I know right great times that used to keep managers in a job didn’t it? Like when Ron Atkinson twice then sir Alex in 1990. And other bosses I’m so glad I saw it from 1985-present and grew up to appreciate what it was like. Like many of us
Where I lived in 70s & 80s the streets fell quiet on Cup Final day come 3 o'clock, regardless of who was playing. It was the pinnacle of the English football season. Kids today will never experience that excitement.
As a Leeds lad and Leeds united fan I like a bit of rugby league aswell, I reckon state of origin RL is brilliant, but totally agree about the premier league
even my second love cricket has gone shit. The English county cricket use be great and they ruined that as well. T20 is a circus. The Ashes in Australia is no contest.
theyre starting to model it more like american sports. i'm american, and the nba has become really boring because it's all three point shooting. the celtics won last year's championship playing a really boring style of play. i know you guys dont care about nba, the point is just that sport loses its soul when it becomes this hyper efficient game of procedure, and like you said, a product
@andrewlee-py9zm totally understand your views on that mate,I personally love the basketball I take my boys to watch the London lions,not the same level obviously but good entertainment
@@FootballTheDadstalk my favourite Kop story which perfectly captures how it was ...Football Focus had a segment on Tony Cottee on the Saturday morning. Cottee showed them his scrapbook of newspaper cuttings he kept of himself. That afternoon West Ham were tanked 6-0 at Anfield and the Kop sang 'Tony Cottee, hows the scrapbook going now?'. It would not happen today. Local humour plus the fact the crowd could watch the tv shows on the Saturday morning, then decide to go to the game paying cash on the gate (to watch the eventual Champions of Europe). I remember your Arsenal use sing 'Robson, man of the match' on every live Arsenal game!
My rant: Hand over mouth when they talk😡 Bend the knee 😡 Artificial atmosphere with the tannoys playing the Same sing along song every week 😡 Players dropping to the floor every few minutes from minor contact 😡 Fans leaving ground at 40 mins to get some so called posh food 😡and leaving 5 mins before full time to beat traffic. Kits are all shit and covered in betting sponsors 😡 Could go on…
1980s kid here but as well as the footy, everyone had a go at being in a band. Clubs and music were even more important. The money men were always seen at only interested in money and a threat to the art.
All I want to see, is the shit loads of oil money being pumped into clubs such as Man City, Newcastle and foreign clubs like PSG to sod off. (All 3 of ‘em are owned by people from Middle Eastern petrostates like Saudi Arabia or Qatar or the UAE) Before the oil money ruined the game and made it near impossible for smaller teams to compete, football was actually fun to watch. And now it’s so uncompetitive and every league in Europe is dominated by a one single team… Germany: Bayern Munich Spain: Either Real Madrid or Barcelona England: Man City France: PSG And my home country Scotland: Celtic I just want to see these leagues be competitive again… and see other teams other than the ones I mentioned to have at least a fighting chance of winning sometime…
@@julianoxley5453 my eldest boy loved our trip to Portman road,was a championship game against Leeds and u won 1-0,must have been about 6/7 years ago now
Because of how exciting the games last season were for Ipswich & I'm an (occasional) Norwich fan , the ....'and what now ?' -is a common feeling . in the past all teams including those going for the league title wanted to win FA & League cups , now they're looked on as inconveniences . So apart from 'Avoiding relegation ' & possibly finishing mid table there's not much for most 'old style' supporters to get excited about in the Premiership , just enjoy the occasional good match.
Tip Tap, pass back, tip tap, pass across, pass back. tip tap, pass across, tip tap, passback to keeper, throw to nearest full back, tip tap, across the field, tip tap....... Premier League week-in, week-out, International matches and across Europe. Sick of "Tip-Tap" football.
Yes because most of the top coaches appear to be obsessed with retaining possession. So the upshot there is a lack of risk taking with passing, they don't want to give the ball away.
@@robtyman4281 Who says that "hoofing it up" is the only alternative to tip tap? Tip tap now starts from each penalty area and "clearing the lines" has all but disappeared because of this need for possrssion football. Still, if you find 50 passes okay when one would do, that's your prerogative. I don't.
@@robtyman4281 You clearly have never watched the game in the classic 60's 70's. It was a mixture of both long and short, by the way there's loads of long balls today. Have you ever watched the world cup final 66? - other than the goals I mean. It's a wonderful mixture of both short/long that was typical. Also, when an attack broke down the other side would set out to attack , not piss about , they were not obsessed with possession and crap scared to lose the ball.
A great example of how boring it all is now is the current Brazil team. They're nothing compared to some of the greats that played for that team. Vinicius jr would get nowhere near the 90's team let alone the 70 team yet he's the 2nd best player on the planet apparently.
@@FootballTheDadstalk I don't believe in 'conspiracy theories' ,but it's bizarre that that 75%(?) of teams play that way & I feel it might be encouraged because you're now never more than a couple of seconds away from some clueless defender gifting a goal because they don't know how to play a ball out & are uncomfortable in possession. Also the ridiculous amounts of added on time - they say 'it's for the supporters' but I think it's so clubs can charge more from sponsors if they are now getting up to ten minutes extra advertising , & of course more time to take in play bets .
Ex-Arsenal season ticket holder who stopped going due to the introduction of political agendas not supported by the majority of their core support. Was going since 1952, but it's not the same anymore especially with certain people shoehorned into punditry who spew crap nonstop. Enjoyed and agreed with your analysis.
I have started to watch "The Match" on you tube. 45 mins of football from the first Division late 60s , 70s and 80s. No diving, 100% commitment , . Proper football. Modern football is just polished.
@@markomahony5004 you don't mean 'the Big Match' ? that was shown on Sunday afternoon's ( in the London area) & had a London game & picks from a couple of other areas 'Granada' ,'Yorkshire TV ' , 'Anglia' etc & covered diffent divisions ,with the ever reliable Brian Moore ( why do programmes now think they have to have former players presenting when they're not as good as Des Lynham, D .Coleman , & those that were former players Jimmy Hill , Bob Wilson didn't go on all the time about their bloody careers !)
@@andchat6241 Your bringing back memories of when my Parents were alive and we had Sunday lunch together watching this..I really stopped loving the game at the end of the 1990s...
Yeah, watched a few of them myself. Some were more of a mud fight than football, but the enthusiasm and determination of the players in difficult conditions definitely created entertainment.
Fully agree. Didn’t miss MOTD for about 20 years from 1995-2015, honestly can’t remember the last time i watched it since then. Pundits are boring (other than Roy Keane), The EPL is so tedious, it’s a complete snoozefest. I, like you, have started watching Semi Professional football as it’s still realistic. Teams are too scared to lose now rather than go all out for the win.
Not convinced. I loved the old 1St Div of the 70s Leeds, Chelsea, Arsenal going up Man U going down, the muddy pitches and the violent fans, it was a great time. But, things move on. Now we have players with the same skills but more fit, far better pitches and hardly ever any fights. I loved the old days. but you know what.....I love the new days as well.
Mate I'm a 51 year old liverpool fan and totally agree with you...greedy players who go down if a blade of grass flicks them rolling around crying..... New stadiums get football tourists watching games through their phones..... Saw sky 1992 league review happier times and Grays voice and dark muddy games of players not millionaires who will run through brick walls to win...
@@FootballTheDadstalk like you said mate money and greed... Tell you the phase I've come to really hate.... generational wealth for their families....excuses for all decisions that upsets fans.... Working class fans who struggle to buy food hear homes....but they worry about ancestors being wealthy....
It peaked late 90s early 2000s imo. You watch games from then now and think, ooh that’ll be a yellow, and it not even given as a foul and the tackled player just gets up and carries on. Man City are a real life version of someone playing champ manager with a cheat on. VAR was the last straw
VAR took away the controversy which was always a big part of the game. All fans can do now is talk about the colour of the away teams kit down the pub.
@@horace9341 Even though it hasn't since controversial decisions still occur. Tech is useless if the people using it are corrupt. It's a human issue, not a tech issue.
Everton fan here, agree with pretty much most of what you’ve said 💙 No grit, personality, passion, poor officiating, too much money, corruption, media bias. My club has suffered so much.
your club is an absolute giant in this country, unfortunately people have drained it and its sad to see. As much as your new stadium looks nice Goodison is amazing
I remember the protests against outside Goodison back in the day. Amazingly, we were one of the clubs that pushed for it, and then sat on our hands while ever other club over took us .
@@Toffee-Nug78 I went to goodison Park a three times in mid late eighties ,it was the best away trip to watch united, pisses on Liverpools so called famous atmosphere back in the day 👍
For once I have to agree with an Arsenal fan. I used to go to White Hart Lane, loved it. I’m glad I live in Australia now, a good excuse for not going anymore. VAR is the final nail in the coffin.
I fucked it off a few years back. Done with an heavy heart, I'd just had enough of ludicrous ticket prices, shit sanitized atmospheres and silly kick off days and times to accommodate Sky and TNT sport's. Manchester city fan of 40 years. RIP Maine Road 2003
I'm a Blue too mate. Everyone is commenting from the heart on here. I no longer go. Went to the 'new' place about half a dozen times, the last about 2012. I often dream about Maine Road, my spiritual home, and that final day when the whole pitch was covered in blue at the end...what memories..
The amount of non-whites, is a mirror image of British society. One has to reflect the other. Research the K@lergi Plan and you will see exactly what I mean.
Spurs fan. Aint been 15 years and never going again. Agree with everything you’ve said 100%. It’s not football it’s a global multi billion pound business, corporate entertainment for wealthy middle class people and tourists. And they’re not footballers they’re multi-millionaire celebrities motivated by money and greed. It will only get worse. Working man’s game, gone forever, average working man can’t afford to go!
@@FootballTheDadstalk Your backdrop caught my eye. I’ve had an Ajax season ticket since 2012 which incidentally cost me £250 (it went up this season!) I go with my pal who’s a West Ham fan, another member of the club thats kicked the premier league into touch. We’re both retired and its a hobby that we really enjoy Obviously we can’t go every week but football over there is a much more authentic working class experience.
@@DavidBattram now I'm jealous mate , I fell in love with Cruyff,Ajax and the Netherlands national team at age 7/8 . And still fans of all to this day. Have a looks the video an Englishman who supports the Netherlands I did
I'm only 6 mins in, but I have to comment now. You're absolutely spot on, mate! Especially what you say about wingers; I'm a long suffering Everton fan, but I had the pleasure of watching Andrei Kanchelskis week in week out in his pomp - my God! What a winger he was! Don't see wingers like him anymore!
