like your reefs look like military base in South China Sea China - oh, that’s different Lol Honestly I wonder which carriers would come off on top in an actual engagement, China’s or Japan’s. Me I’d put my money on Japan. But I wonder
@@pracylopgonzer3176an actual engagement would depend on so many other factors, not just the carriers themselves, that it would degrade to pointless bickering about details. But I also put my money on Japan, for now.
@@piglin469based on JMSDF naming doctrine, Probably that 'Yamato-of-Reiwa' ahh Missile Destroyer hotel that is the ASEV. Yeah, Akagi is named after a mountain, ALL of the AEGIS Destroyers are named after Mountains, who knows. Maybe they are naming the next ship 'Amagi' as well. Come on Japan. I want to see a modern warship named 'Amagi' next of a floating dock or Maintenance/Repair Dock made by the scraps of Battlecruiser Amagi
@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 (Mother of...) okay, there's an artist on danbooru by the name of "Sakazaki Freddy". When Kasuga Maru was implemented in Kantai Collection, he posted an image bringing up how the design in-game was based on that original picture and someone commented on there with a link to said picture.
I'm honestly surprised the CNO didn't arrest BuOrd admin for willful criminal negligence. When told their equipment didn't work, by DOZENS of trained ship commanders, AND being given a couple workarounds, they demanded the courtmartial of the commanders who dared to question them.
@@Isolder74 Right! There was one time an American submarine emptied its entire torpedo load on a Japanese ship and they were all duds. I’m surprised nobody in the ordnance bureau got court-marshaled over how bad the torpedoes were and worse, how they refused to look into the problem.
@@Isolder74at first they claimed “okay there were a few problems,” after Admiral King twisted their arm behind their back and had them on the ground. Admiral King, knowing the horrific systemic issues with the torpedoes twisted the flunkie’s arm even harder and threatened to break it which caused the flunky to go “OKAY OKAY, IT’S A TOTAL PIECE OF CRAP WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE ISSUED!” At which point actual systemic changes were indeed made.
Even with the torpedo hiccups the Americans still sank a HUGE amount of tonnage... imagine how high those numbers would be if the torpedoes got sorted out quicker
I clicked this because I love Submarines... Knew two were lost to them. Was going to count nevermind. ... Still gonna try Attacks/Encounters 37 Sunk 16 . . . God damn the Silent Service was ravenous
At the beginning of this series I thought that carriers were lame because they invalidated battleships and big guns make brain go monke mode. But after watching all these videos I have realized aircraft carriers slap. I’m excited to see the future videos of this series if Spartan chooses to continue it.
The thing with Japanese light AA is that it is a cheap version of an already subpar AA gun. The 25mm had a shaky mount and also was abysmal in reload and in really every other aspect. So they indeed needed that enormous amount to hope to be effective. Just imagine tho if that german uboat actually did give the Japanese the technical details on the German 2cm FlaK, could have made the Japanese AA go from "it supposed to work" to "ah its actually somewhat effective", still wont change a damned thing but yeah it is funny how bad their 25mil was which almost wants to make you pity them.
Another major problem the IJN had was there just wasn't a "medium-caliber" AA gun. It was basically the 25mm, then 4-in and 5-in guns, and that was it. If US planes got through the heavy stuff, and they probably would, there wasn't really anything to oppose them until after weapon drop. Basically every other navy had a 20ish-mm, then a 37mm or 40mm, then 105ish-mm and 127ish-mm guns, with a smattering of 75ish-mm and 90ish-mm guns around the different navies.
You know what's funnier? IJN have access to smaller but marginally better gun than the 25mm, their 20mm Type 99 which has a moveable mount they use in bomber turrets, and land installations and can be belt-fed... But for some obtuse reason they think a ww1 designed hotchkiss machine gun upscaled to 25mm can do better, when it can hardly track planes, vibrates like a jackhammer, a low rate of fire, and has 5 rounds of ammo in the magazine not helping the fire rate issue
@@kulot-ki1tuAhh the Essex class. The longest serving World War II Vintage carriers. The last one leaving service iiinnn… What… 1991?!? The Midway class technically is the longest serving carrier class in History with it only leaving service in 1992, but they aren’t Vintage World War II as the first midway was completed 8 days after Japan’s big “Not in japan’s favor” cope declaration.
