I could be cool to see a storage slice that loads boxes with an item and also sorts whole boxes at the same time. Ive only managed to combine two bulky build with an ugly hopper line
That is basically the only solution to having both box sorting and box loading in the same slice, because the box loader and box sorter are both very bulky systems and they need to feed into the same input. So the only way to have both is to have a bulky solution.
I was looking for a good bulk storage slice, but wasn't sure where to find one. This one using stacked cursed books is amazing and I love it. Thank you for the awesome video! The rest of the stuff is cool but probably too much for my purposes. Still, awesome job!
I'm way too dumb with redstone to fully understand these systems without a lot of time figuring them out but i really appreciate these videos explaining the individual parts of the system. I'm excited to see your full storage using these new innovations.
Okay I haven't even watched the whole video yet, but, zero ticking a couldron into a shulker box to pick it up is bananas and fantastic. You could even piston-block-conveyor it into other places in it's item form perhaps?
Interesting tech, especially the shulker box color sorter (much smaller than Optic's/Barcelona's). I think it would be worth mentioning somewhere that stacked shulkers WON'T work as stacked unstackables if you also have the emptyShulkerBoxStackAlways rule from carpet-extra turned on.
Nearly all my solo world storage comes from Cubic’s builds. He makes the tech easy to understand, which allows me to adjust the machines to fit my needs. If I could subscribe twice, I would. Cheers to you, Cubic
Love your work! I especially love the overloaded item filter, I use an inferior design all over the place to catch big stacks, I shall be moving over to this design in future! I also love the shulker contraptions for the floor, ingenious and handy! Will probably steal some of those too! :P
"we can pick them up and start crafting.... Oh my God" 13:35 lol love this. Have to say although most of this goes over my head especially at the beginning and least by the end I have a general idea of how to build whatever is shown and not just copying it without any understanding in what I did.
The item filter with the stacked non-stackable items is revolutionary. Not only does it have more capacity to handle item bursts, but it is also much more stable than the standard item filter. If one of the filters is not setup properly, it will not affect the neighboring slices in any way, unlike the standard filter.
I think gnembon changed the carpet mod in 1.21 because with the overstacked item filter, the shulkers give the comparator output of 64-stackables for me. As well as that I think the books trick is patched.
One idea i had for preparing resources for a proyect is that you can throw the items you need from the chest, and colect them from the floor, and sending it to a shulker box filler. So you can go though the storage room, throwing items in the floor, and have the shulker box with all you need ready without doing it manually. Not sure if its been done yet.
The problem with this concept is that using item scroller the player can fill shulkers with resources much faster than any box loader, making the addition of a box loader simply inefficient when the player can just move the items instantly.
I have a small doubt. The reason of putting composter on top of hopper is that it only collects the bonemeal from the composter . So how does the the hopper collect the box thats inside the composter.
currently building a system which uses your overstacked filters, learned the hard way that u cant carry those stacked books in a shulker, it will unstack them and delete the rest
It would be pretty cool if mojang added stackable shulker boxes, but under a different entity ID like empty_shulker_box. That way they don't need to restructure all the code that handles stacking
maybe some can help me here, I am currently not quite sure what the differences between the chest-haul-box and the box-display-box in either functionality and use case. One guess might be that the chest-haul-box should never be full being replaced when it fills by an empty one and the other box being ideally never empty as I would be replaced by a full one, is that correct?
These designs are awesome! However, unfortunately the neat trick with 'curse of' books do not stack in a grindstone on paper servers. Is there a way to undo this in the server settings?
When sorting shulkers, can you sort more than 16 by stacking it vertically? E.G. all shulkers that go into the "unsorted" box (shown in the first shulker sorter) get cycled into a machine below?
Curious as to why you didn't want to use the Scicraft Blitz' mass crafting system? While it is slower, it didn't seem to have any chunk boarder issues and a very easy interface for crafting mass boxes as well. Loving the videos and learning more and more about storage tech!