I'm an Aberdeen supporter and you mentioned the scottish league. We're now approaching 40 years since a non old firm club won the title, celtic and rangers always dominated but that has never happened in the history of our game. The 80's were a golden period for scottish football, aberdeen won the league 3 times, dundee united won it once. Aberdeen won the cup winners cup and dundee united reached the UEFA cup final. Money has killed the game theres absolutely no chance for teams who dont play in a top 5 league now. Couldn't agree more that football is becoming rigid and the individuality is gone from the game
I'm only 6 mins in, but I have to comment now. You're absolutely spot on, mate! Especially what you say about wingers; I'm a long suffering Everton fan, but I had the pleasure of watching Andrei Kanchelskis week in week out in his pomp - my God! What a winger he was! Don't see wingers like him anymore!
@@FerminTrujilloEspetero Well you do but they play wing back like Andy Robinson like him or not he plays the whole wing and whips in crosses (Used to) its an evolved possion getting 1 man to play in 2
If it can help I can bring a story from Norwegian football. We had Rosenborg BK winning every year from 1991 to 2004. 13 consecutive titles. How we hated them. After that they were a bit up and down but never worse than 5th spot. In last 4-5 years that have been thrown out of the top positions. Although the last sign is they might be back at top 3 next year. Point is that it is possible for the mighty, rich clubs to fall from grace. In the case of Celtic I really hope so. Most things are wrong with that club. My favorite team beat them twice in last year's Cl though. Old firm dominance is not good. It looks like Aberdeen has a good team now though.
@@willleon9165 I'm surprised you don't all know SERIE A was boring back then because is was rigged with match fixing-the mafia ran the show! 0-0 1-1 games and the odd 3-0, but mainly it was just 1-1 and 0-0....it's kinad known that it was all rigged....everyone who watch serie A in the 90's knew something didn't add up..!
It's not what you have for the most part lol Back then Serie A was packed with stars through the whole league. There almost no star players in the epl nowadays. A few in the top sides, nothing below. Serie A was also fiercely competitive. The epl is the exact opposite ... despite the marketing men somehow convincing the dopes that are watching otherwise.
I agree completely with you mate... I've lost complete interest in Football. Overpaid, cheating, diving and now a game full of tarts. Teams including international teams all play the same... Italy used to be defensive, Brazil full of flair and off the cuff... teams used to have an individual identity. Players just have to be athletes these days and don't need much skill or even have a football brain
@@FootballTheDadstalk Something else - & I'm not Xenophobic or racist but if I go to watch 'my team' I want to see some local players In there (Doesn't matter what colour they are) . But most people shown a squad ,who they'd played for ,where they are from wouldn't be able to guess which team they are . Clubs are always making a big thing of their importance to 'the community ' . What could be more important than local players with some talent thinking 'I've got a chance to play for my local team' ?
@@andchat6241 yeah i totally get that mate , cant beat a local lad playing at his local club . Maybe these clubs need to make sure there is a certain pathway to the first team,i know a lot of lower league clubs dont even have academies where they can nurture them
@@FootballTheDadstalk yes that's true about what used to be the grass roots, largely because the academy's have to fit so many criteria so unless they can guarantee 2or 3 good players each season its an expensive risk ..
@@spendover if you get a chance watch some of the Brazilian matches from '74 World Cup- they were like an 'International Leeds utd' ...but you're right mostly teams had their identity- even a poor German team were organised & professional ,for some reason Argentina were really boring ( though they had good players)
The pitches don’t help. They are part artificial and that means tackles and rough play has been essentially outlawed. Skill used to have be paired with courage and bravery. Today, they roll around like girls in a playground. Pep’s team couldn’t play this way in the 1990’s. Underdog teams like Wimbledon would push them off their stride. It’s removed the depth from the game.
The Premier League along with the Champions League killed football. Also, I used to love the FA Cup, but I don't bother watching it now that it's been so devalued. I support Ipswich and I'm sure the powers that be don't want us in the Prem. You're so right about the corruption, VAR opens the way for it. You're like my mate, he's an Arsenal supporter, but he goes to watch Chelmsford City now.
@@hazharibo7439 I agree, except that I see little point in some teams gaining promotion. Aston Villa and Nottinghsm Forest have bucked the trend in recent seasons (after struggling initially), but most of the promoted clubs really struggle in the first season (or two) in the PL. Last season was a particularly bitter pill for Leeds fans to swallow, being easily one of the best 3 teams (beating Leicester and Ipswich twice) and then finishing third but (predictably) missing out in the play off final. Six months later, a lot of us will be happier to be sitting second in the Championship while Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton have just 3 or 4 wins between them with more than a quarter of the PL season played. I just wonder, is there much point in clubs like Burnley and Sheffield United getting promoted back to the PL, unless they suddenly get a massive cash injection? Sheffeld United in particular were rock bottom and cast adrift for virtually the whole of their last 2 seasons in the PL. It would be interesting if the season ticket holders of the top 3 Championship clubs were allowed a vote at the end of the season. Question being: Do you want to go into the PL or have another season in the Championship?
@@portcullis5622 Yeah the only reason would be for the money really. Anything else is pointless with the current state of things. I mean Ipswich only just got their first win and faced a load of shite decisions from the ref both for and against. Reminds me of current formula 1, stale, unimaginative, desolate, shite, humdrum, corrupt etc.
@@SheffieldSteve791 Not actually the case though, is it? Promoted back to 1st Division (after an 8 year gap) in 1990. Won the 1st Division Championship in 1992. Relegated from PL in 2004 (14 years). Promoted back to PL in 2020. Relegated in 2023. (3 seasons) So two promotions and relegations to and from top flight in 34 years. 17 of those years in the top division.
Well said mate! Agree with everything you said! What I hate is that all types of records in football only go back as far as when the premier league started and they don’t take anything of the records in to account what happened in the whole history of football, football did not start when the premier league was formed
@@ETIKUT99 exactly mate, some people forget it didn't start in 92. Give me proper legends like Brian clough getting forest promoted and winning top division followed by two European cup all day Long
@@FootballTheDadstalk your right there, plus football felt a lot more local back then, they represented the actual town they were based in, give it another 10 years and I’m sure just like the NFL, premier league clubs will be able to move towns.
@@FootballTheDadstalk also I’ll be meeting Emmanuel Petit tomorrow, I’ll ask him what he thinks of the current state of the premier league, I don’t think he’s on the Arsenal payroll so he should be honest with me
We live in a hyper-globalised social media driven world now. It's here to stay. It's no use hoping we'll go back to the 1950's or 60's. That ain't going to happen.
A few years back most 'football fans' ( like myself) took an interest in all the teams & how they did , & hoping they'd get out what they put in - a Cup Victory, a run in Europe, occasionally being at the top . But fans of a particular club can live in an artificial bubble that just covers 'their team' & nothing else & no interest in what other teams are doing .
Scientific Footy will always look dry as fuck. No soul...players caught playing for their own stats. Mate, you know what is? No fouling anymore, no combat. Real men have been swapped out for statistical ballet dancer athletes.
The nail in the coffin for me was all the BLM kneeling garbage in 2020, and now they're inserting women into the pre/after match discussions just for the sake of it, and don't get me started on "Boring boring VAR, boring VAR" ha ha
@@FootballTheDadstalk My final moan is the shaking hands pre match crap, no, sod that, I wanna see opposing players getting their nuts squeezed being told "I'll see you after the game son" not laughing & joking with the opposition All in good spirit of the game though, shake hands AFTER the game not before if you know what I mean? I could go on with more, but if I do, it may turn into a book ha ha
@@MrCheswickMusic mate don't get me started on that,all cuddling I'm the tunnel FFS , get out there kick the shit out of eachother ,shake hands after and get home
Too much money. Too many nonces. British football used to be a style of play; hard tackling, hard work, no rolling around like a prick after a challenge. Not worth the money lad. Great video.
Stood on The Kop in the 70s and 80s and went to 100s of away games, atmosphere and football was brilliant. Now it's just a huge commercial scam full of corruption. Good honest content, keep it up.
i watch the big match revisited and another show i believe is called match day or something on itv4 feather cuts , tiny too tight shorts , boots in any colour as long as its black great football played on pitches that resemble the Somme liam brady , frank Worthington stan bowls , ricky villa , proepr football with hard tackles the only reason they took the knee was because kenny samson had cracked them in the clacker bag
Completely agree mate. I am scottish and have watched the old firm bore the league to death all my life, with the only blip in their dominance being Aberdeen and Dundee United in the 80's. The foreign players, cheating, defenders not being able to tackle, commentators stating, I think there was contact. Yeah it is a contact sport. And the final nail in the coffin, being VAR, 20 minutes to review a dive and still giving the penalty. Clown world. I now watch Scottish Junior football, which is effectively semi-pro in England. Full on challenges, no diving, banter in the crowd. Any time I watch SPL or EPL, I lose interest about 10 minutes in, after yet more non-entities diving and no one playing for the badge, too busy doing their hair and wearing the brightest coloured boots, tedious.
i do mate , me and my two boys have season tickets at Dagenham now, love it over there.real football and real people.not a give me your shirt sign in sight
I've been catching a lot of non-league and foreign league as well as amateur football on TH-cam myself, and indeed have shifted to that to get my baseball fix as well. And the Game is far more satisfying at those levels than in the "bigs". The leagues are less predictable, are not plastic commercial spectacles, they're played in smaller and I think more psychologically healthy venues with friendlier crowds, they're cheaper, and the standard of play is most acceptable. I know here in America I've found far more satisfaction with the lower leagues and their stadiums than I did with the big pro leagues. My mother had a saying: "a big size uses up too much" and she was right. At the top pro levels the Game has become all about money and nothing but money and everything else is being sacrificed to that imperative. Using up too much. I would agree. Lower league is better all around -- maybe not in the top professional standards as those are currently defined, but in every other way that counts for the true fan.
I moved up North 10-years & support the local non league team, Gainsborough Trinity FC & it’s proper grass roots football, proper defenders & strikers who don’t roll a round for half hours 😂👍
Exiled Everton fan here. Born in Liverpool in 54. You are spot on here fella. I was a regular match goer until Roberto Martinez was the manager. Travelled up from Hampshire most weeks, travelled away to most places with the lads. I was watching us beat Aston Villa at Goodison Park and I thought why am I doing this, it was shite to watch. Side to side and backwards. Started going to Eastleigh who had just been promoted to the Nat League. Much better match experience all round. Now living in Lincolnshire and watch the UCL Premier division north. I call it honest football, the players give everything. £5 (old man price) to get in and you can have a pint on the sideline. Cant watch England now, I find it so boring to watch.
So glad I'm not the only one! I'd started thinking recently that every game was like a game of chess. The games feel soul less, players scared of injury, every tackle results in them being on the floor looking for a free kick or penalty.
mate i thought i was alone in thinking this and wasnt even going to post this video incase i got pelters lol. Look down the comments so many of us are sick of it
@FootballTheDadstalk Crazy, it's become so stale over time, almost in the same way music has. Soul less, clean, polished. Football is almost non contact, I noticed a lot of goals only come from mistakes or things like deflections which lead to situations that can't be prepared for. As for the bias commentary I've also noticed that too, always neville and Keane on man u games. Employing people like carragher who spit at kids and firing people like Matt Le Tissier. Sums it up
Spot on, agree with all you have said, I've turned my back on the Game, Political agendas, VAR players being payed 200k a week,100 million on some players, its not for me anymore ..