Japanese Admirals: “My child will use a combination of Armor, guns and speed to out gun and destroy the enemy.” American Admirals: *”Deploy the swarm”*
Hello. I am Japanese and I am watching this video from Japan. I have a lot of concerns about the capability of the Hyuga, Ise, Kaga and Izumo modern Japanese naval vessels as aircraft carriers. Last month, the bow flight deck of the Kaga was heated by the jet thrust of an F35 raising its nose on take-off, causing part of the personnel fall barrier to melt off. There are also questions about the storage space for aviation fuel, ammunition and spare parts and the number of maintenance crews to use them effectively, as well as the fact that the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force is extremely seriously short of sailors in the first place. At present, I feel that it can only be used for air defence on a limited, small scale or at sea in place of a crash-landing airfield, such as the US Navy's F-35. Some Japanese naval researchers are of the opinion that Japan should change its policy to building satellite-photographed suicide attack drone carriers, which are believed to be built by Communist China.
You sent me through a reading spree on unmanned naval aviation, it’s fascinating watching the rise of drones in navies, and I’d be intrigued if Japan listens to those researchers, suicide drones have been effective in recent conflicts.
I'd argue her damage control failures sealed her fate, had those been better Taiho probably would've made it home. Not that it would've ultimately made a difference, but still
Still patiently waiting for the 3 hour long US video. All I can say is please go over the US ranger and her role in the battle of the Atlantic we always here about the Pacific but never much about the Atlantic. (Also the Greyhound movie is awesome fight me over it)
Imagine showing the memes here to someone who doesn't understand anything about Azur Lane or carriers in general... actually, I might just do that with my mom
Sooooo question is how long is the American aircraft carrier video gonna be (EXPECIALLY for our favorite grey ghost)[edit: To be fair CV-6 deserves her own full video considering how much shit she went through]
Sorry this took so long, and sorry that it is as long as it is. I severely underestimated how many of these things Japan had. In hindsight, this was a mistake, since now my doom has been sealed and the American carrier video is inevitable.
Also profuse apologies if I got anything blatantly wrong in this video, given its length its very likely that I did somewhere.
Can't wait for the 5 hour video on American Carriers
@@coffeemonster2825 wait, wut?
Whare is it
@@joshbenedetti1292 the us had a f ton of carriers
And when you consider the us currently has 11
During ww2 we had over 100 carriers including the light ones and over 20 fleet carriers all at once
@@Enterprise6126 if he ever do the american i think he need to break it up by year and type so a group of videos
China - "that looks like an aircraft carrier, you can't have that"
Japan - "nuh-uh"
Japan - bug-uh … it’s a destroyer
China - but it looks like an aircraft carrier
Japan - just like your reefs look like military base in South China Sea
China - oh, that’s different
Lol
Honestly I wonder which carriers would come off on top in an actual engagement,
China’s or Japan’s. Me I’d put my money on Japan. But I wonder
@@pracylopgonzer3176an actual engagement would depend on so many other factors, not just the carriers themselves, that it would degrade to pointless bickering about details. But I also put my money on Japan, for now.
@@pracylopgonzer3176 Japan must rebuild my beloved Akagi to win
@@piglin469based on JMSDF naming doctrine,
Probably that 'Yamato-of-Reiwa' ahh Missile Destroyer hotel that is the ASEV.
Yeah, Akagi is named after a mountain, ALL of the AEGIS Destroyers are named after Mountains, who knows. Maybe they are naming the next ship 'Amagi' as well.
Come on Japan. I want to see a modern warship named 'Amagi' next of a floating dock or Maintenance/Repair Dock made by the scraps of Battlecruiser Amagi
@@piglin469ok weeb
Fun fact: The NYK Line commissioned a picture of three shipgirls representing Taiyou, Un'you, and Chuuyou after their maiden voyages in 1940-41.
Is it possible to provide a link to the sauce? Because I want to see what they look like.
@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 otakei.otakuma.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/210.jpg
@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 Uhhh... can you see the second reply to the top-level comment? I can see it but when I log out, it disappears.
@@Eboreg2 No, like you I can't see.
@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 (Mother of...) okay, there's an artist on danbooru by the name of "Sakazaki Freddy". When Kasuga Maru was implemented in Kantai Collection, he posted an image bringing up how the design in-game was based on that original picture and someone commented on there with a link to said picture.
Great video man!
Jeez never realized how unlucky Japan is with Carriers.
Things went to shit once the American subs got torpedoes that actually worked lmao
@@Spartan761 just like the japanese shipping just died when the subs got descent torps
I'm honestly surprised the CNO didn't arrest BuOrd admin for willful criminal negligence. When told their equipment didn't work, by DOZENS of trained ship commanders, AND being given a couple workarounds, they demanded the courtmartial of the commanders who dared to question them.
@@Reepicheep-1 Or dared to modify their perfect torpedo.
