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- CNN's Christiane Amanpour and New York University Professor Stephen Cohen's discussion on Ukraine and Russia in 2014, including the Kremlin's position on alleged fascism in Western Ukraine.
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Whenever someone start speaking truth and give some prospective about the situation, CNN runs out of time. May be it’s by design
Maybe? You still have doubt? lol
It's so weird that whenever some lunatic murderer commits massacres and genocide, there are always you fringy crackpots out there trying to get "perspective" to rationalize the atrocities. You're probably sitting around collecting ted bundy memorabilia, and writing love letters to nicholas cruz and adam lanza.
It is !
whatever you say, nazi
Ah shut up move to Russia
Thought she was supposed to be interviewing guests rather than lecturing them
RIP Professor Cohen, Righteous one.
Righteous if he is gone.
Professor Cohen...warned us about today!!
I AGREE WITH YOU
Professor Cohen is 100% correct, well said sir.
He's my go to guy on Russia.
Thanks for elaborating on why he's correct.
He’s a Putin mouthpiece. Biased to the core. He thinks western Ukraine is fascist lol. They are the most Ukrainian part of Ukraine btw because they were occupied by Russia only for 40 years same as the 3 Baltic states. If all of Ukraine was under Russia for only 40 years Ukraine would have joined NATO with the Baltic states back in the 90s
@@Mr99Burns Professor Cohen has been one of the most authoritative and knowledgeable scholars on this subject in America -- and from well before the advent of Putin. His estimation of the Ukraine situation is based on this long amassed knowledge. Consequently he cannot be called a Putin mouthpiece. Furthermore he did not say western Ukraine is fascist. He said that extreme nationalist and neofascist elements played a significant role and were openly supported by the US and some of its NATO allies, both in overthrowing the Yanukovich government and in the composition of the next government.
Mrs James Rubin is naturally completely wrong... aka Amanpour. Rubin was Madeleine Albright's deputy and spokesman!
The closest I’ve seen CNN to a substantial discussion of the facts and they conveniently run out time. You got to love MSM. Cohen’s exposure of the non-MSM attractive rhetoric is painful to Amanpour. Lol
You get a like just for your the name you chose .good comment too.
exactly .... " we are up against the clock " 😂 😂
If the best that intellectuals can do is blame the west, western Ukraine for this mess is so pathetic. Does Ukraine not have a right to self determination? as it sees fit. Is it a crime that Ukrainians exercised their assembly and protest of the pro-Russian government? Yes blame the West, and western Ukraine for everything, as Vlad the thug smiles uncontrollably. Intellectuals versus reality, I know where I'm putting my money on. Definitely not on the latte crowd.
The CNN reporter Amanpour is absolutely biased and hilarious 😂😂😂
They let talk her for 2 mins and Cohen was left with less than 1 min...
Sometimes less is more. Amanpour's points were lost in the noise. Cohen was concise.
Professor Cohen is completely right. Check the facts. Do some journalism for a change.
Cohen is living proof that grown ups still exist.
They cut him off when it’s not what they want
In America, at least someone is telling the truth?
Amazing!
Well this is not Russia. Therefore is not so amazing…
How's the weather in Moscow, Boris?
Lot's of people give correct information in the US - they show up less and less on TV. Professor Cohen passed away some years ago, btw.
it is very good that America has at least one normal person. thanks to this man. greetings from southern Ukraine. if you want to help the civilian population, help with food and not with weapons
OK, Boris.
@@javajava8856 Victoria that u 😅
There is a lot of humanitarian aid distributed. Russia shows that they are providing for people in the Donbas and Mariupol.
It's such a pity he passed away. A true scholar.
Pick up an ak and go die for Putin or shut up honestly. Wanna be communists lmao
Amanpour talks as if she's certain of things which she couldn't possibly be certain about. She speaks of facts which don't exist. The professor seems to actually know what he's talking about. Amanpour is so unreasonable and is so emotional about her point of view that even Blitzer has to attempt to calm her down. It would be nice to have more rational analysis instead of all the anti-Russian propaganda we're being fed by CNN.
good post
The problem is the professor seemed to be the only one. It's diplomacy,but the Neo-cons seemed to believe it can be won by manipulating American public opinion.
Both talk as if they knew the facts first hand, although Amanpour just asks the professor to be cautious when generalizing. She never told him it's not true, she said do not generalize.
spot-on! A biased and insensible can be dangerous! The two guys had to generously give in to her "order" or "insistence"....
Ananoour us a paid propagandist for the Gangster State
I find it hard to believe that CNN would allow a 2 sided argument like this.
