Elizabeth of York: daughter of a King. Sister of a King. Niece of a King. Wife of a King. Mother of two Kings. A pawn to be moved around the chess board at will.
When Teddy ran and hugged Lizzy & when he signed it without realising it was his death warrant, I COULDN'T STOP CRYING and when he was holding Richard's hand while he was being executed 😭😭
NJ Yeah, I get why Richard/Perkin had to die, but I wish they'd tried to fake Teddy's death and let him live out his days somewhere quiet. It's not like he would have come back seeking vengeance.
I love how Lady Margaret remarks at the end how she and Lizzie are very much alike and how low key pissed off she was. I was thinking to myself "truth hurts, doesn't it?".
Elizabeth of York: daughter of a king, sister of a king, niece of a king, wife of a king, mother of a king and two queens, she herself a Queen, and the rightful Queen Regnant of England as well.
Juna Antenor his brother was a good man, he would have protected them all, and as long as they dont conspire to take the throne back nothing wrong would have happened. At the end this was really about to be queen and her children kings, no matter the cost. She just became her mother in law.
BoxyTheSpaceDog why are you saying catholics? The protestants didnt even exist yet. And they wouldnt need protection from anybody if Henry would have give up the crown and stay there as family of the king. Richard didnt want revenge.
I was so disappointed with what this show did to Elizabeth's character by the last few episodes. They took a fascinating historical queen beloved for her graciousness, intelligence, piety, and kindness and twisted her into a cold and unfeeling person to make her more "powerful". A true disservice to the real Elizabeth of York.
Game of Throne is popular, so of course they're going to copy their character into a Cersei clone by the end. But, they were all probably terrible people. Butchering each other on the way to the throne. France, or the newly united Spain, or perhaps the HRE should have invaded after England sapped itself in civil war. At this point in history, England was a joke.
gwirith14 historical sources... she just loved the guy who said from the begining that he would kill every York heir he could find ( the real Henry). Its a strange thing support the man who left your mother living almost in misery and murder your relatives, including Teddy who was just an innocent child
Alex Zaragoza everyone is looking at this one sidedly. First off Lizzy wasn't heartless in her decision to kill her SUPPOSED brother and cousin, the series showed it weighed heavily on her and it was a hard choice for her to make. However the brother was a pawn for the Duchess of Burgundy and very ignorant. He flat out said to Lizzy once he won the crown he would keep her and her children safe when by all means he could NEVER do that. Just as there were so many Yorkists, there were just as many Lancastrian and Tudors supporters as well and they would never rest and use Henry and Lizzy's children as pawns as well to overthrow him. That is the unfortunate reason why Teddy couldn't be released. All the Yorkist supporters looked to him and this SUPPOSED Richard as a way to overthrow their enemy. So when Lizzy realized how ignorant this boy was he pretty much sealed the deal for himself. Because then she had to choose between her children or her cousin and someone who could be her brother. That says it all and she HAD to choose her children to be sure she protected them as best as she could bc there would always be some threats against them but with a York on the throne, their lives were in 1000x more danger. Furthermore the SUPPOSED brother caused all this bc he was very ignorant. He could have lived out the rest of his life in peace, however he decided to try to go for the throne not realizing or caring that there was a very good chance that it could cost his sister and her children her lives. Why does no one think about that. He chose not to care or realize the severity of his actions, so he made his bed and he had to lie in it. Lastly Lizzy's mother in the series. Yes she was a strong women and was locked up in an Abbey, however it was for good reason. She never stopped plotting to overthrow Henry. That's the whole reason she ended up there, does everyone forget that she did in fact order someone to try to assassinate him and that she was in contact with The Duchess of Burgundy to try to overthrow him? Yes maybe Henry's mother was a little extreme but she was always protective of Henry and she blocked Elizabeth Woodville wherever she could. That is why they were at War with each other bc Elizabeth Woodville had difficulty getting her way with Margaret Beaufort bc they were equals in intelligence and Margaret rightfully wouldn't let her successfully plot against her son, so again Elizabeth made her bed and had to lay in it as well. However everyone please remember this was just a series facts were skewed and altered in many ways. No one really knows the whole truth of everything that really happened. All that we do know for sure is that Henry and Lizzy grew to love each other and through there marriage and partnership they brought about the END of the WAR OF ROSES and made England strong again. Because of their strength every monarch who has sat on the throne after them is a direct descendant of theirs. It stinks that this was only ever made to be a miniseries but all in all it was very well done bc in 8 short episodes it showed the many layers that each of them had, and through the series we saw, on some level, what probably happened in real life, they chose to ignore their mothers and chose each other and created a powerful dynasty with love and respect for each other.
