The Best Rate Tune for DJI FPV Drone - Fixing DJI's Rates
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- I wanted to leave a quick note here letting you know these rate settings currently only impact Manual mode. At this time there is no way to adjust rates for Normal and Sports mode.
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I wanted to leave a quick note here letting you know these rate settings currently only impact Manual mode. At this time there is no way to adjust rates for Normal and Sports mode.
Ya I really like sport mode an would love the ability to do roles in sport mode. I think DJI just doesn’t care an id be extremely surprised if they released anything. I think they just push out a new drone, bank some money an move on to the next.
Good to know
Loved your rates ! Yes. It took me one year to go back to the FPV drone , after getting confidence in flying the Avata in manual mode , apply your rates and finally testing it on the FPV drone ! So smooth on the flips and rolls ! Thanks !
Just tried flying on your settings, Best experience I've had with DJI FPV drone! Thank you very much!
So good to hear!
Very helpful thanks
I’m going to try this weekend
My memory is horrible. I sat here and watched your entire video and it wasn't until the very end that I put two and two together...I MET YOU AT THE DC RALLY! Great video, my friend. I adjusted my settings to align with what you have set in yours and I'm going out later today to give it a test flight. Thanks again!
You bet man! I still have your t-shirt man!
I have heard almost unanimous talk of it feeling like a stock betalflight tune out of the box, so nice job jumping on the tunes already!!!
I would say it is worse than that! It's really bad, especially the rates!
Thanks for this tutorial, I never got to fly the DJI FPV like this, it was way to sensitive and snappy on the throttle, but now its great and stable. Thanks this brings new life to this drone.
This has been the most helpful video ever! Nice job!. I made CS DR & EXPO setting in the direction you mentioned and HUGE difference... and this is coming from a RC collective pitch heli pilot. thanks
I tuned to these settings after my third original flight which was making be a bit dissy. MUCH better flying!!
So glad it helped!
Thanks man just what I was looking for!
Finally got around to trying these and they worked perfectly. Thanks for the tip.
You bet! Glad they helped you out!
Dude, thank you! I've only done manual mode in the sim with default settings so far and it was HARD - tried these rates out and it was much more manageable!
Happy to help!
Hey Curt. Can you elaborate on your issues. I AM NOT having fun w the sim because as soon as it starts the drone automatically throttles up to max altitude wo me touching the throttle 🤬 and then the roll and pitch are another nightmare.
@@DonRecapo Hey Reynaldo - I didn't have the issue with the throttle you're describing. The rates outlined in the video make the controller sticks less sensitive so it's a bit easier to control. They were way too sensitive for me with the values that came from the factory. Have you tried changing those settings to see if they make a difference?
edit: also - have you loosened the screw for your throttle so it doesn't spring back to center?
@@DonRecapo do you have the throttle all the way to the bottom when you takeoff?
@@curthostetter2373 I tried but I set them back to where they recenter and in the sim they sim way too sensitive. When in manual should it hover or make constant adjustments. I guess I'm in full control.
So center sensitivity on like 50 would be less reaction (cinematic) and increasing it to like 200 would be more reaction? (Acro)
Yes, that is how it seems to work. DJI has little documentation on it so it’s mostly by feel.
@@illuminatedrones yeah I was pretty pissed about that they kind of skipped over that in the manual what I feel like is the most important thing about fpv. Thanks!
Thank you so much for the info! The drone is flying some much nicer now! 😁✌️
Awesome! That’s great to hear!
Great video. Thank you!
Thanks man. Helpful
Thanks !!!!!! I was searching for thease
What a great video! Yes the content was good but what I am more impressed with is the location! Rock Canyon Park. Where I grew up! So I am a expat living in Beijing China on a international assignment for NBC Universal. I came across your video since I just purchased a DJI FPV here in Beijing and as normal I am taking every bit of information in a can. My parents actually still live just a few 100ft from the park. Although I have not lived in Utah for 30 years, I visit several times a year as time permits. It was certainly fun being half a world away watching a video about a hobby I am passionate about and all of a sudden realize you are filming from my old neighborhood! Fun to see!
