@@thebluemorpho2962no they don’t, insomniacs universe is just a contract between Sony and Marvel Games, they don’t own anything outside of the film rights as Disney and marvel own everything else but Spider-Man’s film rights.
@@thebluemorpho2962Iron Boy Jr as you and others insist to call him, eventhough his movies are about him finding his own identity and character as a superhero and as a person, is forced by Sony’s contract mandated “at least one Avenger appearance in each solo” to have said heroes be so integral to the movies. Stop with the Sony glazing, they gave you nothing but shit a.k.a Madame Web, Morbius, (more than likely) Kraven, need I go on?
@@CostroisMitrois "Nothing but shit" NWH, your beloved MCU Spidey, the Spiderverse movies. They were all made by Sony. And Spider-man has never been about finding individuality, because his core character is inherently independent, hence why he's barely ever a part of a team in the comics. You can't justify bad writing and poor adaptation by saying that it was intended.
@@andraw4002i completely agree, but fyi actually in the mcu movies, marvel is allowed to use spidey at THEIR disposal. Sony cant do anything about it (its supposedly in the contract between disney/marvel and sony)
It's almost like Sony doesn't realize that Marvel's idea for MCU Spider-Man 4 will make just as much, if not more money than what Sony is planning. Depending on how Daredevil Born Again is going to end its first season, having it be a segway into MCU Spider-Man 4 still makes perfect sense. If Kingpin becomes mayor of New York and initiates Devil's Reign where he outlaws superheroes that still puts him in direct conflict with Spider-Man before he's even shown on screen. Repeating No Way Home is a cheap idea.
indeed, however look at the timing of the movie if they are planning the movie in battle world that would mean its after avengers 4, meaning theres no planet or universe, sooo its not lo outlandish to do that, but i agree you need more projects in between so they dont just burn the cartridges of the spidermen
Sony too arrogant and self centered to let anyone else make what they own a success. If they're not using their (sony's) ideas then it's gonna get pushed aside. Marvel should have never given sony spider-man.
At this point Marvel needs to get the Spider-Man rights back. Think about it! They way it’s looking, the movies they are making now aside from the animation, those are movies I actually despise more than Disney
Yeah no SCREW SONY, the entire ending of NWH established Spider-Man returning to his street level roots, doing another multiverse movie will completely ruin that, just like how they ruined his character development from Homecoming with Infinity War. I think we as the fans need to unite and go against Sony because let's be real, this is a really, really god awful idea, and i really hope Tom Holland refuses of being part of the movie considering he said that he will only do it if the script gives justice to the character.
Tom holland said for 2 week ago that he is tired and stressed out because off sony and mcu cant agree and that fans expect every movie to be endgame level. He start to hate spidermam because off it and i dont blame him
@@carinahatlevoll153 Well maybe sony should stop being arrogant and thinking their way of handling spider-man is absolute because it's not. Sony's mishandling of the web head is the reason spidey has been in the MCU for almost 10 years now.
sony just wants money not knowing that what marvel is trying to do will bring it to them instead of another multiverse story which would do the opposite
Here’s my prediction,after Secret Wars once everything is rebooted we will a comic accurate spider man setting in the MCU,which means a Harry Osborn,Norman Osborn,Venom,Mary Jane Watson,Gwen Stacy,Kraven,Oscorpe and many more will exist in the Mcu. And Marvel can introduce Miles Morales and Tom Holland can play the mentor role.
Only listen to 90 seconds it's one of the few times I agree with disney. These multi verse things are being over used and over played. Let myles morals keep the multi verse let the live action spider expand to being something different. That's just my opinion.
I might get hate for saying this but I feel like the multiverse saga is the most rushed saga in marvel the thought that there is gonna be another endgame for the avengers in 3 years feels like it’s happening too fast without a proper build up plus Toms Spider-Man 4 should’ve been about the aftermath of NWH as a street level film I wish that would happen
Assuming they can meet the deadlines, Secret Wars would arrive in 2027, 8 years after Endgame. For me, that's more than enough time between the biggest crossovers in each saga. The problem is that this saga wasn't well-structured at all.
I don't think you'd get hate cause we probably all feel the same. And I heard it WAS actually rushed because Bob Chapek forced Marvel to pump out so much content. And they were convinced some bad projects would be a success like Quantumania.