"Certified Bureau of Ordnance moment" had me rolling.
There was a lot of that.
@@Isolder74 Right! There was one time an American submarine emptied its entire torpedo load on a Japanese ship and they were all duds. I’m surprised nobody in the ordnance bureau got court-marshaled over how bad the torpedoes were and worse, how they refused to look into the problem.
@@EyeOfMagnus4E201 Well until Admiral King showed up in their office. Sempter Iratus.
@@Isolder74at first they claimed “okay there were a few problems,” after Admiral King twisted their arm behind their back and had them on the ground. Admiral King, knowing the horrific systemic issues with the torpedoes twisted the flunkie’s arm even harder and threatened to break it which caused the flunky to go “OKAY OKAY, IT’S A TOTAL PIECE OF CRAP WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE ISSUED!”
At which point actual systemic changes were indeed made.
Even with the torpedo hiccups the Americans still sank a HUGE amount of tonnage... imagine how high those numbers would be if the torpedoes got sorted out quicker
crazy how shinano managed to sink 100 years before being launched
Superior technology
Superior technology
Shit was so superior bro had to say it twice 😂
@@Itashasarecool yes Superior technology time machine shinano
anyone notice for Shinano that it was constructed in 1940 but sunk in 1844? 41:46
Superior Japanese time warping ability
@@justsomehaatonpassingby4488
glorious nippon space time continuum folded 1000 time!
Isekai powers.
I’m glad you uploaded again I love your videos love from Pakistan
cool
now do every American escort carrier
And Essex and Independence class
Funny can’t wait for the 2 hour documentary
If he did every American carrier, that'd be a five hour long video.
And the next pair of "Definitely not a Carrier China" should be named Shokaku and Zuikaku
lesson learned: the greatest enemy to the US submarines was the Bureau of Ordinance
Well it only makes things fair. The IJN's greatest enemy was the IJA after all.
Fun Fact: Who would like to know when the JSDMF will own a ship named Akagi. They have her, but now she's a patrol boat.
This is an impressive project. 10/10
I clicked this because I love Submarines... Knew two were lost to them.
Was going to count nevermind.
... Still gonna try
Attacks/Encounters 37
Sunk 16
. . .
God damn the Silent Service was ravenous
At the beginning of this series I thought that carriers were lame because they invalidated battleships and big guns make brain go monke mode. But after watching all these videos I have realized aircraft carriers slap. I’m excited to see the future videos of this series if Spartan chooses to continue it.
Yeah I sunk 200+ British ships in Hearts Of Iron 4 with just carriers.
The thing with Japanese light AA is that it is a cheap version of an already subpar AA gun. The 25mm had a shaky mount and also was abysmal in reload and in really every other aspect.
So they indeed needed that enormous amount to hope to be effective. Just imagine tho if that german uboat actually did give the Japanese the technical details on the German 2cm FlaK, could have made the Japanese AA go from "it supposed to work" to "ah its actually somewhat effective", still wont change a damned thing but yeah it is funny how bad their 25mil was which almost wants to make you pity them.
Another major problem the IJN had was there just wasn't a "medium-caliber" AA gun. It was basically the 25mm, then 4-in and 5-in guns, and that was it. If US planes got through the heavy stuff, and they probably would, there wasn't really anything to oppose them until after weapon drop. Basically every other navy had a 20ish-mm, then a 37mm or 40mm, then 105ish-mm and 127ish-mm guns, with a smattering of 75ish-mm and 90ish-mm guns around the different navies.
You know what's funnier? IJN have access to smaller but marginally better gun than the 25mm, their 20mm Type 99 which has a moveable mount they use in bomber turrets, and land installations and can be belt-fed... But for some obtuse reason they think a ww1 designed hotchkiss machine gun upscaled to 25mm can do better, when it can hardly track planes, vibrates like a jackhammer, a low rate of fire, and has 5 rounds of ammo in the magazine not helping the fire rate issue
Underrated channel
That one guy (most of us here) waiting for the USA carriers
🍷🗿
A narrative masterpiece !
Wait till he dose the US carriers
10 hour video
Because God damn the us went crazy in ww2 making over 100 of the things
@@Enterprise6126 lol
the essex swarm will blacken the ocean and the sky simultaneously
@@kulot-ki1tuAhh the Essex class.
The longest serving World War II Vintage carriers.
The last one leaving service iiinnn…
What… 1991?!?
The Midway class technically is the longest serving carrier class in History with it only leaving service in 1992, but they aren’t Vintage World War II as the first midway was completed 8 days after Japan’s big “Not in japan’s favor” cope declaration.