That’s so awesome J C! I love flying at that park! Glad it brought back some great memories and you enjoyed it. If you ever visit again let me know and we can go flying together in Utah! We are actually going to be adding a bunch more videos about this drone to our online FPV course that I think you would really find useful. You can see more info about it here: www.fpvunlocked.com/
Changes rotation rates to fix throttle lag, genius channel.
DJI rates are different then others. I also made other changes.
@@illuminatedrones what changes affect throttle response?
Wow thanks for this. It really makes a difference .
Happy to help!
@@illuminatedrones I subscribed. Good stuff mate. Keep up the good work and have a great day thanks again. Your numbers really made a difference.
First thing I did was pop in my ACTUAL RATES from my 3" freestyle quad. WOOOO HOOOO!!! 900 degrees per second flips and rolls! I've since dialed back to something more cinematic. Actual Rates for the win people.
Sounds fun! May not be the best for beginners though, haha.
i just tuned to these settings now caint wait to try them out.
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
@@illuminatedrones Sure will i love this drone i want to do more flips and rolls.
@@Jaytouch123 do 180 800 55
thanks a lot, very good tutorial
You bet! Glad it helped you out!
Thanks for sharing I was looking hard for a video that explain all this I’m trying to be a drift car chaser and I start doing it on sports mode but definitely I want to try out in manual mode thanks so much ✌️✌️✌️new sub here
Interesting point; I tried these too and it is smoother, but equally importantly (for me), I am now getting longer flight times. I managed a 12 minute flight in manual. I guess that makes sense, lower rates means less work for the motors
Glad they helped you out Roger!
Ofc I want to Learn. Great vid bud
Glad you liked it!
thanks for the tips!
Wow. Much better thank you
Great video thanks for chare
thanks for sharing! i just removed my question as i just saw your pinned message answered my question :)
Thanks for the info
Thanks buddy!
Great inspiration! I went a bit further to realize "fixed wing style" aerobatics. My rates: Sens: 20, Yaw,Pitch,Roll: 275, Expo: 0.75 - super smooth and still responsive enough for me :-)
You may have just posted the answer I’ve been looking for lol. It’s extremely frustrating because it’s been out so long an dji hasn’t done anything to address any of the issues. I really want inverted control
So much better and smoother than the factory settings, thanks a lot!
You bet!
thanks for the great video!! excuse my ignorance, but how does changing the pitch, roll and yaw settings affect the throttle control? i'm confused, i thought there would have been an expo for throttle too?
Notice how there's still no response to this excellent and must important question after 7 months, yet lovie dovies (hearts) on every other comment!
First off, I don’t get notifications for all comments as we get many on this channel so I don’t see them all.
Secondly, I’ve answered this question in the comments for this video already so no point in reposting the same thing.
Thanks!
hello amazing video thanks a lot .....i have made many flying sim hours on lift off but i notice ...reality its way different . The last controller setting its the best for a beginner or there is something more I can do to make the drone a little bit less " nervous " . First time i flew with the manufacturer default values and i was quite to die since the drone was a crazy horse
Thank You.
Thanks for a good knowledge
You are welcome!
Thanks so much, btw do these rates affect normal and sports mode too?
Happy to help! Unfortunately, they do not.
@@illuminatedrones oh I see, yeah cos I do find even the normal/sports mode is extremely twitchy too
Interesting video…subbed
Dude.
Your settings gave me the confidence I needed to fly in manual mode.
I just tweek a little more, now is perfect.
I've set all CS to 80, and all MR to 300 and it is great for newbies like me.
Thank you, keep the good stuff coming.
Expo?
New sub From philly. Thx for the help bud...🤙🤙🤙
Mikey
Hi!
When flying in manual mode, do you know if the drone goes back to normal mode if it looses signal, to avoid crashing? Thanks!
You can choose what it does, but yes, it switches back to normal mode automatically.
thx mate! will try these rates today!
Sweet! Let me know how it goes!
@@illuminatedrones love it! I’m noob on Fpv, but have some experience on gps drones (consumer). Yesterday make my first back flip and some other entry tricks. So thx for rates!
