Mudmixer, What am I Doing Wrong? Problems? Issues? Learning Curve?
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- Mudmixer, What am I Doing Wrong? Problems? Issues? Learning Curve?
We are still trying to figure out how to get a consistant output from our Mudmixer.
We are on a well and arre pulling water before the surge tank and pressure regulator so I added a pressure regulator at the hydrant and that seems to help.
We have been using Sakrete, but have been told Quickrete gives better results so that will be our next change.
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Awesome video!
Remember to keep the hopper at least halfway full throughout the entire pour to ensure your mix is consistent. If you let it get too low, your mix will start to get soupy on you.
Thanks for the advice!
Thanks for the hat and cozies. Great machine.
I'm sold on the mudmixer! Have been from when I first saw it. You're doing great with your videos too! I'm like you...I want to just do it myself and the mudmixer makes it where I will be able to.
We own a MudMixer with the hopper extension. We are developing a raw piece of property to retire to and have begun some concrete work. Sunday we used it for the first time. We are completely off grid so we ran it off our 2000 Watt generator and pumped the water from a 275 gallon rain water collection tote using a small electric pump from TS. I found when first starting the MudMixer it definitely comes out dry at first. Use the included cleaning hose and wet down the dry cement and that in the tube and then quickly adjust the water adjustment dial to get a wetter mixture and then back it off to the disired consistency. Hope this helps.
I also found it helps to get all the air out of the water hose. This will help consistancy for the first few minutes. Just run it back into your tank.
Any specs on that pump? I’m in exactly the same scenario.
@@lgrizzly I'm pretty sure it's a 1/4 HP pump. Tractor Supply sells it. It used to be about $80 but now it is $150. It runs on AC
Thanks for sharing! I also have a few upcoming concrete jobs around the house, and this seems much easier than a traditional mixer.
I'm pouring some concrete stairs today in which I'm only ouring 4-5 bags at a time thrn I have to wait a few hours. I was worried about using the Mudmixer, but it only takes a few minutes between each pour to clean out.
I grew up on and have owned properties w wells, I get it about the pressure tank and varying pressure. Check the range on your well. If it's 45-65 PSI, get a pressure regulator for 40 PSI. Or a variable pressure regulator if such a device is made. Install it on the hose as close to or on the MM. W the PSI regulated below the cut-in pressure on the well, the MM shouldn't ever see any fluctuation in water pressure. If your well pressure switch is set to 45-65 PSI (fairly common in my experience), that MM will see the 45 PSI up to the 50 PSI. Not much fluctuation, but maybe it's that sensitive. A pressure regulator will be far easier than a reservoir and special purpose pump.
Mine is getting old, so I'll check it. Thanks for the reminder.
Yesterday was my initial run. Mid 50’s temp. Found the sweet spot pretty quick. I did 63, 60 lb bags, (one pallet +7 bags) on uneven terrain by myself in about 1-1/2 -2 hours. The key is to get the bags as close as possible, have a 32 gallon trash can with a contractor bag in it for the used bags right by the mixer. Use the wheels and move the mud mixer along as you go. Hose that thing out immediately. 😊 I love it, totally worth it. See it’s potential.
That is awesome!
Thanks for bring us along for the (learning) journey.
I haven't used mine yet, but being on a well myself, I figured I'd be having the same issue that you described. I'm planning on taking one of the old 30 gallon poly tanks I have on my farm and connecting a stock tank high level shutoff valve at one end and a 12v water pump at the outlet and possible connecting a pressure regulator after the pump if necessary. It will be similar to the backup (50 gal) water system that I built for my house for power outages.... which works great. The tank gives consistent/steady flow and the pump gives consistent/steady pressure and the shutoff valve ensures that the tank is always full.
sounds great, keep us posted on how it works
your vids are helpful. thax
Thanks, It was a hard decision to purchase the Mudmixer due to the cost, but I'm glad I did
One problem I got is that when I used the extension hopper, my concrete Mix got stock, and it wasn't mixing at all.
There is this small piece that is removable, and that helped out when i removed it.
Thanks for your videos
Nice video! Subscribed to your channel! Great to see another grey haired guy doing stuff!! Planning a concrete project here and having access to a rental mud mixer is the ONLY reason I'm even considering doing it myself. I'm also on a well and was wondering about the changes in pressure from the tank. THANKS for the tips and also about Quikcrete vs. Sakcrete.
