How To Solve Wheel Vibration | What Are Hub Centric Rings?
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- What happens when you install aftermarket wheels and now your car vibrates? In today's video I explain why most aftermarket wheels will need hub centric rings to eliminate vibration. However not all hub centric rings are the same! The aftermarket wheel companies manufacture wheels to fit several brands of cars. So most of the time the center bore of the wheel will be larger than the center hub lip on your car. The hub centric ring will that gap so the wheel rotates perfectly around the center part of the hub on your car. I had a set of hallow plastic hub centric rings and the car had a noticeable vibration going speeds of 30 mph and higher. It was very noticeable and very annoying. It was a constant vibration and a consistent feeling. I even had the wheels re mounted and balanced to hopefully solve the issue. But after swapping the hallow plastic hub centric rings to aluminum ones, the vibration went away. There had to be a lot of flex in the plastic ones and the lug bolts still allowed a bit of movement and created the vibration. With the aluminum hub centric rings the wheels are now perfectly centered on the car hubs and with the lug bolts torqued to spec again, there is no vibration. So make sure if you install aftermarket wheels on your car, have correct high quality hub centric rings to go with them if needed. This drove me crazy and I am glad I learned something new and fixed the issue! Solid polyurethane hub centric rings also work great, just make sure you always have a solid hub centric ring and nothing hallow.
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I just had new aftermarket wheels and tires put on my new Tiguan, around 50 mph I got the shakes and went away until around 70mph. After multiple road force balancing from discount tire the issue never quite went away. After watching your video I replaced the plastic ones with solid aluminum and my vibrations went away. Thanks for the video.
Nice glad to help!
Thanks for video
I had exact same issue with a new golf i just bought and got some new wheels, had annoying vibration at 60mph +. I had tires rebalanced and was afraid i had bad wheel, came across your video and was inspired to get solid aluminum rings, it took care of vibrations completely, drives great now
Thanks again
Hey got the rings but still getting vibration do u think they didn't balance properly
Some mechanic shops definitely need to watch this video. Funny. I literally just got new aftermarket wheels installed today and one of the guys that swapped my tires from my Gramlights 57DR’s to my new Konig Hypergrams took off my hub centric rings and said “hey whoever installed your old wheels decided to put an extra center ring on your hubs.” And I was like 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️bruh it’s not extra. They’re SUPPOSED to be there. So I told them to redo it.
Oh wow! Dumb guy there for sure 😅
It's unfortunate... Some mechanics just do the bare minimum and want to just get paid without doing extra, etc. Kudos to the ones that go the extra mile.
Thank you for this video, this fixed the severe vibration I had on my Lexus GS after getting new wheels. I bought the same ones you linked, installed at discount tire, and solved.
Nice! Glad to help!
I had the same issue last week I got a 2011 GS 350 Lexus on 22 inch wheels. And my car was shaking. Really bad at 65 miles an hour. Now I can take it to 85 with no vibration.
Bro! Thank you for this video.. I just bought some new rims and tires for my truck and didn't even think of this. Just bought some solid ones now before the shop installs my whole setup. I'll just sell the plastic ones. Very great video. Thanks again.
Nice! Glad to help!
Thank you for your video, you confirm that I made a good call. I put these into my custom wheels thanks to the shop's owner advice, solid alloy ones.
Never seen those plastic ones by the way.
Yeah I had solid polyurethane before and they were fine. But I'd definitely make sure you stick with solid good ones! Crazy how big of a difference it made
You'll regret the metal rings. They'll eventually melt to the hub or wheel center bore. With or without anti seeze
Good information my guy!
Thanks! Glad to share my experience with others!
You literally described all the symptoms I've been experiencing.. got new tires, new suspension, wheels balanced etc, couldn't find the issue and remembered I have plastic hub rings from 15k miles ago. Can't wait to get in there and see whats been going on then replace with metal ones
It should make a huge difference for you!!
Did it fix it?
@PunjabRockstar15 tbh I'm not sure 100% what the cause was, here's why.. when I went to get hub rings replaced, shop found one of the wheels slightly bent. Fixed the bend and with new hub rings, all vibrations went away.
good info! Even though its short it was great!!
To the point ;)
I agree with what other people have said.Plastic isn't going hold your wheel in place or stop any vibration. They are simply for making it easier to line your wheel up.
The wheel studs do all the work.
Then how come the vibrations went away going to the solid aluminum ones vs the plastic ones? Also read through the comments. Tons of people installed solid aluminum ones and every one of them said that stopped the vibration compared to plastic ones or not having anything. Why do you think the factory hub has a solid metal lip to correspond the the recessed portion in the factory wheel? The solid connection eliminates vibration.
