Clarification The Road Glide is what is called "twin cooled" air and water, sorry I wasn't more clear. And the primary is chain drive, with the final drive being belt. Sorry for any confusion. Thanks!
ANONYMOUS BIKER USA unfortunately you left out one HUGE HUGE PIECE of the puzzle!!! That is…… The service of Harley Davidson !! You can travel anywhere, and not fear being stranded. With the foreign bike though it’s Great! You don’t even have mom and pop shops that would take it in half the time! It’s unfortunate because the Kawasaki is an amazing bike and I wish the service availability from city to city state to state would be more on the map like it would be for Harley Davidson!
Kawasaki is the better value of course, but I also love the reliability and practically maintenance free upkeep. So much cheaper when you don't have to service your bike all the time.
Man you aint never lie. I'm coming from a harley and buying a vaquero next season. Harley is just way to expensive and the fit and finish only last for but so long. I love this new matt gray the vaquero's are coming in. In the next couple months the price on them will drop! Excellent bikes... I sat on one a said I should've been had one of these!
Harley and BMW wear you out with some kind of service or checkup about every thousand miles. Jap bikes, just fill the gas tank and ride! Dealer will see you for tires and that's about it. Kaw is probably underpowered at 75 h.p. and the two rear shock suspension is antique technology.
@@clay1883 The 75 HP is stock you get a little better with ecu tune and pips air filter. I've never needed more and as far as the shocks, the ride is excellent for my wife and I which is why I purchased the Voyager. Old tech, but still works great.
Harley will always have buyers that want to fit in with their “friends”. And willing to pay the extra money just to say that they ride one. Even though they have the third worst rating for reliability. Yep 26% have a major breakdown in the first year! BTW, they are not made in the USA anymore. India and Mexico is where they are made. They are “assembled” (the wheels, bags and handlebars are put on) here. Don’t drink the koolaide people, make your own decisions based on value and common sense.
Actually, the latest overall ratings I read are this....Yamaha is first, Honda and Suzuki tie for second, Kawasaki is third, BMW is 8th and HD is 19th, just above the worst of all, the Ural. For my money I go for reliability every time when I'm a 1000 miles from home
I smile when you say "fit in". Harley is kind of synonymous with being a rebel. A rebel doesn't conform with the masses and all I see at rallies is a mass of Harleys. I ride what I want, what I like and don't care to fit in, to be a conformist of the rebel ideal. A Honda CTX1300 is a rare unicorn and sticks out like a sore thumb at a rally. The rebel in the crowd of conformity. So I consider myself the rebel even though I don't have the rebel attitude.
The Kawasaki is a fantastic bike to get into touring. You get all the important touring aspects on both bikes. Powerful engine. 6 speed transmission. Bigger gas tanks. Hardbags and tour paks and cruise control. No different than a "starter home or rv". It gets people into the lifestyle without the premium price. And in my.opinion that makes the voyager an even better value. And regardless of what you ride the road and wind are all the same. The bike doesn't make the rider.
I ride with Harley's and Victories all the time, I'm right there with them. Its a cruiser, not a dam sports bike. And I bet the Kawasaki will out last that Harley.
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I have the 900 custom and even that bike passes decent. Kawasaki does a great job of putting hp to the wheels, even on smaller motors.
I have a 2021 Kawasaki Voyager. The suspension is superb. The seat is wonderful. It comes stock with chrome accents everywhere. This is a great value touring bike.
I got the 2023 Voyager and I feel like this is the best bike I have ever owned. My previous bike was a Goldwing, but I find the Voyager more comfortable and more fun to ride. Love listening to that V-Twin engine while I ride.
After looking at a number of bikes to purchase, new, as I go into retirement I chose the Vulcan Voyager 1700 ABS. The cost was a big factor, but, the reliability and cost of maintenance was also figured in. On my old HD a major maintenance was about $1200.00. On my Kawasaki its $350.00. I am not a young man so reliability was VERY important. Once again the Vulcan came out on top. Just 2 days ago I "Ivanized" my bike. What a difference!!! So, if you want to spend a lot less money for a whole lot of bike, get the Vulcan.
I bought my 2018 vulcan voyager in early 2019, it was brand new with 4 miles and because it was left over it was only $14,900 spanking new! And in my humble opinion the candy cardinal red and silver is the sweetest color combo in the voyagers. Comparable Harley was just at $30k. No contest!.
Yup, I just commented on that. Bought a new 2009 in 2010 for about 13 grand out the door on a cash deal. Just under 20k on the odometer. Best of all I haven’t spent 10/20 grand on loud exhaust and bling. 😃
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA With Harley Davidson model it is like this : $30,000.00 total cost but in reality it is like this: $20,000.00 for the bike and $10,000.00 for the name. With the Kawasaki model it is like this: $17,000.00 for the bike and years of longevity and less trouble down the road.
Oh you made out for sure. 14k for a new Voyager is a steal. I got the 2023 Voyager for $16,800 qnd would buy the same bike again if something were to happen to mine.
The Vulcan voyager/vaquero is such an underrated bike. With a 350 dollar tune from ivan the Vulcan opens up and is awesome. Runs cooler too. You can also get them thousands cheaper than msrp, they are always marked down. Good video
@@DirtFishing if you haven’t sent the ecu to ivan in NC, do yourself a favor and get that done. It makes the bike an absolute beast. I bought mine brand new in 2018 for 13k and I put an intake exhaust and tune on it for around 1k dollars. I traded it in two years later and got 12k for it. 20k miles cost me 1k dollars 😃. My indian challenger is twice the bike of the vaquero but the effer cost me 27k dollars, but I owed zero on the vaquero which took that sting down a little bit. Dollar for dollar those bikes are a damn steal. I rode my vaquero across country and it didn’t complain at all, I can’t say that about the harleys I had in the past.
I’m glad that companies are giving Harley serious competition. Harley-Davidson definitely needs to step up their game and give people a better bike for our hard earned money.
To be fair about the price, you have to talk about cost of ownership…. Harley is still going to cost more, but the resale value will cut the gap considerably. I’m a pure metric rider, but if you really want a Harley I think that’s what you got to buy. I’ve always regretted buying something because it was “cheap”.
As a goldwing rider I’ve tested the HD with the 114 and found it was a smaller overall machine great power and looks amazing but the voyager/vaquero is talking to me more and more thanks for the video
Same. My last bike was a 2005 Honda VTX 1800n and the Vaquero is definitely interesting. I am not a Harley guy although I did enjoy the Cross Bones when I rode it on a demo day a few years ago. In my opinion Harley definitely has the name and the brand but the more you know about bikes the less likely you will be willing to dish out the tens of thousands extra on a Harley (personal opinion). There are definitely alternatives that with some personalization are absolutely solid. In the end bikes are like art, you either like it or not.
Owned 14 Harleys since '98. With the current pricing of Harley's, I just can't afford them on my budget anymore. Bought a '22 Concours 14 to go back and forth to work. This bike is incredible! I can't believe I let all these years go by and have been riding a 20th century bike. The price alone on the Voyager makes it the winner. HD needs to get up to the 21st century if they're going to ask that much for their bikes.
@@keithpeacock3220 The Japanese bikes tend to be more reliable and dependable than that of a Harley. Harley's are a lot more expensive to maintain and would probably spend more time with the mechanics than with you. The Japanese bikes are cheaper to maintain and will spend a lot less time with the mechanic than with you other than routine maintenance which must be done but would be less costly.