The chunk border alignment isn't an issue with the design, just a limitation set by how the game processes item entities. the mass crafting system in Sciblitz is a bog standard box unloading array which is only really pheasible for much larger crafting operations. This dolphin based design is much faster, smaller and easier to use for small crafting jobs.
So, for the shucker sorter. Since they can’t be automatically stacked into chests, wouldn’t it be better to just manually load the chests with shulkers anyway?
Hi cubic, i have a question, can i change the observer with a noteblock in the hybrid slice. The observer details are The last one of the observer clock chain that is powering the dropers for the shulker loader or in other words the observer looking observer used to power the droper that shoots item into the shulker in the shulker loader. I think its okay to change but i want to make sure that it okay to do so. In my testing it seems fine. But only did it for one stack of items. I think noteblock will look better and cheap : )
So i built the compact mass crafter. Very cool though not lossless sometimes items will get stuck falling from the 2nd layer of dolphins. Not a big deal but curious if you have any ideas? In any event thanks it was fun to build in survival and its very cool.
So, I've been trying to understand your videos, however, I feel that a lot of the information is flying way above my head as I do not have a proper grounding in this topic. Do you have any suggestions on where I should start?
That's why i play bedrock. We can move anything opening up or worlds to do many 1 wide tileable circuits. I've made a 1 wide tileable hopper clock moving a hopper with sticky pistons
Yes, the overstacked filter was my idea, I also popularised the use of AB tilable ss2 filters in many storage tech applications with "How to Build the Ultimate Storage" however that depends on individual interpretation.
I'm really considering using a design by you for my new storage system. But I don't use any Carpet features making some of these harder to follow to make sure I can actually use this vanilla.
They should all work in vanilla, the main issue is that handling large amounts of empty shulkers is simply more difficult in vanilla without the stackable box mechanic. However it does not affect the functionality of the designs at all. The overstacking item filter however is probably not very worthwhile to make in full vanilla.
I am a bit late but on the world download when I input items into the erganomic ui they bunch up in the dropper that inputs into the black shulker box, any ideas on what im doing wrong. I am on vanilla.
Hey CubicMetre I’m currently working on a bedrock version of the ultimate storage slice and I have a few questions Is there any way to sort box’s with the same item in every slot? Like maybe dispense box’s on a item sorter and if it can pull though items and somehow know, refill the items taken and then pick up the box? I learned earlier today while working on this that you can pickup box’s with hoppers and pistons but I’m having a hard time figuring out how to refill the box’s
Unfortunately there is know way to definitively determine if a box contains only one item type, because all external properties that you can infer about a shulker box such as it's fill level and the item in the first slot give no indication as to what items occupy most of the box. So the only way to be certain that a box contains only one item type is to fully empty the box and fill it up again, at which point you may aswell sort the items individually.
On the world download the main storage you show at 12:17, is there an issue with the item filter for the portion that goes into shulker boxes? I couldn't set the filter, but when I changed the hopper to point at the ice block (instead of down) the filter worked.
When we launch the items using a slime block, the hoppers will pull out one item entity at a time starting with the first item to be process then the second, etc... Because we dispense the items in the same order as they are collected by the hoppers they will be collected by the hopper in the slice corresponding to where they were dispensed.
Has anyone tried to make the item input on a paper/pufferfish server? I tried it but the dropper that normally gets triggered when you open the shulker box does not seem to get triggered here (it stays activated?) does anyone know how i could fix this?
