I think it's also worth bringing up that while the Deep Ones have some powerful tools in the form of shoggoths and other summoned/bound creatures, it's a recurring theme in Lovecraft that reliance on such critters for extended periods of time always backfires. In such a human-Deep One war, there'd probably be a turning point where they overcommit to try and seize victory only to implode shortly afterwards as their "servants" turn on them.
Then again, a Shoggoth uprising may not take sides. They did wipe out Elder Thing civilization, so armies of rampaging rebellious Shoggoths are not something I'd appreciate happening amidst our human civilization either, even if they did turn against the Deep Ones as well!
As I understood it all the "modern " life on earth was derived from the shoggoth, and the deep ones were just closer to the original amorphous shapeshifter nature of the shoggoth than the rest of life on earth hence the interbreeding ability.
Except that they've had millions of years to both refine the process and develop immunities to eldritch effects. We may not be able to handle it, but _they_ can.
@4:20, heh, I have had this exact argument on learned academic forums such as 4chan. WW1: over half a billion field artillery shells fired. WWDeepOnes: a handful of torpedoes (from the comically inept era of early submarines) results in a serious setback to their plans for retribution.
The torpedoes used in 1931 had 600-lb warheads. Detonated several hundred yards down, the overpressure would actually be quite devastating to marine life, with a COLOSSAL burst radius. Enough torpedoes would be the equivalent of a nuclear strike at depth. In addition, they were firing at a "civilian" city, not a fortification. I can easily see Y'ha Nthlei being devastated by such an attack. Plus if the strike released their shoggoth from its containment area ...
Delta Green actually had the government go further in the years post-Innsmouth, firing torpedoes, or depth charges at presumed Deep One cities or wiping out human hybrid colonies. It's actually one of the things that gets them shut down (the first time, before their resurrection as a program between world war 2 and the vietnam war).
Given this was four years ago, i have no clue if youre going to see it, but i'd love to see one of these for a Color Out of Space just because it's such a bizarre monster.
Another great video, and a real joy to watch. Talking the Deep Ones and Cthulhu and the oceans, Mr. Petersen, have you ever heard of a story or scenario where humans learn that porpoises and dolphins worship Cthulhu, and that 'whalesong' is actually an endless hymn to the glory of Great Cthulhu? A friend told me about it but he can't remember the actual title.
I'm preparing to run "The Raid on Innsmouth" from the wonderful "Escape From Innsmouth" book, and this video has been VERY helpful in homebrewing more depth to the Deep Ones' history/biology, developing more interesting combats, and even adding an entire sideplot about Esther Marsh developing a chemical weapon from compounds found in Y'ha-Nthlei to use in their planned attack on the surface world! Thank you for this great video, Sandy Petersen!
@@calvinmaynardtmt Btw, title of game is "Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of The Earth.". Also heard there's a Delta Green short story on the Innsmouth Raid.
12:44 Strange note on this. Whereas I think you have mentioned they may be Byahkees or etc. in another video, Delta Green actually took a strange step and made them their own created called just "The Black Winged Ones" , which are described as "Semi-insectile, semi-humanoid entities carry out murder at the behest of Cthulhu or Its cult masters. Their true appearance is a mystery; their outer form seemingly drinks light or at least sheds perception like an oil slick. The few surviving witnesses don’t generally mention eyes or even number of limbs, but they all mention the black wings Some carry knives or scimitars, or make use of bayonets or razors found nearby." Not entirely a fan of the idea but at the very least it's interesting. They even (SPOILERS) show up in the Fall of Delta Green free RPG Day Scenario that involves a hippy Commune and a really clever tie to the fallout of another Lovecraft story as to why they are there. The scenario itself is... alright, it could use some work and would work better as a short story or with chunks taken out or expanded.
I don't even remember the name it but I like the story where Conan goes into a City full of drug addicts and fights a Shoggoth. He doesn't really defeat it but he makes it decide Conan's GF isn't worth the hassle.