Ur take is 100 💯 correct we all feel the same way but den this all go back to the late 90s when marvel went bankrupt nd had to give away characters when honestly they could’ve kept spider man nd hulk
I feel like Spider-Man 4 should've dropped this year or next year the latest. The aftermath of no way home but I would like to see the movie be the aftermath of Daredevil BA if the Devil's Reign comes into play by the end of season 1.
Imagine Spider-Man 4 being like The Batman where since Peter doesn't have any friends or family left, he starts to foster an unhealthy obsession with his Spider-Man persona since it's all he has. That paired with the symbiote suit, a dark theme/plot, AND a possible teamup with Daredevil to fight Kingpin would have been amazing, could have been one of, if not, THE best Spider-Man movie brought to the big screen.
Nope, not wanting to see the spidermen together again. Not because I didn't like it in NWH, quite the opposite. That was... chef's kiss! Leave it at that before messing it up. Like Endgame, NWH makes an excellent conclusion (for the senior two characters). Also - did Disney for once just make a sensible suggestion for S4? Not that you cannot ruin a good premise but still, sounds much better than the Sony approach.
I still highly doubt Sony's going to get what they want here unless they've asked Tobey and Andrew to come back already. And considering how their behaving that's likely not the case, they can demand this all they want but both actors still need to say yes first and they have no obligation too.
Or just buy all of Sony, this is the only time I support Disney assimilating something to itself, after buying Sony Put the Deadpool, No Way Home or the Loki Production team incharge of the Sony Spiderman Universe and Spiderman as a whole
Marvel needs the rights back, not only to can the rest of those shitty villain spin offs that NOBODY asked for, but also to let Spider-Man 4 be, you know, actually good!
Spider-Man characters deserve their own projects, but not independent of Spider-Man. This way Morbius could later become a member of the Midnight Sons. Maybe a crossover with Blade, who knows? There's no need for a solo movie for the characters of Madame Web and Kraven, maybe a mini-series at most.
eww, more spidy crossovbers? Once was special, twice is just milking it. All of us are tired of multiverse at this point. Didn't deadpool just say it's getting old? Also if they keep doing crossovers, it won't be special anymore. Instead why not let amazing spiderman have his 3rd movie? They don't need to crossover, andrew can star in his own movie and fans will be happy. Toby can star in his own movie and fans will be happy. Don't need crossovers.
Marvel really try to make a great Spider-Man story but Sony gets in the way 😒😒😒. Spider-Man 4 should be a street level movie. I dont trust Sony after Madame Web and Morbius (well the Spiderverse movies are an exception)
Can we please just get the Spider-Man rights away from Sony already? Or, maybe, dump Amy Pascal? I feel like most of Sony’s decisions and franchises have been pretty meh during her tenure.
Let Sony learn the hard way. Deadpool 4 is not coming out anytime soon because you cannot do a trick twice. Your trick must always be better than the last one to attract people.
We need something like this in the MCU. They should get a new actor to play a different Osborn who’s the Norman of the prime universe. This one never becomes any goblin but instead becomes Iron Patriot. Peter learns that this Norman is just as bad as the green goblin but has everyone else fooled with his hero act and Peter doesn’t casually reveal his identity like he’s always done in the other movies due to him learning his lesson in far from home and no way home. Norman forms the dark avengers and they eventually fight the real avengers. The movie after that can be a Spider-Man movie about how Peter finally beats Norman and exposes his evil to everyone. I think this is perfect because it would give us something different with Norman Osborn in movies, give an opportunity for a movie where Peter has no mentors no team ups and it’s just him and Spider-Man characters which is something we’ve all wanted in the MCU, and it would be the perfect way to show how Peter has grown into a capable and independent hero which is what Far From Home meant to do because Peter would be fighting someone who mirrors Tony Stark but is pure evil and because Osborn is actually an Avengers level threat. Norman’s Goblin Nation and conquest of Asgard are good examples of how powerful he is
No, just because one 4th movie fumbled, doesn’t mean Marvel should call it quits, specially when a character is worthy of a double trilogy like Spider-Man
Sony have ruined already ruined Spiderman when he was added to the mcu.Homecoming was Mediocre and Fra From Home was just bad and the last one was the only Spiderman movie with Tom Holland which was good
No, sony ruined spider-man when they meddled with sam raimi's spider-man 3 and the existence of the amazing spider-man duology. Spider-man being in the MCU is the fault of sony being out of touch and not knowing how to handle the marvel character with no real/clear direction.