I hate it so much I couldn't even watch all your video as it would set me off. I was a regular in the 1980s (Liverpool) and I could see the way the game was headed in the 1990s but I never thought it would be as bad as this. I agree with you 100%. I still get a buzz out of the 1970s and 1980s footy, the style, the skill , the personalities and the crowd. I hate the tiki taka / Guardiola style. He is OCD. OCD football. In January 1984 we (Liverpool) took 700 to Sheffield for a midweek league cup game in the snow. The CL final against Spurs in 2019..... 5,000 Liverpool fans converged in Washington DC alone . It's a completely different world and game now and it will never go back. Global fans will always roll up to watch and buy tickets especially younger generations who do not know any better. Once you went in the 1980s, everything pales into insignificance. I also miss the days when teams generally had the same players year on year. Now I don't even know the names of the players. The turnover is constant. Global bankers came into British football and ruined it.
The football is crap, possession based and too much own half tippy happy shite. I am a Saints fan, it is awful with no end result, it was fun in the Championship with no VAR. It is a good old honest league, lots of goals, closer games and apart from us, limited tippy tappy.
@LorenzoMinaccia The league has become more like the globalist Monopoly playing out in day to day living. The top teams have become stronger at a time when powerful owners were able to spend hundreds of millions on teams before FFP became a thing, it is much harder for the majority of teams to compete, so it is far from a level playing field, which it used to be back in the 70s and 80s. The Championship is a league that is more competitive, more honest and more exciting, although the possession based game is even being introduced there. The Premier League was good in the 90s, but has steadily become soulless.
Wolves fan and former season ticket holder for 20 years on and off. Gave it up during Covid, that was the first season of VAR and had already lost my passion for going when I first celebrated a goal that was eventually ruled out. Never celebrated the same again. Not paying nearly a grand a year for that experience. Take me back to the 90s and early 00s any day, we were shit back then but I loved going with my old man.
Everything you have said from the beginning to the end is absolutely spot on everythink mate. I'm an Arsenal season ticket holder had one since 1984 been going since 1971 aged 9 mainly in the clockend back then. (miss Highbury so much) My point is I had to have an heart procedure the other week so I had to miss 3 games my son had one off the games but the other 2 my seat was empty. Now I've been warned if I miss one more match this season my ticket will be taken from me next season. Going back to what you said they don't care about the real fans it's all about money 😡(sorry to go on a bit)
@FootballTheDadstalk oh yeah , and when was that ? Must of been a long long time ago. No , Arsenal have never had true " class " , just an overvalued estimation of themselves and a very predatory nature e.g. they have always been really greedy and exploitative . I can remember being disgusting at the prices they charged for a pint 30 years ago when I watched my team , Manchester United , play at Highbury .
A seat which has been paid for but sits empty won't generate matchday sales {food and merchandise etc}, this is what they want, more money. Greed no loyalty.
Rose tinted glasses. Try watching a game in full from 1990 with the old offside law and constant (yes constant!) back passing. The current PL seems boring because there’s too much of it on television.
@@peterreid9769 lol rose tinted glasses ,I just know what I prefer and it's my opinion. The whole experience not just the game mate . Bigger picture . If u prefer the football now that's up to you mate football is all about opinions
@@peterreid9769 on the other hand try watching a game from 1990 with the likes of John Barnes,Gazza,anders Limpar,David Rocastle amongst multiple others taking on 3/4 players at a time.pros and cons mate .hardmen,characters everywhere u looked.
You are 100% right with all your views. I’ve always thought the league cup should incorporate Scottish sides , this would be miles better , like the old Anglo Scottish cup !
Living in japan and watching football without VAR and with players playing with individuality and stadiums with actually class atmospheres was just unreal, reminded me of going to games in the 90s
The atmosphere is always going to be better when the fans have showed up to support their own people. It's hard to get enthused over a pack of mercenary foreigners.
Think the Bosman ruling started the decline. Nothing against the top foreign footballers playing here but filling sides with bang average players over giving our own prospects a chance just seems wrong. Add into that VAR dragging out games, ridiculous high wages and needing a billionaire owner to challenge at the top its a sad decline and unlikely to ever be reversed
Once upon a time I was a football nut. If you said to me 20 years ago that I wouldn't bother watching MOTD or whatever, I would have bet anything against that happening. I literally cannot be asked with it. It's as though the players have been cloned and are running on computer instructions. Lemmings. I just don't care for the players. Players in the 90's were ...humans.Players' agent's have dossiers on their players with stats which help them with their market value. That's why they'd rather play a safe boring pass which is successful than to risk not completing a defence splitting through ball. Yawn.
@@TheShipsCat-ef6yw so many feel the same way mate, doing this video has really opened my eyes up with the response and how so many are feeling the same
You are spot. I'm a West Ham who started going to watch them aged 17, in 1990. I'm glad because it meant I was able to stand on the Northbank terraces, befoire it became all seater. i wholeheartedly agree wit you about the half and half scarves. Why the fuck would i want a scarf that is half the other teams colours And this EG, expected goals bollocks really grinds my gears. you can tell that the pundits who talk about EG think that it makes them seem knowledgable. And VAR has runied the best part of t he match, when your team scores. I do still go up to West Ham and wen we score, it isn't as euphoric because I know that even after the ref is ok with the goal, the VAR people may overturn it
When football was just great fun.....Chicken Run Season Ticket,Pie n Mash (Double Double) and a pint of Fosters...Irons Travel Club member from age of 12 travelling on football specials all over the country.....all paid for out of my paper round money!!! So glad i'm nearly 56 and grew up before the money men took over our game. Great channel mate.
Watford fan here. So much happier in the second tier. Why? Because fans are there to genuinely care about one of the two teams on the pitch. In the Prem, so many tourists, fair weather fans, etc and impossible to get a ticket for certain games. I was also fed up of seeing my club sell its soul to keep up with corporate requirements. This season, we got to the 3rd round of the League Cup. Top 6 were guaranteed to not play each other and top 4 had their game at home. So guess what, we got Man City away. Played well (considering we sent our reserves) and lost 2-1, with a perfectly good goal chalked off. Corruption is the word. My dream season: win the league (second tier), win the FA Cup, then stay in the second tier.
I love it dude! I'm a 53 year old arsenal fan and you totally echo my thoughts about their style of play. It's robotic and predictable. I actually watch more old footy on TH-cam than prem games today. It's way more enjoyable, even if I know the result. It's so refreshing to see a game from the nineties officiated by a ref and two linesman and no poxy VAR slowing the game down and still getting decisions spectacularly wrong. Great rant bro. It's great to hear someone moaning about the same stuff as me!! I also just happen to be wearing a Dutch national shirt at the moment.... amazing coincidence!!!
@@deandouglas839 u my friend as a fellow Gooner,withe that same thoughts,wearing a Dutch shirt are a legend. Massively appreciate you watching and taking the time to respond.
No one takes a shot no more! What a football season now when I'd be happy to finish 17th ffs! Portman Rd still a 8 min walk from the train station. Lots of fans like this. The gap is so huge now from the Championship. I still think we'll be OK, but after watching the last 2 seasons winning every week, this is a hard watch. 🔵⚪️
Hi mate, ive had a few say they got to the premier league and it isnt what they hoped, whats your thoughts?ive even had someone say hope we go down and play at proper grounds again
Mate your first 30 seconds got me in .Excellent video. I was having this EXACT convo the other day about Rugby League and to a certain degree Tennis and i think all sports have become too Mechanized . That is the word that kept popping up - mechanized . It is all about minimizing risk because when you think about it really - All professional sporting teams, whether it is Premier League , Rugby League , Aussie Rules etc are nothing more than business corporations that compete against one another on a field of green grass. You end up with sterile and predictable play the same way if you buy a Big Mac from one county to another there is a fair chance it's going to taste pretty much the same . Cheers .
Great video. Couldn’t agree more. Only thing I’d contest with is this: Nottingham Forest. They look like they may just be this season’s surprise. Aston Villa have also been enjoyable to watch. As an Argie I’m admittedly biased with this, but Garnacho’s one of the few who’ll run at guys in the prem. He’s no Ronaldo but at least he tries. They’re a dying breed now, just like the pure number 10. I think the romantic football we geezers love will die with Messi’s and Ronaldo’s retirement. Only player who gets me hyped to watch the prem is Cole Palmer. He’s a beauty.
@ I think we’re a bit similar, mate. I’m 41. You’ve got a new subscriber in me. Grew up idolizing guys like Gabriel Batistuta, Paulo Maldini, Brazilian Ronaldo, etc. A different time. The game was both brutal and breathtakingly beautiful. Never thought I’d say it but I miss the days of Roy Keane just laying someone out. Today’s football lacks that oomph. Too much money. Too much corporate influence. It got too shiny. Football’s been neutered by politics, too. But I won’t get into that. I agree with you that the over implementation of statistical analyses and science in general is destroying the game. A lot of coaches have made it too mechanical with their tactics, too. These guys aren’t robots. Some of them are creative. Let them go out there and create. Needs to go back to being a balance of brutality, art and sheer theatre.
@@15harry1561 well that would be better than in Saudi Arabia! . The simple truth is from the owners/investors/leeches ,managers & his assistants, sponsors ,players & Kick Off times the top divisions in England does not represent 'English football' - I'm not being xenophobic ,it's the same as when I've watched matches in Spain or Italy- I want to see something that represents their culture , not just more of a similar 'product' .
Already started in Spain .. I used to go to United back in the 80s - OMG the atmosphere.. and hard players.. I loved it. Now everyone trying to play the pep way and it’s it’s awful! We have a winger in Garnacho and they are already trying to stop him driving forward .. you can jsut see where it’s going. VAR is killing our game. We will be sold abroad within 5 years 😢
Can’t stand the tippy tappy football, I miss direct counter attacking football. Georgia in the euros were a great throw back, so good to watch. Stats is one thing but the main thing is money. All about money.
Great video...I prefer the old school British style of football but for me the football is secondary I can put up with any style of play as long as you get a buzz going to the stadium.. I don't feel that primal buzz and excitement going to these sterile over regulated stadiums anymore.. Was just watching Man City vs Man Utd 1989 on TH-cam and it's a completely different world back then within the first minute theres aggro on the terraces the stadium full of 40k Englishmen of fighting age..truth is that sense of danger was a major part of why we loved going to football This modern football culture is not the football culture we all fell in love with it's only being propped up because people from the previous era are loyal but if fans aren't getting anything out of watching football and they're not getting anything out of going to a stadium and they're paying extortionate prices to be miserable... I feel a collapse is coming and it can't come soon enough
Everything you've said is true. Even to watch the 3 minute highlights is proving to be too much of a chore for me nowadays, nevermind watch a full 90 minutes.