It's like mounting an engine with plastic mounts . How long do you think that will last?
You need steel or aluminium to hold something in place not plastic. I do agree that they make it easier to line your wheel up but that's all.
@@britpoper Yeah the aluminum rings hold the wheel in place perfectly centered while driving so there isn’t vibration. Plastic rings allow some give that the bolts alone can’t 100% compensate for. That’s why the aluminum rings solve wheel vibration
I think the main cause is simply the buyer analyzing the quality of the machining finish of the rims when they arrive especially universal rims. I just went through this and let me tell you from a distance (1') away they look great but the machining is rough when you look at the suff you dont see. My car did the death wobble between 49-55 mph and higher omg it was scary. I got the rings and it fix the issue perfectly. I took the center caps off the rims and every time they were off center to the main hub. The rings made sure it couldnt move at all now its smooth as butter. For 10 more $$ for plastic ones its def gonna be your fix.
The plastic rings let the wheels wobble. Not enough rigidity in them. The Aluminum rings solved the wobble issue since the wheel couldnt move up and down. The pressure was no longer on the lug bolts. Metal ring took it and fixed it
I just got new wheels for my Audi A4 but I need to buy this I just don’t know the measurements that I need
If you don’t have the rings, just center them with tapered lug nuts. You only need two. Finger tighten both, then slightly tighten. Install the correct lug nuts on the other studs, tighten lightly in a star pattern. Remove tapered nuts, install the correct nuts. Tighten and torque all nuts.
The rings still help. Most lugs are tapered foe a central secure fit. But the solid rings still help prevent vibration
I just got 22s for my Colorado from Audiocity USA they send me three types of centric rings but one fits right on hub but won’t go on rim the large goes on rims perfectly but loose on hun with out smaller so would I have to use all three together or use two different one
You can only use one ring per wheel. Might have to order on Amazon or something. Measure the diameter of the cars hub and the diameter of the wheels hub. Click the link I put in the description. They had a bunch of sizes
Just ordered these got the same car. Same issue. I hope this sorts it. Got the hollow stupid plastic rings. Getting vibration. Hope the metal rings sort this issue.
Yeah this should make a big difference!
Honestly, mate, big up to you for sharing this. Changed mine to the mental spigot rings, and it has sorted out that annoying vibration. They need to ban them plastic hollow spigot rings. Don't even know why they make them. Thanks mate, anyone reading this with the same issue, buy them metal spigot rings. Sorted the problem out immediately!
@@shamimurrohmanali5032 Glad you got it solved! Yeah I don't know why anyone make the hallow plastic ones. They don't work. The solid polyurethane ones are good too. But not cheap hallow ones
Other videos on hub rings , they recommend plastic hub rings cause aluminum rings require anti seize or some kind of treatment before installing them so wheels won't be difficult to dismount when you eventually need to rotate or change tires. What say you?
That could be usefull. However I've never had issues. I'll be taking the wheels off the S3 to put the car back to stock for sale, so I guess I'll find out if anything like that happened since I installed them lol
This is correct! It's not a one time thing either when applying antiseeze, that's where the problems come if you don't have a competent mechanic/ shop you deal with.
Really hoping this fixes my GTIs wobble never even considered the hub bore diameter when diagnosing this issue for like 3 years
Hope so! Just make sure you get the exact fit. Any bit off and they won't do much. So get the exact to the tenth of a millimeter and you'll be good
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it worked! I can finally enjoy driving my car again
Pray it fixes my issue 😂
I’m looking to hopefully buy some aftermarket wheels next spring but I’m kind new to this how will I know what size hub rings to get that will fit with the wheels I buy ?
Just look up your cars stock hub size. Can measure it too. I just measured these wheels center bore to figure out the size I needed. They are cheap, so if you have to buy two different sizes if you're unsure. Not the worst thing
do they need to be replaced every year or so ? had to get those for my GTR as i run rohanas aftermarket wheels. solved all the vibrations.....
I wouldn't think so. We had these on for 2 years and they were still nice and tight
I’m having the same issue and have the same plastic non solid ones , ordering me a set like yours and praying it gets fixed 😪
Should fix it!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed if I get them here tmrw they are going on right away , I will let you know asap
Nice!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed brother thank you so much it’s fixed !!!!!
I just ordered the plastic ones 😢 but when i get my next tire rotation ill put the aluminum ones on...