@@Geck0n Awesome!
@@illuminatedrones thx! I’m so noob in this “hobby”
Thanks this helped!
Glad it helped!
Much better thanks
You bet!
Hi, great vid i fly a Mavic Air 2 but will be getting this fpv in a few weeks are these rates best for a begginer looking to capture 'cinematic' footage rather than hoon it around like a mad man, thanks.
Yeah, these rates will definitely help with that! This isn’t the best drone for FPV cinematic footage. I highly recommend watching my review on this drone. Link is in the description!
@@illuminatedrones thank you, yeah i watched it earlier and you make valid point's and i have my MA2 for cinematic shots but i could get different types of shots with this drone, i haven't the time or frankly the want to learn everything that goes alongside traditional fpv, i know there's far more capable self and prebuilt fpv quads than the dji one but it's plenty for my needs as a hobbyist and who knows maybe it'll start me down the rabbit hole and hook me into wanting to learn everything fpv but for now I'm going with this, thanks for the advice you have a new sub and I look forward to future videos 😊
I definitely get the time part of learning FPV. If you check the description I have a link to some free training we offer that will also help with you flying this FPV drone.
Finally! Found a settings that suit me the best! Thanks 🙏🏽 !
You bet! Glad to hear it helped!
Would using these rates be better after trying stock rates first (I’m a manual newbie just learning now using the sim) so one could see the difference, or just go straight to using these rates ?
For beginners I’d go straight to using these rates.
@@illuminatedrones thanks.
I assume that these rate changes also get reflected in the simulators as well right?
That I’m not sure on. It should but not sure.
Where are you flying? Reminds me of Boulder, Colorado. Was there once :) jealous that you have mountains to fly around. I live in Stockholm. Very flat ;(
Thanks for the video! Will try these rates today.
We are flying in Provo, Utah, so similar landscapes as Boulder. I flew with some helicopters in Boulder a few years back and it was awesome.
dzięki dron lata teraz znacznie łagodniej. jest mnie agresywny i faktycznie można teraz dużo przyjemniej latać.
Hey guys thank you for making this video! I have a question regarding expo on this drone: Is the expo really opposite to for example beta flight? I see a lot of FPV pilots increasing expo to increase smoothness. How do you know that expo on this drone is the same as for example on an Mavic?
yes i was wondering the same
@@flugfuchs I have the answer to my own question. It is the same as for any other FPV quad. The updated DJI simulator let’s you change expo & gain now. There you can see that increasing the expo makes it less sensitive. The way it’s supposed to be. So increasing the expo makes it smoother not lowering it it.
@@DanijelDanijel1985 thanks for clarifying this, makes totally sense, as the weather here in Germany is totally crap right now I had not the opportunity to test it out for myself since now.
@@flugfuchs You are welcome! The weather here is not that great either. Typical Dutch weather.
@Daniel Todic @flaboratorium org Now that they show it on the app, yes, it is similar to betaflight rate tuning, however, one or the other doesn't necessarily make it smoother. Lowering it makes it more linear, which, is technically smoother because it doesn't have any jump in input, that's what I was showing in the video. Guess it depends on the pilot.
Nice video. It was clear, concise, and well thought out. I also want to commend you for only using the word "cinematic" four times. That is about once every three minutes. Too many drone content creators way overuse the word. Every 45 to 60 seconds is way too much. Cinematic is the same as film, video, or movie. They could use those words every so often so they sound less pretentious.
how close are the stock values to the simulator on steam, liftoff? thats what im used to so ideally i would want them to be the same seeing i am comfortable with a 30 degree camera angle...
Thanks for this! Can’t wait to try it out. How do you keep the props from being in the frame?
Has to be fixed in editing unfortunately.
@@illuminatedrones actually enabling lens distortion correction will remove the props by effectively cropping them out in camera by correcting the fisheye effect to linear, I have mine set to correct the final video, but to leave it uncorrected in the goggles
Unfortunately it is not a 100% fix, as they can still show.