Powerful moment between Elizabeth and Lady Stark ! Don’t care what anyone says she’ll always be lady stark to me ... Jodie should have been on thrones but she got to showcase her great potential of talent as a good queen , a noble queen a LEGEND !!!
Margaret's argument or justification is flawed. In the White Queen we see her making ambitious decisions, based on her want of him to be on the throne not to protect him as he would have been relatively safe considering his that he was not close to the throne. It was her ambitions that but him in danger. She was fighting for a crown, not his life.
Ugitzu. She was brutal and borderline insane....no she was insane. There was a scene were her husband asked her what the outcome of busting the princes from the tower were to be. She answered "whatever gods will was" he snickers at that knowing she was dancing around the question as he knew she wanted them dead, just not on her given command. She has the audacity to spit back "You would have me order the deaths of two children only nine and twelve? "Then after her husband trolls her she proceeds to say the" men must kill them." How in the world was she a godly woman? This daughter of god practically cheated on her husband in front of his face and taunt him with her closeness to Jasper. Lastly, she talked with poorly hidden glee at the prospect of Richard doing them the favor of killing two princes.
I don’t think they go into it in the series but Edward iv actually considered marrying Elizabeth to Henry before his death to allow him to come back to England
Not to mention the casting is bad Michelle’s an amazing actress it’s just ages 1. To pretty to play Margret 2. She probably would have done better playing Elisabeth Woodville
Pretty ironic of Margaret Beaufort to say Elizabeth caught Henry by ‘sour whore’s tricks’ when she herself is descended from an illegitimate line that was never supposed to exist .....
Also ironic that she kept using God's name for what she wanted,power. If not for her twisted brain which produced evil plans,manslaughter her boy wouldn't have been a King. Half of England had more claims to the English throne than Henry Tudor!
Elisabeth Woodville never went so far as to kill her enemies even course them unless they threatened her family (at least not in the series) so what Lady Margaret says is unfair...
Actually Elizabeth Woodville do the same to the George Duke of Clarence and Isabel Neville firstborn, she and her mother cursed the child so the child is stilbirth. What she did is the same as what lizzie did and lady margaret did; to save her son
@@sabilapusmeong no.t exactly. She wanted the storm to prevent them from going to Calais. They did not want the death of Isabel's death. This was something they did not plan and Elizabeth felt horrible after that. Both in the book and series it is clear they did not wished for it. Margaret lied to her half=brother and had him killed (in the series, in reality he never was killed by the Yorks) sacrificed her kinsman the Duke of Buckingham since she knew that either Richard III or her son would soon kill him after doing her dirty work and of course ordered the death of the two princes. That is why I find Margaret's line about Elizabeth so unfair and Izzie should have denied her mother of these wrong-doings.
@@tr40 but if it means to come to an end, they mean that there are no descendants named Tudor. The reign of the Tudors came to an end with Elizabeth I.
You should read "The Red Queen". His birth is described there, but even the nonfiction history books say it was awful. She was only 12 or 13 at the time, and very slimly-built. The labor was progressing too long, so the midwives had to toss her in a blanket. Afterwards, she was so physical messed up, that it was determined she'd never be able to have another child.
I think she wasn't just talking about her so-called infant nephew, but also her brothers in the tower. Elizabeth didn't have time to grieve or make a ceremonial funeral for her brothers the princes of the tower because she was a pawn by her own mother Elizabeth Woodville and Margaret Beaufort became the future queen of England. Elizabeth had little choice and she questioned her mother and mother-in-law, "how could you insist on fighting and not think of her own children who would be the source of joy in hating and fearing any Yorkist claims." Elizabeth just couldn't understand how can these women who were mothers themselves would kill innocent children. But she realized that she must think like a mother now and protect her children at any cost now.
