The Real Trick to Grow Roses from Seed
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- If you'd like to grow roses from seed, a little patience is in order: the seeds take several months to mature from flowers, and most will not germinate unless they're removed them from the fruit and exposed to enough cold and moisture. In this video I'll show you the results of my fall collection of seeds from 'Snow Pavement' (a rugosa hybrid rose) and answer some of the common questions about rearing roses from seed. I'll also discuss some of the fake seedling videos and the photoshopped ebay rose seed listings.
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I watched your rose stratification video back in September, after I had gathered some rose-hips. After many months (April, in fact), I remembered to check my fridge, where I had them planted in small Tupperware containers, and one container had seedlings growing! I was so delighted. I have one tiny baby Iso Easy Italian Ice rose growing, and I couldn’t be more thrilled to watch it grow and see what it produces. Thank you for your guidance.
Thanks Sara - I'm so happy to hear about your success sprouting your new hybrids!
When do you plant them in zone 6b
Thanks!!! as a gardener it gets me angry when some TH-camrs post fake videos and some people actually fall for it….
Thanks to your video, I now have 19 little rose plants!
My friends will be delighted lol
It is what I am worried about-trickery, when I try to look up how to something on roses... your channel seems legit via passion. I watched a couple of your videos now...😊
I can’t imagine someone wanting a purple, green rose. A black on the other hand I would take a double look. Thanks for sharing all your passion & knowledge. 👍❤️😊
I just purchased "black" (dark purple) rose seeds. Came here to figure out how the heck I'm going to grow them 😂 I know NOTHING about growing roses
I gathered hips from wild roses around my friend's cabin and got the seeds to germinate in this way last spring. Now I have 9 plants scattered around the garden, wondering if they might bloom this year! It's so fun.
I did the same with a lone wild rose way up on a chalk hill. I got 11 seedlings but I pitted them outside and the birds got some and the sun did in the others. It was exciting. I’ll take more care next year!
It is the first time I learn about the process of stratification clearly explained. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
My pleasure Mike. Thanks for watching
Thank you very much!!! I've always wondered how to grow roses. Beautiful and super hardy fill your garden with roses!
Excellent content I am learning so much. Your videos are succinct quick and thorough. You’ve put in a lot of work. Definitely the right page. I’m going to follow these steps and when they sprout, certainly supporting this page. Thanks again
Very interesting video. Short and to the point too👌🏼
Thank you so much for these videos that you do the time you take out of your day to make Em thank you very much again.👍👍👍👍✌️
Thanks for the genuine information you give us with your great experience and letting us know the fraud propagation with rose flower base etc.Thank you.
Very informative! Thank you. I bought rose seeds from online..and I’m excited to start growing rose seeds in a few months time.
I’m going to try this next year again with your suggestion cold for about 2 months I did not know about germination thanks I have a climbing rose bush and after 18 years in this house I thought about the seeds, anyway thanks again!
thanks for this load of information in one video.
I followed the instructions in one of your videos in October and a lot of the seeds sprouted ❤ after about two months and a half. Thank you for the knowledge you put out in the world
Wonderful to hear about your success!
So appreciate the video. Very helpful.
I collected seeds randomly from all over NYC. Put some in the fridge in January, left a whole bunch outside.
Got one seedling from outside, Its about 3" and just put it in a one gallon pot over the weekend.
No clue what it is. But its the first time I ever got one to germinate.
Nicely done tho!
Thank you sir for your informative videos about planting rose from seeds. My question was answered. I'll try to propaganate rose from seeds. Wish me luck..😁
Jason, thank you for this information. I have always wondered about the ebay rose seeds and growing roses from seeds period. Your information is always on the mark.
Keep this coming. You're a dependable young man.
Thanks so much.
Awesome video! Thank you so much!
Oh my god! The place you live it’s beautiful!!!
Thanks Rosy!
Well done mate. Another fantastic vid shared to ARE as well.
Thanks Darryl
I wish I would have seen this video before I bought all those different seeds for my wife. She is about to start them so i guess we'll get some surprises next year.