@@Leatherbro Yes the Japanese bikes will cost you less to own but the aftermarket support is where Harley takes the lead. There is very little aftermarket options for Japanese bikes where for Harley the sky is the limit. I've owned both and currently own a 2012 Ultra Limited. The bike before it was a Voyager. I liked the Voyager and it served me well. With that said I enjoy my Harley more. If you are OK with a stock bike for the length of ownership definitely go with the Voyager. If you want to customize your bike and make it your own go with a Harley. As far as reliability. My personal experience tells me it's all about how you maintain and ride your Harley. I have been diligent with the maintenance on my bike and have not abused it in any way. Other than a set of slip on pipes I have not done any performance mods. I honestly don't think I've ever revved the engine past 3K rpm. The people I know who have had trouble with Harley has not maintained them correctly and abused them. They then cry to everyone about how they are crap. Personally I prefer a Harley however if prices continue to rise I will be forced to put value over preference.
@@12yearssober Opinions vary. I just looked at things from a different perspective and from people who have owned Harleys and the troubles they have had with them.
Fantastic comparison and video review ABUSA! I personally at this point in my life go for the best value for my money. I think the Voyager would be my choice in a bagger either way. Plus for me it's all about the ride, and Kawasaki with their stock suspension would put it over the top for me. Ride and stay safe ABUSA!
I got the 2017 Vaquero. The suspension is fantastic and the power after the flash is night and day. No more backfire and runs so much smoother. (I don’t know if that’s a word)
@@danielvanwetering4102 I have the 2023 Voyager fully stock and I have never encountered a backfire. My bike runs so smooth, no hesitation like some people have complained about. I guess it's all in how you break-in your engine. Idk but mines runs perfectly. My only 2 complaints is the vibration from the chrome trim on the gas tank and the bike tends to run hot while stuck in traffic on a hot day.
I swore off Harleys years ago after the 2 shovelheads I had. I’m sure they are better bikes than they were then, they would have to be. The Kawasaki’s and Honda’s have been the best motorcycles I’ve owned. The Voyager is my road bike.
I owned a 2012 Vaquero last year with Ivan's Ecm flash, cobra neighbor haters, high flow air intake, matte black paint with pinstriping, and other upgrades. While I really like the bike, when I test rode a Harley RGS the torque difference was night and day. Shortly after I traded the Vaquero in for a 19 RGS and I've not looked back. My Harley is much faster and way more fun to ride. But it's all about preference and these are good bikes, so I'll never knock on what someone rides. If I hadn't test ridden the Harley I'd probably still be running around on my Vaquero.
fair points for sure. well said. love the Harley RGS also! . The kawasaki is just such a good value for the money. Either way, just ride is best motto 👍🏼.
I’m actually looking at those bikes right now in 2023. The difference in price is literally 100%. I can get the voyager brand new for $16,900 plus taxes. The road glide limited is well over $32,000. Very difficult to justify that Delta, even if it is a Harley.
Go for the Voyager 👍 You won't be disappointed. Go for the aftermarket air kit, exhaust, Ivan's tune, & it'll transform your ride into a whole other machine for a reasonable added cost. I ride a '21 Vaquero & sometimes wish id gone for the Voyager. Very happy with the bike i have though
I just went through that decision myself and ended up with the Vulcan Voyager 1700. I just couldn't justify the price on the HD or Indian. After putting some miles on it I am completely happy with that choice.
I’m not a label Ho so I look for the best value for my hard earned cash every time. I’d have to go Voyager and I’m red blooded American. Harley it’s time you stepped up your game for the customer.
Forgot to mention that the Kawasaki will outlast the Harley as far as mileage goes. 100k miles is nothing for a Vulcan. If a Harley by chance makes it to 100k it is because the owner spent a crap load of money keeping it up. I’ve owned a Harley before and it was a turd.
🤣😅😂😆 I have a 2006 Vulcan 1600 classic with almost 60,000 on it and it's still running like a champ. I just keep it clean and do basic maintenance. Very trouble free bike.
No, if a Harley makes it to 100k, it’s because the engine was completely rebuilt before 80. That’s not a joke, I had a mechanic channel pop up into my feed today. Dude has a whole series on his channel about HD engine tear-downs. Most telling, so many people commenting that they just do a complete tear down on their engine before 80k because “I’m not going to buy a new bike every 4-5 years.” And because they are air-cooled, the cylinders are glazed and the rods and piston heads are discolored… I mean, if you don’t have Jay Leno money, idk why you’d ever buy an air cooled road bike. You can do better than the finest technology 1973 has to offer.
Bought a 2010 Vulcan voyager and love it. When I replace it, its going to be another one. Harley and their dealerships have priced theirselves right out of this working man's range.
Respect to you friend for not favoring one more than the other. You simply detailed and stated all the facts and highlights. Just one crucial detail you left out…”Ground Clearance”. I personally chose the Voyager because of it’s price difference (can’t afford that 10g+ difference). But I found that the Road Glide’s Ground Clearance is much greater than the Voyager’s. But for 10g’s more? You’re right, HD better sweeten the pot for that extra amount, in addition all the expensive maintenance HD requires.
good fact! thanks for adding it! i'm unbiased with any brand for sure, i like all bikes but i also think high value is most important when buying i always look for the best value and the Voyager definitely is up there! Ride on! 👍🏼
I've got a 2018 Vulcan Voyager (red metalic over gray metalic) that I bought for $12,400 with 1040 miles on it. It's a beautiful bike that rides amazing. It comes with an ACT braking system which activates both front and rear brakes when only applying either the front or rear brake. It's a very nice safety feature for superior advanced braking. I've added bluetooth, superior chrome grips, windshield bag, Vulcan saddlebag and rear compartment zip up, easy removable liners for when I travel (easy way to pack your gear), phone holder, drink holders for both front and back, highway pegs and a sharp looking chrome radiator cover all for less than $500 and was able to pay cash for the bike instead of financing a 30k Harley. Best buy I ever made!
Definitely the Kawasaki. The GPS is a wonderful feature but the fact is Factory navigation is usually horrible in any Vehicle motorcycle or car so I would just buy a decent Garmin.
As some one who has owned a Road Glide and currently owns a Voyager. I must admit it is pritty to find a difference between the two ride wise both extremely comfortable and can do 3 hours rides with no stops. The one place the Voyager does fall slightly short for me is the Entertainment system, I think if Kawasaki put a GPS/Radio unit on the bike it would be the clear choice. So to sum up ride wise- same, cost to Kawasaki, add ons to Harley Davidson simply because of the Entertainment unit. So I would say I love both bikes. You need to look at what you want. If you want something that not many other riders have the Kawasaki is the way to go. If you want a more "common" bike go the Harley. If I could I would have both in my garage together.
I think I'm going to go with the Vaquero. I do like the Road Glides a lot. I was really digging the Victory line, especially the Victory Vision, but,,,,,,,
I picked up my 2020 Voyager last June. Got it for even cheaper as your listed price stated. Otd was 16,123.00. 2 main complaints with it are. The throttle is snappy throttle in 1st thru 3rd gears. Plan to send ecm to Ivan and have it reflashed to solve this issue. Right thigh still gets fried even with the cams system. I did by saddle shields to hopefully help with this issue.
I’ll probably get flack for this lol but I’d take the Kawasaki even if the Harley was 10k cheaper I think the Kawasaki will last way longer just my honest opinion
The plastics on the HD are much better and the front tire on the HD is also better for around town. Other than that and the things you pointed out the kawi is a better barging, sadly I had to sell mine but it's a really good bike.