The one thing i hate about the turn from Plantagenets to The Tudors is the fact that Elizabeth of York was the answer to everyone's problems yet England (and Wales) ended up being ruled by an inferior branch of the royal line descended through an illegitimate (later legitimised) child. Henry VII only claim to the throne was a tenuous connection via his mothers legitimised line - considered weak because it came via his mother. His marriage to Elizabeth of York (the true monarch in the eyes of many now and at the time) and his Right of Conquest are truly what gave him the ability to hold the throne. If Henry had married anyone else his line would likely have ended with him.
How do you sleep ? How are you not bowed down in shame ? How do you not howl in the grief that you have done ? I couldn't but think of my daughter's mother on hearing these words.
This is absolute travesty how Margaret Beaufort was portrayed. Such a cruel way to show the true founder of the Tudor dynasty and she did nothing like these awful plot points.
Yeah, one problem, Margaret... you weren't actually doing any of that for Henry, just for you. So you could be the king's mother to get back at your own.
can someone that had read the books please tell me why in the white queen all the yorks hate elizabeth woodville and her family and then in the white princess they all love each other? the series are diferent than the books? sorry for my english i am learning by myself
Barbara O when Elizabeth Woodville and Edward first met she was a pennyless single mother of 2 whos husband had died fighting on the side of the lancastrians the yorks were wary of her and the claims of witchcraft etc but I think as time went on they began to trust her but also Edwards brothers didnt really like her as the legitimate children she had with Edward would move them further down the pecking order of them one day becoming king of england themselves (it is said that Richard of York actually locked and murdered the York Princes in the tower but disputed that it could just be Tudor propaganda)
@@chelseaoliver5404 i believe that margaret beaufort and her husband talk in secret and killed the princes in the tower and blamed it on richard iii and make henry the vii king
@1:21 reality check, you did that for yourself because you were power-hungry, and wanted to rationalize the miserable hand you’ve been dealt. Your son was just your excuse.
This show really stepped into conspiracy central. Probably why it only had the 8 episodes. They really vilified King Henry's mother. There is no proof she had the boys in the tower killed. In fact, King Richard had the greatest motif of all; which is why I think he had them killed and why he deserved to be overthrown and killed at the battle of Botsworth. A lot of this show was completely inaccurate. They could have done much better.
@@kingwarhammer9585 After the disappearance of the princes, the Yorkist secretly declared Elizabeth of York as the rightful heir of the throne, so, Richard III's declaration didn't hold the sway we are led to believe. This is the reason that the Lancaster descendants sought the match between Henry Tudor and Princess Elizabeth as it would legitimize his rule if he were to marry the heiress to the throne. Furthermore, Elizabeth Woodville turned on Richard III after the perceived deaths of her sons and sought out Margaret Beaufort to form an alliance that would place both of their heirs on the throne of England. The Lancaster faction could not predict that killing the boys would result in such an alliance and Richard probably did not expect that people would support his niece's claim over his own once all other male heirs were deceased. I do believe Richard was loyal to his eldest brother, whose claim would always usurp his own, but I do not believe he was loyal to his brothers children and probably believed that he was doing England a service by riding them of child kings that could not fight for their right to rule.
There’s no reason for Richard to have killed those boys. He made them bastards so legally they had no way to become heirs again. The duke of Buckingham and lady Margaret had better motives
50% of people died before 20 years of age in those days. most didnt survive infancy and those who did died from plague/war/childbirth/infection. there was no medicine, no "regular checkups" and very often by the time you saw a healer of some kind you were dying.
I think it’s the fact that not only Arthur died but Henry VIII’s Edward died as well. It reverted back to the female descendant of Margaret their oldest with Scotland since Elizabeth knew her cousins by Mary were not a good option
She killed her brother because he threatened her sons' lives, since their father is Henry. Her mother wasn't that good either. She used her own daughter as a pawn to get closer to the throne, and at the first opportunity, turned her back on her and her grandsons when she chose to back her own son, considering Elizabeth was the Queen and her grandsons were princes of England. Lizzie at first wanted to spare her brother, but it was either him or her sons. A mother will always choose her child.