Radcliffe at Man.United wants to build a new 100,000 seater stadium to replace Old Trafford,well I suppose you've got to find more space for the tourists.And of course these new stadiums have got to be 'multipurpose', for concerts & other events.Don't know the situation in other countries but I think we are slowly approaching the point where disconnected fans will turn their back on this commercial crap.I live just round the back of Stockport County & let me tell you players & fans give all they've got.The ideal situation will be that grass- roots & lower divisions start to build a new football reality,but how long would it take? Who knows but discussions should start now.Countless fans have wanted to believe things will improve but deep down we all know what's ahead.Support local,plenty of genuine fans there.
You sound like my workmate, who is a Forest fan, blood comes out of his eyes if you mention Pep Guardiola. I stopped watching England when Southgate took over, I do try to watch the Faroe Islands when I can find them though. What they lack in quality they make up for in grit and effort. Xg is something they made up for losing managers to use as a shield in post match interviews. Also young fans are worrying about FFP when they should be thinking about whether their striker scores.
Absolutely spot on. Get rid of VAR, and bring back the game from the 80s. I remember the classic old games where the players ran around in mud baths. Players wouldn’t even walk on those pitches these days
Couldn't agree more, I now watch my local team down in Tier 9, so much more exciting and proper football with hard tackling and a good mix of long balls and passing through the middle. Players decent standard too and can also have a pint on the pitchside 👍
I agree with all of you! When I read the comments here, I see the proper real football fans. We must rise up and take our football back! PL is shite! Bring back the days when winning the FA-CUP was like winning the world and glory. So what are we gonna do with It?
@@FootballTheDadstalk Oi Mate! Yea, we need to wake up and understand that we´re been played and been pissed on. We, the fans need to lay banter and club rivaly besides and unite as one movment and take our football back. I´m old school supporter, I miss the atmosphere, the old game with the real players and the real feelings with proper fans. Us, working people with the passion for our clubs. You got my respect and a new sub mate, I´m a old school Vålerenga and Man. United fan. In Norway, It´s costum to have a local team and an English team. Vålerenga Oslo since birth and United since 1986. Come to Oslo and see Vålerenga some time? The Atmosphere is like England before PL took the piss on us. Have a good one mate!
@@FootballTheDadstalk Forgot to say, United is a shit show today. The Club is fucked, same with Arsenal and the others. Football without real fans is dead....
I'm 20 years old, so don't know what it was like before the big money, but you are spot on. Football is becoming infested with nerds and tourists. I was watching the PAOK vs Man United game on the telly a few weeks ago, and, in a massive 70'000+ ground you could hear the PAOK supporters just as well. And this xg nonsense is completely ridiculous.
Honestly, I’ve gotten into Ligue 1. My club, Olympique Lyonnais, got their asses beat 4-1 last season by PSG, and after the game, the ultras got on the microphone and demanded that they start playing better. Now, we’re in the top half of the table and we’re playing in the Europa League. Not to mention, their tifos are amazing.
Spot on mate! Thanks for speaking truth here, this is not only the case for the Premier League unfortunately but also taking more and more ground here in Germany. I loved the PL in the early 2000s, passion, fantastic and pure football, unbelievable atmosphere in classic stadiums which you already pointed out a few. I miss these times and the football back then. It has been a sell out show since these days and I am sick and tired of it as well. Thanks for pointing this out mate, greetings from Germany
Manchester city, Arsenal or Liverpool. Who else has a realistic chance to win the title. I watched Chelsea beat Noah 8-0 and hardly knew any of the Chelsea team. TOO MUCH MONEY, that is the REAL problem.
Bring back the days when winning the FA Cup meant a lot more than finishing fucking 4th in the league.
fucking great post ,spot on
The FA Cup Final was the absolute season highlight. End of.
I know right great times that used to keep managers in a job didn’t it? Like when Ron Atkinson twice then sir Alex in 1990. And other bosses I’m so glad I saw it from 1985-present and grew up to appreciate what it was like. Like many of us
@@sammyb1651I agree
Where I lived in 70s & 80s the streets fell quiet on Cup Final day come 3 o'clock, regardless of who was playing. It was the pinnacle of the English football season. Kids today will never experience that excitement.
I’m watching from Australia, the entire world of sport is now shit.
im still clinging on to lower league football fella lol
As a Leeds lad and Leeds united fan I like a bit of rugby league aswell, I reckon state of origin RL is brilliant, but totally agree about the premier league
even my second love cricket has gone shit. The English county cricket use be great and they ruined that as well. T20 is a circus. The Ashes in Australia is no contest.
That’s because we are allowing dirty desert money ruining every single sport!!
Globalist programming. Take the knee!
The Premier League isn't for fans anymore, just tourists and corporate hospitality.
spot on
I know right it’s messed up now.
And it's Americanised, if that makes sense
I noticed how they put all the Asian tourists right at the front so you see them on the TV?
@@pauliesk.7102 is why atmospheres are cack these days, not true fans.
When they started referring to it as a "product", that was the beginning of the end.
absolutely mate, made it a product and the magic was lost
theyre starting to model it more like american sports. i'm american, and the nba has become really boring because it's all three point shooting. the celtics won last year's championship playing a really boring style of play. i know you guys dont care about nba, the point is just that sport loses its soul when it becomes this hyper efficient game of procedure, and like you said, a product
@andrewlee-py9zm totally understand your views on that mate,I personally love the basketball I take my boys to watch the London lions,not the same level obviously but good entertainment
@@FootballTheDadstalk thats awesome to hear, i'm sure it's great fun. subbed to your channel, the xG rant made me crack up. cheers from california!
@andrewlee-py9zm lol glad you had a chuckle mate, my aim is complete
Saint and Greavesy on a Saturday morning was peak football.
@@GranTurismoRaceReplays oh yes great times and the big match on itv not knowing which game they would show
mate the magic days
@@FootballTheDadstalk my favourite Kop story which perfectly captures how it was ...Football Focus had a segment on Tony Cottee on the Saturday morning. Cottee showed them his scrapbook of newspaper cuttings he kept of himself. That afternoon West Ham were tanked 6-0 at Anfield and the Kop sang 'Tony Cottee, hows the scrapbook going now?'. It would not happen today. Local humour plus the fact the crowd could watch the tv shows on the Saturday morning, then decide to go to the game paying cash on the gate (to watch the eventual Champions of Europe). I remember your Arsenal use sing 'Robson, man of the match' on every live Arsenal game!
@@FootballTheDadstalk sure was
yup, good days man
My rant:
Hand over mouth when they talk😡
Bend the knee 😡
Artificial atmosphere with the tannoys playing the Same sing along song every week 😡
Players dropping to the floor every few minutes from minor contact 😡
Fans leaving ground at 40 mins to get some so called posh food 😡and leaving 5 mins before full time to beat traffic.
Kits are all shit and covered in betting sponsors 😡
Could go on…
grerat post,every word spot on
Fantastic comment. Am I ok to quote that word for word when people ask me why I stopped going on the match 15 years ago?
What's wrong with taking a knee??
@ fill ya boots
Bend the knee is part of hard left Marxists BS when did politics get involved 😮
Money always corrupts and that’s what has happened to our great game
money,the root of all evil
1980s kid here but as well as the footy, everyone had a go at being in a band. Clubs and music were even more important. The money men were always seen at only interested in money and a threat to the art.
I will say this: It's no longer the 'peoples' game anymore.
Its not even the peoples world anymore. Capitalism has to be reigned in, but it wont. In order to stay profitable, democracy itself is bought and sold
All I want to see, is the shit loads of oil money being pumped into clubs such as Man City, Newcastle and foreign clubs like PSG to sod off. (All 3 of ‘em are owned by people from Middle Eastern petrostates like Saudi Arabia or Qatar or the UAE) Before the oil money ruined the game and made it near impossible for smaller teams to compete, football was actually fun to watch. And now it’s so uncompetitive and every league in Europe is dominated by a one single team…
Germany: Bayern Munich
Spain: Either Real Madrid or Barcelona
England: Man City
France: PSG
And my home country Scotland: Celtic
I just want to see these leagues be competitive again… and see other teams other than the ones I mentioned to have at least a fighting chance of winning sometime…
Ipswich fan here. Totally agree with you mate. Premier too sterile and political!
how u feeling as an ipswich fan in this league?what u hoped for?
Norwich fan here: We've been telling you that for quite a number of years.
@@FootballTheDadstalkagree with you as Ipswich season ticket holder Championship and L1 far more exciting and lack plastic fans with half half scarves
@@julianoxley5453 my eldest boy loved our trip to Portman road,was a championship game against Leeds and u won 1-0,must have been about 6/7 years ago now
Because of how exciting the games last season were for Ipswich & I'm an (occasional) Norwich fan , the ....'and what now ?' -is a common feeling .
in the past all teams including those going for the league title wanted to win FA & League cups , now they're looked on as inconveniences .
So apart from 'Avoiding relegation ' & possibly finishing mid table there's not much for most 'old style' supporters to get excited about in the Premiership , just enjoy the occasional good match.
Tip Tap, pass back, tip tap, pass across, pass back. tip tap, pass across, tip tap, passback to keeper, throw to nearest full back, tip tap, across the field, tip tap....... Premier League week-in, week-out, International matches and across Europe. Sick of "Tip-Tap" football.
spot on fella
Yes because most of the top coaches appear to be obsessed with retaining possession. So the upshot there is a lack of risk taking with passing, they don't want to give the ball away.
Well it beats 'hoof it up the pitch long ball' any day.
@@robtyman4281 Who says that "hoofing it up" is the only alternative to tip tap? Tip tap now starts from each penalty area and "clearing the lines" has all but disappeared because of this need for possrssion football. Still, if you find 50 passes okay when one would do, that's your prerogative. I don't.
@@robtyman4281 You clearly have never watched the game in the classic 60's 70's. It was a mixture of both long and short, by the way there's loads of long balls today. Have you ever watched the world cup final 66? - other than the goals I mean. It's a wonderful mixture of both short/long that was typical. Also, when an attack broke down the other side would set out to attack , not piss about , they were not obsessed with possession and crap scared to lose the ball.
A great example of how boring it all is now is the current Brazil team. They're nothing compared to some of the greats that played for that team. Vinicius jr would get nowhere near the 90's team let alone the 70 team yet he's the 2nd best player on the planet apparently.
exactly mate,ronaldo,ronaldiho etc absolute levels above him
imagine 1998 brazil with a shitter like Hulk. brazil has been garbage for a good decade+ now. saD!