There is value in the Vulcan for sure and I looked at the Suzuki Boulevard before I went with an eleven year old Heritage over a new Boulevard. It was what I always wanted and I have no regrets. Too each his own. Great job AB.
Great video! I am a bang for buck kinda guy. I went with the Kawasaki. I looked at HD's but couldn't bring myself to pay the high price for used or new ones plus their extortionist maintenance costs. The poor man's Harley works great for me. Got Ivan's flash which really awakens that motorcycle, daymaker headlights, heated grips and I have a new windscreen on the way. The only other upgrade is to install a new radio head that is Bluetooth capable and upgrade the speakers to some JBL's or Kickers. That's my only knock on the Kawasaki - the cheap ass radio!
Well said Chris! I don’t use the radio as I Bluetooth my phone with my com system in my helmet but I understand your point. It really is a great bang for the buck Bagger! Now to just find some chrome ape bars that fit! 😎
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I see 11 inch ape Menacing bars on Amazon for $349.99. They're advertised as Vaquero bars. Still the same bike imho. I would think that any set of ape bars would work even if you needed to add a new riser. bars for HD probably returns the most options rather than looking specifically for Voyager apes. Good luck with the search!
@@chrism796 I saw those and watch a video where the guy had to use a dremel and carve away some of the trim pieces bc he couldn’t get the bars to turn left or right wout it hitting that piece as well as the fairing. You think risers would clear it ? 1.5 inch ? Thanks ‘
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I've checked out a couple of YT videos of Vaqueros with apes. The one guy said he can't turn the bars to lock out or he hits the fairing. Brother, I don't know what to tell you. If I can find a voyager with apes on it I'll hit ya up with a link
I love my RGL. Everyday I ride it I enjoy it more and more. I tried the Vulcan and was not the same feel. Good share. There’s a bike out there for everyone.
Bought a HD in January . It had a sidecar, reverse gear(non-HD) and less than 10K miles on it. It blew the gearbox before I put 500 miles on it plus a lot of other electrical/mechanical issues. I cut my losses with HD & bought a Voyager. Getting that sidecar fitted. With money I save I`ll buy food or take my woman on a Tasmanian holiday for our 50th anniversary.
bought a new 2019 voyager for 14,500 in early 2020 from enfield motor sports in enfield CT. Awesome bike. added bluetooth about 30 dollars., rear speakers..300 (factory ripoff) cup holder, phone holder, back rest..chrome bits and pieces....the usual stuff and its still half of what a road glide cost and it comes with ABS, the hot air system, cruise..etc..
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA No. its the first bike I ever bought new. Usually I buy some pice of junk and fix it..ride till i broke again and I couldnt fix it and buy another. Well..my wife had enough of that and TOLD me to buy new. The Voyager was such a good deal I couldnt pass it up. I might get it flashed..im tired of the downshift misfire..
Both bikes are great bikes. I only wish that Kawasaki would update the radio with factory Bluetooth or a USB-A port in the fairing. It would also be nice if the Vaquero came with at least an 18 inch front wheel. I don't particularly like full dressers so between the road glide standard and the vaquero. I would buy the vaquero.
Smart people buy stuff that works. Easy choice for me, plus an extra 10 in my pocket? Oh yeah! I agree premium priced bikes should come with premium components. Name tags just don't cut it for me. Good times!
Dude I just did that trade! It is the best thing I’ve done. The voyager I just bought is a 2010 with 38k miles. Paid only $5500 for it. Wait till winter. Get as much as you can for your 900 than search Facebook for the deals. I had to drive 5 1/2 hours to get this bike. But well worth it!
I've looked at both bikes at dealers (no riding) and I noticed some fit, finish and quality differences. The most obvious is the quality of the HD bags and trunk is far better, both in materials and construction. The Yamaha Venture (pre '17) seemed to be between the two in overall quality, fit and finish. The Kaw felt more top heavy than the others when sitting still and leaning them over. I'm 5'6" and the Venture seemed to fit me the best from a seat/bar/foot rest perspective. They're all great bikes, I think you can't go wrong with any of them.
People buy Harleys because they want the cache. I've owned several and have enjoyed them, but I've also owned Hondas, several Kawasakis and a Yamaha. Japanese bikes, much like Japanese cars are a bit more vanilla (one color option per year for example) and their components may SEEM cheaper, yet they just run forever w/o problems. HD's typically begin to need engine work before 100,000 miles and when have you ever heard of a Kawa or Yamaha or Honda needing much of anything? They'll outlast a HD 3 times over and cost damn near half as much from the start. So, you decide.
Coming from the sportbike community over to the bagger world I just picked up a kawasaki vulcan vaquero thats the sportier version of the voyager and am looking forward to putting a butt load of miles on it
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I got a preowned 2014 already has the freedom 2 in to 1 and the Ivan's already as well as a few other little things I put almost 23k miles on my last sportbike in 3 years so I'm expecting to do more then that on this
There's nothing at all wrong with the fairing, and Iove the retro gauges. I think the dash is unique and cool. I've read tons of very positive reviews.
I've owned both. The hd needs a monoshock in the rear as bad as the kawi needs a refresh. That and the hd will retain it's value far better than the kawi. At the end of the day their both great bikes though and can't go wrong either way.
Very good comparison. That is a big price difference. You know where us Harley guys stand lol....with that said though, I wouldn't buy a brand new Road Glide again. I love the bike but can't justify spending almost 30k on a motorcycle.
Yeah Nick. Some of what made me think of this is when you said a new RG is as much as your Truck! That’s just ridiculous man. RG is an awesome bike but so much money !
Thanks for reaffirming my decision to never throw my leg over a road bike with an air-cooled engine. This is going to be my choice when it’s time to expand the stable to include a touring bike.
My wife is enjoying riding with me on my ninja 1000sx. The voyager is probably going to replace my ninja next year. First thing I would do is Ivan's ECU flash, slip on and um I'm sure that will be enough power to cruise around merrily with my wife behind me.
Take the kawasaki over the hd any day, at any price. It's amazing how every hd forum is full of guys saying how great their hd is. They've gotten 10k miles and only spent a cpl weeks in the shop in the past year....
I bought the 2017 voyager at the bike show in Toronto my budget was 35k all in I looked at the ultra limited and the bmw1200 and the voyager the Bmw was just over 29k the limited was 34k and the Kawasaki was 24k I couldn’t justify the 10k difference got the Ivan’s tune put on cobra pipes and led lights bike run fantastic all in I’m 25500. I’m very pleased with the bike but I do wish they would get with the times and add Bluetooth to the radio and put in better speakers and an amp would be nice...
Thanks for the video. Unfortunately, gone are the days when 'made in America' was synonymous with top quality. Look at what the RV industry has been doing in Indiana for decades. On the other hand, the Japanese have maintained their consistent quality across many industries, including motorcycles and automobiles. It doesn't make sense to pay another $10+K for the HD or Indian name. They make good looking bikes though, but are indeed overpriced (due to higher salaries/benefits, overhead costs and higher profits). I would definitely choose the Voyager.
The Kawasaki outrun that Harley all day long it doesn't matter if he's got a 114 in there or not Japanese bikes are the way to go I've been riding a Harley lately but I've been thinking about switching over back to Japanese for the last 2 months I haven't decided yet
I just picked up a used 2012 Voyager 1700 for $5,500. Just go ahead and buy one, then wrestle to your pride while you enjoy the smooth, comfortable, highly optioned (and liquid cooled) stylish ride.