@@xxwhispersxx2856 In the books/show at least. Historically there's no evidence that either Margaret or Henry had anything to do with the Princes's murder.
Lisa Winter no, she wasnt. They just wanted power to their sons. Richard loved her, he was a good guy. He would have protected his family, even Henry if he didnt choose to fight.
I have always hated the Tudor family, and her books have only increased my hatred. I'd love to go back in time and show "My lady the king's mother" and her rapist fucker of a son exactly what happens to their family. From the fat ass widow maker, to the bloody Mary, to the Virgin Queen. I really wonder what would have happened if the Yorks had remained in power, I know Queen Elizabeth helped bring an age of culture, and that settlers of america left to pursue religious freedom from her family, so I really wonder how different our history would be if they hadn't taken over.
Glad I stopped watching this after the 3rd episode. How can a woman historical or otherwise fall for a man who's own mother had her family members "killed" and he himself would be willing too? This show was awful and nowhere near as good as the white queen!
This show horribly portrays Margaret Beaufort. Historically, she was nowhere near as bad as they portray her to be. Honestly, they might as well have just cast Maleficent.
Elizabeth of York: daughter of a King. Sister of a King. Niece of a King. Wife of a King. Mother of two Kings. A pawn to be moved around the chess board at will.
She was only mother of one king
Nigel Wheatley actually 2, King Arthur (died young) and King Henry the 8th (younger brother of Arthur who succeeded the throne)
Julia Cordero Arthur was never actually king, when he died his father Henry VII was still alive and Arthur was the Prince of Wales
arthur never succeded his father as king because he died while he was the prince of wales
She was also mother of a queen
When Teddy ran and hugged Lizzy & when he signed it without realising it was his death warrant, I COULDN'T STOP CRYING and when he was holding Richard's hand while he was being executed 😭😭
NJ Me too! I was just yelling. You f'ng Bitch!
NJ Yeah, I get why Richard/Perkin had to die, but I wish they'd tried to fake Teddy's death and let him live out his days somewhere quiet. It's not like he would have come back seeking vengeance.
Beth H. Neither would Richard, he wanted to be king but he didnt want to hurt any of them
I wish they continued the show long enough to show that Lizzie will eventually get her comeuppance.
Damn i'm crying
Michelle Fairley deserves more credit for this performance. She's an incredible actress.
I love how Lady Margaret remarks at the end how she and Lizzie are very much alike and how low key pissed off she was. I was thinking to myself "truth hurts, doesn't it?".
Elizabeth of York: daughter of a king, sister of a king, niece of a king, wife of a king, mother of a king and two queens, she herself a Queen, and the rightful Queen Regnant of England as well.
The look on Liz's face gave me chills. The whole episode had my jaw to the ground.
I'm going to miss this how. The ending. Liz was heartless but at the same time she had to save her sons.
Love Lizzie
BoxyTheSpaceDog who killed who? 😐
She killed Teddy and Richard.
Juna Antenor his brother was a good man, he would have protected them all, and as long as they dont conspire to take the throne back nothing wrong would have happened. At the end this was really about to be queen and her children kings, no matter the cost. She just became her mother in law.
BoxyTheSpaceDog why are you saying catholics? The protestants didnt even exist yet. And they wouldnt need protection from anybody if Henry would have give up the crown and stay there as family of the king. Richard didnt want revenge.
She is so talented! I can honestly say she’s one of the best actresses I’ve ever seen...actually she is the best actor I’ve ever seen for sure!!
Jodie Comer brought such power to her. Amazing performance
I was so disappointed with what this show did to Elizabeth's character by the last few episodes. They took a fascinating historical queen beloved for her graciousness, intelligence, piety, and kindness and twisted her into a cold and unfeeling person to make her more "powerful". A true disservice to the real Elizabeth of York.
mate how could you be sure of what the 'historical' fact said about her? were you there 🙄
Game of Throne is popular, so of course they're going to copy their character into a Cersei clone by the end. But, they were all probably terrible people. Butchering each other on the way to the throne. France, or the newly united Spain, or perhaps the HRE should have invaded after England sapped itself in civil war. At this point in history, England was a joke.