Thank you so much for this video. I am just getting into propagating roses and your channel poped out just at the right time! Cheers from the subtropical part of Australia. My friend got some very old varieties growing and I got a challenge right now! Thank you :)
Thank you, greatly appreciated
Awesome video! You are so right, those rose pictures are so fake is not even funny! So sad that people are out there to rip you off! Thank you for the pointers. ❤🤗
Es muy interesante e importante lo que dices, ya que mucha gente plsnta las semillas y se desepcionan al no ver resultados rápidos, sin saber que las rosas son plantas increíblemente lentas al naser de semillas
Hi Jason, can you please do a video showing how the seedlings look now? Do they often flower its first year? Thank you for the great videos.
They're dormant right now. Yes, I saw a few small flowers in their first season, but should see stronger flowering this year.
Great thank you.
Thank you 😊
Very cool
Thank You
Well... RIP mom. I guess now I gotta learn to keep your garden going. Subscribed cause I already watched a handful of your vidz. Good job
Any advice for growing roses from seeds in tropical climate. I live in soufh Thailand allways hot and currently raining season . Great and interesting videos thank you
Very good info, indeed. Thank you for sharing. When we propagate the roses with the seeds do we need to graft from the mother plant into these young roses, or do they become exactly the same of the mother plant? (For example, most fruits need to be grafted if they are propagated from the seeds, but don't require such operation if they are propagated from the seedlings. On the other hand none of the vegetables require grafting when propagating from the seeds.)
I just want to thank you for sharing your wealth of information. I refer back to your videos constantly throughout the year, as I am pruning, purchasing new roses, fertilizing, etc. and i've finally quit my job to garden full time! I do have one question (well many questions actually but i'll just stick with one) I took a cutting from a rose from the top of a mountain in Granada, Spain, and brought it back with me to Houston TX (It survived!) And put it into a pot of soil in my garden. It took almost a year for me to see any action happening (The cutting was just a twig, very tiny, from the top of the plant, no leaves, and don't worry I asked permission!) I started seeing tiny leaves at the base coming from the ground. Several months later I got another set of leaves, and now i'm here, almost two years in with only rwo sets of leaves coming out of the ground.. So my question is: Is there any reason this rose is sooooo slow to grow? Why are the leaves coming from the ground and not along the cutting? My guess is this is a hybrid tea rose since they seem to be popular in Spain and its been so long now I don't really remember what it looked like to confirm what it might be. (Maybe its a knockout rose) I've seen this slow growth on a few of my other roses, namely rose de rescht which I purchased from High Country Roses, and i'm just wondering if i'm doing something wrong or not giving them the right conditions.
Thanks - well it's always a good idea to revisit your garden and soil conditions. Sometimes a new plant will take some time to work on root development before it pushes a lot of top growth, but two years for a couple sets of leaves does seem too slow. The soil - well drained enough, pH neutral or slightly acidic, friable enough for the roots to push through?
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm the soil is very well draining but I think you’re right, I should test my ph.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm do i have to water the rose seeds when they are in the fridge? and once i move them outside in pot, do i leave them out for the winter take them inside at that time?
Thank you great video. Do the rose seed need to be planted from fresh or can you also plant them if they have dried. Thanks once again for sharing all your information.
Thanks Angela. You can clean, dry and store them for later use if you're not ready to seed right away. I've had 3-yr-old seeds germinate fairly well.
Thank u ❤
Thanks!
Thanks so very much Suzanne. We really appreciate the support.
Hello my friend!👍442
Used promix also👍 had a bunch left over from my marijuana grow
Just found your page . It's fantastic! Thank you . Do you have a list of zone 3 roses by chance? I am on the Minnesota/Ontario border. I have some heritage roses growing on my property that are many decades old from the original homesteaders. I would love to find more of these heritage old cold hardy varieties. Thank you!
Thanks. No, I haven't don't a video on zone 3 roses but I'll put it on the list. In the meanwhile, a good starting point is the Canadian explorer series of roses (John Davis, William Baffin, etc.)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much . I look forward to watching your videos and learning as much as I can.
Thanks Jayson for another fantastic video. Can you please tell me after reporting the seedlings how do you care for them?
With a little bit of early protection, progressively towards the same conditions as other potted or garden plants.
Thank you.
Hey Jason. Are you developing new verities doing this? Found a huge wild rose bush in our woods, was covered with tiny white flowers,last month. Doesn't seem to keep flowering like our others. Is there anything we could try to tame it ? Your place looks awesome.