Good side by side compare. Much respect for anything 2 wheels but I feel you buy HD baggers for the unique experience, you buy Japanese for every other reason! Big factor you left out is reliability... I've only ever owned Japanese, so I'm biased but after owning so many I've never once had to do anything but regular maintenance, my 1986 Virago with 55,000 miles starts every time, still pulls like a freight train after a carb rebuild, very little rust and leaks no oil whatsoever... that's almost 40 years and everything still works.
Well I own a Harley and a kawasaki but I went with the 2020 Indian with the 111 thunder stroke and it's really a comfortable bagger and it was only 27300 thanks for your time
Well, I would go for the Voyager, less expensive to buy fully loaded great looking one of the things I know the Kawasaki has is a linked braking system apply front and the rear brake engages at the appropriate level apply the rear brake and the front is automatically applied. I had experience with a practically new Harley, driving down the road not making any changes to the controls just riding the bike just shut down and wouldn't start for about ten minutes despite the owners best efforts to get it going. I borrowed the bike while visiting friends back East having left my 2005 Kawasaki Nomad back in Nevada. So, when asked why not a Harley, I simply say, when I go some where for a ride I have what I consider a reasonable expectation that I'm going to make it back. I know Harley has made some huge advances in reliability but I'm just not will to spend more for possibly less.
I would take the Kawi any day. That ten grand plus could sure help in other areas. In fact I am considering buying a new bike and that is how I ended up seeing this old video. I would hit the sub and bell, but already have a long time ago. Great, and fair, review.
Both Awsome Bikes, Kawasaki is The Best Value. Being an old Harley Guy, I would probably still buy the Road Glide but you did make me think about it. Thanks for an awsome video ! Ride On, Ride Safe. ☄💥🤙😎 I Have been Eyeballing a Indian Challenger also 😁
The Road Glide Limited....you said chain drive and air cooled....it's belt and air & water cooled , also the Limited comes with heated grips....I I would still buy the Limited, trade in value stays high.
Ya know I swore it was belt drive but every site I went on said chain. I was taken back by that too. Shoulda went with my gut !!! Limited is super nice but so expensive. But holding value it a good thing ! Thanks Mike
I would go with the Voyager as it is reliable and to me looks better to me. The Harley is ugly to me and there is the risk of it breaking down when you take a long trip.
Between the two? My choice would first be based on reliability. Second is weight and handling. The power difference is not a concern to me as long as it can pull a trailer. As far as having the most power, my attitude is how fast do you need to accelerate anyway. The price is always a concern, but it has to be balanced with the above factors. I may have to spend more to get what works for me.
Clarification The Road Glide is what is called "twin cooled" air and water, sorry I wasn't more clear. And the primary is chain drive, with the final drive being belt. Sorry for any confusion. Thanks!
No problem, it was easy to tell you didn't kn9w what you were talking about!
@@thomaseatkinson7088 you're awesome! thanks 🙏🏽
@Black Belt Bagger the full dresser one has small radiators in the lower fairings. The bagger version "streetglide" for example is air cooled
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unfortunately you left out one HUGE HUGE PIECE of the puzzle!!! That is……
The service of Harley Davidson !!
You can travel anywhere, and not fear being stranded. With the foreign bike though it’s Great! You don’t even have mom and pop shops that would take it in half the time!
It’s unfortunate because the Kawasaki is an amazing bike and I wish the service availability from city to city state to state would be more on the map like it would be for Harley Davidson!
@@uncl3jun386 To be fair, with a japanese bike you most likely never will need a service other than for oil or tire change
Call me crazy but I think that instrument cluster on the Kawasaki is the best-looking coolest of any bike anywhere.
I love it too!
100% agree. Looks way better than the road glide set up
Kawasaki is the better value of course, but I also love the reliability and practically maintenance free upkeep. So much cheaper when you don't have to service your bike all the time.
amen 🙏🏽
Man you aint never lie. I'm coming from a harley and buying a vaquero next season. Harley is just way to expensive and the fit and finish only last for but so long. I love this new matt gray the vaquero's are coming in. In the next couple months the price on them will drop! Excellent bikes... I sat on one a said I should've been had one of these!
Harley and BMW wear you out with some kind of service or checkup about every thousand miles. Jap bikes, just fill the gas tank and ride! Dealer will see you for tires and that's about it. Kaw is probably underpowered at 75 h.p. and the two rear shock suspension is antique technology.
@@clay1883 The 75 HP is stock you get a little better with ecu tune and pips air filter. I've never needed more and as far as the shocks, the ride is excellent for my wife and I which is why I purchased the Voyager. Old tech, but still works great.
Voyager would be My choice not only for the money saved but a MUCH BETTER ride
Harley will always have buyers that want to fit in with their “friends”. And willing to pay the extra money just to say that they ride one. Even though they have the third worst rating for reliability. Yep 26% have a major breakdown in the first year! BTW, they are not made in the USA anymore. India and Mexico is where they are made. They are “assembled” (the wheels, bags and handlebars are put on) here. Don’t drink the koolaide people, make your own decisions based on value and common sense.
Value is KING !
Actually, the latest overall ratings I read are this....Yamaha is first, Honda and Suzuki tie for second, Kawasaki is third, BMW is 8th and HD is 19th, just above the worst of all, the Ural. For my money I go for reliability every time when I'm a 1000 miles from home
@@TOURMANBOBHi, which of the Yamahas r u referring to ?
Ride safe and sane.
I smile when you say "fit in". Harley is kind of synonymous with being a rebel.
A rebel doesn't conform with the masses and all I see at rallies is a mass of Harleys.
I ride what I want, what I like and don't care to fit in, to be a conformist of the rebel ideal.
A Honda CTX1300 is a rare unicorn and sticks out like a sore thumb at a rally. The rebel in the crowd of conformity. So I consider myself the rebel even though I don't have the rebel attitude.
@@gregorytubbs3444 Yep because nothing says rebel like riding the bike EVERYONE and their dead grandmother has.
The Kawasaki is a fantastic bike to get into touring. You get all the important touring aspects on both bikes. Powerful engine. 6 speed transmission. Bigger gas tanks. Hardbags and tour paks and cruise control. No different than a "starter home or rv". It gets people into the lifestyle without the premium price. And in my.opinion that makes the voyager an even better value. And regardless of what you ride the road and wind are all the same. The bike doesn't make the rider.
Very well said ! Excellent comment !
Well put, my only real complaint with the Kawasaki is that they need to update the radio. It's insane that they haven't.
I ride with Harley's and Victories all the time, I'm right there with them. Its a cruiser, not a dam sports bike. And I bet the Kawasaki will out last that Harley.
That Kawasaki engine is pretty much bullet proof! Mine has plenty of power even at 80mph to pass.
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA tell them again. That horse power don’t mean nothing 👍
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I have the 900 custom and even that bike passes decent. Kawasaki does a great job of putting hp to the wheels, even on smaller motors.
@@tomchristian4304 agreed
and having a vance & hines exhaust and cobra fuel management device didn't hurt lol.
I have a 2021 Kawasaki Voyager. The suspension is superb. The seat is wonderful. It comes stock with chrome accents everywhere. This is a great value touring bike.
agreed!
I got the 2023 Voyager and I feel like this is the best bike I have ever owned. My previous bike was a Goldwing, but I find the Voyager more comfortable and more fun to ride. Love listening to that V-Twin engine while I ride.
