i will always love when batman says stuff like "i intend to scare adults not children". i think a lot of people forget that a huge part of batman is taking care of kids so they dont suffer like he did. he has all these adopted kids and i mean do i even HAVE to mention ace? i just...love that.
we lost a true artist and genius when we lost Darwyn. No DC book can top New Frontier in my opinion, even down to the very structure of the staging of the panels on each page is pure brilliance. My only regret with the films is the story just felt rushed - but man, you put out another excellent video. This channel is the best.
Back then when we had comics like Watchmen subverting the superhero comic book genre, in contrast Justice League The New Frontiers comic is a wonderful celebration of superheroes and nature heroism, and Darwyn Cooke's art is phenomenal. I love how it interconnects storylines surrounding Hal Jordan's Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Flash and the formation of the Justice League against the Center. This movie is a perfect introduction for people who want to get into The Justice League. Im a big fan of Martian Manhunter, a really underrated hero and complex, very philosophical and introspective character and a founding member of the Justice League who's honestly the heart and soul of the team. He's got a really tragic backstory, revolting around Mars and suffering under a race war that killed his family and wiped out his species, all except him, so he and Superman share similarities as immigrants from the stars
I love hal Jordan in this. The ring proves that he isn’t a coward, he has the will to stand up for what’s right and not contribute to evil. Also everyone looking down on him gives him the opportunity to be a rebel, but unlike other interpretations he isn’t arguing against rational people or the other heroes that we’re supposed to look up to. Normally that makes him look like kind of an asshole because being strongheaded is a way to show his willpower. Here, it’s clearer that Hal Jordan has not just the heart of a lion but he equally has the heart of a hero. It’s clear in this story that he’s doing the right thing and his willpower is shown through him not bending or changing when he’s called a coward, because he is confident that he’s doing the right thing. His confidence isn’t unearned but some stories like make it feel that way.
It’s a shame Bruce Timm isn’t happy with the movie adaptation. I really enjoyed it and Darwyn Cooke even ended up liking it more than he thought he would. He became more involved with the production once he saw what they were doing was good
@@paulakroy2635 it is...especially since John Henry of Legend and his legacy character in the DCU now John Henry Irons Jr. is Steel's older cousin...and shows that a Superman was always around...John Henry Jr. like Irons III is a Man of Steel.
@@paulakroy2635 John Henry was my favorite subplot of the whole miniseries. It was crucial to Martian Manhunter's belief in humankind, to the point of choosing to go back to Mars after he realized Henry was murdered by a white little girl. This was one of the many reasons I didn't enjoy THE NEW FRONTIER movie at all.
I just read this a couple months ago and rewatched the movie. Darwyn Cooke is really a master of the medium, delivering one of the best written and best drawn comics I’ve ever read all in one. I don’t know anyone else who has done a better job as a writer/artist on a superhero comic than him. I was also taken by the way he manages to homage and respect the New Frontier era as he deconstructs it.
In DC: The New Frontier, Darwyn Cooke brilliantly deconstructs the superhero mythos by placing these iconic figures in the gritty, turbulent reality of the 1950s and 1960s. Unlike the usual depictions of flawless demigods, Cooke’s heroes are deeply flawed and relatable, grappling with personal insecurities, moral conflicts, and the harsh socio-political climate of the era. The story’s backdrop of the Cold War, McCarthyism, and the civil rights movement strips away the idealized veneer of heroism, forcing characters to confront the same prejudices and fears as ordinary people. Cooke’s approach is refreshingly humanizing, showcasing that true heroism isn’t about superpowers but about making tough, ethical choices in the face of adversity.
You look at something as pure and hopeful as New Frontier, the view of America. Then you look at what that country is today and it only makes you sad. That spirit reaching for the newest frontiers is dead.
I know. It’s amazing! These videos are exactly the type of “dinner entertainment conversations” I would LOVE to have in real life…. Or in general. Love these guys!
New Frontier is not only one my top 5 favorite comic books of all time but is the story that embodies the best aspect that define the DC Universe as whole. Some people say that DC heroes aren't relatable like the Marvel heroes, that they are basically "modern gods" and "too perfect". New Frontier is the counter-argument to this idea, with the story spending most of it's time not on the heroes just fighting and doing big stuff, but on their personal lifes, who they truly are and their struggle to live in a time period that seems to reject their heroism. It's how they handle those dramas, from Flash overcoming his insecurity to J'onn and Farady bonding, that humanizes these characters and make them so appealing. In the end, the DC heroes aren't these "modern gods who live among humans", they are just selfless people who try to good in the world and inspire the best in others, not by demanding or forcing but by being an good exemple.
