10:00 while you'd normally be correct Dylan, it wouldn't have been in this case because Cam was using Final Fortune, if he Milled out everyone and passed turn, then he, Nate, and Tyler would've all lost (to Final Fortune, Deckout, and Deckout repsectively) making you the winner.
@@kenchee2010 Yes, but that ignores the point I was making entirely, which is that Cam could not take *the line explictly mentioned by Dylan* without losing.
People usually miss this actually because the deck does have an answer either way, but yeah. The Spellseeker chain to Brainfreeze mill is not a "win" because it is usually coupled with Final Fortune. You do need to leave like 7 > cards in your deck and also cast a Wheel of Fortune at the end of it as well. But...the answer is there, but often never executed or mentioned prior to people scooping lol
I mean, semantically, yeah Dylan isn't 100% correct with what he said, but it's a nonissue. Any wheel effect closes the game there, if he has Angel's Grace, he can just say no to the Final Fortune trigger, and if he's got targeted card draw, he could do that. Frankly, it doesn't matter. Underworld Breach basically just let's you do whatever win you want.
Small, but at 8:40 the ephemerate does not get exiled because rebound only happens when cast from hand. Might come into play with number of cards in the graveyard.
Love seeing Sisay, she can do some real crazy things : ) Stuff like fetching Teferi end of the turn before you and they can't react to it coming out is just so good and you can do so much with it
I would love to see a video where you break down the key moments in the top decks/combos, where interaction stops a player from going off. Like, which spells must be countered, or when it’s essential to remove a creature.
Mine is nowhere near anything like Cam's, but watching him play his Jeska / Ishai deck inspired me to make one, and it is not only my strongest current deck, but by far my favorite to pilot. Thanks so much for the content, guys!
Great Game! I do want to add, if you went the brain freeze route the Grolnok player could have don’t some shenanigans to stop Cameron from winning. I play against a Grolnok deck a lot and have made the same mistake.
Love the show guys. As usual the games are fun (and funny). You guys look like you're having a genuinely good time and it's fun to watch. Random question but have you thought of doing videos on tier 1.5 and tier 2 commanders? I've always wondered how Alibou or Alela would fair. Alela being in powerful colors and capable of winning without the commander in play
You guys should sprinkle in some Marvel-esqe bloopers, extras, and hint upcoming games during the outro/credits or at the end. Less wasted footage, increased video length and watcher retention (for the algorithm?!). AND more personality per video, y'know, the best part
Phew! My Sunday was almost incomplete and then in comes Play to Win to save the day. Oh! I can I introduce you to an idea I've been pushing? How about, and just hear me out, you try a best enchantress in cEDH video? Just a crazy idea I had.
Dont the cards binned with Tyler's DRC go to exile with a croak counter? That would mean that pact of negation is in exile with a croak counter and Tyler could pact of negation the ephemerate right?
Yes, the Brain Freeze everyone and pass USUALLY works, but if Cam did that he would have lost to Final Fortune right there so the Dualcaster play was correct.
At 7:29, after Spellseeker resolves why did you have priority to make the enlightened tutor play? If the last thing on the stack resolves after all players have passed priority then per rule 117.4 wouldn't the (upkeep or any) phase you're in end?
Everyone had quite a slow start, but it was a good game to watch. I am not sure about the spellseeker line, since intuition can basically do the same without having potentially dead cards. And instant speed...
The copy of Badlands Dylan fetched into play turn 1.... where does one aquire that printing? Cannot find it anywhere so I always assumed its a proxy but Im not sure
Only if cast from the hand. When they get cast for the rebound they go to grave. They did technically mess up when they exile the ephemerate from that cast since it was cast in grave there is no rebound
Cam couldn't have draw a card off Esper sentinel at 4:38 since he already did to Winds of Rebuke or am I not seeing something? I know it can be confusing at times but just wanted to be sure.
Hey Dylan I’m a bit confused. What does “jeskai inala” mean? I looked at the deck list and didn’t see an inala, which I think is a grixis card lol. Where does that name for the deck come from?
He was comparing Jeska Ishais (Jeskai) use of Spellseeker to have effectively the same use for Spellseeker in Inalla (Grixis). Spellseeker is a 1 card win in Inalla and in the Jeskai Color combination. Quite the powerful card.