1982 Brazilian team was special, best team never to win the world Cup & he would struggle to make that team imp
Spot on I’ve been thinking that for a while. All the pissing about at the back does my head in.
@@jakesbuddy my old man does his nut over it
@@FootballTheDadstalk I don't believe in 'conspiracy theories' ,but it's bizarre that that 75%(?) of teams play that way & I feel it might be encouraged because you're now never more than a couple of seconds away from some clueless defender gifting a goal because they don't know how to play a ball out & are uncomfortable in possession.
Also the ridiculous amounts of added on time - they say 'it's for the supporters' but I think it's so clubs can charge more from sponsors if they are now getting up to ten minutes extra advertising , & of course more time to take in play bets .
@andchat6241 good points
Are you old enough to remmeber when passbacks were allowed? That was the pre-Premier League equivalent, so it's nothing new.
Ex-Arsenal season ticket holder who stopped going due to the introduction of political agendas not supported by the majority of their core support. Was going since 1952, but it's not the same anymore especially with certain people shoehorned into punditry who spew crap nonstop. Enjoyed and agreed with your analysis.
Pundits drive me made. Mostly ex United and Liverpool players talking partizan crap. 90 minutes of football, 90 hours of talking bollox around it.
thanks my friend,youve obviously seen a lot of change since 1952, most of it im guessing for the worse
@@matthewcoombs3282 Cloughie was giving the pundits hell in the late 70s. Imagine him around now.
@@matthewcoombs3282Broan Clough told them about too much chat
I miss standing on The North Bank so much.
I have started to watch "The Match" on you tube. 45 mins of football from the first Division late 60s , 70s and 80s. No diving, 100% commitment , . Proper football. Modern football is just polished.
now that is what i call proper football
@@markomahony5004 you don't mean 'the Big Match' ? that was shown on Sunday afternoon's ( in the London area) & had a London game & picks from a couple of other areas 'Granada' ,'Yorkshire TV ' , 'Anglia' etc & covered diffent divisions ,with the ever reliable Brian Moore ( why do programmes now think they have to have former players presenting when they're not as good as Des Lynham, D .Coleman , & those that were former players Jimmy Hill , Bob Wilson didn't go on all the time about their bloody careers !)
@@andchat6241 Your bringing back memories of when my Parents were alive and we had Sunday lunch together watching this..I really stopped loving the game at the end of the 1990s...
Yeah, watched a few of them myself. Some were more of a mud fight than football, but the enthusiasm and determination of the players in difficult conditions definitely created entertainment.
Amen to that.
Fully agree. Didn’t miss MOTD for about 20 years from 1995-2015, honestly can’t remember the last time i watched it since then. Pundits are boring (other than Roy Keane), The EPL is so tedious, it’s a complete snoozefest. I, like you, have started watching Semi Professional football as it’s still realistic. Teams are too scared to lose now rather than go all out for the win.
spot on mate
Sleeping pills listens to roy Keane to fall asleep.
Take me back to The Premier League when it was called The First Division .
ten million per cent fella
With 22 teams.
Not convinced. I loved the old 1St Div of the 70s Leeds, Chelsea, Arsenal going up Man U going down, the muddy pitches and the violent fans, it was a great time. But, things move on. Now we have players with the same skills but more fit, far better pitches and hardly ever any fights. I loved the old days. but you know what.....I love the new days as well.
Mate I'm a 51 year old liverpool fan and totally agree with you...greedy players who go down if a blade of grass flicks them rolling around crying.....
New stadiums get football tourists watching games through their phones.....
Saw sky 1992 league review happier times and Grays voice and dark muddy games of players not millionaires who will run through brick walls to win...
totally agree mate, so many factors like the ones you have mentioned have had a negative effect
@@FootballTheDadstalk like you said mate money and greed...
Tell you the phase I've come to really hate.... generational wealth for their families....excuses for all decisions that upsets fans....
Working class fans who struggle to buy food hear homes....but they worry about ancestors being wealthy....
Almost every PL club has a new ground build since about 2000. Even the crap teams that weren't even in the top 2 flights at the birth of PL.
It peaked late 90s early 2000s imo. You watch games from then now and think, ooh that’ll be a yellow, and it not even given as a foul and the tackled player just gets up and carries on.
Man City are a real life version of someone playing champ manager with a cheat on.
VAR was the last straw
@@Chris-ju9tq one of my fave comments, love it
@@FootballTheDadstalk mine too, excellent comment.
Today with slightest bit of contact a players go to ground as if they've been shot.
VAR took away the controversy which was always a big part of the game. All fans can do now is talk about the colour of the away teams kit down the pub.
@@horace9341 Even though it hasn't since controversial decisions still occur. Tech is useless if the people using it are corrupt. It's a human issue, not a tech issue.
Everton fan here, agree with pretty much most of what you’ve said 💙 No grit, personality, passion, poor officiating, too much money, corruption, media bias. My club has suffered so much.
your club is an absolute giant in this country, unfortunately people have drained it and its sad to see. As much as your new stadium looks nice Goodison is amazing
I remember the protests against outside Goodison back in the day. Amazingly, we were one of the clubs that pushed for it, and then sat on our hands while ever other club over took us .
Pre Sky Everton part of the Big 5 who alongbwith Man Utd. Spurs Arsenal. Liverpool got 75% of the TV money
Hopefully Everton won’t go down the route of Bolton, Derby County and Sunderland after they changed their stadiums.
@@Toffee-Nug78 I went to goodison Park a three times in mid late eighties ,it was the best away trip to watch united, pisses on Liverpools so called famous atmosphere back in the day 👍
West Ham fan here, miss Upton Park. Agree 100% with you.
@@robertbalcombe3563 hi Robert ,feel.
So sorry for you hammers going from the Boleyn to there,absolute crime
Upton was fantastic
Fellow Hammer here, I miss Upton Park too. It had real atmosphere, so different to what we have now.
@@robertbalcombe3563 amazing place mate
@@colinwhitelock8666 feel sorry for you guys mate
For once I have to agree with an Arsenal fan. I used to go to White Hart Lane, loved it. I’m glad I live in Australia now, a good excuse for not going anymore. VAR is the final nail in the coffin.
rivals agreeing , high five mate
VAR is ridiculous & dumb and killed the game, it literally is not needed at all.
@@tonycaniggia yep just pads the games with unnecessary drama
I fucked it off a few years back. Done with an heavy heart, I'd just had enough of ludicrous ticket prices, shit sanitized atmospheres and silly kick off days and times to accommodate Sky and TNT sport's. Manchester city fan of 40 years. RIP Maine Road 2003
Fair play mate
@@FootballTheDadstalk Type in you tube State of Football, Death of a Game, Birth of a Monster. Watch It!!! bring a tear to your eye.
I'm a Blue too mate. Everyone is commenting from the heart on here. I no longer go. Went to the 'new' place about half a dozen times, the last about 2012. I often dream about Maine Road, my spiritual home, and that final day when the whole pitch was covered in blue at the end...what memories..
Never thought that I would agree with a bitter , but here I am !
@@ianbanks2844 lol don't you go anymore?? From Bertie Magoo the bitter blue lol
Far to many foreign players,so many of our young players have been discarded for a quick fix African players.
@@TA-ii5se totally agree
Yeah, way too many black players. You'd think Forest was an ACON team
The amount of non-whites, is a mirror image of British society. One has to reflect the other. Research the K@lergi Plan and you will see exactly what I mean.
@ So in other words, you’re a garbage racist.
Because english players get overpriced based on ridiculous hype.
I prefer watching the big match videos from 1970s to the shite from the premier league
me too mate,muddy pitches,wingers dribbling and defenders smashing players up in the air
Real men playing the game how it should be played! I miss proper football...I miss getting excited about a upcoming match.
Im older than you and i like both. The subtleties of playersd skills are more pronounced in both eras.
Spurs fan. Aint been 15 years and never going again. Agree with everything you’ve said 100%. It’s not football it’s a global multi billion pound business, corporate entertainment for wealthy middle class people and tourists. And they’re not footballers they’re multi-millionaire celebrities motivated by money and greed. It will only get worse. Working man’s game, gone forever, average working man can’t afford to go!
spot on my friend,
@@FootballTheDadstalk
Your backdrop caught my eye. I’ve had an Ajax season ticket since 2012 which incidentally cost me £250 (it went up this season!) I go with my pal who’s a West Ham fan, another member of the club thats kicked the premier league into touch. We’re both retired and its a hobby that we really enjoy Obviously we can’t go every week but football over there is a much more authentic working class experience.
@@DavidBattram now I'm jealous mate , I fell in love with Cruyff,Ajax and the Netherlands national team at age 7/8 . And still fans of all to this day. Have a looks the video an Englishman who supports the Netherlands I did
Will do mate. I feel exactly same as you and like you my interest was initially triggered by the 74 world cup and that great Ajax side.
@@DavidBattram do you ever rent your tiks out for Ajax games?
I'm only 6 mins in, but I have to comment now. You're absolutely spot on, mate! Especially what you say about wingers; I'm a long suffering Everton fan, but I had the pleasure of watching Andrei Kanchelskis week in week out in his pomp - my God! What a winger he was! Don't see wingers like him anymore!
thanks my friend
Agreed. I loved Andrei at united. So sad that he left. What an exciting player to watch.
He was brilliant mate!
I'm an Aberdeen supporter and you mentioned the scottish league. We're now approaching 40 years since a non old firm club won the title, celtic and rangers always dominated but that has never happened in the history of our game. The 80's were a golden period for scottish football, aberdeen won the league 3 times, dundee united won it once. Aberdeen won the cup winners cup and dundee united reached the UEFA cup final. Money has killed the game theres absolutely no chance for teams who dont play in a top 5 league now. Couldn't agree more that football is becoming rigid and the individuality is gone from the game
@@afcjonny1 on the plus side ur boys have started brilliantly this season,would love to see them topple the old firm
To be fair tho Aberdeen did have Sir Alex Fergison at the time as a Liverpool Supporter i wish he'd been sh ;')
I'm only 6 mins in, but I have to comment now. You're absolutely spot on, mate! Especially what you say about wingers; I'm a long suffering Everton fan, but I had the pleasure of watching Andrei Kanchelskis week in week out in his pomp - my God! What a winger he was! Don't see wingers like him anymore!
@@FerminTrujilloEspetero Well you do but they play wing back like Andy Robinson like him or not he plays the whole wing and whips in crosses (Used to) its an evolved possion getting 1 man to play in 2
If it can help I can bring a story from Norwegian football. We had Rosenborg BK winning every year from 1991 to 2004. 13 consecutive titles. How we hated them. After that they were a bit up and down but never worse than 5th spot. In last 4-5 years that have been thrown out of the top positions. Although the last sign is they might be back at top 3 next year.
