Really good information! I'm really looking forward to beginning the process of receiving my dual citizenship! It was very helpful to speak with one of your agents in your firm, Irene Mancini! She was so helpful. Thank you both!
I think (correct me if I am wrong) that there is a slight disadvantage in that as a dual US / Italian citizen, your Social Security will be taxed in Italy if you are living there whereas if you remain a foreigner in Italy, your Social Security is NOT taxed.
What I have heard is that this is true for a “government pension.” A “government pension” as defined under the tax treaty is a pension someone earned by working for federal, state or local government (perhaps including military service?) but our regular social security pension is not included in this exemption. I would be very happy to be proved wrong on this, though.
@@iseolake Yeah, I don't believe 401K, 403B nor IRA (Traditional or Roth) accounts are protected either. I wish that would be addressed but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm confused. if a EU-citizen purchases a property in Italy (and pays property taxes there) and lives less than 183 days a year in Italy, can he still be registered in the italian municipality and receive (free) healthcare??
I was hoping there might be commentary on any *taxation* advantages/disadvantages between the two choices. More specifically, I am thinking about the 7% tax rate on outside, passive income (as in retirement income) with legal residency (southern regions & exceptions) via the Elective Residence Visa: Can the 7% tax rate apply to someone gaining Citizenship who meets the same criteria?
I bought property in Italy 6 years ago 2018 and have a 6 month resident permit that needs renewal every 6 months. I applied for citizenship in my local comune in Italy in September 2024. How long will it take to receive my Italian passport? Do I need to also apply in the USA 🇺🇸 ? Thank You
I did a little research and according to what I found online, we can only qualify for Italian Citizenship if my husband's father did not renounce his Italian citizenship BEFORE he/my husband was born .... wellllll, we have a death certificate that indicates my husband's father was a U.S. citizen. I can only assume that when my husband's father immigrated here he had to renounce his citizenship in order to become a U.S. citizen. My husband is the second born son, but all children are first born here in U.S. My husband and I would love to have dual citizenship, what do we do/where do we start to find out if it is possible for us?
I wouldn't lose hope until you actually find documentation that shows the date he renounced. Typicially, a geneology records request to the USCIS will find this kind of stuff. For my great grandfather, they found an Affidavit of Support, Certificate of Examination, Petition for Naturalization, and his actual Citizenship Certificate which all confirmed that he renounced his citizenship to join the military when my grandmother was 13yo. So, not a bad idea to start looking into that and see what they can dig up. www.uscis.gov/records/genealogy
keep in mind what counts here is italian law, not american law. getting citizenship might be a form of renouncing for american purposes, but the italians are murkier on this subject and usually he'd have to formally renounce (which is rare, esp back then, because ... why?). Instead, though , it was very very common for the wife never to bother getting american citizenship, since the primary purposes was to be able to work outside the home, and if she never became an american then your husband's mother may be the italian ancestor that it's much easier to trace through. definitely talk to an italian immigration specialist lawyer like Marco, or others , because the rules evolve over time. What was true 10-20 years ago (that it was a bit harder to trace thru maternal lines) is now easier thanks to the EU forcing member states to lighten up on gender-specific interpretation of rules like this
My recommendation would be to file a genealogy records request with the USCIS. They should be able to provide you with any documentation related to his renouncing (if he did at all) and becoming a U.S. citizen. I wouldn't give up until you have actually seen documentation with dates that give you the exact timeline of what happened. For my great grandfather the USCIS was able to provide the Affidavit of Support, Certificate of Examination, Petition for Naturalization and the Citizenship Certificate showing that he renounced to join the military, well after my grandmother was born. Since you are only going back one generation, there is a good chance that the USCIS has complete records.
If your husband's father was born in the US and his father was still an Italian cit (not US naturalized yet), then his father was automatically both. Not sure where he was born. In my case, my mother was born in the US (1934) before my GF was naturalized as a US citizen (1945), so again she was an Italian and US cit automatically. GF born in Italy.
I have a question, I lived in Italy for 15 years with Italian Citizenship (which i recieved with residency and im registered with A.I.R.E.) before moving to England with my family in 2015, if i were to get a uk nationality despite having a Italian one, would that terminate my italian one or would it stay. also im a dual national, Italy and my home country. Thank you for your content I appriciate it
I know for non citizens there are agreements to prevent double taxation; what about dual citizens that are from countries that tax based on citizenship rather than residency (specifically people from the U.S.)? Are they protected from double taxation if they live in Italy?
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Really good information! I'm really looking forward to beginning the process of receiving my dual citizenship! It was very helpful to speak with one of your agents in your firm, Irene Mancini! She was so helpful. Thank you both!