I really enjoy being able to do more concrete projects
Great video and very nice work sir!🇺🇸
Thank you
Good luck with finding Quikcrete. Here in the Dakotas there seems to be a shortage at the big supply stores. I find it is easier to move the mixer by pulling it then pushing it.
Home Depot has Quickrete and Lowe's has Sakrete. Sakrete works, but the rock are smaller than Quickrete which causes auger to catch. I use Lowe's just because it's closer
@@LetsFigureThisOut Ya I have looked online and Menards, Lowes, and Home Depot say they have it in stock but when I go to pick it up its not Quikrete. Menards is from Mexico I think.The thing is We built a bagging plant here in Rapid but no local stores sell the home town product. And I worked hard doing the craning and pipe fitting on that plant.
It has to be the flow of the dry mix going into the hopper or lack there if. Maybe if a guy keeps the bags flowing faster? Tipping it uphill a little?
I've found I do get better output if I can keep the hopper level fairly consistent by not letting it get too low
2 slump very strong 😀
Just got back from my southern location today and I inspected all of last years concrete to see how it looks after winter, and NO CRACKS!!!!!. I was very happy
Also, rolling it down the pour area, the fill is more level 😊
I was going to go with the 'Mud Mixer'. But I bought 'The Beast' instead. The dry hopper was bigger and it had 4 wheels which seemed way more stable. Same Price
It would br cool to do a side-by-side comparison.
@@LetsFigureThisOut It would. Right now finding vids of someone using "the Beast" doesn't seem to be there. There are some shorts from the manufacture, but nothing substantial.
That’s awesome. I bought 2 Mudmixer and am renting them. But I keep seeing videos of the beast. I’m curious to do a side by side.
Because they aren't giving them to youtubers to make videos. The average person isn't going to spend 3K+ for a cement mixer. @@Retsam03
Dude you have a water volume issue for sure. My Mud Mixer on city water stays between 25 and 26 max for perfect mixes. If I turn it up to 30 it's pissing liquid out. My idea for situations like yours is this. Add a water reservoir to the Mud Mixer and a small pump. It will all fit in the handle. That way your well only keeps the reservoir full and your volume is supplied by the pump which you properly size. It will never change.
Great idea
It looks a lot easier and faster than mixing it up in a wheelbarrow and pouring it.
There is no comparison between the old style drum mixer and the Mudmixer. Model T vs Modern Pickup
I had a HF drum mixer and got rid of it. Found that a wheelbarrow and hoe worked better. But this thing is a whole new ball game.@@LetsFigureThisOut
Consistency only comes when you set the mixer up correctly separate from your project on samples the same dimensions as your project's sidewalk sections and repeat those settings without deviation. No knob turning.
Pro tip: get rid of the grid reinforcement and use glass fibers and try ad mixture to compensate for your mixer's design flaws.
Good idea
at 6.18 it started to look good
We are getting better, I need to figure out the correct agle to improve consistancy
agreed
Four things, start at 50, leave the guard on. Prewet the mix tube. And don't use the hand sprayer to much while mixing.
Yup, we have learned that
We do a lot of self leveling concrete which is even more picky when it comes to water ratios. Our Self Level Concrete pump has a water pressure regulator that controls domestic water supplies that are too high pressure and lowers it to the pressure to accurately mix our product in our machine. HOWEVER like your situation we ran in to a domestic supply that had the volume BUT very low pressure. We had to connect a sprinkler boost pump from the domestic water supply outlet before the hose went into our mixer to increase our water line pressure to the mixer raising it higher so the supply would give what the mixer needed to accurately mix at the proper ratio. Understand that these machines are made for 99% of the market which has water pressure regulated by building codes. I would say that in a situation where you are working off of a truck that has all your supplies including your skid of cement and a tank of water to supply the mixer and a generator running power to the Mud Mixer the same would be needed as gravity would simply not be enough to supply the needed water to mix properly. My suggestion is to call them as ask what the water supply min and max water pressures it was designed to operate in.
I like the idea of the sprinkler boost pump. I'm on a well and the outside lines are before the pressure regulator the the pressure is all over the place.
I wondered if I would ever hear about this problem. It seems to me the water ratio would be very difficult for getting perfect slump constantl . i think an adjustable regulator is a must else have problems with the concrete slump. I looked the parts blowup at their website. Maybe the solenoid #15 functions as a flow regulator. Im thinking it needs a diaphragm regulator.