Can’t Marvel just sue Sony for the rights or buy them!? The character clearly belongs to Marvel! We want to see Peter in the MCU and becoming a main avenger, than some other irrelevant characters!!!! As long as he’s in Sony, he’ll just continue suffering!
Marvel sold rights to spiderman to Sony during hard times. There is nothing they can do, they are lucky that Sony let them use Spiderman for the MCU *cough* obviously so Sony takes advantage of Marvel brand building in the bigger MCU movies.
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 But we want to see Spider-Man in the MCU more 😭 And Sony are the party poopers in this case. Maybe they can reach an agreement that 60% out of all Spider-Man money that Marvel makes would be to Sony, after all Spider-Man is more successful in the MCU and has more odds of making more money. Sony are bad at it and are just like Spider-Man comic book writers that only want him to suffer unreasonably 😑
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 well as of this point sony doesn't deserve spider-man anymore. They have ruined this IP even since 2007's spider-man 3 by sam raimi when they meddled with the production. Sony's ignorance and idiocy is the reason they're letting marvel use their character after selling it off long ago.
@@groggold the animation division is different from the main movie division. Plus sony didn't meddle with those movies. Although the only good movie is into the spiderverse.
I think Marvel is planning to use Secret Wars as a sort of “switch” just like it kind of did in the conics. So it would make sense to give sony what they want now and also show them what success the original idea of spiderman 4 with The Fantastic 4 First steps movie. Basically nothing before secret wars really matters but they are also showing a new approach to prove that spiderman going back to his roots will sell amazing as well.
What do you guys think about this idea?: Make Holland Spiderman movie where he is a street level hero, fighting Kingpin etc. Then make SpidermEn movie whit Toby and Andrew working together(without Holland). Have two Spiderman movies, one street level and one multiverse.
easy Sam Raimi he understood who Peter Parker is and the struggles he goes through as Spider-man thats why spider-man 2 is one of the best spider-man movies ever
Sony is making such a big mistake with this. They have the ability to tell one of the greatest stories for Spider-Man and they’re just effing it up because they seen $$$$$$. Having Moreland as the villains by Tom Holland Spider-Man is gonna lose so hard so fast he doesn’t have experience beating the entire sinister six which Moreland is like 10 times harder than.
It makes me sad cuz I do think Tom Holland is the best actor that’s played Spider-Man but lots of people don’t like him purely for reasons outside of his portrayal. Like the fact that he has rdj in the first one and Toby and Andrew in the third. Tom can easily carry a movie on his own but they have to give him that chance with Spider-Man 4. Make it a solo spidy movie where he gets the symbiote and fight kingpin or someone then at the end he still has the black suit and goes to battle world then in the 5th movie he has to deal with the symbiote and venom. Tom holland deserves more respect for his portrayal of Peter but he won’t get it till Sony trust him with a solo movie
If Null is brought into Spider-Man 4 or at least at the post credits it might work out since The Sentry is being brought into The Thunderbolts. Maybe we'd get The Sentry Vs Null like in the comics eh?
They really think we want to see another team up with the 3 main movie spider men AGAIN? What made it so hype the first time is because it had never happened before and we got to see Andrew’s spider man and Toney’s spider man return to the big screen after many years, it won’t hit the same since they’ve already came back, Sony really sucks and just needs to let Marvel do all the heavy lifting since they’re so incompetent at making a decent story.
We all know how Sony has become pathetic now 😂😂😂 Marvel has more experience and knows that their audience wants, and that's why its such a successful franchise ❤
Not just Sony is ruining Spiderman.Also Marvel.They're already ruining him in the comics.But if this multiverse movie could bring back Andrew's Spiderman to replace Tom Holland's trash Spiderman.I would be extremely happy.
In the thumbnail they said we hate the fans it means that he fans they're hating on is the twitter/tiktok fans because they called the mcu spiderman thrash meanwhile the true sony spider man fans liked it
Toby and Andrew should do their own Sony spiderverse and Disney should continue Tom holland’s story, maybe they could use Toby and Andrew to actually clean up the Sonyverse with venom, morbius, and now madam web
We really need a solo college tom hallond spider man series I want that because Andrew and tobey aren't getting any younger i don't wanna a story being repeated 3 times
Meh, people also assumed Avatar 2 would tank. And it made over 1 billion. And even more people assumed One piece live action would fail. And it's beloved Just wait and see what happens.