Thanks Dean. I'll see if I can wrestle some time for deliberate crosses this year. Otherwise it's just collecting hips and seeing what comes out of it. The wild-type roses seem happiest with minimal pruning, but of course you can always shape & manage for health. Sounds like a once-bloomer on old wood.
Hi Jason,
I live in Newport, Vermont, zone 3b right near Lake Memphramagog.
There are many wild roses growing nearby so I am confident the plants will survive this climate.
My question is, growing from seed, when I am putting the seeds through the stratification process, will refrigerator temperatures be enough or should I subject the seeds to some time in the freezer?
Mind, outdoors, especially in late January and early February we will have periods of -20 to -40 degrees Fahrenheit.
If seed in nature are exposed to these temperatures, do I need to mimic that?
Thanks in advance for your advice. Love the videos and your thoughtful, detailed explanation of how to grow roses the correct way.
👨🌾🌹🥀
Thanks William. That's a memorable lake name! Yes, fridge temperatures will be fine for the stratification. No need for freezing.
How cool is that!
How long will seeds stay viable once removed from the hip.
I have some rose seeds but they're getting pretty old...I had no idea about seeds when I picked them, now...I grow lots of things from seed. I would love to grow roses from seed. It would be quite the feather in my cap ;)
Thanks Sue. I've has 3-yr-old dried seeds germinate fairly well, but I'm not sure what the upper limit would be
Thanks Jason. I've managed to get two roses from seeds and I did sow about 50 seeds. I did the stratification method and will try again this year. Trinidad is a tropical island so maybe it's a bit difficult to get the seeds to germinate.
Living here in Hawaii is the same challenge. Try keeping your seeds in the crisper, isolated from the rest of the usable space, also close the vent and keep a thermometer in with the seeds so you can see what temperatures they are in. A big problem with stratifying is maintaining that ideal 2-4C temperature, especially when the refrigerator is being opened and closed all the time. The warm air from outside the refrigerator will constantly change the temperature inside the refrigerator and change the environment of your seeds. The crisper can be controlled by the vent allowing you to reduce how much change happens in that isolated space, just be careful not to keep it too cold because that will also prevent the seeds from sprouting.
Tropical climates are a bit of a challenge for growing colder climate plants.😉
@@gwbuilder5779 I live in tropical Costa Rica and to stratify the seeds in the fridge, putting them in bags on the door. It has worked fine, the seeds sprout after approximately 18 weeks afterwards.
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Interesting.
Do know what temperatures the seeds prefer?
@@gwbuilder5779 around the same Jason described: 2-6°C
@@Coredumpcr
Yes. That is 34-40 degrees Fahrenheit as well..
What type of bags do you use?
Would you put a lid in the tray to keep the moisture even?
I have never grown roses but bought seeds and no luck with germination.
Love your videos, Thank you
While in the cold treatment? Might do. I sometimes stack the trays in the fridge (as you may have seen in the clip) and then occasionally check to make sure the soil isn't drying on the top and edges.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you so much
Great information! Can you do an instructional video on how to create your own rose tree?
Thanks. I'll add it to my list of projects.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you!
That little sprout that I mentioned in my previous comment didn't make it. I don't know if it was too wet, too dry, or just wasn't strong enough. I hope that I get a few more germinations, and can make it to the next stage. I will try again.
Very informative and enlightening! I knew those outlandish roses were fake, but it's interesting to learn that the actual rose seeds may not produce a replica of the parent plant. Using the tray of seedlings shown in the video as an example, how different would each seedling be from each other and the parent plant? Slight differences or very noticeable characteristics? I come from a family of eight kids and none of us look like siblings. My husband's family has very distinct features in his siblings. Half look like his Mom, the other half like his Dad.
For the tray of seedlings in the video they're all collected from 'Snow Pavement', a white-through-mauve colored compact rugosa roses. Some may be self-crossed, but the mother was also grown in a field full of other roses, so no real way to know the pollen parent. I'd anticipate the flowers to be pink or white (like most rugosa hybrids) but beyond that, and I already see some of the characteristic rugged leaf surface. Beyond those guesses, nothing would really surprise me.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks for explaining. I've been gardening for decades but this is my first year of growing roses. I have a lot to learn, I know.