+Cuong Le Well, let's forget all the historical sources, surely they don't matter, right?
gwirith14 historical sources... she just loved the guy who said from the begining that he would kill every York heir he could find ( the real Henry). Its a strange thing support the man who left your mother living almost in misery and murder your relatives, including Teddy who was just an innocent child
Alex Zaragoza everyone is looking at this one sidedly. First off Lizzy wasn't heartless in her decision to kill her SUPPOSED brother and cousin, the series showed it weighed heavily on her and it was a hard choice for her to make. However the brother was a pawn for the Duchess of Burgundy and very ignorant. He flat out said to Lizzy once he won the crown he would keep her and her children safe when by all means he could NEVER do that. Just as there were so many Yorkists, there were just as many Lancastrian and Tudors supporters as well and they would never rest and use Henry and Lizzy's children as pawns as well to overthrow him. That is the unfortunate reason why Teddy couldn't be released. All the Yorkist supporters looked to him and this SUPPOSED Richard as a way to overthrow their enemy. So when Lizzy realized how ignorant this boy was he pretty much sealed the deal for himself. Because then she had to choose between her children or her cousin and someone who could be her brother. That says it all and she HAD to choose her children to be sure she protected them as best as she could bc there would always be some threats against them but with a York on the throne, their lives were in 1000x more danger. Furthermore the SUPPOSED brother caused all this bc he was very ignorant. He could have lived out the rest of his life in peace, however he decided to try to go for the throne not realizing or caring that there was a very good chance that it could cost his sister and her children her lives. Why does no one think about that. He chose not to care or realize the severity of his actions, so he made his bed and he had to lie in it. Lastly Lizzy's mother in the series. Yes she was a strong women and was locked up in an Abbey, however it was for good reason. She never stopped plotting to overthrow Henry. That's the whole reason she ended up there, does everyone forget that she did in fact order someone to try to assassinate him and that she was in contact with The Duchess of Burgundy to try to overthrow him? Yes maybe Henry's mother was a little extreme but she was always protective of Henry and she blocked Elizabeth Woodville wherever she could. That is why they were at War with each other bc Elizabeth Woodville had difficulty getting her way with Margaret Beaufort bc they were equals in intelligence and Margaret rightfully wouldn't let her successfully plot against her son, so again Elizabeth made her bed and had to lay in it as well. However everyone please remember this was just a series facts were skewed and altered in many ways. No one really knows the whole truth of everything that really happened. All that we do know for sure is that Henry and Lizzy grew to love each other and through there marriage and partnership they brought about the END of the WAR OF ROSES and made England strong again. Because of their strength every monarch who has sat on the throne after them is a direct descendant of theirs. It stinks that this was only ever made to be a miniseries but all in all it was very well done bc in 8 short episodes it showed the many layers that each of them had, and through the series we saw, on some level, what probably happened in real life, they chose to ignore their mothers and chose each other and created a powerful dynasty with love and respect for each other.
Jodie Comer's performance is so extraordinary
Powerful moment between Elizabeth and Lady Stark ! Don’t care what anyone says she’ll always be lady stark to me ... Jodie should have been on thrones but she got to showcase her great potential of talent as a good queen , a noble queen a LEGEND !!!
Always been fascinated by the Tudors. I know this series is heavily fictionalized, but I can not get enough of Elizabeth (Jodie Comer)!
Margaret's argument or justification is flawed. In the White Queen we see her making ambitious decisions, based on her want of him to be on the throne not to protect him as he would have been relatively safe considering his that he was not close to the throne. It was her ambitions that but him in danger. She was fighting for a crown, not his life.
Ugitzu. She was brutal and borderline insane....no she was insane. There was a scene were her husband asked her what the outcome of busting the princes from the tower were to be. She answered "whatever gods will was" he snickers at that knowing she was dancing around the question as he knew she wanted them dead, just not on her given command. She has the audacity to spit back "You would have me order the deaths of two children only nine and twelve? "Then after her husband trolls her she proceeds to say the" men must kill them." How in the world was she a godly woman? This daughter of god practically cheated on her husband in front of his face and taunt him with her closeness to Jasper. Lastly, she talked with poorly hidden glee at the prospect of Richard doing them the favor of killing two princes.