I actually would prefer to use the manual skulker filler system (10:33) in a way that you can get the items (empty Shulker Boxes) and throw out the full ones. Because I would like it more to just run around in the storage and fill my Shulker up and break it with a pickaxe, than to always run to a specified spot. Because you would always have to go forward and backward and it would be kind of like more tedious and annoying than always breaking the Shulker Boxes. (my expectation would be that this system is used once ore twice and then you would never use it anymore because it is in theory a good and fun thing but if you use it longer than it would not longer be used because it is just faster to mine the Shulker per hand (In my opinion the way you run is more annoying (to the item you want than back to the shulker box instead of getting to the item and just having to place the shulker if your Inf is full and then break it ) )) The feature that would be more interesting instead of the black shulkers, in my opinion, would be a way of having a "variable" storage where you can throw out your shulkers out of your Inventory (when it gets to full) and store it in a storage that you just assigned to your self at the beginning (getting in the storage) as long as you going to need it to get all your items (my idea would be a interface at the entry of the storage with I like 3 lamps and in every big storage slice you would have instead of the black shulker fillers one of the three storage slices accessible where you can throw your stuf in and get the next stuf you need for a big Projekt and you could access the items at a fixed point int the middle of the storage ). I hope you had a lot of fun reading this XDD
to reduce lag its so the hopper only needs to check 1 slot instead of needing to check if there are any blocks on top of it wich causes more lag then just having to cjeck 1 slot
"The classic dolphin in a minecart on a waterlogged chest". Ah yes... Classic.
That has to live 1m away from a lava filled caulron for eternity
He is the Saxton Hale of technical Minecraft after all
A classic
truly
I laughed out loud
I could be cool to see a storage slice that loads boxes with an item and also sorts whole boxes at the same time. Ive only managed to combine two bulky build with an ugly hopper line
That is basically the only solution to having both box sorting and box loading in the same slice, because the box loader and box sorter are both very bulky systems and they need to feed into the same input. So the only way to have both is to have a bulky solution.
@@cubicmetreso make a non-bulky solution. you got this
I love how you present a concept, the problems that come with it, and finally a solution.
I was looking for a good bulk storage slice, but wasn't sure where to find one. This one using stacked cursed books is amazing and I love it. Thank you for the awesome video!
The rest of the stuff is cool but probably too much for my purposes. Still, awesome job!
I'm way too dumb with redstone to fully understand these systems without a lot of time figuring them out but i really appreciate these videos explaining the individual parts of the system. I'm excited to see your full storage using these new innovations.
Okay I haven't even watched the whole video yet, but, zero ticking a couldron into a shulker box to pick it up is bananas and fantastic. You could even piston-block-conveyor it into other places in it's item form perhaps?
Interesting tech, especially the shulker box color sorter (much smaller than Optic's/Barcelona's).
I think it would be worth mentioning somewhere that stacked shulkers WON'T work as stacked unstackables if you also have the emptyShulkerBoxStackAlways rule from carpet-extra turned on.
Nearly all my solo world storage comes from Cubic’s builds. He makes the tech easy to understand, which allows me to adjust the machines to fit my needs. If I could subscribe twice, I would. Cheers to you, Cubic
"We have the classic dolphin in a minecart on top of a water-logged chest"
Ah yes, the classic
I can’t wait to get back to helping design it, fantastic job Mr. Meter!
Love your work! I especially love the overloaded item filter, I use an inferior design all over the place to catch big stacks, I shall be moving over to this design in future! I also love the shulker contraptions for the floor, ingenious and handy! Will probably steal some of those too! :P
This level of knowledge of inner details and expertise to do fine works also demonstrates how redstone absolutely does not make sense at the same time
I’ve always loved messing around with Redstone since I’m a coder, but your vids are on another level! Just subscribed, keep up the awesome work!
"This is also what limits us to sorting 16 different colours of shulkerbox" 20:26 But there are only 16 colors of shulkerboxes in the game lol
"we can pick them up and start crafting.... Oh my God" 13:35 lol love this. Have to say although most of this goes over my head especially at the beginning and least by the end I have a general idea of how to build whatever is shown and not just copying it without any understanding in what I did.
i love how he comprehensibly walks you through the system and doesn't just skim over it. you don't just know what it does, you get to understand it.
This tells us that you've seen people skim over details you'd need to understand stuff before
@@pumkin610 lmao all the time unfortunately
Amazing innovations cubic! You've really grown as a channel since that first storage tech video, keep it up!
The pan to CommandLeo was actually cold. Cool video
this is a amazing project, cant wait to see it on the survival server, hopefully soon
That Curse book stacking in the grindstone glitch is so funny. I legit laughed when I saw that.