If they are solid polyurethane you'll be good. But the hallow plastic ones are nearly useless. Definitely go with aluminum to make sure things are perfect.
How would it be possible to mount the wheels off center, when using the correct bolts for the wheel?
How can the hub help center the wheel, unless it's a press fit?
I can't deny your experiences. It just doesn't make sense to me..
I put new aluminum hub rings exact side and new set of tires and balanced and it still had slight vibrate. Do you think it’s the rims. ( the rims are brand new
Could be the wheels themselves, suspension or hubs. Try your stock wheels if you can to know if it's the new wheels or the car itself
Hope you put Anti seized on the rings cause steel on the hub and aluminum rings will fuse together
@user-lb9st8li1i I'm afraid i will learn the hard way as well on the plastic rings or having to replace the hubs cause i never put rings on to start with and it's been about four years when i put aftermarket wheels on
I know my Supra has aluminum hubs. Cant remember if these are aluminum or not. But good point!
I just got after market wheels and I installed them with plastic hub rings and I still feel vibrations going 60mph +, do you think that aluminum hub rings will solve this issue, thank you.
I'd definitely try them! The link in this video has several sizes. Make sure it's the right size and try. Definitely a noticeable difference from the plastic ones I had to these aluminum ones.
Is there a certain brand I should get for a Honda civic
They just need to be the correct size to fit snug on your cars hub and wheel hub
I have the ring still doing it !
Maybe you have a bent wheel? Or worn tires?
Fitment sold me the hollow plastic ones for $15, tried them and still wobbly… I ordered some aluminum ones on Amazon for $10. I’m hoping this fixes it.
You should be good! The plastic ones are no good. Unless they are solid polyurethane
@@BrosFOURRSpeed no i believe that they are the same ones you had. Gorilla brand, plastic but hollow in the center. So annoying to have to remove my wheels again but I hope it will be the last time. Thanks for the help!
Yeah would definitely stick with solid rings
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I put the aluminum rings on and helped a lot. They were also less expensive than the plastic rings .
I was only able to hit 100mph but it felt solid for the most part. I did get some anti-seize and put a little on during installation so that should keep them from corroding. Thanks again for the advice! 👍🏾
@@RichsRantMMAofficialchannel Nice! Glad to help!
I bought some aftermarket wheels from discount tire and they forgot to install my hub rings I didn’t find out till after I took it to four different stores discount tire stores purchased new tires had a control arm and brakes replaced and finally my mechanic said hey your missing centric rings 3000 miles later boy was I pissed after a round trip to Denver from Houston it was a rough ride WATCH OUT FOR DISCOUNT TIRE PEOPLES
Wow that's crazy! Yeah I learned a lot about wheels with these. Makes a huge difference. Wheels feel heavy too when the rings aren't proper
If I were to get hub centric rings would I be able to use spacers? The spacers I bought are only 4mm.
Your wheel spacers should be hub centric then if they are that small. Are they just thin disks?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed They are but they have a small indent within the center ring so i’m not sure if that means they are hub centric
@@mootsa3 Interesting. What brand are they? Do they fit snug on the cars hub? And does the cars hub stick past them to lock into the wheel?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed They are apr and I have not even test fitted them yet.
@@mootsa3 That’s a good brand. You’d think they are good then. Test them out and see if you have any vibrations. Do you have longer wheel bolts? If needed
I have the same symptoms on my Tiguan but I cannot find solid aluminum hub centric rings for 57.1, I have after market 20” wheels and it’s just says 57.1 cb
Did you click the link in the description? You should be able to find one on Amazon. Just need the wheels bore and your cars hub bore
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yes I did but on Amazon it’s has 57.1 to another bore size or the other way around, where I bought the wheels it just says 57.1 cb size…
@@fredjones5327 what’s the bore size on the wheels? And what’s the size of the hub on your car?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed bore size on the wheel is 57.1 on the truck I do t know I’ll find out
Take a measuring tape and measure the outer diameter of the hub on the car, and then the diameter of the hub on the wheel
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when you mean vibration did this also mean seeing your steering wheel shake crazy?
Yeah is wobbled a bit. Not that much tho. Car felt more like I was riding over consistent bumps in the road. Like the whole car would bounce up and down. If I put my head on the head rest, it would bump my head forwards and back
yea mines is crazy i bought wrz wheels for my golf and we have the same bolt pattern but different offset and it shakes crazy at times then its normal at times so i definitely need a hub centric ring
I just changed my brake pads and rotors and now my steering wheel shakes. Mechanic possibly lost one of my centering ring but never knew such a thing existed. Now I have to double check because I even balenced my wheels 3 times
what are those plastic ones? so i don’t get those lol
They just came separate with the wheels. Definitely stick with either solid polyurethane or aluminum. Hollow plastic is garbage. At least these metal ones are cheap
Is that what real is? I though it was the tire quality. Danm 🤭😲
Yeah the hub centric rings make a difference! The tires are 2022 build date and Michelin. So it’s not them
I don't understand why mechanics aren't using it.