@@illuminatedrones perhaps not, but I have never actually seen them in the frame, although my flying is quite simplistic truth be told- i've seen props in the shot on my air2s and my mini 2, but never on the fpv
Is it possible to change throttle rates in FPV? It’s lagging too much. I push the throttle but I need it to respond quicker
My first manual mode flight today was so spastic and jerky. Going to try these settings tomorrow and hopefully avoid the puke fest.
It should help! I also recommend getting sea bands for nausea!
We spoke a little in one of the troll groups but wanted to thank you again for this...
You bet! Glad it helped!
Hey I know you! Have you flown it yet? I haven't been in the air since Tues.
@@JSKCKNIT Just flew it yesterday but just one battery. Been pretty busy 👍🏻
I will try them I'm new to the fpv but inching to try manual mode
Thanks
Is there an app or something to change the rates? Where do I change the rates at? Do I have to plug it into something?
thank.s bro
how do i copy my drl simulator drone values to the fpv drone? So that i will be more comfortable with my dji fpv as i flown with simulator drone.
A tuning question for you mate, can you invert the left stick so that you actually fly just like a real plane, so that pull down is to climb and push up is to loose altitude?
Technically yes and no as you will never be able to fly a drone like a plane as they interact with aerodynamics differently. You can switch remote controller modes to try different configurations but you will need to adjust for it once you actually fly or. Not recommended for beginner pilots!
I want the best rates for cinematic shooting. What do you recommend?
I have further recommendations in our course for this, which you can see at www.fpvunlocked.com/dfd
I put your rates in and flew in M mode yesterday for the first time. I loved it...I'm leaving it like this....I think It flies better than in S mode.
Awesome!
What rates would closest reflect the settings in Sport mode?
anyone know what are the rates for the Normal/Sport mode? (for comparison purposes with M Mode)
Thanks for this, about to get involved with FPV.
Awesome! Have you checked out our free training at www.fpvunlocked.com/topfive1
Little late to this show but I take it down on the bottom where it says reset, if you hit that it will change them back to factory settings. I'm going to give your settings a try but just in case I want to be able to get them back to factory as soon as possible without going through all the settings manually again. Thanks
Yup, it will reset it to factory!
do you have any rates for the dji avata?
how fast can the rates be adjusted to? is it possible to go over 1000 degrees/s?
I went up to about 930 before I stopped.
good♪
Didn’t realize how much better your rates are until I tried going back to stock after using your rates. I thought that I had just improved, but now I realize that your settings were the reason. I cannot believe that DJI didn’t set it up with something along the lines of your tune. They should hire someone like you
Thank you, so glad they helped! Haha, believe me, the FPV community has been been begging DJI to hire some FPV professionals for awhile!
Do you know if the changed settings will work with the DJI simulator aswell?
I do not think they would because they should be connected directly to the drone.
@@illuminatedrones Thanks :)
Question do u think DJI wud release PIT TUNING for this drone , keep hearin ppl say bout It
We actually just released a video on the PID tune of this drone. I don’t currently see any plans for them doing that but they might!
Rates are only working in M-Mode or also in N and S ?
Just M mode.
Simulator never worked for me, I never was able to get a feel for those controls. Just started in N mode, after a couple days switched to S mode, First with coordination then without it(throttle stick not centering, of course).After 2 weeks in S mode I finally switched to full M mode using FPV Unlocked rates....It flew smooth like butter. Not doing any aerobatics yet until I get enough stick time and confidence.
Awesome man! So glad it worked out!
You talk about the throttle. But I didn't see a setting for it, gain/expo.
Should u try it first with the manual altitude on
That wouldn’t really change anything.
Can you do the same thing for Sport mode?
No
Can you do it for N mode or is it only for M mode?
Only for manual.
great info. just picked up this drone and been flying in manual. When in manual mode its not allowing me to flip either down or up not sure why. Also getting an error saying "remote controller stick error"
Would that be because maybe i tightened it up to much on the back ( f1 & f2 ) for the throttle?
Going to try tuning it to these settings!
Usually a remote controller calibration will get rid of that. I have a video on unlocking acro mode that will take care of the first issue you are having.
did you change the custom bottom to manual. is the only way to unlock. If not you still flyin in sports mode.