The item filter with the stacked non-stackable items is revolutionary. Not only does it have more capacity to handle item bursts, but it is also much more stable than the standard item filter. If one of the filters is not setup properly, it will not affect the neighboring slices in any way, unlike the standard filter.
I appreciate the dedication to good UI and impressive redstone 👏
That item filter is genius. Would signed copies of books work? Pretty sure
Non-enchant books are stackable
So innovative! It's a real pleasure to watch these clever and slick solutions to seemingly impossible problems.
I think gnembon changed the carpet mod in 1.21 because with the overstacked item filter, the shulkers give the comparator output of 64-stackables for me. As well as that I think the books trick is patched.
I love you presentation style. It’s very much like a designer.
Still watching but I'm mind-blown by how this makes curse of binding books useful !
The colour box sorter is quite smart =D
Bro you helped me how the five types of storage worked and I am about to create my own type of storage system
One idea i had for preparing resources for a proyect is that you can throw the items you need from the chest, and colect them from the floor, and sending it to a shulker box filler. So you can go though the storage room, throwing items in the floor, and have the shulker box with all you need ready without doing it manually. Not sure if its been done yet.
The problem with this concept is that using item scroller the player can fill shulkers with resources much faster than any box loader, making the addition of a box loader simply inefficient when the player can just move the items instantly.
Sounds similar to Etho's nexus? Doing that quickly is a challenge I think
Definitely gonna use that item filter
I still use ur ultimate storage system in my survival world
I have a small doubt. The reason of putting composter on top of hopper is that it only collects the bonemeal from the composter . So how does the the hopper collect the box thats inside the composter.
While the composter is moving it's not technically a composter and so the hopper can suck the item for a short moment
@@cubicmetre oh okay thanks
Happy New Year
omg now I go back to this video and suddenly I realize that all this was already part of the project that was the wavetech general store
currently building a system which uses your overstacked filters, learned the hard way that u cant carry those stacked books in a shulker, it will unstack them and delete the rest
5:46 i guess the cursed books don't lie about being cursed
The overstacked sort should've been a video in itself, would be a hit
can anyone tell what mod let you "drop all item in a container" or fill a container with items
As shown at 12:42, I was just a bit confused
This is part of Fallen Breath's tweaks for tweakeroo
@@cubicmetre ty at the beginning I thought it's only tweakeroo, welp now it should work
I feel so stupid when I watch these videos. I don't how you guys come up with this stuff. Kudos.
Huh. Simple, he says.
It would be pretty cool if mojang added stackable shulker boxes, but under a different entity ID like empty_shulker_box. That way they don't need to restructure all the code that handles stacking
Can't they just copy paste beehive
@@noori2105 oh yeah ofcourse
maybe some can help me here, I am currently not quite sure what the differences between the chest-haul-box and the box-display-box in either functionality and use case.
One guess might be that the chest-haul-box should never be full being replaced when it fills by an empty one and the other box being ideally never empty as I would be replaced by a full one, is that correct?
These designs are awesome! However, unfortunately the neat trick with 'curse of' books do not stack in a grindstone on paper servers. Is there a way to undo this in the server settings?
When sorting shulkers, can you sort more than 16 by stacking it vertically? E.G. all shulkers that go into the "unsorted" box (shown in the first shulker sorter) get cycled into a machine below?
it would be nice for mojang to add empty shulker stacking
Curious as to why you didn't want to use the Scicraft Blitz' mass crafting system? While it is slower, it didn't seem to have any chunk boarder issues and a very easy interface for crafting mass boxes as well. Loving the videos and learning more and more about storage tech!
The chunk border alignment isn't an issue with the design, just a limitation set by how the game processes item entities. the mass crafting system in Sciblitz is a bog standard box unloading array which is only really pheasible for much larger crafting operations. This dolphin based design is much faster, smaller and easier to use for small crafting jobs.
*"Simple* Storage Innovations"
*Literally 5 seconds into the video:* An entire wall of pistons, hoppers, shulker boxes, A/B tiling, and minecraft physics exploits.