I really hope that James Gunn and Peter Safran's DCU will be building up to a modern day adaptation of The New Frontier. I've only seen the film, but it's a genuinely good watch (regardless of how rushed some parts are) and it could be a good timeless message for the new DCU to follow and be adapted in a new modern way that doesn't remove the impact of the original comic.
@@SecretMagician I hope the same, specially when comes to him adapt Hal Jordan. I would love to see him having a similar character arc, being established as soldier who disobey authority and everybody thinks is coward but in reality he's brave man loyal to his good values. This could even be explore when the DCU introduces Sinestro, with him acting as contrast to Hal, being the soldier everybody expects Hal to be, but end up corrupt for embracing all these toxic masculinity aspects (ex: Agressive, overuse of fear and intimidation).
@@SecretMagician Plus, the Center is a villain who Gunn could build up through the movies, with some characters in each project being under his influence or aware of his coming and trying to prepare Earth for his invasion.
@@alexandrefrauches132 I'm pretty sure the "mystery" Hal Jordan and John Stewart are investigating will be about the Center, considering Gunn said it'll be tied into the DCU.
@alexandrefrauches132 agreed, Hal's arc is something I could see starting in the Lanterns series and being further developed in future seasons/movies. Edit: I also think that the mystery Hal and John are investigating in the Lanterns show could be the Center, considering that James Gunn said that the mystery encompasses the entire DCU.
Genuinely i seem to find more and more reasons to love dc even more than i already do. Im a true beliver in america , even if were not perfect . Everything america represents is on display in this for better and worse. But its never perfect , like we our , howevr we can always strive to do and be better. Its perfect cause i love all the charcters but double on the representation of what america truly means, just forms a perfect drink.
I just wanna say as an American today I find your take on this comic/movie really resonates with me now. I honestly teared up a little at the end there, and it makes me want to be hopeful for the future.
Excellent analysis, as always, Leo. Thanks for sharing! The only thing I would nitpick is that white New Frontier indeed *appears* simple at first glance, it's one of the most intricately constructed stories to come out of the big two publishers this side of Perez's work on Crisis on Infinite Earths, and it's a miracle how Cooke was able to weave all of these rich threads together so seamlessly and make it look simple.
I would posit that we in the US _have_ been asking ourselves, "Who have we become, and are we okay with that?" for a very long time, it's just that the halls of power (Washington, mainly, but also New York and Silicon Valley) have been resisting this question for at least as long. Sure, abandoning thousands of families during a massive hurricane was a much greater scandal than the CIA torturing prisoners, but both of those are the result of a system that values stock prices much more highly than human lives. I'm sure those in power understand that the world could be a better, kinder, fairer place, they just don't care, or worse, they _benefit_ from a cold, abusive, and evil world. As horrible this country has been, there has been progress since 1969, slow transitions towards more diversity, more fairness, more justice; it just doesn't seem that way to many of us who don't have time to compare and contrast, who are struggling to make ends meet. I'm sure that Mr. Cooke might be shocked that there was legislation that tried to make what the Bush administration did not-so-brazenly-illegal, but go back 100 years and we would probably do the exact same thing without media coverage or any kind of oversight or appeal. The fact that we even _know_ about Abu Ghraib, that someone risked their career to stand up and say "this is wrong" without being silenced, is progress (low bar, I know). Nixon would have tried to silence the whistleblower (and he likely would have succeeded), and the right-wing media and "intellectual" ecosystem is the result of many powerful people thinking he was always right. But Nixon and his friend Kissinger have a _lot_ of blood on their hands. If this country is to become a better place than yesterday, every citizen has to ask themselves, "Who have we become, and are we okay with that?" every election. And we all have to remember that lasting change for the better is never easy, nor does it happen in a year or even 4 years.
The problem is people have subverted the very ideal of justice and made it into revenge that all it is now. There's no diversity as in "do people whom worked hard and have interest in this have a space to grow here" It's more like "let me pool people who think like I do here so I cannot be questioned for my irony" They maybe visually diverse yet in thought and pratices they're far from it. People want to do good and have space to grow yet such things scare people who think they have power they fear being replaced they're like the rulers of old "They want to live forever" they don't care if they must destroy the world to get their goal. Overall the people that grew up reading those old comics became the very evil villains they once hated.