I germinate seeds from one fruit and the roses were different, from pink to orangish in color and from 5 to more than 10 petals, the rose I took the fruit from was red.
Thank you for this information. I live in Jos Nigeria the coldest part of the country, I tried planting some rose seeds that I got from the uk about six years ago but I couldn’t get them to germinate. I still have them and I would like to try your method do you think those old seeds will still germinate?
It's really hard to say without giving them a try
I got some " black roses seeds" as a gift. the changes of that being true is 0 to mone hahah but i will give a try. Thank you very much for your guide.
Just out of curiosity if you put the seed of the freezer instead of the frige will that speed up the process ?
No, it seems like the best temp is still just above freezing.
A lot of native plants in my country require fire to germinate. Plants are weird.
watching this video because I bought a bunch of seeds on amazon, wish I had done it in reverse. My wife read the very negative reviews which were mostly one stars, now watching this I don't even need to read the reviews I got a good idea why. Had I seen this video or read the reviews as she did I may not have bought them or at least had more appropriate expectations. Sad thing is I could of concluded the same info with a little thought.
I live in Saskatchewan which means we have a longer winter - so if I want to do this technique would I put the seeds in the fridge in Oct and check in December and transplant and leave in the house before spring or would it be better to wait until closer to spring?
Unless you're willing to set up lights & maintain indoors, I'd tweak the schedule to be within about 3 months from reasonable outdoor temps.
Do you have videos to propagate from steam?
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The estratificafion does make them come up faster, right? in 30-60 days?
I have never planted rose seeds before.
More like 60 to 90 days from my experience.
Jason,
Now you are just tormenting me.😜🤣😂
My coldest temperatures this year were 4C at sunrise up to 16C at midday. So close.
Being off grid means careful use and management of energy resources, so definitely no stratification by means of a refrigerator.
However, I am thinking about using one of the lava tubes as a cold chamber, like the underground cellars, except in lava rock. Good thing I have a rotary hammer.😬😂
Actually, that is part of the plan for growing own root roses if I can refine the stratification process. I already have about 10 Granny Smith apple tree seedlings sprouted and growing at different stages, but cold storage is kind of cheating. I'm also trying Red Delicious apples, but they are much more finicky and no sprouts yet.
This is a very encouraging video for people to actually see what is possible.👌
I've read that chest freezers use very little electricity because the cold air stays inside when you open the lid.
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I got rid of 2 brand new extra efficient freezers because the consume far too much energy.
During the daylight hours it wasn't a problem, but the battery draw when the motors started would drain the battery charge to less than 50% before morning. The system could recharge fully in less than 2 hours, but discharging the batteries that much every night shortend the battery life by 95%. I have deep cycle batteries and they typically last 10 years at 95-100% service life. Using the freezers reduced that service life to 6 months at 5% efficiency. Most solar systems are supplemented by the electrical grid or a generator to maintain full battery health when using heavy electrical appliances like stove, refrigerator, freezer, washer, dryer. Of course gas appliances are a significant energy savings, but no gas freezers just electric.
You are correct that a chest freezer is approximately 60% more efficient than an upright.
I will be buying a few propane refrigerators and using those components for a cold storage room in the future.
I am currently living in the structure that will eventually become the greenhouse while I build my house which is about 50% complete right now.
The property I own on has no access to the electrical grid, so everything is done using solar panels, batteries, inverters, and generators.
The elevation here is 4,600ft/1,400m which means mostly clears skies until around 10/11 am with misty cloud cover and fog until 4-5 pm. There is more than enough power generation as long for everything I need. Laundry is done using the generator for time and efficiency (no clothesline drying due to constant moisture in the air).
I appreciate your suggestion, many people can certainly benefit from using a chest freezer if they don't already.
I've been using this system for over 13 years and am always looking at the different ways to improve efficiency and longevity, interestingly the older technologies are still the best choice. New products are great, but they cost far too much and simply do not last long enough to pay for themselves. It just takes time to develop these products to be as good as they need to be.
In the meantime we use what works for us.😉🤙
I did a experiment last fall and collected seeds from a weeping crabapple, pretty sure it was grafted, cleaned the seeds, put them in a pot with well drained compost and put the pot outside (under a thin frost cloth with 23 other experiments).
