People here saying that Maye is Trubisky are scouting the school and the number and not the player Imagine Houston said “Stroud ?? He’s from Ohio state, no thanks” Totally insane way to draft anyone
Drake Maye is a better prospect in my opinion, but as someone who roots for the Lions I hope they go all in on Caleb Williams or keep Fields. Also Maye deserves better than fans that compare him to Trubisky
Washington knows if Chicago is even slightly interested in trading back it means they can just sit pat and get the guy they want. Plus new GM who said he wants to build through the draft isn't going to hand over a bunch of draft capital.
And that shit failed! If Drake is that, please Bears take him😂😂 SamHowell a big game hunter. He was a slow processor. What are they teaching in NC?!@yiehnewtamiru7324
they can sit back all they want- Bears will just trade with another team and theyll miss out on CW- obviously their guy. Owner said they were goin after CW and promised Kingsbury as much. They even just traded Howell- well c
Good call, so far Maye has definitely been better than Caleb. He's really cleaned up his footwork and short game accuracy, which I think were his biggest issues. Imo his level of play is in the same tier as Andrew Luck’s, Justin Herbert’s and CJ Stroud’s during their rookie seasons
I agree I don’t mind Maye, but I prefer Caleb. Also after watching them both I just have to disagree him on their ability to create. Caleb is just better at creation than Maye, although Maye is good at it, Caleb excels within that field
When it comes to the most important position, you should never “settle” for a guy you like fine. Gotta go for the prospect you have the most conviction in (assuming you control the draft haha)
@@deshawnthomas the funny thing is I said this exact same thing on twitter. But if we do draft Maye I’ll temper my disappointment nexuses I think he’s a good prospect as well.
@@Mr.Perry33 but why? Maye is not anything like Mitch other than the school he played at. He's been a locked-in starter for two years, played a bunch more games as a starter than Mitch, and has looked better doing it. Mitch was not nearly playing at the level of Maye in his short starting stint. I struggle to understand this comparison.
Why would the commanders give up anything lmaooo such a contradiction. Maye is overall better, I’m sure scouts know that already . They stay at 2 and draft the best QB force the bears to draft Williams kyler 2.0 lol bears will be the bears
I've been voting Drake Maye. I'm also ok with Caleb too, believe you have to take one of those two. Trade back with Washington get more picks and take Maye #2. Best of both worlds.
If Dan Snyder still owned Washington, then yes, they'd be willing to give up a lot of picks to the Bears. But not the new group. Washington will stay at #2 and draft Maye themselves. Washington is rebuilding and needs a lot of pieces, and won't be willing to give up a lot of draft capital.
Yea that's who I'm big on is Drake May! I'm sure he has flaws to his game also but I like that from wat I've seen he looks like more of a pocket passer but can also scramble if needed
Washington isn’t trading up. Maye is more NFL ready than Caleb and could end up better. I think Caleb needs more development than Maye. Washington isn’t going to draft Caleb unless he’s there at 2. He’s honestly kind of a gabble and trading up for him is plain stupid. I kind of want Drake Maye more anyways
Nah either way Washington will take Caleb or maye, there’s no point in trading up. They’re so close as far as prospects go that there’s no way they sell the farm
Drake Maye is even more accurate than Caleb Williams when it comes to the deep balls. He is the better pick. More accurate and quick release. I also think he would be able to take on the NFL pressure better than Caleb. If you look at his interviews, he looks more Pro ready. Shane Waldron hire just smells Drake Maye... Drake is the perfect quarterback in the draft to run his offense.
I don’t know why some people get so mad at some football guys thinking Maye is better. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We don’t know if he’s right or wrong. The vitriol spewed is odd to me. If Poles goes with Maye, I’ll cross my fingers that he’s right. If Williams lives up to the hype and Maye is average at best, Poles will lose his job in a few years. Please get it right!!!
It would be a classic situation of the Bears thinking they are the smartest ppl in the room. "Size.. first and foremost" lol hard to keep listening after that. We need to get over the whole "prototypical size" as a key trait. It gets you to fall in love with ppl like deshone kizer 😂
Not sure where you're getting that -- that QB class was nowhere close to as touted as this one, and Mitch had a lot of questions for being a 1-year wonder with inconsistent field vision and decision-making, prone to panic under pressure. Maye's worse year was on par with Trub's best. The 2022 season blows that Trubisky season out of the water.