Another issue, I hear the Marvel pitch and I get somewhat of a clear idea of what that could be, I hear Sony's and I hear cool ideas and a lot of potential but there's so many ways of doing it which means so many ways of screwing it up
Well regardless of what happens I'd imagine once they agree on the story Feige will be left to his own devices without Sony's meddling. Because even their not stupid enough to try to dictate what Feige does in making the movie, they know it'll piss him off.
I think they could make the multiverse movie work, but there should still be a Peter rebuilding his life movie eventually, either that or just please leave Peter alone in the multiverse crap 😭
Both ideas could have had a different movie tho I think first marvel’s story should be used and in that movie they can show that spider man made another mistake that brought him back to square zero and being troubled Peter Parker would look up the the more experienced spider men and then the first movie ends and then Sony can do their thing
Once a film opens the multiverse Pandora’s box, it’s impossible for the studio to scale back. Flash was doomed from the start even if DCCU continued on
Sony is so pathetic man let Marvel do everything and you can collect the box office money
You do know Sony makes awesome spidey games and marvel ruins iron boy jr aka Tom Holland
@@thebluemorpho2962no they don’t, insomniacs universe is just a contract between Sony and Marvel Games, they don’t own anything outside of the film rights as Disney and marvel own everything else but Spider-Man’s film rights.
@@thebluemorpho2962Iron Boy Jr as you and others insist to call him, eventhough his movies are about him finding his own identity and character as a superhero and as a person, is forced by Sony’s contract mandated “at least one Avenger appearance in each solo” to have said heroes be so integral to the movies. Stop with the Sony glazing, they gave you nothing but shit a.k.a Madame Web, Morbius, (more than likely) Kraven, need I go on?
@@CostroisMitrois "Nothing but shit" NWH, your beloved MCU Spidey, the Spiderverse movies. They were all made by Sony. And Spider-man has never been about finding individuality, because his core character is inherently independent, hence why he's barely ever a part of a team in the comics. You can't justify bad writing and poor adaptation by saying that it was intended.
@@andraw4002i completely agree, but fyi actually in the mcu movies, marvel is allowed to use spidey at THEIR disposal. Sony cant do anything about it (its supposedly in the contract between disney/marvel and sony)
damn did marvel really try to tell a good story for once
Lol I thought the same thing.
They are finally going to make movies we want, but dumb Sony gets in the way
Doubtful considering the slop they've been pushing for the past few years.
Did you mean Sony? Marvel MCU have many good and great story
@@muhammadmufly23no because Marvel really wanted to make a Grounded Spider-Man movie but Sony insisted, they wanted a no way home 2.0
Dude,Sony is like that one annoying little cousin😭😭😭
Fr like just for once listen to the people goddamn
at this point they both are the annoying cousin
FR
Sony should have their own variant of Spiderman for their villain universe or whatever and leave MCU Spiderman's story to Disney
They should have done it that way, but I doubt they will continue with that universe after Kraven.
@@mrheadcannonI forgot to check, how did Kraven do?
It's almost like Sony doesn't realize that Marvel's idea for MCU Spider-Man 4 will make just as much, if not more money than what Sony is planning. Depending on how Daredevil Born Again is going to end its first season, having it be a segway into MCU Spider-Man 4 still makes perfect sense. If Kingpin becomes mayor of New York and initiates Devil's Reign where he outlaws superheroes that still puts him in direct conflict with Spider-Man before he's even shown on screen. Repeating No Way Home is a cheap idea.
indeed, however look at the timing of the movie if they are planning the movie in battle world that would mean its after avengers 4, meaning theres no planet or universe, sooo its not lo outlandish to do that, but i agree you need more projects in between so they dont just burn the cartridges of the spidermen
Sony too arrogant and self centered to let anyone else make what they own a success. If they're not using their (sony's) ideas then it's gonna get pushed aside. Marvel should have never given sony spider-man.
Sony mostly makes good devices but is so stupid when it comes to movies
What good devices does Sony make bruh
@@Ahmed-ku9yhHeadphones, speakers, cameras...you know it
@@Ahmed-ku9yhPlayStation
@@joshlaverick2002thats one, their gear sucks tho
@@Ahmed-ku9yh tv
the one time that marvel comes up with a good story, it gets thrown out by sony and replaced by a film that probably sucks
Sony in games: 🗿
Sony in movies: 🤡
Spiderverse?