A lot of them germinated, but the fun part is that some of the seedlings have dark red leaves even if the tree I collected them from wasn’t a red variety? How is it possible?
Nice. As with the roses, hybrid crabapples can be genetically complex - and every seedling is a remix of all the "grandparent" and ancestor DNA. It'll be super interesting for you to see what other qualities vary from the mother plant as they develop.
Do you think the seeds may come up with an average cold temperature? Let's say for autumn season, before the "cold or frost" in a temperate region that makes the seedling sprout faster in spring.
I mean by having seeds that went through just watering, rain and seasonal cold temperatures be enough? I've had experiences with some temperate plants that took them 1-2 months to sprout after watering, and some other plants ,like Lavender, that took even more than 3 months to sprout in some cases with just watering and rain.
Jason was very clear about what works. If you’d like to experiment go ahead. Your o your own. No reason to listen to an expert.
Are you mainly growing species roses from seed or doing some breeding too? I’m attempting amateur rose crosses in my garden (with low expectations) because I just think it’s fun idea.
I haven't done a lot of crosses at this point, but that's the plan.
So can you just clip off the hip before it freezes outside and store it in the hip until you are ready for planting? Can it stay in the hip in the fridge or outside if you live in a cold zone?
You can harvest and store cool and dry either in the hip or remove the seeds first and then begin the cold/moist treatment when you're ready.
I have one little sprout, out of about 30 seeds. Its a little over a week old. How do I keep from killing it, until (and after) it gets to the size that you are putting in pots in tne video? I don't have a greenhouse. I have a dome over it now to keep it from drying out, but it still looks so tiny and wispy.
Once sprouted it increasingly needs all the same things any other plant does - sunlight, air movement, consistent soil moisture and eventually some nutrients. One of the next steps is to gently wean it from being under a humidity dome.
Can you grow seeds (out of a refrigerator for months) in sponge grow media (tabletop greenhouse) before transferring to soil.
Sure
Can I use the hips from dead-headed roses? Or do I have to let them stay on the bush?
The hips need to stay on the shrub for 2-3 months to mature the seeds - so in the traditional sense of deadheading, no.
If rose hips are left on the plant through the winter it’s now late February and I pull them off extract the seeds have they already been Stratus by in the past winner in the hips on the rosebush
No, the stratification does not begin until the seeds are removed from the fruit, so the ones left in the hips over winter still require a cold moist treatment.
Do you need to water the trays during the cold storage?
Yes, best to check for consistent moisture through the stratification period
“Remix of all your ancestors genes” love that haha
This is so interesting! My Oscar Peterson especially makes gorgeous hips. One more experiment for next winter!
I'm in southeastern QC, 5b-6a, so if I pick the seeds in late October or early November, plant and refrigerate them right away, that would bring me to ~ February for sprouting. Then I put them under a grow light? Does that sound right?
Sure. Or hold the hips and begin the stratification in Dec or Jan if you think it would be more convenient to rear the seedlings in March or April.
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What do I do with the hips to keep the seeds viable if need be? So many questions, sorry 😉
Dry first (either in the hips or removed) then store cool
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you.
Hi Jason, I have 4 seedlings. One has a really nice, big leaves on a ting seedling tray. The other 3 have tiny leaves. Out of the 3, only one seems to be doing fine. The other two are starting to yellow and the leaves developed brown tips. I recently transplanted the two since they were so root bound on the seedling tray. How do I save them? I think I have those two for a month now but they’re still tiny but lots of roots.
Really not much more to do than offer good growing conditions and patience.
When you put them in the fridge should you use a humidity dome or just open?
I keep them sealed more or less to maintain moisture. If you left them open, you'd just have to be sure to check in and top up moisture as needed.
Thank you! I want to grow some black magic roses from seed. I’ve been having a hard time finding one to buy.
After watching the video I had a quick question. DO you need to cover the hips/seeds once you plant them and put them in the fridge? Water them weekly? I just didnt want to screw it up. I have tried a couple of other methods that did not work. Thanks for the helpful video!
I generally cover or keep in a bag/container just to maintain consistent moisture. The seeds need to be moist (but not soaking wet) all the way through the stratification period.
Thanks!🌳
You should do classes at your farm? Do you?