Lol. Amanpour is a stupid journalist.
Russians in the Ukraine are seen a majority of the ethnic Ukrainian population as brothers. The sentiment was against Putin's overbaring control of the country, and now Putin is fanning the fires of Russian nationalists in the Ukraine to foment instability in order to punish Ukraine's population for ousting his puppet.
He is invading the Ukraine under the exact same claims that Hitler invaded the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia, to 'protect' ethnic Germans from a non-existent threat fanned by propaganda and far right wing nationalism.
The professor is correct.
Rudolf Nemeth
Crimea is Russian, only given to Ukraine withing the Soviet Union. Now they are two countries. So Russian people end up in a foreign country. They tolerated up to now. But it was a matter of time. Now Ukraine has a coup government who started marginalize there rights. So things went out of control.
dusq123 Bullshit, in the 90's Russia signed a pact with the Ukraine agreeing to respect the Ukraine's territorial integrity and to leave the Crimea to them.
By invading the country and using Hitler Era smear and propaganda tactics to invade Crimea, he is breaking international law.
This Russian imperialism at it's finest.
This was the woman who denounced the Iraq War and gave Afghanistan some of the worst press in history. Yet she wanted US to be militarily involved in Syria and now Ukraine? Cmon Amanpour, I had respect for you, but its quite obvious who you are working for now.
👏👏👏 Professor Cohen! You explained all in just 30 seconds!
Stephen Cohen, an intellectual Vs. Amanpour, an entertainer.
Amanpoor is a self-righteous lightweight.
IT's CNN what did you expect
Why is CNN always running out of time just as a point is about to be made. After 30 plus years of being on the air, I would think that the network would know how to properly schedule time for their more complex debates. Give them more than five minutes to have a discussion.
Paul Kounine Thats a very good point indeed. They raise a lot of very good questions but never get to the point. Just name calling and disagreeing.
Guess that is how they control the sheep :)
Paul Kounine Also Cohen had far less time than Amanpour to talk, and the way she talked to the host at the end of the clip is ridiculous! Loved Cohen's reaction :)
Well said.
Bravo Paul!!
They spent like 2 minutes arguing about whether the russian ambassador says said something or not.
Where's the full debate? I want to hear Ms Amanpour making a fool of herself and her position in full.
esker
The fuck are you on? Re-read my comment. Consult your brain. Take a deep breath then if you wish, reply. I hope you do so I can see just how many more unfounded opinions and contradictions you can squeeze into a TH-cam comment. Just for the shits n giggles.
Cheers :-) You're a funny guy.
@@Crouchy232323 She really is a bloated and bloviated fool who thinks she queen of the press!!!
WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO TELL THE POPULATION THE TRUTH
I love it when professor Cohen crosses his arms at 2:45 and just sits back because he knows Amanpour is totally missing the point.
She's missing it on purpose. She's not there to try and tell the truth she's there to push deep state narratives.
No, he's being manipulative and only looking at it from one perspective. Their nation is very much a democracy and the past 8 years have proven that. A few separatists in Donbass supported by radical Russian nationalists doesn't change that, and you wouldn't expect them to have seats in their parliament with a Russian separatist group fighting them. The main reason Russia didn't go in full blown with Donbass was because they didn't want to give Ukraine the excuse to join NATO, which is why when Russia invaded 3 weeks ago they went for all of Ukraine, as they knew just taking the Donbass would result in Ukraine joining NATO, so they wanted to install a puppet regime to prevent that.
This guy is being manipulative by implying Ukraine is not democratic. IT is. Maybe not perfect, but it improved over the years and even back in 2014 was a democracy trying to break free from Russian Imperialism, centuries of Russian Imperialism. Russia is the non-democratic one, acting like conquerors. This guy is being extremely manipulative by focusing on Ukraine's much smaller mistakes and not recognizing the context of the situation, and making it seem like it was more than the Donbass. This guy and Putin both use Donbass as their justification for the rest of Russia's aggression towards Ukraine, attempts at control over Ukraine, real attempts to install puppets.
The Ukrainian people are now fighting for their freedoms, I hope everyone can clearly see that sympathizing with Putin's agenda is ridiuclous. I hope everyone can see that it was RUssia that was spreading radical nationalist ideas. They're the ones talking about reviving their Soviet Empire, they haven't even tried to hide it, not for a while now. Blatant conquerors. I hope there's no question now as to who started Donbass, as to why Ukraine has been justified in their attempts to defend themselves over the years, and how they are the victim of a brutal Imperialist dictator.