@TVmanEdits15 it's a movie
Sony in animated movies: 🚬
At this point Marvel needs to get the Spider-Man rights back. Think about it! They way it’s looking, the movies they are making now aside from the animation, those are movies I actually despise more than Disney
But then we wouldn’t get spider man beyond the spider verse
@@theenvisionment i meant if Disney bought Sony like they did Fox, they can still make spider verse
Well that does make sense too
No they don't I don't need a live action Paul thank you very much
@@Drums_of_Liberation I never asked for a live action Paul. No one has.
Yeah no SCREW SONY, the entire ending of NWH established Spider-Man returning to his street level roots, doing another multiverse movie will completely ruin that, just like how they ruined his character development from Homecoming with Infinity War. I think we as the fans need to unite and go against Sony because let's be real, this is a really, really god awful idea, and i really hope Tom Holland refuses of being part of the movie considering he said that he will only do it if the script gives justice to the character.
Tom holland said for 2 week ago that he is tired and stressed out because off sony and mcu cant agree and that fans expect every movie to be endgame level. He start to hate spidermam because off it and i dont blame him
@@carinahatlevoll153 Well maybe sony should stop being arrogant and thinking their way of handling spider-man is absolute because it's not. Sony's mishandling of the web head is the reason spidey has been in the MCU for almost 10 years now.
marvel fans should protest Sony to stop this disaster of a movie
sony just wants money not knowing that what marvel is trying to do will bring it to them instead of another multiverse story which would do the opposite
Here’s my prediction,after Secret Wars once everything is rebooted we will a comic accurate spider man setting in the MCU,which means a Harry Osborn,Norman Osborn,Venom,Mary Jane Watson,Gwen Stacy,Kraven,Oscorpe and many more will exist in the Mcu. And Marvel can introduce Miles Morales and Tom Holland can play the mentor role.
Sony : we hate fans and we appreciate ourselves 😊😊😊❤
Only listen to 90 seconds it's one of the few times I agree with disney. These multi verse things are being over used and over played. Let myles morals keep the multi verse let the live action spider expand to being something different. That's just my opinion.
I might get hate for saying this but I feel like the multiverse saga is the most rushed saga in marvel the thought that there is gonna be another endgame for the avengers in 3 years feels like it’s happening too fast without a proper build up plus Toms Spider-Man 4 should’ve been about the aftermath of NWH as a street level film I wish that would happen
Assuming they can meet the deadlines, Secret Wars would arrive in 2027, 8 years after Endgame. For me, that's more than enough time between the biggest crossovers in each saga. The problem is that this saga wasn't well-structured at all.
I don't think you'd get hate cause we probably all feel the same. And I heard it WAS actually rushed because Bob Chapek forced Marvel to pump out so much content. And they were convinced some bad projects would be a success like Quantumania.
No one will hate you bro
Ur take is 100 💯 correct we all feel the same way but den this all go back to the late 90s when marvel went bankrupt nd had to give away characters when honestly they could’ve kept spider man nd hulk
I feel like Spider-Man 4 should've dropped this year or next year the latest. The aftermath of no way home but I would like to see the movie be the aftermath of Daredevil BA if the Devil's Reign comes into play by the end of season 1.
Imagine Spider-Man 4 being like The Batman where since Peter doesn't have any friends or family left, he starts to foster an unhealthy obsession with his Spider-Man persona since it's all he has. That paired with the symbiote suit, a dark theme/plot, AND a possible teamup with Daredevil to fight Kingpin would have been amazing, could have been one of, if not, THE best Spider-Man movie brought to the big screen.
Nope, not wanting to see the spidermen together again. Not because I didn't like it in NWH, quite the opposite. That was... chef's kiss! Leave it at that before messing it up. Like Endgame, NWH makes an excellent conclusion (for the senior two characters).
Also - did Disney for once just make a sensible suggestion for S4? Not that you cannot ruin a good premise but still, sounds much better than the Sony approach.
seriously.. they should've let us viewers vote.
I still highly doubt Sony's going to get what they want here unless they've asked Tobey and Andrew to come back already. And considering how their behaving that's likely not the case, they can demand this all they want but both actors still need to say yes first and they have no obligation too.
I like how the thumbnail states the "Sony hates the Fans"
And you liked that post!!😂
I wanted to get a Deadpool and Wolverine Style of Spider Man and Daredevil, not Another Multiverse Story!
The only way to solve this is Disney has to purchase Spider-Man movie rights from Sony immediately with tons of money.
Or just buy all of Sony, this is the only time I support Disney assimilating something to itself, after buying Sony Put the Deadpool, No Way Home or the Loki Production team incharge of the Sony Spiderman Universe and Spiderman as a whole
Marvel needs the rights back, not only to can the rest of those shitty villain spin offs that NOBODY asked for, but also to let Spider-Man 4 be, you know, actually good!