Thanks. We're just starting with our planning for the year, and seminars are likely.
How long can you wait to harvest the seeds? I had some rose hips that dried up some. Went from their dark red to more brown. Would the seeds still be viable? I harvested the hip in November in midwest US
No problem. If it's difficult to remove the seeds from the dried up hips, you can soak them - but them proceed as normal.
Thank you! I hate when I see those videos!
Mine never produce hips, though. Theu start to, then turn black.
Hmm. I know some roses have a much better time setting his than others.
I have 2 roses that don't produce a hip, Queen Elizabeth and White Honor.
I don't know who the actual grower is (big box store purchases), so I'm guessing possible genetic modification to prevent viable seeds. California is famous for sterilizing plants to prevent people from growing their own plants.
The hips turning black might also be connected to the cross breeding process of that particular rose. Perhaps one of the donor species had an incompatibility as the plant matured?
With all of the hybridization, weird things happen sometimes.
You might also look the plant and flowers over carefully to make sure an insect or other pest isn't finding its way into the bade of the flower before the hip can develop.
Hopefully you find a solution so you can see hips and seeds developing.🤙
@@gwbuilder5779 ty!
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Hi Jason. I'm thinking about to put some seeds in damp tissue paper and put them in a tuppperware and then in the fridge for 3 months. Have you tried this method? I'm asking because the seedling trays are too big for my fridge.....
Sure, that's similar to the previous method I highlighted except I used moist vermiculite in a tupperware or baggy rather than paper (because it can tend to mold up over that long a period)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks! That makes sense! Let me try this method then.
I just foraged some rose hips in January in the Northeast. Will it still work or is it too late to start the process of harvesting the seeds?
It's fine to start now outdoors if you think you'll have 2-3 months of cool weather. Otherwise I'd start in the fridge.
Would they be ok in a greenhouse with no heat in it
It depends on your climate, but I'll give a qualified yes - for the most part roses are pretty winter hardy with minimal protection.
I was thinking of growing a rose by our shed, would either of these work-
Rosa 'Le Petit Prince'
Rosa 'Pearlescent'
Thanks
Nice roses - both good vigorous performers.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Excellent, I will see you Saturday 👍🏻
I have a seedling that I found growing in my herb garden. I can send you a picture. Can you give me advice?
Can you be more specific about he advice you need? The TH-cam content section doesn't allow picture attachments.
Mine have been in moist napkins for over 3 months in the refrigerator in a Tupperware. They're not germinating. Are the seeds now bad? Too moist?
Hard to know. You can sometimes try a month of warm, and then repeat the cold treatment if they're being stubborn. If you have a lot of seeds, I'd also maybe crack some open to make sure they're not empty - some less fertile mother varieties develop seeds without viable embryos.
Can you cold stratify in a bag with paper towel instead of soil? Some how I don''t think my family will like me putting soil pots in our fridge. Thanks
Sure - I've done it with paper towel, but it does tend to get a little green or moldy over time, so just be prepared to check occasionally and change the paper as needed.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Great, thank you
@FraserValleyRoseFarm 😪 None of the rose seeds sprouted. I really thought they would because they increased in size during cold stratification. My cherry blossom seeds were also no growers. Some plants I just can't get to grow from seeds. Or it's my supplier
Just one question. How long it takes for rose grown from a seed start blooming?
Hybrid roses can have small blooms in the first season, but you won't see the full size and vigor probably until the 2nd season.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you i will try this year
My seeds sprouted about a week ago, thank you for your informative videos! I started them too early and this is a pretty awkward time to put them outdoors, so I am going to try to keep them indoors until early spring. Something is off though, the petioles of the cotyledons are almost vertical where they connect to the stem. Then the base of the cotyledons are at almost the highest point and they curl back downwards. Can I put a link to an image here? Otherwise, it looks kind of like this:
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In your experience, have you ever had growth like this, and if yes what were the reasons for it?
Thanks - no, attaching images isn't a feature available in the YT comments section. I'm not sure I'd worry too much about the positioning of the cotyledons - those are pretty temporary structures and will soon send their energy back to support the true leaves.