I don't totally agree that the film version is made better by having Batman present at the final battle. One thing I really liked in the comic was how in the end Superman and Wonder Woman are largely sidelined and Batman isn't there. And its down to the Silver Agers to take down the threat (and yeah, I realize Green Arrow is technically is a Golden Age character). By having Batman and Wonder Woman more active in the air and ground battle, it feels like a bit of the message of 'this new generation can do this' gets a little muddled.
Wonder Woman being there is necessary for early league comics. Maybe they should have pulled a "Hippolyta to Diana" transition like mainstream was at the time before Infinite Crisis changed it to Diana going the route of the Hawks.
Totally understandable but regardless I like how both versions are larger not big 3 stories and instead largely focused on the other justice league members (manhunter, flash and green lantern) normally for JL they are more side characters with the big three being the main ones so them being the main characters is something I really respect. And regardless of him providing the atom he still does play a secondary role so it atleast held back on making him a big part of things
ok i absolutely love all of your videos, love the character essays and how deeply you go into the history and psyche but the fact that you just mentioned Mass Effect, PLEASE give us character essays for Mass Effect characters, im begging you. Would be amazing to hear your view on characters like Miranda, Jacob, Javik and Ashley and really any one in those games.
been waiting on this one man! love your stuff, in fact, i'm an english lit & lang student at a level and i read my essays in your voice to make them sound smarter, keep it up!
"DC The New Frontier" is my favourite DC book. "The Other History of the DC Universe" is similar in a sense so I like that too. It fills the role of what I expect from a "DC Next Frontier" sequel which could show the transition from the Silver Age to the Bronze Age. Although "The Other History of the DC Universe" goes up to the Modern Age too.
I still remember when the movie came out and how cool I thought it and Martian Manhunter were, but given how long ago that was and the age I was I don't think I really grasped exactly what was going on as far as the non-alien invasion stuff was concerned, but then again this was almost 20 years ago so my memory of what I thought and felt back then isn't very extant and clear anymore.
Robert downey jr as batman was such an interesting casting choice in this film! I was amazed by the nuance of the xbox acquisition of Blizzard, always imaginied it just like that in the comic!
Ive always been in love with what America stood for, and especially growing into my 20s its easy to be jaded with its flaws. But projects like the new frontier and superman vs the elite really make me emotional because it brings back a sense of America that feels forgetten in the modern age. Its proof that theres still heart here. That even though the way the values are represented harken back 100 years ago, the values themselves are just as valuable today. and it really gives me hope for the future.
Great video. I hope the story of peace, understanding, and exploration is embraced by the world. And it's great, that a Canadian gets freedom and the true meaning of America. Much like Nathan Fillion. However, it's also ironic, that Canada is known for causing some of the greatest war crimes when it was in wars. Sadly, I afraid, that if we had heroes & aliens living among us today, that they would similar prosecuted like in this comic...
I think the reason why big smiles were so important in older times is currently we have flurode in our water and we suffer less malnutrition as they did in those times, just because you had the industrial revolution dont mean every one gets taken care of. Possibly in those times juat having decent teeth took a good amount of effort. People knew what it mean to value perfect teeth.
Call me corny, but if I was the president I'd introduce a second country flag: the House of El symbol. It'd be fitting to have a powerful and recognizable symbol be associated with the country directly, as the original American ideology is the whole reason it exists in the first place. Not to get overly political, but when I look at the US today I see nothing but a country that the majority of the world hates because of moronic decisions made my people in power. The truth is, we *have* lost sight of what this country was originally meant to be; I can't help but feel that decades of corruption and violence have stained us to an almost incorrigible degree.
I find that a lot of my opinions and values differ from yours, but we also have a lot in common. You seem to heavily value community and unity and collectivism (An optimistic, non-authoritarian collectivism), whereas I've settled into an individualist mindset (NOT Ayn Rand individualism). I don't know if it's Nature or Nurture, but I've always been a loner, I haven't always enjoyed it, but I'm fine with it. I often avoid things that are popular, because it disgusts me that people are so obsessed with being popular, even adults who should know better. Just an observation, I love hearing other perspectives and your videos have helped level me out a little.
The American story everyone should see!..As Supes says..Today..there's no Democrats or Republicans..which rolls with me...as I'm a indy..in most things..