What is this guy talking about? The size thing is a legitimate concern, but his other points are nonsense. Williams works the entire field as much as Maye does and from comparing both, I've seen way more plays racking up YAC for USC than NC. That tells me Williams is putting the ball in better spots and getting it out faster. Williams can use touch and velocity on his throws depending on the situation and Maye tends to be a velocity thrower and doesn't get as much air under the ball in certain situations, Tice admits as much in the video. As for athleticism, there is no comparison. Maye looks like a lumbering sasquatch when he scrambles and he doesn't seem all that great with his escapability. Sure Williams will go down easier based on size, but I'd trust Williams to identify pressure earlier. His pocket presense and awareness is definitely ahead of Maye. What's even more ironic about this take is Maye has been sliding in mocks recently. Williams hasn't moved. This being the internet let me add the disclaimer. This is not an endorsement on what I want the Bears to do. None of this is an implication that one or both will or will not succeed in the NFL. This is strictly abou comparing Maye and Williams talent level and ability up to this point.
No he didn't. He was a late riser all the way up to being drafted and was never projected in front of Trubisky and I saw maybe one or two mocks that had him ahead of Watson. Never saw him projected in the top ten. He was seen as a boom or bust prospect. @@kimnovak2546
Get poles to talk to Tice. Please. I have always thought Drake Maye is way better than Caleb. Just his just besides athelticism and his is super fast for a guy his size.
if you're getting #2 in this scenario as well, you're not getting 2 seconds AND Allen/Payne AND a future first. #2, #36 OR #40, and a future pick. Bears fans need to tamper their expectations about what the Commanders would give up since they're only moving up 1 spot.
I like Caleb but if we can trade with Washington and pick up a 2nd rd and '25 1st rd and Jeron Payne. Which is over paying but I think there's a legitimate chance they would do it. Then draft Maye at 2 would be so down with that
@dokedoker3340. Agree! They’re not getting all these first rounders, etc. Way too much. I’d make the trade now if that were the case. It makes even less sense when a first time, first year GM is at the helm. He would immediately be starting his career with an insane lack of picks. At the absolute most, I think Wash would give up the 2nd and 4th this year, and a 1 next year. That’s max! Obviously, being a Bears fan, I hope I’m wrong.
Lmaoo hahaha what maye is better scouting knows that the public does not . We are not trading bears nothing . Good luck with Caleb we are happy taking the best qb at 2 . We will In fact break the record for picking a player during draft night . They will just skip to the patriots pick lol
Been saying The Drake should be the guy for months now but the whole propaganda on Caleb has me wandering. Probably the safer bet in my opinion with the Drake.
This is the classic thing ppl fall in love with. "He just looks like the prototype." Bro... Justin fields looks like the prototype, too lmao. Can you come up big when it matters? Maye has arm talent sure but caleb is superior imo
Maye is rated over Daniel’s because Daniels will probably weigh in about 200lbs and that matters for holding up in the nfl. Also Maye was very clutch when trailing and has been Throughout his college career. People just dog him over the last 2 games where his team was overmatched defensively on the road against teams with nfl dudes on d. He has plenty of clutch moments in his career. His team was really bad. He was the only reason they won any games at all
Why? Go look at the history of drafting QB’s. Anyone who says they know which QB is going to be a star and who isn’t is a liar, delusional or overly confident.
Drake does not have modern era NFL speed. He's a scrambler, but you can easily put hands on him. Worries me he has a slow release & slow reading progressions, everything the country says why Fields is a bust.
I’ve been in the Drake Maye minority since the start of the Bears offseason. Maybe not as much upside as Caleb, but certainly no personality red flags to speak of. I do hate that he is another UNC QB that wears 10 though. Scares me.
I don't know who will be the best out this group, but I believe it's not caleb. If fields go I wish him the best, he was set up to fail in this organization and never had stability.
I appreciate the perspective, but Maye & only two yrs of experience is a huge red flag. I believe we have already experienced this with both Mitch & Justin. Neither of this yrs SB QBs would beat Maye in the underwear Olympics ijs...so although "undersized," I'll go with the more proven commodity in Caleb. 🐻 ⬇️
Given the Bears' horrid decision making on drafting QBs they might be better off by trading away the number one and if necessary the number two if that's part of the 1st overall pick trade and then just draft whatever QB is left over. "Hey, it wasn't our fault, it was the only guy left.". Yep, Fields reads the field slowly and poorly so that's why he does well on deep flys because the read is much simpler than seeing the middle.
@@paulieprinceton4550 Everyone loves to reference CJ like there is a CJ that comes out every year. Everything Tice is saying about Mayes was said about Trubisky in 17’, he called him a dumb Herbert. If that doesn’t sound like Trubisky I don’t know what does. If you’re going to pass on the best prospect you might as well stick with Fields and draft MHJ. Can you imagine the backlash in this city if we Pick Mayes and there is a noticeable downgrade from CW and Daniel’s. Why put yourself in that position.