After looking at a number of bikes to purchase, new, as I go into retirement I chose the Vulcan Voyager 1700 ABS. The cost was a big factor, but, the reliability and cost of maintenance was also figured in. On my old HD a major maintenance was about $1200.00. On my Kawasaki its $350.00. I am not a young man so reliability was VERY important. Once again the Vulcan came out on top. Just 2 days ago I "Ivanized" my bike. What a difference!!! So, if you want to spend a lot less money for a whole lot of bike, get the Vulcan.
Agreed sir!!!! Well said !!! Tremendous value!
I've had my 2002 for a long time, and never had a problem. Take Care
I bought my 2018 vulcan voyager in early 2019, it was brand new with 4 miles and because it was left over it was only $14,900 spanking new! And in my humble opinion the candy cardinal red and silver is the sweetest color combo in the voyagers. Comparable Harley was just at $30k. No contest!.
Case closed Joe lol. Well done !!!!!
Yup, I just commented on that. Bought a new 2009 in 2010 for about 13 grand out the door on a cash deal. Just under 20k on the odometer. Best of all I haven’t spent 10/20 grand on loud exhaust and bling. 😃
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA With Harley Davidson model it is like this : $30,000.00 total cost but in reality it is like this: $20,000.00 for the bike and $10,000.00 for the name. With the Kawasaki model it is like this: $17,000.00 for the bike and years of longevity and less trouble down the road.
Oh you made out for sure. 14k for a new Voyager is a steal. I got the 2023 Voyager for $16,800 qnd would buy the same bike again if something were to happen to mine.
The Vulcan voyager/vaquero is such an underrated bike. With a 350 dollar tune from ivan the Vulcan opens up and is awesome. Runs cooler too. You can also get them thousands cheaper than msrp, they are always marked down. Good video
You would know for sure bud !!!! Thanks for watching!
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA ahhh yeah. Ex vaquero owner. I rode the shit outta that thing all over the country!
I got a 2011 Vaquero one owner with 11,000 miles and with probably 3,000 dollars worth of accessories for $7000
@@DirtFishing outstanding value !!!!!! Do you enjoy it ?
@@DirtFishing if you haven’t sent the ecu to ivan in NC, do yourself a favor and get that done. It makes the bike an absolute beast. I bought mine brand new in 2018 for 13k and I put an intake exhaust and tune on it for around 1k dollars. I traded it in two years later and got 12k for it. 20k miles cost me 1k dollars 😃. My indian challenger is twice the bike of the vaquero but the effer cost me 27k dollars, but I owed zero on the vaquero which took that sting down a little bit. Dollar for dollar those bikes are a damn steal. I rode my vaquero across country and it didn’t complain at all, I can’t say that about the harleys I had in the past.
I’m glad that companies are giving Harley serious competition. Harley-Davidson definitely needs to step up their game and give people a better bike for our hard earned money.
Agreed!
To be fair about the price, you have to talk about cost of ownership…. Harley is still going to cost more, but the resale value will cut the gap considerably. I’m a pure metric rider, but if you really want a Harley I think that’s what you got to buy. I’ve always regretted buying something because it was “cheap”.
I'm a Harley guy but would be happy with either bike. Thanks for sharing and ride safe.
Right on!
As a goldwing rider I’ve tested the HD with the 114 and found it was a smaller overall machine great power and looks amazing but the voyager/vaquero is talking to me more and more thanks for the video
It’s a tremendous value Jose! Thanks for watching!
The vaquero/voyager will always be the best bang for buck. I just bought a 2010 voyager with 38k miles. Paid $5500. And she runs beautifully
I also came from Gold Wings. I technically like the Gold Wing a little bit better, but not 200% better.
Same. My last bike was a 2005 Honda VTX 1800n and the Vaquero is definitely interesting. I am not a Harley guy although I did enjoy the Cross Bones when I rode it on a demo day a few years ago. In my opinion Harley definitely has the name and the brand but the more you know about bikes the less likely you will be willing to dish out the tens of thousands extra on a Harley (personal opinion). There are definitely alternatives that with some personalization are absolutely solid. In the end bikes are like art, you either like it or not.
Owned 14 Harleys since '98. With the current pricing of Harley's, I just can't afford them on my budget anymore. Bought a '22 Concours 14 to go back and forth to work. This bike is incredible! I can't believe I let all these years go by and have been riding a 20th century bike. The price alone on the Voyager makes it the winner. HD needs to get up to the 21st century if they're going to ask that much for their bikes.
well said! that concours is an amazing machine! congrats !!!!
I agree
@@keithpeacock3220 The Japanese bikes tend to be more reliable and dependable than that of a Harley. Harley's are a lot more expensive to maintain and would probably spend more time with the mechanics than with you. The Japanese bikes are cheaper to maintain and will spend a lot less time with the mechanic than with you other than routine maintenance which must be done but would be less costly.
@@Leatherbro
Yes the Japanese bikes will cost you less to own but the aftermarket support is where Harley takes the lead. There is very little aftermarket options for Japanese bikes where for Harley the sky is the limit. I've owned both and currently own a 2012 Ultra Limited. The bike before it was a Voyager. I liked the Voyager and it served me well. With that said I enjoy my Harley more. If you are OK with a stock bike for the length of ownership definitely go with the Voyager. If you want to customize your bike and make it your own go with a Harley. As far as reliability. My personal experience tells me it's all about how you maintain and ride your Harley. I have been diligent with the maintenance on my bike and have not abused it in any way. Other than a set of slip on pipes I have not done any performance mods. I honestly don't think I've ever revved the engine past 3K rpm. The people I know who have had trouble with Harley has not maintained them correctly and abused them. They then cry to everyone about how they are crap. Personally I prefer a Harley however if prices continue to rise I will be forced to put value over preference.
@@12yearssober Opinions vary. I just looked at things from a different perspective and from people who have owned Harleys and the troubles they have had with them.
Ivan’s Flash on your Voyager for $350 and you’re set for less than 21k. Great bike and dependable.
100 percent agreed!
Clarification; under 18k! I had some bad math goin this morning. Must be the 4 degree temps outside freezing my brain.
@@jhask64 understandable lol
21k? These bikes are 13k in my area all day long.
@@Imachowderhead brand new ? Brand new tax, tags and title with Ivan’s flash you’ll be 18k and change.
Fantastic comparison and video review ABUSA! I personally at this point in my life go for the best value for my money. I think the Voyager would be my choice in a bagger either way. Plus for me it's all about the ride, and Kawasaki with their stock suspension would put it over the top for me. Ride and stay safe ABUSA!
It def is a tremendous value! And it is a really nice ride for sure !!! Thanks Jd !
I went Voyager and love it.
Aweome ! Did you get the Ivan’s flash ?
I got the 2017 Vaquero. The suspension is fantastic and the power after the flash is night and day. No more backfire and runs so much smoother. (I don’t know if that’s a word)
Me too. I got the 2023 Voyager and like it more than my Goldwing.
@@danielvanwetering4102 I have the 2023 Voyager fully stock and I have never encountered a backfire. My bike runs so smooth, no hesitation like some people have complained about. I guess it's all in how you break-in your engine. Idk but mines runs perfectly. My only 2 complaints is the vibration from the chrome trim on the gas tank and the bike tends to run hot while stuck in traffic on a hot day.
I swore off Harleys years ago after the 2 shovelheads I had. I’m sure they are better bikes than they were then, they would have to be. The Kawasaki’s and Honda’s have been the best motorcycles I’ve owned. The Voyager is my road bike.