Well, not one of us americans can answer that we are even subject to it. Im rather conservative and the child and grandchild of soldiers. Were actually a diffrent breed than most these people. Especially if you come from lifers, guys that did alot .ore than 4 years, all enlisted men. From the civil war (irish that were conscripted off the boat because they were poor because they were Irish, i know my family history also german englis and said to have native American, ive seen pictures of my Irish ancestory and they were pretty light men, im somewhat darker complexion but i know im still part irish. Most of us if we look back in our blood got whole mixes. So we like to consider ourselves tolerant..and on the other hand all the family was also clergy of some type, my greatgrand father Hileman who was the son of a german immigrant and a native american women. Was actually we well to do mixed man,he was inheriter of his uncles estate were tolking in modern days $ millions. His mother was supposedly a young girl who went on the "Trail of Tears" . Raceisim is a work of fiction belived and beloved by fools.
I understand that reducing John Wilson's storyline made sense if one is trying to tighten the script to focus on the core conflict with the centre, but I still feel that doing so lessens the message of internal corruption. The result is a story about just superhero persecution, which could have been stronger and more broad and socially conscious if there had been an actual, real, non-fiction marginalized group suffering from unchecked paranoia and systemic/institutionalized hatred
I think the problem came down to how animation is seen/budget?, specifically the belief an animated film can’t be longer than say 1 1/2 hours (or they only had the budget for that long) if they could have done say 2 or 2 1/2 hours film they could have added more of the subtlety and the story with John Henry/the losers and such
While I think we can all agree that judging someone by their skin color is stupid we also have to realize that doing it by their character is obligatory. As it goes nowadays the problem is very rarely discrimination because of race but people claiming that it is that when in reality there are many other reasons for it.
This is an unpopular opinion these days, but I’m a grim believer in the fact that America is more than a country, it’s an ideal. At least that’s the dream and I believe it’s still alive. 🇺🇸 🗽 🦅
i will always love when batman says stuff like "i intend to scare adults not children". i think a lot of people forget that a huge part of batman is taking care of kids so they dont suffer like he did. he has all these adopted kids and i mean do i even HAVE to mention ace? i just...love that.
You did not have to mention his dog,but ok.
I'm joking!I know the Ace you mean is a little girl
@@petrenicolae3282You had me for a sec there 😂
One of my favourite comic panels is the Justice League investigating a crime and Batman is the only one to stop and comfort a kid
we lost a true artist and genius when we lost Darwyn. No DC book can top New Frontier in my opinion, even down to the very structure of the staging of the panels on each page is pure brilliance. My only regret with the films is the story just felt rushed - but man, you put out another excellent video. This channel is the best.
The movie was definitely rushed; it was better suited as a mealtime video, if anything.
Back then when we had comics like Watchmen subverting the superhero comic book genre, in contrast Justice League The New Frontiers comic is a wonderful celebration of superheroes and nature heroism, and Darwyn Cooke's art is phenomenal. I love how it interconnects storylines surrounding Hal Jordan's Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Flash and the formation of the Justice League against the Center. This movie is a perfect introduction for people who want to get into The Justice League. Im a big fan of Martian Manhunter, a really underrated hero and complex, very philosophical and introspective character and a founding member of the Justice League who's honestly the heart and soul of the team. He's got a really tragic backstory, revolting around Mars and suffering under a race war that killed his family and wiped out his species, all except him, so he and Superman share similarities as immigrants from the stars
I mean to be even Moore had done Similae stories with reconstruction post watchmen like Tom strong.
New Frontier might be the best distillation and representation of DC's core characters as a whole.
“Look at how happy everyone is!”
Batman: 😑😑😑😑
That’s his Happy face.
I love hal Jordan in this. The ring proves that he isn’t a coward, he has the will to stand up for what’s right and not contribute to evil. Also everyone looking down on him gives him the opportunity to be a rebel, but unlike other interpretations he isn’t arguing against rational people or the other heroes that we’re supposed to look up to. Normally that makes him look like kind of an asshole because being strongheaded is a way to show his willpower. Here, it’s clearer that Hal Jordan has not just the heart of a lion but he equally has the heart of a hero. It’s clear in this story that he’s doing the right thing and his willpower is shown through him not bending or changing when he’s called a coward, because he is confident that he’s doing the right thing. His confidence isn’t unearned but some stories like make it feel that way.