I don’t think they go into it in the series but Edward iv actually considered marrying Elizabeth to Henry before his death to allow him to come back to England
Not to mention the casting is bad Michelle’s an amazing actress it’s just ages 1. To pretty to play Margret
2. She probably would have done better playing Elisabeth Woodville
Pretty ironic of Margaret Beaufort to say Elizabeth caught Henry by ‘sour whore’s tricks’ when she herself is descended from an illegitimate line that was never supposed to exist .....
Also ironic that she kept using God's name for what she wanted,power. If not for her twisted brain which produced evil plans,manslaughter her boy wouldn't have been a King. Half of England had more claims to the English throne than Henry Tudor!
I really liked this show. I hoped it was either longer or had a second season.
it continued to the spanish princess
Great acting here. One of the two most outstanding actresses I know of .
Elisabeth Woodville never went so far as to kill her enemies even course them unless they threatened her family (at least not in the series) so what Lady Margaret says is unfair...
True that
Actually Elizabeth Woodville do the same to the George Duke of Clarence and Isabel Neville firstborn, she and her mother cursed the child so the child is stilbirth. What she did is the same as what lizzie did and lady margaret did; to save her son
@@sabilapusmeong no.t exactly. She wanted the storm to prevent them from going to Calais. They did not want the death of Isabel's death. This was something they did not plan and Elizabeth felt horrible after that. Both in the book and series it is clear they did not wished for it. Margaret lied to her half=brother and had him killed (in the series, in reality he never was killed by the Yorks) sacrificed her kinsman the Duke of Buckingham since she knew that either Richard III or her son would soon kill him after doing her dirty work and of course ordered the death of the two princes. That is why I find Margaret's line about Elizabeth so unfair and Izzie should have denied her mother of these wrong-doings.
The curse came true. Arthur died at 15 and when Elizabeth I died the Tudor line came to an end.
No it didn't. King James of Scotland's grandmother is Margret Tudor.
@@tr40 but if it means to come to an end, they mean that there are no descendants named Tudor. The reign of the Tudors came to an end with Elizabeth I.
All in all this royals around the world (aside Arab) are same blood same roots fighting for the thrones
@Theresa Nardino I know that. It's just that Philippa Gregory's ability to incorporate fantasy elements in historical events is flawless.
Very true
I love how the series breaks the stereotypes of the era and presents a more global perspective.
I get the feeling that Margaret was psychologically scarred by Henry's traumatic birth.
You should read "The Red Queen". His birth is described there, but even the nonfiction history books say it was awful. She was only 12 or 13 at the time, and very slimly-built. The labor was progressing too long, so the midwives had to toss her in a blanket. Afterwards, she was so physical messed up, that it was determined she'd never be able to have another child.
She also was a great politician for her time especially using marriages to safe guard her lands she should have had from her father.
Actually she was not.Try to watch Mothers Love a doc from historian Dan Jones.There lies the real margaret.This is just fiction💝
Elizabethan Lady yes because a 12 year old giving birth can't possibly be a physically and mentally scarring event
PickUpTheDarnBook Yes I believe it Can be very wcarubof course but I dont believe this made her a psycho
Is that caitlin from game of thrones?
Tandy Bennett yes
I think she wasn't just talking about her so-called infant nephew, but also her brothers in the tower. Elizabeth didn't have time to grieve or make a ceremonial funeral for her brothers the princes of the tower because she was a pawn by her own mother Elizabeth Woodville and Margaret Beaufort became the future queen of England. Elizabeth had little choice and she questioned her mother and mother-in-law, "how could you insist on fighting and not think of her own children who would be the source of joy in hating and fearing any Yorkist claims." Elizabeth just couldn't understand how can these women who were mothers themselves would kill innocent children. But she realized that she must think like a mother now and protect her children at any cost now.