Point is that it is possible for the mighty, rich clubs to fall from grace. In the case of Celtic I really hope so. Most things are wrong with that club. My favorite team beat them twice in last year's Cl though. Old firm dominance is not good. It looks like Aberdeen has a good team now though.
In 92 when I finished my paper round on a Sunday I used to watch football Italia , I thought it was boring as hell then . Its what we have now
it is mate
Serie A back then was probably the strongest hardest league to win ever though yer right lot of the games were boring😭😄🤣🤣🤣
@@willleon9165 I'm surprised you don't all know SERIE A was boring back then because is was rigged with match fixing-the mafia ran the show! 0-0 1-1 games and the odd 3-0, but mainly it was just 1-1 and 0-0....it's kinad known that it was all rigged....everyone who watch serie A in the 90's knew something didn't add up..!
@@cauliflourhead That George Weah running the full length of the pitch to score THAT goal was well iffy?
It's not what you have for the most part lol
Back then Serie A was packed with stars through the whole league. There almost no star players in the epl nowadays. A few in the top sides, nothing below.
Serie A was also fiercely competitive. The epl is the exact opposite ... despite the marketing men somehow convincing the dopes that are watching otherwise.
I agree completely with you mate... I've lost complete interest in Football.
Overpaid, cheating, diving and now a game full of tarts.
Teams including international teams all play the same... Italy used to be defensive, Brazil full of flair and off the cuff... teams used to have an individual identity.
Players just have to be athletes these days and don't need much skill or even have a football brain
i was saying exactly the same to a mate earlier, they are athletes first
@@FootballTheDadstalk Something else - & I'm not Xenophobic or racist but if I go to watch 'my team' I want to see some local players In there (Doesn't matter what colour they are) .
But most people shown a squad ,who they'd played for ,where they are from wouldn't be able to guess which team they are .
Clubs are always making a big thing of their importance to 'the community ' . What could be more important than local players with some talent thinking 'I've got a chance to play for my local team' ?
@@andchat6241 yeah i totally get that mate , cant beat a local lad playing at his local club . Maybe these clubs need to make sure there is a certain pathway to the first team,i know a lot of lower league clubs dont even have academies where they can nurture them
@@FootballTheDadstalk yes that's true about what used to be the grass roots, largely because the academy's have to fit so many criteria so unless they can guarantee 2or 3 good players each season its an expensive risk ..
@@spendover if you get a chance watch some of the Brazilian matches from '74 World Cup- they were like an 'International Leeds utd' ...but you're right mostly teams had their identity- even a poor German team were organised & professional ,for some reason Argentina were really boring ( though they had good players)
FINALLY a football channel with a backbone, instant sub
u legend thanks mate
The pitches don’t help. They are part artificial and that means tackles and rough play has been essentially outlawed. Skill used to have be paired with courage and bravery. Today, they roll around like girls in a playground.
Pep’s team couldn’t play this way in the 1990’s. Underdog teams like Wimbledon would push them off their stride. It’s removed the depth from the game.
couldnt have put it better myself
I can't stand the Premier League and detest the Champions League, non league football is where it's at for me.
same here now mate
The Premier League along with the Champions League killed football. Also, I used to love the FA Cup, but I don't bother watching it now that it's been so devalued. I support Ipswich and I'm sure the powers that be don't want us in the Prem. You're so right about the corruption, VAR opens the way for it. You're like my mate, he's an Arsenal supporter, but he goes to watch Chelmsford City now.
so true mate ,great post
Championship is a better league, anyone can beat anyone and no var
spot on fella
@@hazharibo7439 I agree, except that I see little point in some teams gaining promotion. Aston Villa and Nottinghsm Forest have bucked the trend in recent seasons (after struggling initially), but most of the promoted clubs really struggle in the first season (or two) in the PL.
Last season was a particularly bitter pill for Leeds fans to swallow, being easily one of the best 3 teams (beating Leicester and Ipswich twice) and then finishing third but (predictably) missing out in the play off final. Six months later, a lot of us will be happier to be sitting second in the Championship while Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton have just 3 or 4 wins between them with more than a quarter of the PL season played.
I just wonder, is there much point in clubs like Burnley and Sheffield United getting promoted back to the PL, unless they suddenly get a massive cash injection? Sheffeld United in particular were rock bottom and cast adrift for virtually the whole of their last 2 seasons in the PL. It would be interesting if the season ticket holders of the top 3 Championship clubs were allowed a vote at the end of the season. Question being:
Do you want to go into the PL or have another season in the Championship?
@@portcullis5622 Yeah the only reason would be for the money really. Anything else is pointless with the current state of things. I mean Ipswich only just got their first win and faced a load of shite decisions from the ref both for and against.
Reminds me of current formula 1, stale, unimaginative, desolate, shite, humdrum, corrupt etc.
@@portcullis5622same with leeds really they never last long once promoted
@@SheffieldSteve791
Not actually the case though, is it?
Promoted back to 1st Division (after an 8 year gap) in 1990. Won the 1st Division Championship in 1992.
Relegated from PL in 2004 (14 years).
Promoted back to PL in 2020.
Relegated in 2023. (3 seasons)
So two promotions and relegations to and from top flight in 34 years. 17 of those years in the top division.
Well said mate! Agree with everything you said! What I hate is that all types of records in football only go back as far as when the premier league started and they don’t take anything of the records in to account what happened in the whole history of football, football did not start when the premier league was formed
@@ETIKUT99 exactly mate, some people forget it didn't start in 92. Give me proper legends like Brian clough getting forest promoted and winning top division followed by two European cup all day Long
@@FootballTheDadstalk your right there, plus football felt a lot more local back then, they represented the actual town they were based in, give it another 10 years and I’m sure just like the NFL, premier league clubs will be able to move towns.
@@FootballTheDadstalk also I’ll be meeting Emmanuel Petit tomorrow, I’ll ask him what he thinks of the current state of the premier league, I don’t think he’s on the Arsenal payroll so he should be honest with me
@@ETIKUT99 spot on
@@ETIKUT99 legend, be nice to hear a genuine opinion .won't get one from the ex players on sky they're told what to say
Would love to go back to the time when a foreigner in a team was a novelty,,when the FA cup was a massive game
you and me both mate
it is man United are back to the days when they won the FA Cup it was a good season
Too many foreigners in the league as well. Teams should be made up of local players.
should have a certain amount that have to be local
Correct. It's our World Select v your World Select. When you think about it, what is the point of supporting that? It's Kerry Packer-style football...
We live in a hyper-globalised social media driven world now. It's here to stay. It's no use hoping we'll go back to the 1950's or 60's. That ain't going to happen.
In IPL (Cricket), there is a quota where you need to have 7 Indian player and 4 foreign player.
@@johnturner1073 Our Africans are better than your Africans!
100% agree , I still watch my team (Forest) each week but never watch any other games
for me tho mate Forest are still one of the classy clubs
A few years back most 'football fans' ( like myself) took an interest in all the teams & how they did , & hoping they'd get out what they put in - a Cup Victory, a run in Europe, occasionally being at the top . But fans of a particular club can live in an artificial bubble that just covers 'their team' & nothing else & no interest in what other teams are doing .
Scientific Footy will always look dry as fuck. No soul...players caught playing for their own stats. Mate, you know what is? No fouling anymore, no combat. Real men have been swapped out for statistical ballet dancer athletes.
too right mate,stats robots
I started watching in 98 and i miss the early 2000s football era
that was a great time,whos your team mate?
The nail in the coffin for me was all the BLM kneeling garbage in 2020, and now they're inserting women into the pre/after match discussions just for the sake of it, and don't get me started on "Boring boring VAR, boring VAR" ha ha
@@MrCheswickMusic spot on mate
@@FootballTheDadstalk My final moan is the shaking hands pre match crap, no, sod that, I wanna see opposing players getting their nuts squeezed being told "I'll see you after the game son" not laughing & joking with the opposition
All in good spirit of the game though, shake hands AFTER the game not before if you know what I mean?
I could go on with more, but if I do, it may turn into a book ha ha
@@MrCheswickMusic mate don't get me started on that,all cuddling I'm the tunnel FFS , get out there kick the shit out of eachother ,shake hands after and get home
@@FootballTheDadstalk Proper
Women play-by-play announcers are appalling. An instant channel changer.
Too much money. Too many nonces. British football used to be a style of play; hard tackling, hard work, no rolling around like a prick after a challenge. Not worth the money lad. Great video.
@@tonyhenderson5188 cheers fella
Agreed been out of it for years it’s a middle class tossers game now
big time mate
Stood on The Kop in the 70s and 80s and went to 100s of away games, atmosphere and football was brilliant. Now it's just a huge commercial scam full of corruption. Good honest content, keep it up.
sad times now mate
'Where were you at Billy Graham'?
Gone are the days when you had exciting players like, Best, Bowles, Worthington, Currie, George, Marsh, Hudson, etc ...
mate theres some legends there
…….Brooking, Brady, Hoddle, Keegan, Coppell - it could be a very long list!
Read Rob Steen's 'The Mavericks'. Required reading
There's clearly a problem with modern football, cos more and more folk are bashing it. So right about being obsessed with Statistics for a start.
cheers mate
i watch the big match revisited and another show i believe is called match day or something on itv4
feather cuts , tiny too tight shorts , boots in any colour as long as its black
great football played on pitches that resemble the Somme
liam brady , frank Worthington stan bowls , ricky villa , proepr football with hard tackles
the only reason they took the knee was because kenny samson had cracked them in the clacker bag
magic days mate
Take me back to when English football had English players 🏴 and didn't resemble the UN league
spot on
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@@EmpiricalMind 👍
I hope by English don't mean white
And English managers
Embarrassing how they fall down when when everyone in the ground can CLEARLY see they've not been touched
and they know the cameras can see em, plonkers
Completely agree mate. I am scottish and have watched the old firm bore the league to death all my life, with the only blip in their dominance being Aberdeen and Dundee United in the 80's.
The foreign players, cheating, defenders not being able to tackle, commentators stating, I think there was contact. Yeah it is a contact sport. And the final nail in the coffin, being VAR, 20 minutes to review a dive and still giving the penalty. Clown world.
I now watch Scottish Junior football, which is effectively semi-pro in England. Full on challenges, no diving, banter in the crowd.
Any time I watch SPL or EPL, I lose interest about 10 minutes in, after yet more non-entities diving and no one playing for the badge, too busy doing their hair and wearing the brightest coloured boots, tedious.
give me that scottish junior football all day long
Excellent unfiltered thoughts, and expressing what many of us think. Top job mate.
@@tantona9315 legend,thanks so much
I didn't think anyone else believed what I believed, but you're saying what I've been thinking for years.
theres loads of us mate
Go and watch lower league football. Far more entertaining
i do mate , me and my two boys have season tickets at Dagenham now, love it over there.real football and real people.not a give me your shirt sign in sight
100% correct, sir .