Genius hours, apparently
The dream storage system
Have you checked out pallapalla's storage tech? That has always been the gold standard for storage tech for me.
At 20:57,
what if you leave a 2 block gap? one block to each side from the chunkborder?
to reduce the risk of the shulkers flying to the wrong chunk?
How does the slice detect when the shoulder box is full in order to break it, store it and replace it?
new m3 vid omg
So, for the shucker sorter. Since they can’t be automatically stacked into chests, wouldn’t it be better to just manually load the chests with shulkers
anyway?
which version is wavetech on? I'd love to build this on our 1.18 world, this is all so cool!
Currently the SMP is in 1.17 as we need to do some preparation before updating, but we are designing and building the main storage in 1.18
great, we will surely be taking inspiration from these in our storage system!
I'd love to be able to do what you're capable of creating.. :D
do we have a fix for the overstacked filter in 1.21 or I should go back to another filter setup?
This is amazing, I wonder where do you learn all this? Or is it just trial and error?
Scientific Method and Research my friend
Hi cubic, i have a question, can i change the observer with a noteblock in the hybrid slice. The observer details are
The last one of the observer clock chain that is powering the dropers for the shulker loader or in other words the observer looking observer used to power the droper that shoots item into the shulker in the shulker loader.
I think its okay to change but i want to make sure that it okay to do so.
In my testing it seems fine. But only did it for one stack of items.
I think noteblock will look better and cheap : )
So i built the compact mass crafter. Very cool though not lossless sometimes items will get stuck falling from the 2nd layer of dolphins. Not a big deal but curious if you have any ideas? In any event thanks it was fun to build in survival and its very cool.
I literally JUST noticed that this mans skin is Saxton Hale
Thank you for an amazing video as always! What mod are you using for the "Auto clean container" and "Auto fill container" functionality?
Fallen's tweakermore, the link is in the description.
@@cubicmetre Thanks a lot!
So, I've been trying to understand your videos, however, I feel that a lot of the information is flying way above my head as I do not have a proper grounding in this topic. Do you have any suggestions on where I should start?
When I hear the word "Simple" from technical minecraft TH-camrs, I become terrified wondering what redstone monstrosity they've created.
That's why i play bedrock. We can move anything opening up or worlds to do many 1 wide tileable circuits. I've made a 1 wide tileable hopper clock moving a hopper with sticky pistons
Just some "Simple innovations". Yes, very simple indeed
Does the subchunk boundary have any impact on the item pickup order?
Yes
Whenever he says something is simple I laugh
Can u make a tour on wavetech server?
"... this relatively simple design." - cubicmetre, 2022
These systems are so excessive and I love it.
Couldn't you use a open trap door to prevent the items from crossing the chunk border?
interesting
Man cannot wait the build 10 hours of work why did I choose to do this I thought it would be easy but it's complex
Hey Cubicmetre! Did you design the low threshold item filter? I want to make sure I credit the right person/people.
Yes, the overstacked filter was my idea, I also popularised the use of AB tilable ss2 filters in many storage tech applications with "How to Build the Ultimate Storage" however that depends on individual interpretation.
will the shulker box distribution break if I use mod that stacks shulker boxes like normal items
I'm really considering using a design by you for my new storage system. But I don't use any Carpet features making some of these harder to follow to make sure I can actually use this vanilla.
They should all work in vanilla, the main issue is that handling large amounts of empty shulkers is simply more difficult in vanilla without the stackable box mechanic. However it does not affect the functionality of the designs at all. The overstacking item filter however is probably not very worthwhile to make in full vanilla.
I am a bit late but on the world download when I input items into the erganomic ui they bunch up in the dropper that inputs into the black shulker box, any ideas on what im doing wrong. I am on vanilla.