I owned a 2012 Vaquero last year with Ivan's Ecm flash, cobra neighbor haters, high flow air intake, matte black paint with pinstriping, and other upgrades. While I really like the bike, when I test rode a Harley RGS the torque difference was night and day. Shortly after I traded the Vaquero in for a 19 RGS and I've not looked back. My Harley is much faster and way more fun to ride. But it's all about preference and these are good bikes, so I'll never knock on what someone rides. If I hadn't test ridden the Harley I'd probably still be running around on my Vaquero.
fair points for sure. well said. love the Harley RGS also! . The kawasaki is just such a good value for the money. Either way, just ride is best motto 👍🏼.
I’m actually looking at those bikes right now in 2023. The difference in price is literally 100%. I can get the voyager brand new for $16,900 plus taxes. The road glide limited is well over $32,000. Very difficult to justify that Delta, even if it is a Harley.
and the harley will need suspension, the voyager stock suspension is good! seat comfy, it's a tremendous value!
Go for the Voyager 👍 You won't be disappointed. Go for the aftermarket air kit, exhaust, Ivan's tune, & it'll transform your ride into a whole other machine for a reasonable added cost. I ride a '21 Vaquero & sometimes wish id gone for the Voyager. Very happy with the bike i have though
I just went through that decision myself and ended up with the Vulcan Voyager 1700. I just couldn't justify the price on the HD or Indian. After putting some miles on it I am completely happy with that choice.
I’m not a label Ho so I look for the best value for my hard earned cash every time. I’d have to go Voyager and I’m red blooded American. Harley it’s time you stepped up your game for the customer.
Sad but true for sure. It’s a tremendous value Cmon HD.
I got a 2016 voyager kawasaki 1700 ..no issues at all 2 cross country trips just regular maintenance fluids, oil, and tires
Tells ya all ya need to know 👍🏼
Forgot to mention that the Kawasaki will outlast the Harley as far as mileage goes. 100k miles is nothing for a Vulcan. If a Harley by chance makes it to 100k it is because the owner spent a crap load of money keeping it up. I’ve owned a Harley before and it was a turd.
🤣😅😂😆 I have a 2006 Vulcan 1600 classic with almost 60,000 on it and it's still running like a champ. I just keep it clean and do basic maintenance. Very trouble free bike.
No, if a Harley makes it to 100k, it’s because the engine was completely rebuilt before 80. That’s not a joke, I had a mechanic channel pop up into my feed today. Dude has a whole series on his channel about HD engine tear-downs. Most telling, so many people commenting that they just do a complete tear down on their engine before 80k because “I’m not going to buy a new bike every 4-5 years.” And because they are air-cooled, the cylinders are glazed and the rods and piston heads are discolored… I mean, if you don’t have Jay Leno money, idk why you’d ever buy an air cooled road bike. You can do better than the finest technology 1973 has to offer.
Bought a 2010 Vulcan voyager and love it. When I replace it, its going to be another one. Harley and their dealerships have priced theirselves right out of this working man's range.
fair points !
Just sold my Harley and bought a Voyager So far love it.
Congratulations! 🎈
hey Mr mac..can you give us an update on how the bike is doing?
I love my Kawasaki voyager never rode a Harley never will, but they are beautiful
Respect to you friend for not favoring one more than the other. You simply detailed and stated all the facts and highlights. Just one crucial detail you left out…”Ground Clearance”. I personally chose the Voyager because of it’s price difference (can’t afford that 10g+ difference). But I found that the Road Glide’s Ground Clearance is much greater than the Voyager’s. But for 10g’s more? You’re right, HD better sweeten the pot for that extra amount, in addition all the expensive maintenance HD requires.
good fact! thanks for adding it! i'm unbiased with any brand for sure, i like all bikes but i also think high value is most important when buying
i always look for the best value and the Voyager definitely is up there! Ride on! 👍🏼
I've got a 2018 Vulcan Voyager (red metalic over gray metalic) that I bought for $12,400 with 1040 miles on it. It's a beautiful bike that rides amazing. It comes with an ACT braking system which activates both front and rear brakes when only applying either the front or rear brake. It's a very nice safety feature for superior advanced braking. I've added bluetooth, superior chrome grips, windshield bag, Vulcan saddlebag and rear compartment zip up, easy removable liners for when I travel (easy way to pack your gear), phone holder, drink holders for both front and back, highway pegs and a sharp looking chrome radiator cover all for less than $500 and was able to pay cash for the bike instead of financing a 30k Harley. Best buy I ever made!
Well well done Jim!!!! It’s a tremendous value !
Value alm the way. Plus the transmission on that kawie is so much smoother than on HD
Definitely the Kawasaki.
The GPS is a wonderful feature but the fact is Factory navigation is usually horrible in any Vehicle motorcycle or car so I would just buy a decent Garmin.
Indeed. I have the Tom Tom rider gps. Works well!
As some one who has owned a Road Glide and currently owns a Voyager. I must admit it is pritty to find a difference between the two ride wise both extremely comfortable and can do 3 hours rides with no stops. The one place the Voyager does fall slightly short for me is the Entertainment system, I think if Kawasaki put a GPS/Radio unit on the bike it would be the clear choice. So to sum up ride wise- same, cost to Kawasaki, add ons to Harley Davidson simply because of the Entertainment unit. So I would say I love both bikes. You need to look at what you want. If you want something that not many other riders have the Kawasaki is the way to go. If you want a more "common" bike go the Harley. If I could I would have both in my garage together.
I think I'm going to go with the Vaquero. I do like the Road Glides a lot. I was really digging the Victory line, especially the Victory Vision, but,,,,,,,
Victory was awesome for sure! Road glide is a really nice bike but the vaquero is right there with it and for 10k cheaper. Kinda crazy!
Plus de front shape of the bike is just massive powerful retro looking
I picked up my 2020 Voyager last June. Got it for even cheaper as your listed price stated. Otd was 16,123.00. 2 main complaints with it are.
The throttle is snappy throttle in 1st thru 3rd gears. Plan to send ecm to Ivan and have it reflashed to solve this issue.
Right thigh still gets fried even with the cams system. I did by saddle shields to hopefully help with this issue.
I have the Ivan’s flash and it’s awesome! You’re gonna love it !
I’ll probably get flack for this lol but I’d take the Kawasaki even if the Harley was 10k cheaper I think the Kawasaki will last way longer just my honest opinion
Fair enough. Fair statement Justin. Thanks for sharing!
The plastics on the HD are much better and the front tire on the HD is also better for around town. Other than that and the things you pointed out the kawi is a better barging, sadly I had to sell mine but it's a really good bike.
thanks for watching !
There is value in the Vulcan for sure and I looked at the Suzuki Boulevard before I went with an eleven year old Heritage over a new Boulevard. It was what I always wanted and I have no regrets. Too each his own. Great job AB.
Completely understand! So many ways to get the bike you want ! Just wish new HDs weren’t SO expensive !
Me too, that is why my ride is 13 years old.
Great video! I am a bang for buck kinda guy. I went with the Kawasaki. I looked at HD's but couldn't bring myself to pay the high price for used or new ones plus their extortionist maintenance costs. The poor man's Harley works great for me. Got Ivan's flash which really awakens that motorcycle, daymaker headlights, heated grips and I have a new windscreen on the way. The only other upgrade is to install a new radio head that is Bluetooth capable and upgrade the speakers to some JBL's or Kickers. That's my only knock on the Kawasaki - the cheap ass radio!