I think (correct me if I am wrong) that there is a slight disadvantage in that as a dual US / Italian citizen, your Social Security will be taxed in Italy if you are living there whereas if you remain a foreigner in Italy, your Social Security is NOT taxed.
What I have heard is that this is true for a “government pension.” A “government pension” as defined under the tax treaty is a pension someone earned by working for federal, state or local government (perhaps including military service?) but our regular social security pension is not included in this exemption. I would be very happy to be proved wrong on this, though.
@@iseolake Yeah, I don't believe 401K, 403B nor IRA (Traditional or Roth) accounts are protected either. I wish that would be addressed but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm confused. if a EU-citizen purchases a property in Italy (and pays property taxes there) and lives less than 183 days a year in Italy, can he still be registered in the italian municipality and receive (free) healthcare??
I haven't started the video yet, but I'm excited! Because this is exactly the question I am weighing right now! Thanks guys!
As a Swiss I don’t need a visa to move to Italy and I just need to sign up as a resident, right?
I was hoping there might be commentary on any *taxation* advantages/disadvantages between the two choices.
More specifically, I am thinking about the 7% tax rate on outside, passive income (as in retirement income) with legal residency (southern regions & exceptions) via the Elective Residence Visa: Can the 7% tax rate apply to someone gaining Citizenship who meets the same criteria?
I bought property in Italy 6 years ago 2018 and have a 6 month resident permit that needs renewal every 6 months.
I applied for citizenship in my local comune in Italy in September 2024.
How long will it take to receive my Italian passport?
Do I need to also apply in the USA 🇺🇸 ?
Thank You
One needs to pay taxes for his/her WORLDWIDE assets as long as he/she is a resident.
I did a little research and according to what I found online, we can only qualify for Italian Citizenship if my husband's father did not renounce his Italian citizenship BEFORE he/my husband was born .... wellllll, we have a death certificate that indicates my husband's father was a U.S. citizen. I can only assume that when my husband's father immigrated here he had to renounce his citizenship in order to become a U.S. citizen. My husband is the second born son, but all children are first born here in U.S. My husband and I would love to have dual citizenship, what do we do/where do we start to find out if it is possible for us?
I wouldn't lose hope until you actually find documentation that shows the date he renounced. Typicially, a geneology records request to the USCIS will find this kind of stuff. For my great grandfather, they found an Affidavit of Support, Certificate of Examination, Petition for Naturalization, and his actual Citizenship Certificate which all confirmed that he renounced his citizenship to join the military when my grandmother was 13yo. So, not a bad idea to start looking into that and see what they can dig up. www.uscis.gov/records/genealogy
keep in mind what counts here is italian law, not american law. getting citizenship might be a form of renouncing for american purposes, but the italians are murkier on this subject and usually he'd have to formally renounce (which is rare, esp back then, because ... why?). Instead, though , it was very very common for the wife never to bother getting american citizenship, since the primary purposes was to be able to work outside the home, and if she never became an american then your husband's mother may be the italian ancestor that it's much easier to trace through. definitely talk to an italian immigration specialist lawyer like Marco, or others , because the rules evolve over time. What was true 10-20 years ago (that it was a bit harder to trace thru maternal lines) is now easier thanks to the EU forcing member states to lighten up on gender-specific interpretation of rules like this
My recommendation would be to file a genealogy records request with the USCIS. They should be able to provide you with any documentation related to his renouncing (if he did at all) and becoming a U.S. citizen. I wouldn't give up until you have actually seen documentation with dates that give you the exact timeline of what happened. For my great grandfather the USCIS was able to provide the Affidavit of Support, Certificate of Examination, Petition for Naturalization and the Citizenship Certificate showing that he renounced to join the military, well after my grandmother was born. Since you are only going back one generation, there is a good chance that the USCIS has complete records.
@@pumuckl0 Thank you so very much!! Great information.
If your husband's father was born in the US and his father was still an Italian cit (not US naturalized yet), then his father was automatically both. Not sure where he was born. In my case, my mother was born in the US (1934) before my GF was naturalized as a US citizen (1945), so again she was an Italian and US cit automatically. GF born in Italy.
I have a question, I lived in Italy for 15 years with Italian Citizenship (which i recieved with residency and im registered with A.I.R.E.) before moving to England with my family in 2015, if i were to get a uk nationality despite having a Italian one, would that terminate my italian one or would it stay. also im a dual national, Italy and my home country. Thank you for your content I appriciate it
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I know for non citizens there are agreements to prevent double taxation; what about dual citizens that are from countries that tax based on citizenship rather than residency (specifically people from the U.S.)? Are they protected from double taxation if they live in Italy?
@@LeftToWrite006 VERY good question!
I believe if they are retired the tax will be only additional 3%. You can write to Italian counsel in the USA and get sure answer
The tax treaty between US and Italy covers dual citizens as well.