8:18 I hate how a specific, particular meme has been so ingrained in my mind that I can't help but wince whenever I hear anyone say those two specific words.
I am running a 1920's CoC Campaign. The investigators have gone into Innsmouth searching for a missing member of their party. They decided to stay at the Gilman House, and of course I had the Deep Ones ambush them in their hotel room. Room 428, anyone? The investigators are in a bad way, having been disarmed by the sudden attack. I keep hoping the players will decide to run, go for the windows something... but so far it's looking dicey!
I hate to be the "um, actually" guy, but some deep-sea fishes do have hands and "legs". Handfish and frogfish I think are a species of anglerfish, and their fingers look kinda like a mix of frog toes and small squid tentacles, not unlike the villagers in the film Dagon.
Darkest of the Hillside Thickets did an album called "Spaceship Zero" which is basically this. They also wrote a role playing game based on the TV show of the same name (sadly, no such show exists).
7:25 The point about many Deep Ones having been human in the early decades of their lives is something I had not considered, and it's particularly frightening. Those who were human before really do know everything about human civilization in the era where they lived that stage of their lives, and might potentially have knowledge about our technology, tactics, disposition of our populations and military, etc. The idea that all the quick wittedness and will of the Shadow Over Innsmouth's protagonist (that allowed him to survive, evade, and escape the throngs of his pursuers in the story) might have eventually been bent to serve the Deep Ones if he had become one (assuming he had not later killed himself like his uncle did) is horrific. Whatever mistakes in thinking the pursuing mob made when they failed to stop his escape, they would not make again, because he would have become one of them and spread his knowledge and way of thinking to them.
I appreciate the emphasis on just who/what the Deep Ones are in league with! Could not the Deep Ones "simply" raise the ocean levels, similarly as in the case of "The Doom That Came to Sarnath"? It could make for an exciting and relevant modern-day CoC scenario, what with the water levels rising as a result of climate change. Could humanity only be accelerating this long-game plot of the Deep Ones? 15:43 I will never be able to take that spell seriously ever again. Thank you!
I don't see how. It's not like they can magically create more water. The Doom that came to Sarnath wasn't a water raising, but rather a land-lowering, and a gigantic magic curse in the Dreamlands.
@@SandyofCthulhu I forgot that that was the dreamlands---good point. Perhaps, then, if they might be able to utilize some of their 'arcane science' in order to affect changes at the bottom of the sea floor to shift plates in the Earth's crust, they could cause tidal waves, at the very least? I am really trying to stretch it, here! XD
Also Tell Me Have You Seen the Yellow Sign/ The updated version of the scenario in Tales of the Crescent City states that the white thing may have been Hastur.
Rail guns, a one shot kill easily. Electricity would do it too, maybe even more effective. We've also sonic weapons which would be devastating in a being using sonar. The best offense would be antimatter explosions and the resultant gamma rays which could double-tap the universe. Btw, they've hands like us to facilitate tech use; our best defenses can be used against us. Metalworking in the sea isn't impossible because hydrothermal, tho you'd expect them to want to mitigate or avoid corrosion. Electricity is a possibility in deep dwellers, opening up possible electroplating(we only see what's on the outside, so steel overlayed with gold maybe). Nukes are possible: heavier elements gravitated to the core and could be extracted with patience.
Read War with the Newts, and substitute the Newts with Deep Ones. SPOILERS: through underwater engineering the newts sink the continents one by one genociding humanity.