Since I'm on a well and I connect before the water pressure regulator, so I installed a regulator at the water riser and that has helped.
What an easier way to pour concrete!
I’m having the same problem, I’m on a well also. Considering putting a rv style regulator at the unit
That's what I wound up doing. Also make sure you get all the air out of the hose
Is there a particular brand of cement mix that you find works better than others when using the Mud Mixer? I heard you say you perfer 60lb bags over 80lb bags . . . fast setting vs others types?
Not quick setting. Just the basic Quickrete or sackrete. Home Depot carries one and Lowe's carries the other. I use 60lb bags cause I'm older
We mixed 952 bags of concrete thru our MudMixer last summer.
We have the same issues.
Tried a pressure regulator. Didn’t help.
Complained to MudMixer. They sent out replacement valve and solenoid. That didn’t fix the problem either.
Like you said, it will be coming out just perfect, then suddenly it turns to soup.
Love the machine and I consider this a minor issue, but would sure like to figure out what causes it. 🤷♂️
I've learned to keep an eye on it and as long as it doesn't get too out of control it'll be fine
Try a hose T with a pressure gauge, then you can see what's happening in real time: "what gets measured gets managed"
50 looks right.
It's pretty close
How about cleaning up the Mud Mixer? Please show me if you used a chemical degreaser or only water to clean up after use.
Thanks
I just use water and it only takes about 3 minutes. HOWEVER make sure you get the chute cleaned out.
Take a look at the output and tell me that's not like pissing in the ocean to raise the tide??
I usually work alone so between loading the hopper and moving the material, it's fast enough for me.
You need to turn the water on and reverse it until it gets wet
Very good idea
What psi regulator works? Thanks!
Just one of those RV regulators for a garden hose. The regulator in this application is just for consistency.
@@LetsFigureThisOut No specific psi recommendation? I am about to buy a 30 psi. Thanks.
First problem ITS EXPENSIVE! 3400 is ridiculously overpriced.
@@KINGSTONSPRIDE that was my thoughts exactly. If I were 20 years younger, I wouldn't buy it.
I believe they were about $2500 a few years ago. I was looking at them and it was justified to me at that price. The amount of labor saved vs a typical drum mixer is night and day.
2500 is still to much
Keep the hopper full
I heard back from Mudmixer and that is one of the things they also told me to do.
I am not a concrete specialist but to me, wouldn't have been easier to test the mixture into a bucket ? instead of directly into your slab ? cause if your mixture is to strong or to wet, you can always re work it with a hand drill mixer and then pour it in...
I'm not a concrete experts either, but I've found that due to the volume of concrete and how it get moved around by the rake, you can have variations in wet and dry as they will average out. I actually like to have wet concrete on the bottom as the dirt will absorb the extra moisture. Dry concrete is weak concrete so I'll error on the wet side. Especially on dry windy days. Any extra moisture will come to the top as the aggregate settles. However, If it's too wet you run the risk of the concrete shrinking down and not being level which could lead to a trip hazard.
Just my opinion as I'm not an expert
You are supposed to start and adjust the water “before” adding the concrete
I also learned to clear all of the air out of the hose before I start.
way to much warther and to slow putting in new bags maybe let it drop into a wheelbarrow and fine tune the mud before dumping it inn the form would help
I've gotten much better with a few tweeks
Put the mixer in the walk and keep rolling it down. Less shovel work.
Around the 16 minute mark we moved the machine. I think we moved it a total of 3 times.
I put an inline pump on to the hose near the hydrant and that worked great. The hopper being at least half full, and not being heavy handed in the water adjustment. Also I found if the mixer is leaning to much it effects the feed to the mix auger. Have a clean path for the mixer to move, and do not keep stopping and starting the mixing process. My first 3' of our first pour was full of honeycomb then wet, back and forth. So the heavy hand was the cause.
We've done a a few projects since the first project and everything you said is true. Also, we have only tried Sakrete but have been told to use quickrete
If you don’t mind me asking would you share the specs on that pump? Flow rate for example?
Put an accumulator in series right next to your well bore.
The company that makes Mud Mixer is really going to be hating it when there patten runs out.. They sell it way to expensive for what you are getting. There are other companies just waiting for that day to come
I think the patent only covers the auger, which can be easily changed. Also there was another mixer out before MM that's very similar. China will be producing similar units way before the patent runs out. FYI, the unit is not mfg in Lubbock TX
@@LetsFigureThisOut
Really? Not in Lubbock?