Well said Chris! I don’t use the radio as I Bluetooth my phone with my com system in my helmet but I understand your point. It really is a great bang for the buck Bagger! Now to just find some chrome ape bars that fit! 😎
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I see 11 inch ape Menacing bars on Amazon for $349.99. They're advertised as Vaquero bars. Still the same bike imho. I would think that any set of ape bars would work even if you needed to add a new riser. bars for HD probably returns the most options rather than looking specifically for Voyager apes. Good luck with the search!
@@chrism796 I saw those and watch a video where the guy had to use a dremel and carve away some of the trim pieces bc he couldn’t get the bars to turn left or right wout it hitting that piece as well as the fairing. You think risers would clear it ? 1.5 inch ? Thanks ‘
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I've checked out a couple of YT videos of Vaqueros with apes. The one guy said he can't turn the bars to lock out or he hits the fairing. Brother, I don't know what to tell you. If I can find a voyager with apes on it I'll hit ya up with a link
@@chrism796 Thats my only gripe with the bike. After market accessories. Thanks for the info! Ride on!
I love my RGL. Everyday I ride it I enjoy it more and more. I tried the Vulcan and was not the same feel. Good share. There’s a bike out there for everyone.
It’s an awesome bike for sure! Just wish they were a little less costly. Thanks for watching!
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA yup. I got mine for 5500k under msrp. But still big bucks lol
@@WildOn2sVlog that’s an awesome deal!
I agree with you. I have bout Vulcan Voyager 2012 at an affordable price.
Bought a HD in January . It had a sidecar, reverse gear(non-HD) and less than 10K miles on it. It blew the gearbox before I put 500 miles on it plus a lot of other electrical/mechanical issues. I cut my losses with HD & bought a Voyager. Getting that sidecar fitted. With money I save I`ll buy food or take my woman on a Tasmanian holiday for our 50th anniversary.
sorry to hear abt the HD mishap. but! the voyager is an awesome value!!!!!!!! happy 50th!
bought a new 2019 voyager for 14,500 in early 2020 from enfield motor sports in enfield CT. Awesome bike. added bluetooth about 30 dollars., rear speakers..300 (factory ripoff) cup holder, phone holder, back rest..chrome bits and pieces....the usual stuff and its still half of what a road glide cost and it comes with ABS, the hot air system, cruise..etc..
Great value !!!!! Do you have the Ivan’s flash ?
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA No. its the first bike I ever bought new. Usually I buy some pice of junk and fix it..ride till i broke again and I couldnt fix it and buy another. Well..my wife had enough of that and TOLD me to buy new. The Voyager was such a good deal I couldnt pass it up. I might get it flashed..im tired of the downshift misfire..
@@phillenz6593 the flash does wonders !!!!!!
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA Ive heard about it from the vulcanforum.com. makes me wonder why kawasaki couldnt properly tune the bike to start with.
Both bikes are great bikes. I only wish that Kawasaki would update the radio with factory Bluetooth or a USB-A port in the fairing. It would also be nice if the Vaquero came with at least an 18 inch front wheel. I don't particularly like full dressers so between the road glide standard and the vaquero. I would buy the vaquero.
alll fair points!
Definitely Kawasaki. Better value and quality for a cheaper price.
Agreed!
Smart people buy stuff that works. Easy choice for me, plus an extra 10 in my pocket? Oh yeah! I agree premium priced bikes should come with premium components. Name tags just don't cut it for me. Good times!
If you want to ride get the Vulcan. If you want to cuss out a dealer over warranty work, get the Harley.
😂😂😂😂😂
This was a really great comparison bud I’m with you till the end buddy
Thanks!
I went with a 2018 kawasaki vaquero an I love it. I looked at Harleys an even the second hand bikes were stupid expensive.
great choice James! you'll love it for years !
Great vid. I have a Vulcan 900 Classic right now and the Voyager is my dream bike.
thanks !!!!! you can def get that voyager! such great values! tons used deals too! like 8k for low miles bagger !!!
Dude I just did that trade! It is the best thing I’ve done. The voyager I just bought is a 2010 with 38k miles. Paid only $5500 for it. Wait till winter. Get as much as you can for your 900 than search Facebook for the deals. I had to drive 5 1/2 hours to get this bike. But well worth it!
Yep, I'm driven by value...😂😭
Bang for the buck feels the best when you ride off !
I've looked at both bikes at dealers (no riding) and I noticed some fit, finish and quality differences. The most obvious is the quality of the HD bags and trunk is far better, both in materials and construction. The Yamaha Venture (pre '17) seemed to be between the two in overall quality, fit and finish. The Kaw felt more top heavy than the others when sitting still and leaning them over. I'm 5'6" and the Venture seemed to fit me the best from a seat/bar/foot rest perspective. They're all great bikes, I think you can't go wrong with any of them.
agree
Screw aftermarket parts, just get on the bike and enjoy your ride.
People buy Harleys because they want the cache. I've owned several and have enjoyed them, but I've also owned Hondas, several Kawasakis and a Yamaha. Japanese bikes, much like Japanese cars are a bit more vanilla (one color option per year for example) and their components may SEEM cheaper, yet they just run forever w/o problems. HD's typically begin to need engine work before 100,000 miles and when have you ever heard of a Kawa or Yamaha or Honda needing much of anything? They'll outlast a HD 3 times over and cost damn near half as much from the start. So, you decide.
very well said sir! can't argue with that !
Vaquero or cross country are my favorite
I love the fact that you have such positive energy my man! Thank you for the video!
thanks for your time watching!
Buy the vulcan & leave it alone , just ride it man !!!!
Those Voyagers are nice, and they are fast,a friend of mine had one back in 03 and damn it was quick, good comparison ANON 💯🤜🏼💥
Thanks OzarkS !
Kawasaki for sure best value, best warranty, more reliable.
Agreed
Coming from the sportbike community over to the bagger world I just picked up a kawasaki vulcan vaquero thats the sportier version of the voyager and am looking forward to putting a butt load of miles on it
great choice! same exact everything as voyager less then trunk..... get the ivan's flash for the ECU makes BIG difference.... have fun!
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I got a preowned 2014 already has the freedom 2 in to 1 and the Ivan's already as well as a few other little things I put almost 23k miles on my last sportbike in 3 years so I'm expecting to do more then that on this
@@the2wheelsnowman excellent!
I do love Harley Davidson's but then again I've never seen a Kawasaki on the side of the road.
Guess what I have seen road side? Any takers?
Hmmmmmmmmmm lol
Cops? :)
@@ThePolak700 lol smartass
I like pretty much all the cruisers. But, budget is always an issue lol.
Same here buddy !
There's nothing at all wrong with the fairing, and Iove the retro gauges. I think the dash is unique and cool. I've read tons of very positive reviews.
agree !
Nomad is king
I've owned both. The hd needs a monoshock in the rear as bad as the kawi needs a refresh. That and the hd will retain it's value far better than the kawi.
At the end of the day their both great bikes though and can't go wrong either way.
fair statements !
voyager all the way for the money its the best touring machine on the road
Good choice!
They both great bike but for me I'll chose HD because If have the bike for more than 10 years I won't struggle with the parts like other bike brands
fair
That's true, but then again for the Voyager you never need anything but the usual wear items which are readily available.
Very good comparison. That is a big price difference. You know where us Harley guys stand lol....with that said though, I wouldn't buy a brand new Road Glide again. I love the bike but can't justify spending almost 30k on a motorcycle.