Spider-Man characters deserve their own projects, but not independent of Spider-Man. This way Morbius could later become a member of the Midnight Sons. Maybe a crossover with Blade, who knows? There's no need for a solo movie for the characters of Madame Web and Kraven, maybe a mini-series at most.
0:51 It's even likely that they do it to include Morbius, Venom and Madame Web and more of their trash universe.
The only close to good thing about that verse is Venom
Wow, and Sony didn't notice the unsatisfaction of the fans? The people that give them money?
Sony doesn't care about what the fans want. They're too selfish for that.
eww, more spidy crossovbers? Once was special, twice is just milking it. All of us are tired of multiverse at this point. Didn't deadpool just say it's getting old? Also if they keep doing crossovers, it won't be special anymore. Instead why not let amazing spiderman have his 3rd movie? They don't need to crossover, andrew can star in his own movie and fans will be happy. Toby can star in his own movie and fans will be happy. Don't need crossovers.
Marvel really try to make a great Spider-Man story but Sony gets in the way 😒😒😒. Spider-Man 4 should be a street level movie. I dont trust Sony after Madame Web and Morbius (well the Spiderverse movies are an exception)
Can we please just get the Spider-Man rights away from Sony already? Or, maybe, dump Amy Pascal? I feel like most of Sony’s decisions and franchises have been pretty meh during her tenure.
Even if Sony won I don't think Andrew or Tobey would like to return as they would want their characters in a good place
Make 4 more grounded and 5 can be more intense. Like spider man 2 and 3 in the original spider man.
Let Sony learn the hard way. Deadpool 4 is not coming out anytime soon because you cannot do a trick twice. Your trick must always be better than the last one to attract people.
I know sony needs to just listen for once
Sony: "Fans want more multiverse. We got it."
Yeah marvel really needs the spider man rights back
We need something like this in the MCU. They should get a new actor to play a different Osborn who’s the Norman of the prime universe. This one never becomes any goblin but instead becomes Iron Patriot. Peter learns that this Norman is just as bad as the green goblin but has everyone else fooled with his hero act and Peter doesn’t casually reveal his identity like he’s always done in the other movies due to him learning his lesson in far from home and no way home. Norman forms the dark avengers and they eventually fight the real avengers. The movie after that can be a Spider-Man movie about how Peter finally beats Norman and exposes his evil to everyone. I think this is perfect because it would give us something different with Norman Osborn in movies, give an opportunity for a movie where Peter has no mentors no team ups and it’s just him and Spider-Man characters which is something we’ve all wanted in the MCU, and it would be the perfect way to show how Peter has grown into a capable and independent hero which is what Far From Home meant to do because Peter would be fighting someone who mirrors Tony Stark but is pure evil and because Osborn is actually an Avengers level threat. Norman’s Goblin Nation and conquest of Asgard are good examples of how powerful he is
MCU Spider-Man should be left a Trilogy. Look what they did to Thor 4.
No, just because one 4th movie fumbled, doesn’t mean Marvel should call it quits, specially when a character is worthy of a double trilogy like Spider-Man
Spider man is not bloody Thor
I wanna se spiderman with his ultimate spider man team like with nova iron fist tiger girl and powerman
Thor 4 was still better than Antman 3.
@@shinndig1293 comparing shit to shit 🤣🤣
PLEASE LET DAREDEVIL AND SPIDER-MAN TEAM UP!!!
More Spider-Man content please
I'm on team marvel
Sony have ruined already ruined Spiderman when he was added to the mcu.Homecoming was Mediocre and Fra From Home was just bad and the last one was the only Spiderman movie with Tom Holland which was good
No, sony ruined spider-man when they meddled with sam raimi's spider-man 3 and the existence of the amazing spider-man duology. Spider-man being in the MCU is the fault of sony being out of touch and not knowing how to handle the marvel character with no real/clear direction.
Can’t Marvel just sue Sony for the rights or buy them!? The character clearly belongs to Marvel! We want to see Peter in the MCU and becoming a main avenger, than some other irrelevant characters!!!! As long as he’s in Sony, he’ll just continue suffering!
Marvel sold rights to spiderman to Sony during hard times. There is nothing they can do, they are lucky that Sony let them use Spiderman for the MCU *cough* obviously so Sony takes advantage of Marvel brand building in the bigger MCU movies.