@@alexamerling79 It’s not lazy if you remember the 17 pre draft. Mayes is likely the 3rd/4th best qb prospect in this year’s draft. I know us Bears fans love reliving the past but do we really want to do this again. Besides dude wears 10 just like Mitch.
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People here saying that Maye is Trubisky are scouting the school and the number and not the player
Imagine Houston said “Stroud ?? He’s from Ohio state, no thanks”
Totally insane way to draft anyone
They had similar numbers bro stop 😂😂😂
The film says he is. Just maybe a little faster
Drake Maye is a better prospect in my opinion, but as someone who roots for the Lions I hope they go all in on Caleb Williams or keep Fields. Also Maye deserves better than fans that compare him to Trubisky
Trade down to 2. Take Maye and extra draft picks. Maye drives the ball down the seem extremely well.
Washington knows if Chicago is even slightly interested in trading back it means they can just sit pat and get the guy they want. Plus new GM who said he wants to build through the draft isn't going to hand over a bunch of draft capital.
Didn’t they(49ers) trade up for Trey lance
And that shit failed! If Drake is that, please Bears take him😂😂 SamHowell a big game hunter. He was a slow processor. What are they teaching in NC?!@yiehnewtamiru7324
they can sit back all they want- Bears will just trade with another team and theyll miss out on CW- obviously their guy. Owner said they were goin after CW and promised Kingsbury as much. They even just traded Howell- well c
Good call, so far Maye has definitely been better than Caleb. He's really cleaned up his footwork and short game accuracy, which I think were his biggest issues. Imo his level of play is in the same tier as Andrew Luck’s, Justin Herbert’s and CJ Stroud’s during their rookie seasons
I don't mind gettnig Maye if we get more picks but still prefer Caleb.
I feel like drafting Maye would be a Trubisky situation all over again
I agree I don’t mind Maye, but I prefer Caleb. Also after watching them both I just have to disagree him on their ability to create. Caleb is just better at creation than Maye, although Maye is good at it, Caleb excels within that field
When it comes to the most important position, you should never “settle” for a guy you like fine.
Gotta go for the prospect you have the most conviction in (assuming you control the draft haha)
@@deshawnthomas the funny thing is I said this exact same thing on twitter. But if we do draft Maye I’ll temper my disappointment nexuses I think he’s a good prospect as well.
@@Mr.Perry33 but why? Maye is not anything like Mitch other than the school he played at. He's been a locked-in starter for two years, played a bunch more games as a starter than Mitch, and has looked better doing it. Mitch was not nearly playing at the level of Maye in his short starting stint. I struggle to understand this comparison.
I'm so glad I'm not alone this is a relief!!!!
Why would the commanders give up anything lmaooo such a contradiction. Maye is overall better, I’m sure scouts know that already . They stay at 2 and draft the best QB force the bears to draft Williams kyler 2.0 lol bears will be the bears
Maye is the better qb
Its either Caleb at 1 or trade down to 2 and its Maye. Its one or the other im convinced at this point.
Real interesting take & makes a ton of sense
WILLIAMS 1ST. MAYE TO WASHINGTON
I've been voting Drake Maye. I'm also ok with Caleb too, believe you have to take one of those two. Trade back with Washington get more picks and take Maye #2. Best of both worlds.
My dream scenerio for the Bears.
Interesting. The middle game, yes. Essential to win. And these days size matters.
Draft Maye and let him sit amen .
If Dan Snyder still owned Washington, then yes, they'd be willing to give up a lot of picks to the Bears. But not the new group. Washington will stay at #2 and draft Maye themselves. Washington is rebuilding and needs a lot of pieces, and won't be willing to give up a lot of draft capital.
Yea that's who I'm big on is Drake May! I'm sure he has flaws to his game also but I like that from wat I've seen he looks like more of a pocket passer but can also scramble if needed
Please draft
Drake Maye
Prize of the draft? You can’t make this up. Lol
he was right
Never thought of this would be an amazing situation for the Bears if this pans out.
Watch the UVA game and it will open your eyes to why he is not the #1 pick.