I've been catching a lot of non-league and foreign league as well as amateur football on TH-cam myself, and indeed have shifted to that to get my baseball fix as well. And the Game is far more satisfying at those levels than in the "bigs". The leagues are less predictable, are not plastic commercial spectacles, they're played in smaller and I think more psychologically healthy venues with friendlier crowds, they're cheaper, and the standard of play is most acceptable. I know here in America I've found far more satisfaction with the lower leagues and their stadiums than I did with the big pro leagues. My mother had a saying: "a big size uses up too much" and she was right. At the top pro levels the Game has become all about money and nothing but money and everything else is being sacrificed to that imperative. Using up too much. I would agree. Lower league is better all around -- maybe not in the top professional standards as those are currently defined, but in every other way that counts for the true fan.
@@LordZontar spot on mate, I think at those lower levels you can genuinely see the passion ,the love for the game from players and supporters too
I moved up North 10-years & support the local non league team, Gainsborough Trinity FC & it’s proper grass roots football, proper defenders & strikers who don’t roll a round for half hours 😂👍
Technology is killing many things. Including football
totally agree mate
Exiled Everton fan here. Born in Liverpool in 54. You are spot on here fella. I was a regular match goer until Roberto Martinez was the manager. Travelled up from Hampshire most weeks, travelled away to most places with the lads. I was watching us beat Aston Villa at Goodison Park and I thought why am I doing this, it was shite to watch. Side to side and backwards. Started going to Eastleigh who had just been promoted to the Nat League. Much better match experience all round. Now living in Lincolnshire and watch the UCL Premier division north. I call it honest football, the players give everything. £5 (old man price) to get in and you can have a pint on the sideline. Cant watch England now, I find it so boring to watch.
fair play mate, love the fact your are still watching the game at some level,and i bet its proper football too
So glad I'm not the only one! I'd started thinking recently that every game was like a game of chess. The games feel soul less, players scared of injury, every tackle results in them being on the floor looking for a free kick or penalty.
mate i thought i was alone in thinking this and wasnt even going to post this video incase i got pelters lol. Look down the comments so many of us are sick of it
@FootballTheDadstalk Crazy, it's become so stale over time, almost in the same way music has. Soul less, clean, polished. Football is almost non contact, I noticed a lot of goals only come from mistakes or things like deflections which lead to situations that can't be prepared for. As for the bias commentary I've also noticed that too, always neville and Keane on man u games. Employing people like carragher who spit at kids and firing people like Matt Le Tissier. Sums it up
One correction about anyone can beat anyone in the championship. I’m a QPR fan and we can’t beat fucking anybody , even if they play with 10 men 😂
fair play lmao
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I'm a Millwall supporter and feel much the same most seasons. 😂
@@Lexington125 😂😳😩
Spot on, agree with all you have said, I've turned my back on the Game, Political agendas, VAR players being payed 200k a week,100 million on some players, its not for me anymore ..
feeling the same way as so many mate
I hate it so much I couldn't even watch all your video as it would set me off. I was a regular in the 1980s (Liverpool) and I could see the way the game was headed in the 1990s but I never thought it would be as bad as this. I agree with you 100%. I still get a buzz out of the 1970s and 1980s footy, the style, the skill , the personalities and the crowd. I hate the tiki taka / Guardiola style. He is OCD. OCD football. In January 1984 we (Liverpool) took 700 to Sheffield for a midweek league cup game in the snow. The CL final against Spurs in 2019..... 5,000 Liverpool fans converged in Washington DC alone . It's a completely different world and game now and it will never go back. Global fans will always roll up to watch and buy tickets especially younger generations who do not know any better. Once you went in the 1980s, everything pales into insignificance. I also miss the days when teams generally had the same players year on year. Now I don't even know the names of the players. The turnover is constant. Global bankers came into British football and ruined it.
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The football is crap, possession based and too much own half tippy happy shite. I am a Saints fan, it is awful with no end result, it was fun in the Championship with no VAR. It is a good old honest league, lots of goals, closer games and apart from us, limited tippy tappy.
bang on matey
what do you mean by "good old honest league", exactly?
@LorenzoMinaccia The league has become more like the globalist Monopoly playing out in day to day living. The top teams have become stronger at a time when powerful owners were able to spend hundreds of millions on teams before FFP became a thing, it is much harder for the majority of teams to compete, so it is far from a level playing field, which it used to be back in the 70s and 80s. The Championship is a league that is more competitive, more honest and more exciting, although the possession based game is even being introduced there. The Premier League was good in the 90s, but has steadily become soulless.
@ makes sense, mate. I agree.
Wolves fan and former season ticket holder for 20 years on and off. Gave it up during Covid, that was the first season of VAR and had already lost my passion for going when I first celebrated a goal that was eventually ruled out. Never celebrated the same again. Not paying nearly a grand a year for that experience. Take me back to the 90s and early 00s any day, we were shit back then but I loved going with my old man.
same here mate making memories with me old man was massive for me
Spot on mate, too much money and corruption, and don't even get me started on VAR. There is no consistency in refereeing either.
cheers fella
Everything you have said from the beginning to the end is absolutely spot on everythink mate. I'm an Arsenal season ticket holder had one since 1984 been going since 1971 aged 9 mainly in the clockend back then. (miss Highbury so much) My point is I had to have an heart procedure the other week so I had to miss 3 games my son had one off the games but the other 2 my seat was empty. Now I've been warned if I miss one more match this season my ticket will be taken from me next season. Going back to what you said they don't care about the real fans it's all about money 😡(sorry to go on a bit)
That’s disgusting, if you pay for the season ticket it’s up to you if you go.
disgrace, and the Arsenal used to ooze class
@@FootballTheDadstalk a long time ago mate, times have changed for the worse 😤
@FootballTheDadstalk oh yeah , and when was that ? Must of been a long long time ago. No , Arsenal have never had true " class " , just an overvalued estimation of themselves and a very predatory nature e.g. they have always been really greedy and exploitative . I can remember being disgusting at the prices they charged for a pint 30 years ago when I watched my team , Manchester United , play at Highbury .
A seat which has been paid for but sits empty won't generate matchday sales {food and merchandise etc}, this is what they want, more money. Greed no loyalty.
Rose tinted glasses.
Try watching a game in full from 1990 with the old offside law and constant (yes constant!) back passing.
The current PL seems boring because there’s too much of it on television.
@@peterreid9769 lol rose tinted glasses ,I just know what I prefer and it's my opinion. The whole experience not just the game mate . Bigger picture . If u prefer the football now that's up to you mate football is all about opinions
@@peterreid9769 on the other hand try watching a game from 1990 with the likes of John Barnes,Gazza,anders Limpar,David Rocastle amongst multiple others taking on 3/4 players at a time.pros and cons mate .hardmen,characters everywhere u looked.
Not one English manager has led a team to win the premier league thats over 30 years what a joke.
crazy mate
Last English manager to win the league ( not premier ) Leeds United with Howard Wilkinson, unbelievable!
You are 100% right with all your views. I’ve always thought the league cup should incorporate Scottish sides , this would be miles better , like the old Anglo Scottish cup !
Living in japan and watching football without VAR and with players playing with individuality and stadiums with actually class atmospheres was just unreal, reminded me of going to games in the 90s
@@Cyber_Jar23 I'd rather fly to Japan these days than go to a premier league game mate
I'm sure the top league has var in Japan ?? Hope imn wrong
The atmosphere is always going to be better when the fans have showed up to support their own people. It's hard to get enthused over a pack of mercenary foreigners.
My Leeds were the last ever Champions of England to be crowned First Division winners 1992, after being promoted in 1990.
great side u had.
Managerialism at every level mate. Your analysis applies to whole society.
agreed
Think the Bosman ruling started the decline. Nothing against the top foreign footballers playing here but filling sides with bang average players over giving our own prospects a chance just seems wrong. Add into that VAR dragging out games, ridiculous high wages and needing a billionaire owner to challenge at the top its a sad decline and unlikely to ever be reversed
absolutely bang on
@@gatsbygoodwood2575 million percent , they're never gonna let the happen again mate
Once upon a time I was a football nut. If you said to me 20 years ago that I wouldn't bother watching MOTD or whatever, I would have bet anything against that happening. I literally cannot be asked with it. It's as though the players have been cloned and are running on computer instructions. Lemmings. I just don't care for the players. Players in the 90's were ...humans.Players' agent's have dossiers on their players with stats which help them with their market value. That's why they'd rather play a safe boring pass which is successful than to risk not completing a defence splitting through ball. Yawn.
Yeah...I'm three quarters of the way to jibbing football off entirely. It's cack now.
feel so much like you do mate
@@TheShipsCat-ef6yw so many feel the same way mate, doing this video has really opened my eyes up with the response and how so many are feeling the same
@@FootballTheDadstalk - Aye. It's reached a new low in recent years. I think I could probably live without it.
I remember Crouch saying he’s seen players sprinting to the corner to take one, to get their sprint stats up
You are spot. I'm a West Ham who started going to watch them aged 17, in 1990. I'm glad because it meant I was able to stand on the Northbank terraces, befoire it became all seater.
i wholeheartedly agree wit you about the half and half scarves. Why the fuck would i want a scarf that is half the other teams colours
And this EG, expected goals bollocks really grinds my gears. you can tell that the pundits who talk about EG think that it makes them seem knowledgable.
And VAR has runied the best part of t he match, when your team scores. I do still go up to West Ham and wen we score, it isn't as euphoric because I know that even after the ref is ok with the goal, the VAR people may overturn it
im local and a lot of my mates are west ham mate, they say the same thing about being able to go in the terraces at upton park,special place
When football was just great fun.....Chicken Run Season Ticket,Pie n Mash (Double Double) and a pint of Fosters...Irons Travel Club member from age of 12 travelling on football specials all over the country.....all paid for out of my paper round money!!! So glad i'm nearly 56 and grew up before the money men took over our game.
Great channel mate.
@@HammerHealedCD thanks my friend,west ham proper club ,sommany of my mates are hammers. Loads of liquor on that pie n mash fella
Premiership football is terribly boring and predicable. Players are motovited by money without commitment of dedication
spot on
Watford fan here. So much happier in the second tier. Why? Because fans are there to genuinely care about one of the two teams on the pitch. In the Prem, so many tourists, fair weather fans, etc and impossible to get a ticket for certain games. I was also fed up of seeing my club sell its soul to keep up with corporate requirements.
This season, we got to the 3rd round of the League Cup. Top 6 were guaranteed to not play each other and top 4 had their game at home. So guess what, we got Man City away. Played well (considering we sent our reserves) and lost 2-1, with a perfectly good goal chalked off. Corruption is the word.
My dream season: win the league (second tier), win the FA Cup, then stay in the second tier.