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 But we want to see Spider-Man in the MCU more 😭 And Sony are the party poopers in this case. Maybe they can reach an agreement that 60% out of all Spider-Man money that Marvel makes would be to Sony, after all Spider-Man is more successful in the MCU and has more odds of making more money. Sony are bad at it and are just like Spider-Man comic book writers that only want him to suffer unreasonably 😑
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 well as of this point sony doesn't deserve spider-man anymore. They have ruined this IP even since 2007's spider-man 3 by sam raimi when they meddled with the production. Sony's ignorance and idiocy is the reason they're letting marvel use their character after selling it off long ago.
@@AutZentus spiderverse
@@groggold the animation division is different from the main movie division. Plus sony didn't meddle with those movies. Although the only good movie is into the spiderverse.
Sony ruined AVENGERS DOOMSDAY.😂😂
Why does Sony need the spider man film rights for when they could make more money by selling the PlayStation
Damn, they really did pick the worse option
If Sony wants a multiverse Spider Man story, stick with into the spider verse franchise (Miles Morales)
I think Marvel is planning to use Secret Wars as a sort of “switch” just like it kind of did in the conics. So it would make sense to give sony what they want now and also show them what success the original idea of spiderman 4 with The Fantastic 4 First steps movie. Basically nothing before secret wars really matters but they are also showing a new approach to prove that spiderman going back to his roots will sell amazing as well.
What do you guys think about this idea?: Make Holland Spiderman movie where he is a street level hero, fighting Kingpin etc. Then make SpidermEn movie whit Toby and Andrew working together(without Holland). Have two Spiderman movies, one street level and one multiverse.
Who does Spider-Man better? Jon Watts or Sam Raimi?
easy Sam Raimi he understood who Peter Parker is and the struggles he goes through as Spider-man thats why spider-man 2 is one of the best spider-man movies ever
MCU spiderman movies are shot like car insurance commercials
Tom is the most comic accurate peter parker imo (not the iron man influence tho)@@jcasali3391
Sam raimi has better cinematography but John watts understood peter more
@@chrispeart1394🙄
Sony is making such a big mistake with this. They have the ability to tell one of the greatest stories for Spider-Man and they’re just effing it up because they seen $$$$$$. Having Moreland as the villains by Tom Holland Spider-Man is gonna lose so hard so fast he doesn’t have experience beating the entire sinister six which Moreland is like 10 times harder than.
Sony so stupid, hope it will change... Come on marvel don't let sony ruin mcu spiderman
It makes me sad cuz I do think Tom Holland is the best actor that’s played Spider-Man but lots of people don’t like him purely for reasons outside of his portrayal. Like the fact that he has rdj in the first one and Toby and Andrew in the third. Tom can easily carry a movie on his own but they have to give him that chance with Spider-Man 4. Make it a solo spidy movie where he gets the symbiote and fight kingpin or someone then at the end he still has the black suit and goes to battle world then in the 5th movie he has to deal with the symbiote and venom. Tom holland deserves more respect for his portrayal of Peter but he won’t get it till Sony trust him with a solo movie
Its actuslly the opposite . Sony esnts ground the mcu wants to finish the story off on battle world before they go grounded .
If Null is brought into Spider-Man 4 or at least at the post credits it might work out since The Sentry is being brought into The Thunderbolts. Maybe we'd get The Sentry Vs Null like in the comics eh?
If Secret Wars wasn't so close, that could be a great Avengers movie to end a Phase.
@@mrheadcannon yea that is true though.
In the comics when sentry pulled up didn’t he get destroyed in like 10 seconds by knull? 😂😂 it’d be cool if he appears tho
They really think we want to see another team up with the 3 main movie spider men AGAIN? What made it so hype the first time is because it had never happened before and we got to see Andrew’s spider man and Toney’s spider man return to the big screen after many years, it won’t hit the same since they’ve already came back, Sony really sucks and just needs to let Marvel do all the heavy lifting since they’re so incompetent at making a decent story.
If that's the case then I hope it fails, all Sony's executives are stupid AF
Come on man, can't we just have andrew spiderman with deadpool
We all know how Sony has become pathetic now 😂😂😂
Marvel has more experience and knows that their audience wants, and that's why its such a successful franchise ❤
Not just Sony is ruining Spiderman.Also Marvel.They're already ruining him in the comics.But if this multiverse movie could bring back Andrew's Spiderman to replace Tom Holland's trash Spiderman.I would be extremely happy.