The ending speech still gives me chills do this day
It’s a shame Bruce Timm isn’t happy with the movie adaptation. I really enjoyed it and Darwyn Cooke even ended up liking it more than he thought he would. He became more involved with the production once he saw what they were doing was good
It probably could have had a little more book scenes in it like Dick and Wally meeting and their race.
Neither am I, honestly.
I think the cutting of the John Henry scence is an extremely poor look. It’s a very small part of the story but its probably the most impactful scene
@@paulakroy2635 it is...especially since John Henry of Legend and his legacy character in the DCU now John Henry Irons Jr. is Steel's older cousin...and shows that a Superman was always around...John Henry Jr. like Irons III is a Man of Steel.
@@paulakroy2635 John Henry was my favorite subplot of the whole miniseries. It was crucial to Martian Manhunter's belief in humankind, to the point of choosing to go back to Mars after he realized Henry was murdered by a white little girl. This was one of the many reasons I didn't enjoy THE NEW FRONTIER movie at all.
I just read this a couple months ago and rewatched the movie. Darwyn Cooke is really a master of the medium, delivering one of the best written and best drawn comics I’ve ever read all in one. I don’t know anyone else who has done a better job as a writer/artist on a superhero comic than him. I was also taken by the way he manages to homage and respect the New Frontier era as he deconstructs it.
Wow, the story is timeless. Very relevant to what’s going on the world. I could see Gunn using this for the DCU
Rumor has it, New Frontier is going to be the story for his Justice League.
In DC: The New Frontier, Darwyn Cooke brilliantly deconstructs the superhero mythos by placing these iconic figures in the gritty, turbulent reality of the 1950s and 1960s. Unlike the usual depictions of flawless demigods, Cooke’s heroes are deeply flawed and relatable, grappling with personal insecurities, moral conflicts, and the harsh socio-political climate of the era. The story’s backdrop of the Cold War, McCarthyism, and the civil rights movement strips away the idealized veneer of heroism, forcing characters to confront the same prejudices and fears as ordinary people. Cooke’s approach is refreshingly humanizing, showcasing that true heroism isn’t about superpowers but about making tough, ethical choices in the face of adversity.
You look at something as pure and hopeful as New Frontier, the view of America. Then you look at what that country is today and it only makes you sad. That spirit reaching for the newest frontiers is dead.
F'n love this channel. For the love of god please keep uploading!
I know. It’s amazing! These videos are exactly the type of “dinner entertainment conversations” I would LOVE to have in real life…. Or in general. Love these guys!
New Frontier is not only one my top 5 favorite comic books of all time but is the story that embodies the best aspect that define the DC Universe as whole. Some people say that DC heroes aren't relatable like the Marvel heroes, that they are basically "modern gods" and "too perfect". New Frontier is the counter-argument to this idea, with the story spending most of it's time not on the heroes just fighting and doing big stuff, but on their personal lifes, who they truly are and their struggle to live in a time period that seems to reject their heroism. It's how they handle those dramas, from Flash overcoming his insecurity to J'onn and Farady bonding, that humanizes these characters and make them so appealing. In the end, the DC heroes aren't these "modern gods who live among humans", they are just selfless people who try to good in the world and inspire the best in others, not by demanding or forcing but by being an good exemple.
I really hope that James Gunn and Peter Safran's DCU will be building up to a modern day adaptation of The New Frontier. I've only seen the film, but it's a genuinely good watch (regardless of how rushed some parts are) and it could be a good timeless message for the new DCU to follow and be adapted in a new modern way that doesn't remove the impact of the original comic.
@@SecretMagician I hope the same, specially when comes to him adapt Hal Jordan. I would love to see him having a similar character arc, being established as soldier who disobey authority and everybody thinks is coward but in reality he's brave man loyal to his good values.
This could even be explore when the DCU introduces Sinestro, with him acting as contrast to Hal, being the soldier everybody expects Hal to be, but end up corrupt for embracing all these toxic masculinity aspects (ex: Agressive, overuse of fear and intimidation).
@@SecretMagician Plus, the Center is a villain who Gunn could build up through the movies, with some characters in each project being under his influence or aware of his coming and trying to prepare Earth for his invasion.
@@alexandrefrauches132 I'm pretty sure the "mystery" Hal Jordan and John Stewart are investigating will be about the Center, considering Gunn said it'll be tied into the DCU.