The era might play a role. It would certainly be more helpful for us to fight them with our technology now than back in the 20s. A bolt-action rifle versus a minigun or such weapon? And their edge with poisons and chemical weapons might have some challenge with the things the governments probably have hidden away. If they issued one big coordinated attack, using "human" allies, then maybe they could create enough chaos to severely hinder humanity. But I think if this happened we'd all descend into guerilla warfare and we would ultimately win. Isn't that why the Japanese in WW2 said that behind every blade of grass in the USA is a gun, something like that? So perhaps the fighting and mass destruction would be concentrated in coastal cities. Inland Russia, China, USA, South America, Africa... enough humanity would live to fight back. Shoggoths would be a problem. One could probably tear apart a city but destroying the controller of the shoggoth? And with modern weapons? Shoggoth VS napalm? High explosive? And what if they have a hidden weapon, something unknown? A virus or some way to poison the oceans and waters we consume... It's definitely a fun concept but perhaps as you said it was Deep One propaganda when they said they could just wipe us all out.
The bottom line is the Old Ones with technology vastly surpassing anything we have today, lost a war against them. Admittedly they were decadent Old Ones but still.
I pose a few thoughts. Deep ones mate with us do to our level of sentience. As for weapons, while explosives and combustion are lost the would have things akin to harpoon guns and slingers that spear fishermen use. They should have the ability to forge, if they can get near enough to open lava sources. Or just have factories, much like in Shadow Over Innsmouth.
I'm coming at this more from the Conan and a Hyborian Age perspective so fighting a deep one sword to sword seems like it'd be a nice big sort of early level boss fight.
"If I could pronounce it right, then I would be a hybrid sending propaganda trying to convince you not to fight us." Oh, I'm on to you "Sandy" or, as those closest to you call you, "Xxvy'Qptofth?"
He's more-or-less describing X-Com (2): Terror from the Abyss. It's basically X-COM UFO Defense with a bunch of Cthulhu art slapped on for a cash grab, but the atmosphere and lore is way better than the original because its much more consistent and grounded. "Deep Ones" are one of your primary enemies and were artificially constructed for a task and are at war with the surface humans. They capture human "stocks" to create more. Humans bodies are modified and installed with microchips and other biotech modifications. An alien fetus is attached and consumes the body as it grows eventually consuming everything... except the eyes. The alien races use all kinds of "water" acceptable weaponry. "Lightning" guns, "sonic" weapons, gauss rifles, dart guns, psionics to distress or control enemies. Also melee, toxins, etc. One of the crazy smart game decisions for the game is you start with guys with torpedo launchers (underwater rocket launchers). The game is brutally hard, so a few guys with a powerful weapon is super helpful. But there's a catch. The second the aliens start invading cities on land, you go into battle and realize none of your torpedo launchers work on land. So if you didn't start researching more powerful weaponry by now and replaced them, you are in for a world of hurt. You go to take a shot and then you just hear, "click." If you want to try it, get OpenXcom. It's an open source project that lets you play both xcom, and xcom terror from the deep in much higher resolutions and modern features (also fixing game breaking bugs!). I just beat Terror From the Deep a year or two ago for the first time using that. The music (especially modder remixed orchestra versions) are __haunting__ and still make my heart rate rise just hearing them.
I feel the deep ones could be more dangerous if they got more creative. Like for instance they have shoggoths. Like yes they are slow on land but shoggoths fucking skitter around at the speed of a honda civic so like... Make wearable shoggoths? Like a Shoggoth suit or a Shoggoth mech that increases you speed and strength? Plus those fuckers can make any biological organ so like... No guns? Make a portable shoggoth that shoots poison spines like a nail gun. Or one that zaps its enemies with electricity like an electric eel. Have a shoggoth that can shoot a highly pressurized stream of water or venom to slice through they're enemies from a distance.... Maybe even use one to create a possible EMP wave.... I feel like just having access to shoggoths makes you pretty OP. Not to mention all the crazy arcane abilities deep ones have access to...
In your war of Deep Ones and humans, one thought I would like to add. They are not free agents with thoughts and goals of their own. They are a servitors race. They could be used as cannon fodder by list of creatures and individuals above them. This could not be a war of their own choosing. Dagon or Mother Hydra like individual creature rebelling against the Star Spawn masters. Or Cthulhu could be ordering the war. Also who said they are monolithic in intensions. There could be factions. Complete chaos to confuse your players. Yes, my evil mind works that way.