Great game, happy to see Cam get a win I feel like he doesn't get a win often, and gets beat to shit a lot by everyone lol. GGs! I'd love to play a game with you guys one day... maybe not in cEDH but optimized?
I feel like, Tyler shouldn't have played Amber, and Opal until he needed them... like what happens if like Nate (the last player in turn order) then plays Dockside? I know it had no consequences but... just seems like a bad choice and fostering a bad habit but maybe I'm just ignorant to something in cEDH?
You have to weigh dockside against Wheel of Fortune effects discarding them, rhystic study making them draw your opponents cards, this Sisay list running Lavinia and Archon of Emeria, if there was a stax deck at the table then Trinisphere/Thalia/etc making them no longer mana positive, other rule of law effects...
I love that we can see Cam slapping his forehead in the reflections of his cards when Dylan reminds him that Brain Freeze exists. Great game guys!
Great catch...hilarious!
10:00 while you'd normally be correct Dylan, it wouldn't have been in this case because Cam was using Final Fortune, if he Milled out everyone and passed turn, then he, Nate, and Tyler would've all lost (to Final Fortune, Deckout, and Deckout repsectively) making you the winner.
He can still mill everyone out and cast a wheel of fortune
@@kenchee2010 Yes, but that ignores the point I was making entirely, which is that Cam could not take *the line explictly mentioned by Dylan* without losing.
@@kenchee2010 the final fortune makes cam lose ghe game at end of that extra turn
People usually miss this actually because the deck does have an answer either way, but yeah. The Spellseeker chain to Brainfreeze mill is not a "win" because it is usually coupled with Final Fortune. You do need to leave like 7 > cards in your deck and also cast a Wheel of Fortune at the end of it as well. But...the answer is there, but often never executed or mentioned prior to people scooping lol
I mean, semantically, yeah Dylan isn't 100% correct with what he said, but it's a nonissue. Any wheel effect closes the game there, if he has Angel's Grace, he can just say no to the Final Fortune trigger, and if he's got targeted card draw, he could do that. Frankly, it doesn't matter. Underworld Breach basically just let's you do whatever win you want.
Small, but at 8:40 the ephemerate does not get exiled because rebound only happens when cast from hand. Might come into play with number of cards in the graveyard.
I also caught this and am glad someone else did too
Thanks for showing up to watch everyone else play magic Nate!
Good shit Cam! You guys have really been the only mtg content I regularly watch these days, absolutely love your group open discussion play style.
Nate always feels like an innocent bystander.
Love the change up in "begins", where it was escalating into the demonic, only to totally flip the last 2 weeks.
Cam listening to other people’s advice during table politics is classic PlayToWin.
Glad you were able to eek out a win, congrats!
The music intensifying as Cam figured out the line was magnificent 😁
I don't think that word means what you think it means
@@invaderatlai3433 🤣 indeed it does not. Thanks for the correction 😊
I loved the realization of the meta shift when everyone was played the same cards in four separate decks
Amazing video as always, thank you so much!
Love seeing Sisay, she can do some real crazy things : )
Stuff like fetching Teferi end of the turn before you and they can't react to it coming out is just so good and you can do so much with it
Just into the game, but I feel like Nate kept a rough hand with no mana dorks. Sisay runs so much mana and his first play was turn 3
this has to be some of the best opening turns i've ever seen in a cEDH game
Best part of every Sunday!
I would love to see a video where you break down the key moments in the top decks/combos, where interaction stops a player from going off. Like, which spells must be countered, or when it’s essential to remove a creature.
I love Jeska/Ishai such a fun deck. Really enjoy always us having a giant murder bird to fall back on
Jeska/Ishai is my only cedh deck and I love it. I feel is so versatile
Congrats on hitting 100k views on an older vid . Idk how you guys aren’t in the 100ks per video yet. Your channel slaps.
I was absolutely giddy to see that spellseeker package go off. I didn't even think about Jeska in the command zone, what a great mana sink.
Great win, and good sportsmanship helping each other out finding lines in their decks :)
There's multiple blue Tymnas, they just cost 4: Coastal Piracy and Bident of Thassa
I really like your current life totals, names, commanders etc setup on the screen!