@alexandrefrauches132 agreed, Hal's arc is something I could see starting in the Lanterns series and being further developed in future seasons/movies.
Edit: I also think that the mystery Hal and John are investigating in the Lanterns show could be the Center, considering that James Gunn said that the mystery encompasses the entire DCU.
Hitting the mic when you said “f#ck you if you disagree with me” was the realest shit ever.
The through-line arcing from this through Superman and The Authority is an American arc that could only be seen from Brittania
One of my favorite films because of how they treat the golden age superheroes.
Genuinely i seem to find more and more reasons to love dc even more than i already do. Im a true beliver in america , even if were not perfect . Everything america represents is on display in this for better and worse. But its never perfect , like we our , howevr we can always strive to do and be better.
Its perfect cause i love all the charcters but double on the representation of what america truly means, just forms a perfect drink.
13:32 I feel like…he doesn’t realize this includes Canada lol
I just wanna say as an American today I find your take on this comic/movie really resonates with me now. I honestly teared up a little at the end there, and it makes me want to be hopeful for the future.
one of your better videos yet, and no surprise its on this comic/film. truly a piece of art, one of my all-time favorites.
Excellent analysis, as always, Leo. Thanks for sharing! The only thing I would nitpick is that white New Frontier indeed *appears* simple at first glance, it's one of the most intricately constructed stories to come out of the big two publishers this side of Perez's work on Crisis on Infinite Earths, and it's a miracle how Cooke was able to weave all of these rich threads together so seamlessly and make it look simple.
I think that was the only animated DC movie I've watched more than once and moved to tears.
I would posit that we in the US _have_ been asking ourselves, "Who have we become, and are we okay with that?" for a very long time, it's just that the halls of power (Washington, mainly, but also New York and Silicon Valley) have been resisting this question for at least as long. Sure, abandoning thousands of families during a massive hurricane was a much greater scandal than the CIA torturing prisoners, but both of those are the result of a system that values stock prices much more highly than human lives. I'm sure those in power understand that the world could be a better, kinder, fairer place, they just don't care, or worse, they _benefit_ from a cold, abusive, and evil world.
As horrible this country has been, there has been progress since 1969, slow transitions towards more diversity, more fairness, more justice; it just doesn't seem that way to many of us who don't have time to compare and contrast, who are struggling to make ends meet. I'm sure that Mr. Cooke might be shocked that there was legislation that tried to make what the Bush administration did not-so-brazenly-illegal, but go back 100 years and we would probably do the exact same thing without media coverage or any kind of oversight or appeal. The fact that we even _know_ about Abu Ghraib, that someone risked their career to stand up and say "this is wrong" without being silenced, is progress (low bar, I know). Nixon would have tried to silence the whistleblower (and he likely would have succeeded), and the right-wing media and "intellectual" ecosystem is the result of many powerful people thinking he was always right. But Nixon and his friend Kissinger have a _lot_ of blood on their hands.
If this country is to become a better place than yesterday, every citizen has to ask themselves, "Who have we become, and are we okay with that?" every election. And we all have to remember that lasting change for the better is never easy, nor does it happen in a year or even 4 years.
The problem is people have subverted the very ideal of justice and made it into revenge that all it is now. There's no diversity as in "do people whom worked hard and have interest in this have a space to grow here" It's more like "let me pool people who think like I do here so I cannot be questioned for my irony" They maybe visually diverse yet in thought and pratices they're far from it. People want to do good and have space to grow yet such things scare people who think they have power they fear being replaced they're like the rulers of old "They want to live forever" they don't care if they must destroy the world to get their goal. Overall the people that grew up reading those old comics became the very evil villains they once hated.
This is still probably my favorite of the DC one off movies. It's beautiful.
I don't totally agree that the film version is made better by having Batman present at the final battle. One thing I really liked in the comic was how in the end Superman and Wonder Woman are largely sidelined and Batman isn't there. And its down to the Silver Agers to take down the threat (and yeah, I realize Green Arrow is technically is a Golden Age character). By having Batman and Wonder Woman more active in the air and ground battle, it feels like a bit of the message of 'this new generation can do this' gets a little muddled.
Wonder Woman being there is necessary for early league comics.
Maybe they should have pulled a "Hippolyta to Diana" transition like mainstream was at the time before Infinite Crisis changed it to Diana going the route of the Hawks.