Given that the seed-raised plants will differ from the parents, and that most people (I assume) will be looking for named varieties, how do you market these? Do you find that some customers are simply content to buy un-named plants based on what they see, in terms of flower shape/colour? (I suppose that uniqueness might also be a selling point) And how do these seedling roses perform in terms of vigour and disease-resistance? (Sorry for all the questions)
No problem. The ones I produced in this tray were rugosa hybrids from snow pavement. Unless they surprise me a whole lot (which would also be okay) they'll likely end up as a mix of pink and whit colored rugosa roses. I'll know which when they bloom for the first time, and I'll sort them accordingly. Rugosas generally pretty healthy and disease resistant and are one of the "standard" landscape roses in our area - some are sold as named varieties, but many are marketed simply as rugosa rubra or rugosa alba depending on bloom color.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks Jason. That's very helpful. Rugosa roses are certainly quite tough plants. Although, Snow Pavement is either unavailable or is sold under a different name in Australia. And I have to say that Fraser Valley looks like a very beautiful part of the world!
I assume these would be considered as own root roses. Are all own root roses grown this way?
Thanks Rick. Yes, they're own root - but you can also produce own-root roses when propagating with cuttings. That's how most are produced because going from cuttings keeps the same DNA as the stock plant, while seedlings are all different varieties.
Do you have a recommendation on a valid website where I could buy seeds? And is a freezer to cold to do the stratification in?
You can really only count on rose seeds being "true to type" for the species roses (R. rugosa, R. hugonis, etc.) I've seen rose seeds sold through Sheffield's and Georgia Vines and a few other tree/shrub seed places, but if you're looking for modern hybrids it's more fun to experiment with seeds collected from the garden. All the ebay and amazon seeds claiming to give you a particular color or bloom form are misleading at best.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I don’t really have any roses to begin with so was going to order some seeds and see if I can get them to sprout
No harm in it, so long as you don't take much stock of the marketing claims, but I'd probably just look for rugosa seeds - they're pretty common, and one of the likely ones you'd get from the other ads anyhow.
Hello from Greece,I have followed all the steps ,had success with seeds germinate, after potting them, don't know what goes wrong and I lose all my plants maybe after a month or more ,its my 3rd time.
Sorry to hear it. I do have a video on the different stages of seedling and I wonder if you'd find it useful: th-cam.com/video/ENKBp7cTpls/w-d-xo.html
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you 🌸
do you need to soak the seeds?
No, not really.
how much do you sell your rose plants for?
We're in Canada, so keep in mind that I'm talking in Cad$ and markets can vary quite a lot. This year we were selling 4" pots at $18, 2 gallon pots and $34 and 3 gallon pots at $45
How can fungus be prevented from appearing inside the plastic container?
It's a balance - the seeds need to be kept a little moist, but too much moisture and organic matter will lead to fungus. Use a sterile(ish) medium like perlite, sand, peat and not waterlogged, then check occasionally to make sure.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much !
I love roses but no matter where i've lived (NE and SE USA) they've gotten slammed by the Japanese Beatle. I know that the adults lay their eggs in lawn where later the little buggers emerge. I see you have plenty of lawn, what are you doing (natural) to keep them away?
We just happen to be in a spot where the JB hasn't proliferated (yet)
Use milky spore 2-3 times a year for Japanese beetles. And for slugs use iron sulfate
Hii bro I need Juliet Rose seeds can u plizz help we're I should get !!
Sorry, I can't help with that. Be aware that even if you had seeds from Juliet wouldn't likely turn out to have similar characteristics as the mother.
If you are not making a mess transplanting you are doing something wrong.😅 I was going to ask if you keep track of which seeds come from which cultivar. You already answer that question. I figured you would do it.
Jason, I wanted to ask if you had ever seen the video about the Longwood Conservatory ?! Brrreathtaking 😮 absolutely beautiful place.
Thanks for the pointer!
So the seeds not in moist earth, are affected by an in-hip-itor??? ;)
Lol
Everytime I try Rose stratification the seeds get mould. Even after soaking them in hydrogen peroxide solution they will get mouldy again as soon as they are placed in a slightly damp paper towel in a plastic container. I've tried for years and fail everytime.
I've usually found the paper towel to get moldy (or at least algae) pretty quickly - and have a little better success in something inorganic like vermiculite or perlite
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I will try that this year, thanks!