And that point is Ukraine has some far right fascists which gives the right for Russia to invade their country to impose their far right fascism. Kewl story broooo..,
Wtf has all this have to do with Putin invading a sovereign nation?
Lol he is missing popcorn only
Finally , one program attempted to have someone on a program telling the truth. Good to see the Professor on this network .
That was in 2014.
@@kemitafrq6890 Good point. They would never air this today.
Dr Cohen pasted away in 2019
@@freeman4899 damn shame. He is one of two academics who had this Russia vs Ukrainian situation figured out years in advanced.
John Mearseimer is the other expert professor.
When you consider the history of the United States and it’s often sordid intentions - along with the sordid intentions of the nations it has battled - then the question becomes “Why trust any of these players?”
I like Prof. Cohen’s attitude.
The US and it’s allies should stop pretending to be certain of ANYTHING that is outside it’s borders - and thus should stop interfering in foreign affairs.
When you consider the history of Russia then you shouldn't trust it. You think russian intentions are pure? I have a Latvian friend who has been telling me for years how scared she is of Russia, because of their past and because of Putin rethorics . If you don't trust the US, trust the eastern European countries.
Listen to Putin talking about Ukraine this last decades, you'll understand better the imperial mentality of Russian leaders
@@liul , why apply the anti-imperialist rule/ethic exclusively to Russia?
Lawrence, let the US and the west not mingle in Ukraine, and let Russia just move right in and do what it's doing to Ukraine in this war. Russia - Ukraine is all mine. There, problem solved.
@@republica843 , choosing ANY of these players is - from an ethical point - I believe is unwise. You might as well trust a Ted Bundy instead of a John Wayne Gacy, or choose Charlie Manson over a murderous policeman. You can do so, sure, or even choose the reverse scenario (the murderous policeman over Manson), and for you or your favorites it might - from a limited and self-centered perspective - turn out favorable in the short term.
But in the end all evil is the same. And the consequences are written everyday in our world. That is why we have always had another war right after the previous one, and always will as long as this lesson isn’t learned.
@@LawrenceCarroll1234 hi Lawrence I completely agree. We've all heard the phrase sometimes we have to chose the better of two evils. After the breakup of thee Soviet Union, I used to wonder how is Russia going to react to that beautiful gem, the Ukraine? Intellectuals can speak, but no one really knows what Putin truly thinks. Sad how much destruction and civilian loses. Here, Iraq and anywhere else.
wow i just noticed date, 2014. i thought this was 2022.
Stephen Cohen is right and as a Pakistani I find this difficult to admit
Now we remember US "foreign policy" over the last 30 years: Grenada (1983), Panama (1989), Libya (1986), Iraq (1991), Somali (1993), Yugoslavia (1995, no UN sanction), Afghanistan and Sudan (1998, one-side military strike), Yugoslavia (1999, no UN sanction), Afghanistan (2001, no UN sanction), Iraq (2003, no UN saction), Libya (2011). These are only open, direct military interventions. Without Russia and some other countries, there would be much more, like Syria (2013) and others.
America has been at war over 90% of its history.
Professor Cohen was excellent he speaks nothing but the truth
Brilliant mind He's the most knowledgeable person alive on Russia and the West. He studied and taught in Russia for forty years. So sad he's gone now. But how poingant .....this was 8 yrs ago Russia is 1,000% justified in removing the neo Nazis in Ukraine. Don't forget Treblinka.
@@scottteabergs5360 don't forget gitmo. 🇷🇺Z🇷🇺
@@scottteabergs5360 I did not forget that those killed were "Russian collaborators" as ukrop police said when they conducted "cleansing" (their words) and called it safari. But I Will not forget gitmo or abu gharib. Nice try with your non existent "moral" high ground. 😂😂😂 🇷🇺Z🇷🇺
@@scottteabergs5360 den haag is not recognized by Russians. But you will be Happy when Russians set up tribunal for western mercs and war criminals. 😂😂😂😂🇷🇺Z🇷🇺
@@scottteabergs5360 how is he isolated? west and it's stooges are 20% of the world. 😂😂😂 What matters is that any western merc cought there is not coming back. I am Serbian btw. 😂 I considered Putin's turd a better Man than any of your dear leaders in last 300 years. But it's ok I know that you are so brainwashed to think that everyone who disagrees with murika is Russian. 😂😂😂 Very proud of my Slavic kin (Russians) they stood their ground against vermin of the west. 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺Z🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
in Kiev the extremists and the Nazis it's true
Well done Mr.Cohen!