Totally understandable but regardless I like how both versions are larger not big 3 stories and instead largely focused on the other justice league members (manhunter, flash and green lantern) normally for JL they are more side characters with the big three being the main ones so them being the main characters is something I really respect. And regardless of him providing the atom he still does play a secondary role so it atleast held back on making him a big part of things
I saw your profile with the fist punching the face and a DC lineup and not even the flash could have clicked on this video faster than me😅
Glorified "first" comment?
Excellent job on this video. Thank you for your hard work and for sharing this.
ok i absolutely love all of your videos, love the character essays and how deeply you go into the history and psyche but the fact that you just mentioned Mass Effect, PLEASE give us character essays for Mass Effect characters, im begging you. Would be amazing to hear your view on characters like Miranda, Jacob, Javik and Ashley and really any one in those games.
been waiting on this one man! love your stuff, in fact, i'm an english lit & lang student at a level and i read my essays in your voice to make them sound smarter, keep it up!
Its funny. For a period piece,The New Frontier is relevant now more than ever
This is such a good dive into New Frontier
7:32 wait hold up is that…. God damn it all.
"DC The New Frontier" is my favourite DC book. "The Other History of the DC Universe" is similar in a sense so I like that too. It fills the role of what I expect from a "DC Next Frontier" sequel which could show the transition from the Silver Age to the Bronze Age. Although "The Other History of the DC Universe" goes up to the Modern Age too.
This was a fantastic analysis of the story, I’m doing a comparison between the comic and movie soon!
Please keep up with the comics video essays! It's the best thing, and youtube doesnt have enough videos about comics, by competent channels
one of my favorite animated dc movies
Ok, now you're just reading my mind.... I was thinking about this movie and how much I loved it as a kid
Damn this video essay is brilliant
I still remember when the movie came out and how cool I thought it and Martian Manhunter were, but given how long ago that was and the age I was I don't think I really grasped exactly what was going on as far as the non-alien invasion stuff was concerned, but then again this was almost 20 years ago so my memory of what I thought and felt back then isn't very extant and clear anymore.
Robert downey jr as batman was such an interesting casting choice in this film! I was amazed by the nuance of the xbox acquisition of Blizzard, always imaginied it just like that in the comic!
Ive always been in love with what America stood for, and especially growing into my 20s its easy to be jaded with its flaws. But projects like the new frontier and superman vs the elite really make me emotional because it brings back a sense of America that feels forgetten in the modern age. Its proof that theres still heart here. That even though the way the values are represented harken back 100 years ago, the values themselves are just as valuable today. and it really gives me hope for the future.
Perfect and beautiful
I love the new frontier, it was the first graphic novel, I ever read.
I've been hoping for you to make a video on this for quite some time. I have my tattoo scheduled for July 8th to get Cooke's Superman on me forever.
They looked so cool
Great video. I hope the story of peace, understanding, and exploration is embraced by the world.
And it's great, that a Canadian gets freedom and the true meaning of America. Much like Nathan Fillion.
However, it's also ironic, that Canada is known for causing some of the greatest war crimes when it was in wars.
Sadly, I afraid, that if we had heroes & aliens living among us today, that they would similar prosecuted like in this comic...
I think the reason why big smiles were so important in older times is currently we have flurode in our water and we suffer less malnutrition as they did in those times, just because you had the industrial revolution dont mean every one gets taken care of. Possibly in those times juat having decent teeth took a good amount of effort. People knew what it mean to value perfect teeth.
Dark Knight 1 kind of does end up like "we fooled y'all" and working on the ins and outs of the govt... then the sequels...happenned
I wish we got move stories. It was such a great one. Incorporating real life events really helps tell the story.
Read the new frontier earlier this year and it was really fun and awesome! I love hal Jordan and John jones portrayal.
God I love New Frontier so much
Darwyn Cooke is the greatest cartoonist of all time.
Haven't watched this one yet, going to now!
Low feel James Gunn’s DCU could learn from this adaption and the DCAU
Pretentious, what are your thoughts on X-men 97 because I think it's the best X-men cartoon in a long time.
I swear British boys are always so kind, chill, interesting and adorable
Call me corny, but if I was the president I'd introduce a second country flag: the House of El symbol.
It'd be fitting to have a powerful and recognizable symbol be associated with the country directly, as the original American ideology is the whole reason it exists in the first place.