These are the same people that wanted Trubisky at QB
If that’s the case you force Washington to give up a kings ransom and trade down to 2 and get Maye
THIS
Washington isn’t trading up. Maye is more NFL ready than Caleb and could end up better. I think Caleb needs more development than Maye. Washington isn’t going to draft Caleb unless he’s there at 2. He’s honestly kind of a gabble and trading up for him is plain stupid. I kind of want Drake Maye more anyways
Nah either way Washington will take Caleb or maye, there’s no point in trading up. They’re so close as far as prospects go that there’s no way they sell the farm
Drake Maye is even more accurate than Caleb Williams when it comes to the deep balls. He is the better pick. More accurate and quick release. I also think he would be able to take on the NFL pressure better than Caleb. If you look at his interviews, he looks more Pro ready. Shane Waldron hire just smells Drake Maye... Drake is the perfect quarterback in the draft to run his offense.
He’s right about Maye attacking the middle of the field. I love Fields, but he doesn’t very often.
Maye and Waldron. Let’s hope the poles and bears figure this out. ,
Drake Maye alllll Daye !!
And maye is the youngest hes only 21 , JD is 23, caleb is 22
I don’t know why some people get so mad at some football guys thinking Maye is better. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We don’t know if he’s right or wrong. The vitriol spewed is odd to me. If Poles goes with Maye, I’ll cross my fingers that he’s right. If Williams lives up to the hype and Maye is average at best, Poles will lose his job in a few years. Please get it right!!!
It would be a classic situation of the Bears thinking they are the smartest ppl in the room. "Size.. first and foremost" lol hard to keep listening after that. We need to get over the whole "prototypical size" as a key trait. It gets you to fall in love with ppl like deshone kizer 😂
I agree with Nate.
Yeah, the same was said on Mitch. I'll pass
Not sure where you're getting that -- that QB class was nowhere close to as touted as this one, and Mitch had a lot of questions for being a 1-year wonder with inconsistent field vision and decision-making, prone to panic under pressure. Maye's worse year was on par with Trub's best. The 2022 season blows that Trubisky season out of the water.
I think Williams will be inconsistent at the NFL level.
Good piece!
His tape looks blah, arm strength overrated
Drake Maye to Chicago at #2
Trade #1 to Washington
What is this guy talking about? The size thing is a legitimate concern, but his other points are nonsense. Williams works the entire field as much as Maye does and from comparing both, I've seen way more plays racking up YAC for USC than NC. That tells me Williams is putting the ball in better spots and getting it out faster.
Williams can use touch and velocity on his throws depending on the situation and Maye tends to be a velocity thrower and doesn't get as much air under the ball in certain situations, Tice admits as much in the video.
As for athleticism, there is no comparison. Maye looks like a lumbering sasquatch when he scrambles and he doesn't seem all that great with his escapability. Sure Williams will go down easier based on size, but I'd trust Williams to identify pressure earlier. His pocket presense and awareness is definitely ahead of Maye.
What's even more ironic about this take is Maye has been sliding in mocks recently. Williams hasn't moved.
This being the internet let me add the disclaimer.
This is not an endorsement on what I want the Bears to do. None of this is an implication that one or both will or will not succeed in the NFL. This is strictly abou comparing Maye and Williams talent level and ability up to this point.
Mahomes slid too
No he didn't. He was a late riser all the way up to being drafted and was never projected in front of Trubisky and I saw maybe one or two mocks that had him ahead of Watson. Never saw him projected in the top ten. He was seen as a boom or bust prospect. @@kimnovak2546
you still think this?
I also have maye over caleb its not that close
I strongly believe that Drake Maye will have a much better NFL career than Caleb Williams.
Please God listen to this guy!!!
Thank GOD he won't answer your prayer.
Get poles to talk to Tice. Please. I have always thought Drake Maye is way better than Caleb. Just his just besides athelticism and his is super fast for a guy his size.
I'm not worried. The bears will screw it up
Just take the best player available. End of story.
MHJ
Only if we get 36, 40, a DT and 2025 first as well.
if you're getting #2 in this scenario as well, you're not getting 2 seconds AND Allen/Payne AND a future first. #2, #36 OR #40, and a future pick. Bears fans need to tamper their expectations about what the Commanders would give up since they're only moving up 1 spot.
I like Caleb but if we can trade with Washington and pick up a 2nd rd and '25 1st rd and Jeron Payne. Which is over paying but I think there's a legitimate chance they would do it. Then draft Maye at 2 would be so down with that
@dokedoker3340. Agree! They’re not getting all these first rounders, etc. Way too much. I’d make the trade now if that were the case. It makes even less sense when a first time, first year GM is at the helm. He would immediately be starting his career with an insane lack of picks. At the absolute most, I think Wash would give up the 2nd and 4th this year, and a 1 next year. That’s max! Obviously, being a Bears fan, I hope I’m wrong.