"We have to be very careful...." Not to tell the truth to our viewers.
This woman is completely dishonest, on all levels. So sorry to see Cohen has passed away and her voice is everything we hear. Truly regrettable, what a loss!
One is a huge cupid stunt and the other is a heavyweight intellectual!
I wish far more of the public were aware of Stephen Cohen, his perspective on Russian relations have been refreshingly academic and unbiased for so many years in this country.
I'm going to be very blunt with you. Cohen's body language and expressions would immediately call into question his integrity. If his position is correct, then why on Earth would he be responding the way he is? People who speak with conviction have aligned body language and voice characteristics. They have focus. They are calm. The speak with a quiet methodical pattern. I see the exact opposite with this man. If his opponent in this debate is either incorrect, or being deliberately dishonest in some way, then Cohen's reactions are entirely wrong. In fact, can you think of certain public figures and media 'personalities' who display similar conduct? I certainly can.
Ya well try hearing what Scott Ritter has to say. You just might actually learn what is really going on. Zelensky was an impotent leader and the Azov Regiment knew this.
@@CaminoAir ?
Nothing that Professor Cohen said was a reason for Russia to invade any nation. It doesn't matter if there are fascists or anti-Semites in a country, that is not a reason to attack a sovereign nation, a nation that has NO ABILITY TO ATTACK Russia. Russia, a nation where most Jews suffer from Russian antisemitism, was under no threat from Ukraine. Putin is now killing women and children. QUESTION: Would you rather be called a worthless Jew or watch your children get bombed? Putin like any other dictator is using false information to take over Ukraine which has Russia's main oil pipeline into Europe. Putin doesn't want all of Ukraine just the part with the pipeline. When the Saudi's made a deal to run an oil pipeline through Syria and Turkey, on to Europe, Russia bombed Syria back to the stone age. This is all Russian nonsense and Amanpour was right to call it out.
Just caught on to him. The propaganda of the west is such an abomination.
agree with the most points made by the NYU professor.
Of course, you are a Chi-Com.
Amanpour is a classic example of what is wrong with media. She chooses to present only what is convenient
Absolutely... We should have seen this coming
I have watched a number of Amanpor's shows. She is extremely bias and an insult to true honour journalism. This is obvious from her body language when she is interviewing people who hold views counter to the US government narrative, eg a sinister smirk on her face or rolling her eye balls. These are instinctive behaviour that reveals one's true self, that any defense to the contrary would be laughable. If she denies these behaviours, just ask her to check out her own previously recorded shows!
She is/was not a journalist at all. She is an agent
She used to be a great journalist whom I really respected but not anymore.
I can't believe Professor Stephen Cohen was allowed on CNN.
We have to be careful.. we have to be careful as a network....
haha she has to be careful about the world not finding out the truth
This is the first balanced panel I have heard on this subject. Prof. Cohen seems to be one of the few realists around today.
Alas he is no longer with us.
Professor John Measheirmer is very good at telling about this story.
@@daysjours - So I learned. A shame he missed the final installment of this tragic drama.
I love that cohen was there with a smile
Professor Cohen is truly a modern day hero!
Are you a Putin employee?
For God sake, let the prof. speak.
Really miss Prof Cohen, a voice of reason and sanity.
America seems to be unable to carry on without finding a villain, when all along that villain is himself
Russian actions are more than justified.
Azasm, in you dreams.
Great finish by the smart Professor. RIP Cohen
As if CNN gives a hoot about being nuanced when something doesn't suit their agenda
The journalist biased report is absolutely hilarious 😂😂
She said she did a lot of reports, but everybody knows what she did in Kosovo, Iraq Syria etc.
Bravo professor!
I thought armapour was a a progressive thinker but her true colours have been displayed in this crisis
Wolf had to stop it immediately the second the professor said the US was responsible. We can't have references like that slip out....no, no, no
Bravo professor Cohen!!!
well said mr. Cohen.... this is exactly what happened...
“The United States is a desperate, desperate, crumbling empire, but at this point so dangerous, because in that desperation, it will do anything and attack anyone in order to try to maintain its control,” he stated. “The United States is absolutely a wounded, declining imperial power that cannot be trusted under any circumstances.”
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Bruce Gagnon, coordinator of the Global Network against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space.
In this video a got a typical CNN commentator with BLITZER the ex - AIPAC employee as moderator, saying what their ZIONIST CEO and OWNERS want their PROPAGANDA TO BE.
Long live Dr. Stephen Cohen.