Yeah Nick. Some of what made me think of this is when you said a new RG is as much as your Truck! That’s just ridiculous man. RG is an awesome bike but so much money !
Yep. I agree.
Appreciate a very nice review. I will go with a Voyager and as described by you, I can upgrade to a glide when needed.
thanks 🙏🏽
Voyager all the way!!
Thanks for reaffirming my decision to never throw my leg over a road bike with an air-cooled engine. This is going to be my choice when it’s time to expand the stable to include a touring bike.
I have a Kawasaki Vaquero and a Harley Fatbob 114 love them both.👍
best of both worlds !
One looks good, the other one looks like it has been 5 different designers doing their own part and put together.
which one is which ?
As soon as I find the " local KW dealer with the big discount" I am going with the Voyager. Right now will save my money .
Sounds like a plan!!!
My wife is enjoying riding with me on my ninja 1000sx. The voyager is probably going to replace my ninja next year. First thing I would do is Ivan's ECU flash, slip on and um I'm sure that will be enough power to cruise around merrily with my wife behind me.
no doubt ! great value bike !
Take the kawasaki over the hd any day, at any price. It's amazing how every hd forum is full of guys saying how great their hd is. They've gotten 10k miles and only spent a cpl weeks in the shop in the past year....
At the end of the day with Harley you’re paying for looks and the name brand. I like the Kawasaki brand it’s reliable and budget friendly
My buddy has a voyager, bought it new and traveled the us. Put 100k on it with no issues
great bike for sure !
I bought the 2017 voyager at the bike show in Toronto my budget was 35k all in I looked at the ultra limited and the bmw1200 and the voyager the Bmw was just over 29k the limited was 34k and the Kawasaki was 24k I couldn’t justify the 10k difference got the Ivan’s tune put on cobra pipes and led lights bike run fantastic all in I’m 25500. I’m very pleased with the bike but I do wish they would get with the times and add Bluetooth to the radio and put in better speakers and an amp would be nice...
Agree ! But it is the best value Bagger going for sure !
Very nice Kawasaki!!
Thank you sir !
Thanks for the video. Unfortunately, gone are the days when 'made in America' was synonymous with top quality. Look at what the RV industry has been doing in Indiana for decades. On the other hand, the Japanese have maintained their consistent quality across many industries, including motorcycles and automobiles. It doesn't make sense to pay another $10+K for the HD or Indian name. They make good looking bikes though, but are indeed overpriced (due to higher salaries/benefits, overhead costs and higher profits). I would definitely choose the Voyager.
thanks for the time watching!
The Kawasaki outrun that Harley all day long it doesn't matter if he's got a 114 in there or not Japanese bikes are the way to go I've been riding a Harley lately but I've been thinking about switching over back to Japanese for the last 2 months I haven't decided yet
it's good bc you ride both so you know the exact comparison! 👍🏼
Kwaka for me. 👍🏾💯
Yeah buddy !
I just picked up a used 2012 Voyager 1700 for $5,500. Just go ahead and buy one, then wrestle to your pride while you enjoy the smooth, comfortable, highly optioned (and liquid cooled) stylish ride.
$5500? how can you not love that! what a steal for a tremendous value! congrats! 🎉
I have a voyager. And love it. For the value, I would get it again and upgrade to my liking.
agreed !
Good side by side compare. Much respect for anything 2 wheels but I feel you buy HD baggers for the unique experience, you buy Japanese for every other reason! Big factor you left out is reliability... I've only ever owned Japanese, so I'm biased but after owning so many I've never once had to do anything but regular maintenance, my 1986 Virago with 55,000 miles starts every time, still pulls like a freight train after a carb rebuild, very little rust and leaks no oil whatsoever... that's almost 40 years and everything still works.
Well I own a Harley and a kawasaki but I went with the 2020 Indian with the 111 thunder stroke and it's really a comfortable bagger and it was only 27300 thanks for your time
Which.Indian model? Did you keep the HD and KAWI or make a trade? You come from a great point of reference!
I bought 3 brand new bikes this year. Still have all 3. My 3rd was a 23 Voyager. THE SUM OF ALL 3 BIKES DID NOT EQUAL 1 HARLEY DAVIDSON.
what were the other 2 ?
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA 23 vulcan custom and a 22 KLR(that was technically last yr but the fiscal yr is what counts
@@richvangorder3900 great bikes! what HD do you have that you favor so much ?
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA misunderstanding my friend. I meant i could physically buy 3 brand new bikes and the sum of all 3 didnt cost 1 Harley Davidson.
@@richvangorder3900 ahhhhhhh gotcha buddy ! true story !
Well, I would go for the Voyager, less expensive to buy fully loaded great looking one of the things I know the Kawasaki has is a linked braking system apply front and the rear brake engages at the appropriate level apply the rear brake and the front is automatically applied. I had experience with a practically new Harley, driving down the road not making any changes to the controls just riding the bike just shut down and wouldn't start for about ten minutes despite the owners best efforts to get it going. I borrowed the bike while visiting friends back East having left my 2005 Kawasaki Nomad back in Nevada. So, when asked why not a Harley, I simply say, when I go some where for a ride I have what I consider a reasonable expectation that I'm going to make it back. I know Harley has made some huge advances in reliability but I'm just not will to spend more for possibly less.
fair point !
My 2012 Voyager was $6300 with 12,000 miles on it. I’m never looking back.
right on!
I got the Vaquero, the Voyager's tour-pack-less sibling.
yup a cool bike for sure !
Vulcan rules 👍🏼
I still have my 06 Kawasaki Vulcan VN2000 Bagger , 125.6 ci 2053cc engine . Still a better bike than my road king .
I would take the Kawi any day. That ten grand plus could sure help in other areas. In fact I am considering buying a new bike and that is how I ended up seeing this old video. I would hit the sub and bell, but already have a long time ago. Great, and fair, review.
thanks Tenn rides ! it's a great value full dressed bagger for sure! thanks for the support !
Great video my man.🤘🏻🤘🏻. Great comparison.
Thank you sir !
Love my Voyager.
Great video.
Indeed!!
Both Awsome Bikes, Kawasaki is The Best Value.
Being an old Harley Guy, I would probably still buy the Road Glide but you did make me think about it. Thanks for an awsome video !
Ride On, Ride Safe.
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I Have been Eyeballing a Indian Challenger also 😁
Road glide is awesome for sure ! And the Kawasaki is a tremendous value Indeed ! Thanks for watching!
The Road Glide Limited....you said chain drive and air cooled....it's belt and air & water cooled , also the Limited comes with heated grips....I I would still buy the Limited, trade in value stays high.
Ya know I swore it was belt drive but every site I went on said chain. I was taken back by that too. Shoulda went with my gut !!! Limited is super nice but so expensive. But holding value it a good thing ! Thanks Mike
I just went back on HD site and it says the 2020 road glide limited is chain 34/46 ratio primary drive. And twin cooled for sure.
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA I thought the limited had radiators in the lowers? And cams are chain drives. But it has a belt on the rear wheel pully
I would go with the Voyager as it is reliable and to me looks better to me. The Harley is ugly to me and there is the risk of it breaking down when you take a long trip.
Between the two?
My choice would first be based on reliability.
Second is weight and handling.
The power difference is not a concern to me as long as it can pull a trailer. As far as having the most power, my attitude is how fast do you need to accelerate anyway.
The price is always a concern, but it has to be balanced with the above factors. I may have to spend more to get what works for me.
excellent feedback!
What do these bikes have in common? They both have Showa front suspension.