Not to get overly political, but when I look at the US today I see nothing but a country that the majority of the world hates because of moronic decisions made my people in power. The truth is, we *have* lost sight of what this country was originally meant to be; I can't help but feel that decades of corruption and violence have stained us to an almost incorrigible degree.
Ditching John Henry's storyline always proved to me that the animation department lost the plot when we lost Dwayne McDuffie.
Lore of New Frontier: hard times for good people momentum 100
This might your best one yet
Friends not food
I feel like if they just adapted this into a JL live action film I’d be happy
Ah yes, the movie that traumatized me as a kid.
Recommended you read JLA:year one aswell if you haven't already.
What happened to Steel in this comic makes me sick.
Normally I'm opposed to hurting children...
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Childhood indoctrination to racism. It's truly a shame.
I fucking hate this movie because it ignored Diana's relationship with Clark and inserted Lois for literally no reason.
Banger video
Good movie, i like it a lot
Live and let live
i love new frontier
I find that a lot of my opinions and values differ from yours, but we also have a lot in common. You seem to heavily value community and unity and collectivism (An optimistic, non-authoritarian collectivism), whereas I've settled into an individualist mindset (NOT Ayn Rand individualism). I don't know if it's Nature or Nurture, but I've always been a loner, I haven't always enjoyed it, but I'm fine with it. I often avoid things that are popular, because it disgusts me that people are so obsessed with being popular, even adults who should know better. Just an observation, I love hearing other perspectives and your videos have helped level me out a little.
Really great video.
It does watchmen but better.
I read this as new Fortnite :(
yummy video
Love your country, not your government.
Good video
The American story everyone should see!..As Supes says..Today..there's no Democrats or Republicans..which rolls with me...as I'm a indy..in most things..
Wasn’t it Korea, not Vietnam? Wouldn’t let her talk about what she saw in Korea?
It was Viet Nam. The Hal Jordan scene was in Korea.
Bro can i get your playlist
Love film
You should make a video about kid cosmic season 1
Well, not one of us americans can answer that we are even subject to it. Im rather conservative and the child and grandchild of soldiers. Were actually a diffrent breed than most these people. Especially if you come from lifers, guys that did alot .ore than 4 years, all enlisted men. From the civil war (irish that were conscripted off the boat because they were poor because they were Irish, i know my family history also german englis and said to have native American, ive seen pictures of my Irish ancestory and they were pretty light men, im somewhat darker complexion but i know im still part irish. Most of us if we look back in our blood got whole mixes. So we like to consider ourselves tolerant..and on the other hand all the family was also clergy of some type, my greatgrand father Hileman who was the son of a german immigrant and a native american women. Was actually we well to do mixed man,he was inheriter of his uncles estate were tolking in modern days $ millions. His mother was supposedly a young girl who went on the "Trail of Tears" . Raceisim is a work of fiction belived and beloved by fools.
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Not as good as the miniseries, despite Darwyn Cooke being involved in this film.
Notti gang no osama
I mean John Henry is just as black as John Jones
Henry is supposed to be a robot just like John is an alien
12:19 “All lives matter.”
I understand that reducing John Wilson's storyline made sense if one is trying to tighten the script to focus on the core conflict with the centre, but I still feel that doing so lessens the message of internal corruption.
The result is a story about just superhero persecution, which could have been stronger and more broad and socially conscious if there had been an actual, real, non-fiction marginalized group suffering from unchecked paranoia and systemic/institutionalized hatred
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I guess my original comment was a little too real for this channel…
I loved the original series. The movie dispensed with subtlety, nuance, mystery, and boiled the whole story down to a big, dumb fight.
I think the problem came down to how animation is seen/budget?, specifically the belief an animated film can’t be longer than say 1 1/2 hours (or they only had the budget for that long) if they could have done say 2 or 2 1/2 hours film they could have added more of the subtlety and the story with John Henry/the losers and such
It really should have been a miniseries.
That last quote is funny considering the horrendous actions Canada performed against the native tribes of the region and still do to this day.
JFK must be rolling in his grave because of the title
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While I think we can all agree that judging someone by their skin color is stupid we also have to realize that doing it by their character is obligatory.
As it goes nowadays the problem is very rarely discrimination because of race but people claiming that it is that when in reality there are many other reasons for it.
This is an unpopular opinion these days, but I’m a grim believer in the fact that America is more than a country, it’s an ideal. At least that’s the dream and I believe it’s still alive. 🇺🇸 🗽 🦅