Japanese Admirals: “My child will use a combination of Armor, guns and speed to out gun and destroy the enemy.”
American Admirals: *”Deploy the swarm”*
Japanese aircraft carriers: exists
Submarines: and I took that personally
These videos are freaking great
Hello. I am Japanese and I am watching this video from Japan.
I have a lot of concerns about the capability of the Hyuga, Ise, Kaga and Izumo modern Japanese naval vessels as aircraft carriers.
Last month, the bow flight deck of the Kaga was heated by the jet thrust of an F35 raising its nose on take-off, causing part of the personnel fall barrier to melt off.
There are also questions about the storage space for aviation fuel, ammunition and spare parts and the number of maintenance crews to use them effectively, as well as the fact that the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force is extremely seriously short of sailors in the first place.
At present, I feel that it can only be used for air defence on a limited, small scale or at sea in place of a crash-landing airfield, such as the US Navy's F-35.
Some Japanese naval researchers are of the opinion that Japan should change its policy to building satellite-photographed suicide attack drone carriers, which are believed to be built by Communist China.
You sent me through a reading spree on unmanned naval aviation, it’s fascinating watching the rise of drones in navies, and I’d be intrigued if Japan listens to those researchers, suicide drones have been effective in recent conflicts.
Ships are given the suffix maru cuz they want the ships to come back port after encircling=completing their route and voyage, hence the maru=circle
Taihou was near lucky one of the two torpedo was blocked by a brave pilot but yes the other hit her sealed her fate.
I'd argue her damage control failures sealed her fate, had those been better Taiho probably would've made it home. Not that it would've ultimately made a difference, but still
The "flying machines"/pseudo helicopters were autogyros (which haveunpowered rotors). They have low stall speed, and were used for ASW duties.
My grandfather was on three hellships, hofuku Oryoku and Brazil , survived them all. Sadly thousands of fepows killed by allied bombings .
love how he just doesn't talk about how the tower on Akagi was also on the Port Side
Drinking game idea take a shot everytime a submarine sinks a carrier
Can confirm *"Sumarines"*
Kaga is back! Better than her former past self xD
Wtf 46 minutes? Im spoiled
"And now for the Army carriers . . ."
Thank you for the video very nice👍
Lmao so the sinking of Shinano instantly makes you a sub ace due to tonnage. Nice.
Still patiently waiting for the 3 hour long US video. All I can say is please go over the US ranger and her role in the battle of the Atlantic we always here about the Pacific but never much about the Atlantic. (Also the Greyhound movie is awesome fight me over it)
I like sumarines, too.
How could a scuttled ship have 700 casualties (soryu)? did they not wait till all crew were evacuated before giving the scuttle order??
The bane of all IJN Carriers: USS Enterprise and US submarines
Imagine showing the memes here to someone who doesn't understand anything about Azur Lane or carriers in general... actually, I might just do that with my mom
Kaga and Akagi best step-sister carriers ^^
more 40 minute videos
Where Taihou chibi?!?!?!?!?
You forgot Isa and Hyuga.
For the cute chibi carriers...
There... is chibi merch, right?
Sooooo question is how long is the American aircraft carrier video gonna be (EXPECIALLY for our favorite grey ghost)[edit: To be fair CV-6 deserves her own full video considering how much shit she went through]
45:16 New kaga just dropped
26:30 nooooo Amagi my fav ship sinking to a fucking earthquake. Hope that doesn't foreshadow anything bad for Japan and earthquakes.
Talking about SUBMARINES that much..... Where IS I-400?
TENNO HEIKA BANZAI!!!!
American CVs after Midway📈📈📈📈
Japanese CVs after Midway 📉📉📉📉
IJN carriers are food to USN Submarines
Do you see torpedo -boats- submarines?
Maru being circle is meant to imply a round trip, like yhe ship will survive its journey. fuck if I know why this is a thing either
28:05 bombed by Dick Best. Aka Richard Halsey Best. Yes related to that Halsey
Had to play at .95 and it was still a little fast lmao
Yoink
Why I am still watching? Euuuh good video mate, funny and informative, never knew they had more bloody carriers than braincells
why so much cussing???
Because its fun i guess
In my book, the word "cussing" is worse than any curse word.
So god damn infantile - Specially since this is a video about
giant death machines.
People complain over anything 😂
Why not?
Love your video, but you’re wrong IJN Taihoe if she had a crew that knew what damage control was😂
Love your channel.
YOU MUST BE IN YOUR MIDDLE 20’s Judging by you language every 2nd or 3rd word !
I could live without the colorful metaphor s. You seem to have a good knowledge of history. What a waste to spoiling it