I wouldn’t advocate for this, but since deep ones are amphibians, we could always cause oil spills, and they will probably die; amphibians are very sensitive to water quality.
I think it's also worth bringing up that while the Deep Ones have some powerful tools in the form of shoggoths and other summoned/bound creatures, it's a recurring theme in Lovecraft that reliance on such critters for extended periods of time always backfires. In such a human-Deep One war, there'd probably be a turning point where they overcommit to try and seize victory only to implode shortly afterwards as their "servants" turn on them.
Black Hammer a massive shoggoth uprising would certainly add to the spectacle!
The Shoggoths killed the elder things, the Deep Ones would be even easier.
Then again, a Shoggoth uprising may not take sides.
They did wipe out Elder Thing civilization, so armies of rampaging rebellious Shoggoths are not something I'd appreciate happening amidst our human civilization either, even if they did turn against the Deep Ones as well!
As I understood it all the "modern " life on earth was derived from the shoggoth, and the deep ones were just closer to the original amorphous shapeshifter nature of the shoggoth than the rest of life on earth hence the interbreeding ability.
Except that they've had millions of years to both refine the process and develop immunities to eldritch effects. We may not be able to handle it, but _they_ can.
@4:20, heh, I have had this exact argument on learned academic forums such as 4chan. WW1: over half a billion field artillery shells fired. WWDeepOnes: a handful of torpedoes (from the comically inept era of early submarines) results in a serious setback to their plans for retribution.
The torpedoes used in 1931 had 600-lb warheads. Detonated several hundred yards down, the overpressure would actually be quite devastating to marine life, with a COLOSSAL burst radius. Enough torpedoes would be the equivalent of a nuclear strike at depth. In addition, they were firing at a "civilian" city, not a fortification. I can easily see Y'ha Nthlei being devastated by such an attack. Plus if the strike released their shoggoth from its containment area ...
Delta Green actually had the government go further in the years post-Innsmouth, firing torpedoes, or depth charges at presumed Deep One cities or wiping out human hybrid colonies.
It's actually one of the things that gets them shut down (the first time, before their resurrection as a program between world war 2 and the vietnam war).
Given this was four years ago, i have no clue if youre going to see it, but i'd love to see one of these for a Color Out of Space just because it's such a bizarre monster.
Fighting Deep Ones < Joining Deep Ones
"They can interbreed with humans" Yeah, but you'd have to be reeeally drunk.
Another great video, and a real joy to watch.
Talking the Deep Ones and Cthulhu and the oceans, Mr. Petersen, have you ever heard of a story or scenario where humans learn that porpoises and dolphins worship Cthulhu, and that 'whalesong' is actually an endless hymn to the glory of Great Cthulhu? A friend told me about it but he can't remember the actual title.
I'm preparing to run "The Raid on Innsmouth" from the wonderful "Escape From Innsmouth" book, and this video has been VERY helpful in homebrewing more depth to the Deep Ones' history/biology, developing more interesting combats, and even adding an entire sideplot about Esther Marsh developing a chemical weapon from compounds found in Y'ha-Nthlei to use in their planned attack on the surface world!
Thank you for this great video, Sandy Petersen!
You ever played the 2000's Call of Cthulhu PC Game? It had the Innsmouth Raid in it.
@@dubuyajay9964 I haven’t - sounds like I need to check it out!
@@calvinmaynardtmt Warning. Game controls can be jank at times. If you just want the fluff, just watch a 100% Let's Play.
@@calvinmaynardtmt Btw, title of game is "Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of The Earth.". Also heard there's a Delta Green short story on the Innsmouth Raid.
These videos are great! They really spark the imagination.