Mine is nowhere near anything like Cam's, but watching him play his Jeska / Ishai deck inspired me to make one, and it is not only my strongest current deck, but by far my favorite to pilot. Thanks so much for the content, guys!
I’ve never played CEDH, only casual. I’ve been watching you guys for about 6 months though and now really want to play!
I love your eps.
I will say. This channel showed me jeskai/isa and I love the deck. Thank you guys for finding me my pet deck! Keep up the content!
Back at it with the "BEGIN!" love the content Gentlemen
Nate really needs to mulligan more 😂
Great video! Always happy to see the superior frog! 🐸
thyx really enjoy the in person episode wana to see more games with these decks of yours guys
Great Game! I do want to add, if you went the brain freeze route the Grolnok player could have don’t some shenanigans to stop Cameron from winning. I play against a Grolnok deck a lot and have made the same mistake.
Super stoked to see “Which deck is the best DRC deck….” ….. Oh wait.
I feel like brain freeze is the bane of Cam’s game haha
Great episode!
Another great Sunday to wake up to with a new video from you guys :)
Nice to see you ❤ all the reactions. Shows you really care. Fun game as always ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
This is the best content on TH-cam
Go Jeska/Ishai!! One of my favorite decks!
Love the show guys. As usual the games are fun (and funny). You guys look like you're having a genuinely good time and it's fun to watch. Random question but have you thought of doing videos on tier 1.5 and tier 2 commanders? I've always wondered how Alibou or Alela would fair. Alela being in powerful colors and capable of winning without the commander in play
The “begin” really got me
loooove the content, I can see you guys will go far
They have started to go backwards... I love the intro redemption arc.
You guys should sprinkle in some Marvel-esqe bloopers, extras, and hint upcoming games during the outro/credits or at the end. Less wasted footage, increased video length and watcher retention (for the algorithm?!). AND more personality per video, y'know, the best part
Great win cam,u went so many ways to get here lol..its all good bro u got there
Cam: "Jishai could really use Tymna"
Grazilaxx: *am I a joke to you?*
Phew! My Sunday was almost incomplete and then in comes Play to Win to save the day. Oh! I can I introduce you to an idea I've been pushing? How about, and just hear me out, you try a best enchantress in cEDH video? Just a crazy idea I had.
I was so excited to see Grolnok 😞
I'm juat hope for grolnok to be a stompy frog list with no combos because frogs are an awesome tribe to build around.
That was a nice quick one! I gotta get me a marsh flat ;)
love you guys, keep the games coming
Dont the cards binned with Tyler's DRC go to exile with a croak counter? That would mean that pact of negation is in exile with a croak counter and Tyler could pact of negation the ephemerate right?
Grolnok only exiles and puts croak counters on permanents.
@@Dylan-vs6sf aw damn, didnt know that
Grazilax is a 3 mana blue Tymna that you could play in J/I
Is always good to see Jeska/Ishai in action and What you recommend to fill out the Dualcaster and Twinflame places?
Cam being a complete ham lol..Dylan had to help his son with the line lol..cam of yeah brain freeze!!
Give Grolnok another episode!
I love seeing jeska ishai jeskai...ishka jeshai jsheakia
Sad I missed that skull playmat because it is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes, the Brain Freeze everyone and pass USUALLY works, but if Cam did that he would have lost to Final Fortune right there so the Dualcaster play was correct.
At 7:29, after Spellseeker resolves why did you have priority to make the enlightened tutor play? If the last thing on the stack resolves after all players have passed priority then per rule 117.4 wouldn't the (upkeep or any) phase you're in end?
Everyone had quite a slow start, but it was a good game to watch. I am not sure about the spellseeker line, since intuition can basically do the same without having potentially dead cards. And instant speed...
Where do you get your proxy dual lands? Those are really cool arts on them.
I LOVE Cam's HAT!!! Where can I BUY ONE?
I LOVE the Green with the Black "Awesome" color Match!!! 👍 💝
You can find the hat at the Play to Win Bonfire link
Nice match, even though I was hoping to see more of Sisay haha :D
How do you record the games? It would be cool if you guys ever do a tutorial on how to record Commander in person games.