The one thing i hate about the turn from Plantagenets to The Tudors is the fact that Elizabeth of York was the answer to everyone's problems yet England (and Wales) ended up being ruled by an inferior branch of the royal line descended through an illegitimate (later legitimised) child. Henry VII only claim to the throne was a tenuous connection via his mothers legitimised line - considered weak because it came via his mother. His marriage to Elizabeth of York (the true monarch in the eyes of many now and at the time) and his Right of Conquest are truly what gave him the ability to hold the throne. If Henry had married anyone else his line would likely have ended with him.
I know the costumes are not accurate but Jodie looked so beautiful.
Margret meant “Elizabeth “ was her mother because she did everything to her children and tried to that’s what she gave her daughter in law as advice
How do you sleep ? How are you not bowed down in shame ? How do you not howl in the grief that you have done ?
I couldn't but think of my daughter's mother on hearing these words.
Best actresses.
is HBO going to do bloody mary?...
Could very well do they've just done her mum lol maybe next
charlene adams u mean starz.
This is absolute travesty how Margaret Beaufort was portrayed. Such a cruel way to show the true founder of the Tudor dynasty and she did nothing like these awful plot points.
The power of simple truths.
Outsanding ladys 👑👑
Lady Mother, you're getting too close!
i need moreeee!
Yeah, one problem, Margaret... you weren't actually doing any of that for Henry, just for you. So you could be the king's mother to get back at your own.
can someone that had read the books please tell me why in the white queen all the yorks hate elizabeth woodville and her family and then in the white princess they all love each other? the series are diferent than the books? sorry for my english i am learning by myself
Barbara O when Elizabeth Woodville and Edward first met she was a pennyless single mother of 2 whos husband had died fighting on the side of the lancastrians the yorks were wary of her and the claims of witchcraft etc but I think as time went on they began to trust her but also Edwards brothers didnt really like her as the legitimate children she had with Edward would move them further down the pecking order of them one day becoming king of england themselves (it is said that Richard of York actually locked and murdered the York Princes in the tower but disputed that it could just be Tudor propaganda)
@@chelseaoliver5404 i believe that margaret beaufort and her husband talk in secret and killed the princes in the tower and blamed it on richard iii and make henry the vii king
A true queen
Say what you want Elizabeth your son changes you faith so he can marry another women for a son
Margaret is the true villain of the whole series
@Theresa Nardino But we do not know that for sure.
@Theresa Nardino And I did say the series and not IRL
I hate that you have canceled this show!!!
Was never canceled, it was a mini series
it continued to spanish princess
This is the worst relationship of mother-daughter in law
Historically, Elizabeth and Margaret actually got along quite well.
@1:21 reality check, you did that for yourself because you were power-hungry, and wanted to rationalize the miserable hand you’ve been dealt. Your son was just your excuse.
I hated how elizabeth becam a copy of margaret by the end
Lizzie is so regal
If she lived longer, she could see what her son Henry did too lol
I wish to watch this, I didn’t finish it, but there’s only 1 episode and I’m not buying every episode, it sucks 😕
Will there be a season 2?
no,prob new series since there's book after White Princess but it'll have to prob wait 2 years until release
BoxyTheSpaceDog that's a yes then.
There is a sequel called The Spanish Princess which is about Catherine of Aragon.
it continue to spanish princess
This show really stepped into conspiracy central. Probably why it only had the 8 episodes. They really vilified King Henry's mother. There is no proof she had the boys in the tower killed. In fact, King Richard had the greatest motif of all; which is why I think he had them killed and why he deserved to be overthrown and killed at the battle of Botsworth. A lot of this show was completely inaccurate. They could have done much better.
You do know this show is based off a historical fiction novel right?
@@kingwarhammer9585 After the disappearance of the princes, the Yorkist secretly declared Elizabeth of York as the rightful heir of the throne, so, Richard III's declaration didn't hold the sway we are led to believe. This is the reason that the Lancaster descendants sought the match between Henry Tudor and Princess Elizabeth as it would legitimize his rule if he were to marry the heiress to the throne. Furthermore, Elizabeth Woodville turned on Richard III after the perceived deaths of her sons and sought out Margaret Beaufort to form an alliance that would place both of their heirs on the throne of England. The Lancaster faction could not predict that killing the boys would result in such an alliance and Richard probably did not expect that people would support his niece's claim over his own once all other male heirs were deceased. I do believe Richard was loyal to his eldest brother, whose claim would always usurp his own, but I do not believe he was loyal to his brothers children and probably believed that he was doing England a service by riding them of child kings that could not fight for their right to rule.