In the thumbnail they said we hate the fans it means that he fans they're hating on is the twitter/tiktok fans because they called the mcu spiderman thrash meanwhile the true sony spider man fans liked it
Sony milking the multiverse stuff😭😭🙏
won’t be ruined if Tom Hardy’s Venom is one of the main characters and gets a good amount of screen time.
Sony is the company which ruined amazing spider man 2 movie and,now they again reapeating it
At this point Sony should just sell the Spider-Man IP back to Marvel
they should, but they won't.
Toby and Andrew should do their own Sony spiderverse and Disney should continue Tom holland’s story, maybe they could use Toby and Andrew to actually clean up the Sonyverse with venom, morbius, and now madam web
We really need a solo college tom hallond spider man series I want that because Andrew and tobey aren't getting any younger i don't wanna a story being repeated 3 times
Meh, people also assumed Avatar 2 would tank. And it made over 1 billion.
And even more people assumed One piece live action would fail. And it's beloved
Just wait and see what happens.
Spider-Man multiverse era 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i am so done with the multiverse shit. Marvel should just buy spiderman back.
Sony should give us amazing spider man the one who lose control 😢😢😢
No we want continuation. MULTIVERSE CAN WAIT. I HOPE THIS DOES NOT FOLLOW THE DCU AND LOSE ALL IT'S WORTH IF THEY FAST FORWARD OR MIX TOO MANY THINGS.
Spider Man Daredevil Kingpin movie yes please
Sony should just return the rights to marvel at this point🤬
At this point just do a deadpool & Spider-Man movie bro, ain’t no way they could mess that up……right guys?
99% impossible. But they’d find a way.
love sony bur PLEASE LET MARVEL DO THIS MOVIE
All i wanted was a andrew 3rd movie…
Another issue, I hear the Marvel pitch and I get somewhat of a clear idea of what that could be, I hear Sony's and I hear cool ideas and a lot of potential but there's so many ways of doing it which means so many ways of screwing it up
Well regardless of what happens I'd imagine once they agree on the story Feige will be left to his own devices without Sony's meddling. Because even their not stupid enough to try to dictate what Feige does in making the movie, they know it'll piss him off.
They should make a movie Deadpool vs spiderman
Sony should just make spiderman 4 after secret wars if that's the case.
Without great story, comes wasting time trash sony movie.
sony should sell spiderman and itself too
I think they could make the multiverse movie work, but there should still be a Peter rebuilding his life movie eventually, either that or just please leave Peter alone in the multiverse crap 😭
somebody make sony go bankrupt so they have to sell away spiderman to Disney marvel
Sony is about to ruin Spider Man again. They never learn. Just give us a street crime level.
Who is letting them cook I think after beyond the spider verse marvel should buy the spiderman rights back
Bruh but the sony aint giving them the rights
@@mayurkXD855you know what your probably right because sony is greedy and wants that spiderman money
@@3csanti ikr
Spiderman is Marvel's most valuable character, so Sony will never sell the rights. Even if they make bad movies, they'll still make a lot of money.
@@mayurkXD855 Sony doesn't deserve the rights anymore.
Sony just give the fans what they want.
Dony never learns... Sony should let Marvel handle the Spider-Man movis... Sony should learn from Madam Web, Morbius...
Both ideas could have had a different movie tho I think first marvel’s story should be used and in that movie they can show that spider man made another mistake that brought him back to square zero and being troubled Peter Parker would look up the the more experienced spider men and then the first movie ends and then Sony can do their thing
sony is so dumb
wtf
Yo Sony should just give up film rights after spider Man beyond the spider verse they be cooking with the games tho
Anyone can cook with spiderman. He’s the best hero to ever exist.
Sony are damn fools
MCU is even better than Sony
fun fact: they never learn
Bro stop it with the multiverse storys, deadpool said himself they never work.
So stupid. Spider-Man JUST became "Spider-Man". A Daredevil team up was perfect.
Once a film opens the multiverse Pandora’s box, it’s impossible for the studio to scale back.
Flash was doomed from the start even if DCCU continued on
Sony has ruined Spider-Man before! Sony can’t even be trusted with Spider-Man!
I want an older spider man story I’m getting tired of the same high school Peter Parker.
2:00 Isn’t Knull planned to be the villain of Venom 3?
Rummerd to be
buddy marvel plan is lot better than Sonys plan
Its painful everytime venom the last dance was mentioned cause it was already released
that sounds horrific