@@sgu02nsc66 spot on . U feel the same as so many others pal
At last someone talking sense it's so formulaic and all records are only since the Premier league it's as if there wasn't football before
mate football began in 92,surely u know that lol
I love it dude! I'm a 53 year old arsenal fan and you totally echo my thoughts about their style of play. It's robotic and predictable. I actually watch more old footy on TH-cam than prem games today. It's way more enjoyable, even if I know the result. It's so refreshing to see a game from the nineties officiated by a ref and two linesman and no poxy VAR slowing the game down and still getting decisions spectacularly wrong. Great rant bro. It's great to hear someone moaning about the same stuff as me!! I also just happen to be wearing a Dutch national shirt at the moment.... amazing coincidence!!!
@@deandouglas839 u my friend as a fellow Gooner,withe that same thoughts,wearing a Dutch shirt are a legend. Massively appreciate you watching and taking the time to respond.
@@FootballTheDadstalk God bless ya! Keep up the good work bruv 👍 SUBSCRIBED!!!!!!
@@deandouglas839 top man appreciate it ,legend
I’m the same watch old games on TH-cam , love it can’t be bothered watching football today .
I walked away about 5 years ago. I ain't looked back its easy and don't miss it one bit.
fair play
Give me 4-4-2 with a traditional number 10 and fight fire with fire
all day long mate
No one takes a shot no more! What a football season now when I'd be happy to finish 17th ffs! Portman Rd still a 8 min walk from the train station. Lots of fans like this. The gap is so huge now from the Championship. I still think we'll be OK, but after watching the last 2 seasons winning every week, this is a hard watch. 🔵⚪️
Hi mate, ive had a few say they got to the premier league and it isnt what they hoped, whats your thoughts?ive even had someone say hope we go down and play at proper grounds again
Mate your first 30 seconds got me in .Excellent video. I was having this EXACT convo the other day about Rugby League and to a certain degree Tennis and i think all sports have become too Mechanized . That is the word that kept popping up - mechanized . It is all about minimizing risk because when you think about it really - All professional sporting teams, whether it is Premier League , Rugby League , Aussie Rules etc are nothing more than business corporations that compete against one another on a field of green grass.
You end up with sterile and predictable play the same way if you buy a Big Mac from one county to another there is a fair chance it's going to taste pretty much the same . Cheers .
top post,cheers
Strange how just about everything that used to happen is better than what happens now. No such word as progress,only change and usually for the worst.
@@marcholbeck3286 totally agree my friend
Football died in 92
@@mikeydol12 the higher level defo,the lower leagues are thriving
Leeds Utd the last true Champions
Liked it in 1996 where you couldn't field a team of more than 4 non British players
Football died when Brian clough retired 😩
@johnross2924 what a Legend
Great video. Couldn’t agree more.
Only thing I’d contest with is this: Nottingham Forest. They look like they may just be this season’s surprise.
Aston Villa have also been enjoyable to watch.
As an Argie I’m admittedly biased with this, but Garnacho’s one of the few who’ll run at guys in the prem. He’s no Ronaldo but at least he tries. They’re a dying breed now, just like the pure number 10.
I think the romantic football we geezers love will die with Messi’s and Ronaldo’s retirement.
Only player who gets me hyped to watch the prem is Cole Palmer. He’s a beauty.
thanks mate, ive done a video since and mentioned Forest ,love seeing em do well. The Utd boys who do this with me love Garnacho,so much potential
@ I think we’re a bit similar, mate. I’m 41.
You’ve got a new subscriber in me.
Grew up idolizing guys like Gabriel Batistuta, Paulo Maldini, Brazilian Ronaldo, etc. A different time. The game was both brutal and breathtakingly beautiful.
Never thought I’d say it but I miss the days of Roy Keane just laying someone out.
Today’s football lacks that oomph. Too much money. Too much corporate influence. It got too shiny.
Football’s been neutered by politics, too. But I won’t get into that.
I agree with you that the over implementation of statistical analyses and science in general is destroying the game.
A lot of coaches have made it too mechanical with their tactics, too. These guys aren’t robots. Some of them are creative. Let them go out there and create.
Needs to go back to being a balance of brutality, art and sheer theatre.
@Men_of_Tomorrow thanks mate massively appreciate it,we defo have the same outlook . I'm actually just uploading a follow up to this vid now.
Wont be long before games are played abroad
matter of time mate i agree
💯they will play in the US soon.
@@15harry1561 well that would be better than in Saudi Arabia! .
The simple truth is from the owners/investors/leeches ,managers & his assistants, sponsors ,players & Kick Off times the top divisions in England does not represent 'English football' - I'm not being xenophobic ,it's the same as when I've watched matches in Spain or Italy- I want to see something that represents their culture , not just more of a similar 'product' .
Oh yeah I'm waiting for that America or the middle East
Already started in Spain .. I used to go to United back in the 80s - OMG the atmosphere.. and hard players.. I loved it. Now everyone trying to play the pep way and it’s it’s awful! We have a winger in Garnacho and they are already trying to stop him driving forward .. you can jsut see where it’s going. VAR is killing our game. We will be sold abroad within 5 years 😢
Can’t stand the tippy tappy football, I miss direct counter attacking football. Georgia in the euros were a great throw back, so good to watch.
Stats is one thing but the main thing is money. All about money.
totally agree mate
It’s dog shit mate … Arsenal fan, was truly ecstatic when we won and felt sick when we lost. Couldn’t give two shits now, it’s like ‘whatever’.
Short but perfectly put, i dont think its as good as dog shit tbh geezer
Great video...I prefer the old school British style of football but for me the football is secondary I can put up with any style of play as long as you get a buzz going to the stadium.. I don't feel that primal buzz and excitement going to these sterile over regulated stadiums anymore..
Was just watching Man City vs Man Utd 1989 on TH-cam and it's a completely different world back then within the first minute theres aggro on the terraces the stadium full of 40k Englishmen of fighting age..truth is that sense of danger was a major part of why we loved going to football
This modern football culture is not the football culture we all fell in love with it's only being propped up because people from the previous era are loyal but if fans aren't getting anything out of watching football and they're not getting anything out of going to a stadium and they're paying extortionate prices to be miserable...
I feel a collapse is coming and it can't come soon enough
great post mate
Thank you, some people don't realise football existed pre premier, div 1 to 4, Scottish football had a premier league first in the mid 70s.
spot on fella
Everything you've said is true.
Even to watch the 3 minute highlights is proving to be too much of a chore for me nowadays, nevermind watch a full 90 minutes.
same here mate
Radcliffe at Man.United wants to build a new 100,000 seater stadium to replace Old Trafford,well I suppose you've got to find more space for the tourists.And of course these new stadiums have got to be 'multipurpose', for concerts & other events.Don't know the situation in other countries but I think we are slowly approaching the point where disconnected fans will turn their back on this commercial crap.I live just round the back of Stockport County & let me tell you players & fans give all they've got.The ideal situation will be that grass- roots & lower divisions start to build a new football reality,but how long would it take? Who knows but discussions should start now.Countless fans have wanted to believe things will improve but deep down we all know what's ahead.Support local,plenty of genuine fans there.
@@paulstarr6316 great post mate
You sound like my workmate, who is a Forest fan, blood comes out of his eyes if you mention Pep Guardiola.
I stopped watching England when Southgate took over, I do try to watch the Faroe Islands when I can find them though. What they lack in quality they make up for in grit and effort.
Xg is something they made up for losing managers to use as a shield in post match interviews.
Also young fans are worrying about FFP when they should be thinking about whether their striker scores.
a lot of sense spoken there mate ,southgate another bore fest
It’s like watching a foreign league to me. Too many foreign millionaire players and managing staff has turned me off. Richest wins.
totally agree mate
Absolutely spot on. Get rid of VAR, and bring back the game from the 80s. I remember the classic old games where the players ran around in mud baths. Players wouldn’t even walk on those pitches these days
love to see these players on those pitches
Couldn't agree more, I now watch my local team down in Tier 9, so much more exciting and proper football with hard tackling and a good mix of long balls and passing through the middle. Players decent standard too and can also have a pint on the pitchside 👍
@@jamesredman8065 happy days mate
I agree with all of you! When I read the comments here, I see the proper real football fans. We must rise up and take our football back! PL is shite! Bring back the days when winning the FA-CUP was like winning the world and glory. So what are we gonna do with It?
there needs to be some sort of movement mate
@@FootballTheDadstalk Oi Mate! Yea, we need to wake up and understand that we´re been played and been pissed on. We, the fans need to lay banter and club rivaly besides and unite as one movment and take our football back. I´m old school supporter, I miss the atmosphere, the old game with the real players and the real feelings with proper fans. Us, working people with the passion for our clubs. You got my respect and a new sub mate, I´m a old school Vålerenga and Man. United fan. In Norway, It´s costum to have a local team and an English team. Vålerenga Oslo since birth and United since 1986. Come to Oslo and see Vålerenga some time? The Atmosphere is like England before PL took the piss on us. Have a good one mate!
@@FootballTheDadstalk Forgot to say, United is a shit show today. The Club is fucked, same with Arsenal and the others. Football without real fans is dead....
@vifgull spot on fella
No more Wimbledon story , you'll never see the like of that again
not a chance mate
@FootballTheDadstalk , the only football I watch now is old reruns of the big match revisited
@@007-Dalgleish proper football mate,proper presenters,pundits,pitches,maverick footballers
Spot on. I'd argue this applies to top flight football as a whole. I even found the Euros boring this summer.
the euros was an absolute bore fest
I'm 20 years old, so don't know what it was like before the big money, but you are spot on. Football is becoming infested with nerds and tourists. I was watching the PAOK vs Man United game on the telly a few weeks ago, and, in a massive 70'000+ ground you could hear the PAOK supporters just as well. And this xg nonsense is completely ridiculous.
spot on post
Honestly, I’ve gotten into Ligue 1. My club, Olympique Lyonnais, got their asses beat 4-1 last season by PSG, and after the game, the ultras got on the microphone and demanded that they start playing better. Now, we’re in the top half of the table and we’re playing in the Europa League. Not to mention, their tifos are amazing.
love to get over to france for a game at Marseille or Lyon ,the atmosphere looks fantastic
Spot on mate! Thanks for speaking truth here, this is not only the case for the Premier League unfortunately but also taking more and more ground here in Germany. I loved the PL in the early 2000s, passion, fantastic and pure football, unbelievable atmosphere in classic stadiums which you already pointed out a few. I miss these times and the football back then. It has been a sell out show since these days and I am sick and tired of it as well. Thanks for pointing this out mate, greetings from Germany
well said fella
Manchester city, Arsenal or Liverpool. Who else has a realistic chance to win the title. I watched Chelsea beat Noah 8-0 and hardly knew any of the Chelsea team. TOO MUCH MONEY, that is the REAL problem.
spot on