Good for Prof. Cohen - I do not want war words with Russia - they are NOT our enemy
"You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war."/ Winston Churchill /
Churchill, the butcher of India.
Professor is spot on!!
Cohen correct
Did Cohen get arrested after this interview? Because that was a beating in public ...
Up against the clock,if he talks against the US and NATO.
Lol @ the end, Amanpour really was trying too hard.
Rip Prof. Cohen.
Amanpour totally misses the facts of proff, cohen and i think she likes the sound of her voice to much, Be good if someone tells her to be quiet just once in a while
Cohen we miss you
What a classy intelligent person
Prof. Cohen is greatly missed.
Amanpour has lost any semblance of objectivity a reporter should have.
Unfortunately there is no more journalism, just propaganda
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R.I.P. Mr. Cohen
Professer Cohen is right.
This man just said the truth
RIP ~ Stephen Cohen. His voice would come in very handy right now.
Im with the proffesor
Professor Cohen: "I'm an outsider. I hate to see a civil war break out on CNN!" Well said, sir! Not only your comments about the Russia/Ukraine are so apropos, but they also sound like it could be a line lifted from Stephen Colbert.
My like goes to Stephen Cohen
She is one of those people that say "are you saying all?" When making a point, because she has none
I agree with Professor Cohen, he is giving all the facts. At least some one has the courage
to say it the way it is.
Cohen has professor title rightly so. RIP.
Amampour is pathetic, always has been. Prof. Cohen's laughter is the appropriate response to her Russophobia.
When did Christiane start working as a U.S. State Dept. spokeshole?!
Amanpour has no credibility at all. Wolf Blitzer at least have some.
Quest is the only one I trust out of that bunch.
I'm glad there're still true known-it-all professionals like Pro. Cohen, who dear to say about the real process of events in the East, no matter what the US officials say.
This professor is right on point , she is delusional
What an unprofessional, semi-demented., raving ranter of an excuse for a…’ journalist ‘.
Why does Christine Amanpour keep saying you know? How does she know we know?
Wow, fast forward 8 years later, and it looks like Stephen Cohen was right about the West, Ukraine, and Russia once again.
I'm laughing with you, Mr. Cohen.
I agree with the professor
Why is the truth so hard to find. Somehow this is well known 8 years ago.
Blitzer let's Ananoour blab on with US propaganda for over a minute and, a, half while he gives Cohen a mere 20 seconds...
Woman, wait for a moment and listen to what that man has to say! He is right. From there you have to start.
Wolf Blitzer: “Excellent conversation...” 😂 That was a conversation?! C. Amanpour was once able to do her job ( just barely); then, about twenty years ago, she decided that she was going to start expressing her own opinions on the air...
I respect her ability to call-out propaganda when she sees it, using facts as her guide. In the last election, the "ultra-nationalists" that Cohen seems to be blaming for the war (echoing Putin propaganda) were embarrassed when they only won 4% of the vote. Amanpour was pointing out that yes they are there, but that they don't represent the vast majority of Ukrainians who want to join the EU. There are greater percentages of ultra-nationalists in most European countries AS WELL AS RUSSIA.
@@jeremy2875 - no, the ultra-nationalists got in cahoots with the Ukrainian military. Ukraine's army absorbed Neo-Nazi militia groups like Azov Battalion and made them the National Guard. These groups were then put in charge of combat operations against the Donbass, where they were running amok. United Nations observers stationed across that conflict zone reported that the overwhelming majority of ceasefire violations came from the Ukrainian side, mainly in the form of indiscriminate shelling of residential areas. Take a look at the photos. With Putin's invasion, now the rest of Ukraine is getting to experience what ethnic minorities in Donbass had to go through all these past 8 years.
@@manofsan I read the UN Report on Donbas, it was titled "Talks Taking Place against Backdrop of Russian Aggression, Delegate Stresses, Contrasting Kyiv’s ‘Positive’ Steps." Pretty clear where the problem lies.
@@jeremy28754% of the vote with the will to use force and violence...
It only taken 3% for the US to boot out the English...
@@jeremy2875 the UN ?
Spot on prof Cohen . How about that .
I hate it when someone so clearly biased is so confident even thou he shes knows ones biased
And that's why you'll never get an interview with Putin.
Amanpour trying to censor Wolf? LOL
Makes sense now
Go Wolf! Live up to your name!
I don't want the U.S. getting involved in a conflict in the Ukraine over whether or not they should join the EU.
Amanpour married the assistant Secretary of State in the second Clinton term, James Rubin, the deputy of Madeleine Albright.
Rip professor Cohen