Hey CubicMetre I’m currently working on a bedrock version of the ultimate storage slice and I have a few questions
Is there any way to sort box’s with the same item in every slot? Like maybe dispense box’s on a item sorter and if it can pull though items and somehow know, refill the items taken and then pick up the box? I learned earlier today while working on this that you can pickup box’s with hoppers and pistons but I’m having a hard time figuring out how to refill the box’s
Unfortunately there is know way to definitively determine if a box contains only one item type, because all external properties that you can infer about a shulker box such as it's fill level and the item in the first slot give no indication as to what items occupy most of the box. So the only way to be certain that a box contains only one item type is to fully empty the box and fill it up again, at which point you may aswell sort the items individually.
On the world download the main storage you show at 12:17, is there an issue with the item filter for the portion that goes into shulker boxes? I couldn't set the filter, but when I changed the hopper to point at the ice block (instead of down) the filter worked.
It's because those were 2x speed filters that need to be prefilled as per my instructions when I introduced the overstacked filter.
Thank you for the response! I had only watched like 20 times and hadn't caught that yet ;) I got it now, this is just amazing.
is it possible to build this without stacked unstakables?
This is genius
Ahh yes "Simple" innovations
I can use some of this, but not the sorting system in vanilla.
The other atvangae of using the composter, is it's cheeper.
Could u make a war machine?
where can I find the new design of the storage slice?
Could I ask what addons or resource pack your using to see the interior of the shulkers?
It is an option in tweakeroo (Tweaks -> tweakShulkerBoxDisplay)
hi cubimetre on what minecraft launcher are u playing?
How do the shulker boxes get back to the correct slice in the color sorter?
When we launch the items using a slime block, the hoppers will pull out one item entity at a time starting with the first item to be process then the second, etc... Because we dispense the items in the same order as they are collected by the hoppers they will be collected by the hopper in the slice corresponding to where they were dispensed.
What mods do you use?
Do you think you could make a tutorial on how to build the full system and how to use it?
Haven't watched the vid yet but I've been working on an item entity storage system with blue ice and slime
And I've been thinking of one that just filters different items in and out of a chest with item entities for space
WAIT I see a piston pushing a dispenser in the shulker box display system. Does this work in vanilla?
That is a much older design that needed MTE to work, it was superceded by new designs that did not require any tile entities to be moved.
Has anyone tried to make the item input on a paper/pufferfish server? I tried it but the dropper that normally gets triggered when you open the shulker box does not seem to get triggered here (it stays activated?) does anyone know how i could fix this?
the world download doesnt work for me could anyone help me
simple is relative
When I tested this in the world download it seemed to be broke but that could entirely be my fault any suggestions?
15:00 but i still dont get it.. how tf u crafting? Is that mod or some?
I actually would prefer to use the manual skulker filler system (10:33) in a way that you can get the items (empty Shulker Boxes) and throw out the full ones. Because I would like it more to just run around in the storage and fill my Shulker up and break it with a pickaxe, than to always run to a specified spot. Because you would always have to go forward and backward and it would be kind of like more tedious and annoying than always breaking the Shulker Boxes. (my expectation would be that this system is used once ore twice and then you would never use it anymore because it is in theory a good and fun thing but if you use it longer than it would not longer be used because it is just faster to mine the Shulker per hand (In my opinion the way you run is more annoying (to the item you want than back to the shulker box instead of getting to the item and just having to place the shulker if your Inf is full and then break it ) )) The feature that would be more interesting instead of the black shulkers, in my opinion, would be a way of having a "variable" storage where you can throw out your shulkers out of your Inventory (when it gets to full) and store it in a storage that you just assigned to your self at the beginning (getting in the storage) as long as you going to need it to get all your items (my idea would be a interface at the entry of the storage with I like 3 lamps and in every big storage slice you would have instead of the black shulker fillers one of the three storage slices accessible where you can throw your stuf in and get the next stuf you need for a big Projekt and you could access the items at a fixed point int the middle of the storage ). I hope you had a lot of fun reading this XDD
What do the composts do when you put them on hoppers, what is the purpose
to reduce lag its so the hopper only needs to check 1 slot instead of needing to check if there are any blocks on top of it wich causes more lag then just having to cjeck 1 slot