There’s no reason for Richard to have killed those boys. He made them bastards so legally they had no way to become heirs again. The duke of Buckingham and lady Margaret had better motives
Actually he had the least motive because he already had then declared bastard so they couldn't claim the throne so there was no point in killing them.
@@Saoirse1382 Actually Henry V11 reversed that law so he could marry her and cement his claim.
I hate the way they potray Lady Magaret Beaufort in the show :(
Henry trusts Elizabeth more then you Margaret deal with it.
someone tell me who is teddy who was executed
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I preferred the true story of Monarchy than a fictional one. Sadly, film maker now twisted the history for the sake of entertainment.
She is not the White princess she is the red queen
Elizabeth is the White Princess, as a reference to the white rose of house York.
She looks a bit like cersei here
ain zulikha thats because cersei is based in the yorks
RunDevil Run i tot the lannisters are based on the lancasters no?
ain zulikha yeah, sorry
The curse was real. Prince Arthur dies at the age of 15. Henry and Lizzie deserves the loss of their first born son.
Ray Ven yeah... At the end of every episode it says: some historical events were changed to drama purposes...
You're right. They're all disgusting human beings. How a Brit can feel positive about still having monarchs is beyond me.
There is no curse, or at least from the present historical sources
50% of people died before 20 years of age in those days. most didnt survive infancy and those who did died from plague/war/childbirth/infection. there was no medicine, no "regular checkups" and very often by the time you saw a healer of some kind you were dying.
I think it’s the fact that not only Arthur died but Henry VIII’s Edward died as well. It reverted back to the female descendant of Margaret their oldest with Scotland since Elizabeth knew her cousins by Mary were not a good option
Can someone upload the queen rallying the troops speach Episode 7
Am I only waiting Ned Stark 😄 to see.
acting good.
history true.
What? There is so little truth in these series that it is laughable.
Who was Cathy Gordon
cathrine gordon was a scottish noblewoman the wife of perkin warbeck who pretend to be prince richard one of princes in tower
The truth is he literally wants to save his genes... guess it’s time to face the truth 🤦♀️
heartless queen...she kill her own brother and let her mom abandon for years....while she living glamor at palace..
She killed her brother because he threatened her sons' lives, since their father is Henry. Her mother wasn't that good either. She used her own daughter as a pawn to get closer to the throne, and at the first opportunity, turned her back on her and her grandsons when she chose to back her own son, considering Elizabeth was the Queen and her grandsons were princes of England. Lizzie at first wanted to spare her brother, but it was either him or her sons. A mother will always choose her child.
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What sin are they talking about? What did Lady Margaret do?
She killed Lizzie's younger brothers so she could help put her own son on the throne.
@@xxwhispersxx2856 In the books/show at least. Historically there's no evidence that either Margaret or Henry had anything to do with the Princes's murder.
York’s are still the royal family through our current queen
Elizabeth of York has become the worst character of the show ;/
I hate to say it but Lady Margaret is right.
Lisa Winter no, she wasnt. They just wanted power to their sons. Richard loved her, he was a good guy. He would have protected his family, even Henry if he didnt choose to fight.
Lady margaret was power hungry, what she did put her son in danger for most of his life.
I have always hated the Tudor family, and her books have only increased my hatred. I'd love to go back in time and show "My lady the king's mother" and her rapist fucker of a son exactly what happens to their family. From the fat ass widow maker, to the bloody Mary, to the Virgin Queen. I really wonder what would have happened if the Yorks had remained in power, I know Queen Elizabeth helped bring an age of culture, and that settlers of america left to pursue religious freedom from her family, so I really wonder how different our history would be if they hadn't taken over.
Glad I stopped watching this after the 3rd episode. How can a woman historical or otherwise fall for a man who's own mother had her family members "killed" and he himself would be willing too? This show was awful and nowhere near as good as the white queen!
This show horribly portrays Margaret Beaufort. Historically, she was nowhere near as bad as they portray her to be. Honestly, they might as well have just cast Maleficent.