12:44 Strange note on this. Whereas I think you have mentioned they may be Byahkees or etc. in another video, Delta Green actually took a strange step and made them their own created called just "The Black Winged Ones" , which are described as "Semi-insectile, semi-humanoid entities carry out murder at the behest of Cthulhu or Its cult masters. Their true appearance is a mystery; their outer form seemingly drinks light or at least sheds perception like an oil slick. The few surviving witnesses don’t generally mention eyes or even number of limbs, but they all mention the black wings Some carry knives or scimitars, or make use of bayonets or razors found nearby."
Not entirely a fan of the idea but at the very least it's interesting. They even (SPOILERS) show up in the Fall of Delta Green free RPG Day Scenario that involves a hippy Commune and a really clever tie to the fallout of another Lovecraft story as to why they are there.
The scenario itself is... alright, it could use some work and would work better as a short story or with chunks taken out or expanded.
I don't even remember the name it but I like the story where Conan goes into a City full of drug addicts and fights a Shoggoth.
He doesn't really defeat it but he makes it decide Conan's GF isn't worth the hassle.
13:00 I don't think it's a very high bar to disrupt the flight of an F35 🤣
8:18
I hate how a specific, particular meme has been so ingrained in my mind that I can't help but wince whenever I hear anyone say those two specific words.
I am running a 1920's CoC Campaign. The investigators have gone into Innsmouth searching for a missing member of their party. They decided to stay at the Gilman House, and of course I had the Deep Ones ambush them in their hotel room. Room 428, anyone? The investigators are in a bad way, having been disarmed by the sudden attack. I keep hoping the players will decide to run, go for the windows something... but so far it's looking dicey!
as I recall, Room 428 is the one with the broken latch.
@@SandyofCthulhu Yes sir. :)
Very interesting series. Keep it up!
Im pretty sure they are connected to Dagon.
I hate to be the "um, actually" guy, but some deep-sea fishes do have hands and "legs". Handfish and frogfish I think are a species of anglerfish, and their fingers look kinda like a mix of frog toes and small squid tentacles, not unlike the villagers in the film Dagon.
Those ain't fish those are just scouts
@@swampdonkey1567 I... Don't get it.
@@lordlammi1562 there scouting ahead for the rest of em. Show em some Gun magic if you get the chance
This makes me want to run a Call of Cthulhu game where the deep ones rise up from the depths to wipe out humanity.
do it!
I'd recommend running Pulp Cthulhu. It's better for action focused games.
@@spartanalex9006 I've heard of that and would like to do it!
Darkest of the Hillside Thickets did an album called "Spaceship Zero" which is basically this. They also wrote a role playing game based on the TV show of the same name (sadly, no such show exists).
The "End of The World" RPG books has that as a scenario in the "Wrath of The Gods" book.
7:25 The point about many Deep Ones having been human in the early decades of their lives is something I had not considered, and it's particularly frightening.
Those who were human before really do know everything about human civilization in the era where they lived that stage of their lives, and might potentially have knowledge about our technology, tactics, disposition of our populations and military, etc.
The idea that all the quick wittedness and will of the Shadow Over Innsmouth's protagonist (that allowed him to survive, evade, and escape the throngs of his pursuers in the story) might have eventually been bent to serve the Deep Ones if he had become one (assuming he had not later killed himself like his uncle did) is horrific. Whatever mistakes in thinking the pursuing mob made when they failed to stop his escape, they would not make again, because he would have become one of them and spread his knowledge and way of thinking to them.
"Octopussy"
Wasn't it implied in his story about the U-Boat that they were being follow by Deep One/Dolphin hybrids?
I appreciate the emphasis on just who/what the Deep Ones are in league with!
Could not the Deep Ones "simply" raise the ocean levels, similarly as in the case of "The Doom That Came to Sarnath"? It could make for an exciting and relevant modern-day CoC scenario, what with the water levels rising as a result of climate change. Could humanity only be accelerating this long-game plot of the Deep Ones?
15:43 I will never be able to take that spell seriously ever again. Thank you!
I don't see how. It's not like they can magically create more water. The Doom that came to Sarnath wasn't a water raising, but rather a land-lowering, and a gigantic magic curse in the Dreamlands.