Lmaoo hahaha what maye is better scouting knows that the public does not . We are not trading bears nothing . Good luck with Caleb we are happy taking the best qb at 2 . We will In fact break the record for picking a player during draft night . They will just skip to the patriots pick lol
Been saying The Drake should be the guy for months now but the whole propaganda on Caleb has me wandering. Probably the safer bet in my opinion with the Drake.
I rather build around fields than maye
People like this said Trubisky was generational 😅😂
You'd think people would have learned by now. This feels so Mitchish.... Justin Fields is a better fit for the Bears
They said the same thing about ryan leaf....
And how many Heisman Trophy does Drake Maye have? Williams and Daniels have one. And why do so few people have Drake Maye ranked above Caleb Williams?
How does Drake Maye get rated over Daniels? Maye has played terrible in the moments that matters. Let’s not hype the guy just because he has the look.
This is the classic thing ppl fall in love with. "He just looks like the prototype."
Bro... Justin fields looks like the prototype, too lmao. Can you come up big when it matters? Maye has arm talent sure but caleb is superior imo
Maye is rated over Daniel’s because Daniels will probably weigh in about 200lbs and that matters for holding up in the nfl. Also Maye was very clutch when trailing and has been Throughout his college career. People just dog him over the last 2 games where his team was overmatched defensively on the road against teams with nfl dudes on d. He has plenty of clutch moments in his career. His team was really bad. He was the only reason they won any games at all
Nate tice should have his scout card removed for making this claim
Why? Go look at the history of drafting QB’s. Anyone who says they know which QB is going to be a star and who isn’t is a liar, delusional or overly confident.
Drake does not have modern era NFL speed. He's a scrambler, but you can easily put hands on him. Worries me he has a slow release & slow reading progressions, everything the country says why Fields is a bust.
What are you watching? 😂
I’ve been in the Drake Maye minority since the start of the Bears offseason.
Maybe not as much upside as Caleb, but certainly no personality red flags to speak of.
I do hate that he is another UNC QB that wears 10 though. Scares me.
The sad truth is no one is talking about Drake May because he's white. Change my mind, I dare you.
I don't know who will be the best out this group, but I believe it's not caleb. If fields go I wish him the best, he was set up to fail in this organization and never had stability.
How wrong is this dude now 5 weeks into the 2024 season, Nate Tice your credibility is gone for 2025!
lmao this didn't age well
No sir. No North Carolina quarterback we too traumatized behind Mitch Trubusky.😔
Scouting the helmet is a bad idea
That’s crazy….imagine if Houston said ….lnah Strouds from Ohio state, let’s take Levis instead”
I guess because we have a bad girlfriend we stop dating women? Come on brah.
Mitchell Trubisky part 2.
Get Nate tested
I appreciate the perspective, but Maye & only two yrs of experience is a huge red flag. I believe we have already experienced this with both Mitch & Justin. Neither of this yrs SB QBs would beat Maye in the underwear Olympics ijs...so although "undersized," I'll go with the more proven commodity in Caleb. 🐻 ⬇️
Given the Bears' horrid decision making on drafting QBs they might be better off by trading away the number one and if necessary the number two if that's part of the 1st overall pick trade and then just draft whatever QB is left over. "Hey, it wasn't our fault, it was the only guy left.". Yep, Fields reads the field slowly and poorly so that's why he does well on deep flys because the read is much simpler than seeing the middle.
The bears have Fields. The locker room and fans WANT FIELDS. End of story. 🐻 👇
Speak for yourself. Fields is ok but it's time to have a true franchise QB
Truuuuuuubisssssssssssskkkkkkkkkkki I can see this being worse than 17
Right Stroud failed because Ohio State QB’s never succeed. Oh wait.
What does Trubisky have to do with Maye except for NC?
Lazy comparison based on what school they came from...
Don’t scout the helmet
@@paulieprinceton4550 Everyone loves to reference CJ like there is a CJ that comes out every year. Everything Tice is saying about Mayes was said about Trubisky in 17’, he called him a dumb Herbert. If that doesn’t sound like Trubisky I don’t know what does. If you’re going to pass on the best prospect you might as well stick with Fields and draft MHJ. Can you imagine the backlash in this city if we Pick Mayes and there is a noticeable downgrade from CW and Daniel’s. Why put yourself in that position.
@@alexamerling79 It’s not lazy if you remember the 17 pre draft. Mayes is likely the 3rd/4th best qb prospect in this year’s draft. I know us Bears fans love reliving the past but do we really want to do this again. Besides dude wears 10 just like Mitch.
Maye is the better qb