What would be the combo line with spellseeker in jeska/ishai?
So.. this may just be a reflection f my pod, bit am I the only one thinking that breach strategies are recently the most consistent lines?
What music do you use in the background of your gameplay? I would love to use it for my DnD campaign!
Speaking of frog, Havent seen a Holy Gitrog on the channel in ages :,(
FF is one of the best cards in cEDH.
is there a reason why tyler would play mox amber? unless u have rograk as a cmdr u cant realiabley get mana out of it right?
The copy of Badlands Dylan fetched into play turn 1.... where does one aquire that printing? Cannot find it anywhere so I always assumed its a proxy but Im not sure
i don't think it's a proxy they i will look around to see what print it is for you
ok so i found it look for 2016 legacy champion badlands its the same printing as Dylan's
That’s Dr. C to you mister
8:35 Ephemerate should be in exile here, since rebound cards exile themsevles as they resolve
Only if cast from the hand. When they get cast for the rebound they go to grave. They did technically mess up when they exile the ephemerate from that cast since it was cast in grave there is no rebound
@@Dylan-vs6sf Weird! I had no idea that that was how that worked; thank you
Gj cam on that win!
Cam couldn't have draw a card off Esper sentinel at 4:38 since he already did to Winds of Rebuke or am I not seeing something? I know it can be confusing at times but just wanted to be sure.
Winds of Rebuke was in Nate's end step
@@Dylan-vs6sf you're right! I was sure I was missing something.
Hey Dylan I’m a bit confused. What does “jeskai inala” mean? I looked at the deck list and didn’t see an inala, which I think is a grixis card lol. Where does that name for the deck come from?
He was comparing Jeska Ishais (Jeskai) use of Spellseeker to have effectively the same use for Spellseeker in Inalla (Grixis). Spellseeker is a 1 card win in Inalla and in the Jeskai Color combination. Quite the powerful card.
One day I’ll learn how to pilot Jeska/Ishai properly
What are the dual lands Cam and Nate are running?
not sure if i would take out twinflame in a spellseeker deck tbh, and then dualcaster is just one slot
i have to say i fna reached the point where i got sick of breach. it's just simply too good
Great game, happy to see Cam get a win I feel like he doesn't get a win often, and gets beat to shit a lot by everyone lol. GGs! I'd love to play a game with you guys one day... maybe not in cEDH but optimized?
So I can say everyone is raging hard? These decks look sweet,who's going to win
is Tyler real? I've never seen his face
more then 3 trioms in a deck can get you, but 1-2 is fine.
Grazilaxx is Blue Tymna!
What a fun game :)
Well that was a lot of copycat play and I can't blame them. DRC is so good. Great game everyone!
Can we get a bullying counter from Dylan on cam? Lol
Actually you can use wheel of fortune too if you ddnt have brainfreeze. Btw vid is good, as always
*me, just casually watching the video. Sees Turn 06 twists to “666”*
…has this…has this ALWAYS done that?!?
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Awesome Game
What I don't get, is how can you guys afford these cards? SHHEEEEEEEESH
Proxies, like Cam's LED, the Magic Online Vintage Masters version, doesn't actually have a physical version
Where is the Tomer content? I want the Tomer content!!
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Great game guys! You're right, all Jeska/Ishai needs is Tymna lol
Might be the only one that noticed but… turn 05, 06?, 666
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Guys I think Underworld Breach might be a good card lol
So guys are so funny
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Bring back Joe
I feel like, Tyler shouldn't have played Amber, and Opal until he needed them... like what happens if like Nate (the last player in turn order) then plays Dockside? I know it had no consequences but... just seems like a bad choice and fostering a bad habit but maybe I'm just ignorant to something in cEDH?
You can also make the case that he is a proactive deck and should get rid of it before the other 2 decks in turnorder play their wheels
You have to weigh dockside against Wheel of Fortune effects discarding them, rhystic study making them draw your opponents cards, this Sisay list running Lavinia and Archon of Emeria, if there was a stax deck at the table then Trinisphere/Thalia/etc making them no longer mana positive, other rule of law effects...