Also auto parts shops like AutoZone advance O'Reilly
...etc they never have in stock
be careful if you have steel rims, and use aluminum hub rings as they seize over time
Yeah that's be good. These are all aluminum for me
After keep going back to get the car balance 5 times, they finally told me I needed hub centric rings...geez....
Yeah these make a world of difference!
Same with me!
They used only for alignment. After the nuts are tightened they do absolutely nothing
I wouldn't agree. How do you explain why the car vibrated without them, and then didn't vibrate with them? It keeps any and all flex away from the wheel bolts and keeps the wheel centers while rotating.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed its because when you use them the wheel is central so no wobble but when you didnt use them the wheel was off centre because the alignment wasnt done. its the same as a clutch aligning tool. BTW this isnt my opinion its a fact
@@coltuppal The alignment didn’t change in this video. Alignment was done previous to the video. Only thing I changed in this video was the rings and them alone made the wobble stop. These hub centric rings make it to where the wheels didn’t vibrate anymore while driving. Makes them centric to the hub vs lugs. So for people with aftermarket wheels. It’s wise to have solid rings to make for a smoother ride then without.
im talking about aligning wheels on your studs
@@coltuppal ok got it. However explain how driving without the centric rings made the car vibrate. And once the rings were installed, the vibration was gone. It’s because they hold the wheel perfectly aligned to the hub. The whole point of the video is showing how you need hub centric rings on wheels that have a larger hub then stock. And that the rings eliminate vibrations.
I don't think these are actually needed if you install your wheels with a little care. The lug nuts will actually center the wheel for you if you wobble your wheel while you snug up the lug nuts. The wheel gets off center because the mechanic isn't taking the time to do it correctly, they just drive the lugs on with an air gun and don't pay attention. There's nothing wrong with using them, I'm sure it makes it easier but if you take your time and install the wheel correctly you don't need them.
No you still need the rings. I put these wheels on and I always slowly snug bolts in a star pattern. The metal hub ring further keeps them centered. I've done this on many cars. And since I installed the wheels each time, the same way, how else can you explain why the vibrations went away with the rings installed and came back with the rings removed? The rings makes the difference
@@BrosFOURRSpeedI always use It hub centric rings, few years ago mechanic forget to put It hub centric rings and my car was vibrating so when I re do it with It hub centric rings no more vibrations.
@@TokyoHomes yeah they make a difference!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed 100%
The rings do not bear any load.
They are simply for lining up the wheel correctly.
It's not about taking the load of the car. It's about taking the vibration out. Clearly there was a difference from the plastic ones to the metal. When from the car vibrating to driving perfect. So having them a dense material makes a difference
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I get tired of hearing how if you don't use rings, all the weight is on the studs.
@@clarkkent9634 But technically that’s true. The pressure of the lug bolts is what’s holding the wheels tight. The rings alleviate it and absorb any vibration that the studs can’t handle. They clearly make a difference. Only explanation for why the car vibrated without the solid metal ones.
Weird that no one has a definitive answer to this argument...have heard both sides and both are convincing. I have a problem if the hard plastic rings dont work, bc i refuse to put metal rings on the hub.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed The RINGS DO NOT SUPPORT ANY LOAD WHAT SO EVER.
so I have twied 4 different pairs of plastic rings and 4 different pairs of metal still a vibration. Wheel hubs replaced, cv shafts, control arms inner and outer tie rods. But rides smooth with factor wheels. Been using the rings konig said i need. Not Iw ill having the wheels balanced with out the tires mounted.
Dang that's weird. Has to be a bent wheel or poor balance
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I will post here later what my findings are when they try balancing it without the tire on the rim. I'm hoping it's just a belt in the tire
@@vector150 Yeah hopefully you get it dialed in!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you very much for the reply and inwill update later
Had the same issue...either your tires or your rims. Do you have any curb rash on the rims? They could be slightly bent. Tires also make an incredible difference. I had cheapies on and they would vibrate at high speed and make a lot of low speed noise. Swapped out the rims and the tires for some good bridgestones along with solid plastics hub rings and she rides smooth as butter now. Good luck!