Hay bro🙏🙏 can u
Please help me?share sett MANUAL Gain & Expo for beginner 🙏
Iwant myDrone stable but Drone get the ability flip &Roll.. yaw stable (gyro correction)
Yes, this video goes over that.
Which rates are used in N and S: What is displayed ?
It is not shown what those rates are.
Has anyone tried adjusting the f1 and f2 screws. I'm a noob so not exactly sure how this affects flight. I tried to return them to what felt normal but I don't know anymore.
We have another video on our channel about this!
does this effect on normal/sports mode?
From what I can tell it effects all modes.
Wanted to update you that it only effects Manual mode. There is currently no way to adjust rates on the other modes.
Yo if you connect your phone a record screen on the app could be easy to record setting staff. Best and thks for this content
The phone view does not show you changing settings unfortunately.
@@illuminatedrones daaamn. Anyway. Thanks for sharing this!
Does this setting works also with the motion controller
That is a great question, I will have to follow up with you on that!
If this only works in manuel mode, then no. As the motion controlled is only in Normal and sport, I believe.
@@dyslexicfrog7426 that is true!
Does anyone know if these rate settings also affect how manual mode behaves in the DJI Virtual Flight App? Or does it only affect the drone itself?
Only the drone.
@@illuminatedrones Thank you!
Boss, where is this video location?
This is in Provo, Utah.
Can u adj rates in sports mode
No, you cannot.
Was the EIS on ?
Not on any of the footage I showed in the video.
@@illuminatedrones that explains ! Thanks !
You should have cut your intro at the field since you did an intro at the start of the video, so you kinda did 2 intros instead of one, cutting to shot inside cam would have been cleaner! Thanks for the rate advice!
Thanks for the advice. I did it that way since the beginning part was edited in afterward. It was kind of like two videos together.
Can anybody help me I bought a dji fpv combo and my left stick does not have spring on up and down and has spring left to right spring and showing left stick error anybody can help me in what to do
The screw was probably tightened. You don't want it to spring on the left stick though. Do a remote controller calibration and you should be good.
Just tried these settings. They definitely make it better for cinematic flying but it removes the fast responsiveness for manual mode a little too much. Going to try increasing the sensitivity up again and see how that goes. The original settings are ok but they are definitely twitchy.
Glad it helped! Yeah, definitely a good idea to do some customization on your own as well!
is this just for manual mode ?
This should effect all modes. but I'm sure each mode has another layer of standards that these rates will stay within.
@@illuminatedrones and in what mode did you tuned it ? manual right ?
@@BikesnB yes, I did it all in full manual or acro mode.
@@illuminatedrones thank you 😄
Wanted to follow up with you and let you know this only affects Manual mode. There is no way to change the rates on the other modes at this time.
Hello I appreciate the video! My only gripe is the title I feel is misleading a bit. Several times in the video you mention that you think this is the best tune right now for beginners but how about the folks that are used to flying 4s or 6s fpv quads? I love how quick my 6s Nazgul5 reacts so I'm afraid that these will feel too slow and sluggish for me. The throttle I'm interested to try out because it's absolutely terrible stock on this drone and feels so unpowered and floaty.
Overall good video but I think that you should include in the title "best tune for beginners". Thanks!
I think even for those who have experience flying FPV should start with these rates. Honestly, the stock flying on this drone is absolutely terrible. It's always good to have a starting point and then move from there. Thank you for your feedback though!
So higher number is faster? Lower number is slower?
Not always. What one are you referring too?
@@illuminatedrones the rates, the lower the number means the control stick is less responsive? I'm New to manual mode and I don't want a sensitive control so i don't accidentally flip with a little nudge on manual. I have not flown ur setup yet, because here is night time. I will in the a few days.
The rates I give on here will give you good, slower but still responsive rates.
@@illuminatedrones thanks a bunch
190, 500 and 0.44 are my favourite.
Nice, might have to try those out!
How I set mine is 160-800-.55 🥴 anything is better than stock
Nice, that’s a pretty peppy tune right there! Going to have sensitive moment and quick maneuvers with that.