@@SandyofCthulhu I forgot that that was the dreamlands---good point.
Perhaps, then, if they might be able to utilize some of their 'arcane science' in order to affect changes at the bottom of the sea floor to shift plates in the Earth's crust, they could cause tidal waves, at the very least? I am really trying to stretch it, here! XD
Excellent, you know what you are talking about.
Also Tell Me Have You Seen the Yellow Sign/ The updated version of the scenario in Tales of the Crescent City states that the white thing may have been Hastur.
Rail guns, a one shot kill easily. Electricity would do it too, maybe even more effective. We've also sonic weapons which would be devastating in a being using sonar. The best offense would be antimatter explosions and the resultant gamma rays which could double-tap the universe. Btw, they've hands like us to facilitate tech use; our best defenses can be used against us. Metalworking in the sea isn't impossible because hydrothermal, tho you'd expect them to want to mitigate or avoid corrosion. Electricity is a possibility in deep dwellers, opening up possible electroplating(we only see what's on the outside, so steel overlayed with gold maybe). Nukes are possible: heavier elements gravitated to the core and could be extracted with patience.
is that photo to the right, a picture of Lester Crest? or is it Sandy ? ^^
Read War with the Newts, and substitute the Newts with Deep Ones. SPOILERS: through underwater engineering the newts sink the continents one by one genociding humanity.
10:10, Sandy Peterson is a deep one. Confirmed. Give up now. Welcome your new fishy overlords.
Do we know the matchup stats between bats and f35s because I know they aren’t great vs like birds and rain.
Don't forget the biotech that they liberated from the elder things and and yithian technology.
10:07 HE'S A FISHFROG...GET 'EM!!!
The era might play a role. It would certainly be more helpful for us to fight them with our technology now than back in the 20s. A bolt-action rifle versus a minigun or such weapon? And their edge with poisons and chemical weapons might have some challenge with the things the governments probably have hidden away.
If they issued one big coordinated attack, using "human" allies, then maybe they could create enough chaos to severely hinder humanity. But I think if this happened we'd all descend into guerilla warfare and we would ultimately win. Isn't that why the Japanese in WW2 said that behind every blade of grass in the USA is a gun, something like that? So perhaps the fighting and mass destruction would be concentrated in coastal cities. Inland Russia, China, USA, South America, Africa... enough humanity would live to fight back.
Shoggoths would be a problem. One could probably tear apart a city but destroying the controller of the shoggoth? And with modern weapons? Shoggoth VS napalm? High explosive? And what if they have a hidden weapon, something unknown? A virus or some way to poison the oceans and waters we consume...
It's definitely a fun concept but perhaps as you said it was Deep One propaganda when they said they could just wipe us all out.
The bottom line is the Old Ones with technology vastly surpassing anything we have today, lost a war against them. Admittedly they were decadent Old Ones but still.
BAR, Thompson, and flame throwers are not a joke. And all existed in the 30's. As did grenades and gas bombs.
Huh I have been seeing something like those but I guess it is nothing. I live in innsmouth by the way.
Black Sun troopers worked for me
I pose a few thoughts. Deep ones mate with us do to our level of sentience. As for weapons, while explosives and combustion are lost the would have things akin to harpoon guns and slingers that spear fishermen use. They should have the ability to forge, if they can get near enough to open lava sources. Or just have factories, much like in Shadow Over Innsmouth.
Cthulhu comes close to conquering the earth with his Deep Ones only for Nyarlathotep to kick his ass for messing with his favorite play things.
I'm coming at this more from the Conan and a Hyborian Age perspective so fighting a deep one sword to sword seems like it'd be a nice big sort of early level boss fight.
"make a game about the war between humans and Deep Ones"
It's called X-Com 2: Terror from the Deep. ;)
This!
Video on Dreamlands Moon Frogs?
The idea of biological technology has always been so fascinating!
"If I could pronounce it right, then I would be a hybrid sending propaganda trying to convince you not to fight us." Oh, I'm on to you "Sandy" or, as those closest to you call you, "Xxvy'Qptofth?"
now you have to prove you're not a hybrid or I won't dare respond to you any more. Let's see. What's something a hybrid wouldn't know?
@@SandyofCthulhu Well, the issue is if you do that, one of you are likely deep one spies hoping to get info they wouldn't know otherwise.
I have never had a thought that Deep Ones could be basically Replicants.
He's more-or-less describing X-Com (2): Terror from the Abyss. It's basically X-COM UFO Defense with a bunch of Cthulhu art slapped on for a cash grab, but the atmosphere and lore is way better than the original because its much more consistent and grounded. "Deep Ones" are one of your primary enemies and were artificially constructed for a task and are at war with the surface humans. They capture human "stocks" to create more. Humans bodies are modified and installed with microchips and other biotech modifications. An alien fetus is attached and consumes the body as it grows eventually consuming everything... except the eyes.
The alien races use all kinds of "water" acceptable weaponry. "Lightning" guns, "sonic" weapons, gauss rifles, dart guns, psionics to distress or control enemies. Also melee, toxins, etc.
One of the crazy smart game decisions for the game is you start with guys with torpedo launchers (underwater rocket launchers). The game is brutally hard, so a few guys with a powerful weapon is super helpful. But there's a catch. The second the aliens start invading cities on land, you go into battle and realize none of your torpedo launchers work on land. So if you didn't start researching more powerful weaponry by now and replaced them, you are in for a world of hurt. You go to take a shot and then you just hear, "click."
If you want to try it, get OpenXcom. It's an open source project that lets you play both xcom, and xcom terror from the deep in much higher resolutions and modern features (also fixing game breaking bugs!). I just beat Terror From the Deep a year or two ago for the first time using that. The music (especially modder remixed orchestra versions) are __haunting__ and still make my heart rate rise just hearing them.
If a Deep One was to breed with a Serpentman, I imagine that's where the myth of the Naga or Gorgons might spring from.
Ok, so when did Cthulhu make the deep ones? He's been asleep since at least the Cretaceous.
You didn’t explain, how do they breathe?
Wait a minute, why am I watching this? I am a Deep One!
I feel the deep ones could be more dangerous if they got more creative. Like for instance they have shoggoths. Like yes they are slow on land but shoggoths fucking skitter around at the speed of a honda civic so like... Make wearable shoggoths? Like a Shoggoth suit or a Shoggoth mech that increases you speed and strength?
Plus those fuckers can make any biological organ so like... No guns? Make a portable shoggoth that shoots poison spines like a nail gun. Or one that zaps its enemies with electricity like an electric eel. Have a shoggoth that can shoot a highly pressurized stream of water or venom to slice through they're enemies from a distance.... Maybe even use one to create a possible EMP wave....
I feel like just having access to shoggoths makes you pretty OP. Not to mention all the crazy arcane abilities deep ones have access to...
8:19 ඞඞඞඞ
In your war of Deep Ones and humans, one thought I would like to add. They are not free agents with thoughts and goals of their own. They are a servitors race. They could be used as cannon fodder by list of creatures and individuals above them. This could not be a war of their own choosing.
Dagon or Mother Hydra like individual creature rebelling against the Star Spawn masters. Or Cthulhu could be ordering the war. Also who said they are monolithic in intensions. There could be factions. Complete chaos to confuse your players.
Yes, my evil mind works that way.
Also throw in human cultists on the Deep Ones side too.
I'm that evil.
One on one... molotovs or ant flame/fire based offense.
You use a really big fryer.
Grimdark 50% sent me.
I wouldn’t advocate for this, but since deep ones are amphibians, we could always cause oil spills, and they will probably die; amphibians are very sensitive to water quality.
lacking any depth, disappearing from his dimensional perception.